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Speaker 1: Welcome into lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink here

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Speaker 1: with Garrett Downing and happy Saint Patrick's day. Yes, all

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Speaker 1: those who observe out there. Garrett, I'll just give.

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Speaker 1: of it good. Uh So, yes, enjoy everybody, enjoy a

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Speaker 1: Guinness today. And uh so, we are going to talk

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Speaker 1: about the Ravens' second stage of free agency as the

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Speaker 1: first wave has coming gone, and what we could see

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Speaker 1: Baltimore doing from this point forward, as well as whether

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Speaker 1: they could make a big move at this point and

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Speaker 1: which Diriction right now we could see him going with

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Speaker 1: their first round pick, which they have back now the

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Speaker 1: fourteenth overall pick.

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Speaker 3: So, Garrett, the.

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Speaker 1: Ravens start to free agency. The past week was a

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Speaker 1: wild one, certainly a number of losses believe was seven

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Speaker 1: on day one of free agency. Of course, the Max

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Speaker 1: addition there as well as other additions newcomers. Just to

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Speaker 3: So those are new additions.

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Speaker 1: The Ravens also re signed Tyler Huntley and cornerback Cheetabayza.

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Speaker 1: And then today, according to reports from ESPN's Jeremy Fowler,

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Speaker 1: that could certainly help offset the loss or at least

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Speaker 2: Right, and obviously Trey Hendrickson. There is the headliner. Give it,

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Speaker 2: getting the biggest free agent contract the Ravens have ever

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Speaker 2: of support. And so I'm excited about it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it was at a high level, I think, kind of

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Speaker 2: the craziest first week of free agency that I can

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Speaker 2: the emotional swings to the roller coaster, some players that

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Speaker 2: you really like leaving Tyler Linderbaum, Isaiah likely on down

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Speaker 2: Plus over on top of all of that, there's the

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Speaker 2: big trade for Max Crosby that initially gets reported that

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Speaker 2: of The first week was chaotic. It always is to

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Speaker 2: an even greater level. And so now it's like you exhale.

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Speaker 2: Eric Tocosta he gave us that he gave us the warning,

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Speaker 2: not the warning us that the heads up going into

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Speaker 2: I was like, is he be a serious or not?

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Speaker 2: Does that mean that it's going to be actually a

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Speaker 2: quiet weekend? And he was telling the truth. There was

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Speaker 2: it was a quiet weekend that the Ravens had. And

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Speaker 2: now you kind of exhale, and you survey the rest

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Speaker 1: And I do you think the Ravens have done a

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Speaker 3: But there's still a lot of work to be done.

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Speaker 1: And Eric de Costa mentioned that at the Trey Hendrickson

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Speaker 3: A lot more to do.

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Speaker 1: I do think that a fair amount of their focus

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Speaker 1: has shifted to the draft. They have eleven picks this team.

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Speaker 1: Despite the out of character kind of move of giving

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Speaker 1: future later. The Ravens are still highly prioritize their draft

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think that's changed, Like, I don't think

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Speaker 2: I think at its core, the Ravens absolutely are still

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Speaker 2: and they've got a long track record of having success.

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Speaker 2: Just look at all the interest in the Ravens twenty

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Speaker 2: develop them, but then other you can't keep all of them.

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Speaker 2: And that's the reality of the world that the Ravens

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Speaker 1: And the Ravens are also going to stick with their

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Speaker 1: here to this second and even third wave of free

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Speaker 1: agency where the Ravens have really found some gems over

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Speaker 1: the years. I mean, Cheeto Ousey even just last year

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Speaker 1: Ravens do have a long history of making hey at

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Speaker 3: So as we look.

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Speaker 3: And adding John Simpson was.

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Speaker 1: A really big move, a three year deal, bringing back

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Speaker 3: He's been durable.

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Speaker 1: A lot of things I love about John Simpson. I

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Speaker 3: As it stands right now.

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Speaker 1: You have Emery Jones, who they drafted in the third

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Speaker 3: They also have Andrew Warriors.

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Speaker 1: He was a seventeen game starter last year, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that I see them signing another veteran

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Speaker 2: so that's also part of the competition mix in there.

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Speaker 1: I expect him more in the center competition, yeah, is

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Speaker 2: I think I generally see it the same way that

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Speaker 2: John Simpson was the addition at guard, and I didn't

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Speaker 2: which that possibility exists there as well. But if you

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Speaker 1: The reality is, you can't go out and sign plug

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Speaker 3: And you know, is there the chance that this young.

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Speaker 1: Player who hasn't proven it yet is better than that

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Speaker 1: Pivoting to the center conversation, after the loss of Tyle

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Speaker 3: They have to find their next starter.

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Speaker 1: And it's gonna be tough to find an upgrade at

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Speaker 1: you have to find an adequate, solid solution at that position.

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Speaker 1: As we mentioned earlier, the Ravens have reportedly agreed to

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Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts. They have also previously brought in Javon

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Speaker 1: line co slash run game coordinator Duane Ledford. And then

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Speaker 1: they have an in house solution in Corey Bullock, who

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Speaker 1: served as Lenderbaum's backup last year and you know, really

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Speaker 1: earned a lot of trust with his teammates and with

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Speaker 1: the previous coaching staff at least. So you have three

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Speaker 1: potentially even more moves to be made.

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Speaker 2: I think first and foremost just gives the Rays competition there,

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Speaker 2: and so the starter could come of one of these

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Speaker 2: Maybe the draft is an option, especially if somebody who

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Speaker 2: there's some positional flexibility that exists there.

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Speaker 3: And Javon and Gwinn certainly positioned flex.

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Speaker 1: Fourth round pick who when he left the Ravens after

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Speaker 3: Ultimately, I don't think that they're going to sign anymore.

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Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a good, healthy competition

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what I think they've done here at center is

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Speaker 3: Possibly? Could you still get a starter in the third round?

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Speaker 3: You certainly could, right, could you.

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Speaker 1: So I think what they've done right now is kind

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Speaker 3: But you don't have to You're not boxed in right now.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure that Dwayne Lefford, the Ravens new offensive line

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Speaker 2: But with the addition of these signings, these veteran players,

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Speaker 2: We also could augment the position through the draft. Maybe

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Speaker 1: All Right, another position of need, and the Ravens obviously

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Speaker 3: Doesn't think He doesn't think that's likely.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when I heard that, I thought about, just are

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Speaker 2: But could he all of a sudden if Ruben Bain

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Speaker 2: That possibility I think I think exists. The Ravens have

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Speaker 1: and it's kind of.

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Speaker 3: You what do you project there? Will will he get

440
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Speaker 3: to that?

441
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Speaker 1: Or you know, are you drafting a great run stopper

442
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Speaker 1: at number fourteen?

443
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 3: Overall? I think that's kind of the question.

444
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 2: Well, also got great measurables. He's got for sure. His

445
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 2: measurables are through the roof. It's kind of what do

446
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,359
Speaker 2: you want and a guy and he's got it. But

447
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,200
Speaker 2: the projection of production is the question there.

448
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

449
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Speaker 1: Yes, So I think that at the end outside linebacker,

450
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Speaker 1: I expect that the Ravens are going to make another

451
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Speaker 1: move in free agency to bring in another veteran. I

452
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Speaker 1: don't think that it's going to be another break the

453
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Speaker 1: bank veteran. You know, as Eric Tacasa said, they tried

454
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Speaker 1: to get Max Crosby Andre Hendrickson, right, so they were

455
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 1: trying to double dip with that position, and they were

456
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Speaker 1: trying to aggressively do that. I don't I think Max Crosby,

457
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,680
Speaker 1: to your earlier point, was a special case and he's

458
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Speaker 1: a special player.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that they're.

460
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Speaker 1: Just going to, you know, throw around two first round

461
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Speaker 1: picks or even one first round pick or whatever willy

462
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 1: nilly to go get somebody else, like they're not just

463
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Speaker 1: committed to to spending those resources on somebody.

464
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Speaker 3: And so I think.

465
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Speaker 1: That, But I do believe that they the intention is clear,

466
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Speaker 1: the intentionality to upgrade the pass rush and do so

467
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:39,440
Speaker 1: aggressively is clear, and thus I believe that they will

468
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,120
Speaker 1: sign another edge in free agency.

469
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Speaker 2: Well, the Ravens do still have money to play with,

470
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Speaker 2: and that was something to Costa talked about too, is

471
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Speaker 2: that in this year they're in a bit of an

472
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Speaker 2: unfamiliar territory and that they have money available to them.

473
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Speaker 1: According to over the Cap, they ranked their sixteenth in

474
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Speaker 1: the league in salary cap space remaining, and so you

475
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Speaker 1: know they're they're in goods, a good spot right now.

476
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Speaker 1: But they also want to have a nest egg. You

477
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Speaker 1: know what, what are you going to need to carry

478
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Speaker 1: over for extensions for other things. They always like to

479
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Speaker 1: have a little bit of money so that at the

480
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Speaker 1: trade deadline they can make something happen. According to overthecap

481
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Speaker 1: dot com, right now, in salary cap space, the Ravens

482
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Speaker 1: have twenty eight point four to seven I think an

483
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 1: effective cap space it's closer to about twenty two. And

484
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Speaker 1: so but they're they're in they're in fine position right now,

485
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Speaker 1: they're in strong position.

486
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Speaker 3: I think they have the capability to make some more moves.

487
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Speaker 2: They do, and the Ravens are a team that spends

488
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Speaker 2: to the cap historically speaking, and so you would they

489
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Speaker 2: have that money to spend, I would expect them to

490
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Speaker 2: spend it. And that's going to be combined with draft

491
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Speaker 2: picks and and free agent acquisitions, but yeah, I expect

492
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Speaker 2: them to spend there. The question to me is, like,

493
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Speaker 2: how is there a big move still on the horizon,

494
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Speaker 2: and like what is a big move? Like it doesn't

495
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 2: get much bigger than the Max Crosby trade, and you know,

496
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 2: that's like one of the biggest moves in the NFL.

497
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Speaker 2: So I don't think that there's that level of move

498
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Speaker 2: that's still to be made. And then especially after you

499
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Speaker 2: give Cherry Hendrickson the big contract reported over one hundred

500
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Speaker 2: million dollar contract, hundred twelve million dollar contract. So like,

501
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 2: as Eric Cossa said, that was the break the bank

502
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Speaker 2: move right there, that already happened. But I don't know,

503
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Speaker 2: I'm not crossing off the idea of the Ravens still

504
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:35,159
Speaker 2: still taking a big ish swing between now and the

505
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Speaker 2: start of the season, like if they were willing to

506
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Speaker 2: do it. They were. They were trying to get Crosby,

507
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 2: they were trying to keep Linderbaum, they were trying to

508
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Speaker 2: bring in Hendrickson, all kind of simultaneously, all as those

509
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 2: things were all happening. Those are major swings and big moves,

510
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 2: and so I just feel like the possibility is still

511
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 2: there if they feel like it's a player who could

512
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 2: come in and make an immediate impact and help this team.

513
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 2: For them to go out there and try to pull

514
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 2: off a big move, I don't know who that is,

515
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 2: I don't know what position that is, but I think that, like,

516
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 2: I'm just not I'm not crossing that offense saying there's

517
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 2: no way the Ravens make another big splash.

518
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 1: If they were to make that big splash. The position

519
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 1: I could see him making it at is wide receiver

520
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: and they already have Zay Flowers, two time Pro bowler.

521
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 1: Now bateman Eric Cassa talked about his belief in Rashad

522
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: and you know that they believe he can have a

523
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 1: resurgenciason under Declan Doyle in the first year of that offense.

524
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Speaker 1: And we've all seen how talented Rashot is. You know,

525
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: when he's healthy and things are clicking, he can be awesome.

526
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 3: And but.

527
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Speaker 1: What a third, a third wide receiver in that mix,

528
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Speaker 1: having a trio, an elite trio, would really help this

529
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 1: offense and Lamar Jackson and so that is kind of

530
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 1: the one position, and sometimes you get these big deals.

531
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Speaker 1: I mean even just today, Jaylen Waddall to the Denver

532
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: Bronco is an aggressive move by Denver. Give I'm a

533
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 1: first round pick and a third round pick essentially for

534
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Speaker 1: Jalen Waddle.

535
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Speaker 3: Big move.

536
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, obviously there's been tons of buzz around the

537
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 1: possibility that a J. Brown gets traded. Who knows whether

538
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: that materializes or not. He could very well just stay

539
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 1: in Philly. The Eagles just signed Mark Ease Brown, Hollywood Brown,

540
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 1: So how does that impact that situation? Who knows, But

541
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: that would kind of be the position that I could

542
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 1: see if they were going to make a splashier move.

543
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 3: Well, now, I do think it's worth of saying.

544
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Speaker 1: Eric Tacasas specifically said, I don't think we're going to

545
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: make a break the bank move right now.

546
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 2: You mentioned the three wide receiver point, Well, look at

547
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 2: the last few years with the Ravens. They've had a

548
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 2: big name veteran receiver on this team exactly Odell Beckham

549
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 2: junior back in twenty twenty three, last year, DeAndre Hopkins.

550
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 2: Like there, these are highly productive, big name guys, and

551
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 2: the salary for each of them was different paid more

552
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 2: for Beckham than you did for Hopkins, So that was

553
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 2: more the kind of the splashier move I think where

554
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 2: the Hopkins move, big name future Hall of Fame player,

555
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 2: but not commanding either a trade composition or a massive contract.

556
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 2: So is there could Hopkins come back? Could there be

557
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 2: somebody else in that range that you could get who

558
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 2: like is a big name but is not a break

559
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 2: the bank type of player to pair along with, say

560
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 2: Flowers and Rashad Bateman. Now the piece there too is

561
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 2: like the Ravens, Like we spent a lot of time

562
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 2: just on the offensive line talking about, Hey, they like

563
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,479
Speaker 2: Amory Jones. They really liked Ted Walker and he had

564
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 2: some nice moments last year.

565
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: Eric Costa spoke about that in an interviewed with one

566
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 1: of five to seven the fan, Right, you know about

567
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 1: how you know, Davonte has really proved himself making some

568
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: big plays.

569
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 3: Here's a speedster stretch the field.

570
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: I mean, when he got opportunities he made, he almost

571
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: always made the play. Yeah, and so usual those guys,

572
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: Eric Costa said, he him taking you another leap this year.

573
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 1: And so I'm intrigued in Devonte's as that number three

574
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 1: or number four field stretching whatever it is. I expect

575
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: a bigger role for devontees Walker moving forward.

576
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. And if that's the case, again, if you feel

577
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 2: that how much she spent it, If you feel like,

578
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 2: hey man, this guy is ready to explode, He's ready

579
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 2: to take a big jump. And we got three really

580
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 2: good receivers there in Zay Bateman and Devonte's Walker, then

581
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 2: it's probably not worth going up and giving up draft

582
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 2: compensation plus the salary to go try to get in

583
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 2: the wide receiver market, which is always a very expensive market.

584
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 2: The other piece of it too, and this is this

585
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 2: is kind of looking forward and I look at the

586
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 2: overall business of the team this offseason. This is the

587
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 2: first year that Jay Flowers is eligible for our contract extension,

588
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 2: and so that to me, like, as we get into

589
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 2: this next phase of free agency, I start thinking about

590
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 2: could there be guys who are already on the team

591
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 2: that you could get contract extensions done with early.

592
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Speaker 1: That's who I was kind of referencing, and I said,

593
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: you have this salary cap space, but could some of

594
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: those some of that be used for extensions for guys

595
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: you currently have at Zay Flowers number is gonna be big.

596
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Remember that happens.

597
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: Hopefully it happens here in Baltimore and he's here for

598
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: a long time. Whatever that number is is gonna be big.

599
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 2: Right, And does it happen this offseason? Does it? Wait?

600
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 2: I mean there's not. It's relatively rare that guys start

601
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 2: getting contracts after their third season, but not impossible. Just

602
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 2: happened last year for the Ravens with Kyle Hamilton. But

603
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 2: the longer you wait, the more the price goes up,

604
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 2: the harder gets to keep guys once they hit the

605
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 2: open market. We just saw that with Tyler Linderbaum. So

606
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 2: do the Ravens try to get a deal done with

607
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 2: Zay Flowers? Now? Another one that comes to mind Tavius Robinson.

608
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 2: He's going into the last year of his contracts. You know,

609
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 2: different price point than than you know, a Pro Bowl

610
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 2: wide receiver, but still really solid player.

611
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 3: I could see the Ravens being interested in retaining on

612
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 3: an extension.

613
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 2: Like He's another one. So I just think that those

614
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 2: are questions that as you look ahead to like the

615
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 2: overall team and the Ross re building process, do we

616
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 2: start to see some of those deals get worked on

617
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 2: at this point?

618
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, To continue our conversation about positions of need and

619
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Speaker 1: where we could see the Ravens going next defensive line

620
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: defensive tackle. Is there still a veteran move to be

621
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: made there? The status of Nomdi Manabique continues.

622
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 3: To be unclear.

623
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: And you know, nobody Eric Causes not tipped his hand

624
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: in regards to that, nobody's tip of their end. Everybody's

625
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: gonna let Nomni speak for himself. What Nomnia is saying

626
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: through his workout videos is like he's getting ready to

627
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: do something right. I don't know. I don't think he's

628
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: training that hard to deliver the morning newspaper right and so,

629
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: but is he hoping that medically he's cleared and he's

630
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: just staying in shape until he gets that is he?

631
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 3: We don't know. We don't know.

632
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: And I like that he's working out. I love the signs.

633
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: I love the social media signs.

634
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 2: Well that's the thing, like get it's cost basically said

635
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 2: the same thing. So the book's not written on him yet,

636
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 2: but I like seeing those videos. Yeah that's pretty great.

637
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 3: Yep.

638
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 2: So yeah, to your question, like could there be a

639
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 2: move on the defensive line, I think a lot of

640
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 2: that comes down to what's his status?

641
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 3: Yep.

642
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 2: If Matta Bigay is coming back, then that obviously makes

643
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 2: defensive line much less of a priority. If it's in question,

644
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 2: or if he's not, then all of a sudden, you've

645
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 2: got a need there, and that to me, until we

646
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 2: have clarity on that, it's hard to answer that question

647
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 2: as to whether or not the Raves would make a

648
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 2: move there.

649
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: I think that they probably will. I think they're ultimately

650
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: going going to make a move there. And I mean,

651
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: luckily they got ahead of making one move, which was

652
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: retaining Travis Jones on the extension before last year ended.

653
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: That was a really big deal to get done. Travis

654
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: is a very good player, and gosh, it could have

655
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: been another free agency departure this offseason that would have been.

656
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 3: A tough pill to swallow.

657
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: They also re signed John Jenkins, re upped him for

658
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Speaker 1: another year, and then they have returning Broader Washington also

659
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Speaker 1: on that defensive line.

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Speaker 3: Am missing anybody?

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Speaker 2: Brenn Urban has been, you know, on the team on

662
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 2: and off the past couple of years, but practice squad

663
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 2: and and but he's been He's played good number snaps

664
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Speaker 2: past few years. He's a free agent, right and so

665
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 2: has he come back? Has he done? Who knows, but

666
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Speaker 2: he's another one that was on the team last.

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Speaker 1: Year, right, But then yeah, I mean the beauty part

668
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Speaker 1: of the beauty of the Max Crosby deal is he's

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Speaker 1: not your stand up outside linebacker exclusively. You know, he's

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Speaker 1: a d end and so he also kind of helped,

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Speaker 1: you know, when we were talking about Max and we

672
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Speaker 1: were talking about all the different pass rushers you could

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Speaker 1: get on the field at the same time because he

674
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Speaker 1: can play d ND.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Now you know, Trey is more of a stand up

677
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: outside linebacker more so than Max's kind of So how

678
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Speaker 1: does the puzzle fit together in terms of the defensive line.

679
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Speaker 1: I say all this to say I think that the

680
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Speaker 1: Ravens will probably bring in another free agent defense. You know,

681
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Speaker 1: you look at Travis Jones and John Jenkins. They're technically

682
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Speaker 1: both nose tackles, right. Brody, you know, is a or

683
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Speaker 1: of a five to three technique kind of guy, versatile, But.

684
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Speaker 3: I think you could use another d tackle d end.

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Speaker 2: I think the Ravens have a pretty good track record

686
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Speaker 2: of finding those guys too that like they're not first

687
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Speaker 2: day of free agency signing. John Jenkins is a perfect example,

688
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,479
Speaker 2: Like when the Ravens signed him late in the process

689
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 2: last year, there's like no buzz about that move, ends

690
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 2: up playing a ton of snaps, plays at a high level,

691
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 2: gets a contract extension last year. So like, I think

692
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Speaker 2: that those are the types of moves. So Ravens have

693
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Speaker 2: a really good history of pulling off, and it would

694
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Speaker 2: not surprise me at all if there's another one like that.

695
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Speaker 1: Yep in last spot that I'll point to tight End.

696
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: Ravens got a deal done with Durham Smythe, but they're

697
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Speaker 1: not done at tight End after you had the double

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Speaker 1: departures with Isaiah Likelye and Charlie Kohler, So I anticipate

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Speaker 1: that from this point it's more likely draft is the

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Speaker 1: solution there. We've talked several times now about the possibility

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Speaker 1: of double dip situation, which the Ravens have a long

702
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Speaker 1: track record of doing so. Then at four times in

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Speaker 1: franchise history, I think they very well could again. Eric

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Speaker 1: de Cossa said again in his interview on one in

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Speaker 1: five seven that at the end of the day they

706
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Speaker 1: very well could bring in two more tight ends even

707
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Speaker 1: after Durham Durham Smythe is kind of your Charlie Kohler

708
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Speaker 1: slash Pat Ricard replacement. He's a bit of a two

709
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Speaker 1: for one in that the Ravens are not going to

710
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Speaker 1: have a traditional fullback moving forward, which is why they

711
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Speaker 1: didn't really aggressively pursue patent free agency. They're going to

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Speaker 1: use tight ends to fill that role. That's what Declan

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Speaker 1: Doyle did in Chicago, and so I think Durham smythe

714
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Speaker 1: will will certainly do some of that here in Baltimore.

715
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Speaker 1: But you know, so let's just say he's almost like

716
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Speaker 1: a Pat slash Charlie replacement. You still need probably another

717
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Speaker 1: guy who can block, and you need a primary receiving

718
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:03,760
Speaker 1: tight end. Eric Tauasa said they want hybrid, multi faceted

719
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: tight ends. Of course, that's what you always want. This

720
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 1: year's draft is really deep at tight end, like really deep,

721
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Speaker 1: and so I think it's ripe for the opportunity for

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Speaker 1: Baltimore to draft two.

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Speaker 3: Uh here, come in April.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I know you're gonna try. You're gonna

725
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Speaker 2: try to steal the double dip move from me in

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Speaker 2: the mock draft somorrow.

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Speaker 3: Come on.

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Speaker 2: You know I'm laying claim to it right now. Two guys,

729
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Speaker 2: right now, you're not allowed to do it.

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Speaker 3: You're both gonna take two guys.

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Speaker 2: Just try not to take one of the either the

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Speaker 2: guy I could.

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Speaker 3: Avoid a double dip. When I go to the ice

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Speaker 3: cream drug.

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Speaker 2: I know you never go to a single. Yeah, the

736
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Speaker 2: Ravens are gonna they have eleven draft picks, and based

737
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Speaker 2: on what everybody is saying about this draft class is

738
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Speaker 2: that it's a really talented, really deep class. I think

739
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Speaker 2: that the Ravens, given their history, given their knees, they're

740
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Speaker 2: probably gonna end up taking two tight ends. And I

741
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Speaker 2: like the possibility of of I like their ability to

742
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Speaker 2: find some really good tight ends. Like look at what

743
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Speaker 2: they've done and drafting tight ends over the course of

744
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Speaker 2: their franchise history. I think they'll as he knew something,

745
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Speaker 2: he knows a thing or two about drafting tight ends,

746
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Speaker 2: is scouting those guys. So I think that the Ravens

747
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Speaker 2: have a really a lot of success whichever that tight

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Speaker 2: end they end up picking.

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Speaker 1: I feel, like we've said already over the course of

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Speaker 1: this podcast, like a number of thing players are going

751
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Speaker 1: to draft.

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Speaker 3: Let's just go through this real quick. Huh.

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Speaker 1: Eleven picks, Okay, wide receiver, Yeah, I don't. I don't

754
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Speaker 1: know about two, all right, don't erase this from your

755
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Speaker 1: memory when you're doing your mock. By the way, this

756
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Speaker 1: is really exercise for myself. Why wide receiver, defensive lineman,

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Speaker 1: d ND tackle.

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Speaker 3: Okay, two tight ends. That's four picks. Okay, Uh punter,

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Speaker 3: punter okay, good, good one, sure you punter? Uh edge? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Pat treshure right edge, that's six.

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Speaker 2: They might there might be a double dip there. Guard.

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Speaker 2: There be a double dip in edge too.

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Speaker 3: All right, well, let's just put one on the list

764
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Speaker 3: right now. That's six. Guard. That's seven. Center.

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Speaker 2: It depends what happens in free agency.

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Speaker 3: It's okay, it's eight.

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Speaker 2: I'm not as convinced on that one. You're basically just

768
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Speaker 2: naming every position on the team here. Uh, wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: They always running back run left as a key left

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Speaker 1: running back's kind of a sneaky little bit of a

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Speaker 1: sneaky need.

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Speaker 2: There's really maybe I.

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Speaker 1: Mean Rashina leads the number three. Do you have you

774
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Speaker 1: enter some competition there?

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Speaker 3: That'd be nine.

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Speaker 2: I think receiver. They always try said, you already got

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Speaker 2: that on the list. Okay, yeah, I'm losing track of

778
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Speaker 2: what all you have. Well, you know.

779
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Speaker 3: You've got of room. We as we saw some moment slots.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of my point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you can afford a double dip a tight end.

782
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Speaker 2: I think you can definitely afford that. I can see

783
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Speaker 2: I can see a double dip tight end. I can

784
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Speaker 2: see double dip at edge. I can see a double

785
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Speaker 2: dip on the offensive line, interior, offensive line, guard, center, tripled,

786
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Speaker 2: it tripled. I don't know about the triple dip. But yeah,

787
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Speaker 2: when you have eleven picks, you have the ability to

788
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Speaker 2: basically address every single corner position on the team.

789
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Speaker 3: The corner always going draft a corner, Yeah, you draft

790
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Speaker 3: the safety.

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Speaker 2: Probably not, but but I'm not going to rule it

792
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Speaker 2: out because you get, what are you gonna do with

793
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Speaker 2: all these eleven picks?

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Speaker 3: Maybe not impossible. I mean, who do you have beyond

795
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Speaker 3: your top three? Right now? You lost two belowe in

796
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Speaker 3: ard areas.

797
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Speaker 1: You replaced one with Jalen Hawkins, who's really morely a

798
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Speaker 1: low he replacement.

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Speaker 2: Yeah maybe maybe.

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Speaker 1: Uh so, right now raise that from there's a man

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Speaker 1: in black moon right now, look right into the lazer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the expert analysis, they're going to take one of

803
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Speaker 2: every position in the draft.

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Speaker 1: All right, Speaking of the draft, when we come back,

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about how the Ravens have their

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Speaker 1: first round pick back number fourteen overall, and how we

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Speaker 1: could see them approaching that pick.

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Speaker 2: So we just laid out all seven rounds of the draft.

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Speaker 2: What about the first round pick fourteen? It is kind

814
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Speaker 2: of exciting, like like, look, everyone was fired up about

815
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Speaker 2: the Max Cross your potential deal, but then when you realize, Okay, now,

816
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Speaker 2: now the first round of the draft is one that

817
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Speaker 2: I'm going to be tuned into again. Now I'm excited.

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Speaker 2: Now I get to have the have that moment on

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Speaker 2: the first round. That is an exciting thing.

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Speaker 1: I think part of the Max Crosby thought process was

821
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Speaker 1: like drafts in Pittsburgh this year.

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Speaker 3: Like, nah, we're good, I'm good on the Pittsford.

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Speaker 2: I don't don't want to have any part of the

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh connection. I'm gonna guess that's probably was not part

825
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Speaker 2: of the calculation, but it's like, now you're looking at

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Speaker 2: when the Ravens have drafted this high, they've had a

827
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Speaker 2: lot of success. Kyle Hamilton was picked fourteen, So who's

828
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Speaker 2: the Kyle Hamilton in this draft? And honestly, like, this

829
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Speaker 2: is really how I feel like. I use Kyle Hamilton

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Speaker 2: as an example, and it's easy to point to that

831
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Speaker 2: because of where he was he was drafted. But the

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Speaker 2: Ravens always do a great job of finding guys who

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Speaker 2: fall down the board for one reason and another. And

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Speaker 2: when you're picking this high, I think that they're I

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Speaker 2: just I am anticipating it on draft night that the

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Speaker 2: analysis from Mel Kuiper and Daniel Jeremiah is how did

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Speaker 2: this guy get to the Ravens? Like That's how I

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Speaker 2: really feel about it. And maybe it's ruben Bain like

839
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Speaker 2: we talked about earlier, But I just think there's going

840
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Speaker 2: to be somebody that for one reason another could be

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Speaker 2: positional value, it could be not a great performance at

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Speaker 2: the combine, it could be a little light on the measurables,

843
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Speaker 2: or any combination of those things. I think that there's

844
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Speaker 2: gonna be somebody there who people are shocked that he

845
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Speaker 2: got to fourteen. The Ravens are not thrown off by

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Speaker 2: whatever that factor is, draft him and he ends up

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Speaker 2: becoming a really good player. That's my expectation.

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Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, I agree, I agree with that.

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Speaker 1: I think it's it's exciting to have the fourteenth pick

850
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Speaker 1: because the Ravens traditionally get a really good player there

851
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Speaker 1: that's a plug and play starter. So what need are

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Speaker 1: they going to fill with that first round pick? And

853
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Speaker 1: the most popular first round projection? Should I just stick

854
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Speaker 1: my fight right now? Should I do it? I'm putting

855
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Speaker 1: in pencil, which means you still can't touch it. Okay, okay,

856
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Speaker 1: because I could put it in an ink. Penn State's

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Speaker 1: vega Ione Right, the guard just a mauling guard set

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Speaker 1: at the Combine, that he wants to kill people out

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Speaker 1: there or something like that. I mean, could this is

860
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Speaker 1: the pick like that you're talking about?

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jeremiah told us of the Combine, he's the number

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Speaker 2: one offensive lineman on his board, right, number one, the

863
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 2: best offensive lineman in this draft.

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Speaker 1: Just guard, but the best offensive line of that tackles

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Speaker 1: all that stuff. But you don't usually typically hear that

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Speaker 1: about a guard. Correct, He's the top offensive line and that.

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Speaker 2: You don't get him till and that he doesn't go

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Speaker 2: off the board till fourteen, right, So, like you just

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Speaker 2: if you get the best offensive lineman in the draft

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Speaker 2: at fourteen, he fits the mold of what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 2: Him and the two guys that just real quick that

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Speaker 2: come to mind when I just laid out all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: The two guys that really I think of our Vega

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Speaker 2: Ione and then Ruben Bain the pass rusher for Miami, yep.

875
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Speaker 1: And so Vega would certainly help upgrade this offensive line. Again,

876
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: we got done talking about the competition at guard. You know,

877
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: he would certainly shake that up to a bit to

878
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: a large degree, but he could be a plug and

879
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: play starter. And wow, you got him and John Simpson

880
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: at guard. We can make it work at center with

881
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: that offensive line, right, And so that is a I

882
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 1: think would be a really good avenue for the Ravens

883
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: to go. Also, I think there could be the prospect

884
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: of a wide receiver sitting there for the Ravens at

885
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: fourteen that.

886
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 3: Could be too good to pass up.

887
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: And we just had the conversation, say, Flowers Bateman, you

888
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: know Devontes Walker, do you bring in somebody else? If

889
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:30,720
Speaker 1: the Ravens added another veteran there took a bigger swing.

890
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: I would doubt that they drafted first round wide reever.

891
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: If they did not, I don't think that that's off

892
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: the table, you know. And so some of the names

893
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: that you'd be looking at there, McKay lemon, I think

894
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 1: Tait is going to be gone from from Ohio State.

895
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 1: Your guy Cordell tap Carnell Tait, thank you very much.

896
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: I look at a makayle Lemon out of USC and

897
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: another player I really like on tape is uh Jordan

898
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 1: Tyson from Arizona State, and I think that that dude

899
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 1: can ball.

900
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:11,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jordan Tyson Daniel Jeremiah in a recent mock draft,

901
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 2: he's the one that he has the Ravens taking him.

902
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: Big player, has some injury issues in college, and so

903
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 2: that's part of the reason that he could be there

904
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 2: at fourteen.

905
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: Playmaker with the ball in his hands, run after catch,

906
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: just kind of I look at him and I watched

907
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: that dude's tapment.

908
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 2: I say, dog, yeah, so you're you're you're leaning right now,

909
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 2: then what you're saying, I got vegan pencil, okay, vegas

910
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 2: and pencil, Okay, vegas and pencil. Okay. I'm just trying

911
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 2: to keep tracks. You've now we've now taken a couple

912
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 2: of receivers.

913
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 3: You've got to saying there's a possibility.

914
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I get all that. As we're sitting here

915
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 2: today right now, I would be a little surprised if

916
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 2: it's receiver, because I think the Ravens have two really

917
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 2: talented receivers and save Flowers and.

918
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 1: Versus too many needs to spend the luxury pick on

919
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: a guy who's not a plug and place started feels.

920
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 2: That way, and if you have this need at pass rusher.

921
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 2: Now again it depends on how the board falls and

922
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 2: all this stuff that we're trying to project out here.

923
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 2: But sitting here today in mid March, it would surprise

924
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 2: me a little bit if it was a wide receiver.

925
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 2: I just think you could address the offensive line or

926
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 2: that defensive front, basically trenches on either side of the ball.

927
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 2: This seems to be what I would think is more

928
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 2: likely at this time.

929
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 1: The issue I think at at edge is you know

930
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: there's Fulk and who else could.

931
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 2: Potentially be Bain is the example?

932
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: Well Baine, Yeah, but I don't think that Bain's most

933
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: likely going to get there. If he does, I agree

934
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: with you, I think I think if Bain gets to fourteen,

935
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: that is a really tough pass. Yeah, really tough considering

936
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: that guy.

937
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 3: He plays like a raven. You watch him play, he

938
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 3: plays like a raven. Short arms, you know, be damned.

939
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 1: And so I agree if Bain gets there, But is

940
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: there another pass rusher that's worth the pick at fourteen?

941
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 2: I think it's the question, right Keldric Falk earlier out

942
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 2: of Auburn, He's not. His pass rush production is limited,

943
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 2: but he could fit the mold of a guy that

944
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 2: can get out of the quarterback and affect the quarterback.

945
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 2: But he's not. He's not a In his college career,

946
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 2: he's not been a double digit sack guy. But could

947
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:20,919
Speaker 2: he develop into that. I'm not rolling that out.

948
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 3: Yep.

949
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: The latest pick, by the way from Melkaber junior friend

950
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: of the lounge Baltimore guy Ravens guy Spencer Fano. So

951
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: you know, he's been an awesome offensive tackle but hasn't

952
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: played inside at all, and so it's a it's a

953
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: projection for him, and I guess I'm a little bit

954
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 1: nervous about projecting a player that hasn't played the position,

955
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 1: and and and center would be a really big projection.

956
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 1: To me, guard is one thing center with all the

957
00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 1: calls that are involved in the mental aspect of the game, snapping,

958
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 1: you know, if you don't have a track record of

959
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,720
Speaker 1: doing that, like that, you're really projecting a tackle to center.

960
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: Not to say that it's impossible, but that it's quite

961
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: a potent projection, especially in the first round at fourteen,

962
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 1: especially right you're using yeah exactly And now maybe maybe

963
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: you know, if the Ravens feel like, hey, this guy

964
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 1: could be the top guard, you know, then maybe they

965
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: would prefer that over Vega. I don't know, but Spencer

966
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: Fino out of Utah is definitely going to be a

967
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:32,280
Speaker 1: name we talk a lot about.

968
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, the last position that I'll point to, and I'm

969
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 2: not ruling out a first round corner the Ravens just

970
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 2: did a couple years ago with Nate Wait. I don't

971
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 2: think it kind of falls into the luxury item category

972
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 2: because the Ravens have their top corners and Nate Wigan's

973
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 2: and cheto Uzia and Marlin Humphrey. But like, this is

974
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 2: the team that just consistently believes in building strong outside

975
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 2: corner play. And how much longer do you have with

976
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 2: Marlon you know, Cheetah's on a one year deal, So

977
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: do you want to if there's a great player sitting

978
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 2: there at fourteen? Uh? And the other thing too, like

979
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 2: Ravens have drafted.

980
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 1: Lsu kid from that hails from the Baltimore area.

981
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 2: Right to delay lane DeLine.

982
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, thank you very much.

983
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 2: But like when you look at corner, when the Ravens

984
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 2: have drafted corners, it's not necessarily been the biggest need.

985
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 2: When they drafted Marlin, they had two starting corners. When

986
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 2: they drafted Nate Wiggings, he didn't have to come in

987
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: and start right away.

988
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,760
Speaker 1: And so that kind of goes in the wide receiver

989
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: conversation of like, you have your starters in place, what's

990
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: the long term outlook at the position? It's a certainly

991
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: a premium position. So if you have a player you

992
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 1: know corner wide receivers or premium spots, If you have

993
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: a player you really like there and they're staring at

994
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 1: the fit in the face at fourteen, might be too

995
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: tempting to pass up. Yeah, for the positional value that

996
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: you can get there. Yeah, I think that's a good point.

997
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: I The last one that I'll mention is a possible

998
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: kind of luxury would be at tight end, you know,

999
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,919
Speaker 1: in the Kenyon Sadik out of Oregon, the best tight

1000
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: end in this year's class premiere receiving threat. I mean,

1001
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 1: he could really help offset the loss certainly of Isaiah

1002
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: likely give you another red zone yards have to catch.

1003
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 3: Guy loves the block.

1004
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: He's put people on their backs all the time, very

1005
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: very I mean, and then just exploded at the combine

1006
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: off the charts athletically.

1007
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 3: Again, that would kind of be a.

1008
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: Little bit more of a luxury to say, Man, we're

1009
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: gonna go first round number fourteen tight end when you

1010
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: have Mark Andrews already.

1011
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,879
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think that's a little less likely,

1012
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 3: but I wouldn't rule out yet.

1013
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 2: No.

1014
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,760
Speaker 1: To me, it comes down to when are you getting

1015
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: your offensive lineman and guard right, Like, there's a lot

1016
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: of second round guards that are could be really good besantists.

1017
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 1: There's a pregnant out of Oregon. Like, so if you

1018
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: don't go Vega and you get a second round guard,

1019
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: who do you go.

1020
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 3: With in the first round. That's kind of the big

1021
00:48:58,640 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 3: question for me.

1022
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 2: All Right, So as always, you can email us at

1023
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 2: the lounge at Ravens NFL dot net. We're going to

1024
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 2: continue breaking all of this down leading up to the draft.

1025
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 2: We always appreciate your thoughts and emails, so send them along.

1026
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening. We'll be back with

1027
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