WEBVTT - Chloe Bailey

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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin. So, do you have a favorite vocal exercise that

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<v Speaker 1>we do. I love all of the ones where we

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<v Speaker 1>do the minor scale going down because they're still challenging

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<v Speaker 1>for me and I love a good challenge. I love

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<v Speaker 1>all of those. That's me chatting with Chloe Bailey, singer, dancer, actress, producer.

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<v Speaker 1>She does it all. And then I love like the

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<v Speaker 1>car engine startup. That's a great one. You show people

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<v Speaker 1>what that is. How does it go? It goes, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like an old fashioned card, And I love like always

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<v Speaker 1>feeling my stomach jump and move with it, and I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I'm getting an app exercise at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Backstage Pass with Eric Vitro, and I'm Eric Vitro.

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<v Speaker 1>On this show, I talked to some of the most

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<v Speaker 1>talented and famous singers working today about their lives, their craft,

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<v Speaker 1>and what it takes to make it really big. I

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<v Speaker 1>happen to be their voice teacher and their vocal coach,

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<v Speaker 1>so our conversations are uniquely different from their usual interviews. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get back to talking about warming up. I love

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<v Speaker 1>that you mentioned singing a minor scale because most of

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<v Speaker 1>the time people only sing major scales, right, Yes, and

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<v Speaker 1>I notice like even sometimes when you'll be like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>speed it up here, it'll help me with my riffing

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<v Speaker 1>and the accuracy and hitting the notes. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I love those so much, because it's like

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<v Speaker 1>confusing my brain. It's like what's going on here, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a puzzle piece, But then it really helps

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to riffing and like doing all the

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<v Speaker 1>fun vocal acrobats you want to do. You may know

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<v Speaker 1>Chloe as one half of the duo Chloe and Hallie

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<v Speaker 1>and their songs do It Happy Without Me or on

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<v Speaker 1>Godly Hour, or you might have seen Chloe on the

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<v Speaker 1>TV show Grownish, which her sister Hallie was also on,

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<v Speaker 1>or you might know her from her blossoming solo career.

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<v Speaker 1>I met Chloe when I was working with her sister, Hallie.

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely remember how he first met. It was at

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<v Speaker 1>your house and my sister was with you, and she

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<v Speaker 1>was working on a Little Mermaid right when she got

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<v Speaker 1>the role, and I was there at my whole family

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember meeting you and your beautiful dog. You

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<v Speaker 1>were so effervested in, so outgoing. I felt like I

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<v Speaker 1>had an instant connection with you. I felt the same. Eric,

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<v Speaker 1>I felt the same, and I was like, Wow, Eric

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<v Speaker 1>is such a sweet, sweet spirit. I can't wait to

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<v Speaker 1>work with him. One day, we were rehearsing in my

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<v Speaker 1>living room, but then you and I went in the

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<v Speaker 1>studio for a little while ami talking, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like I already knew you. So I was really excited.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you didn't call for a couple months. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, yeah, well, because for me it was

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<v Speaker 1>like you were training Hallie and I wanted her to

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<v Speaker 1>feel completely confident and comfortable before she went out to Europe,

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<v Speaker 1>and I didn't want to overstep that. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>like the big sis, little sis thing. I'm so proud

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<v Speaker 1>of Hallie and I want her to feel like she

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<v Speaker 1>can stand on her own and be just as great

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<v Speaker 1>and don't really have me interfere sometimes. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>once I knew she kind of found her footing in Europe,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, I can hit up Eric. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have never thought that, but that's so sweet

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<v Speaker 1>of you. You're amazing things. Wow. When I felt it

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<v Speaker 1>was time to start really improving my vocals, I was

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<v Speaker 1>like Eric, Eric, Eric, Eric, And then that's when I

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<v Speaker 1>hit you up and I was like, I have to,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to, and I was so happy that we

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<v Speaker 1>finally got to work together. Well did all that. I

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<v Speaker 1>was thrilled. And the bonus was that I discovered Chloe

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<v Speaker 1>is a blast to work with moments, like a hyper

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<v Speaker 1>bubbly person. And it's really funny because people don't really

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<v Speaker 1>know that unless they know me personally, because the way

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of perform and the way I like pose

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, I seem like this ultra confident, like boss

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<v Speaker 1>batty girl, but like inside, I'm such a nerd and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like so goofy and clumsy and like hyper and energetic.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's really funny how I have different layers to myself.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it turns out Chloe's been singing basically her entire life.

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<v Speaker 1>I started singing right when I came out of my

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<v Speaker 1>mom and I remember my untie Mail tells the story

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<v Speaker 1>all the time, how I was two years old in

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<v Speaker 1>the back of her car and Alicia keys Fallen was

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<v Speaker 1>on and I was singing my heart out in the

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<v Speaker 1>back and she wasn't used to that like my parents were,

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<v Speaker 1>and she ran home and she was like, do you

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<v Speaker 1>know your daughter can sing? And I had vibrata in

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<v Speaker 1>my voice while I was singing Fallen. I wish I

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<v Speaker 1>could go back in time and just kind of look

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<v Speaker 1>at myself then. But I've always always loved music, something

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<v Speaker 1>about it, and I grew up loving Tony Braxon and

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<v Speaker 1>Beyonce and Destiny's Child. And when I turned around eight

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<v Speaker 1>or nine, my dream was to be a Broadway star. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to be young Nylon Lyon King so bad

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<v Speaker 1>and I finally got it, but it was for Broadway

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<v Speaker 1>and not the tour and my family. We just ended

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<v Speaker 1>up staying in Atlanta and I did a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>plays in theater and I was like, I'm gonna win

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<v Speaker 1>Tony's one day. My dream is to be a Broadway star.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's because I love to dance and

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<v Speaker 1>perform while I was singing, because even when I was younger,

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<v Speaker 1>I've always been such an expressive person with my face

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<v Speaker 1>and my body, like my whole soul. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I was so drawn to Broadway at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it kind of moved to just wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>be a huge mainstream performer and artist and entertainer because

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<v Speaker 1>I can bring that Broadway performing Since to that, and

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<v Speaker 1>then my beautiful sister came along. So as I was

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<v Speaker 1>singing and performing, we were always together like this, like

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<v Speaker 1>attached at the hip. So when she saw me doing

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<v Speaker 1>what I was doing, She's like, Chloe, I want to join.

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<v Speaker 1>And it kind of became a bonding thing for us

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<v Speaker 1>to sing and do everything together. And they do work

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<v Speaker 1>together so well, so naturally, when Chloe told me that

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<v Speaker 1>she wanted to wait for us to work together until

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<v Speaker 1>Hallie felt ready for The Little Mermaid, I shouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>been surprised. It speaks to how much they truly support

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<v Speaker 1>each other. Maybe that's why they've been performing together for

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<v Speaker 1>so long. We went to this summer camp at Spellman

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<v Speaker 1>University in Atlanta and they had a talent show and

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<v Speaker 1>Hallie and I decided to sing summertime, and we had

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<v Speaker 1>our matching like green tank tops and striped skirts and

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<v Speaker 1>these big flowers in our hair like Billy Holliday, and

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<v Speaker 1>we were up there singing, and that was the very

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<v Speaker 1>first time we really truly performed together in front of

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<v Speaker 1>an audience, and we won first place some time, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Livings Easy fisha Jumping and the Cottonisa and after

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<v Speaker 1>that we kind of just kept it going, and I

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<v Speaker 1>even remember we would go to clubs in our church

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<v Speaker 1>dresses and sing. When Chloe was around ten, she and

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<v Speaker 1>Hallie wanted to start creating their own original music and lyrics.

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<v Speaker 1>At that time, we were meeting producers and we'd bust

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<v Speaker 1>out singing for them in Atlanta. But it's like, really,

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<v Speaker 1>what can you write and produce for ten and eight

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<v Speaker 1>year olds? Like that's a little hard and it's a challenge.

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<v Speaker 1>But for us, we don't realize how young we truly are, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so no one was really biting because of that. Our

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<v Speaker 1>dad was like, Okay, you guys have to learn how

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<v Speaker 1>to do it on your own. I remember we all

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<v Speaker 1>sat at the table and we learned about songwriting structure

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<v Speaker 1>and how to apply figurative language into songwriting. And I

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<v Speaker 1>still remember that day clear as can be. And that

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<v Speaker 1>was the moment where we first started writing our music.

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<v Speaker 1>What was the first song that you actually wrote and

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<v Speaker 1>got recorded and release? The very first song that I

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<v Speaker 1>wrote with Hallie. It was called what makes You Sad?

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<v Speaker 1>And there was a long list of things that what

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<v Speaker 1>made us sad and it kind of sucked, but you

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<v Speaker 1>both sat together and yea, we sat at the table

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<v Speaker 1>with our dad and my sister and we made a

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<v Speaker 1>list of everything that made us sad, and we came

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<v Speaker 1>up and added the melody to it that never made

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<v Speaker 1>any records. How was the chorus? Can you sing a

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<v Speaker 1>little of the course it went well? She said, losing

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<v Speaker 1>your ones? What makes you said the invitrate like a

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<v Speaker 1>cost fan? Oh wow? That I could see a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people relating to. Yeah, it was like it was

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<v Speaker 1>a bit depressing. I can't lie, but you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>was the foundation of everything and it just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>went up from there. Everyone around Atlanta would be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you should start doing covers like it's a new thing,

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<v Speaker 1>because they would say Justin Bieber got discovered off of

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube cover such such got discovered. We were like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about that, and you know, I'm the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest Beyonce fan. One day, you know, we heard best

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<v Speaker 1>thing I ever had, and we loved that song, and

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<v Speaker 1>we found the piano instrumental and we were like, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, we don't have anything to do today, let's

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<v Speaker 1>do a cover. This is when you got to burn CDs.

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<v Speaker 1>So we burned the instrumental on the CD. I'm Chloe

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm happy. I'm thirteen years old, num eleven. It's glow.

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<v Speaker 1>We seeing best Thing I Never Had? And I remember

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<v Speaker 1>our older sister Sky. She sat by the try pod

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<v Speaker 1>with the camera and would press play on her toe

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<v Speaker 1>and we were sitting in front of the wall singing,

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<v Speaker 1>and we sing our hearts out for maybe like twenty takes.

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<v Speaker 1>Baby Colver called corn heyy Mo Baby Gold. They had

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<v Speaker 1>posted some videos before the two of them performed it

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<v Speaker 1>a talent show or a church or charity concert, but

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<v Speaker 1>their cover of Best Thing I Never Had that was

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<v Speaker 1>the first cover they recorded in their basement for their

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube channel, and they recorded even more cover songs by

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<v Speaker 1>Adele Rihanna, Katy Perry and Alicia Keys. She's just a

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<v Speaker 1>gull and She's on fire, kinda than a fantasy, higher

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<v Speaker 1>than high. We went on Ellen Show after we were

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<v Speaker 1>doing the covers, and I think that was the moment

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<v Speaker 1>we were like, Okay, I guess these covers are kind

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<v Speaker 1>of doing something for us. YEA, all right, who's who?

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<v Speaker 1>Well Shoe, I'm Hallie Chloe and Hally Yes, and you

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<v Speaker 1>are how old? I'm thirteen eleven? Okay? And you have

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<v Speaker 1>sung together for how long? Since Hallie was old enough, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I was. Fourn Halley was two, and we started singing

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<v Speaker 1>together and after that we just kept going and that

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of our segue and the door leading us

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<v Speaker 1>into greater opportunities with music. Not too long later, Chloe

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<v Speaker 1>and Hallie recorded a cover of Beyonce's Pretty Hurts stage

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<v Speaker 1>paget the Pain So I'm Gonna take the chrown not

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<v Speaker 1>falling down die. There was so much emotion and intensity

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<v Speaker 1>in that performance, especially for someone so young. Beyonce saw

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<v Speaker 1>it and shared it and the video went viral and

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<v Speaker 1>the rest is history. Shortly after seeing their cover video

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty Hurts, Beyonce actually signed Chloe and Hallie to her label.

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<v Speaker 1>How about that. I was the biggest Beyonce fan. The

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<v Speaker 1>very first role I went for and got was the

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<v Speaker 1>younger version of Beyonce and fighting temptations. So being able

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<v Speaker 1>to meet her and knowing that I loved her so much,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, Wow, so this is what a star

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<v Speaker 1>is supposed to look and be like. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>I got introduced to that at such a young and

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<v Speaker 1>early age. And I knew about Parkwood and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to be the first group sign. I always

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<v Speaker 1>said that. I always put that out. I'm a proud

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<v Speaker 1>member of the Bee Hive. So when the email came through,

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<v Speaker 1>I immediately knew the Parkwood seal and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's real, Like I knew it. And so the family

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<v Speaker 1>kind of always laughed at me because they're like, you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of manifested it. You did, you did, and you

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<v Speaker 1>keep manifesting things. I'm a firm believer in knowing that

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<v Speaker 1>there's no coincidences in life. I feel like everything is planned,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel like in a way, that was God

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<v Speaker 1>playing a funny joke on me, Like, Okay, you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to do this now, and then years later you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to meet her, be signed to her, and she's going

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<v Speaker 1>to guide you along your career and your path. And

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<v Speaker 1>so it's really funny how if you look back at

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<v Speaker 1>your life, you can see how things kind of how

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<v Speaker 1>they correlate and how they come together and connect. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>don't go away, we'll be right back with backstage pass

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<v Speaker 1>with me, Eric Vitro and my guest Chloe Bailey. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're back talking with Chloe. Now. I've always been impressed

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<v Speaker 1>with how her brain works when it comes to production,

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<v Speaker 1>so I wanted to talk to her about how that developed.

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<v Speaker 1>I love like legos, I love building things and piecing

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<v Speaker 1>things together, and I love math and science. Like before

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<v Speaker 1>I got homeschooled, I really loved school, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I got into production. And it's my favorite thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And people don't really know that until they like talk

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<v Speaker 1>to me and I'm posting more like making the beats

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<v Speaker 1>and everything. But yeah, it's kind of like my little

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<v Speaker 1>hidden secret. Sometimes I don't really know how to verbally

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<v Speaker 1>explain what I want, but I can play it and

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<v Speaker 1>I could piece it together, and I'm like, here, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what this is? It? You know, it's funny you're

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<v Speaker 1>saying that how much you love it, because I notice

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<v Speaker 1>when you talk about producing, Yeah, just totally light up.

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<v Speaker 1>So I get that. I think it is so strong

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<v Speaker 1>and incredible seeing a woman produce. And it's such a

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<v Speaker 1>male dominated industry, and there are great female producers, but

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of them aren't getting the shine and the

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<v Speaker 1>recognition that they deserve. And like, I've grown up loving

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<v Speaker 1>Missy Elliott and Imogene Heap and Grimes and Merrill garbage

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<v Speaker 1>of tune yards and buyork and seeing how these women

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<v Speaker 1>literally create masterpieces out of nothing has been so inspiring

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<v Speaker 1>to me, and it gets like my heart and fire

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<v Speaker 1>lights in my belly. So let me ask you this

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<v Speaker 1>because a lot of times when I hear interviews with people,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll say who inspired you, And sometimes it's a similar

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<v Speaker 1>group of people, the greats, But I always want to know,

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<v Speaker 1>well why, Like, for example, you mentioned like three or

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<v Speaker 1>four women right there, like maybe Missy Elliott, Like what

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<v Speaker 1>was it about her, her persona, the tone of her voice,

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<v Speaker 1>how she delivered the performance, like what was it? Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>it was knowing how she held her own when it

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<v Speaker 1>came to production, and how she made a name for

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<v Speaker 1>herself when it came to originality. Like I'm the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine fan, and just even listening to the instrumentals that

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine would put out with her albums, because she would

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<v Speaker 1>put a separate thing out and I would just listen

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<v Speaker 1>to it. I'm like, wow, how does she piece this together?

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<v Speaker 1>How does she piece that together? And I think just

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<v Speaker 1>seeing how these women were incredible artists and stars, but

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<v Speaker 1>they were also involved in every piece behind the scenes.

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<v Speaker 1>And no one can tell your story as great as

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<v Speaker 1>you can. And I admire great performers and artists who

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<v Speaker 1>do have a huge team behind them, because that's beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>and you still have to have that it factor to

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<v Speaker 1>be successful. But something about an artist who can do

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<v Speaker 1>it all has excited me and that's what I have

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to become. Now, what about those women that you

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<v Speaker 1>were mentioned, what about any of their voices? Is there

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<v Speaker 1>something that triggered you? Yeah, Merrill Garbas has like the coolest,

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<v Speaker 1>quirkiest tone, and she belts all the time that I lose.

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<v Speaker 1>She kind of got me into wanting to do like

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<v Speaker 1>the weird clashing harmonies, the one that's like going against

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<v Speaker 1>the grain and really feeling left of sinner. So she

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<v Speaker 1>really inspired me. And how she lay at her vocals

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<v Speaker 1>and same with Imagine heap and how she did the harmonizer,

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<v Speaker 1>and like I would just stare at her live performances,

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<v Speaker 1>even when she did the gloves. And I was so

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<v Speaker 1>happy when Ariana Grande kind of commercialized it more in

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<v Speaker 1>a way and put more light on it because not

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<v Speaker 1>too many people know about Imagine and the star that

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<v Speaker 1>she is, so Ariana loved her. Yeah, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>Ari's the coolest for doing that. It am me so

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<v Speaker 1>freaking happy. I love the layers and that really opened

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<v Speaker 1>up my mind to vocal production and how I layer

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<v Speaker 1>my vocals and you know, with Hallie and I and

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<v Speaker 1>how will like piece things together. Well, speaking of strong

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<v Speaker 1>powerful women, you recently did a song by another iconic,

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<v Speaker 1>strong powerful artist, Yes, Nina Simone. Yes. So it was

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<v Speaker 1>a part of this project that I did, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was all of these other incredible black artists and they

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<v Speaker 1>did their own interpretation of other songs. The song was

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<v Speaker 1>Feeling Good, which was recorded for Music for the Movement

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<v Speaker 1>Volume three, an album released to celebrate Juneteenth. I've always

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<v Speaker 1>been the biggest Nina Simone fan. She is so unapologetically

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<v Speaker 1>herself and so strong, and now she owns herself and

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<v Speaker 1>who she is, and you know, she really doesn't give

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<v Speaker 1>a crap about what anyone has to say. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I felt that that song really resonated with me, even

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<v Speaker 1>now more than ever, because I'm coming into my own

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<v Speaker 1>I'm finding who i am, I'm learning to feel comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>in that, and I'm feeling freaking good. And that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I chose that song. And I was in my room

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<v Speaker 1>and I came up with that arrangement. I started it

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<v Speaker 1>and it was really just my harmonies and claps, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I started adding the drums and the instrumentation to

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<v Speaker 1>it like the next day, Like I specifically followed the

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<v Speaker 1>strings that was in her version and did that with

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<v Speaker 1>my voice. So that was really fun to do. It

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<v Speaker 1>felt like another puzzle piece, and I was honestly really

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<v Speaker 1>happy with how it turned out. It feels like alternative

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<v Speaker 1>and like dark and really fun. When she performed the

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<v Speaker 1>song for ABC's juneteenth celebration, Chloe sang completely alone on stage.

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<v Speaker 1>She was silhouetted against a bright full moon. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>her singing and dancing with the music. I love performing

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<v Speaker 1>that song and I love miss Nina Simone so much,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was just more than honored to do it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think she would absolutely be thrilled with that performance.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, first of all, I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people really came away from is your range is so

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly wide. They I mean, you go so low and

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<v Speaker 1>then you go so high that I mean, you really

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<v Speaker 1>we get everything and that Eric, I'm really grateful for

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<v Speaker 1>you because you've kind of removed those blocks that I've

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<v Speaker 1>had on myself mentally when it comes to my voice,

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<v Speaker 1>and it makes me happen when people think I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>great singer. I'm like, what, It's honestly still surprising to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why she would find that so surprising,

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<v Speaker 1>but anyway, another great quality Chloe has is she really

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<v Speaker 1>listens to advice. And right here, I'm kind of talking

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<v Speaker 1>about my advice. All of the vocal products you told

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<v Speaker 1>me to get, I was like taking them days before.

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<v Speaker 1>And remember the humidifier you told me about, because it

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<v Speaker 1>gets so dry in LA. When I don't have that

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<v Speaker 1>humidifier on, I can't really sing the best right. And

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<v Speaker 1>so all of the tips and tricks you told me

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<v Speaker 1>about I applied and I think that really helped me.

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<v Speaker 1>And even when we were working on it and how

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<v Speaker 1>to connect with the certain words and just make it

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<v Speaker 1>feel and not really be in my head about how

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<v Speaker 1>I sound, just more about hot feels. That really helped me.

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<v Speaker 1>When we did that together, we get that listening to you,

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<v Speaker 1>like we feel what you're feeling, which is so extraordinary

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<v Speaker 1>about it. And I love that you kind of take

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<v Speaker 1>us on such a journey because it does go so low,

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<v Speaker 1>like feeling good. You kind of think of that expression

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<v Speaker 1>that someone would say, I'm feeling really good, yeah high yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you took it so low that was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm feeling this expression in this thought in such a

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<v Speaker 1>different way. Don't And then it did just climactically get

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<v Speaker 1>higher and higher. I think it really came when I

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<v Speaker 1>was producing the song and I just wanted to feel

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<v Speaker 1>like there was a constant build. I wanted to feel

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<v Speaker 1>like a roller coaster and I'm learning that I do

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<v Speaker 1>have a deep tone and I'm like, I should use

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<v Speaker 1>it more. Why not? It wasn't really strategic in my

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<v Speaker 1>mind when I did. I was just like, let's start

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<v Speaker 1>really low and then as it builds, we'll just like

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<v Speaker 1>ramp it up, ramp it up, wrap it up, because

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<v Speaker 1>I love roller coasters and that's how I wanted it

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<v Speaker 1>to feel. That's great. I love that. Well you achieved it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, you achieved it. The fact that Chloe performed

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<v Speaker 1>Feeling Good without any backup dances or any special lighting

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<v Speaker 1>or added effects was amazing to me. It was a conscious,

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<v Speaker 1>specific decision to do that because I feel like the

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<v Speaker 1>best person to perform with for me is my sister,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think for the first time, no one could

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<v Speaker 1>really live up to the best person I could perform with.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, you know what, let me just

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<v Speaker 1>be out there and be me. Yeah, I don't need dancers,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need a band behind me. Let me just

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<v Speaker 1>keep it simple, let me be completely and unapologetically myself.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what I wanted to do. Yeah, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>call it simple. Yes, I don't know many people who

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<v Speaker 1>could do that. I still have scars on my knees

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<v Speaker 1>from that, yes, because it was sequence and usually in rehearsal,

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<v Speaker 1>I had my knee pads, but there were sequence all

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<v Speaker 1>on my knees and so I was bleeding after that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, you're kidding. Yep. They were like these

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<v Speaker 1>nasty scabs on my knees, but now it's just like

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<v Speaker 1>lighter scars on my knees. Now, when you were doing it,

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<v Speaker 1>did you know that was happening or were you selling

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<v Speaker 1>them all pain? All the pain? Because I rehearsed before

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<v Speaker 1>I started filming it, and I felt the pain. I

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<v Speaker 1>knew shoot, and it was like okay, But when my

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<v Speaker 1>adrenaline kicks in, I kind of forget about everything else

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<v Speaker 1>and I just get lost in the music. So after it,

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<v Speaker 1>when I saw how red and purple my knees were,

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<v Speaker 1>I went, oh boy. Note to aspiring performers sometimes you

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<v Speaker 1>have to suffer for your art. I didn't see any

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<v Speaker 1>of it on your face, so thank you. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>I was wondering about that. Yeah. Wow, just watching you

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<v Speaker 1>do that was incredible. I remember it like I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to hear it again. I got so focused on watching

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<v Speaker 1>you moved that I was like, Oh, I have to

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<v Speaker 1>hear the voice again, Like I have to go back

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<v Speaker 1>and listen again because I really want to pay all

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<v Speaker 1>attention to the voice this time. Yes, thank you. So

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<v Speaker 1>you are working on a solo album, which I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>excited about. Thank you. So let's talk about that. Does

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<v Speaker 1>that feel very different from everything you've done with Hallie

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<v Speaker 1>or is it just like another part of you, an extension. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little bit of both. So my sister was

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<v Speaker 1>in London killing it be an Ariel and Little Mermaid,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know me, I have all this music still

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<v Speaker 1>bubbling inside of me. So I didn't feel right really

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<v Speaker 1>halting my creativity. And you know, I was creating songs

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<v Speaker 1>from my album, even some that will be on my

0:23:23.436 --> 0:23:26.996
<v Speaker 1>sister and I's next album. And this is the most

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<v Speaker 1>inspired and excited I have felt. And I really love

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<v Speaker 1>to perform and dance, and I wanted to make music

0:23:35.356 --> 0:23:38.516
<v Speaker 1>that I can really fully perform and dance too. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking a lot of ish on the record, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really expressing myself and it feels really fun and

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait for everyone to hear it. I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>really proud of it. Wow, I can't wait. Would you

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<v Speaker 1>say the style is different from what you and Hallie do?

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<v Speaker 1>It definitely is different. As much as we are the same,

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<v Speaker 1>we are completely different. We have different music taste. My

0:24:01.796 --> 0:24:04.996
<v Speaker 1>sister's a jazz head. Me I love like alternative. I've

0:24:04.996 --> 0:24:07.276
<v Speaker 1>been such a huge down a summer fan. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>doing a lot more pop and like different things that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of really make me want to dance and move

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<v Speaker 1>and just jump out of my chest. And what I

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<v Speaker 1>love about my sister and I is how strong we

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<v Speaker 1>are together but also as individuals, like she is such

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<v Speaker 1>a powerhouse on her own as well as I am.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's been it's me. The project is me. It's

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<v Speaker 1>everything that I feel, all of my thoughts. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>me completely, So I feel really free creating and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really happy with it. Stay right there. Right after this,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll have our vocal Tip of the Week and more

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<v Speaker 1>from Chloe Bailey, let's do our vocal tip of the week.

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<v Speaker 1>In this episode, we also talked about the car engine

0:24:59.436 --> 0:25:03.196
<v Speaker 1>starting up exercise. It's a great exercise to strengthen your

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<v Speaker 1>breathing muscles, strengthen your voice, and also to loosen you

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<v Speaker 1>up and release those notes. Basically, you're making a sound

0:25:10.076 --> 0:25:12.556
<v Speaker 1>like an old card that is having trouble getting started.

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<v Speaker 1>Try it, making sure you use your breathing muscles to

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<v Speaker 1>create the sound. Also make sure the sound is being

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<v Speaker 1>created up front in your mouth, not in the back

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<v Speaker 1>of your throat. If you're having trouble getting it out

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<v Speaker 1>of the back of your throat, try adding in a

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<v Speaker 1>M before you start, like this M. It should feel good.

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<v Speaker 1>If it doesn't, you're doing it incorrectly. Then try it

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<v Speaker 1>on a simple melody like this bases baritones in tenners.

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<v Speaker 1>Start on a sea below middle c. Then stretch your

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<v Speaker 1>range by transposing down and then back up by half

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<v Speaker 1>steps like this. Eltos and sopranos. You could start right

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<v Speaker 1>here on a middle cea keep going higher by half

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<v Speaker 1>steps until you reach the highest note you can comfortably.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't overdo it or make it too louder, too heavy,

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<v Speaker 1>just a little bit goes a long way. If you

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<v Speaker 1>want to share yourself doing the car engine exercise, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>love to hear you. Use the hashtag Backstage Pass pod

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter, Instagram, TikTok or wherever you like to post.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to see your videos. I'll see you

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<v Speaker 1>next week. Maybe maybe maybe maybe. Backstage Pass with Eric

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<v Speaker 1>Vitro is written and hosted by me Eric Vitro and

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<v Speaker 1>produced by Mortgage. Daffy. Katherine Girardou is our showrunner, Emily

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<v Speaker 1>Rostek as our associate producer. The show is mixed and

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<v Speaker 1>mastered by Ben Tolliday. Additional engineering help is from Jacob

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<v Speaker 1>Gorski Mia Lobell as our executive producer. Our development team LEETL.

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<v Speaker 1>Mullad and Justine Lange helped create the show, thanks also

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<v Speaker 1>to Jacob Weisberg, Heather Fame, John Schnarz, Carl Migliori, Christina Sullivan,

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Sandler, Maggie Taylor, Nicole Morano, Daniel o'lakan, and Royston Basserve.

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<v Speaker 1>The original theme music is by Jacob and Cita Steele

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<v Speaker 1>for Premier Music Group. We record at Resonates Studios. Fred

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<v Speaker 1>Talson does our videography and the photography is by Ken Sawyer.

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<v Speaker 1>A very special thanks to Michael Lewis for his inspiration

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<v Speaker 1>and the best guidance anyone could ask for. Backstage passed

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have any rituals that you do before you

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<v Speaker 1>get on stage? I pray, oh, I drink lots of tea,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll yes, throatcoat, I'll warm not hot. Yes, yes, you

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<v Speaker 1>taught me. And I used to burn my tongue no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>not good. Yeah you told me about that and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh wow, warm nah. And I'll take a

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<v Speaker 1>spoonful of honey. And now I have my Manuka honey

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<v Speaker 1>packets and those have been amazing. But yeah, I pray,

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<v Speaker 1>I stretch, and I calm down because I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 1>rehearse my butt off. There's nothing much I can do

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<v Speaker 1>or change right now. Just breathe and let the music

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<v Speaker 1>take control, and you'll be fine.