WEBVTT - Some Time With... Darin Barber! (Part 1) 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:21.880 Hey, Fana Ritos, Welcome back to an all new episode 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:25.880 of How Rude Tanner Ritos. We have a very special 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:29.639 guest today. He has literally known me since birth and 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:32.800 has stuck by my side ever since, whether he's wanted 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:38.600 to or not. It's my big brother, Darren Barber who. 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:42.040 Darren has so many memories to share from our childhood years, 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:45.440 spending hours in the back of mom's station wagon as 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:48.960 she drove us to auditions every afternoon after school. He'll 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:50.880 tell us what it was like having a famous sister, 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:53.559 what it was like being in the audience for them. 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:56.000 He has a famous sister, Yeah, I know, I can't 0:00:56.000 --> 0:01:00.520 wait to find out who it is. No, gonna tell 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:02.080 us all about what it was like being in the 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:06.080 audience for that iconic telethon episode which he didn't know 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:09.479 he was getting into, yes, and how he came up 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:14.560 with the idea for Funeral Files. Originator of Funeral Files 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:17.840 my favorite. Plus lucky for me, he has all of 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:21.720 the embarrassing stories that only a brother would know. Jody, 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:23.919 You're in for a real treat with this one today, 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:27.840 and so well, he's he's very excited to meet Jensen 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:29.120 if Jensen ever shows up. 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:33.120 I heard Jensen and that's for one Daan, that's from. 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:36.880 His days k Rock, right, yeah, yeah, the Kevin Bean Show. 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:41.240 Yeah, I also loved Kevin and Bean. But like I 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:42.640 didn't even think about the fact. 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:43.120 That it's Jensen. 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:46.160 But when I told Darren, I'm like, hey, I'm starting 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:47.480 a new podcast with Jody. 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:48.960 We're doing you know how rude. 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:52.800 It's full House rewatch the first thing he said, Jensen 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:57.400 carp is producing, doesn't give a rip about Danielle, doesn't 0:01:57.440 --> 0:01:59.520 give a rip you know me or full House. 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:00.760 He knows us. 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:05.480 He's smart, you know, he's like anyway you guys big news. 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:09.280 Yeah, He's like, wow, Jensen, that's so cool. And I'm like, 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:09.960 oh my god. 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:14.640 I mean, Jensen is cool. He finds obscure T shirts. 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:18.240 He I feel like he rocks a really good like 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:19.919 shoe game, you know what I mean. 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:22.600 Like he's just he's that he's that cool kid. 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:25.040 Yeah, he's he's a cool He's a mixed bag. 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:28.280 I feel like he might almost be like one like 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:34.239 a lost uh uh forgotten member of the Beastie Boys, right, 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:36.400 you know what I mean, Like, like I. 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:38.840 Feel like as they all ate like age, that you'd 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:40.280 be like yeah, I could see. Yeah, you could have. 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:42.680 I could see that totally, totally. 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:45.440 I feel like Jensen could have his own booth at 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:50.040 comic Con and make out really well, just right, just right. 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:53.080 Just out of his T shirts alone, you know what 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:55.960 I mean. He'd be like, you're not gonna believe what 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:59.200 I found? Yeah, oh perfect, Yeah, let him in. 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:03.280 It's grow I'm not Barber today on how Rude Tannerito's please. 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:05.920 Welcome to the podcast, my brother, Darren. 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:10.079 I realized I had to hit okay before I could 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:12.079 do my normal audio and video. 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:13.400 I kept hitting it. 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:15.880 And suddenly I'm an old and then it's like, oh, 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:17.960 I have to hit okay, I'm being recorded. 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:21.640 Great, Oh I just saw who joined? 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:27.400 Uh, where's my three Jensen? I don't need this. I 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:30.600 don't need to see your senior portrait? Where's my three bills? 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:32.840 I was very Armenian in that picture. 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:38.520 All right, Darren, meet Jensen Jensen, meet your number one fan, Arren. 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:41.960 Nice to meet you. We have a very small niche audience. 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:44.120 You hear your top of the niche audience. 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:51.119 Yeah, yeah, I'm trying to get my Patty lapel Ino. 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:54.360 Oh there you go, there's which Patty lapel. Are you 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:57.960 wearing today, baby dead lasso? Of course? 0:03:58.080 --> 0:03:58.920 What two of them? 0:03:59.720 --> 0:03:59.920 Hi? You? 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:02.360 One for one for me and one for Roger. 0:04:03.760 --> 0:04:06.600 I'm significantly disappointed, giving the amount of coin I spent 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:09.480 on this, that Jensen doesn't remember our first meeting, of 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:12.960 which I provided photographic evidence to you Andrea at the 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:14.280 slide bar for a. 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:17.120 Quick oh yes, yes yes for Kevin Bean, yes yes, yes, yes, yes, 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:18.320 yeah yeah. 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:20.400 Jensen talks about it all the time. 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:24.520 I'm making them the pelpin of us together. 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:25.960 You should. 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:28.640 I'm sure it'll be a big seller if you include 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:31.640 my mug in it, so we'll be arm in an arm. 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:34.640 Wait, but why does he why does he owe you 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:35.520 three hundred dollars? 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:36.960 What's you have to tell that story? 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:37.240 Now? 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:39.640 Jensen can? Jensen can tell you the joke. 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:41.880 Kanye is Well, it's not a joke. It's real. Kanye. 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:45.000 Kanye West owes me three hundred dollars. You can look 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:48.599 at that story. Yeah, I rented him a car once 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:50.359 we were we were close friends. I wrote a book 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:53.200 and there's a full chapter about how we were friends 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:55.520 and I loaned him money and then I didn't want 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:57.000 the money back. But he was like one of those 0:04:57.040 --> 0:05:00.599 people who like like would text me, I'll get it 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:01.960 to you, and I'd be like, don't worry about it. 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:05.599 You're like, well now I kind of want it, like 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:11.400 it's it's and like I forgot yeah, now I need it, 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:15.760 and and so he uh he and I stopped talking. 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:19.880 And then when I wrote the book, I was in 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:23.880 an office pitching a TV show and they were talking 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:25.800 about my book and they said, you know, he's next 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:29.200 door and I said, who's next door? And they said 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:33.359 Kanye's next door and I said oh, and my book 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:34.640 was like coming out in a few months, and they 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:36.600 were like, we can go talk to him about it. 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:39.599 And I was like, no, like, don't do that. That 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:42.720 could ruin everything. And they were like well, and they 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:44.520 were like yeah, but what if he like promotes the book? 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:46.440 And I was like right, And I let them convince me, 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:51.280 which is stupid, that like, oh, he'll help, which he won't. 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:54.640 He's terrible, he's insane, he's not the same person as 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:58.120 when we were actually friends. He's just And so I 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:00.600 let them convince me. Not I was never going to 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:02.000 go over there, but they were like, we'll talk to 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:04.680 him when you leave and then we'll call you and 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:07.839 I said great, and so I leave and it's like 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:09.440 a big deal to me. So I'm like waiting by 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:11.400 the phone and hours passed and I was like, what 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:14.200 the fuck? And so I call them and I go 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:15.800 what happened? And they go, oh, no, what it went 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:18.600 really bad? And I was like, yeah, no, shit, Like 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:21.239 he you know, she said, he wishes you the best, 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:24.240 but he's happy to hear you're okay, but he like 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:26.640 doesn't want anything to do with it. And I said okay. 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:29.760 And then I looked down at Twitter, which was like 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:33.240 a big deal then, and he had tweeted, like twenty 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:36.760 minutes after I left. He tweeted, uh, don't ever use 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:42.120 my name for your marketing campaigns. Wow. 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:44.400 I mean, I'm sure he doesn't want to use his 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:46.279 name for marketing campaigns these days either. 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:51.599 Nobody made us was this? That was? 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:51.160 This was? 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:54.120 This was a long time ago. But the book is 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:56.080 called Kanye westws Me three hundred Dollars, but it's only 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:59.040 one chapter. It's like there's many there's many stories. One 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:01.440 of them is that and it's it's the clickbaity title 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:02.120 right right. 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:04.680 I was I was hoping you look like just went 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:07.440 full say anything style with Rihanna's better have my money 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:10.000 into the conference room that he was sitting in, because 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:11.520 that would have been pretty epic as well. 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:14.000 I was tempting, but also I was so nervous he 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:16.240 could like put an injuncture even if it's real. He 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:18.320 knows me right, right, right right, so nervous that he 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:19.960 could like ruin the title. And I was like, oh no, 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:22.680 what are we doing? And he can't. I checked a 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:25.200 thousand lawyers because he does owe me three hundred dollars 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:28.040 that it's totally allowed, right, we one a. 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:31.080 Ten percent interest that's probably worth about four hundred and 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:33.720 fifty bucks now, So I mean that's probably pretty cool. 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:35.640 I'm app to that because I would have said three 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:38.280 hundred and thirty dollars, so I just ten percent. I 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:39.520 would have just put ten percent on it. 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:41.800 Sorry, it's per anim So every year we got it. 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:45.760 Yearly understood, you know how you know how lawyers work? 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:48.040 You know, well, are you guys going to be is 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:50.640 the guy's just about me? I'm nervous, it's just about me. 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:53.880 This is this is a better podcast. Jody and Andrew 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:55.880 are going to agree that this is the better version 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:56.200 of it. 0:07:56.840 --> 0:08:01.080 Oh just wait, Darren, you fulfill Darren's stream because I 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:04.280 was just telling Jodie before we started recording, I said, 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:06.480 when I announced, and I told Darren, I said, hey, 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:09.480 I'm doing a new podcast for iHeartRadio. Uh, the full 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:12.440 House re rewatch podcasts with Jody. I'm really excited. You know, 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:14.960 Daniel Fisher and Jensen Carp were producing, and Darren's like, 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:18.440 Jensen Carp, you get to work with Jensen car doesn't 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:20.640 give her about Danielle or. 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:24.120 No, He's like, I've seen you guys, it's not impressive. 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:27.360 Yeah, but Jensa you get to work with Pete best 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:30.120 of the Beatles, right right. This is like. 0:08:30.640 --> 0:08:34.240 Literally I'm the only person that likes Jensen more than 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:37.319 his wife and the couple, the celebrity couple that they are. 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:40.640 I mean, Danielle is wonderful. 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:45.520 But but she's no Jensen Carp, you know what I mean. 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:47.920 And I loved him on Kevin Bean and that's when 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:52.040 I really just delved into the quirkiness and and the 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:55.280 stories and I just it just hit me. It's just funny. 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:58.120 I love it, and answered incredibly creative and talented. 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:03.559 So you know, well this show so yeah, and I've 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:07.120 enjoyed working with Andrew and Jody, and it's been, uh, 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:11.600 you know, really rewarding in a weird way because Danielle 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:12.800 and I have been working on kind of doing the 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:15.360 spin off show, and it's we've talked about what it's 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:18.280 meant to us a lot, and and it's just crazy 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:23.640 to like redefine these stories from people who were child stars. 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:27.079 It's like, like to have the final word, I think 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:32.880 has been has been really meaningful to us. I mean, 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:34.960 you know the fact that like the final word won't 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:37.560 be from fifty year old white dudes who put the 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:39.200 words in their mouth. Now they get to put words 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:41.760 in their own mouth. And it's pretty amazing. 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:45.840 Yeah, it's great, absolutely great. All Right, so Jody's coming 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:47.559 for me. I guess I'll just have to deal with it. 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:51.480 No, no, no, I'm just I'm just so excited to 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:56.520 be here, uh in support of ab potentially being roasted 0:09:56.600 --> 0:09:58.280 at some point in this show. 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:03.040 All right, well my my pronounce in the box. 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:05.320 That's there. You go. 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:09.840 You have a good show. Don't think of me ever again. 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:13.640 Wait am I? Andrew said you may be popping in 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:15.840 with notes or something. Is there some screen I'm supposed 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:16.920 to also be looking at. 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:20.320 No, you're good. You're good. That's just no. We don't 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:21.520 want you to see those notes. 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:23.400 We don't even exist. 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:27.600 Normany is not even usually here. 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:34.120 I said that security clericy. 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:37.160 Al Right, goodbye friends. 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:42.439 Thanks, that was amazing, dream fulfilled. 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:45.400 Right, it's so great. Right, and now Jensen owes me 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:46.199 three hundred dollars. 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:56.319 So there you go. Well, I knew you would get 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:58.079 the joke when I texted at the Annie. I'm like, 0:10:58.360 --> 0:10:59.640 he'll know what I'm talking about. 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:06.040 Hold on, we just you call her Annie. 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:06.920 I do call her Annie. 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:09.640 Yeah, I have heard you call her that, but I 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:12.679 just need our audience because I call her a B. 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:17.120 Okay, and he calls you Annie. I like it. 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:21.760 The Barber family proper calls me Annie since I was 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:24.560 a little child. But then my full house family and 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:28.280 close friends call me AB. But now our whole audience 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:29.920 that's listening right now, they all call me a B 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:33.000 now too. So right, okay, god, AB is more ubiquitous, 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:35.320 but Annie is reserved for. 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:39.000 That's how you that's right, right, So don't just audience, 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:40.160 don't be calling her Annie. 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:42.240 We're not at that level. 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:45.640 And text messages some to you know, we sometimes revert 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:48.280 to a B and stuff. But I mean historically, even 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:51.360 before Andrew was born, the middle child for whom will 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:54.400 not speak of, he goes by JB and so, and 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:57.800 he was JB his entire life, so you know, everybody 0:11:58.120 --> 0:11:59.960 I was only won without a nickname. It was Darren, 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:02.720 JB and Annie. That's just kind of how the family rolled. 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:04.240 So it just stuck. 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:07.240 Well, I feel like you're D Barbs. 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:08.880 But with the little D you know what I mean, 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:12.120 there's like there's the D Barbs and then there's like 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:14.640 the the like the lower kid, you know what I mean, 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:16.480 Like you you're you can't. 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:19.360 Usurp the king. But yeah, okay, yeah, you know what 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:19.640 I mean. 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:21.800 She has a different view like of D Barbs. Like 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:25.440 I told her, you know, you're not. There's there's hints 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:27.800 of there's hints of Dad in you, and it's coming 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:29.840 out like each year a little bit more. The gene 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:32.040 is active, as we say, and it's coming out a 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:32.600 little bit more. 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:34.880 But no, I'm like, he is not. He's not D Barbs. 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:35.199 He's not. 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:38.319 No, no, no, I mean I think D Barbes was born 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:43.160 after that. The picture of him getting off of that 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:47.680 helicopter in Katalina looking like President I would have voted 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:48.040 for him. 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:50.760 I wish, I wish that was an option, but. 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:54.160 I yeah, it was pretty epic. So that's my like, 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:57.800 I have a very uh extraordinary version in my head. 0:12:58.200 --> 0:13:00.280 Okay, well, I don't know how much gets said and 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:02.319 how much doesn't, but I don't want Jody talking about 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:05.280 my little d So I'm not sure what your demo 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:08.560 is actual monologue, and I'm like, I. 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:13.640 Look, that's not anyway continued. 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:16.520 It's gonna be a good little sparring session between the 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:17.200 three of us. 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:19.559 Oh, it's not gonna be sparring. We're going to gang 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:21.040 up on you. Don't don't worry about that. 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:27.320 Great great Darren understands the assigned more than he should. 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:30.640 Actually, Well, Darren, I'm so excited to have you on 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:32.960 the show today. I know you're super busy, so thank 0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:36.559 you so much for carving out time. I'm really excited 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:41.360 and nervous about what you're gonna say today. Me too, No, 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:45.280 I mostly I am also really excited because I want to 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:49.160 talk about like the whole genesis of how we became 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:51.760 child actors, because I don't think a lot of people 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:54.320 know that you and our other brother, Justin, we were 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:57.200 all child actors at the same time with Judy Savage. 0:13:57.600 --> 0:13:59.960 And I was five at the time you were twelve, 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:03.440 and so I don't have like firm memories of that 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:05.920 time in my life, and I'm hoping you have a 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:10.319 few more. So, yeah, what do you remember about how 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:13.199 we got started in acting and how we met Judy Savage? 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:20.600 And Judy is a legendary young people's agent in Hollywood 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:24.280 in like the eighties and nineties and still a wonderful, dear, 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:26.120 flamboyantly awesome lady. 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:28.080 So anyway, I love her dearly. 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:33.560 I yeah, she has changed my life and obviously everybody 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:35.920 here and I can't say enough good things about her. 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:38.480 And yeah, I have I have. 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:43.080 A firm recollection of it, fortunately and unfortunately, so I'll 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:44.800 share that, and it's a lot of it is very 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:49.160 eighties ask which is good for nostalgia, but also we've 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:52.800 come a long way in the evolution of things that 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:54.720 we do and don't do in this country now. So 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:58.200 I can tell you what happened was our family did 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:01.720 a lot of regional theater. Our mom was a really 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:04.640 talented actress and stuff, and so she would be in 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:06.680 a variety of plays and then if there were kids 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:10.240 in the plays, we would audition and inevitably get cast. 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:16.560 And so, ironically enough, there was a show playing locally 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:19.440 called The King and I, and the three of Us auditions, 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:22.640 so you can imagine two pasty, white, blonde haired, blue 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:26.680 eyed boys trying to play Siamese kids and Andrea all 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:30.720 auditioning for The King and I. And of course, as 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:35.000 is foreshadowing of this entire episode, Andrea gets cast in 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:38.760 the production and Justin and I do not. And it's 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:42.080 like okay, because yeah, they decide they can spray paint 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:45.240 her hair black and I guess you had some you know, 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:49.200 melotonin on your face enough to not look as ghostly 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:52.640 as we did. And so she was cast as the 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:57.920 youngest Siamese princess in the production. And there, you know, 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:00.640 it gets noticed, even though there's forty kids on stage. 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:03.800 Andrew gets noticed, one because she's the youngest. And two 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:06.360 there's a scene where they're running and I just remember 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:08.800 someone kind of picking her up and grabbing her by 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:11.800 the arm and she like flung almost you know, horizontally, 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:13.360 five feet. 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:14.359 As they made a turn. 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:18.480 And I was five. 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:19.160 Yeah. 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:22.680 That spurred a phone call from a talent manager who 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:25.920 shall remain nameless for this production, and he called to 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:29.080 ask about representing Andrea and asked who I was, and 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:30.640 I explained I was her older brother. 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:32.320 You know, Oh, there any more kids. 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:34.680 In the in the family, Yeah, we have another one, 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:36.600 and I'd like to meet with the three of you 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:41.360 and see about representing you for show business. So that 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:44.200 that was what started the whole part of it, and 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:47.960 met with him. He decided to sign the three of 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:51.440 us up and introduced us to Judy, who was more 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:55.720 largely influential. And everything that happened thereafter. And the reason 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:59.320 I'm being a bit vague about the manager is unfortunately, 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:01.520 you know, it turned out later that he was a 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:06.000 pedophile and was you know, in the business to find 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:09.080 kids and victims and stuff. And thankfully none of the 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:11.919 three of us were victimized. But and Judy played the 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:16.560 largest role in everything pretty much thereafter. So that's how we, 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:18.680 you know, stumbled into show business. 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:20.159 Was Andrea being. 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:23.840 A Siamese kid and me answering the phone when some 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:24.919 random guy called. 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:30.240 And that's not a story of success. I don't know 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:31.280 what is, you know. 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:34.240 Yeah, I mean it's not being at what was at 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:36.600 Sardi's in Hollywood and getting walked up to by a 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:38.880 talent agent. But you know, it's kind of the child. 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:41.920 Equivalent of yeah, yeah, for sure, how did you stumble 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:45.080 into this whole business? So that's that's where it all started. 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:47.159 And we didn't know what we were getting into, and 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:49.359 mom and dad didn't know what we were like. It 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:52.200 was just like, hey, this sounds interesting, let's give it 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:54.440 a try. It was not like we had dreams of 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:56.920 being Hollywood stars or anything like that. 0:17:57.000 --> 0:17:57.320 This was. 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:00.720 And my parents. Yeah, I was like, sure, this might 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:03.360 be fun. Why not give it a whirl. Let's give 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:05.160 it a shot, right, So yeah, and. 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:07.240 It started well, I mean, I think at first it 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:08.720 was kind of fun and stuff. You had to drive 0:18:08.760 --> 0:18:11.399 out to LA in different places, and we had to 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:14.040 learn how to read, you know, the Thomas Guide, which 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:15.800 for Thomas. 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:19.720 Guide should sponsor a portion of this show. Really we 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:20.439 mentioned it. 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:23.439 Before ways and Google maps and everything else. We actually 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:24.879 had paper and we had to read it. 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:27.000 We had we had a seven year old telling you 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:28.160 how to get along the freeway. 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:31.920 Yeah, so it got really adept at that, and you know, 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:34.080 I think at first it was fun for all of us, 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:36.960 and then it was after that it was fun for Andrea, 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:38.960 because Andrew had just. 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:42.120 Had this ability to just book jobs. 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:44.000 I mean, I don't think she went more than three 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:46.000 auditions without book and a job. You know, we'd go 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:48.040 out like, oh she got a park Butter commercial. 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:52.040 Oh she yes, I remember that one. 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:55.040 You know, and our parents beat wonderful. 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:58.160 We're trying to be, you know, really nice, like no, no, no, 0:18:58.400 --> 0:19:01.520 you you got a McDonald's commerce and that was your 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:02.520 twenty fifth audition. 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:05.560 And if you get a job out of every thirty. 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:09.280 That's successful in this business, and like matth doesn't resonate 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:11.840 with a twelve year old that's being rejected twenty four 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:14.720 out of twenty five times. It just feels like a 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:16.960 lot of wear and tear on your self esteem and 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:19.120 a lot of miles and time in the car trying 0:19:19.119 --> 0:19:21.760 to do homework to and from interest. 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:26.720 And that was that wasn't a comment on like yours 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:29.119 or Justin's acting ability. I think it's just because I 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:31.199 was a girl and so I was more marketable and 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:33.680 they were I mean, you know, I was a cute 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:36.760 kid with pigtails and you were, like you said, a pasty, white, 0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:38.720 really thin preteen. 0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:40.560 So I mean that had a lot right to do 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:41.320 with it as well. 0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:44.960