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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome back to the Hammer Territory podcast.

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Speaker 1: This episode two six nine. I'm your host, Brederi and

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Speaker 1: it's you on a Wednesday evening, and I'm joined, as

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Speaker 1: i often them, by Scott Coleman. Scott, you're back. You're

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Speaker 1: not sleeping still? How are you?

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Speaker 2: You know? Brad? I was just thinking about this. As

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Speaker 2: bad as this season has been for the Braves, we

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Speaker 2: only have nine games left for six months, seven months, yep.

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Speaker 2: And even when the Braves are dead in the water,

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Speaker 2: there's still just something special about turning on the TV

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Speaker 2: at night and watching the Braves play, even if they're

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Speaker 2: not playing for a whole lot. At this point, it's

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Speaker 2: sad and I think the realization that the season is over,

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Speaker 2: even if it was far from the season we were

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Speaker 2: hoping they were going to have. In another world, the

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Speaker 2: Braves would have swept the Nationals this week and we'd

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Speaker 2: be talking about playoff look ahead and who might they

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Speaker 2: play in the first round and can they get the

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Speaker 2: buy and all of those things, and of course that's

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Speaker 2: not what we're doing tonight. But yeah, man, I mean

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Speaker 2: ten days and nine games left in this season. It's

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Speaker 2: gone by fast, and I think there's always that moment

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Speaker 2: of like, wow, it is definitely over with before we

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Speaker 2: know it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it has come by fast, and it's a good

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Speaker 1: point that I hadn't thought about a ton today. But

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Speaker 1: it is getting late early for baseball, and you and

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Speaker 1: I like baseball, and we'll watch the playoffs, so like

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Speaker 1: they'll be baseball on still, but it won't be brave baseball,

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Speaker 1: so it's different. For sure. We'll get into what happened

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Speaker 1: today if anybody missed it, and I'm sure people did.

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Speaker 1: I talked to Steven on a show late, late late

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday evening post rain delayed doubleheader. That was a

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Speaker 1: late one, maybe a little bit of a delirious episto

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Speaker 1: of the podcast. But please subscribe to Amber Territory, listen

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Speaker 1: to that, check us out anywhere you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate the support, and we are here twelve months

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Speaker 1: a year, thirty two weeks a year covering the Braves

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Speaker 1: in this space. So check it out and tell your

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Speaker 1: friends about the show. But yeah, also, here's the weird

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Speaker 1: thing about it. We talked about the season being over.

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Speaker 1: The Braves are red hot. All of a sudden, They've

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Speaker 1: won five games in a row. They just swept the

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Speaker 1: Nationals on the road in a four game series. The

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Speaker 1: combined score of the four games was thirty one to ten.

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Speaker 1: So they not only swept the Nationals, they blasted the

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Speaker 1: Nationals in this series. And the Nationals are bad, so

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Speaker 1: that's worth keeping in mind. Doubleheader weirdness, afternoon getaway day

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Speaker 1: game today like not the most high intensity baseball series

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Speaker 1: you'll ever see in your life from fan interest standpoint

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Speaker 1: and all that. But I did mention it on the

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Speaker 1: show briefly yesterday with Steven, But the Braves are and

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Speaker 1: you talked about it on Twitter today too. This way

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Speaker 1: Street basically makes the Braves all but dead for like

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Speaker 1: the top two or three spots in the lottery. They

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Speaker 1: were like right there on the precipice of being in

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Speaker 1: competition with the Pirates for the number two spot in

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Speaker 1: the lottery. That is, that dream is not dead. They

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Speaker 1: can still win the lottery. I mean, they're gonna have

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Speaker 1: decent hods to do that. But if you are someone

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Speaker 1: who is a monetary in the Techathon page each and

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Speaker 1: every day, it's been a bad week for you, but

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Speaker 1: a positive week for the Braves. And I've seen a

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Speaker 1: lot of people talking about this and it's I think

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Speaker 1: it's fair. Like even last night we got some comments

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Speaker 1: it was like, well, I like when the Braves win,

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Speaker 1: and it's like, you know what, tough to argue, like

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Speaker 1: it is more fun when they win. Like the ViBe's

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Speaker 1: been pretty good this week, even if the games don't matter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I guess we'll do the quick tankthon update here.

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Speaker 2: The White Sox by far and away are going to

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Speaker 2: be the one, and the Pittsburgh Pirates, who are just

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Speaker 2: god awful. Like I have a good friend who's a

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Speaker 2: like sun shining rainbows for the Pittsburgh Pirates. And then

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Speaker 2: at the end of the day, short of the Braves

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Speaker 2: going nine to oh over the last week and a half,

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Speaker 2: which would be very on brand for this season, Brad,

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Speaker 2: like when they are truly dead, they go on like

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Speaker 2: Braves will have either the fourth or fifth best odds

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Speaker 2: it's a lottery system, so it's not like they're locked

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Speaker 2: picking sixth, or even picking one or two in the

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Speaker 2: MLB draft is generally not something that's gonna dramatically sway

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Speaker 2: the future of a team. Of course, we'd rather have

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Speaker 2: the highest pick possible get the most money possible for

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Speaker 2: the later rounds, but you know, something to keep an

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Speaker 2: I don't think anybody in Braves Country had as a

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Speaker 1: For sure, And I mean you said it. There is

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Speaker 1: a scenario where the Braves keep winning and they could

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Speaker 1: Today was the seventy seventieth win of the year for

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Speaker 1: the Braves, obviously not where they wanted to be, But

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Speaker 1: we were talking six weeks ago, probably about one hundred

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Speaker 1: like they were forty eight and sixty seven. I think

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Speaker 1: too much. It is on brand to have the season

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Speaker 1: two and sixteen over a six week span, which isn't

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Speaker 1: like twenty two and sixteen is a fifty eight percent

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Speaker 1: to say like they weren't as bad as like it

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Speaker 2: Well, and I know that run differential is not scientific.

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Speaker 2: but it's the general name of the game is nip

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Speaker 2: Brad score runs and don't give up runs, and score

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Speaker 2: more runs than your opponent. And we know how terrible

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Speaker 2: the Braves have been this year in one run games.

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Speaker 2: God knows, they have given away so many games. We

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Speaker 2: worst most frustrating losses of the year, But just for

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Speaker 2: probably gonna end seventy five seventy six, not bad by

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Speaker 2: a negative twenty five run differential and they are seventy

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Speaker 1: One game difference in the standards.

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Speaker 2: everything you need to know about this season. It's baseball,

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Speaker 2: And I think you have to say kind of like

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Speaker 2: They've been top five, almost went to the World Series

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Speaker 2: I think if you're trying to be optimistic with the Braves,

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Speaker 2: They had injuries everywhere. They could not win a close

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Speaker 2: and God willing, the Braves are going to be back

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Speaker 2: where they want to be with ninety plus wins and

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Speaker 1: World Series for sure, And you know you can't.

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Speaker 2: It is fun.

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Speaker 1: There's been a funnyest synergy with the Guardians having the

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Speaker 1: Brads have gotten very unlucky. And like the middle ground

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Speaker 1: It would have been a bad season, but they'd be like,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's five more wins. They're five years below that.

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Speaker 2: According to their run differential, they are expected win loss

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's more like what they've been. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking, I'm talking to make sure this is still true,

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Speaker 1: and I believe it still is only one team in

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Speaker 1: the Major leagues has a worse winning percentage in one

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Speaker 1: run games and it's the White Sox, and the White

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Speaker 1: Sox are horrendous, So they're not as bad as the Rockies, who,

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Speaker 1: this year. But yeah, the brids that come, they've been

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Speaker 1: they've been both frustrating and unlucky, underperforming and unlucky, whatever

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Speaker 1: over the last week or so. We'll get into the

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Speaker 1: game today in a moment. First, though, Scott, a word

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Speaker 1: All right, Scott, let's briefly discuss the game on Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: Not that anyone I think had real concerns. The Astros

432
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Speaker 2: are a good team. You got you were there, Stephen

433
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Speaker 2: was there. You talked about just some of the bad

434
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Speaker 2: luck and misfortune that Hurston had, but really encouraging a

435
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Speaker 2: ton of swing and miss a lot of strikeouts today,

436
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Speaker 2: and other than that fifth inning, he was pretty much

437
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Speaker 2: in control the whole way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, he still got unlucky with bad

439
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Speaker 1: bep I think the bepop bellow was like four to

440
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Speaker 1: twenty in the game. Like, he pitched well today. I

441
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Speaker 1: was encouraged by that. That still bounce back. And you know,

442
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Speaker 1: the season on numbers look good. The IRA of three ish,

443
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Speaker 1: fifth of three point two or so looks fine. And

444
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Speaker 1: I mentioned the walks. I always care about walks, but

445
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Speaker 1: he had eleven walks in his previous fifteen innings, so

446
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Speaker 1: I was getting a little worried about his command. And

447
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Speaker 1: then hey, you closed down that top real fast if

448
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Speaker 1: you don't walk anybody, and he didn't today.

449
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Speaker 2: So yeah, especially for a pitcher who the command was

450
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Speaker 2: like the thing for Hurston, like can he not only

451
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 2: through enough strikes, but through effective strikes establish his fastball

452
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Speaker 2: get hitters off like that? That's not a small thing

453
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Speaker 2: for a guy who had some real command and control

454
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Speaker 2: questions coming up through the minor leagues.

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Speaker 1: No. Absolutely, he Again, we talked about it last night,

456
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Speaker 1: but even in response to that, people were asking, you know,

457
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Speaker 1: maybe I don't accusing the right word. Like people think

458
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Speaker 1: that we're too low on him, that's fine. I thought

459
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Speaker 1: we were pretty complimentary of him last night. It wasn't

460
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Speaker 1: like we're saying he's not a factor. He definitely is.

461
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Speaker 1: It's just more that we got to see more and

462
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Speaker 1: there's a gap for me and there's a show we'll

463
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Speaker 1: probably do relatively soon about the state of the rotation

464
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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty six in probably deeper die fashion, But

465
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Speaker 1: he is part of the mix, Like without question, it

466
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Speaker 1: should surprise no one if he makes a start in

467
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Speaker 1: the first week of next season, which is a huge

468
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Speaker 1: credit to him. Again, like the rise of Walter been

469
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Speaker 1: in the last like two months is rather crazy. From

470
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Speaker 1: like people have probably forgot about this by now. The

471
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 1: guy literally had to drive himself to Bristol to make

472
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Speaker 1: an unsanctioned, unplanned It wasn't even start it was it

473
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Speaker 1: was actually a relief quote a relief appearances they had

474
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Speaker 1: started that game and had to restart it. But like

475
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Speaker 1: that was the start of the year for Walter but

476
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Speaker 1: at the major league level, and all positives from there

477
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Speaker 1: so encouraging today.

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Speaker 2: I mean just not today and the last however, long

479
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Speaker 2: since that start against the Reds in Bristol. It's just

480
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 2: been such a whirlwind for Walter and he was someone

481
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Speaker 2: a few months ago. I know you and Stephen talked

482
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Speaker 2: about it, but it's like, is this guy a reliever?

483
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Speaker 2: Like is it before he made those adjustments early this

484
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Speaker 2: season in Gwenett, I mean, it was looking like that.

485
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Speaker 2: And that was always something that was maybe in Hurston's

486
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Speaker 2: profile as a prospect because he did not have a

487
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Speaker 2: ton of great secondary offerings. But he has come so

488
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Speaker 2: far in six months. A credit to him for changing

489
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Speaker 2: his approach and changing how he pitches on the mound.

490
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Speaker 2: And I think I think I have been burned, and

491
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Speaker 2: we've all been burned by young starting pitchers, often because

492
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Speaker 2: of injury, soroka this past season A J. Smith, Shaver,

493
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Speaker 2: Kyle Wright. I can go down the list, Sean Newcomb,

494
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Speaker 2: Like we've seen young talented pitchers come up and really

495
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Speaker 2: flash and really pitch well, and then whether from injury

496
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Speaker 2: or just baseball really being really difficult and getting out

497
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Speaker 2: major leaguers being really difficult, it doesn't always work out

498
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Speaker 2: that way or the way that we thought it was

499
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Speaker 2: going to be. So I think guarded optimism is how

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Speaker 2: I'm going into the offseason with Waldrop. If I had

501
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Speaker 2: to bet, I would guess he's in the opening day

502
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Speaker 2: rotation and we'll be fine there. Ideally, he's more of

503
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Speaker 2: like the fifth starter because one, God knows somebody's gonna

504
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Speaker 2: get hurt, and two then you're not necessarily counting on

505
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Speaker 2: him in his first full major league season to be

506
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Speaker 2: like the guy. Ideally, you want him to be behind

507
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Speaker 2: a healthy sale Schwallenbach, Strider at someone in free agency,

508
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Speaker 2: Lopez Holmes, like you name it. We need to have

509
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Speaker 2: a onundions of riches and be greedy this offseason other

510
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Speaker 2: than crossing our fingers and praying that they can navigate

511
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Speaker 2: six months with a thin rotation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, pitching is very volatile for injury reasons, also for

513
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Speaker 1: performance reasons for young pitchers, like guys come up, they

514
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Speaker 1: flash and then the leaf figures them out and occasion

515
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Speaker 1: that doesn't rectify itself, like you know, Bryce thought it

516
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Speaker 1: was an All star. Let's go to example like Mike

517
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Speaker 1: Fultonevich is another one where like he had he had

518
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Speaker 1: one like truly awesome season and that was essentially it

519
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Speaker 1: for Mike Fulton Iviche and it wasn't you know, so injuries, adjustments,

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Speaker 1: all those things, but.

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Speaker 2: Even like flashes in the pant you know two ky

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Speaker 2: tws sant would flash. Sure, remember Louise Gahara, like that

523
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Speaker 2: dude had an all time September And I was like,

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Speaker 2: Holy the brains, haven't I.

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Speaker 1: Mean we were Yeah, I was gonna say he was.

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Speaker 1: He was one of you just named two of my

527
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Speaker 1: two of my guys that did not work out. I

528
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Speaker 1: was maybe maybe they scarred me for life on prospects.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm famously anti prospect generally speaking. But it's

530
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Speaker 1: funny because Tuki was like always my guy, like, and

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Speaker 1: it didn't. It didn't work for Tuki.

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Speaker 2: It's that curveball man, that curveball. I remember. I was

533
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Speaker 2: in Atlanta, my one and only trip to Truest Park

534
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Speaker 2: against the Cardinals, and Tuki threw the most absurd curveball

535
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Speaker 2: I have ever seen to strike out then Saint Louis

536
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Speaker 2: Cardinal Marcelo Zuna. Ozuna was laughing going back to the

537
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Speaker 2: dugout because like, what are you supposed to do? What

538
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 2: is the fact Tuki was my guy too? I love

539
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Speaker 2: to That's just a bummer. He's still floating around somewhere.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's still making appearances.

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Speaker 2: In the majors or maybe in the minors. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, that's today's segments on the on the game again.

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Speaker 1: If you want more on the rest of the series,

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Speaker 1: check out the show from me yesterday. But uh, five

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Speaker 1: games in a row, they're suddening red Hot Scott. We'll

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Speaker 1: All right, Scott, not a ton of news, but there

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Speaker 1: is one roster move that happened on Wednesday, and it

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Speaker 1: was it was it's kind of injury related, the kind

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Speaker 1: of process related. So anyway, the Braves placed Jig Freiley

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Speaker 1: on the sixty day IL today. He was already injured.

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Speaker 1: We thought he might might not come back to the season.

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Speaker 1: He won't come back to the season. It was reported.

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Speaker 1: I think it was by Dob. It's not a serious injury,

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Speaker 1: but this late in the year, there's no really reason

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Speaker 1: not to put him on sixty day if you wanted

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Speaker 1: to create a spot, and they did that to make

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Speaker 1: room for Carson Ragsdale. With the Braves claimed off of

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Speaker 1: waivers from the Orioles. He was sent to go net

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Speaker 1: right away, So like this is that alone makes this

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Speaker 1: more of a fringy ad. But a twenty seven year

588
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Speaker 1: old right hander mostly a starter in the minors with

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Speaker 1: the Giants and the Orioles has pitched three times in

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Speaker 1: the major so like, not a huge sample size. We

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Speaker 1: don't really know. This could be a like they see something,

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Speaker 1: This could be a like why not. We don't really know.

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Speaker 1: There's a reasonable way until now to talk about this.

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Speaker 1: It's not a huge deal. But because the hook was

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Speaker 1: also Freiley, who will talk about in a second. But

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Speaker 1: right still just like a guy and we look, we've

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Speaker 1: been saying take shots like acchoir guys, get a look

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Speaker 1: at him, no reason not to. And he's another one

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Speaker 1: to add to the list because, as we discussed yesterday,

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Speaker 1: the braves of that eighteen guys, Mike starts this season,

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Speaker 1: maybe he becomes nineteen at some point next week or something.

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Speaker 2: He might truly yeah, I mean he might be might

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Speaker 2: might twenty starters by the end of the year. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Carson Ragsdale, I would just my only take. I would

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Speaker 2: love to be in a front office, like just to

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Speaker 2: be a fly on the wall in a front office

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Speaker 2: for a couple of days and just see the process

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Speaker 2: of like one of Alex's lieutenants being like Alex, Carson Ragsdale,

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Speaker 2: Let's grab this guy, Let's see what he can do.

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Speaker 1: Let's just he's on waivers.

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Speaker 2: Let's just let's say, let's take a look like the

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Speaker 2: database and stuff they have, not just the Braves, every team.

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Speaker 2: It would just be fascinating to look over someone's shoulder

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Speaker 2: for you know, for a couple of days and see

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Speaker 2: how they operate and why on earth do they like

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Speaker 2: Carson Ragsdale must be something and it's probably nothing special,

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Speaker 2: but it's like, hey, let's get the guy. And it's

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Speaker 2: not just this pick up, it's any other pickup they do.

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Speaker 2: It is uh, it is such a funny, fascinating game

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Speaker 2: with just so many players being available at every day,

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Speaker 2: with waivers being every day and forty man rosters and

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Speaker 2: active rosters and DFAs and all that stuff. It's it

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Speaker 2: would just be an interesting you know. So you know, Alex,

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Speaker 2: I know you listen to all of our shows, listen

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Speaker 2: to all of our opinions. Please, I would love to

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Speaker 2: come by and see how you run the show.

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Speaker 1: I think it's quite clear at this point, he does

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Speaker 1: not listen or take our opinions into account in any way,

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Speaker 1: but hey, we can dream. I would listen. I would,

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Speaker 1: I would How do I say this? I would surmise

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Speaker 1: with some education that someone in the front office has

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Speaker 1: heard our podcast. I'm pretty sure that. I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 1: that's happened from what I can when I can, when

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Speaker 1: I can glean from behind the scenes. Not alex though,

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Speaker 1: to be very clear, uh, speaking of Jake Freanley quickly,

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Speaker 1: it's a straind oblique. So that's not great, but it's

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Speaker 1: not a long term thing. I feel like we should

638
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: just talk about Frailey for the last time this season

639
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Speaker 1: because he's gonna be gone now, but he's going to

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Speaker 1: keep patrol for next year. Like he could be a

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Speaker 1: non tender candidate. I'm not saying the redis definite, deinitely

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00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: gonna keep him, but he could be on the team

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Speaker 1: next year at a relatively modest cost. And if people

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Speaker 1: didn't realize this or haven't been playing a close attention

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00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: that they have recently, I totally get that. But Frehley's

646
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: claim to fame and his real role in the Majors

647
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: is that he matches right handed pitching. That is what

648
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: he does. That's what he's done for his entire career,

649
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: last five seasons in the majors, more than twelve hundred

650
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: play appearances. He has a one to fifteen WRC plus.

651
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,719
Speaker 1: I guess Righty's so like he's a corner outfielder who

652
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: can hit ridies and that isn't a sexy skill set,

653
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: but it is a useful one, particularly for a bench bat.

654
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: And you know, with the DH you don't have to

655
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: have I mean, it helps to have versatility, Like you

656
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: want your Eli Whitees, you want your Nick Allen's. I

657
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: get it, you went backup catcher. But there is a

658
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: spot on the bench for a pinch hitter or a

659
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: platoon guy in a corner outfold spot, and Freiley can

660
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: be that. He takes walks like he's Actually when they

661
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: claimed him, he was only got a clean one of waivers,

662
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: and it was like not nearly is the Hassan Kim level,

663
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: but it was like WHOA Jake Freiley was available, like

664
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: for free? They just got to claim Jake Frailey like

665
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: he's a He's a real major leaguer, That's what I'm saying.

666
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: He's not Carson Ragsdale with due respect of Carson Ragsdale.

667
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: Jake Freiley was like, oh, like that makes sense that

668
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: he'd be on a good team. Like he's a real player,

669
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: which is keep we're keeping in mind.

670
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and really the decision will be do they want

671
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 2: to tender him a contract. Yeah, this past season, Jake

672
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 2: Frailey made three point one two five million dollars, So just.

673
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: Which is bench bench bat money?

674
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 2: Yes, so probably four million dollars in ARB. If the

675
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 2: Braves want to keep Freiley around, that's uh, that's that's

676
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 2: probably something we really have to think about.

677
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's on it's on the margins for sure.

678
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: It's not a clear.

679
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 2: Decision, but yeah, yeah, especially this early in the offseason,

680
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: Like I don't think you're going to have twenty teams

681
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 2: lining up and calling Jake Frayley. If they decided to

682
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 2: non tender him, maybe you could bring him back later

683
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 2: in the offseason for a million dollars two million dollars

684
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 2: save yourself a little bit, especially if we're hopeful, and

685
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 2: maybe it's foolish hope, but hopeful the Braves are going

686
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 2: to spend some real money this year or this offseason

687
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 2: to move the need a little bit more. But yeah,

688
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 2: Jake Frayley, if he's on the team next year, I

689
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,479
Speaker 2: could totally see it. He's a valuable player. He has

690
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 2: a very set skill set. I mean, god knows this

691
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 2: team can't keep an outfield healthy, so he'd probably play

692
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 2: at some point. He'd probably be in there.

693
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Speaker 1: It does. We will do, of course, a deeper preview

694
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: on the tender slash non tender candidates when we get

695
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: there in a couple of weeks. But he is one

696
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: where it's not clear. It's not an auto yes, it's

697
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: not an auto no, but they do have control room

698
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: if they want to, And we will talk about him

699
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: again now for a couple weeks of the match because

700
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: he's out of side of mind for a little while.

701
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: Last time for you out here, Scott. The Braves have

702
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: their final, final, final road series of the season this weekend.

703
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: They have a day off on Thursday after a busy

704
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: week with four games in three days, but they play

705
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: starting Friday in Detroit. They have announced I'm gonna double

706
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: check out division that nothing's changed. Uh yeah, it's Bryce

707
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: Elder on Friday, Joey Wentz on Saturday, and Specier Schreider

708
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: on Sunday. The Tigers have a lot to play for.

709
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: Well thirty one the division, so does like I have

710
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: that much to play for. But this is a playoff

711
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: level team that's still going to be trying. I would

712
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: imagine they're going to the playoffs, et cetera. So a

713
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: little spoiler opportunity, a little you know, evaluation of pitching.

714
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: Not the biggest thing in the world, but uh, this

715
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: is it for the road this year, and Detroit is

716
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,959
Speaker 1: a fun team, so a little bit of a maybe

717
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,439
Speaker 1: some extra casual interest because they're actually playing a good team.

718
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 2: The Braves will not see Trek Scooble, which is kind

719
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 2: of a bummer. I mean, that guy's incredible. He Schooble

720
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 2: is scheduled to pitch on Thursday. I guess if it

721
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 2: rained or something that could change. But no Schooble. But

722
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 2: the Tigers good team. They were incredible in the first

723
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 2: half of the year. They've cooled off a bit, they

724
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 2: got off the really bad to start after the All

725
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 2: Star break, but good team. I mean me personally, I'm

726
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 2: gonna be rooting for the Tigers in the playoffs. That

727
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 2: it means not you know, historically a team that has

728
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 2: not won a ton in recent years and not a

729
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 2: huge payroll. They're a younger team, they're a fun team.

730
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 2: They really kind of came on like Gangbusters a year

731
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 2: ago and they rolled that into twenty twenty five and

732
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,439
Speaker 2: have continued to be good. So good team. I don't

733
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 2: know if it's the final home series of the year

734
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 2: for the Tigers, but you can imagine that ballpark will

735
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 2: be filled and energized and everything, and maybe the Braves

736
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 2: can be spoiler. That'd be cool. And if they can't,

737
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 2: then guess what they just in the Tankathon power rankings.

738
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 2: They're going to move up a little bit if they

739
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 2: lose a couple of games this weekend.

740
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it is just checked. It is their last

741
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: home series, so that plans to be rocking. I'm sure weekend. Also,

742
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 1: Saturday's game Sunday we're all used to be in really early.

743
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: Saturday's game is a one to ten pm Easter Time start,

744
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: so a couple really early games. We'll see how that goes.

745
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: But by I'll just I'll just really people know that

746
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: I am not everyone knows this, but I'm a Michigan

747
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: University of Michigan fan. I inherited that from my father

748
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: and I say that because my dad also grew up

749
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: a Tiger's fan, so I'm not I'm not a Tigers fan,

750
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: but like, if I were to have a second team,

751
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: it would be the Tigers, and I will room for

752
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: them as well. So I hope they win this weekend.

753
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: I'm kind of agnostic as to the results, to be honest,

754
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: but in the playoffs, I might jump on the bandwagon.

755
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: Hopefully the make a run. It'd be fun to see that.

756
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: And I have family that's the best of the Tigers.

757
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 2: So boy, what kind of money could you have made, Brad.

758
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the standings here. If you parlayed the

759
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 2: Toronto Blue Jays, the Detroit Tigers, and the Seattle Mariners

760
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 2: winning the three divisions in the American League, I mean, I.

761
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: Guess, yeah, Seattle might not win still because they're tied

762
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: with Houston right now, so that right, yeah, yeah, but

763
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: the other two, Yeah, Toronto was not in favorite in

764
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: the East. Of course, the Yankees were. I believe the

765
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: Tigers were, maybe like because of the the Central was

766
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 1: so mess that it wasn't like a huge upset that

767
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 1: Attickers will win to Central, but like they weren't the

768
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: Faber I don't think coming in the season. So uh yeah,

769
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: you get some long odds. Our friends, our friends at

770
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: Draft Kings would have probably taken that action from you

771
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: and been unfortunately sad when you won. But yeah, uh

772
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: interesting enough. We'll be following baseball. I'm not gonna do

773
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: a ton of that right now, like you know, not

774
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: Braves talk, but when playoffs arrive, we'll be watching. So

775
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: I mention it at times.

776
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 2: So yep, I think that's kind of our roadmap, not

777
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 2: to put the cart before the horse. But in October,

778
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 2: I think we'll do some playoff baseball talk and then

779
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 2: also just preview the off season because I mean, this

780
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 2: is a really important offseason for the Braves. We look

781
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 2: at firm, we will time stamp this. It's just before

782
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 2: midnight on Wednesday evening. We still have no announcement of

783
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 2: any kind on Brian Snicker.

784
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,959
Speaker 1: I was I wasn't gonna bring it up on today's show, soap,

785
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: but you did it for me. It's okod we'll keep

786
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 1: a streak alive. We still don't know. And by the way,

787
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: if there was a time, you would imagine if they

788
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 1: thought about this and coordinated it, you want it out

789
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: there before they come home, because it could be Brian

790
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: Snicker week next week at truest point. Yeah, if they

791
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: were gonna do it, you got it. You probably want

792
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: to get that out there before before Monday when they're

793
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 1: playing again at home. So here a couple more days

794
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: if if that happens. By the way, if we get

795
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 1: news that will be an emergency level reaction from us,

796
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: we will have at least one more show between now

797
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: and Sunday, I think is the plan, and then we'll

798
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,439
Speaker 1: have our usual usual Sunday show. But yeah, it's it's

799
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,439
Speaker 1: a thing to keep on the radar for sure. Other

800
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: than I mean the odd waiver claim your Carson wragsdalees,

801
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: that's like, that's clearly the the news hook the next

802
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: few days. Probably knock on Wood on injury stuff, of course,

803
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, Snith's status is it is it? Every day

804
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: people ask us and we don't have an answer for you,

805
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: and uh, we'll see how that goes. I'm sure it'll

806
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: get more attention when they come home, because that's just

807
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: what happens. Like, Yeah, you get larger media pools, you

808
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 1: get the local TV folks that have less inhibitions and

809
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: with what with what they asked us the way that

810
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: I'll put that, Because they don't have to deal with

811
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: it every day, it will become more more of a

812
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 1: circus as the week goes along. Next week, so we'll see.

813
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,720
Speaker 2: We'll see. Yeah, I was gonna say, an interesting last week,

814
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 2: week and a half of the season for the Raves.

815
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 1: Absolutely all right, Scott, let us get out of here

816
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: in a recentale time by our standards, Folks can find

817
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: you on social media rooting on your Indianapolis Colts at

818
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: Scott Coleman fifty five.

819
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 2: That's that correct, That is the one. Yes, lots of

820
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 2: football takes lots of college basketball starts in like a month. Brad.

821
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 2: I'm I'm pumped.

822
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: I'm just really following along with your seinfield your your

823
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: seinfeld I just rewatch side feel watch because you're you're

824
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: so young, like this is this is where we're not

825
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: I'm not that much older than you, but this is

826
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: like affirmed to me the age gap between you and I,

827
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: like Seinfeldt was unavoidable when you when I was a

828
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 1: certain age and I am a little bit older than you,

829
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 1: and I think you met you were able to miss

830
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: it because of that age gap.

831
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 2: That and I actually asked my mom and they were

832
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 2: not fans, like my parents didn't really watch Seinfeld, so

833
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 2: there was like they were more like everybody loves Raymond

834
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 2: was always on, Cheers was always on. We should do

835
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 2: like a nineties eighties, nineties sitcom show. Sometimes funny, that

836
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: might be it might be an October topic at this rate,

837
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 2: so we've been we've been churning through our off season

838
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 2: content in August and September, so we might be a

839
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 2: stuff talking about I do enjoy Seinfeld. Then there's also

840
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 2: now the unintentional like nostalgia of like the eighties and

841
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 2: nineties and you know, payphones and just a I don't know,

842
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 2: a simpler time in life.

843
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: Brad. So yeah, follow along with Scott on his Seinfeld journey,

844
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 1: but also for his baseball tics. Follow me if you

845
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,799
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847
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848
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849
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Speaker 1: Everyone does. I have friends. I have friends that all

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Speaker 1: friends of mine. Let's listen to the show.

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Speaker 2: And that friendship. Now, bra come on, text them all

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Speaker 2: and say subscribe or I am no longer your friend.

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Speaker 1: Subscribe.

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Speaker 2: Don't do that.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that anyway. Thank you everyone for

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Speaker 1: listening to the podcast. We'll have more coming up later

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Speaker 1: on this week, and we'll see everybody next time.