Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this very special year
Speaker 1: end episode of dar Day's Guys Day production of iHeartRadio. This.
Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep avenue
Speaker 1: America share consciousness. And it is Thursday, December twenty eight,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. My name's Jack O'Brien and I'm thrilled
Speaker 1: to be joined by my very special co host super
Speaker 1: producer on a hosey.
Speaker 2: Yeah, are ya, How the heck are you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm good. Great to see you again. You've been
Speaker 1: on the road on a journey. You've come back to
Speaker 1: our shores. We're thrilled to heavy back. Just talk to
Speaker 1: us for a very special movie episode.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, glad to be back. Interesting you said our
Speaker 2: shores as if we are sort of an independent country here,
Speaker 2: which we are now, So maybe knock that.
Speaker 1: Off, uh Anna. We today are talking. We're taking a
Speaker 1: look back at the year in movies. A weird year
Speaker 1: in movies because of the strike. I realized how much
Speaker 1: I'm reliant on like actor interviews to like find out
Speaker 1: that movies are coming out.
Speaker 3: Sure, so we're casting a.
Speaker 1: Wide net of people who have seen movies from our shores. Sorry,
Speaker 1: was that that was what you told me not to
Speaker 1: say from our independent land Republic of daily Is that better?
Speaker 1: Oh boy, oh dear. First of all, we're thrilled to
Speaker 1: be joined by the writer of our very show. Uh
Speaker 1: he does it all? Come to us from the Great North.
Speaker 1: It's mister j I mcnabe.
Speaker 4: Hello, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Yeahs of movies the mcnabba.
Speaker 3: What's happening?
Speaker 4: That's how it's pronounced.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, you're going to give us a Canadian movie
Speaker 1: review because you so you watch Canadian movies.
Speaker 4: Have to assume, right, We get movies a little later.
Speaker 5: So my best of twenty twenty three list includes Beverly
Speaker 5: Hills cop.
Speaker 4: Let's see what else? Is the train coming into the station?
Speaker 4: We just got that.
Speaker 3: That was scary, blew me away.
Speaker 1: You hear about it and you're like, no spoilers, and
Speaker 1: then you watch it and it's like, you can't spoil
Speaker 1: that thing, man, it's just scary no matter what.
Speaker 4: Yeah, everyone fled in terror.
Speaker 1: Yes, we're also thrilled to be joined. Welcome back to
Speaker 1: the show, super producer Beca Rubbo.
Speaker 6: Hello, Hello, I'm back yay.
Speaker 3: And I love movies. You love movies.
Speaker 1: You've seen so many movies I have.
Speaker 6: Seen a lot of movies this year, even though the
Speaker 6: strike was going on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know you.
Speaker 1: You are not as reliant on You don't just sit
Speaker 1: around watching cable TV waiting for Leonardo DiCaprio to be
Speaker 1: interviewed to tell you that a new Leo movies.
Speaker 6: Up being chronically online on TikTok. So I'm being served
Speaker 6: like every movie second an ad comes out, They're like, yeah,
Speaker 6: So I'm a TV and film critic and I've already
Speaker 6: reviewed this movie, so let's get into it, and I'm
Speaker 6: going to give you everything about it in thirty seconds.
Speaker 1: And I'm like check, yeah.
Speaker 6: Gonna go.
Speaker 1: Oh. So that's what you're counting is having seen a movie,
Speaker 1: having seen a TikTok of.
Speaker 6: Course by recap of the movie, So I've seen everything.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 1: We're also thrilled to be joined by super producer Brian Jeffries.
Speaker 7: It's me, I am here.
Speaker 3: He has seen fourteen movies this.
Speaker 7: Year, only fourteen movies ever, so yeah, which is the
Speaker 7: MAXI my first year movie.
Speaker 1: We were trying, we were all trying to figure out
Speaker 1: how many movies we've seen. I think we came out
Speaker 1: fourteen as the maximum that a human being can see. Yes,
Speaker 1: We're also thrilled to be joined by super producer Victor Right.
Speaker 8: Hello, I love movies. I love consuming Wow ouid content?
Speaker 2: Are you lying?
Speaker 1: He's never seen a movie before? We have so just
Speaker 1: you know, there are other podcasts that have, like you know,
Speaker 1: film critics who hosts, and you know that's their claim
Speaker 1: to authority, is that, oh you know, I.
Speaker 3: Watch movies for a living.
Speaker 1: We have on this podcast three different people who saw
Speaker 1: The Pope's Exorcis this year, which seems impossible to me,
Speaker 1: and yet here we are.
Speaker 7: Oh wait, I just remembered another movie I saw and
Speaker 7: immediately forgot and it continued.
Speaker 1: Just write it down, bright, don't forget. I did see
Speaker 1: the trailer where Russell Crow says talked to my boss
Speaker 1: the Hope, and that's I felt like that was all
Speaker 1: I needed to see. He does say that in the movie.
Speaker 1: That's the only review I need for that movie.
Speaker 6: He does say it in the movie, And I thought
Speaker 6: it was gonna be way scarier than it was. It
Speaker 6: was super campy.
Speaker 3: In The Pope's Exorcist. But that's why it's so good,
Speaker 3: because it's a.
Speaker 6: Perfect airplane movie. You know, you're gonna laugh a little
Speaker 6: about how bad the actors are. You're like Russell Crowe,
Speaker 6: a like award winning actor in this movie with the
Speaker 6: worst actress of all time. Like the mother in the
Speaker 6: movie is horrible. It's like she's never been in a
Speaker 6: movie before, and she's like, my kids, my husband died
Speaker 6: and I was gifted this house in Italy.
Speaker 2: What do I do?
Speaker 6: It's haunted? And yeah, and then some like Latino Pope
Speaker 6: also comes in and or not Pope, uh priest, and
Speaker 6: I should know who wants to follow in the footstets
Speaker 6: of versus Crow the Pope's Exorcist. He wants to be
Speaker 6: the next popes Exorcist. But he's a bad person because
Speaker 6: he he had sex and pre star an't supposed to
Speaker 6: have sex.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, not on my watch, not my
Speaker 1: Pope's Exorcist.
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 1: That that was not the most successful movie that came
Speaker 1: out this year.
Speaker 5: It wasn't even the most successful exorcism movie that came
Speaker 5: out of the snow.
Speaker 1: That's true, although the other one didn't do that well
Speaker 1: did it?
Speaker 8: The also Yeah, and it was bad. It was so
Speaker 8: because the reason I like The Pope's Exorcist is because
Speaker 8: it is camp the exorcist believer is just boring schlog,
Speaker 8: you know, just nothing. So when Russell Crowe comes out
Speaker 8: and he's like John McClain just being kind of an exorcist,
Speaker 8: you know, yeah, then oh okay, I could buy that.
Speaker 8: But believers so boring.
Speaker 5: You know, they should have had the end of Exorcist
Speaker 5: believer of Russell Crowe show up like Nick Fury.
Speaker 4: Like we're putting together, put together.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so yeah, like do Fast and Furious eyes
Speaker 1: the Exorcist universe?
Speaker 6: Not enough, not enough on enough, Wow, I can't speak.
Speaker 6: Not on enough list from the Google doc I didn't
Speaker 6: see enough Fast and Furious on the list.
Speaker 1: Well came out this.
Speaker 6: Year and it was really good.
Speaker 3: I was shocked to remember that it came out this year.
Speaker 1: It was the number five movie at the global box office,
Speaker 1: pulling in seven hundred and four million dollars, but it
Speaker 1: didn't even like crack the top fifteen in the United States.
Speaker 1: So this was the year that like the Fast franchise
Speaker 1: officially ran out of gas. That's right, it's a car
Speaker 1: playoffoard at the US box office. Nobody, Nobody care Well were.
Speaker 7: One of the first movies to like really first big
Speaker 7: movies to come back after the pandemic like that people
Speaker 7: were actually actually wanted to see that was.
Speaker 3: Past nine nine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was nine baby. Yeah, that was like the.
Speaker 6: First in like may I.
Speaker 1: Think, yeah, I'm missing some time they're cranking these babies out.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and maybe because Fast nine was.
Speaker 7: That Fast night when they went to space, right, that was.
Speaker 6: It was like they went too far. They were like,
Speaker 6: how how did we go so far? We strayed so
Speaker 6: far from the plot, but they brought it back in
Speaker 6: Fast ten. I don't think people gave Fast enough faith,
Speaker 6: Like they didn't trust in the process that Fast ten
Speaker 6: would be better than Fast nine.
Speaker 2: So well, Last ten is a two parter, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's another part coming out, so I will I will
Speaker 2: reserve judgment.
Speaker 1: Spider Man Across the Universe or Across the Spider Verse
Speaker 1: also a two parter, like first part of a two parter,
Speaker 1: which I possible, yeah yeah, and Mession impossible.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Across the Spider Verse is like very much like it
Speaker 1: just ends in the middle of a movie plot. It's
Speaker 1: just like, oh, well, I guess we're out of time here.
Speaker 3: Well we'll do another one. And it's very like the
Speaker 3: fact that it.
Speaker 1: Was as successful as it was, like both successful box
Speaker 1: office wise, but also just I think it was widely
Speaker 1: agreed on as like a very successful film is pretty wild.
Speaker 1: I think we're more on board with that because of
Speaker 1: streaming maybe.
Speaker 5: But so that that sequel won't be out for a while,
Speaker 5: I don't think, because they were saying it was going
Speaker 5: to come out next March, and then I think Hailey
Speaker 5: Steinfelder someone said she hadn't even recorded her lines for
Speaker 5: it yet, which would come before the animation obviously. So yeah,
Speaker 5: we're probably not going to see that in our lifetime.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just generally, did you guys feel like there were
Speaker 1: any movies that I mean, I guess we're already discovering that,
Speaker 1: but movies that like kind of snuck up and you
Speaker 1: or like came out and you didn't even notice they
Speaker 1: came out.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I got I got one for sure.
Speaker 1: What's that?
Speaker 7: So it's a movie called Cobweb. It's a very small
Speaker 7: horror movie that came out the day that Oppenheimer and
Speaker 7: Barbie came out, and just.
Speaker 1: No one knows.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I think it got a theatrical release, but yeah,
Speaker 7: like who would know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, do you think those producers were trying to like
Speaker 5: make Barbenheimer Web happen.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: Like.
Speaker 7: I guess they couldn't. It's not up to them when
Speaker 7: it comes out or whatever. But I would have I
Speaker 7: would have moved.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Well, maybe they were like because the strike was like impending,
Speaker 6: they were like, well, this is a shot yeah before.
Speaker 1: A strike while the iron Yeah, July was a wild time.
Speaker 1: That was also when my favorite film of the year.
Speaker 1: I guess we can talk about our top ten. The
Speaker 1: Sound of Freedom came out.
Speaker 7: Jack.
Speaker 1: That was not on Mike Jack, right right, I talk
Speaker 1: to you guys about Jack. If I talk to you
Speaker 1: guys that how good that one is off Mike. That
Speaker 1: is one that came out though, and it is in
Speaker 1: the top ten I think top twelve US box office.
Speaker 6: It feels like it came out forever ago. Every time
Speaker 6: I hear it, I'm like, didn't that come out in
Speaker 6: like twenty twenty?
Speaker 3: People?
Speaker 1: It's a classic. It feels like it's always been there,
Speaker 1: like the Bible.
Speaker 3: Becca.
Speaker 7: I feel like people talked about it for like four
Speaker 7: months and it was only in the theater for like
Speaker 7: six weeks.
Speaker 3: Maybe Yeah, well, all right.
Speaker 8: I was just gonna say when they were talking about it,
Speaker 8: they were talking about like theaters in quotation marks like
Speaker 8: sabotaging the film or something. Right, it was never about
Speaker 8: the movie. It was about like some conspiracy around.
Speaker 6: The movie, the movie being sabotage.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, the people who and the pandemic needed something
Speaker 1: else to plan, and so they planned, you know, stop
Speaker 1: stopping that movie from being as successful as it should
Speaker 1: have been.
Speaker 3: It should have dusted.
Speaker 1: Oppenheimer and Barbie in my opinion, all right, do we
Speaker 1: want to should we go through the like critical top ten,
Speaker 1: should we go through the box office top ten? Stop
Speaker 1: where we have? Or how about does everybody want to
Speaker 1: just go around and like give a stray observation about
Speaker 1: a movie they saw this year? Sure, astray? Did you
Speaker 1: see any stray movies?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I would say every movie I watched was a stray.
Speaker 2: I mean, actually, there's two movies I saw that I
Speaker 2: would say, really, and this just might be from my perspective,
Speaker 2: sort of controlled the universal zeitgeist. And obviously that was
Speaker 2: Barbie and Oppenheimer what And I do think now this
Speaker 2: also might be sort of my own perspective on things
Speaker 2: that it was very hard I think this year to
Speaker 2: compete with those two films. Yeah, and now was that
Speaker 2: sort of a crazy opinion.
Speaker 1: Now so successful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like the rest of the year, like
Speaker 2: a lot of films fell under the shadow of those
Speaker 2: two giants, if you will. The Barbenheimer epidemic is sort
Speaker 2: of what we experienced, and thus you did not really
Speaker 2: get to enjoy other films. And and then and then
Speaker 2: on top of all that, a film a TV writers
Speaker 2: and actors strike happened, which then really really sort of
Speaker 2: snubbed out a lot of stuff because no one could
Speaker 2: promote it. You couldn't really talk about it to be
Speaker 2: in solidarity with the strikes. So we in a very
Speaker 2: interesting year.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 2: It came in so hot with Barbie and Oppenheimer, and
Speaker 2: then it was just like, oh, radio silence, you can't
Speaker 2: talk about anything else. So I really no one had
Speaker 2: a chance outside of Barbenheimer.
Speaker 1: And I was in such solidarity with the writers that
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even talk about movies in my personal life.
Speaker 3: I was just doing I mean.
Speaker 2: That's what Jack. Yeah, you're being sarcastic, but I actually
Speaker 2: do hope you were in solidarity.
Speaker 1: Yo. I went and saw, you know, movies and then
Speaker 1: just came out and guilted anybody who was like talking
Speaker 1: about them.
Speaker 2: To you know, you weren't supposed to go see movies.
Speaker 2: I think that's like the whole point strike.
Speaker 1: Is that right?
Speaker 2: Interesting? Yeah, you weren't supposed to do anything. You were't
Speaker 2: supposed to exist. Wow, you're a bad person.
Speaker 6: You were supposed to actually just figure out how to disappear.
Speaker 1: Just h I think I mentioned at one point like
Speaker 1: I didn't realize Killers of the Flower Moon was out
Speaker 1: and like until after it was out, And that's the
Speaker 1: sort of thing like I would normally get up for,
Speaker 1: but I really it was really embarrassing how much I'm
Speaker 1: reliant on media like PR teams, because I almost completely
Speaker 1: missed that.
Speaker 7: I mean, that's understandable because it's an Apple production and
Speaker 7: nobody Apparently there's lots of good shows on Apple that
Speaker 7: no one knows about because they.
Speaker 6: No one wants to pay for it.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 7: It's very weird because Apple is known for their marketing prowess,
Speaker 7: but not with not with their TV wing.
Speaker 3: I guess they want to keep it a secret.
Speaker 1: That's how you make something that's really cool.
Speaker 2: Actually, I'll shout out some Apple TV television I really
Speaker 2: enjoyed on.
Speaker 3: The streaming episode.
Speaker 2: Yes, save its streaming episode. What are we talking about here.
Speaker 2: Damn it. I know who I am, what I am. Okay, Fine,
Speaker 2: I won't acknowledge TV at all.
Speaker 6: Okay, I will say the barbin t stuff though, I
Speaker 6: feel like even made me forget about what movies had
Speaker 6: come out pre Barbenheimer. Yeah, like I really had a
Speaker 6: dig on a list and be like, okay, what was
Speaker 6: I marketed? What did I actually watch? And like go
Speaker 6: into theaters, Like I forgot Fast Sex was this year
Speaker 6: and I like made a big deal. I took like
Speaker 6: ten people in the movies. We we did a whole thing.
Speaker 7: It took me like six months to get around to
Speaker 7: watching Fast Dicks, and I was excited to watch Fast Yes,
Speaker 7: Like it just took me that long.
Speaker 6: Like Magic Mike Slaust Dance, I forgot about that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this year so fun.
Speaker 6: That was a great and like fun.
Speaker 2: But we got to see Channing Tatum really really sort
Speaker 2: of dance up on Salma Hayk, which in my opinion
Speaker 2: was like worth the weird plot.
Speaker 6: Oh absolutely, it was one hundred that like ten minute
Speaker 6: dancing and it was beautifully ten minutes like they needed
Speaker 6: it to be. It was not. It was savoring. You
Speaker 6: could just and they give it to you right at
Speaker 6: the beginning too. They were like, we're in this.
Speaker 1: You don't have to wait, all right, should we take
Speaker 1: a let's take a quick break, we'll come back. We'll
Speaker 1: talk about some themes we saw across the top movies
Speaker 1: of the year.
Speaker 3: We'll be.
Speaker 1: And we're back. And so I was just looking. I
Speaker 1: was looking through the critics Top ten list, like a
Speaker 1: compendium of the critic top ten list. Metacritic used to
Speaker 1: do this. Then they redesigned Metacritic along with the overarching
Speaker 1: idea to make it a worse website, I think, and
Speaker 1: it's just like not, they don't do that anymore. And
Speaker 1: I'd seen, I think the top five. I think i'd
Speaker 1: seen all the movies in the top five, and then
Speaker 1: you know, a smattering across you got Chick Killers of
Speaker 1: the Flower Moon at number one, you got Shere Oppenheimer
Speaker 1: at number two, got Made December Past Lives, the Korean film,
Speaker 1: and then Barbie coming in hot number five, and then
Speaker 1: you know, across the Spider Verses in there at number twelve.
Speaker 1: So I feel like, I mean, the one most notable
Speaker 1: thing is that, like there's a lot of highly successful
Speaker 1: movies in the top ten and that doesn't usually happen,
Speaker 1: doesn't always doesn't usually happen. Also the Asteroid City, the
Speaker 1: latest Wes Anderson movies, like at number eight. I did
Speaker 1: not like that movie, but people apparently.
Speaker 6: It was bad.
Speaker 1: I fucking hated it.
Speaker 3: What I don't You got to.
Speaker 7: Put something on the list. You gotta put something on the.
Speaker 1: List of like we got this number eight spot, we
Speaker 1: don't know what to do with it.
Speaker 6: I made a category that was movies that felt so
Speaker 6: pushed that made me made it impossible to watch, which
Speaker 6: as Asteroid City, even though I did watch it. I
Speaker 6: put no hard feelings on that list. Anyone but you,
Speaker 6: The newest rom com with What's Her Face? Sidney Sweeney, Ferrari,
Speaker 6: Flaming Hot White Men, Can't Jump in eighty for Brady.
Speaker 6: To me, those were supposed to be blockbusters and I
Speaker 6: hate it. They looked so bad. I hated all of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you they You felt like they were pushed
Speaker 1: too hard. They were just like they were like.
Speaker 6: These are gonna be so fun funny, or like some
Speaker 6: of them were Oscar baity, Like I feel like Ferrari's
Speaker 6: really big Oscar bait and yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel like the theme if I had to summarize thematically,
Speaker 1: like some common threads. I'd say, one is, are we
Speaker 1: the bad guys? Like I know I could like that.
Speaker 1: I keep bringing up that Mitchell and Web sketch where
Speaker 1: they're Nazis and they're like, wait, are we?
Speaker 3: Are we the bad guys?
Speaker 1: Because they have like skulls on all their uh Nazi uniforms.
Speaker 7: Footnotes of it every show.
Speaker 1: Yeah you can, because it's gonna keep coming up. But
Speaker 1: like I don't know, uh kills the flower Moon making
Speaker 1: ugly bed teeth. Leonardo DiCaprio, the protagonist of that movie
Speaker 1: is wild. I don't think there's ever been a more
Speaker 1: like unlikable protagonist since maybe Dan Santa for Santa University
Speaker 1: fans like claims he can read and does look like shit,
Speaker 1: but the parts where he claims he can read aren't convincing.
Speaker 1: Oppenheimer Obviously, the whole point is Oppenheimer being like, maybe
Speaker 1: that was a bad idea, and then like America as one,
Speaker 1: just like raking him over the cols. You know, May
Speaker 1: December obviously not a super charming or super like easy
Speaker 1: to like protagonists.
Speaker 3: There's Child Predator.
Speaker 1: And then you know, a not very likable movie. Star,
Speaker 1: and then there's there's another one's zone of interest, uh
Speaker 1: that I feel like is a similar plot to Barbie
Speaker 1: and I haven't I Haven't seen Zone. The subject is
Speaker 1: a Nazi officer who's trying to create a little like
Speaker 1: zone of peace and normalcy right next to Auschwitz, like
Speaker 1: where his family lives, which feels like an appropriate metaphor
Speaker 1: for I think. I think it's trying to be a
Speaker 1: metaphor for like the modern condition of I'm an American
Speaker 1: this one I'm yeah. And that Barbie is similarly like
Speaker 1: lives in her own dream world that is, you know,
Speaker 1: mainly used to feel consumption. It's obviously not as bleak
Speaker 1: as Auschwitz, but I feel like, I don't know, there's
Speaker 1: You guys were talking about the movie Cobweb before we
Speaker 1: start recording, and you say gaslighting, And I feel like
Speaker 1: gaslighting is a like both coming coming to terms with
Speaker 1: being the bad guy of history and also like gaslighting
Speaker 1: and being gas lilt like it seems to be seems
Speaker 1: to be a central thing that people are kind of
Speaker 1: coming around.
Speaker 3: Two.
Speaker 1: That's so that's my theme of movies in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 8: I have one for horror. I don't know if it
Speaker 8: ever went away. But I feel like exorcism movies, or
Speaker 8: at least like religion and horror was kind of a
Speaker 8: big deal in twenty twenty three. I'm looking at the
Speaker 8: list here and it's like the none to Pope's Exorcists
Speaker 8: that we just talked about, the sequel to the original Exorcist,
Speaker 8: and then even like we started the year off with
Speaker 8: Knock at the Cabin. Do you remember that movie? Yeah one, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 8: where it was a group of essentially religious fundamentalists torturing
Speaker 8: a like gay family and they were proven right and
Speaker 8: they're right, yeah, exactly, and it's like, I don't know,
Speaker 8: it just feels like Evil Dead Rise also different version,
Speaker 8: but it's like kind of possession and exorcism and religion
Speaker 8: coming into horror. It feels like previous years it would
Speaker 8: be more focused on like slashers or existential horror, but
Speaker 8: this year religion felt very, very big this year. I
Speaker 8: don't know.
Speaker 6: Why, Probably because of like satanic panic coming back a
Speaker 6: little bit, or you know, given the political climate people reacting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'm a trad trad wife, so yeah, talks.
Speaker 7: It's something that will always be like when you when
Speaker 7: you sort of indoctrinate, speaking of gas lighting document children
Speaker 7: into religions with a lot of spooky imagery that's baked in.
Speaker 7: That's I feel like that's just gonna effective throughout life,
Speaker 7: just pulling from that and throwing that in a film
Speaker 7: and like, yeah, that's gonna hit something, you know, deep
Speaker 7: into subconscious probably.
Speaker 3: Yeah, spooky.
Speaker 5: And did you guys see skin a rink?
Speaker 2: I don't even know what you just said.
Speaker 5: I would hear about it though, it was like, yeah,
Speaker 5: it became a big thing on TikTok. It was like
Speaker 5: a Canadian guy made it and it's a it's a
Speaker 5: horror movie about essentially the plot, if you can call
Speaker 5: it that, it's just like a kid, like a four
Speaker 5: year old kid and his sister's parents just disappear from
Speaker 5: their house and it's all. It's basically like an art
Speaker 5: house movie, Like you don't even see any human faces really,
Speaker 5: but it's very much like like what you're saying about,
Speaker 5: like the things that scary you as a kid, being
Speaker 5: religion coming back like this feels like a movie someone
Speaker 5: made because of they were able to kind of act
Speaker 5: the things that scared them as a kid. Like it
Speaker 5: feels like you're in a nightmare you had and like,
Speaker 5: you know, when you were six years old or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. It was so I'd read a lot
Speaker 4: about it, but it was.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 4: It was better than I thought it would be.
Speaker 5: It was actually like I thought it'd be a bit
Speaker 5: more like an intellectual exercise, but it was.
Speaker 4: It was really evocative. I thought it was good and
Speaker 4: uh and worth checking out.
Speaker 8: I heard completely mixed reviews on that one, where they
Speaker 8: described it exactly how you did of Oh, there's not
Speaker 8: really a plaud It's about like recreating a nightmare from childhood.
Speaker 8: And half of the people I talked to absolutely loved it,
Speaker 8: and then the other half just despised that movie.
Speaker 7: So yeah, I love divisive movie. If your movie has
Speaker 7: a sixty percent on Rotten Tomatoes, it's probably my favorite movie,
Speaker 7: something about sixty percent.
Speaker 1: Five Nights of Freddy's was the big like horror movie.
Speaker 6: Okay, I don't know how I felt about it. It
Speaker 6: was very it was like a fun ride, but I
Speaker 6: hated the ending. I was like, really, this is how
Speaker 6: we chose.
Speaker 1: To end the movie.
Speaker 3: And I didn't see it, but.
Speaker 6: Apparently it's like very culty like there's like a whole
Speaker 6: like underground community of people who are fans of this. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and that's why I watched it because I kept hearing
Speaker 6: about this, like people who were like making fan fiction
Speaker 6: and like all this stuff. I was like, what are
Speaker 6: they talking about? So I watched the movie and I
Speaker 6: was like, I still don't get it, and I was
Speaker 6: like deep on Reddit trying to figure out what the
Speaker 6: fuck is this about. Yeah, I still don't get it.
Speaker 6: I guess it's based off a video game.
Speaker 7: And that's why the video game Lowreer goes so deep
Speaker 7: for so many years now that like you're just here
Speaker 7: in the dust, here in the dust.
Speaker 6: Yeah. I was like, there's nothing I can do. I've
Speaker 6: just been sucked in and I give up.
Speaker 1: It's but I do think it like ties back to
Speaker 1: what you're you guys were talking about, because that's a
Speaker 1: like Chuck E. Cheese style environment and Chuck E Cheese
Speaker 1: style animatronics like come to life and kill right, which
Speaker 1: I feel like it is probably something that occurred to
Speaker 1: a child who spent time around Chuck E.
Speaker 3: Cheese.
Speaker 1: Well that's why they.
Speaker 6: Kill, Oh you mean like in real life? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: like their child and that's why they killed because they
Speaker 6: want Indoctor another child.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah, and but like a lot of the
Speaker 1: you know, not just in horror, but you know, Barbie
Speaker 1: obviously a childhood toy, Super Mario Brothers, childhood toy. Like
Speaker 1: this is the top movies that the worldwide box office Barbie,
Speaker 1: Super Mario Brothers movie, Oppenheimer. We all played with our
Speaker 1: Oppenheimer action figures growing up.
Speaker 6: Absolutely scientists, Truman.
Speaker 7: With laser sounds.
Speaker 6: Wait, speaking of games, I saw that you had Jack
Speaker 6: on the dock. One of the themes of being like
Speaker 6: brand movies. Did anyone watch the Tetris movie?
Speaker 2: There was a Tetris movie, Yeah, with what's his name?
Speaker 4: The guy who played Triston?
Speaker 5: Yeah, what you said, what's the same the guy played
Speaker 5: Elton John right, Elton?
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: You know what I just I just realized what my
Speaker 7: my theme for this year was is brand movies. How
Speaker 7: many brand movies were this year?
Speaker 3: A lot?
Speaker 1: There was.
Speaker 7: There was Cheetos, there was Tetris.
Speaker 6: Now I forgot about the Nike movie.
Speaker 3: Barbie. It was like kind of.
Speaker 7: Movie.
Speaker 1: It was very like Mario is like, you know, a
Speaker 1: brand movie in the sense that it's like taking place
Speaker 1: in the world of the brand. But like Barbie is
Speaker 1: like a self aware, like meta commentary where in which
Speaker 1: the brand exists and people like, granted, nobody's like making
Speaker 1: a claim that this is actually how Barbie's like came
Speaker 1: to be or anything like that. Well I guess they did, right,
Speaker 1: Like they have a character who is the veteran Barbie.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, it was kind of the ultimate brand
Speaker 1: movie and also the ultimate movie, and then it was
Speaker 1: the most.
Speaker 7: Of twenty three.
Speaker 3: Yeah, is branding.
Speaker 5: I mean basically Matt Damon plays the same character in
Speaker 5: Air and Oppenheimer.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the rude to all Evil is actually marketing.
Speaker 1: We're learned Oppenheimer's about the creation of the American brand.
Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know, but I.
Speaker 6: Brought up Tetris to say that it was awful.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 6: It was some of the worst acting I have seen
Speaker 6: in a long time. I was shook at how.
Speaker 1: Bad it was.
Speaker 6: I really love hated the plot hole of like Taron
Speaker 6: Egerton's character marrying this Japanese woman and like living in
Speaker 6: Japan and basically working for his own Japanese gaming company
Speaker 6: with his wife, and that's kind of I mean, obviously
Speaker 6: it's based on a real story, but point being, he
Speaker 6: is married to this Japanese woman, they have children. He
Speaker 6: speaks no Japanese. They live in Japan. He speaks no Japanese.
Speaker 6: He speaks only English to his children. His children only
Speaker 6: speak Japanese to him. So it's clear he supposedly in
Speaker 6: this universe understands Japanese, but he they obviously the actor
Speaker 6: did not want to like learn how to speak like
Speaker 6: any lines in Japanese, or like didn't have the capacity.
Speaker 6: I don't know, but I thought it was the biggest
Speaker 6: plot hole that he had this Japanese wife that only
Speaker 6: spoke in Japanese and his children only spooking Japanese, and
Speaker 6: they lived in Japan, and he couldn't speak any Japanese.
Speaker 6: He like talked to Japanese. I mean the people of Nintendo.
Speaker 6: He like went and talked to them, and he came
Speaker 6: in there.
Speaker 1: With the American energy. It's English, yeah, and they all.
Speaker 6: Spoke to him in Japanese. I was like, what is.
Speaker 1: Oh, sure that's not historically because like I know people
Speaker 1: who like only speak to their parents in English, but
Speaker 1: then their parents speak back to them in their native language.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 6: I don't know, I don't know if it was historically accurate,
Speaker 6: but I thought it was very funny and very off
Speaker 6: putting that he just kept being so American, storming into
Speaker 6: the rooms being like I need to get shit done
Speaker 6: and I will, you know, solve these problems and like
Speaker 6: be the best business person ever and like Russia and
Speaker 6: Tokyo and was just like in his American way and
Speaker 6: like refuse to like learn any of the cultural touch
Speaker 6: points or languages of any of the things that he did. So,
Speaker 6: but let me know, guys, if that was historically accurate.
Speaker 3: He played the tall, skinny Tetris block right.
Speaker 5: Like this, Yeah, the l maybe that actor was just like,
Speaker 5: you know, not going to learn a second language.
Speaker 6: For how I felt about it, Like it's not like a.
Speaker 4: Rock amand too on the back burner.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like it felt like more that he did not
Speaker 6: want to and or was not capable of maybe jizzing
Speaker 6: up a little you know, Japanese versus it being historically accurate,
Speaker 6: and just it felt like when you walk it, that's
Speaker 6: how it felt, and it fell off putting.
Speaker 7: I love the level of historical accuracy that you were
Speaker 7: checking for in.
Speaker 6: It felt so off putting, Like the way the kids
Speaker 6: spoke to him, the way he spoke to his wife.
Speaker 6: I was like, how are you moving around to Japan
Speaker 6: just being This.
Speaker 7: Is not how I remember the story of Tetris.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break and we'll come
Speaker 1: back and look at some more trends and final thoughts.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back, and we're back, and Jim, you
Speaker 1: had another good trend that I noticed. I guess I
Speaker 1: didn't notice that I was confused by in a recent
Speaker 1: when I saw the trailer for The Mean Girl's Musical,
Speaker 1: which completely hides the fact that it's a musical, and
Speaker 1: so it just seems like a remake of Mean Girls,
Speaker 1: but like without an original take on Mean Girls in
Speaker 1: any way, it's just like and the trailers like from
Speaker 1: the mind of Tina Fey. I was like, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: that was the whole point of the first Mean Girl.
Speaker 1: What the fuck are you guys doing here?
Speaker 2: It's a musical now and it's also a hit on Broadway,
Speaker 2: so what do you Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm complaining that they're hiding the fact that it's.
Speaker 2: No it literally says mean Girls and musical on all
Speaker 2: the posters and if you're checked in and doesn't happen.
Speaker 5: But the trailer, yeah, there's no songs in the trailer
Speaker 5: and like they did the same thing with Wonka.
Speaker 6: Apparently this has been a cultural commentary on TikTok. They
Speaker 6: talked about it with the color purple too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't show musical parts usually in trailers. It's
Speaker 2: just sort of a given it's a musical.
Speaker 6: I do think it's because musicals have not been doing
Speaker 6: very well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, West Side Story in the Heights. In the Heights
Speaker 1: both did battye horrible.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they were big ones, like the Hugh Jackman Hugh
Speaker 5: Jackman plays a circus guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a big hit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that was fun.
Speaker 6: That was a good one.
Speaker 1: I had no idea that Pope's Exorcist was a musical
Speaker 1: for you guys.
Speaker 6: I mean Russell Crowe. We remember Jean Valjean.
Speaker 1: One of our great musical performances, just just because it's
Speaker 1: like he brings the energy of like if you asked
Speaker 1: me to just sing, like that's kind of like singing. Yeah. Nah,
Speaker 1: Well the guy historically wouldn't have taken voice lessons, So
Speaker 1: why should I be able to sing?
Speaker 2: So why should he hear?
Speaker 4: Well, he has a band, he's a singer in a band.
Speaker 4: He's one of our great musicians.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, one of our great singers, of our great
Speaker 1: Broadway stars. But yeah, so I don't know any other trends,
Speaker 1: any any other movie observations.
Speaker 2: That people can. I name some movies I liked. Yeah,
Speaker 2: May December. I didn't understand anything that was going on.
Speaker 2: Great film, actually really Yeah, it's it's a really.
Speaker 1: Piano music fucking freaked me out.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know why Todd Haynes decided that was
Speaker 2: the choice, but I think he was just trying to
Speaker 2: go like full camp. I don't know what was happening,
Speaker 2: because I was like, what's what do we No one's
Speaker 2: well here? Yeah, And I think it worked because the
Speaker 2: music made me feel unwell, and I think that was
Speaker 2: the whole point.
Speaker 8: Is it a comedy?
Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm just it's not a comedy.
Speaker 6: No, it's a drama. It is very drama.
Speaker 3: Okay, just describe it as a dark comedy.
Speaker 2: There's nothing funny happening at all.
Speaker 6: It's based on that lady who went to jail for
Speaker 6: having sex with her students, the marrying.
Speaker 1: Her, which admittedly was hilarious.
Speaker 2: But no, I will say Charlie, Charlie. Yeah, her name
Speaker 2: is like Trum Maryland, Timbo or something like that. But
Speaker 2: I will say Charlie Melton incredible performance. Have never ever
Speaker 2: thought about him ever in my life, And I was like,
Speaker 2: he is doing.
Speaker 6: A lot, I thought, and that's it Dale?
Speaker 1: Is that it? Though?
Speaker 3: Because I felt like I didn't watch one Verdale.
Speaker 6: He was in one drama with like Yrsi.
Speaker 1: Was like, I didn't watch a ton, like a metric
Speaker 1: ton of Riverdale. I watched a lot of Riverdale, love
Speaker 1: each episode like three to four times.
Speaker 6: And I think he was also in what's it called
Speaker 6: the Sabrina Show, Sabrina the New Sabrina, the Teenage Witch
Speaker 6: on Netflix. They had like a crossover like Riverdale and Sabrina.
Speaker 5: Don't pretend that you didn't watch far enough to see
Speaker 5: jug Head doing an alien autopsy.
Speaker 6: It went so crazy.
Speaker 1: It was wait that like off the rail, Yes, this.
Speaker 6: Is also star That's what I saw him in.
Speaker 1: Is he him? No?
Speaker 6: Okay, one of the jocks, Like he's like a jock. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and then he's like a warlock in in Sabrena.
Speaker 1: Okay, hell yeah that's a good film.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then I actually, you know what this movie it.
Speaker 2: I was surprised how much I ended up liking. But
Speaker 2: no hard feelings. It's hilarious with Jennifer Lawrence. It's really
Speaker 2: really not I know, well, unfortunately it's hilarious. Fortunately watch
Speaker 2: it with hilarious eyes.
Speaker 6: I seen it.
Speaker 2: I just was saying seeing me, I was like, if
Speaker 2: you haven't seen it.
Speaker 6: I will go watch it for you.
Speaker 2: It's really funny. I was surprised at how funny I
Speaker 2: ended up like I I didn't. I put it on,
Speaker 2: being like, oh, put this on the background, and then
Speaker 2: I it's just like, oh my god, I'm actually cracking up.
Speaker 6: Little tea.
Speaker 2: They did a good job. And then you know Dix
Speaker 2: the musical hilarious. If you had a chance to see that.
Speaker 6: With Josh Sharp and Aaron Jackson.
Speaker 2: Aaron Jackson, Yeah, very funny. Bowen Yang's in it, Quiz
Speaker 2: Lady with Aquafina and Sandra Damn.
Speaker 1: These are the really that one I have not This
Speaker 1: is the first time I've heard of that.
Speaker 6: It looks good. I just missed it.
Speaker 2: It's pretty funny. Joy Ride. I also really enjoyed joy Ride, uh,
Speaker 2: which a lot of people like shit on, but I
Speaker 2: thought it was like a really funny movie.
Speaker 1: I thought it was fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a great plane plane watch I watched.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I watched it on a plane.
Speaker 1: I watched are you there, God, It's me Margaret on
Speaker 1: a plane and that was fine. Just going back to
Speaker 1: the theory of religion, I realized The nun Too was
Speaker 1: like a massive hit. It was made two hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty eight million dollars.
Speaker 8: All of those always get like just so much, but
Speaker 8: not the Pup's exorst do we think, why do we
Speaker 8: think what happened for people?
Speaker 3: Just not?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 6: People really love the nun To one. So I think, you.
Speaker 8: Know, when's the Conjuring Universe too?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 1: It is the.
Speaker 6: Because there was not to spoil Conjuring Cinematic Universe, but
Speaker 6: there was like.
Speaker 8: A post credits scene where the main character from the
Speaker 8: Conjuring like answers the phone, is like, oh, I'll be
Speaker 8: right there or something. It's like, oh shit, they're really
Speaker 8: bringing everyone together.
Speaker 6: It is the Conjuring Cinematic Universe. I'm telling you.
Speaker 2: Well, in that regard, I would recommend The Blackening. Very
Speaker 2: funny movie. It's a horror kind of.
Speaker 5: Way better, way better than the screen movie that came
Speaker 5: out this year too, The Blackening.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah yeah. And then also they cloned Tyrone.
Speaker 2: I feel like people slept On and they cloned Tyrone.
Speaker 2: That was an incredible good They cloned Tyrone was great.
Speaker 3: It's just like came raight to Netflix, right.
Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, yeah, that's a tough way to
Speaker 1: release a film.
Speaker 2: And then I would also, yeah, Past Lives incredible.
Speaker 3: Past Lives is so good.
Speaker 6: Okay, I'm gonna have a controversial opinion. I did not
Speaker 6: like it. I didn't like it, and I feel like
Speaker 6: I'm the only person who didn't like it. I really
Speaker 6: wanted to. I love A twenty four. It felt like
Speaker 6: it was like a film Buffs kind of movie. But
Speaker 6: I went in and I was kind of like, I
Speaker 6: don't know, it left me something to be desired. Maybe
Speaker 6: I need to give it another watch.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's a little like slow. Maybe I can
Speaker 1: talk about watches with another person who I was recommending
Speaker 1: it to, and that's like the worst way to watch
Speaker 1: a movie because they're like, oh, God, speed it up,
Speaker 1: something better happened here fast. I think they ended up
Speaker 1: liking it, but not as much as me. But I
Speaker 1: will say that one also top five in critics picks.
Speaker 1: And it also I feel like ties into the thing
Speaker 1: about like, I don't know, America not being a good place.
Speaker 1: Like our protagonist moves to America to be a Pulitzer
Speaker 1: Prize winner and is like, I don't know, falls back
Speaker 1: and forth for her childhood sweetheart. But it's also like
Speaker 1: just his like very traditional Korean energy, as she puts it,
Speaker 1: just so Korean.
Speaker 3: But I, yeah, I think it all.
Speaker 1: It all fits together of people just being like America
Speaker 1: fucking sucks.
Speaker 6: It's a very real story and I appreciated that about it,
Speaker 6: But it was I think maybe a little too slow
Speaker 6: for me, and I wanted to love it more than
Speaker 6: I did when I watched it the first time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I liked that.
Speaker 1: I thought they would say a good job.
Speaker 5: The optimal note way to watch that movie is if
Speaker 5: you're full of crippling regrets, you.
Speaker 6: Feel for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, some other some other shout outs. These are just
Speaker 2: films I enjoyed watching. Don't think too hard on It
Speaker 2: now because I know this whole goddamn podcast loves to
Speaker 2: think way too hard.
Speaker 3: On Don't think twice. Don't think too hard on it now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think too hard on it now. I'll
Speaker 2: just do a quick round Theater Camp, Bottom Outlaws, Mission Impossible,
Speaker 2: Asteroid City, Magic, Mike three those were mind just yeah,
Speaker 2: you know what, whatever, it's enjoyable, enjoy something for once
Speaker 2: in your life.
Speaker 1: I just feel like Asteroids City. I think I just
Speaker 1: want less of the framing ship where it's like and
Speaker 1: then this was actually a play that he was putting like,
Speaker 1: it's just.
Speaker 2: Here's Wes Anderson movies. Well, because he never changes it up.
Speaker 2: It's always the same. It's like people like, why is
Speaker 2: this movie exactly like all his other movies, and it's
Speaker 2: like he's nice.
Speaker 7: Is if maybe just one time he did he he
Speaker 7: was directing somebody else's material.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's not gonna happen, you guys, you have to
Speaker 2: let go of these sort of notions.
Speaker 3: It's just not gonna happen.
Speaker 2: Go watch Scorcas, like get out of here, or maybe
Speaker 2: you go to you don't go to Wes Anderson and
Speaker 2: be like, let's see how let's see how he brought
Speaker 2: something original.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think part of the promise he's he's too nice.
Speaker 5: He like every time he works with an actor, they
Speaker 5: get along. So now he has casts like thirty eight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like it. I don't know, And what do
Speaker 1: you think you should do in this part?
Speaker 4: A third narrator.
Speaker 2: I like that comforting aspect of you know what you're
Speaker 2: gonna get with a Wes Anderson.
Speaker 7: Maybe there's a certain comfort.
Speaker 3: I found it very comforting.
Speaker 1: I just yeah, I was frustrated with like one aspect
Speaker 1: of it, and I'm making that be like and that's
Speaker 1: why it sucked, which is definitely not true.
Speaker 2: It's fun, a pendifically pleasant film, and it's all it is.
Speaker 1: The thing I go to Wes Anderson movies for is
Speaker 1: like a esthetic, Like he creates a very good, like
Speaker 1: specific aesthetic, and this one he does an amazing job
Speaker 1: of creating like a very specific, like we've never seen
Speaker 1: desert storybook weird Wes Anderson, and like this is a
Speaker 1: fun execution of that for sure.
Speaker 6: This one felt the most like Texas to his roots.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in my opinion, the part where Juughhead has to
Speaker 1: cut that alien oft is the alien and it was
Speaker 1: so weird.
Speaker 5: Oh man, Betty's mom gets into a cult and the
Speaker 5: cult leader escapes in a rocket ship.
Speaker 8: It's crazy, nothing like it, that's what that happens.
Speaker 6: And the leader is Chad Michael Murray.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, guys got the perfect transition into our streaming review,
Speaker 1: which is coming next next week. But for us, we're
Speaker 1: going to stop this recording and move right over to there.
Speaker 1: So that's going to do it. Thank you guys so
Speaker 1: much for joining Victor.
Speaker 3: JM.
Speaker 1: Bryan Becta, Anna, what a lineup? Anything anything we missed?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, JM. You were you wanted to call out
Speaker 1: all the period sects that was happening, like you just
Speaker 1: you said, if there's one thing, I have to call
Speaker 1: this out. So you said you had like a tight
Speaker 1: twenty minutes on period sect.
Speaker 5: Yeah, everybody buckle up, okay, forget Barbenheimer. Yeah, no, it
Speaker 5: just happened in two movies, and yeah.
Speaker 1: It did feel like it's time had come when I
Speaker 1: saw it in fair Play, which was a movie that
Speaker 1: I wasn't crazy about, but it we covered on the
Speaker 1: show because it was like written by somebody who was
Speaker 1: like a writing in the tradition of fatal attraction and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. But when it happened to that, I
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, yeah, why hasn't.
Speaker 3: That happened in more movies? That was that was fun.
Speaker 3: It's a good job, good job by them.
Speaker 5: It may happen in more movies too. I haven't seen
Speaker 5: Wonky yet.
Speaker 6: We just don't know.
Speaker 1: We don't know and there's no way to know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, that's gonna do it. Or the Year in movies.
Speaker 1: We are back with more year end episodes and we
Speaker 1: will see you guys then bye bye,