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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Well Cowboys, this is

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Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys, springing live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters.

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Speaker 2: At the Star in Frisco.

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Speaker 1: Puts take Burgers here plus dot Tis twenty touchdown and now.

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Speaker 3: Your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez, and Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 1: It is the Monday after a twenty seven point outing

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Speaker 1: from your offense, but a thirty point outing from your defense.

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Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys fall to the Carolina Panthers thirty to

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Speaker 1: twenty seven in Week six of the NFL season. Welcome

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Speaker 1: into Talking Cowboys, presented by Black Rifle Coffee Company, the

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Speaker 1: official coffee of the Dallas Cowboy. We're gonna talk about it.

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Speaker 1: What happened on the East Coast. Both of these guys

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Speaker 1: were there, Patrick no Cy Walker, Tommy Yarsh, We've got

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Speaker 1: Chris beat in the back.

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Speaker 2: He was there as well. I'm Kyle Yeoman.

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Speaker 1: So glad you're with us, and thank you for tuning

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Speaker 1: in the Monday after because I know it's always frustrating

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Speaker 1: following the Cowboys loss to listen to Cowboys content. I

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Speaker 1: understand I'm a born and raised Cowboys fan. I grew

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Speaker 1: up cheering for this team, and when they lose, I

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Speaker 1: am in a worse mood.

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Speaker 4: That's just plain and simple things.

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Speaker 1: You can ask my family. You can ask my parents,

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Speaker 1: my wife. You can't ask my kids yet because they

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Speaker 1: can't tell you, but at some point they will. They're aware,

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Speaker 1: they are aware, and this was just another of two

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Speaker 1: straight losses. Let's just say that the last two losses

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Speaker 1: have been in the embarrassing category, and this is a

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Speaker 1: second one. In that case, nothing against the Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 1: Their game plan was there, their execution was there. All

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Speaker 1: the flowers in the world. Rico Dwell he stood on business,

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Speaker 1: and I commend him for doing that. A team that

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Speaker 1: did not stand on business is currently here.

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Speaker 2: In Dallas and their nickname is the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: So with all that being said, Patrick, I'll open the

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Speaker 1: floor to you, Cowboys fall thirty to twenty seven, your

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Speaker 1: thoughts from being there on site at Bank of America Stadium.

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Speaker 4: You know, Beemer.

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Speaker 3: We might as well just title this this episode wasted. Wasted.

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Speaker 3: You had a career record center GTA, Yeah, yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 3: So when you play GTA. For those that don't know

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Speaker 3: grand theft auto. When you meet your demise, what pops

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Speaker 3: up on the screen is wasted. Appreciate That's exactly the

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Speaker 3: vibes right now, exactly the vibes. You wasted a career

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Speaker 3: record setting performance from George Pickens. He now has six

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Speaker 3: touchdowns through the first six games, first NFL player in

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Speaker 3: a Cowboys uniform to do that since the merger who

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Speaker 3: was not named Daz Briant. You wasted Hunter Lipke's first

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Speaker 3: career touchdown. You wasted contributions from Jake Ferguson and Ryan Flanoy.

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Speaker 3: You wasted a three touchdown zero interception effort from Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 3: You wasted an opportunity to go for go ahead touchdown

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Speaker 3: with two passes behind the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 4: We will get to that later. You wasted an opportunity

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Speaker 3: And four to get the ball back for a mulligain

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Speaker 3: on your offensive side and a possible game winning drive.

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Speaker 3: You wasted a chance to gain ground on the Eagles

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Speaker 3: in the division after they lost to the New York Giants.

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Speaker 3: You made everyone want to go home and pull a

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Speaker 3: full Gucci man and get wasted.

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Speaker 5: Ah.

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Speaker 3: So, however you slice it, that is the vibes today.

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Speaker 3: Yesterday's game was one the Cowboys should have won, and

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Speaker 3: should have won handily, but they constantly allowed the Panthers

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Speaker 4: That was the highlight of the day for the defense.

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Speaker 4: You need it more.

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Speaker 3: They couldn't stop the run. You said, Rico, he stood

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Speaker 3: on business. Cowboys were unbuckled. Hmmm, completely. They did not

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Speaker 4: They did not buckle up. Rico had a day.

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Speaker 3: Now he is now the first NFL player that has

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Speaker 3: gone that went undrafted in the history of the league

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Speaker 3: to have back to back two hundred plus scrimmage yards games.

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Speaker 3: So the Cowboys will forever be tied to Rico Dawdle

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 3: So, yeah, wasted, just like GTA five and just like

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Speaker 7: Well, you know, you guys mentioned that you're both Cowboys fans.

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Speaker 7: I'm the only one at this table that's not a

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Speaker 8: I don't really root for anybody. I just cover the sports. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: That was bad.

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Speaker 8: That was very bad. I mean, I think Patrick hit

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Speaker 8: the nail on the head for most of it. You know, you.

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Speaker 7: Essentially, what we figured out about this team six games

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Speaker 7: perfect football and score on just about every possession, they're

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Speaker 7: Prescott and Brian Schottenheimer and everybody who was trying to

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Speaker 7: the offense did not help themselves by not establishing the

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Speaker 7: think it started up front. I think Javonte Williams had

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Speaker 7: credit Carolina their defensive front, Derek Brown. Those guys did

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Speaker 7: a really good job of nullifying a lot that Dallas

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Speaker 8: So it was difficult.

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Speaker 7: And then obviously, you know, defensively, I mean, Bryce Young

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Speaker 8: Down in the last two weeks. So props to Rico.

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Speaker 8: I always enjoyed Rico when he was here. Happy for him.

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Speaker 7: I mean, that's that's super super cool to see him,

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Speaker 7: you know, do that after I think very evidently by

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Speaker 7: you know, he felt disrespected when the Cowboys said, hey,

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Speaker 7: we we maybe like this Drafonte Williams guy over you.

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Speaker 7: Was that the right decision? I guess we can we

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Speaker 7: he didn't have a great game. But you know, you

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Speaker 7: look at the NFL leading rushers and man, how fast

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Speaker 8: Let me, I'm trying to see exactly how long, but uh,

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Speaker 7: Already third now by he's four yards by Javonte Williams

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Speaker 8: So Gretto Rico, he's.

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Speaker 7: Playing really well and Carolina is a team that was

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Speaker 7: think about how wildly different the outlook for this season

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Speaker 7: like you mentioned, so this is a game that they

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Speaker 7: needed to win. I mean every game he needed to

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Speaker 7: may have the most parody that this league has had

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Speaker 7: Dak Prescott was talking about it.

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Speaker 8: Ever of the game.

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Speaker 7: Any given Sunday, any team can beat another team, and

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Speaker 7: it's it's what makes this game super fun. But for

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Speaker 7: Cowboys fans, it's understandable to watch a lot of what

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Speaker 8: Just can't, you can't let some of this happen.

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Speaker 1: It also makes this game extremely frustrating, and that's why

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Speaker 1: Patrick's holding up a sign that says this is why

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Speaker 1: my other sign exists talking about the one that says

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Speaker 1: this does not imply that the Cowboys will win the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. All of that being said, I think you

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Speaker 1: pointed it out great. Dallas did not establish a run,

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Speaker 1: so it's not all on the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 1: I thought Ashawn Robinson dominated the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: Derek Brown dominated the offensive line. We kind of expected

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Speaker 1: Brown to do so, but Robinson was a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a shock. The offensive line gets two of their

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Speaker 1: starters back, Tyler Guyton, Tyler Smith. The left side of

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Speaker 2: They didn't have a great game. They did not play well.

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Speaker 1: The offensive line struggled to set the ground game initially,

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Speaker 2: The block for Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 1: Dak had to escape a couple different times to allow

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Speaker 1: like that pocket collapsed quick, yep, and he was able

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Speaker 1: to still make a play. Dak is playing extremely good football,

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Speaker 1: extremely good. I don't want to put a tag on

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Speaker 1: at the MVP caliber stuff. We'll talk about that as

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Speaker 1: we keep going. But to harp on that every week

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Speaker 1: is one thing, But to just say you're playing good football.

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Speaker 6: He is.

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Speaker 1: He's playing tremendous football, and for him not to have

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Speaker 1: a winning record at this point in the season is

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Speaker 1: extremely disheartening.

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Speaker 3: We'll give you some stats that back that 'll wasted, okay,

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Speaker 3: since starts were first treck This is via Todd Archers

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Speaker 3: Shots Talk. Since starts were first trecked in nineteen fifty,

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Speaker 3: Dak Prescott is the first quarterback to have eleven or

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Speaker 3: more total touchdowns with zero turnovers and a non winning

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Speaker 3: record over a three start span. M GB not great, Bob,

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Speaker 3: don't give you one more. Dak Prescott in his last

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Speaker 3: three games seventy four to one oh three, seventy two

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Speaker 3: completion percentage, eight hundred and seventeen passing yards, ten touchdown,

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Speaker 3: ten passing touchdowns, with one rushing touchdown, no interceptions. Dallas

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Speaker 3: has scored one hundred and four points in those three games.

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Speaker 3: They won, one lost, one tied one defense. What the

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Speaker 3: hell are you doing out there? Hell are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a it's a frustrating scenario. Like I said, though,

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Speaker 1: it's not all on the defense. The offense did not.

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Speaker 2: Play well from it, not all round games from the

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Speaker 4: It's on the coaching as well. With that.

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Speaker 3: As much as we love shot, he's play calling. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that last offensive position, it was bad.

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Speaker 8: Terrible, it was bad.

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Speaker 4: To stop it.

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Speaker 1: The I want to talk about the defense though, because

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Speaker 1: as much as I want to harp that the passing

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Speaker 1: game was working, George Pickens was great, Jake Ferguson made

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Speaker 1: an impact. Again, you still don't have Cede Lamb or

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Speaker 1: Cavante Turpin and you were still able to move the

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Speaker 2: They were offensive line zero.

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Speaker 4: Where is the blame not placed.

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Speaker 3: it was such a mercurial game for Donovan Wilson. You

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter if there was pressure back there or not.

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Speaker 4: But that goes to what you myself, Josh and Isaiah

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Speaker 1: You're talking about when Donovan sank down. When he sank down, See,

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Speaker 4: We'll go back and look at it. Either way it was.

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Speaker 3: I thought he was sinking on that en route, sinking

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Speaker 2: Make a tackle. As a turning back around and trying to.

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Speaker 3: Cover goes back to the to talking Cowboys. His main

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Speaker 3: asking him to cover, but he's eternally going to want

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Speaker 3: So that's example of the secondary lack of pass rush

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Speaker 3: Bryce Young, Dad, the rights take you take Bryce Young

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Speaker 3: down on that play. It's no touchdown, but you didn't

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Speaker 3: he side step. He steps into a throw tech McMillan

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Speaker 7: I should say, I think you're right, But in my opinion,

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Speaker 7: to lose. Yeah, that's what the Cowboys are doing right now.

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Speaker 8: In the run game.

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Speaker 7: The last coming into this week, they were third. They

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Speaker 7: know the in this game, they only had two run

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Speaker 7: If your nigkel corner has half of your run stuffs

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Speaker 8: That's not good. It's not good.

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Speaker 7: they've kind of reverted back to okay. They're just not

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Speaker 8: And so you start with that.

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Speaker 7: And if you can't stop the run in today's NFL,

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Speaker 7: And why do they have all day to throw? Because

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Speaker 8: I really don't think it would be. I don't think

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Speaker 7: They have a better pass rush, absolutely, and does that

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Speaker 7: fix some of the problems. It doesn't matter if Freakodal

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Speaker 8: It doesn't. It just doesn't.

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Speaker 7: get pressure on a quarterback, it doesn't matter if you're

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Speaker 7: playing Bryce Young or whoever the quarterback is at South

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Speaker 2: He's pretty good quarterback.

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Speaker 8: They're undfeet Is he really there?

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Speaker 7: You go shout to Riley Dodge because that's on hundred

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Speaker 8: Why did why did that work?

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Speaker 7: Well, they didn't stop the run particularly well, but they

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Speaker 8: Those sacks, they had five sacks and they had one

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Speaker 3: The utilization piece is just going to bug me to

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Speaker 4: So that's the stillest.

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Speaker 1: If you're going to the sticks, you're going to the sticks,

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Speaker 2: I've got I've got a text thread and talk to him, Barry.

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Speaker 2: I know what would be fine with me? Yeah, we'd

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Speaker 4: To cover Murray taken after year of.

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Speaker 2: And that was before he backed out. Then he backed down.

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Speaker 4: I think that get there that play.

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Speaker 3: Everything you described is a microcosm of what's wrong with

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Speaker 7: second when he's reading Bryce Young's eyes and then he

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Speaker 7: breaks to try and break that pass up.

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Speaker 8: That was the difference.

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Speaker 7: And look, Kenneth Murray, it's a tough position to be

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Speaker 7: in because it is his assignment to step into the

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Speaker 7: middle of the field. And when Deron Bland is playing,

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Speaker 7: as Patrick said, a million yards off the line of scrimmage,

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Speaker 7: you're almost begging the offense to throw a quick slant

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Speaker 7: there right That ball's getting out quick and you're just

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Speaker 7: trying to get him because he's got that cushion because

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Speaker 7: the linebackers playing on the opposite side of where he's

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Speaker 7: lined up, so he's got a cross. Essentially, the entire

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Speaker 7: middle of the field, hash to hash in order to

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Speaker 7: get there. If it's oh man, I don't anybody in

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Speaker 7: Kenneth Murray's plays, any linebacker on this team, No one's

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Speaker 7: getting there. They don't have the personnel where they can

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Speaker 7: rely on somebody to cross the field and that much time.

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Speaker 8: Unless debarve on Over was.

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Speaker 2: Going to there's one he's not on the acting. He's

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Speaker 2: got to be one hundred percent.

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Speaker 7: He's got to be one hundred percent and he's still

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Speaker 7: probably got to get his arm out and dive to

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Speaker 7: break up that pass because that got out quick.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, but he's still got to get there pretty damp.

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Speaker 7: So it's it's disappointing because you know that that's a

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Speaker 7: play where it should be there, and you know you wonder, Okay,

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Speaker 7: if Bland lines up a little bit closer, can he

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Speaker 7: get over and try to knock something away. Well, then

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Speaker 7: you risk the pass interference part of it, and they

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Speaker 7: were throwing quite a bit of passing reference penalties out yesterday.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, maybe maybe we can get some explanation later

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Speaker 7: on on that play. But it looks like that's one

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Speaker 7: where there's once again flames spread across the board because

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Speaker 7: guys are.

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Speaker 8: Not putting in his position to succeed.

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Speaker 7: And it goes back to here Donovan Wilson talk. I

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Speaker 7: don't think Donovan Wilson's been putting in this position to

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Speaker 7: succeed a lot because they're asking him to cover more

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Speaker 7: often than not. Donovan Wilson should not have as many

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Speaker 7: coverage responsibilities as he has. Should Is he going to

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Speaker 7: get some naturally? Yeah, you play safety, you're going to, right,

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Speaker 7: But this is a guy.

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Speaker 4: Who is a box safety.

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Speaker 7: Good at yeah, plenty of the box and going up

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Speaker 7: and hitting people. And when you're asking him to make

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Speaker 7: decisions on okay, do I need to cover the double

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Speaker 8: And it's just not his game. It's really not.

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Speaker 7: And so it's there's a lot of guys who are

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Speaker 7: seeing a lot of the issues that you're seeing.

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Speaker 1: I want to take our first break when we come back.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask a question generated by the fans.

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Speaker 4: Back my teeth a problems?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Back with Patrick No, there's a lot.

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Speaker 1: I got you, Tommy Arrish, Chris Beam in the back

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Speaker 1: of Kyle Yeomans. This is kind of interesting. You know

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Speaker 1: how like YouTube does their like auto like they do

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Speaker 1: their AI chat summary. Yeah, first pop on I've never

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Speaker 1: seen it before, and it drops down and it says,

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Speaker 1: like what the.

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Speaker 2: Chat is talking about.

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Speaker 1: I happen to like catch up glimpse of it, and

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Speaker 1: I took a screenshot of it.

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Speaker 2: This is kind of funny.

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Speaker 1: It just completely summarized Cowboys social media over the last

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Speaker 1: twenty four hours in one AI blurb, the entire state

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Speaker 1: of the Cowboys fan base on social media has been

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Speaker 1: completely summarized. This is the chat summary from YouTube. Viewers

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Speaker 1: in the chat are expressing disappointment with the Cowboys performers,

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Speaker 1: particularly the defense, with some calling for the defensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: to be fired. Some viewers are blaming Dak, while others

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Speaker 1: defend him, and some are mentioning Jerry Jones.

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Speaker 8: It'd summarize the last like three years too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it very well could be, especially without naming the

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator position. It could certainly be the case. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: good job AI YouTube chat summaries.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of interesting. How you just summed it all up.

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Speaker 1: But there has been a lot of talk about what

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Speaker 1: to do next on the defensive side of the football.

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Speaker 1: Is there need for a change when it comes to

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Speaker 1: the coordinator position this early in the season. Remember we're

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Speaker 1: six games in, We're a third of the way through.

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Speaker 1: Is there a change for personnel? Do you make a trade?

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Speaker 1: Do you go and get something from wherever you can?

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Speaker 1: Is this team close enough to do either one of

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Speaker 1: those things? And so do you write it out and

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Speaker 1: just hope it gets better with injuries and guys that

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Speaker 1: are returning from injury. That being the case, there's options

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Speaker 1: here for the Dallas Cowboys. Where would you start if

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Speaker 1: you were in the GM shoes?

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Speaker 3: Patrick noci Walk putn't my gmcap one first and foremost.

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Speaker 3: I am absolutely entertaining a trade of some Just to

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Speaker 3: remind everyone, we're not permitted to say names of players

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Speaker 3: that cannot actually obligate it to other teams because it's fewed,

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Speaker 3: it's tampering. But I would absolutely go in trade. You're

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Speaker 3: two three and one right now. Is the season completely lost?

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Speaker 11: No?

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Speaker 3: But it's on the verge of it. It's like we

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Speaker 3: were talking about before we went hot on the first segment.

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Speaker 3: You're on the verge of it. You drop this game

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Speaker 3: to the commanders, who knows what happened happens against the Broncos.

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Speaker 3: So now is the time if you're going to make

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Speaker 3: a change to the personnel, because as it stands, your returnees,

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Speaker 3: notwithstanding which Demo is a he's like the warhead they're

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Speaker 3: hoping returns here soon, and he will return soon. We'll

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Speaker 3: see if that's early mid November, which is my prediction,

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Speaker 3: but that's just me. So, yeah, you get the warhead back,

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Speaker 3: but you know, does he need some grace to get

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Speaker 3: back to one hundred percent to be able to make

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Speaker 3: the play that Murray was unable to make in that situation.

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Speaker 4: We'll see.

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Speaker 3: But you can't solely depend on DeMar Fion Overshown coming

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Speaker 3: back from injured reserve. So for me, I'm going to

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Speaker 3: make a trade. That's my GM CAP personnel changes. You

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Speaker 3: made a personnel change yesterday that I floated on the

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Speaker 3: show two or three weeks ago when Deron Blank came back.

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Speaker 3: You made that change. Trevon Diggs is on the outside,

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Speaker 3: Darn Bland is on the outside. Ready Stewart is at

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Speaker 3: your nickel, yep. So you granted me that. Thank you

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Speaker 3: didn't much help yesterday, but you know you granted me that.

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Speaker 3: From the defensive interior, you brought in Kenny Clark, you

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Speaker 3: sat Mazie again, so you're figuring things out.

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Speaker 2: Kenny Clark had his worst game of he did.

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Speaker 4: The defensive interior didn't have a great game.

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Speaker 2: You didn't play well.

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Speaker 4: Gass rushers didn't have a great game.

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Speaker 1: The one part of this defense that all season long

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Speaker 1: Weight said was consistent and better than everybody else ended

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Speaker 1: up having their worst.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I hate to say this, but this

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Speaker 3: is where we are, man, And I'm laughing while I'm

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Speaker 3: about to say it, And the chat's going to go

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Speaker 3: crazy when I say it, because so not only would

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Speaker 3: I trade for maybe some linebackers sistance, you gotta get a.

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Speaker 2: Pass rust to get an edge.

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Speaker 4: You got to get an edge thrussure man. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: they traded away Michael Parsons. And you know me, I've

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Speaker 4: not been on that.

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Speaker 3: Like once it happened, it is like, all right, let's

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Speaker 3: just kind of move on now that we moved on

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Speaker 3: from that happening. Because nothing wipes up that spilled milk.

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Speaker 3: You can at least acknowledge the error in that there

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Speaker 3: is the pass rush. You need pass rush, so I

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Speaker 3: go trade for a linebacker, I trade for a paths rusher.

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Speaker 3: As far as that's the GM cap, the owner cap,

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Speaker 3: I don't think they make a change right now with DC.

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Speaker 3: I think they see enough from their perview. This is

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Speaker 3: not me speaking from their perview. I think they see

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Speaker 3: enough positive with the scheme. And like you said, some

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Speaker 3: of this is.

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Speaker 4: Accountable to the players, absolutely right.

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Speaker 3: So because of that ladder point that a part of

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Speaker 3: that sentence, I think it buys Eberflus more time. I

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Speaker 3: think shot he wants to give Eberflus this entire season.

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Speaker 3: He wants to see it work out. Now ask me

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Speaker 3: this question at the end of the year. If it

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Speaker 3: continues as it is and then it starts to smell

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Speaker 3: like a Mike Nolan situation, yeah, it.

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Speaker 2: Very easily could.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you on that since but I'll

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Speaker 2: get to my point here in a minute, Tommy.

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Speaker 8: So let me ask you this.

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Speaker 7: Guys, when we talk about windows for championships in Super

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Speaker 7: Bowls and things like that, sure, usually your window gets

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Speaker 7: opened when you stack together some really good drafts, and

665
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Speaker 7: in recent history it's been some really good drafts, one

666
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Speaker 7: of which you get your rookie quarterback, and you're paying

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Speaker 7: a rookie quarterback. Well, right now, the Cowboys have got

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Speaker 7: Dak Prescott's their window is a little bit different, and

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Speaker 7: he's playing at such a high level that you want

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Speaker 7: to be able to maximize that. So he's got three

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Speaker 7: years left after is it three years or two years

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Speaker 7: after this year?

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Speaker 8: Three years after this year?

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Speaker 7: So three years left on his deal after this year.

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Speaker 7: You've got two first round picks in the next two drafts.

676
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Speaker 7: And you should never tank. I'm not a fan of tanking,

677
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Speaker 7: and it's not a thing like, it's not something that

678
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Speaker 7: you should do.

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Speaker 8: You play to win the game.

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Speaker 7: But when you have that draft capital that is so valuable,

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Speaker 7: and you were willing to move off of an all

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Speaker 7: world pass rusher to obtain that draft capital, I think

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Speaker 7: you use it with the long term in mind, and

684
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Speaker 7: you want to maximize on that window. Right So I

685
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Speaker 7: understand your point of making a trade for right now,

686
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Speaker 7: and again the season has not lost.

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Speaker 4: A two three, you have extra picks from that, and

688
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Speaker 4: you have extra.

689
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Speaker 7: Picks, But I don't think there is a single player

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Speaker 7: that you can trade for right now, even two or

691
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 7: three players that would wildly change the landscape of this defense.

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Speaker 7: I really just don't think there are that many that

693
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Speaker 7: would take this from a unit that has been basically

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Speaker 7: dead last in terms of yards allowed per game to

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Speaker 7: all of a sudden, you know, Okay, this is going

696
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Speaker 7: to be a even a top half of the NFL defense.

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Speaker 7: I just don't think they're there right now. I don't

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Speaker 7: think they have the personnel for that. So I think

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Speaker 7: you have to kind of mix the long term shot

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Speaker 7: with the present, and there's gonna be some things where

701
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Speaker 7: either way you're going to just have to live with

702
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Speaker 7: what you got, but you have to build towards the future.

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Speaker 7: And the good thing about this team is they have

704
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Speaker 7: drafted fairly well compared to other teams.

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Speaker 8: Sure, you're going to have your missus here and there,

706
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Speaker 8: You're never not you.

707
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Speaker 2: Need more contributions from your current but you need.

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Speaker 8: More contributions from your current class.

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Speaker 7: And if you're going to use those two first round

710
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Speaker 7: picks in the next two years, boy do those four

711
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Speaker 7: guys have to hit or two or three of the

712
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Speaker 7: four pretty quickly.

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Speaker 8: And so you know, what are they going to do?

714
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Speaker 8: Who knows?

715
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Speaker 7: I'm with Patrick and I'm sure you stand the same, Kyle.

716
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Speaker 7: I don't think they're going to move on from Mattiberflus.

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Speaker 8: It just doesn't. That's not going to fix anything. That's

718
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Speaker 8: not going to fix anything because.

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Speaker 7: Right now, who else so you can what's the interim

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Speaker 7: going to change that isn't already an issue? So I

721
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Speaker 7: don't think that's the I don't think that's the solution.

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Speaker 7: I think this is really more of the personnel right

723
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Speaker 7: now is not where it needs to be to have

724
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Speaker 7: an league defense.

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Speaker 8: I just don't think it is.

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Speaker 4: All you need is this defense to be mid.

727
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Speaker 8: They don't even need to be great. They need to

728
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Speaker 8: be a.

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Speaker 3: If they're just mid, you you're probably you're over five

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Speaker 3: hundred if they're just mid.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And that's where my point comes in. I agree with

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Speaker 1: everything that you guys have just said. First, let me

734
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Speaker 1: just start off by saying, if we thought ibra Flus

735
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Speaker 1: was going to be moved on from, or that he

736
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Speaker 1: deserved to be moved on from, we are allowed to

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Speaker 1: say that on the show. I just want to let

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Speaker 1: that be clear. We can talk that before we've absolutely

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Speaker 1: absolutely Mike Nolan's won. Mike Zimmer was another one. Mike

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Speaker 1: McCarthy that conversation. We've talked about it, Yeah, we've we've

741
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Speaker 1: had that that ability to.

742
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Speaker 2: Talk about that stuff all, which is it's not going

743
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Speaker 2: to happen.

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Speaker 1: It's not gonna happen, and I don't think it should

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Speaker 1: happen right this secon It's week six, guys, Week six

746
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Speaker 1: of the NFL season. So don't expect it to happen

747
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: next week or the week after or the week after.

748
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Speaker 1: Don't expect it, honestly before the end of the season.

749
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Speaker 1: Unless the season's out of reach and you are out

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Speaker 1: of playoff contention and your team is one of the

751
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Speaker 1: worst defensively in the in the league, which very could,

752
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: very well could happen, then you can maybe talk about

753
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Speaker 1: it because then you're moving on.

754
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Speaker 2: You're not giving up.

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Speaker 1: They're not giving up on the season yet, So Mattyberflues

756
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: will remain your defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 4: That's just part of it.

758
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Speaker 1: What happened, you guys, remember what happened on August twenty

759
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Speaker 1: eighth of this year of this year. Isn't that the

760
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Speaker 1: that's the mic that was the Mica trade. Since that day,

761
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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys acquired a couple of first round picks. Right,

762
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Speaker 1: I've said, hold on to those picks, use them from

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Speaker 1: a draft standpoint, Yes, you have and build toward twenty six,

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Speaker 1: twenty seven, twenty eight.

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Speaker 4: That's the draft show, and you're talking.

766
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Speaker 2: I love the NFL Draft, I love the Draft show.

767
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Speaker 1: I love all of that.

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Speaker 2: I'm super excited about those first round picks.

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Speaker 1: I would love to draft those first round picks because

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Speaker 1: your team's good enough to have those first round.

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Speaker 2: Picks and still be in contention. But kind of what

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Speaker 2: Tommy just said.

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Speaker 1: The window of opportunity a lot of times coincides with

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Speaker 1: the window of how your quarterback is playing, and the

775
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Speaker 1: window of what your quarterback is playing right now is

776
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Speaker 1: the best that it's ever been. Dak Prescott is playing

777
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: his best football of his career, and just like Patrick

778
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: said in the open, you're wasting it. You're wasting this

779
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: opportunity with Dak Prescott and an offense around him with weapons.

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Speaker 1: George Pickens, Mike Oh, George Pickens is just playing at

781
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Speaker 1: an extremely high level and he doesn't even have Ceedee

782
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: Lamb opposite of him. Ceedee Lamb's coming back. He's going

783
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: to be fine. Jake Ferguson is the leading tight end

784
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: receiving or leading receiving tight end in the NFL. Right now,

785
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: you have the top tight end, you have one of

786
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 1: the most explosive players, and you have an elite wide

787
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: receiver and a quarterback that's playing in an MVP caliber level.

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Speaker 1: I don't need this defense to be top three or four.

789
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Speaker 1: I don't need them to be top three or four

790
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Speaker 1: of the NFL, and I don't think they can get there.

791
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: They could trade for two All pros and they're probably

792
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: not there. But what you can do is make some

793
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: conservative effort to improve the personnel on the defensive side

794
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: of the football and get them to a point where

795
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Speaker 1: they are serviceable. That's what I'm asking for. You don't

796
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: need to trade for an All Pro. You don't need

797
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: to spin those first round picks, though. If the opportunity

798
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Speaker 1: is there and the price is right, then come on down.

799
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Speaker 1: Let's try and get a little All Pro. Let's go

800
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: Bob Barker, Let's go Drew whatever carry is and whatever

801
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: his name is, Drew Carrey. I would be fine trading

802
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: those picks now, more so than ever, just because I've

803
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: seen how elite this offense is and you are so

804
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: close on the offensive side. You just got to get

805
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: closer on the defensive side, close that gap a little bit,

806
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: and I think this is a football team that with

807
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: a wide open division, can win the division and make

808
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: some noise because of how elite they are on the

809
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: offensive side. Defense win championships, but so do elite offenses.

810
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: We've seen that in the modern day.

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Speaker 2: NFL too. Got to find a way to make them

812
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 2: better because right now it's not working.

813
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 4: Welcome to the Welcome to the trade party.

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Speaker 2: I'm here, but I'm here. Let's make something happen.

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Speaker 7: I think I think you have a good point there,

816
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 7: and and I wouldn't mind trading draft capital for sure

817
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 7: better players.

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00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

819
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 7: Again, though, if you're going to trade, if you're going

820
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Speaker 7: to trade one of those, or even both of those,

821
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Speaker 7: let's let's.

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Speaker 2: Hold on one of them.

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00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 7: Well, if you're if you're gonna say, say, trade one

824
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,439
Speaker 7: for one elite player and there for another elite player,

825
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Speaker 7: I really just do not think will it make a difference.

826
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 7: Absolutely will take this defense from good to maybe mediocre.

827
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: Sure, probably that's all I think you need. That that's

828
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: to a degree.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, But if we are talking about the goal being

830
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Speaker 7: winning a super Bowl, I don't think that's enough. I

831
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 7: think you need to have both an elite offense and

832
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Speaker 7: an elite defense in today's NFL, because you look at

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Speaker 7: I think you do.

834
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Speaker 8: You look at the Kansas City Chiefs.

835
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Speaker 7: They've got an elite quarterback, and they've got a defense

836
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 7: that plays really well under Steve Spagnol with elite players everywhere.

837
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 2: Solid.

838
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 7: You look at Philadelphia Eagles, they have an elite offense,

839
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 7: maybe not this year, and an elite defense that has

840
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 7: playmakers everywhere.

841
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 8: If that's what we're.

842
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 7: Comparing this to, and that's what history has shown in

843
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 7: recent years that is necessary to win a Super Bowl,

844
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,720
Speaker 7: Cowboys don't have that, and I don't think two trades

845
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 7: would necessarily change that, and.

846
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 8: It very rarely would it, very rarely would it.

847
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 7: Are there players out there that you trade a first

848
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 7: round pick or whatever to help this defense?

849
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 8: Absolutely, the bar is not very high.

850
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Speaker 1: So with that mindset, and I don't think you're entirely wrong,

851
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 1: you have to be better. I just think this offense

852
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: is good enough to carry the load. That's all I'm saying. Sure,

853
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: But if we're going to go by that mentality and

854
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: we're that conversation, let's start trading players. Let's throw in

855
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:00,439
Speaker 1: the towel here in a couple of weeks, if things

856
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: don't go your way and Washington or against Washington in Denver,

857
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: you go into the bye week and you're what two

858
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Speaker 1: five and one at that point, Let's go ahead, Let's

859
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Speaker 1: let's start building toward that time. Let's start building toward

860
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Speaker 1: twenty six, twenty seven, twenty eight, because you have the

861
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Speaker 1: draft capitlo already. Let's just scrap this thing and get going, because,

862
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: like you said initially, with the current window that Dak

863
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: Prescott is playing in, it's whoever you're drafting in those

864
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: first round opportunities is either going to have to hit

865
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Speaker 1: immediately or it's going to be a quarterback playing.

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Speaker 2: That's just part of it. And then Dak's career at

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Speaker 2: that point will be in.

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Speaker 4: The rearview mirror.

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Speaker 3: So here's here's my counter point, and this is why

870
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Speaker 3: I shook my head, Tommy. I don't think, well, it

871
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 3: would be ideal, goes what I was saying. It will

872
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 3: be ideal for you to be able to build a

873
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,720
Speaker 3: situation where you have an elite defense and an elite offense.

874
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Speaker 3: Every NFL team, that's what that's the goal, that's the goal.

875
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 3: But not every Super Bowl winner has that. So then

876
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 3: you go and look at each respective Super Bowl winning

877
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 3: you ask yourself which side of the ball won them

878
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. Okay, there are situations where if you

879
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 3: have an elite defense, then your offense can be just average,

880
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 3: slightly above average, just do enough, and it's the end

881
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 3: versus true as well. So if this situation where dak

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Speaker 3: is playing out of his mind and George Pickens is

883
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Speaker 3: playing out of his mind and Seedy Land when he

884
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Speaker 3: comes back, gets back to playing out of his mind,

885
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Speaker 3: and yesterday's game against the Panthers, notwithstanding Javonte Williams and

886
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Speaker 3: the rushing attack gets back on treasures your offense. We

887
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Speaker 3: can all agree that your offense is elite. What you

888
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Speaker 3: need from your defense is to be average to slightly

889
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Speaker 3: above average. But in that you need takeaways. Yes, you

890
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Speaker 3: have to get takeaways. You can't be so this is

891
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Speaker 3: where I agree with you. You can't simply be average

892
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Speaker 3: to slightly above average and that's it. You have to

893
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 3: be slightly above average but have splash plays. The Cowboys

894
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Speaker 3: defense is not only poor right now and the worst

895
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Speaker 3: in the league just generally speaking, in several major categories

896
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Speaker 3: and most of that matter, they're also the worst in

897
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Speaker 3: league and splash plays and taking them ball away and

898
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Speaker 3: giving up splash and giving.

899
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Speaker 4: Up splash plays. So look at the spectrum. Look at

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Speaker 4: the spectrum.

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Speaker 3: You're giving up a bunch of explosive plays, but you're

902
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 3: not generating explosive plays on your side of the ball either.

903
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 3: It's it's a recipe for disaster and that's what we're seeing.

904
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Speaker 3: So this Cowboys team or just just strip it away

905
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Speaker 3: because people are going to take what I'm about to say.

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Speaker 4: So, oh, you know, see you're saying the Cowboys can.

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Speaker 2: That's not what I'm saying now, And that's not what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying either.

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Speaker 3: Let's say any NFL team, any NFL team, any of

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Speaker 3: the thirty two. You can win a Super Bowl with

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Speaker 3: an elite offense and an average to slightly above average defense,

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Speaker 3: as long as that defense is doing two things. One

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Speaker 3: limiting explosive plays, which by definition makes you slightly above

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Speaker 3: average or better, and creating explosive plays with takeaways and

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Speaker 3: force fumbles. You put that together, that can win you

916
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Speaker 3: a Super Bowl. It doesn't have to be elite plus elite.

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Speaker 4: That's ideal. That's what everybody wants.

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Speaker 1: I want to hear it Tommy's rebuttal after the break.

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Speaker 1: We gotta go to the break Tommy's rebuttal when we

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Speaker 1: Backyard Talking Cowboys following the thirty to twenty seven loss

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Speaker 1: to the Carolina Panthers, Patrick Nocy, Walker, Tommy Yarish, Chris

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Speaker 1: Beam in the back. I'm Kyle Yeomans. We are debating

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Speaker 1: what to do next. If you're the Dallas Cowboys. Do

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Speaker 1: you trade for prospects to try and get your defense

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Speaker 1: close enough to being at a serviceable or even above

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Speaker 1: average level. Do you let it ride with the draft

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Speaker 1: you're going and figure out it down the line, which

979
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Speaker 1: is probably what's ultimately gonna happen. But Tommy Patrick had

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Speaker 1: just given his thoughts, I want you to rebuttle here.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think you know.

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00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 7: Part of the reason why all of us are agreeing

983
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 7: with so many different aspects of what we're all saying

984
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Speaker 7: is because there is no concrete answer or solution to

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00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 7: this right now, really just going off of what history

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00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 7: has shown us recently, and because everybody had the answer

987
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Speaker 7: everybody be winning super Bowls, but look, I think that

988
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 7: you need to have a really strong presence on both

989
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 7: sides of the football more often than not to be

990
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Speaker 7: able to win you Super Bowl. And it's not always

991
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 7: because teams have done without that. I think the prime

992
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 7: example of that, and I'm apologizing in advance to Cowboys fans,

993
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 7: is the twenty twenty three Cowboys.

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Speaker 8: Because Dak Prescott on the offense, they're playing at an

995
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 8: unbelievably high level. The defense was I.

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Speaker 7: Would categorize as above average, above average to average. And

997
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 7: look at what happens when the Green bit Packers come

998
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Speaker 7: into town. They walk the floor with you, mop the

999
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 7: floor with you, whatever the term is. Sure, it's not

1000
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Speaker 7: even close. And so that's what I'm saying is, you know,

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Speaker 7: that's a defense that had Michael Parsons. That's a defense

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Speaker 7: that had all of the pieces, most of the pieces

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Speaker 7: that they've got that you know, you would say, okay,

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00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 7: And I think really that was a team that you

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Speaker 7: could say of all the Cowboys team in the last

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Speaker 7: thirty years where they've been in the strout, that team

1007
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Speaker 7: was up there and the ones that had the best

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Speaker 7: chance to win all oh seven fourteen yeah, yeah, maybe

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00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 7: not the best, but up there with it. And they

1010
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 7: had what you guys are talking about a elite offense

1011
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 7: with a average to above average defense.

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Speaker 8: And look at what happens Week one.

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00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 4: But you know what, you didn't have a single takeaway

1014
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 4: in that game.

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Speaker 7: And but but but to the takeaways point, Cowboys have

1016
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 7: won the turnover battle the last three games. They've been

1017
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Speaker 7: plus in the turnover battle of the last three games.

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Speaker 7: But you're giving only won, Well, that's what I'm saying

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00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 7: is but yeah, it's exactly exactly.

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Speaker 6: It's it.

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Speaker 8: It doesn't even matter.

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Speaker 7: And yes, the turnover battle is something that every coach,

1023
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 7: regardless of level, every time we call a high school game,

1024
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 7: what are the keys to the game?

1025
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 8: Coach had got to win the turnover battle.

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00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 7: You can win the turnover battle and it won't matter

1027
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 7: if you're giving up. You know, like like I, you're

1028
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 7: ready for the Panthers play calls in the fourth.

1029
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 8: Quarter, run run, run, run, run, run, run.

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00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 7: Pass, run, pass, touchdowns, run, pass, pass, punt, run, pass, pass, run, pass, pass, run, run, pass, pass, run, run, run, run, run,

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Speaker 7: field goal.

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Speaker 2: That's a lot of runs.

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Speaker 4: They were cooking the clock on purpose, which was very well.

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Speaker 1: They were, which is very so I thought David Hellman

1035
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Speaker 1: put out a great tweet. I don't have it in

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Speaker 1: front of me, but I'm paraphrasing. He basically is saying,

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Speaker 1: one of the most embarrassing parts of this defensive performance

1038
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 1: is that you gave the ball back to Carolina with

1039
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: about six minutes left, and you weren't able to touch

1040
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 1: the ball again. That's that was part of the problem

1041
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: in that whole sense. So I do I agree with you, Tommy,

1042
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: and I agree with you in different ways. I think

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00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 1: you're not close enough yet to categorize this as a

1044
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 1: Super Bowl contingent team, and you probably won't when you

1045
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: make a move of some sort.

1046
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 2: But I think a pass rusher and a solidified either

1047
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 2: safety corner throw them in the secondary. We'll figure it

1048
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 2: out one way or the other. Will help limit those

1049
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 2: big plays.

1050
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: They will limit the pass play or the splash plays

1051
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: that have really hurts you to this point because the

1052
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: edge rusher. If you're able to get home with an

1053
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: edge rusher that's elite and elevate the rest of the

1054
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: edge rushers in that rotation, all of a sudden, the

1055
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 1: time clock starts to shrink.

1056
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 2: Your time clock.

1057
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: As a quarterback to operate, starts to shrink. That puts

1058
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 1: less stress on your secondary. And if you've got another

1059
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 1: body in the say secondary, whether it's a safety, whether

1060
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: it's a corner, doesn't really matter. We'll have a conversation,

1061
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 1: i'm sure at some point this week about Trayvon Diggs

1062
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 1: and his play and what it has been through the

1063
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: first month and a half. He hasn't been there, he

1064
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: hasn't been it. It hasn't been good. So maybe you

1065
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: get a corner to solidify one side of the field,

1066
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: Maybe you do something like that. They're one or two

1067
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: moves away from being serviceable. I agree with you, though, Tommy,

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Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to be elite. They would

1069
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: love to be the twenty twenty three Cowboys defense. That's

1070
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: where they would love to be. But it gave them

1071
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 1: a shot in two three, and they missed their shot.

1072
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 1: I think Dak Prescott's playing at a level right now

1073
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Speaker 1: to where you can bank on them having a shot

1074
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Speaker 1: as long as the defense is service.

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Speaker 3: Really really quick, because I'm looking at the time and

1076
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 3: then I'll know we close out the thing. And I'm

1077
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Speaker 3: glad you brought up the Green Bay game because it

1078
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Speaker 3: actually makes my point, this was one of the best

1079
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Speaker 3: defenses in the league that season. But you know what,

1080
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 3: they struggled against run defense. Yes, right, So it's it's

1081
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 3: always you can't be elite if you're strugg if you

1082
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 3: have a gaping hole somewhere. Rather it be and giving

1083
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 3: up chunk players or stopping the run. They had an issue.

1084
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 2: Could not stop the run.

1085
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 3: They were the best in the league at taking the

1086
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 3: ball away. Okay, green Bay came in, they couldn't stop

1087
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Speaker 3: the run and they didn't take the ball away.

1088
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 2: It was all the red flags.

1089
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 4: So there you go. That's my point.

1090
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 3: So that means they were not an elite defense because

1091
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 3: when the time came to really buck up and it's

1092
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,919
Speaker 3: postseason and you're at home and you're against the Green

1093
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 3: Bay Backpackers, you didn't need You suffered against run defense,

1094
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 3: which is something you had done all season, and you

1095
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 3: were unable to do the one thing that made you great,

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Speaker 3: which were splash plays and not allowing chunk plays. So

1097
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 3: that means they were never really a great defense that year.

1098
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 3: They just were great at takeaways, and then they weren't

1099
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 3: able to get none of you get in it against

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00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 3: the Green Bay Packers, and then the run defense showed

1101
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 3: you what it was against the Green Bay Packers. So

1102
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,439
Speaker 3: you don't need an elite and elite. You want both.

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00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 3: You want both to be elite. But you're not gonna.

1104
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 3: I've watched too much NFL football to believe that you

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00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,760
Speaker 3: require both of those things to be perfectly in sync

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00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 3: to win the Super Bowl.

1107
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 4: That's rarely the case, actually, so, I.

1108
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 3: Mean, even if you go back and look at Eagles Chiefs,

1109
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 3: the defense won that game for the Eagles, not the offense.

1110
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 4: The offense.

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00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 6: Uh.

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00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 2: One word answers and then we're getting out of here.

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00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 2: Are you moving on?

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00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: For Maddie refuse no too soon. That's two words, so

1115
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: yes or no oh no, by no no for me.

1116
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: For you, it's four words, chuck all right.

1117
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 3: And then it was like Tupac like the number two,

1118
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 3: and then soon so too. So the picks, the first

1119
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 3: round picks, trade them or keep them?

1120
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 8: Keep them?

1121
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 4: Trade them.

1122
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say trade one. I'm gonna trade them.

1123
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 4: Split your difference.

1124
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 2: I'll split the difference, all right.

1125
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 4: Switch.

1126
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 2: That's gonna do it for us.

1127
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 6: I did.

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00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: I flipped the script. I've had a change of heart today.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna do it for us. Here on Talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Will be back on Wednesday. No show tomorrow. We've got

1131
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Speaker 1: a little bit going on here in studio, so we

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Speaker 1: will not be here tomorrow. We will be back Wednesday

1133
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Speaker 1: and we'll start turning the page going into the Week

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Speaker 1: seven matchup against Dan Quinn and the Washington Commanders. For

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Speaker 1: Patrick Nosey Walker, tommy Rs, Chris Beam in the back,

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00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,359
Speaker 1: I'm Kyle Yoman saying so long.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you on Wednesday with more Talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.