1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Our three of Clay and Buck kicks 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: off right now. 4 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 2: Debate nights not as exciting as some of the other 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: debate nights perhaps in recent political history. It doesn't really feel, Clay, 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: like everyone's going to be getting out quite as much popcorn, 7 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 2: not as much enthusiasm as we've seen. One of the 8 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: problems here and this isn't even a commentary on on 9 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 2: Sir Trump's political dominance right now in the primary, so 10 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 2: much as it is just the reality of when you're 11 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 2: used to seeing Trump for a while on the debate stage, 12 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 2: without him being there, it's just inherently less interesting, you 13 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 2: know what I mean. It's like going to see the 14 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 2: team and the star players not there. 15 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 16 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 3: I also think, Buck, there's still way too many people 17 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 3: on the stage. So I know, we lost Asa Hutchinson. 18 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 3: I think right who is now? You were sad about 19 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 3: that one? That was real brushed, yeah, Brush, because you 20 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 3: know I was a big Asa guy. But when you 21 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 3: look at the stage now, I think the real question 22 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 3: I was kind of excited a month ago for the debate. 23 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 3: I'm not very I mean, I'm gonna watch it react 24 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 3: to it, as we will certainly tomorrow. But it feels 25 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 3: like JV in many ways, And there's nothing wrong with JV, 26 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 3: but it's if there were four or five guys and 27 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 3: gals on the stage, maybe you would pay more attention. 28 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 3: But there's still seven. We know that Mike Penns has 29 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 3: a zero percent chance of being elected president. We know 30 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 3: Doug Bergham has a zero percent chance of being elected president. 31 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 3: The other five like minimally like almost zero right now 32 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 3: based on how things are looking. But if you had, 33 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 3: for instance, the top three or the top four, I 34 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 3: think that would be more interesting to me. The biggest story, 35 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 3: buck is this, are any of this Are any of 36 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 3: these contenders against Trump going to acknowledge reality and start 37 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 3: to drop out and see whether there can be a 38 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 3: guy or a gal who can go head to head 39 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 3: with Trump? Because I think that's the only way he 40 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 3: could lose. And I think the answer is no. But yeah, 41 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 3: it's the only play here. 42 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 2: It's feeling a lot like twenty sixteen when when Kasick 43 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 2: you know, his dad was a mailman, and anyone ever 44 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 2: hear that, by the way, if you remember back to that, 45 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 2: every he was like I'm John kay Sick. My father 46 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 2: was a mailman. Yeah, so Kasick was in for a 47 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 2: long time, and I think you know, he had pretty 48 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: a considerable little chunk there. Rubio and Cruz were the 49 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 2: last two standing after that. I think you're seeing something 50 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 2: similar here, except Trump is up fifty points. I mean, 51 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 2: this is like a completely different numerical reality and that 52 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 2: this is what a little bit what I want to 53 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 2: talk about, Clay. It's one of our favorite topics here 54 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 2: because it is it's getting a little nerve wracking on team. 55 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 2: Biden's gonna be the nominee, and let me explain why 56 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 2: this is. I'm not changing, Like I said, I'm so 57 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 2: deep I couldn't even get out of my Biden will 58 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 2: be the nominee bunker if I wanted to at this point. 59 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: So I'm I'm sticking to what I got tripped on. 60 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 3: The short stairs yesterday Buck on the Air Force one. 61 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 3: I mean, you are in a You're in rough spot here. 62 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: This is uh. 63 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 2: I'm just telling you. You know, it is always darkest 64 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: before the dawn. It is always this. It is these 65 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 2: moments when we find our character when it comes to predictions. 66 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: And I'm sticking with it. But here's what's interesting. 67 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 2: Trump, as we know tonight, is skipping to go to Michigan. 68 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: And do his event there with union workers. Yeah. 69 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 2: Michigan, we all understand, is an absolutely key state in 70 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. And the assumption here being it's going 71 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 2: to be Donald Trump against Joe Biden fighting over that state. 72 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: Biden going to the picket line, that was yesterday, right, 73 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: Biden going to the picket line was the most obvious 74 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 2: and calculated maneuver you know in politics you could conjure up. 75 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 2: I mean, right, he's going to hang out with union 76 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 2: workers who are protesting. Trump is running a general election 77 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: campaign right now. I mean, that is what this is. 78 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: And I think one thing, Clay is that unless you 79 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: were to see a substantial the only way this stops, 80 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 2: the only way Trump even has to start pretending like 81 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 2: he's in a primary, is if you have Ron de 82 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 2: Santis shoot up ten points in the polls here. I 83 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 2: mean it would have to be something, you know, five, six, 84 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 2: seven might get some attention. But if he shoots up 85 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: double digits after this debate, short of that, you're just 86 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 2: in a Trump Biden general election. 87 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: In September of twenty twenty three, yeah, and that's why 88 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: I say that. 89 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 3: To me, the storyline is if you are and I'm 90 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 3: not trying to cast dispersions, but if you are any 91 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 3: one other than Ron de Santis Nikki Hayley, I think 92 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 3: Viveik has no chance. 93 00:04:58,560 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 4: Now. 94 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: I think he's had moment into him and kind of yeah, 95 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: he had a moment. 96 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 2: It was interesting, but people aren't Actually he's not gaining 97 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: any support. 98 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 3: I think it's basically Ron DeSantis or Nicky Haley. To me, 99 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 3: Tim Scott has not had any kind of breakthrough moment. 100 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 3: I know he's got a lot of advocates, and I 101 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 3: know he's raised a lot of money. Chris Christy Hash 102 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 3: you know, can punch through maybe in New Hampshire, but 103 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 3: he hasn't had any real ability to appeal to the 104 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 3: Republican electorate. I think, if you're just being honest and 105 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 3: looking at the current layout, there are only two candidates 106 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 3: that could run against Trump, Ron DeSantis and Nicky Haley. 107 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: I think everybody else should drop out. This is my opinion, and. 108 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 3: We'll see if that changes based on how the debate 109 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 3: goes tonight. But buck if everybody other than DeSantis and 110 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 3: Nicky Haley dropped out, then you have Iowa and New 111 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 3: Hampshire and whoever is second in that scenario, then you 112 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 3: go on to South Carolina. It's basically one v one 113 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 3: and the only way Trump could lose. At this point, 114 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 3: as we sit here, what it is less than four 115 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 3: months until votes start being tallied. Three and a half 116 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 3: months till votes start being tallied in Iowa is if 117 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 3: a lot. 118 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: Of these other people drop out. 119 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 3: And I we talked about this off air, so many 120 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 3: of them are so self interested that they won't drop out. 121 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 3: I mean, we made fun a little bit of Mayor 122 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 3: Sworez from Miami who dropped out. But as soon as 123 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 3: you know that you have zero percent chance of being 124 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 3: elected president, like what is Mike Pence doing? 125 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 4: What? 126 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 3: I mean, who is advising Mike Pence and saying like 127 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 3: you're going to be somehow president just. 128 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 2: Like an I mean Mike Pence and and other candidates 129 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 2: Clay who are in this. First of all, there's the 130 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 2: personal and there's the professional, and those are always somewhat 131 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 2: crossed over. But on an individual psychological level, these are 132 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 2: people who very much like attention. You know, Doug Bergham 133 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 2: is a guy who maybe thinks he's got a future 134 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 2: where he'll have a better shot. But you look at 135 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: any of these individuals, they like to be literally and 136 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: figuratively center stage, right, They like to be in the limelight. 137 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: They want people. And now you can. 138 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 2: Get into whether that's because they think that they have 139 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 2: great service that they can do to the country and 140 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 2: they truly believe that, or if they're just they need 141 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 2: attention and a combination of their their obvio is usually 142 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 2: the real answer. And then professionally or at a more 143 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 2: dollars in cent side of things, it's just a brand 144 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 2: building exercise them. And so what you're saying is if 145 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 2: we're just trying to figure out who should be the 146 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 2: Republican nominee, there should be more of a sense of 147 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 2: civic duty and what's best for the country from these 148 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 2: candidates and what's best for the Republican Party first, actually, 149 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 2: before you even think about getting to the general election level. 150 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: They're not going to do it though, you and I 151 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 2: know that, right, So this is going to continue on. 152 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 2: And I think the only way you see a change 153 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 2: up here and Trump is Trump is right to not 154 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 2: show up at debate. This is the part of it 155 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 2: that's so crazy, Right, he did the first time, and 156 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 2: and the Biden stuff. 157 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: I mean, we've been talking about it today. You've got the. 158 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 2: Wires that are now coming from China that are listing 159 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: Joe Biden, not Hunter Biden, Joe Biden's home address as 160 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 2: the as the main place, the stairs, the tripping on 161 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: the stairs thing. I didn't even see that one, but 162 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 2: I know that he almost fell coming down the short stairs. Remember, 163 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 2: they're now allowing him to basically enter on the underbelly 164 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 2: of Air Force One, as opposed to the usual sort 165 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 2: of majestic staircase where you come out wave. They've changed 166 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 2: his tennis shoes because he can't walk. He only spent 167 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 2: I think twelve minutes on the picket line in Michigan. 168 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 2: I mean, they got the video footage that they wanted 169 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 2: because they'll run it on a loop. But but I 170 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 2: increasingly I don't see any way that they can run 171 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 2: Biden and Buck. Selfishly, I think Biden is almost now 172 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 2: the worst candidate that Democrats could run. I mean, if 173 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 2: you really Thomas hold on, hold on, hold on, how 174 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 2: is that possible? In most of the polls, he's tied 175 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: with Trump, Kamala's not tied with Trump, and but Kamala 176 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 2: would get Cross. 177 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: To be fair, Kamala is worse than Biden. 178 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 3: I think all of these governors, whether it's Gretchen Whitmer crazily, 179 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 3: whether it's JB. Pritzker, whether it's Gavin Newsom, I think 180 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 3: they would all be better candidates than Biden. I think 181 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 3: Democrats are starting to panic. I think Democrats are starting 182 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 3: to look around and say, wait a minute. And I 183 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 3: know your argument of they're just gonna run January sixth 184 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 3: and then abortion, that's that that's gonna be their campaign. 185 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: I think that's right. 186 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 3: But they'd hit Trump. It feels like to me buck 187 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 3: with everything they can. I mean, he's got ninety one 188 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 3: felony indictments that he is facing, and they've had basically 189 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 3: no dent on Trump. And I think to a large extent, 190 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 3: that's because people have made up their mind about what 191 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 3: they think about both Trump and Biden. We've never seen 192 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 3: anything like this where all of the drama of the 193 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 3: primary season may be basically soaked out and doesn't even exist, 194 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 3: and we're embarking on a fourteen month presidential campaign. I 195 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 3: just people have already made up their minds. I don't 196 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 3: think there's hardly anything you can say about Trump better 197 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 3: or worse, and the same thing I think is true Biden, 198 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 3: except Biden's age is getting worse every day, every week, 199 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 3: every month. And this is where I think Democrats are 200 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 3: potentially in trouble. Biden's awful. Now, yesterday we're talking about Buck. 201 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 3: They have to switch from dress shoes to tennis shoes. 202 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 3: He's doing physical therapy to be able to walk. They've 203 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 3: changed the staircase on Air Force one because he can't 204 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 3: get up and down the stairs without them being afraid 205 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 3: of him tripping. And he tripped coming down the stairs, 206 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 3: I mean almost on the same day. Can you imagine 207 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 3: they're terrified of him falling and then boom he falls again. 208 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 3: He's going to He's probably all in his head to 209 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 3: the extent that his head works, terrified that he's gonna 210 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 3: fall when he's walking everywhere now and he does that 211 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 3: silly little fake jog every time when he almost falls, like, 212 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 3: oh look, I'm a great athlete, but. 213 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: To be fair, everybody does the fake jog when you stumble. 214 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you know what I'm talking about. 215 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 3: But he's gonna get worse, and I think Democrats are 216 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 3: putting themselves in a position where they may well have 217 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 3: to at their convention because it's going to be so 218 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 3: bad by the time we get to like March and 219 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 3: April and May of next year. Buck, I just I 220 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 3: don't even understand how they, even having elected Fetterman, are 221 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 3: going to be able to try to pull this. Remember 222 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 3: Fetterman's one of one hundred. You can hide somebody in 223 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 3: a Senate campaign, I think more than you can hide 224 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 3: somebody in a national campaign. I just think Democrats are 225 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 3: starting to panic as they recognize that they've thrown everything 226 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 3: they can at Trump, and ultimately, even with all of 227 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 3: those stories, Biden's own mental and physical frailty to me, 228 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 3: seems to be overwhelming any of the Trumps. 229 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 2: The problem is we the the founding fathers, the Constitution, 230 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 2: the there we understand what the precedent is here. It's 231 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 2: supposed to be, Okay, you have a you have a 232 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 2: president who is you know, mentally physically infirmed, can't do things, 233 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 2: we have a vice president. 234 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the option. 235 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 2: They don't want to take that option, and there still 236 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 2: isn't really a good third option. 237 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 1: So this is why we sit here. We go in 238 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: circles on this one. 239 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 2: But but the Classified Information Investigation there's reporting on that today. 240 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 2: You know there play there are people in the Democrats. 241 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 2: Are all Democrats who matter in this conversation panicking? No, 242 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 2: are the Democrats who are realizing this is going to 243 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 2: be really challenging, even with ninety one indictments or ninety 244 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 2: one counts against Trump. Yeah, I think they're realizing this 245 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 2: is going to be a big This is going to 246 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 2: be a big, a big thing. We'll come back to 247 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: this here in just a second. 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The 264 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. 265 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 3: Welcome back in each Travis Bucks Exton Show, appreciate all 266 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 3: of you hanging out with us. We roll through the 267 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 3: third hour of the program a little bit of an 268 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 3: early preview for the upcoming debate. But again, I wanted 269 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 3: to play this because I know we were talking about 270 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 3: Democrats getting nervous. They're saying out loud what they've been 271 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 3: saying privately for some time. Here's Democrat pollster Doug Showing 272 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 3: discussing the fact that basically Joe Biden shouldn't run. 273 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 2: You're the vice president, you're Kamala Harris, and they picked 274 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: this guy, also from your state of California, to go 275 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 2: give the rebuttal, if you will after that debate. 276 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 4: It is a direct personal insult to the vice president. 277 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 4: It also paris, to be clear, is an acknowledgement. I 278 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 4: was going to say pass it, but I mean explicit 279 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 4: acknowledgment that her poll numbers are even worse than Joe 280 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 4: Biden's fading poll numbers. Bottom line, Democrats everywhere are increasingly 281 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 4: saying Joe Biden shouldn't run. 282 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 3: They're saying out loud now, Joe Biden shouldn't run. But 283 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 3: question for you, how much do you think the age 284 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 3: of many of the top Democrats, whether it's Nancy Pelosi, 285 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:12,239 Speaker 3: whether it's Chuck Schumer, factors into their unwillingness to acknowledge 286 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 3: that Joe Biden has an issue based on age, Because, 287 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 3: to be fair, everybody who's eighty years old is not 288 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 3: the same, right, everybody's mental faculties, physical frailties. I mean, 289 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 3: there's a huge amount of difference. I was looking there. 290 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 3: You see they're doing the Golden Bachelor seventy eight year 291 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 3: old bachelor. Yeah, a seventy two year old bachelor's picture, 292 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 3: and I'm like, I think this guy looks younger than me. 293 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 3: And so there's a wide variety of age differences. But 294 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 3: I wonder how much the gerontocracy in the Democrat Party 295 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 3: and also I mean certainly in the Republican Party, but 296 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 3: how much that factors into an unwillingness to acknowledge Joe 297 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 3: Biden's frailties because you're afraid maybe they're going to circle 298 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 3: back on me next. Oh. 299 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 2: I think it's a major component of it. And I 300 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 2: think that look at it's a component of why the 301 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 2: Democrats continue to live in this sort of fantasy that 302 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 2: and it's not just Democrats, Republicans too, And we've seen 303 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 2: with Mitch McConnell. I mean, we've got to keep it 304 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 2: really here, We've got to be honest. But I also 305 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 2: think that there are a lot of people who they're 306 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 2: going to justify in their minds. They're going to say, well, 307 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 2: if it's Trump, or bide it. And I know I 308 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 2: don't need to hear the arguments, but how Trump is 309 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 2: in much better like we know that, right. But I'm saying, 310 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 2: if you're somebody who's sitting around you don't pay that 311 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 2: much attention to politics, you're going to be casting a 312 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 2: vote in Pennsylvania, and you know, maybe you might go Republican, 313 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 2: maybe you might go Democrat. You're gonna have a seventy 314 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 2: eight year old running against an eighty two year old. Yeah, 315 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 2: that is reality. People can tell me as much as 316 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 2: they want that Trump is the finest, fittest specimen of 317 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 2: seventy eight in the history of the world, and I 318 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 2: think he is a phenomenally. 319 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: You know with it. 320 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 2: But what the electorate thinks is not necessarily what all 321 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 2: of us who sit here and think that Trump is 322 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 2: the clear choice would think. 323 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 3: Right, that's what That's what I see with it. So 324 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 3: you've got a lot of stake bets. I don't even 325 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 3: know what the total are on Joe Biden being the nominee. 326 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 3: We come back in the next segment here, I want 327 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 3: you to be on it with the American public. How 328 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 3: nervous are you that I'm going to be ordering one 329 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 3: of the finest, fattest, most spectacular steaks. 330 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: Anywhere in the land. And what's the time frame? 331 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 3: I do think we need to talk about the time 332 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 3: frame if Biden is going to step down, what does 333 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 3: that look like and when does it need to happen 334 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 3: and how does it occur? Because you look at I mean, 335 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 3: when there's two hundred and sixty thousand dollars getting wired 336 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 3: to your house from China with the address of being 337 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 3: the it's really hard to argue, Hey, I had nothing 338 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 3: to do with any of these foreign involvements, right, I mean, 339 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 3: and then we got all the news reports coming out 340 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 3: about finally there's no men on the Special Council Investigation. 341 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 2: Clay, the guy he's running against, has ninety one counts 342 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 2: in four different federal industries. 343 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: Get it, they're crazy. 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They ought to stop wasting 370 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: their time. 371 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 2: You know, they're wasting a lot of time with the 372 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 2: ridiculous debates that nobody's watching. 373 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 4: Their last debate was the lowest rated debate in history. 374 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: That's a good compliment, is it? 375 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 4: Now? What was I doing, Madrie? 376 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 2: I was someplace else, wasn't I had? 377 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: I was doing another interview. 378 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 2: We had two hundred and seventy one million people listening 379 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 2: to the Tucker Carlson interview. 380 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 1: That's an old time. 381 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 2: And it's the greatest political show on Earth, no question 382 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 2: about it. And the fact, you know, Clay, it's one thing. 383 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 2: It's one thing for him to say I'm not going 384 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 2: to the debate. It's nothing to say I'm going to 385 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 2: hold a competing event with the debate and see what 386 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:53,479 Speaker 2: gets more attention, and what more people watch and all 387 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 2: the rest of it. I mean, this is I mean, 388 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 2: I've never seen anything like this before. But I did 389 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 2: want to ask you about this because before we get 390 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 2: back into how. 391 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: By the way, I'm not that nervous about the Joe Biden. 392 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: You should be really nervous about that. I'm not. I'm 393 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: telling you, I'm I'm feeling right now. Clay is the worst. 394 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 2: It's gonna get, man, Right now, It's like the fever's 395 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 2: about to break, and the Democrats are just gonna go 396 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 2: full psycho and say Joe's fine, he's sharp as attack. 397 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 2: They're They're all, look what they did with masks. Man, 398 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 2: They're gonna do the mask mentality. But it's gonna be 399 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 2: with Joe Biden. You're gonna say, hey, why do you 400 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 2: think your mask worse when you. 401 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: Pull it on? Pull it off, put it on, put off? 402 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 2: When you're in a restaurant going to and from your table, 403 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 2: and they just look at you like, because this is 404 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 2: what we do the same thing with Joe Biden, be like, 405 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 2: why do you think that some guy with dementia who 406 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 2: can barely walk would be a good president. 407 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: They're just gonna be like because MSNBC said so, like they. 408 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 2: Just don't care. One thing I thought was interesting. You 409 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 2: see this, Uh, this judge in New York. 410 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw this about Marlo's value. 411 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, mar A Lago's value. Let me just let me 412 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,239 Speaker 2: just pull up this guy, this guy's name. So this, 413 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 2: this judge in New York has decided that the Donald 414 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 2: that Donald Trump committed fraud. Yeah, and has his business 415 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 2: licenses for the Trump organization, business certificates for the Trump organization. 416 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 2: So that means that Donald Trump is supposed to be 417 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 2: barred from conducting business in New York State until the 418 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,959 Speaker 2: revocation is rescinded. This is Manhattan Judge Arthur Engern, And 419 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 2: I just this is over things like they say that 420 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 2: mar A Lago was they said it at the wrong 421 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 2: they inflated the value, and this judge says it's worth 422 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 2: eighteen million dollars. 423 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: You see this. 424 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 2: You can't buy a hotdog stand for eighteen million dollars 425 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 2: on the waterfront in Palm Beach. 426 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, just to put it in context, I 427 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 3: mean directly attached to this show. I think Russia's home 428 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty five he had, yeah, that he 429 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 3: had in Palm Beach and it's a couple of acres. 430 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 3: I don't remember exactly the properties, but it's sold for 431 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 3: over one hundred and fifty million. So you and I 432 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 3: have been to mar A Lago. We did the show 433 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 3: live for mar A Lago, don't. I don't claim to 434 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 3: be an expert in real estate. And let me just 435 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 3: say this, a lot of these judges are not very smart. 436 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: Okay. 437 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 3: Any valuation of a rare asset has to have a 438 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 3: massive range because you don't know what the exact market 439 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 3: value is. Mar A Lago, for instance, is such a 440 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 3: unique property. I'm confident if Russia's house sold for one 441 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty million, based on the specs that I've 442 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 3: seen on that home, that mar A Lago would have 443 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 3: to be worth three or four hundred million minimal and 444 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 3: buck the land itself, even if you take away the 445 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 3: physical structure. If you just wiped out the mar A 446 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 3: Lago resort and the property there and you just had 447 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 3: I don't even know what is that like ten or 448 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 3: twelve acres. It may be way more than that. I 449 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 3: don't know how many acres. It's a big footprint of 450 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 3: land that would be worth several hundred million dollars because 451 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 3: and maybe even more without the physical structure on it, 452 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 3: because what's happening now is all these Palm Beach properties 453 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 3: are getting bought and people are immediately tearing down the 454 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 3: existing homes there and building far more opulent and luxurious homes. 455 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: But my point in general on this is. 456 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 3: I question what judges understand about basic economics when they're 457 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 3: making rulings by law. This wasn't a jury that looked 458 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 3: at this that they are the range of I mean, 459 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 3: I don't even know all of Donald Trump's assets, Okay 460 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 3: I don't, but the range of his asset value would 461 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 3: be billions and billions of dollars. On the high end, 462 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 3: you could say that mar Lago, and I don't think 463 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 3: this is crazy. On the high end, you could say 464 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 3: that mar A Lago is worth seven or eight hundred 465 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 3: million dollars. I mean, I don't think that's a crazy 466 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 3: valuation for that property. Based on what other things they're 467 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,719 Speaker 3: selling for. On the on Paul Beach low end, it's 468 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 3: probably three hundred that's a five hundred million dollar range 469 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 3: at minimum. 470 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 2: So this is the to give a little more background 471 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 2: on this, This is the NBC News, right up of it. 472 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 2: So the New York judge ruled in the state Attorney 473 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 2: General's two hundred fifty million dollar lawsuit against Donald Trump 474 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,959 Speaker 2: and his company Tuesday that the former president committed repeated 475 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 2: acts of fraud for years. According to the ruling, which 476 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 2: allows the civil trial to begin next week, Trump lied 477 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 2: to banks and insurers by both overvaluing and overvaluing and 478 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 2: undervaluing his assets when it was to his benefit, while 479 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 2: exaggerating his net worth the tune of billions of dollars. 480 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 2: So you know, look, this is where you get into. 481 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 2: First of all, these banks and these lenders, no one 482 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 2: lost money. 483 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: Correct. 484 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 2: These are very sophisticated entities. They know who they're doing 485 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 2: business with. And Trump is the He is, no question, 486 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 2: the consummate salesman. You know, he's as good at sales 487 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 2: as you are. I mean, he's a good salesman. And 488 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 2: he is somebody who Yeah, he's got a lot of braggadocio, 489 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 2: and he you know, he thinks his brand. You know, 490 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 2: if he says his brand is worth nine billion dollars, 491 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 2: you know, Okay, maybe no one's gonna pay for But 492 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 2: it's really hard to say that it's fraud when you're 493 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 2: engaged in negotiations with a bank when you're showing it's 494 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 2: fraud if he says I owe me, I owe these 495 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 2: like hundred houses and you don't own them, right, correct. 496 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 2: But the Trump value brand is you know, estimated at 497 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 2: X amount of dollars. It's up to the bank to 498 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 2: look at that and say, yeah, that seems legit based 499 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 2: upon the you know, the now they're going to say 500 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 2: he changed some assets up down. It's not an exact science. 501 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 2: And also this gets us to the core of the 502 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 2: issue Clay, which is right now, really the New York 503 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 2: State Attorney General is doing this in the midst of 504 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 2: four other federal felony indicting think of the It used 505 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 2: to be a think like if you got indicted for 506 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 2: a felony, you know, you just go into like, you know, 507 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,479 Speaker 2: panic mode, whether it's you know, for any anything, right, 508 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 2: whether it's you know, financial or anything else. 509 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: You're like, oh my god, what's going on? Now? We 510 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 1: sit here and they're making it. 511 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 2: It's not funny because of what it's doing to the country, 512 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 2: but it's absurd, right, It's like farcical the charges that. 513 00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: They're now throwing against Donald Trump. 514 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, and by the way mar Lago is twenty acres 515 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 3: so and I would just take this out of billionaire 516 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 3: Donald Trump world. How many people out there listening to 517 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 3: us right now, At some point in the last fifteen 518 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 3: or twenty years, did you decide to take out a 519 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 3: new mortgage on your home or you decided to take 520 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 3: out a home equity line. You may have experienced this 521 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 3: in your own life. You can get a really good 522 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 3: appraisal for your property. You can also get a really 523 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 3: bad appraisal because there are wide ranges of comps that 524 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 3: the appraisers can look at. I remember it's probably been 525 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 3: like eight years ago or so. I wanted to take 526 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 3: out a home equity line because the property value had 527 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 3: increased quite a bit. And the appraiser pulled up and 528 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 3: I started talking to him, and I was like, this 529 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 3: guy's a moron, I talked, I swear to you like 530 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 3: he pulled up, I started talking to him, and I 531 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 3: was like, this guy is a complete and total moron. 532 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 3: He's going to do an awful appraisal. And he did 533 00:26:59,000 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 3: an awful appraisal. 534 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: And and I. 535 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 3: Remember, anybody who has been through this, there is an 536 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 3: art to it, right, and there is a wide range 537 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 3: of potential value. But I think the key here is 538 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 3: who lost. The bank didn't lose money on these loans, 539 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 3: and the bank is a highly sophisticated, incredibly well informed 540 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 3: adversary when it comes to trying to value assets like these. 541 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 3: I just it is beyond the pale that a judge 542 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 3: could look at this and say, as a matter of law, 543 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 3: this is some side kind of a fraud. 544 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: It just do. 545 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 2: Here's a perfect example. So the judge here said that 546 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 2: from twenty eleven to twenty twenty one, the Palm Beach 547 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 2: County Assessor appraised the market value of mar A Lago 548 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 2: at eighteen million dollars to twenty seven million dollars. Trump's 549 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 2: financial statements put the value at four hundred to six 550 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 2: hundred million dollars. Well, okay, hold on a sick that's right. 551 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, it's not telling me what what 552 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,959 Speaker 2: you could act actually get for mar A Lago. It 553 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 2: is a heck of a lot closer to four hundred 554 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 2: or five hundred million than it is to eight. 555 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 3: Eighteen million dollars. I'll just tell you this, buck. We're 556 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 3: building a house in Alice Beach, which is on thirty 557 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 3: A in Florida. Every beach front home in Alice Beach, 558 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 3: and they are not twenty acres. They are like quarter 559 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 3: acre lots. Every one of them now is worth eighteen 560 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 3: million dollars or more. So this is a different area 561 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 3: of the country, right, But it's Florida, it's waterfront, and 562 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 3: it's not twenty acres. I don't understand how anybody I 563 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 3: think Trump's right. I mean that that property is probably 564 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 3: worth four hundred and six hundred million. But a property 565 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 3: like that buck is a little bit like a piece 566 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 3: of art because the number of people who can afford 567 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 3: to buy it is small, and you actually don't know 568 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 3: what the valuation of a property like that is until 569 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 3: it goes on the market. But again, Russia's I'll sold 570 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 3: for one hundred and fifty million in Palm Beach. That's 571 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 3: nowhere near twenty acres. I don't think that Trump's evaluation 572 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 3: there is remotely out of whack. 573 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 2: And you know there's something also, There's there's bigger issues, 574 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 2: there's bigger concepts at work here, among them that this 575 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 2: is showing people if you get on the wrong side 576 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 2: of the politics of New York State as a businessman, 577 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 2: oh yeah, you're going to be made an example of. 578 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 2: And this is something that is really detrimental, especially to 579 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 2: a state that has lost so many high earners in 580 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 2: recent years. You know, you've got to think to yourself, 581 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 2: do I want to do business in a state that 582 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 2: would do something like this, that would take court sanctioned 583 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 2: punitive action. I mean Latissa James, the Attorney General for 584 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 2: the state of New York, ran on a platform clay 585 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 2: yep of I'm going to get Trump. 586 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: Correct. 587 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 2: She said this when she was running. She's like, I'm 588 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 2: going to, you know, bring justices on Trump. Can you 589 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 2: imagine any other content a state attorney general saying vote 590 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 2: for me. I'm gonna go get the guy you don't 591 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 2: like who has been convicted of nothing. This is really 592 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 2: bad stuff. I mean, this is this is they are. 593 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 2: They are are kicking at the load bearing walls here 594 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 2: man of a legal system in New York and of 595 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 2: people's belief in the fairness of the system or ed. 596 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 3: Remember, if Trump didn't decide to run for political office, 597 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,239 Speaker 3: none of this would have happened. This is not like 598 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 3: it's such a big fraud that the State of New 599 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 3: York would have ever gotten involved. The only reason they 600 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 3: started pouring through all of this was because he ran 601 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 3: for president of the United States and happened to still 602 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 3: be domiciled in New York. I mean, this is this 603 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,959 Speaker 3: is a precedent that is going to be hard to unwind, 604 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 3: and it's all about Trump being attacked because of his 605 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 3: political bo. 606 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 2: You know what also, I think this is we didn't 607 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 2: mention this yet, Clay. I think that there's a multi 608 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 2: pronged strategy. Yes, they want to they want to get him. Sure, 609 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 2: they want to embarrass him. That's a big part of 610 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 2: this by drag him into civil court. Although you know, 611 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 2: embarrassing Trump is I think it's kind of impossible, but 612 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 2: like he doesn't really get embarrassed. But you know, you 613 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 2: get what I'm saying. They want to try to humiliate 614 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 2: him in his brand, but they are also trying to 615 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 2: drain the coffers. 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We appreciate all 659 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 3: of you listening on five hundred roughly five hundred AMFM 660 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 3: affiliates all over the country, and we've had a good 661 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 3: time hanging out with you today. 662 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: Buck. 663 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 3: And in addition to the fact that you're gonna be 664 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 3: panicked soon because I think Joe Biden's gonna have to 665 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 3: find a way to step down, and you're gonna be 666 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 3: thinking about how much the stake's gonna cost you. It's 667 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 3: been a bad week for Biden already, but his dog 668 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 3: keeps biting people. And I think we've mentioned this a 669 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 3: couple of times on the radio show because it keeps 670 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 3: emerging as a story. Biden's have a German shepherd, right, 671 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 3: one of them. They already shipped away from the White House, 672 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 3: is my understanding, like basically is staying somewhere in Delaware. 673 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 3: The dog at the White House has now bitten a 674 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 3: Secret Service agent. Again, I think have I corrected this. 675 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,959 Speaker 3: This is the eleventh time that a Biden dog has 676 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 3: bitten one of or or threatened in a substantial way 677 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 3: where they needed to have a write up on it. 678 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 3: The eleven times eleven times that the Biden dogs have 679 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 3: bitten Secret Service agents. And you know, Commander is the 680 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,439 Speaker 3: two year old German shepherd here, and he bit one 681 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 3: officer on the arm and thigh badly enough that the 682 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 3: officer was sent to the hospital. So just to be 683 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 3: this isn't like, you know, a little like a playful 684 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 3: nip that went too far or something, or a little playful 685 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 3: bite that was you know, it was you know, this 686 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 3: is a dog biting you and it's a German shepherd. 687 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:45,760 Speaker 1: It's not it's. 688 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 4: This. 689 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 3: I mean, like the single service agents are being put 690 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 3: in risk, right, I mean they're not supposed to be 691 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 3: having a deal with getting attacked by dogs. 692 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 2: Look, I think, you know, I think that dogs are 693 00:34:56,120 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 2: always some way a reflection of the household that they're in. 694 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: You know, I think the. 695 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,280 Speaker 2: Dogs are a reflection of the people that are around 696 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 2: them generally, so their anxiety levels, the way that they 697 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 2: interact with people, all of that, and there's something up here. 698 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 4: Man. 699 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 2: People are gonna say, oh, it's a rescue. I know 700 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 2: people with rescues. They're not biting everybody all the time. 701 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 2: And generally speaking, you know, if you bite someone kind 702 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,439 Speaker 2: of severely as a dog, and a lot of places 703 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 2: they'll put a dog down. I've talked about this buck 704 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 2: when when I was six, I got bitten by a 705 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 2: German shepherd. 706 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 3: I had to have over fifty stitches. I was at 707 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 3: my friend Neil's house. I had chicken pox. We were 708 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 3: hanging out about to go to McDonald's. I did nothing. 709 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,240 Speaker 3: I walked out in his backyard, went to tap the dog, 710 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 3: like pet the dog on top of the head. He 711 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 3: jumped right up, bit off half of my face. I 712 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 3: mean for a six year old. So I've never been 713 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 3: a big, a big fan of German shepherds. I mean now, 714 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 3: I'm fully grown, so the dog isn't as isn't as 715 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,720 Speaker 3: close in height to me. But when you're a little kid, 716 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,439 Speaker 3: a dog, a full grown dog is around the same 717 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 3: height as you, it's very scary if the dog is 718 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 3: in any way threatening. And I don't know eleven different 719 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 3: incidents with the Biden dogs. 720 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: I mean it feels like everything Joe. 721 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 3: Biden touches turns to crap, and even his dog is 722 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 3: ill behaved. 723 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 1: It's crazy. 724 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 2: I don't know why they have to have this problem, 725 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 2: or why they can't figure out a way to deal 726 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 2: with this problem more effectively than they have so far. 727 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,399 Speaker 1: I just know that, you know. 728 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 2: This game is the easiest thing to play in media 729 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 2: commentary about politics. If there if the Trump's had a 730 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 2: dog that was sending Secret Service agents to the hospital, 731 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,280 Speaker 2: oh you know that was biting, you would be hearing 732 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 2: about how there are rumors that you know, one of 733 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,760 Speaker 2: the Trump family must be abusing this dog, or they 734 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 2: would make a big thing of it. But because it's 735 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 2: Joe Biden, you know, this is the way it is. 736 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 2: Don't notice the dog that is biting you. That is 737 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 2: basically the mentality around Joe Biden and all things Biden has. 738 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,439 Speaker 2: Where do you think we should go? What steakhouse should 739 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,399 Speaker 2: I pick? I mean, I've already told you we're gonna 740 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 2: go to Bourbon State in Nashville, So there we go.