Speaker 1: And that's what you really missed with Jenna.
Speaker 2: And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Gobble Gobble Gobble, Welcome to and that's what you really
Speaker 1: missed the Thanksgiving edition. This feels like our Friends episode
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving up. Those are the best, the best, like everybody
Speaker 1: else's Christmas episodes. And we do a thanks they do
Speaker 1: a Thanksgiving episode.
Speaker 2: I love it so good.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, happy Thanksgiving to everybody out there. I hope
Speaker 1: you're enjoying your Thanksgiving or about to enjoy your Thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: or have enjoyed your Thanksgiving. I love Thanksgiving. Happy Thanksgiving, Kevin.
Speaker 2: Happy Thanksgiving. I love it too, But I mean, let
Speaker 2: the record show. Don't love the history of Thanksgiving. Just
Speaker 2: love eating a lot, Okay, and the food.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes we're not because.
Speaker 2: I feel like we need to like rebrand it.
Speaker 1: What would you name it?
Speaker 2: I don't know. There's this stuff my face day. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: you and I can eat, we can throw down. You
Speaker 2: know you and I.
Speaker 1: Love some delicious certainly, can do you have? Do you have? Like?
Speaker 2: What are your plans for Thanksgiving?
Speaker 1: Today? So we're going to a friend family friend's house
Speaker 1: and with some of my in laws and with Emma.
Speaker 1: It's close by. So I'm here in La, which is lovely.
Speaker 1: Didn't have to travel for Thanksgiving and we're gonna just eat.
Speaker 1: I've made mashed potatoes. They are ready to go.
Speaker 2: Do you make those mashed potatoes? Like, how do you
Speaker 2: feel about her?
Speaker 1: I do. Amber gave me a secret ingredient, and then
Speaker 1: I had a secret ingredient, so I combined the secret ingredients.
Speaker 2: So I'm imagining so secret. It's not going to say it,
Speaker 2: but like other.
Speaker 1: People have used it, so I'll tell you it's sour
Speaker 1: cream and cream cheese.
Speaker 2: My stomach, my stomach.
Speaker 1: Is just but but but he let me be there,
Speaker 1: so mashed potatoes are great, and then we make good
Speaker 1: mashed potatoes. I will say my favorite is stuffing. It's
Speaker 1: always been stuffing. Live for stuffing. It has to be right.
Speaker 1: But I love stuffing like I need you.
Speaker 2: To break down. You're stuffing for me right now.
Speaker 1: I haven't made it in a long time. It is.
Speaker 1: My mom's recipe is white bread.
Speaker 2: It's like New England stuffing because.
Speaker 1: Sorry onion, yes, sometimes sausage if you have you know,
Speaker 1: mushrooms in there, no mushrooms though we don't do mushroom
Speaker 1: because my dad never liked mushrooms, so we xnate the mushrooms.
Speaker 1: But I like the mushrooms and really like broth, and
Speaker 1: that's it. It's very simple, and then some seasonings.
Speaker 2: Obviously, because I'm from Texas but my whole family's from
Speaker 2: New York and Connecticut, I grew up with, like I think,
Speaker 2: New England style Thanksgiving. Yeah, and so I love that stuffing.
Speaker 2: But we've merged our Thanksgiving with my brother, with my
Speaker 2: sister and last family who are Texans, and so now
Speaker 2: I feel like we have a hybrid of like the
Speaker 2: best dishes from both and what is the Southern like?
Speaker 1: What are like the main differences? What would you say?
Speaker 2: I think the stuffing to be honest, there's like a
Speaker 2: corn bread based stuffing and it is delicious.
Speaker 1: Now there's also stuffing like that people put in the bird. Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, we don't.
Speaker 1: Can't mess with me.
Speaker 2: No no, I'm not trying to do that.
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you.
Speaker 2: No, But I do prefer the New England stuffing, but
Speaker 2: I do appreciate the corn bread.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: So a couple of years ago I showed up to
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving at my brother's house and everything was bad. All
Speaker 2: the food looked the same, like shade of beige. Everything
Speaker 2: was like lukewarm right, nothing had flavor, And I was
Speaker 2: so grossed out. And I was so disappointed because I,
Speaker 2: you know, flew in and like, this is my holiday,
Speaker 2: you guys because as you get older, like Christmas isn't
Speaker 2: that fun because the gifts are for the kids. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is the one we can stuff our faces. Yeah,
Speaker 2: this should just be called stuffing Day.
Speaker 1: I eat it all the time. I'm so ready.
Speaker 2: And so I was like, Okay, next year, everyone, we're
Speaker 2: gonna get our shit together, and me, who never cooks,
Speaker 2: I will be leading the charge. And I have made
Speaker 2: the turkey every single year.
Speaker 1: I'm so impressed and I have to say.
Speaker 2: I have nailed it. I crush it. It is, for
Speaker 2: the first time in my life, a juicy turkey's flavor.
Speaker 2: Every year, I try a little variation on it. Are
Speaker 2: you doing it this year? I'm doing it this year?
Speaker 2: And late so I had my mom Brian it in
Speaker 2: advanced and over the years I've tested different Brians.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm turkey scare me because it's a
Speaker 1: very temperamental bird to cook.
Speaker 2: It is. However, if you brine it. I was doing
Speaker 2: like a wet I'm not getting too into the weeds
Speaker 2: about this, but I was doing like a wet brian.
Speaker 2: I didn't even know what the word brian was before this,
Speaker 2: and putting in like a big, gigantic, you know, bag,
Speaker 2: and I would spill water all over my parents' garage.
Speaker 1: It.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's a mess, but it always It makes a
Speaker 2: turkey cook so much faster. It's so much juicier. You
Speaker 2: because my mom wasn't. I'm like, Mom, what's happening. This
Speaker 2: turkey is flavorless and dry.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: She's like, well I used to, you know, I think
Speaker 2: people you get complacent. She's it's a thankless job, it is,
Speaker 2: and she's doing it every single year. And all my
Speaker 2: knees and nephews be like, I don't like turkey. I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: you're eating my turkey.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And every year it's the same thing because they
Speaker 2: have it in their head that they don't like turkey,
Speaker 2: and I forced them to eat it, and I watched them.
Speaker 2: They're like, oh, this is good kep. I'm like, yes,
Speaker 2: thank you very much.
Speaker 1: Wow, I'm impressed. But you bone.
Speaker 2: Appetite has a lot of great stuff and I would
Speaker 2: watch all their videos and sort of what you did
Speaker 2: with your mash potato recipes. Took a little bit of
Speaker 2: this thing. It took a little of that thing, And
Speaker 2: now I sort of like it's quick. I only cook
Speaker 2: it for like two and a half hours.
Speaker 1: What have you tried the bacon on top of the turkey? No? Okay,
Speaker 1: so we do bacon strips on top of the turkey.
Speaker 1: What yeah, So after you you take it out halfway
Speaker 1: and you put the bacon strips and we usually do
Speaker 1: like a star and we do like a few lines
Speaker 1: and then we put it back in and then it's
Speaker 1: like really juicy because you get the juices of the
Speaker 1: bacon on top. You might want to try it.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Jenna.
Speaker 1: Because the bacon like doesn't taste that good after it's
Speaker 1: been in it long, but it is.
Speaker 2: It's about the fat dripping off the bacon.
Speaker 1: Offy top on top of the skin on top of
Speaker 1: the bird. Actually really great. So I learned a lot
Speaker 1: during twenty.
Speaker 2: Twenty when I couldn't go home because of the pandemic,
Speaker 2: I had Thanksgiving on my own for the first time,
Speaker 2: and so Austin and I made every We made a
Speaker 2: full Thanksgiving. Probably that could have fed like fifteen people
Speaker 2: for four of us.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, impressive, that's good too.
Speaker 2: And we just tried a bunch of things, and I
Speaker 2: learned the best thing to do is to make the
Speaker 2: gravy the day before. You just buy you take like
Speaker 2: the stuff from inside the turkey or it, buy turkey
Speaker 2: neck or wings or whatever, and you make your gravy
Speaker 2: the night before, and it is delicious because you can
Speaker 2: control it better. The flavor is just as good, and
Speaker 2: you just have to heat it. Now I know it's
Speaker 2: one less thing to like if you can do as
Speaker 2: much prep as possible the night before.
Speaker 1: I made one year I made Tully gave me a
Speaker 1: recipe that he makes with his family because Telly's a
Speaker 1: very good cook. And he made this cream corn side dish.
Speaker 1: I've made that too, that has like the crispy onions
Speaker 1: and tops. I fried the onions, I did the whole thing.
Speaker 1: It was a hit. It was the star. It was
Speaker 1: one of the star sides. I was so happy. It
Speaker 1: was very good. Okay, so we've established that stuffing is
Speaker 1: our favorite. I have a question for you, real cranberry
Speaker 1: sauce or canned cranberry sauce, canned can to the slices,
Speaker 1: sliced to the gods, Yeah, give me that can.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: You could just drop it out, yeah, and I would
Speaker 1: eat it.
Speaker 2: I don't love the cranberry in general with all of this,
Speaker 2: but as I'm getting older, I'm liking it a little more.
Speaker 1: Just like a little extra tartness on the plate.
Speaker 2: I get it. It makes sense because you do also
Speaker 2: need something to break up the starchy and.
Speaker 1: Sauce that crunch. Yeah, fully sast that crunch. Okay, So
Speaker 1: now we've talked about dinner, I'm starving. What's favorite? What
Speaker 1: is your favorite Thanksgiving dessert?
Speaker 2: H oh god?
Speaker 1: And is it all homemade for you guys?
Speaker 2: Usually No, since Austin and I have been together and
Speaker 2: he's come to a couple of Thanksgivings, yes, yes, Oh
Speaker 2: my god, I felt so bad. So a couple of
Speaker 2: years ago. The rolls. Austin makes homemade dinner rolls, and
Speaker 2: they're unbelievable, Like you just eat them like apples, like
Speaker 2: just keep them coming. But my mom's oven, she did
Speaker 2: this weird thing to her oven where she like had
Speaker 2: foil at the bottom of it so it didn't get dirty,
Speaker 2: but it also stopped anything from cooking underneath. So Austin
Speaker 2: made a pie, this incredible cranberry apple pie with like
Speaker 2: a crumble on top. Unbelievable. I've had it before, but
Speaker 2: it didn't bake on the bottom and it was burned
Speaker 2: on top. And the same thing happened with all the rolls,
Speaker 2: and he had prepped the night before, like you know,
Speaker 2: it's a twenty four hour thing. Devastated, like so ruined
Speaker 2: all of that. But Austin makes a like he's just
Speaker 2: very very good. He makes a homie pumpkin pie. I
Speaker 2: love pumpkin pie, love it. And last year he made
Speaker 2: we were like, how do we simplify it because a
Speaker 2: lot of people don't eat the dessert in our family.
Speaker 1: Totally and waste. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So last year was like, okay, what's a fan favorite?
Speaker 2: What does everybody actually want? So we didn't plan it
Speaker 2: and we got there and just asked people, you know,
Speaker 2: like the day before and people he Austin gave some
Speaker 2: options and he said chocolate cream pie and everyone was
Speaker 2: like yes, oh yes. So he just like found a recipe,
Speaker 2: like made up a recipe basically a chocolate green pie
Speaker 2: and that was finished.
Speaker 1: I would eat that I like, we are having pecan pie.
Speaker 1: Woman who makes them and they go and get them
Speaker 1: hire to or dinner, and then.
Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with outsourcing. I think that's there's so
Speaker 2: much to do, but.
Speaker 1: It is homemade outsourced. Let me be clear.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the right way to do it.
Speaker 1: She has a small kitchen, she takes a lot of orders,
Speaker 1: but she is damn good. Okay, so we've established now
Speaker 1: we both eat cann cranberry because that is contrary.
Speaker 2: Even my mom are I just basically I was like,
Speaker 2: if my mom's eating it, Jenna is eating it. Wait
Speaker 2: do you guys have that? Like does your mom? Did
Speaker 2: she ever make like the marshmallow fluff stuff?
Speaker 1: We didn't do that on top of the sweet Yes,
Speaker 1: so yeah, there are marshmallows sweet potatoes. My mom didn't
Speaker 1: do that because my aunt used to do a lot
Speaker 1: of Thanksgiving, so got it. They we would bring stuff
Speaker 1: and my aunt would do like the turkey and then
Speaker 1: like a couple of the other things.
Speaker 2: But my moms would do the same place. That's why
Speaker 2: I'm saying this.
Speaker 1: You know what maybe she did she did, and sometimes
Speaker 1: they would do like a like a maple glaze on
Speaker 1: top of them. I would be so mad. I hate maple,
Speaker 1: and so I'd be so mad because it'd be like
Speaker 1: a sweet potato cast role with like the marshmallow fluff
Speaker 1: and like maple, And I'm like, just get out of here,
Speaker 1: Lucky John's get out of here, get out of my face,
Speaker 1: Get me to the good stuff. I could eat stove
Speaker 1: top stuffing though, so I'm also not a good I
Speaker 1: have a wide.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you and I appreciate I make like a McDonald's
Speaker 2: burger just as much as we can appreciate like a
Speaker 2: thirty dollars burger somewhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly what do you do? Do you have any
Speaker 1: other things? Saving trend to Thanksgiving traditions? Don't you eat breakfast?
Speaker 1: Like make breakfast too or something?
Speaker 2: No, that's Christmas, Christmas, there's a bit, but Thanksgiving afterwards
Speaker 2: we play banana grams, like me and all the kids
Speaker 2: and like nieces and nephews and everything, and it's become
Speaker 2: like a thing everybody sort of looks forward to. Because
Speaker 2: my sister in law's niece is just smarter than everyone,
Speaker 2: and so even when she was like little somebody we
Speaker 2: always had to pair up, and somebody would always have
Speaker 2: to we'd battle for who would be Alli's partner, because
Speaker 2: she's so brilliant, she would crush everyone.
Speaker 1: She still does. I get that, I know that partner,
Speaker 1: and so.
Speaker 2: Everyone's just battling for second place basically.
Speaker 1: Sure. Sure. We used to go to Disney World every
Speaker 1: year for Christmas, Thanksgiving, and so there were years we
Speaker 1: would do my aunt's house the years we didn't go
Speaker 1: to Disney but most of the time we went to
Speaker 1: Disney And so we'd go to the Grand Floridian and
Speaker 1: get a buffet for Thanksgiving. Oh yeah, it is legit.
Speaker 1: I mean it's legit. It's really good. And we would
Speaker 1: go to Disney World. The day before we would go
Speaker 1: to like Animal Kingdom, we would go to Universal. So
Speaker 1: we were I was talking to my brother today and
Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, we would have been in Florida.
Speaker 2: Do you guys think you'll now that you both have kids,
Speaker 2: do you think there's a chance to revive that?
Speaker 1: You know? I was thinking that, I think we're going
Speaker 1: to revive it, but just not at Thanksgiving because it
Speaker 1: is so crazy. Like we would go and the parks.
Speaker 1: My brother and I were older by the time we
Speaker 1: started going on our own, and like they would, we
Speaker 1: would go to a universal. My dad would just drop
Speaker 1: us off at like eight, us up at six, And
Speaker 1: so with the kids as young as they are, it's
Speaker 1: a little bit harder. There's a lot more to maneuver,
Speaker 1: and so I think maybe later in time, when they're older,
Speaker 1: we could do that again. But we we do want
Speaker 1: to meet in disney World at some point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that would be really cool and old enough
Speaker 2: where they can actually remember it totally.
Speaker 1: Like we're going to disney Land next week and on
Speaker 1: his first time. We're very excited.
Speaker 2: I can't watch, but I will. Yeah, you guys will
Speaker 2: have great pictures and things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true, it's true. And we usually watched the
Speaker 1: Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade. Do you remember when we were
Speaker 1: supposed to be on the Macy's things?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I felt like that happened a couple of years
Speaker 2: and we never got to do it.
Speaker 1: Well because it's NBC that was airing it and we
Speaker 1: were on Fox, so we got uninvited. So the first
Speaker 1: we're going to do, don't stop believing. Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: so excited because that wouldn't been my first time doing
Speaker 1: the Thanksgiving Day parade and that's like home for me.
Speaker 1: So it was really cool, and then we got uninvited.
Speaker 2: I was so excited. That feels like it's a monumental thing.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's so I got it.
Speaker 2: Let us on this float and let us lip.
Speaker 1: Sync, like put the thing on the bottom cast of Glee. Yea,
Speaker 1: I believe, and let us lip say some in some
Speaker 1: cute red sweaters and some ear muffs and like, let
Speaker 1: it be a thing. I was devastated.
Speaker 2: We started planning. I remember like talking to my family
Speaker 2: like I think they are maybe going to come to
Speaker 2: New York and yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really fun anyway, maybe for us.
Speaker 2: But it was always so stressful when we were filming
Speaker 2: because we're usually filming like a Christmas episode around this time,
Speaker 2: and then we didn't know we all had flights. Most
Speaker 2: of us did not live in LA or stay in
Speaker 2: LA for Thanksgiving, so then we always had to figure
Speaker 2: like are we going to make our flights? Like they
Speaker 2: were always red ice to New York, so you could
Speaker 2: usually make that if you got the latest fight. Well
Speaker 2: to Texas, there weren't really red ice.
Speaker 1: We're working on that Wednesday. We only got off for
Speaker 1: Thursday and Friday, and we had to be back at
Speaker 1: work on Monday and that Wednesday. There were some Thanksgivings
Speaker 1: that we were very really cutting it.
Speaker 2: I think there was one or two where I had
Speaker 2: to cancel my flight and find out Thanksgiving morning.
Speaker 1: I believe that because they're also rushing to get it
Speaker 1: done before the holiday. I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It was crazy. I have a game. It's would you
Speaker 1: rather Thanksgiving? Condition?
Speaker 2: Yes, let's do it.
Speaker 1: Okay, would you rather eat turkey every day by the
Speaker 1: rest of your life? Or never have potatoes again?
Speaker 2: I love potatoes.
Speaker 1: Oh, then I have to say eat turkey every day?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I'll eat turkey every day.
Speaker 1: Same. It's a lean meat, it is. If it's not dry,
Speaker 1: I'll so fast. Okay. Drink apple cider with gravy in it,
Speaker 1: or drink hot chocolate with cranberry sauce.
Speaker 2: Hot chocolate with cranberry, because I think cranberry and chocolate
Speaker 2: sounds like a dessert, so I feel like those probably
Speaker 2: pair better together.
Speaker 1: I was just thinking, like the cranberry sauce though, and
Speaker 1: hot chocolate, it's not a it's a different kind of cranberry.
Speaker 1: I'm going with apple cider and gravy.
Speaker 2: I think I might enjoy either of those. It's a
Speaker 2: wind wind for me.
Speaker 1: Fair enough. Shop on Black Friday or Cyber Monday.
Speaker 2: Cyber Monday. Stay at home. I'm not going out in
Speaker 2: those crowds.
Speaker 1: No, it's crazy. People get hurt. Yeah. Walk around with
Speaker 1: a pocket full of stuffing for a day dream or
Speaker 1: mashed potatoes.
Speaker 2: That's easy. That stays in there easily.
Speaker 1: Yes. Run in a turkey trot or do a polar
Speaker 1: bear plunge.
Speaker 2: What is a turkey trots?
Speaker 1: Like a mini marathon? Yeah, like a park marathon. Or
Speaker 1: do a polar bear plunge. I kind of like the.
Speaker 2: Polar I think I might do a polar plunge too.
Speaker 1: Actually, wow, it's good for you. Okay, cook the entire
Speaker 1: meal or do all the dishes?
Speaker 2: Oh, do all the dishes.
Speaker 1: Wow. Oh, there's something enjoyable.
Speaker 2: I would say every other time of the year, do
Speaker 2: the dishes for Thanksgiving because it's the one thing I
Speaker 2: can do. I think I would cook the entire meal.
Speaker 1: I would cook the meal too. Actually, I changed my mind.
Speaker 2: Can we do what would you rather? Glee Edition? Okay?
Speaker 2: You ready?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Would you rather have Thanksgiving at Curtain Blaine's House or
Speaker 2: Santana and Britney's House? Oh that's a good one. Oh man,
Speaker 2: Oh okay.
Speaker 1: Let me think about this. I'm going with Curtain Blaine
Speaker 1: because I feel like they'd be really good hosts.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna go with Santana and Brittany because I
Speaker 2: feel like their food would be so good.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Would you rather listen to the Glee version let's have
Speaker 2: a kieky turkey lurkey time every day for the rest
Speaker 2: of your life?
Speaker 1: Oh god?
Speaker 2: Or Gungham style.
Speaker 1: Oh that's a good one. Oh god, They're both so bad.
Speaker 1: Must have a kiki.
Speaker 2: I would say Kungham style. Wow, I get to hear
Speaker 2: your voice. Would you rather have a Thanksgiving meal cooked
Speaker 2: by Bert Hummel or Emma Pillsbury?
Speaker 1: I think Bert Hummel. I think actually Emma Pillsbury just
Speaker 1: feels like to too clean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think like Bert would get down dirty. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and maybe store bought, but that's fine in the garden.
Speaker 1: Would touch the bird, you know?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, If you're gonna buye one Glee character joining
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving dinner, who would it be?
Speaker 1: And why this is a tough one. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's really hard to separate the characters from the People, right,
Speaker 2: because I'm gonna the same.
Speaker 1: But that's not Mercedes. No, Susi Vester, because she'd be interesting.
Speaker 2: We have the same answers.
Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: Same, Okay, you're ready. Which character do you think would
Speaker 2: host the best Thanksgiving dinner?
Speaker 1: I'm going with Kurt and Blane. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Kurt for sure. If Glee character is supposed to a
Speaker 2: friends giving pot luck, which character do you think would
Speaker 2: bring the most interesting dish?
Speaker 1: Brittany Yes, definitely Brittany. Definitely Brittany or maybe Sam?
Speaker 2: Yes? What would Already bring? And what would Tina bring?
Speaker 1: Oh my god?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: I feel like Artie would bring dessert?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Or I feel like he might bring some sort
Speaker 2: of cast role.
Speaker 1: Oh that's good, like a green bean cast role. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he might bring green bean cast role. I
Speaker 1: think Tina would bring mash like sweet patadas.
Speaker 2: I am so hungry.
Speaker 1: Well, happy Thanksgiving everybody. We hope you're enjoying it. Thank
Speaker 1: you for listening. We're so grateful and thankful for all
Speaker 1: of you on this very weird holiday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, truly, hope you're surrounded by people you like, yes,
Speaker 2: And if you.
Speaker 1: Aren't, if you're not I hope you get this was
Speaker 1: a nice little way to get away reprieve.
Speaker 2: Yes, there's usually some holiday specials on TV, so maybe
Speaker 2: you can sneak away to listen to some good music.
Speaker 2: Thank you for listening, thank you for joining us, Thanks
Speaker 2: for spending your day with us for a little bit.
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