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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast. I am your host,

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Speaker 1: Chris Raybond, and I'm joined by the Prime Minister of

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Speaker 1: Degenerate Nation, my guy Stucky. We are gonna break down

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Speaker 1: team by team, the NFC South and the NFC East,

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Speaker 1: and then next episode was in part two with the

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Speaker 1: other two divisions.

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Speaker 2: But stuck.

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Speaker 1: How you feeling our three?

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Speaker 2: Let's keep it rolling, baby, NFC?

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Speaker 1: There you go, and uh as I mention, Woul jump

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Speaker 1: right in to the NFC. We'll go. Let's go South first,

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Speaker 1: Let's go Tampa Bay. I think this team is it

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Speaker 1: at risk with the departure of Liam Cohen. But what

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Speaker 1: do you think about all the injuries and at wide

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Speaker 1: receiver the departure of Cohen for this offense, you know,

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Speaker 1: same is this is this team still the cream and

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Speaker 1: the crop in this in the NFC South, which is

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Speaker 1: not a high bar.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're I have them as a favor to win

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Speaker 2: the division, but not overwhelming, but like it's it helps

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Speaker 2: them the Panthers and the Saints or in the division.

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Speaker 2: But I think, like I want to fade the Bucks.

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Speaker 2: I faded him last year. I was wrong. Baker was

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Speaker 2: great with Cohen and one thing I did mention our preseason,

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Speaker 2: I said Bucky Irving could really provide them a boost.

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Speaker 2: And he did. I mean, he was enormous, gave them

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Speaker 2: much more balanced and was so good across the board.

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Speaker 2: But the defense, I'm still not a believer, and especially

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Speaker 2: on the back end. They didn't do much to address it.

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Speaker 2: And look they they went three and five in one

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Speaker 2: possession games. But if you dig deeper, they did really

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Speaker 2: really benefit for out of schedule program. They faced Rattler twice, O'Connell,

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Speaker 2: rush Ritter de veto the Eagles without all their receivers.

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Speaker 2: They faced Jade and Daniels in his first ever start

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Speaker 2: on the road. In Week one, they against Detroit. They

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Speaker 2: were at gained by like a billion and somehow won

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Speaker 2: that game and if you look like what was there

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Speaker 2: the really impressive win without caveats was like the Chargers game.

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Speaker 2: That was basically it. But yeah, I want to sell

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Speaker 2: the Bucks. I'm not sure how I want to do

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Speaker 2: it yet. I mean, I project them nine to two

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Speaker 2: don't show a ton of value from a numbers perspective.

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Speaker 2: And then you mentioned the injuries, like you lost Cohen

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Speaker 2: and then Godwin McMillan. How at Tristan worse? Yeah, he

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Speaker 2: won't be available one of the best tackles in the

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Speaker 2: NFL early in the season. So yeah, I'm not buying

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Speaker 2: the Bucks. A lot of people are just betting the Bucks,

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Speaker 2: like to win the division, even money, no thank you.

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Speaker 2: So I kind of want to bet the Falcons to

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Speaker 2: win the division. And one of the things worth mentioning

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Speaker 2: is the Bucks with all these injuries without Cohen, they

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Speaker 2: the Falcons host the Bucks Week one. The Falcons also

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Speaker 2: week two. But with the Falcons, like they really need

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Speaker 2: their offense are basically running it back with Pennix, and

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Speaker 2: But it can't be worse than Cousins, who was hurt

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Speaker 2: and just look like he was throwing games. That's how

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Speaker 2: But if Cousin is healthy, like their backup quarterback situation

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Speaker 2: the Falcons they're running it back with Pennix on offense.

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Speaker 2: The one change is their center. Who you lose Dolmen,

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Speaker 2: Elijah Wilkins said, maybe Storm Norton is Storm Norton. I

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Speaker 2: So now the Falcons have injury questions early on in

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Speaker 2: they solve it, We'll see, still a TVD there. The

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Speaker 2: is an easy schedule, and it ended up being harder

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Speaker 2: than expected last year, like they finished like nineteenth, twentieth

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Speaker 2: and usually in this division, like I hadn't projected with

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Speaker 2: the bottom one of the three easiest schedules in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: So schedule ended up being harder than expected. It should

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Speaker 2: be easier this year. I have them favored in eight games,

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Speaker 2: a rookie quarterback, some suspensions, maybe some injuries. That's Week

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Speaker 2: two home against the Bills. That's at home off of

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Speaker 2: But this this McGarry injury, I think is not being

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Speaker 2: at right tackle. But I'm leaning betting the Falcons to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the Falcons just based on the price

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Speaker 1: The Falcons are plus two thirty to plus two fifty.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the better value. I think the Panthers

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Speaker 1: Who the Falcons? Yeah, Warner Warner, he was playing more.

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Speaker 2: But no Warner.

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Speaker 2: A drop off. They had a really old ross, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Exactly, you figured there was gonna be some drop off,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think north of two dollars, you got

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Speaker 2: a Falcons still win the division is to play.

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Speaker 1: Well at the Panthers. Panthers is Bryce Young, the guy

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Speaker 1: the guy that played respectably and dropped some some better

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Speaker 2: It's probably somewhere in between. But I liked what I saw.

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Speaker 2: He just looked a lot more comfortable, and just from

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Speaker 1: I'm hearing that I'm hearing that.

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Speaker 2: It looks like the Vikings. I think that's one of

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Speaker 1: It's hugely profitable. It tends to be profitable with those

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Speaker 1: NFC East. No one ever wins the NFC East two

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Speaker 2: Twenty four Eagles won it four times in a row

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Speaker 1: I cannot take these uh these contract like trade trade

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Speaker 1: demand Seriously, I know There's been a lot of trades,

433
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Speaker 1: but I've talked about these guys that are, yeah, I

434
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Speaker 1: want a new contract or like trade me. I just

435
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 1: can't take these seriously until they happen, like maybe it does.

436
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: But assuming he's there, I think Washington is the team.

437
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 1: I think the Eagles are, you know, just the schedule

438
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 1: is gonna be tougher. I think, you know, another offensive

439
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,239
Speaker 1: coordinator they could take. A defense got gutted a little bit,

440
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 1: still very talented, but I think Washington's is the best position.

441
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 1: I do think that the Giants, now that we've seen

442
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 1: that Dart like coming around on my Giants. Yeah, no,

443
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 1: only because the reason I say this is because I

444
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 1: think Dart had to play well in the preseason, regardless

445
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: of you know, I know it doesn't necessarily mean anything

446
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 1: in terms of how he's gonna play in the regular season,

447
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 1: but just playing well enough that he will get a

448
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 1: shot earlier because we know Russell Wilson is going to

449
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 1: allow that opening at some point. We know that. So

450
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 1: it was really just Dark needed to show enough that

451
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 1: you know, there's gonna be it's New York, there's gonna

452
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,199
Speaker 1: be fan pressure. You know, Dable likes them, so I

453
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: think everything's kind of falling in place for the Giants

454
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: to have one of those. It was it twenty twenty

455
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: two when they when they won eleven games with Daniel Jones. Yeah, yeah,

456
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: everything's falling in place. I think the defense, uh can

457
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,479
Speaker 1: be good and you know, pass rush, yeah they can

458
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: cover now.

459
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 2: I like the linebackers. I you know, I love Newban

460
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 2: they had Holland who I love. Safeties are better. A

461
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 2: de beat corner raises your floor a little bit. Phillips

462
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,199
Speaker 2: is good in the nickel. The other corner spot with

463
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 2: Banks is very questionable. But yeah, the defense with this

464
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 2: pressure and then proved secondary should be good. The offensive

465
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 2: line still bad, but it's better with healthy Thomas. The

466
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 2: weapons still not great, but you got neighbors. And the

467
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 2: quarterback play will be better in last year no matter what,

468
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 2: no matter if it's ross or dark, because last year

469
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 2: it was a disaster. It was like the veto and

470
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 2: lock in the Daniel Jones. It'll be better even if

471
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:09,719
Speaker 2: it's ross. So and last year the Giants were number one.

472
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 2: They were they were extremely unlucky. They were bad, but

473
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 2: they were They were one in eight one score games

474
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 2: with just atrocious quarterback play. And they lost their left tackle,

475
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 2: which was just a disastrous situation. They that's one probably

476
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 2: one team that can't afford to loser tackle the most

477
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 2: as the Giants, and they upgraded their defense, they upgraded quarterback.

478
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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think the Giants could surprise. I think

479
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take a little flyer and then they win

480
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 2: the division. I know it's crazy, but uh like twenty

481
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 2: five to one, yeah, I don't think and uh, I

482
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 2: mean I project them close to six. The reason is

483
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 2: even I'm higher than the market, the schedule is insane,

484
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 2: which it's unfortunate. Their schedule is so hard. Yeah, there's

485
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 2: no breaks, but uh yeah, when do we see the

486
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 2: Can they survive this brutal schedule?

487
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

488
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 2: I think they're worth a flyer. I lean over on them.

489
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 2: I kind of like the upside more than the wind

490
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 2: total because of how hard the schedule is. And then

491
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 2: they could go to Dart and you don't know, so

492
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 2: like maybe the playoffs or division is where I'm going.

493
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 2: I am low on the Eagles. I bet the Eagles

494
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 2: under still. I mean, I still have empowered as one

495
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 2: of the five best teams in the NFL, but I

496
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 2: project them ten to seven, so I went under eleven.

497
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 2: I half the last time we did that. Still like

498
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 2: that even a little bit juiced. I mean they lose sweat,

499
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 2: Sleigh Williams, C J. Gardner, Johnson, other defense, they should

500
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 2: take a step back. Although it's Fangio. Year two is

501
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 2: usually when there's a bump, and it was year one

502
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 2: with a bump. But they were lying on more depth

503
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 2: guys this year on defense, and they were extremely lucky

504
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 2: last year and with injuries. So they and we're already

505
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 2: seeing the injuries. Look at the offense, the offensive line,

506
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 2: the wide receivers, they're already seeing injuries on that side

507
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 2: of the ball. I'm curious see how the secondary plays out.

508
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 2: They really changed the directory of the team with finding

509
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: those two corners. Their secondary was in rough shape and

510
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 2: then they drafted Queen Own Mitchell and Cooper de Gene.

511
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 2: I'm curiously how it plays out. Like mcuba, who's now

512
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 2: dealing with an injury, but he could he win the

513
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 2: job over Sidney Brown. It's possible, Fania said. They today

514
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 2: not quite yet, but that's possible. Who gets the other

515
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 2: corner spot? Like Fano said, they're all like even it

516
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 2: could be even this kid McWilliams is in the mix,

517
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 2: Bennett is in the mix, Ringos in the mix, Jackson's

518
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 2: in the mix. Uh, there's also a chance like the

519
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 2: gene could play outside at corner if someone emerges at

520
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 2: the slot. So I'm curiously the safety's in the corner

521
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 2: and how all that plays out. But Eagle's still really good,

522
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 2: but probably do it for some aggressions. They probably won't

523
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 2: be playing from ahead the whole season and makee I

524
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 2: doubt there's no way that Barkley can have as good.

525
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: Of a year as he did four hundred and seventy

526
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: two touches. When you through the postseason, I didn't see

527
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: if he gets hurt, that changes the offense a lot.

528
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: I think now they have you know, they I do,

529
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: I do. I do think they can survive passing more.

530
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: But you mentioned it. You know, Brown has banged up,

531
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: Gottard was doing an injury. Smith was banged earlier in

532
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: the summer. Wilson their number four guy, just uh, you know,

533
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: got carted off, so he's gonna be out for looks

534
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,360
Speaker 1: like the year. So they traded for Mechi. I mean,

535
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: but yeah, this team without Barkley and his uh, what

536
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 1: was it eleven scores from outside the red zone. It

537
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: could be a like remember they were mid season, even

538
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 1: to the second half of the season, there were there

539
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: were whispers about Jalen Hurts and like his ability to

540
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: play quarterback.

541
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 2: That was last year, that all year until like the

542
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 2: second half the year. He's been very good in the playoffs.

543
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 2: But uh, yeah, this passing offense was not great. He's

544
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 2: holding the ball too long. And yeah, so the offensive

545
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 2: line even as injuries now and if anyone could hurt

546
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 2: on that offensive line, it's bleak. You want you wanna

547
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 2: Kenyon Green and there that guard, No, you don't want that.

548
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think that they're so one of the

549
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 2: best teams the NFL, but I think they're a little

550
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 2: overpriced and they could they could be two for some

551
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 2: regression in close games, injuries which we are already seeing.

552
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 2: Uh and a much much much tougher schedule. Their schedule

553
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 2: was a joke last year and now it gets much tougher.

554
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean you're talking games like road games

555
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 2: Green Bay, Dallas, Chargers, out West Washington, Buffalo, Minnesota, Tampa,

556
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 2: Kansas City. And by the way, the Giants and the

557
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 2: Cowboys will be better this year. You don't get to

558
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 2: play de Vito and whoever. The Cowboys were trotting out

559
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 2: Cooper Rush. He's on both Where's he? Where's he now? Yeah?

560
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 2: Better healthy?

561
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: I was not to say, man, that they usually have

562
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: a running guy. Why don't they have a running guy

563
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: this year?

564
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 2: Talk about an offense changing if like Jesus, Uh, yeah,

565
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 2: that's a good question. I don't know it's Cooper Russian

566
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 2: Devin Leary.

567
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: Because yeah, that's that's I think. Maybe they picked somebody up.

568
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, they probably would.

569
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: But Anthony Richardson, God, imagine they finally get over the

570
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: hump when Richardson were facking.

571
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 2: So, man, I mean, it would make the most sense

572
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 2: if he hurt. But yeah, So I went under on

573
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 2: Eagles and I went under in Commanders too. I know

574
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 2: you like the Commanders. I project them eight eight, so

575
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,239
Speaker 2: I'm much lower than the market. I went under nine

576
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 2: and a half. I looked. I mean, this team, they

577
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 2: were injury for you last year for the most part.

578
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 2: I know Daniels was banged up. They faced a comically

579
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 2: comically comically easy schedule filled with backup quarterbacks. They went

580
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 2: in four and one possession games. They were so elite

581
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 2: in the red zone, the greatest fourth down team of

582
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 2: all time. The schedule gets much harder that defense. I

583
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 2: still don't like. Now. I like Daniels, he proved it

584
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 2: to me.

585
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 3: But I.

586
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 2: What they need, how they can be proven wrong. McLaren

587
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 2: comes back, Debo's not washed, Latimore's not washed. If those

588
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 2: three things happen, this team has a higher ceiling in

589
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 2: my opinion. But I think they're a major regression candidate

590
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 2: and scheduled much tougher fourth down regression injuries that schedule.

591
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 2: There's a lot of red flags here with the Commanders,

592
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 2: so I'm selling even though I was wrong on Daniels,

593
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 2: he might prove me wrong again. And then with the Cowboys,

594
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, I'm selling the Eagles. I'm selling the

595
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 2: Commanders by the Cowboys, right healthy? Dat? I can't.

596
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: So oh yeah, no, no, no no no, not to

597
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, right No. I think you're selling the goes

598
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: in the Cowboys. So I would buy Washington and the

599
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: giant du project. The gub was seven to seven, like

600
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: over by one, but like what is I don't like

601
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: to hire, So let's start on the offense.

602
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, dak is healthier, downgraded coach that wasn't great last

603
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 2: year either, Yeah, and now what's he good at? Another injuries?

604
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 2: Another year older?

605
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: Best edition is a guy who could play himself off

606
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: the team.

607
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 2: If pickings like on paper, Yeah, like it's okay, you

608
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 2: got another weapon, a better weapon next to Lamb. But

609
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,719
Speaker 2: like Sean number wants to run the ball, but like

610
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 2: they're they they're not gonna do. They don't running backs.

611
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: Byles Sanders, Yavonte Williams, Jaden Blue and Phil Maffa and

612
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: Hunter Lepki some combination of those guys are gonna be

613
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: active each week in the backfield.

614
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 2: So they're just gonna come out and throw it a ton.

615
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 2: But then there that's not the strength of their offensive line.

616
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 2: They draft the Booker, We'll see if he can be

617
00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 2: the guy. The rookie at guard Giton injured, although I'm

618
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 2: not even sure he's that great. Smith is good, but

619
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 2: like I don't trust shot Nheimer and then the defense

620
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 2: is a mess.

621
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like Parsons is her about leadership too. At these

622
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: Parsons was like always kind of he spoke for everyone,

623
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: but now who knows even if he's there.

624
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 2: What is what is that?

625
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: You know? How does he kind of.

626
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 2: Proceed overshown, hurt Digs. What's going on with Diggs? That's

627
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 2: another viotal situation. Your rookie corner had a step back

628
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 2: that you wanted to. It's like you lost your nickelback Lewis.

629
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 2: It was good for you, and then they were so

630
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 2: bad in the red zone on both sides. They were

631
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 2: hurt a lot. So there's some positive aggression signs there.

632
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 2: But I don't even think Eberflus fits with what this

633
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 2: the strength of this defense and what Eberflus wants to

634
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 2: do schematically, it's a big change there. I don't get

635
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 2: the fit. The secondary is a mess, Parsons might get

636
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 2: traded over shown the d line is you lost Lawrence,

637
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 2: Like what, I can't get there with the Cowboys, and

638
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 2: it's such a violtal situation. So yeah, I'm close to market.

639
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,959
Speaker 2: I'm not selling the Cowboys, but I'm not buying them.

640
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 2: I thought I would be like, all right, it's gonna

641
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 2: be Cowboys to win the Division. No, I think I'm

642
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 2: gonna be the insane person that has a flyer on

643
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 2: the Giants twenty five to one to win the NFCS. Yeah,

644
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 2: I don't know.

645
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: I don't even hate it, and I think for me

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Speaker 1: and you know, for people listening. I mean, it depends

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Speaker 1: whether you agree with stuck your eye on commanders versus cowboys.

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Speaker 1: But I think the thing the key is the Giants

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Speaker 1: are just way underpriced, don't I don't think that should

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Speaker 1: push you off of Washington if you like Washington. So

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Speaker 1: for example, it's hard to click Giants twenty two to

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Speaker 1: one and then come back and also bet Washington at

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Speaker 1: you know, like plus two twenty or something like ten times,

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Speaker 1: you know, like ten x less. But I think Washington's

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Speaker 1: still set up really, really well. I think Debo the

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Speaker 1: key with him. You got to watch him in camp

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Speaker 1: and he did will better. It's about his weight and

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00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: I know last year he was he deal with pneumonia,

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00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: but he's never been a guy that's gonna beat coverage.

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Speaker 1: So I still agree that, like if mclauren's not in there,

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00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 1: there's there's it's it does get worries though, but Deebo,

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Speaker 1: it's more about like he was never a guy that

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Speaker 1: was gonna like beat coverage. But it's all about just

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Speaker 1: a speed and scheme. And then you know the fact

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Speaker 1: that you know, Robinson had a good year for them

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Speaker 1: and now he's on the trade block, you know that running.

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Speaker 2: Merit.

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Speaker 1: I think I have him like third, I moved him

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Speaker 1: up into the into the low thirties. I think, listen,

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Speaker 1: Chris Rodriguez been on this team for years. I know

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Speaker 1: we got the first reps, but I think the reason

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Speaker 1: if you're trying to trade Robinson to the point where

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Speaker 1: you're sitting him out and it's public and all that,

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Speaker 1: the one concrete change in the backfield is Jay is

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00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: crosskey Merrick, you know, being there. So I think ultimately,

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Speaker 1: whether it's week one or week five, like he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be the guy if if Robinson's trader, which it sounds

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Speaker 1: like it will. So I think he's good, like i've

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Speaker 1: I've I've been kind of monitoring him all summer and

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00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: you know he's had a great camp. I did think

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00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: they they I don't like when these teams have these

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00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: backs like up a check go for example, like that

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00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: they're somewhat hesitant to use in the receiving game because

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00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: we usually what happens is it's either a tell or

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00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: they try to like reverse tendency. And I don't when

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00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: you're just calling a player reverse tendancy, uh, Like I don't.

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00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: I don't think that's good either. So I like what

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00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: Washington's doing. I think Washington got a lot smarter over

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00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: his last couple of years, like Dan Quinn now in

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00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: Cliff and you got Daniels. I think this team's and

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00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: I like Wayne as at wide receiver. I think they'll

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00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: be okay is mccorn comes back, Ertz is still gonna

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00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: give him something. That tight end they got to not

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00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: waiting in the wings, and Baits good blocker.

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 1: I think the team is just solid all over. I

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00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: like the shots they're taking on defense. Yes, there's some

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00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: older guys, but think about where the defense was, you know.

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00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 1: I like and then the fact that you got Jayden

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00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 1: Daniels setting records for you know, the offense, setting records

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00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: on fourth downs and all that kind of stuff. Yes,

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00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: there will be some aggression, but the fact that they're

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00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 1: setting records in a guy in a quarterbacks rookie year

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00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: that was hurt in the middle of it too. That

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00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: had like to me. That also ways in where it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to rule out like this is the

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Speaker 1: next you know, I don't want to say Lamar Jackson,

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00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 1: but you know, this is the next week. Quarterback uh,

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00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: he's it's not gonna matter what's going on around them,

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00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:24,919
Speaker 1: And that can.

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Speaker 2: Very well be a Stroud situation. We don't necessarily know.

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Speaker 1: No, No, that's very fair. That is very fair. That

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00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 1: that is the that is the downside. But I think

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Speaker 1: with the Eagles being priced where they are, that's what

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00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: gives me, uh the you know, that's why I like Washington.

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Speaker 1: You know you're still getting them, you know, better than

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00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 1: two to one, whereas with Stroud it was like, oh

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00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: they were, they were installed as the favorite his his

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Speaker 1: second year. So I still like Washington. I think it's

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Speaker 1: it's harder to I'm just saying psychologically the Giants is,

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00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: it's gonna be easy if you click them first. So

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00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: maybe if you if you do want to bet some,

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00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: if you do want to faid, the Eagles are a

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Speaker 1: more realistic team, make your pick with the Cowboys or

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Speaker 1: the or Commander's first. I favor Washington, you favor the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: but then quick on the Giants because if you do

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Speaker 1: it the other way rounds, I think it's just gonna

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Speaker 1: be so it's like, ah, yeah, this sucks, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: what you got?

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Speaker 2: NFC South I lean Panthers under lean Saints over. Not

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Speaker 2: sure I'll get there. I want to fade the Bucks,

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Speaker 2: but I'm pretty close to market. I think I'll do

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Speaker 2: that by betting the Falcons to win the division. That

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Speaker 2: better than two to one NFC East. I'm fading the

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Speaker 2: Eagles and Commanders. Got both unders there, and then little

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Speaker 2: couch change lottery ticket on the Giants to win the division.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like the Giants to win the division, you know,

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Speaker 1: twenty or one or more, which is still still seems

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Speaker 1: to be out there across the market. Also, like the

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Speaker 1: Commanders to win the division. That's those are the long shot.

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Speaker 1: Is the Giants. The most realistic to you know, take

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Speaker 1: advantage of the Eagle struggle is the Commanders, Uh Eagles,

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Speaker 1: I mean under for them. And then in the NFC South,

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Speaker 1: I think it's Saints over. I ween Panthers under uh.

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Speaker 1: But i want to see where the market ends up.

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00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: That's when I'm not in any rush to bet, because

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Speaker 1: you know the fact that they were they were at

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00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 1: seven and a half at one points, and this division

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Speaker 1: is weak. I mean, I think things could kind of

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00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: fluctuate still, but I agree, I think the Falcons are

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00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: still the the best division pick. But I'm kind of

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00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: I'm hesitant to fade the Bucks too, because I do

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00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: think their GM goes under the radar, and I do think.

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Speaker 2: There's your recluding look at the given credit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you could look at the offense. It really

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00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: comes down to Cone and I rather just bet on

757
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,479
Speaker 1: the Jaguars where I'm getting good prices on Cone being good,

758
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: than fade the Bucks, like that's that's that's how I

759
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: think it's better. If you're going to tie up your money,

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00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: I think it's better spent, you know, just betting on

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00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 1: the Jags at plus three hundreds, then just you trying

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Speaker 1: to back to box it even money or whatever they are.

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