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Speaker 4: They're thirty in a row for.

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Speaker 3: The first time in five seasons off of Jake Moody.

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Speaker 2: That is Jeff Joniac on w MVP And yes, that

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Speaker 2: is Jake Moody finishing off a Bears upset victory on

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Speaker 2: a wild Monday night football double header. Twenty five for

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Speaker 2: the Bears, twenty four for the Washington Commanders.

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Speaker 4: On a night that featured some great running back performances.

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Speaker 2: Who would have thought it was the DeAndre Swift game,

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Speaker 2: just like that Falcons game was the Bajon Robinson game.

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Speaker 2: We are going to get to both of the great

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Speaker 2: double header games on this Monday night, all games, No

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Speaker 2: news with Nick Shook. When Jaden Daniels had the ball

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Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, Commanders driving up to what percentage

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Speaker 1: I think it was probably like below twenty percent. In fact,

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Speaker 2: point out all the positives, and the number one positive,

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Speaker 2: DeAndre Swift finishes with one hundred and eight yards on

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Speaker 3: Football at the forty five yard line.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's easy to forget that. Yeah, the Commanders came

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Speaker 4: To hear it, but they should just be so happy.

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Speaker 2: Like sometimes programs turn around and teams start to believe

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Speaker 2: I hated that call on a doonsay. I'm glad you

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Speaker 2: Jake Moody hit four kicks when they flash that up,

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Speaker 2: So let's just take a listen to the field goal

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Speaker 1: We weren't to left.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look at that though, but let's look at

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Speaker 1: I have a theory, Greg. Yes, we've talked about the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean it's a big job overcoming the

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Speaker 2: Moody shout out to the everyone in the chat right now.

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Speaker 5: That's it, right, tim the parents off the doll man

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's essential that you bring that up

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Speaker 1: takeaway from this game for the Commanders. Yes, the loss

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the most surprising thing to me in this game

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Speaker 2: that touchdown catch too, because that was the moment where

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Speaker 4: Did Zack Ertz touchdown? Tuckdown? Wash again?

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Speaker 5: This is stupid, baby, I can trust.

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Speaker 5: I could have to check it the day a perfect pass.

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Speaker 2: Bears fans are probably wondering, why do we have so

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Speaker 2: Yeah they are, and look it is a lot of

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Speaker 2: This is now like a little mini rivalry in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: The one little fly in the ointment is just a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it helps when you get a good day

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Speaker 2: in the Like, he shouldn't have needed that, But I

437
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Speaker 2: mean two hundred and thirty eight yards from scrimmage at

438
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Speaker 2: home on Monday Night football, their first home Monday Night

439
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,679
Speaker 2: football game actually in the Bajonna Robinson era to beat

440
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Speaker 2: Josh Allen in the Buffalo Bills. Yeah, like, I think

441
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Speaker 2: that qualifies. He also had six catches for sixty eight

442
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Speaker 2: yards in that mix of two hundred and thirty eight yards,

443
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Speaker 2: And I thought the way that they used him took

444
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Speaker 2: was awesome. Tonight he got to show off all of

445
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Speaker 2: his skills.

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Speaker 1: Yeah he did. I mean, I think that he needed

447
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Speaker 1: one of these breakout games in primetime stage in order

448
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Speaker 1: to bring the attention of the larger NFL fan base,

449
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Speaker 1: both domestically and internationally to the Atlanta Falcons, because he

450
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Speaker 1: plays in Atlanta, the Falcons who blew a tire last

451
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Speaker 1: year and missed the playoffs. Right, But like you know,

452
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Speaker 1: it would surprise a lot of people to learn that

453
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Speaker 1: he had a ton of scrimmageyards last year too. It

454
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Speaker 1: should not surprise you. We're all talking about Baker Mayfield

455
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Speaker 1: being in the MVP conversation put Bejon in there too.

456
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Speaker 1: I know running backs don't win it all.

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Speaker 2: Wait, I banned MVP conversation. We're not allowed to use

458
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Speaker 2: the words.

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Speaker 1: Oh, okay, offensive player of the Year Bjeon Robinson. There's

460
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Speaker 1: your loophole because he's having a hell of a start.

461
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Speaker 1: Like consider this real quick, Okay, two guys in NFL

462
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 1: history after tonight have had four hundred and fifty plus

463
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Speaker 1: rushing yards and three hundred plus receiving yards in their

464
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Speaker 1: first five games of a season, Thurman Thomas and Bjeon Robinson. Like,

465
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Speaker 1: he's off to an incredible start, and he was the

466
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Speaker 1: reason they won this game tonight with the numbers that

467
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Speaker 1: you just described, with the highlight that we just played.

468
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Speaker 1: He is one of the best, if not the best

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Speaker 1: running back in the NFL. He's looked like it since

470
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Speaker 1: he was at the combine. He just moves differently. He's dynamic,

471
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Speaker 1: he can do everything, and when they focus on getting

472
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Speaker 1: him the football, they are a much better team. And

473
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Speaker 1: tonight it came down to three guys Michael Pennix plus

474
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Speaker 1: b Jhon Robinson, Drake London and a little bit of

475
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Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts, and that was enough to win the game.

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Speaker 2: I'll throw in one other guy, have a Jeff Obrick

477
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Speaker 2: defensive quarterrier go or Raheem Morris. I mean, their defensive

478
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 2: plan against Josh Allen was amazing, and we will get

479
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Speaker 2: to that, but I think let's just to close the

480
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Speaker 2: circle on Bijon on this twenty four to fourteen victory.

481
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Speaker 2: By the way, I mean, they held the Bills to

482
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Speaker 2: fourteen points and most of the damage was in the

483
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Speaker 2: first half. But you think about that first drive, for instance,

484
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Speaker 2: and it just looked so easy, and he's lined up

485
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Speaker 2: all over the field, and the attention that he is

486
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Speaker 2: drawing as a receiver as a runner is opening up

487
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Speaker 2: holes for Drake London. And then you know sometimes they're

488
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Speaker 2: even telegraphing when they're gonna run, when they're gonna pass

489
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Speaker 2: out of the pistol, and yet it really doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: And I was wondering, like watching this game, man, like,

491
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Speaker 2: I know he plays outside sometimes, and I know he

492
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Speaker 2: plays in the slots sometimes, but this seemed a little extra,

493
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Speaker 2: And so I checked. He had fifteen snaps in the

494
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Speaker 2: slot tonight, six out wide. That adds up to twenty

495
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Speaker 2: one snaps essentially at wide receiver. That almost matches the

496
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Speaker 2: snaps that he took at running back. That is a

497
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Speaker 2: high for this season by a good amount. I didn't

498
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Speaker 2: go back to check. I'm guessing it is.

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Speaker 4: The high for his career.

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Speaker 2: And it's one of those offseason stories that's kind of cliche. Oh,

501
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Speaker 2: they're going to use him as a receiver. Oh, they're

502
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 2: gonna have two running backs on the field and stuff.

503
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Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, but your running back as a receiver

504
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,679
Speaker 2: is actually helping the defense out because he's not as

505
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Speaker 2: good as normal receivers except for one guy usually, and

506
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Speaker 2: that's Christian McCaffrey. And now I think we can make

507
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 2: it two guys, Christian McCaffrey and Vijon Robinson, who all

508
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Speaker 2: respect the CMC is not at the same level. But

509
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Speaker 2: Jhon Robinson was the number one Fantasy draftic and he's

510
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Speaker 2: been delivering week after week. Just an awesome performance by

511
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Speaker 2: the coaching staff An Robinson.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And the only thing that I think was missing today,

513
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Speaker 1: at least from a writing perspective, was I was really

514
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Speaker 1: hoping they would lean on him to close the game,

515
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Speaker 1: and then he's absent. I think he was gassed. They

516
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Speaker 1: went to Tyler Algier, which makes sense. He's a hard

517
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Speaker 1: running physical back that you want to get out there

518
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 1: to turn up those yards late in the game, get

519
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Speaker 1: the first downs, closed the game out because it would

520
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Speaker 1: have been the perfect Saquon arc, which is he starts fast,

521
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Speaker 1: he closes games. Because that's what the story of Saquon

522
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Speaker 1: was last year. But that's fine, because he's still fantastic.

523
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Speaker 1: It's and I'm glad you mentioned the defense too, because wow,

524
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Speaker 1: what a difference a year can make for a team.

525
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Speaker 1: A Falcons defense that was largely toothless last year has

526
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Speaker 1: completely transformed, had the perfect plan for Josh Allen, made

527
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Speaker 1: him look human, made him look uncomfortable for a variety

528
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Speaker 1: of reasons that we'll get into. But that was the

529
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Speaker 1: other key to this game, limiting the Bills output, forcing

530
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Speaker 1: more three and outs than they've had in a long time,

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Speaker 1: and just shutting down this offense and allowing their offense

532
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Speaker 1: to control the game when they had the football.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's a good idea to make it time for

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Speaker 2: who's delivered by uber eat, It's got to be the

535
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Speaker 2: Falcons defense. I mean, that's to me, who delivered all night?

536
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Speaker 2: And I could pick a few different plays, but why

537
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Speaker 2: don't we start at the back and work our way forward.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to the final bill's offensive play of the

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Speaker 2: entire game.

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Speaker 3: Let's see how many come here. Here's Alan up in

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Speaker 3: the pocket, Atlanta trying to shadow him. They'll move to

542
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Speaker 3: his left. He's gonna throw a gun into septic and

543
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Speaker 3: that ball is down on the play, and that's the

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Speaker 3: Angelo Malone after Zack Harrison deflected it.

545
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Speaker 2: Zach Harrison on the deflection there, and look they're down

546
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Speaker 2: ten there. They're just in hurry up mode trying to

547
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Speaker 2: make it happen. But I think it was typical of

548
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Speaker 2: a day where just Alan always had someone in his face.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, you can call me a hater as

550
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Speaker 1: much as you want. I'll take that. But there's nothing

551
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Speaker 1: other than good offensive line play that warms my heart

552
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: more than watching a defense send guys at mobile quarterbacks

553
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Speaker 1: from all angles to where when they try to break

554
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Speaker 1: the pocket, Oh no, I can't go there. I'm gonna

555
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Speaker 1: go the other way. Oh no, there's a defender there.

556
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, what am I gonna do? And it

557
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Speaker 1: just results in chaos. I love that because there needs

558
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: to be a counter to the modern quarterback, the dynamic

559
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 1: mobile quarterback, and when a defense can pull that off.

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Speaker 1: It's an example of great collaboration and also fantastic coaching

561
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Speaker 1: and game planning. And I think that's exactly what the

562
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Speaker 1: Falcons did tonight by caging Josh Allen, by sending pressure

563
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Speaker 1: on him. I think it was two plays prior. They

564
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Speaker 1: got a free rusher at him and Alli gets the

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Speaker 1: ball out for completion. But I think that's still stuck

566
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Speaker 1: in his head in that sequence where it's just like,

567
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Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm not gonna have time to throw

568
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Speaker 1: all night. I'm supposed to have a good offensive line.

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Speaker 1: They can't stop this rush right now. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what to do. He looked frazzled for most of the night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, We've got a great comment in the chat from

572
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Speaker 2: your co host Katie Caldwell, who said some of the

573
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Speaker 2: Bills play calling was outrageous. In Eliza Moore end around

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Speaker 2: on third and one. This is the time for you

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Speaker 2: to give the plug for your other podcast.

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Speaker 1: Katie Knows Ball. Check us out on the grid Iron podcast,

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Speaker 1: Iron and Brackets. We cover NFL and Formula one. Katie's

578
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Speaker 1: one of my co hosts, Sean Berry, who works for

579
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Speaker 1: Fox thirteen down in Tampa, as the other come check

580
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Speaker 1: us out because Katie knows ball.

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Speaker 2: See she absolutely does, and she's right that like plays

582
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 2: like that drive you crazy. What I would say is

583
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: is a play out of desperation because their normal stuff

584
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Speaker 2: just wasn't working, and that you know that didn't work either.

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00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 2: You can second guess so much, but two plays really

586
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 2: stand out to me as the ones that were indicative

587
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Speaker 2: of what happened tonight. They go for a fourth down

588
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 2: late in the game, in the fourth quarter, when it

589
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 2: still very much feels like, Oh, the Bills are going

590
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,479
Speaker 2: to come back in this, aren't they The Falcons are

591
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 2: gonna falcon And on fourth down, they send the heat

592
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 2: flush out Josh Allen to his left and he tries

593
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Speaker 2: to flip the ball forward instead of just making a

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Speaker 2: normal pass, which he it seemed like he had enough

595
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 2: time in room to do so, but he just tried

596
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 2: to like make a great play by flipping it forward.

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Speaker 2: And that reminded me so much. Shook of a third

598
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 2: down play in the first half where they had been

599
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Speaker 2: blitzing like crazy and they wound up blitzing fifty six

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Speaker 2: percent of the time tonight, and it reminded me so

601
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 2: much of a play in the first half a drive

602
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 2: killer on a third down where yes, the pressure was coming,

603
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 2: but usually Josh Allen extends that play and he just

604
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 2: kind of threw the ball at the feet the foot

605
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 2: of a receiver it was, I forget which receiver it was.

606
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 2: They lost Josh Palmer early in this game, and so

607
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 2: they were going deeper onto the bench and I was

608
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Speaker 2: just like, wow, Josh Allen just looks a little shook.

609
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Speaker 2: I'm going to give a ton of credit to the defense,

610
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 2: but it's also like the defense was making Josh Allen

611
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 2: not play very well, and those were two plays where

612
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 2: he did not stay calm and composed like he has

613
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Speaker 2: been for most of the last two seasons.

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Speaker 1: And outside of their first drive in which they went

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Speaker 1: down the field and scored a touchdown to mag Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: I think that that was pretty evident early on, so

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Speaker 1: much that it motivated Sean McDermott to make one of

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Speaker 1: those gutless punt decisions in the first half, like in

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Speaker 1: the second quarter where it's like fourth and three, they're

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Speaker 1: near midfield and they're down a touchdown good, and I'm like, dude,

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Speaker 1: gutless punt. Like Greg's gonna hate this, because why are

622
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Speaker 1: you punting here? It's fourth and three. I sincerely believe

623
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Speaker 1: they didn't think that they could get the fourth the

624
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Speaker 1: fourth down conversion because of how much they were struggling offensively.

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Speaker 2: Because of results like that, well, the numbers would indicate

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Speaker 2: you were right. And man, you think of this game,

627
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Speaker 2: and I just kept thinking, Wow, the Falcons that that

628
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 2: first half performance was incredible on defense. They can't they

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Speaker 2: need their offense to keep scoring, which they really did

630
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Speaker 2: in the second half. They need to keep going or else, like,

631
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Speaker 2: they can't count on winning this game. And the defense

632
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 2: just kept getting stop after stop after stop. They finished

633
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Speaker 2: the Bills with six punts, one turnover on downs, which

634
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 2: we just talked about, and then the interception. Even before

635
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Speaker 2: the late interception, he ended up with two interceptions, right, So,

636
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Speaker 2: like that is an incredible performance by a defense that

637
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Speaker 2: wasn't really winning a lot like one on one up front.

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Speaker 2: If you look at their pressure numbers, it's really spread

639
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Speaker 2: out out. Yeah, Like I don't even know who to

640
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 2: single out from their pass pressures. Who I would single

641
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 2: out is their linebackers, Divine Diablo and Caden Ellis. To me,

642
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,719
Speaker 2: they were kind of the key for this game, not

643
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 2: just in terms of the pressure but just the entire defense,

644
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Speaker 2: like I said, fifty eight percent blitz forty four percent

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Speaker 2: pressure rate. And you compare the numbers to the Bills,

646
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Speaker 2: who were twenty percent blitz rate and a lot of

647
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 2: those were late and only twenty five percent pressure rate.

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00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 2: So they're not as aggressive and they're not getting home

649
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Speaker 2: or to the quarterback nearly as much.

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Speaker 4: How about that.

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Speaker 2: The Atlanta Falcons have a difference making defense in the

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Speaker 2: year twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: I know, it's a beautiful thing you talk about spread.

654
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: There was four guys with three pressures, four guys with

655
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: two pressures, three guys with one pressure. And even the

656
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: four sacks they racked up, each one was by a

657
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: different player. David an Yamata, Rucu, Roo d Alford, and

658
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: Sam Roberts, like three defensive linemen and a dB like

659
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: they brought it from all these different angles, and I

660
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: think that that really complicated the picture for Josh Allen

661
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: on a night in which he was never comfort And

662
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: if you look at the Falcons defense statistically, they were

663
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: like first in the NFL in a number of different categories.

664
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: They were tied for six for sack percentage. So this

665
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: is not an aberration. This is not a one off

666
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: on a primetime stage. This is who they've been all

667
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: year and that's what makes it really exciting to track

668
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: them because you can kind of flush that whole thirty

669
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: to zhering loss to the Panthers as just chalk it

670
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: up to we had a bad day. We're going to

671
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: burn the tape. Otherwise, they've been competitive in pretty much

672
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: every game and frankly, if the Buccaneers don't hit that

673
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: field goal, or if Young Heyku doesn't miss that field

674
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: goal at the end of that Week one game, they

675
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: might have another win in their in their tally. Like

676
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: they're they're a fun team to watch.

677
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 2: Yet they had not given up three hundred yards in

678
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 2: a game until tonight, and I don't.

679
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: Believe no, they finished in two ninety one.

680
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Bills were just under that for tonight, so

681
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 2: they you know, yardage Dvoa their number one. They're already

682
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 2: have more sacks right now than they've ever had for

683
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 2: as a Falcons franchise through this point in the season.

684
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 2: And I've been kind of dis pointed by their first

685
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 2: two draft picks, Jalen Walker and James Pierce, which is,

686
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 2: you know, Jalen Walker had a big play on special

687
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 2: teams tonight. They've each you know, popped up with a

688
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 2: hurry here or there, but they're not playing that much

689
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 2: their first two picks. Yeah, and they gave up a

690
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 2: first round pick, you know, for Pierce to the Rams,

691
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty six pick and the one thing to

692
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 2: the credit you know of this front office and shout

693
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 2: out to you know, Patrick Claybon who put Terry Fontina

694
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 2: in the top ten GMS and never heard the end

695
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 2: of it for me and from our listeners in the offseason. Well,

696
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 2: Patrick Claibon's laughing at you right now because all the

697
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 2: moves that he's made. It's it's getting them to a

698
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 2: pretty fun place. Anyways, my larger point was these two rookies,

699
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 2: if nothing else, what they've done and the way they've

700
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: built the defense and the rookies are helping here. They

701
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 2: have so much depth, so many different types of players,

702
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 2: so many players that they can play that it really

703
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 2: does support this crazy pressure package and all the different

704
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 2: things that Ulbrick and Raheem Morris want to cook up. Like,

705
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 2: they have enough dudes with different skill sets to do

706
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 2: that that are versatile, so they are supporting them in

707
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 2: that way, and they're playing really good team defense.

708
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not a Star Layden defense. Their most notable

709
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 1: players exist in their secondary, which, by the way, shout

710
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: out to aj Terrell, who basically erased Keon Coleman tonight

711
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: because he wouldn't stop fallowing him around the field. That

712
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: hurt the Bills offense as well. And I think that

713
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: when you are a su of parts defense and the

714
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: sum ends up being greater than your parts because of

715
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 1: the versatility that it offers you. That will travel and

716
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: that will give you a shot against some of the

717
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: perceived top tier teams in the NFL, which I don't

718
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: know if Buffalo is. If you look at their resume

719
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: right now, I'm gonna say team that speaten so far

720
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: didn't win this last week. Most of them are some

721
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: of the worst teams in the NFL. And the last

722
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: two teams that they've played, the Patriots and the Falcons,

723
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: have brought the fight to them and they've backed down

724
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: in both of those games. Another thing that a common

725
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 1: thread between those two games. And I know I'm harping

726
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: on two losses and the sound like a hater, and

727
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,919
Speaker 1: that's fine. Josh Allen officially has a problem with throwing

728
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 1: picks over the middle of the field, because the picky

729
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: through tonight looked a lot like the pick Marcus Jones

730
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 1: got on him against New England and Buffalo in primetime

731
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: as well. So I don't know if it's take him

732
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: off of primetime or if it's figure out your offense.

733
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: It's the ladder, it's not the former.

734
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, they did beat the Ravens in Week one,

735
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 2: and I know the Ravens haven't you know, looked so

736
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 2: great since. But that was an incredible quarter out of

737
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 2: the Bill's offense. But I think the Cracks were showing

738
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 2: for their defense, yeah already, and the defense was driving

739
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 2: all the Bills fans crazy. You know, in the first

740
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 2: half of this game, they just looked like a SIV.

741
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 2: They gave up one hundred and fifty four yards on

742
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 2: miss tackles, and you know a lot of that was

743
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 2: on the John Robinson run because Cole Bishop had a

744
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 2: chance to get him down with about forty yards to go,

745
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 2: but there was about another one hundred and ten yards

746
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 2: of misstackle yardage there as well. So look, they have

747
00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 2: really struggled defensively. Josh Allen doesn't look this and you're

748
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 2: right when you look at the teams that they beat

749
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 2: other than the Ravens, it was the Jets, it was

750
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 2: the Dolphins, it was the Saints, and we kind of

751
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 2: gave like the Dolphins and Saints pats on the back. Oh,

752
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 2: you competed with the Bills. You covered, I mean the

753
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 2: you know, good teams win, great teams cover. I mean,

754
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 2: when was last time Bill's covered in a game? I

755
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 2: guess they just that Jets game, because you know, everyone

756
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 2: keeps either beating them or becoming closer. By the way,

757
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 2: we should point out, because we're done talking about the

758
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 2: Falcons defense.

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Speaker 1: I mean yeah, and you know what, Look, sometimes it

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Speaker 2: There you go I for no reason other than I

770
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Speaker 2: want to see it. And we really appreciate everyone who

771
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Speaker 2: is making these Monday nights really fun in the comments

772
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 2: and watching and obviously everyone listening to us on the podcast,

773
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 2: but when you watch it on YouTube, you get to

774
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 2: look at the highlights. We have the rights the highlights,

775
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 2: and it's a beautiful thing. And I know it's crazy,

776
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 2: Shuk and I thought this game was gonna go much

777
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 2: differently when I suggested that Josh Allen's incompletion against a

778
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 2: blitz in the first quarter, I'm actually gonna throw it

779
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 2: up there for a Throw of the Year nominee, because

780
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 2: they get a blitzer clean on him falling backwards and

781
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 2: he drops an absolute dime in the bucket to Khalil Shakir,

782
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 2: who's not even that open over d Alfred Robert Alford,

783
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 2: who has had a good night tonight. And you know,

784
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 2: the review shows Khalil shakers out of bounds. But my god,

785
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 2: that was an incredible throw. So even on a bad night,

786
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 2: Josh Allen can do things that just make you say wow, shouldn't.

787
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he's still a superhero. He just looked

788
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: rather mortal over the last two weeks against defenses that

789
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: have the right plan for end. I don't know if

790
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: the blueprints necessarily out I think it's more about the

791
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: Bills kind of looking in the mirror, circling the wagons

792
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: like the Buffalo Bills do, and figuring out what they

793
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: need to do, which, by the way, stop going away

794
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: from James Coke in the fourth quarter. I know it

795
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: wasn't working in the third quarter, but my god, you're

796
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: in a one score game. Keep giving one of your

797
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: best players the football. It will work eventually, for God's sake.

798
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: It's been a point of frustration for me for the

799
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: last two games for the Bills. I hope it doesn't continue.

800
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that is an awesome point shook because

801
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 2: look you saw with that play like what they needed

802
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 2: to do to complete passes against the Blitz. It was

803
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 2: a humbling night, I think for Allen as the guy

804
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 2: who's now I think thought of and known as one

805
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 2: of the sharpest quarterbacks in the league. I watched every

806
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 2: game of Tom Brady's career, by the way, you know,

807
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 2: once or twice a year, no matter how old he got,

808
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 2: like a defense confused him, a defense got him like

809
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 2: that's football, Like they would dominate and surprise tom Brady

810
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 2: like it does happen. But on a night where that

811
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 2: seemed obvious. Their success rate running the ball on design

812
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 2: runs was sixty percent. Cook was doing great all night.

813
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 2: Josh Allen was scrambling pretty well. But Cook goes seventeen

814
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Speaker 2: for eighty seven.

815
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Speaker 1: So I think that with one carry in the fourth quarter,

816
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:10,479
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

817
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 2: You know last week, I can defend it the way

818
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,240
Speaker 2: the gameplay was going and the way they were stuff

819
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 2: and Cook for the most part, like I could defend it,

820
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,240
Speaker 2: I can't defend it here. So I mentioned the injuries

821
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 2: in this game. There were quite a few. Joshua Palmer

822
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 2: leaves early with a knee injury and that led to

823
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 2: a lot of time for Tyrrel Shavers. That was the

824
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 2: man who was targeted on that fourth down. I was

825
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 2: trying to think of her third down in the first half.

826
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 2: So a lot of Shavers, a lot of khalilshak here.

827
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 2: But that's an injury to watch. And then Treel Bernard,

828
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 2: their linebacker, was out for most of the second half

829
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Speaker 2: of this game and I do not think ever returned

830
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 2: to the field. And then for the Falcons, they lost

831
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 2: their left tackle, Jake Matthews. So let's wrap up actually

832
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 2: giving a little bit of love to the Falcons.

833
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 4: You know, the the.

834
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 2: Michael Pennox experience is consistently inconsistent, and he ends up

835
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 2: had a very similar night I think to Caleb William

836
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 2: where you look at the numbers, two hundred and fifty yards,

837
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 2: got the touchdown, got the win. They did well enough.

838
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 2: He did well enough to win. There were a couple

839
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:15,439
Speaker 2: of near interceptions late there. There are a couple curious decisions.

840
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 2: There were some dimes too. If you watch him, this

841
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 2: is kind of who he's settling in to be this season.

842
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 2: Evaluate for me the experience with keeping in mind that

843
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 2: the points scored in the first half are worth just

844
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 2: as much as the lack of points I guess in

845
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 2: the second half.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean he had a touchdown pass e

847
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 1: Race by Drake London's foot going out of bounds in

848
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: the one yard line as time expired the first half,

849
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: so we could have added that to his ledger. But yeah,

850
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: there were times where he would overthrow guys. If you're

851
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: watching on YouTube, you're seeing that completion of Drake London

852
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: where he's out running Taylor rep to the goal line,

853
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: and it looked like he got in it first on

854
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: first look, and then the replay shows his right foot

855
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: steps out at almost exactly the one as he's reaching

856
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: for the pylon, which took away like big excitement in

857
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: that moment because it was like the Bill deserve that

858
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: because they had a turnover which gave the Falcons just

859
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: enough time to try that, and it was an aggressive

860
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 1: attempt by Drake London. It was like, oh, this is

861
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: like karma football, karma paying off right now for the Bills.

862
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 1: But overall, the Drake London experience is exactly how you describe,

863
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: which is that it is consistently inconsistent. But it's not negative,

864
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: it's not discouraging. It's just you gotta find more consistency.

865
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Speaker 1: I hete to say that because it sounds overly reductive,

866
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: but what he has a live arm. He overthrows guys

867
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: sometimes he did tonight. He also leans on he has

868
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: a favorite in Drake London, and he's always looking at

869
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: him and essentially his from what I've seen so far,

870
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: it's is Drake London open no is Kyle Pitt's open

871
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: no check out to Bijan Like that's kind of the

872
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: process that he's going through right now, and I understand

873
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: that's that's his top three guys, right. He will get

874
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: better over the course of a season. I think that

875
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: his processing is better than some young quarterbacks that we've seen.

876
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: It's still better than justin fields, and that is all

877
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: a positive. It's just that he's not going to be

878
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: a star overnight. If you think of Josh Allen's career

879
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: took him multiple years and changing his throwing, you know, form,

880
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: his technique and everything else before he became who he was.

881
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: Just give it time, he'll be fine.

882
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

883
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 2: He had another decision where he kind of locked in

884
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 2: to Casey Washington on the third down when he's well

885
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 2: covered by Tron Johnson, and he didn't face much pressure

886
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 2: on that play. He didn't face a ton of pressure

887
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 2: overall on the night, but it was like he just

888
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 2: made that decision when there were more open receivers with

889
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 2: better matchups elsewhere on the field. I thought there were

890
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 2: a couple of moments like that. He also on the

891
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 2: last Falcons drive when they ended up kicking the field

892
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 2: goal to go up ten, the only thing that they

893
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 2: could possibly do to lose the game then was turned

894
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 2: the ball over and he threw it right over the

895
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 2: middle to awaiting Shack Thompson, who played well tonight.

896
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 4: I thought, you know, now the year.

897
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, like a ageless Shack Thompson, and Shack Thompson, you know,

898
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 2: just couldn't pull in the interception after anticipating the play,

899
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 2: and we would be talking about Penix' night, you know,

900
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,439
Speaker 2: quite a bit different if that happened. But I also

901
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 2: don't want to forget the dimes. So let's let's actually

902
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 2: go back to the first half and let's see the

903
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 2: touchdown throw that did stand up to Drake London.

904
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 3: There's London moving out on the wide side. They take

905
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 3: the snap, here's Pennix, Michael Luk rips it, London stretches

906
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 3: the ball across.

907
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 4: That's a touchdown for Atlanta.

908
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 3: By goodness, what a play.

909
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 6: I loved it.

910
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 4: What a touch and.

911
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 3: Then the presence of mine to reach it chucker right

912
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 3: over the white line for the scoreble with.

913
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 1: So this play is like a he's a quarterbat laid

914
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: on that throw, but he's got such a strong arm

915
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: that he can still fit it in there. He put

916
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: it in the right spot and it was great play

917
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: design where he had a receiver kind of take away

918
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: the defender inside. They're basically playing like I think it

919
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 1: was covered two on the goal line and just making

920
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: a picket fence and he just it's kind of a

921
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: spacing concept where he just sits down right there, you

922
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 1: put on the inside with the defender and outside leverage, Boom, touchdown.

923
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: And you could do that because you have the arm talent,

924
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: which is why we obsessed with arm talent on quarterbacks

925
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: who come out of the draft because it matters in

926
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: tight windows in the NFL, and there's a ton of

927
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: them in the NFL.

928
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he showed it off tonight and like that

929
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 2: was one of those plays where when he reaches that out,

930
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 2: like you can just imagine it getting getting knocked out

931
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 2: and that would be such a Falcons play. And you

932
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 2: mentioned that the end of half sequence when they did

933
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,240
Speaker 2: not get that touchdown. Even though it was a little

934
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 2: bit of found money, it was such a unique play

935
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,240
Speaker 2: where you're thinking at first, like get out of bounds,

936
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 2: Drake London, so you can so you can kick, you know,

937
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 2: for the three points, and then you realize, oh, it's

938
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 2: all or nothing. He's either gonna score a touchdown or

939
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,760
Speaker 2: you're getting zero points. And it was so surprising because

940
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 2: you mentioned the turnover that was the clunker of a

941
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 2: Josh Allen interception just trying to do too much and

942
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 2: then he comes up short and the you know, the

943
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 2: Bills go into halftime down twenty one to seven, and

944
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 2: they get a quick touchdown coming out of the break

945
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 2: and you're like, oh man, that's seven points they didn't get.

946
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 2: That's that's gonna haunt them all night. But the defense

947
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 2: just didn't let it happen. Pretty awesome, an awesome performance

948
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: by another team. Look, this NFL is really heavy in

949
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 2: terms of the upper middle. There's a lot of teams,

950
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 2: and I still consider the Bills one of those teams.

951
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 2: They're four and two. The Falcons are three and two,

952
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 2: where it's just like, all right, you're in position like

953
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 2: you got a pretty good chance to make the playoffs.

954
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 2: I have no idea how to separate about ten to

955
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 2: twelve of those teams. This Bill team still has Josh Allen.

956
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 2: They've shown that they can figure things out as the

957
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 2: season goes along. I've seen some bad Sean McDermott defenses

958
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 2: where everyone thinks he's going to get fired by the

959
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 2: end of the year, and somehow he turns it around

960
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,280
Speaker 2: even after. You know, Tyler Dunn writes a big feature

961
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,240
Speaker 2: about how he used nine to eleven as a motivational pactic.

962
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: Blake Oh, I was wondering if you're going to bring

963
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: that up. They're missing, They're missing personnel. They don't have

964
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: Matt Malonell. They had three healthy defensive tackles tonight at

965
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: Oliver just came back from the party. They got to

966
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: get guys back. But I don't want to discount that

967
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 1: because that does matter.

968
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 2: But yeah, they always have lalls, They always have lulls.

969
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 2: And in the Falcons defense, they were playing Mike Jarrell

970
00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 2: at left tackle and Elijah Wilkinson at right tack go

971
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 2: by in the second half of this game, and they

972
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 2: really need Jake Matthews to come back. I mean, that

973
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:09,720
Speaker 2: is as troubling a tackle combination and pass protection as.

974
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 4: You'll ever see.

975
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 2: And that's I think part of the reason why the

976
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 2: offense slowed down so much in the second half. Like

977
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 2: had I believe near one hundred and fifty one yards

978
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 2: at halftime yards from scrimmage, so most of them were

979
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 2: in the first half. Dake London had one hundred and

980
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 2: forty seven yards at halftime like fantasy games were one

981
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 2: in the first half, and then he only added you know,

982
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 2: eleven more yards. But he does end up with ten

983
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 2: for one fifty eight and a touchdown. Last thing on

984
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 2: the falcons before we go. I love that we had

985
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 2: John Robinson and just to kind of close the circle

986
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 2: on him on a night where he announced himself yes

987
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 2: as an award potential candidate. My whole thing with the

988
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 2: MVP conversation took. It's just like, you know, what is

989
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 2: this conversation? Just why are we talking about a conversation?

990
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 4: Just have it?

991
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 7: Just say it, you know, I mean, it's a flaw

992
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:06,760
Speaker 7: a week, it's week it's week six. Yeah, here's the clue.

993
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 7: None of this is going to really matter in the

994
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 7: MVP talk. Like stats that they're cumulative and they will

995
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 7: still count, but ultimately it's basically what you do from

996
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 7: week eleven and twelve onwards that matters. And yeah, we're

997
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 7: gonna winnow out a lot of players, but there's gonna

998
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 7: be a lot of players in the mix going into

999
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 7: week ten or eleven, and then that's when you really

1000
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 7: figure and.

1001
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: Is your team good? Like that's the other criteria. Your

1002
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: team has to be good. There's no envy, there's no

1003
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: Jerry West losing the NBA Finals and winning NBA Finals MVP.

1004
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: That doesn't happen in the NFL. Your team has to

1005
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,760
Speaker 1: be good too, so that helps us kind of sorted

1006
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: out as well. It's fun fodder for now you gotta

1007
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 1: fill some time somewhere.

1008
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 2: Something about the phrase, oh why didn't he should be

1009
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 2: in the MVP conversation? It's well, I think week six

1010
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 2: is the same, Like I would have him top five

1011
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 2: for MVP, like put say something specific, is what I'm saying,

1012
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 2: because he's in there. You can only vote for three guys,

1013
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 2: you can you know, five guys. Someone's asking if he's

1014
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 2: in the Offensive Player of the Month conversation.

1015
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, you know what he is.

1016
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 2: He's in the NFL Daily Guest of the Week conversation,

1017
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 2: maybe of all time conversation. I thought it was really

1018
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: interesting the question that Jordan rod Rieg asked about the

1019
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 2: way that he gets extra vision lining up in the pistol.

1020
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 2: Let's actually listen to him talking last week on the show.

1021
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 6: For me, it's just you know, using using my vision

1022
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 6: and just anticipating what's coming before it even happened, for

1023
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 6: the play even starts, and for me, like you know,

1024
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 6: it's very important to use my eyes at a very

1025
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 6: high level. And some manipulate linebackers, safetyes, uh d, lineman,

1026
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 6: just just every every one of them, because when I

1027
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 6: do that, and when I'm controlling the pace of the game,

1028
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 6: then then everything else is taking care of yourself.

1029
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: So that's a good brand deal. By the way, Codate total,

1030
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: he is the total back.

1031
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 4: There you go, vision, power, speed.

1032
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 2: I love the question from Jordan and she loves she

1033
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 2: loves the pistol offense. And I think tonight was a

1034
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 2: great sign that even if on this particular Falcons team,

1035
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 2: like the pass and the run aren't always married up,

1036
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 2: there are a lot of big time advantages And Baijon

1037
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 2: talked about it there and his vision to me is

1038
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 2: second to none.

1039
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 4: Right now in the league statement win season changing win?

1040
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 2: Are the Bills going to be one of those teams

1041
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,919
Speaker 2: that just like every time they lose, everyone's like, oh,

1042
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 2: the Patriots have arrived. Oh now the Falcons have arrived.

1043
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 2: There are like there are tennis players to use an

1044
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 2: example that probably most of our listeners don't care about that,

1045
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,720
Speaker 2: like it's like, oh, that's the biggest win of his career.

1046
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 2: That it's people that just are always handing out those wins. Stefan,

1047
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 2: you know, Stefano sits a pass back in the day.

1048
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 2: A top five guys Alex verv.

1049
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 4: Oh, it's the biggest win of their career. He beats

1050
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 4: number four.

1051
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 2: It's like, well, it's not the biggest win of your

1052
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 2: season if the Bills are just kind of an average team.

1053
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's why we play the game. Parody is

1054
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: maybe at an all time high right now, at least

1055
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: it feels like it.

1056
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 4: It is like in the mid upper middle.

1057
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,879
Speaker 2: And yet we still have like eight teams I feel

1058
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 2: like we can cross off, including the Tennessee Titans. Brian

1059
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 2: Callahan was fired on Monday. It's no longer even Monday

1060
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,439
Speaker 2: where Shook is taping because these games were so good

1061
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 2: and we love, you know, serving this doubleheader as much

1062
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 2: attention as it can get. We're going to talk about

1063
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,479
Speaker 2: the Callahan firing all the other news that has come

1064
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 2: down on our Tuesday show in the studio with Jordan

1065
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 2: rod Rieg. So so stay tuned for that one. And yeah,

1066
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,720
Speaker 2: this was an absolute pleasure, Nick Shook.

1067
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, doubleheaders they're good and they're bad, but when the

1068
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 1: games are good, they're more good than bad.

1069
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 2: That has beautifully said from an NFL dot com writer

1070
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 2: who still has some writing to do. Sorry with that tonight,

1071
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 2: I want to point out to everyone that's the last

1072
00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 2: simultaneous doubleheader in NFL history. Roger Goodello doesn't like it.

1073
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 2: They're off the schedule indefinitely starting next year. They're not

1074
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 2: part of the TV package.

1075
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 4: Like, that's it.

1076
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 2: We have one more double headers, so if you love

1077
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 2: the double headers, we got one more for you next week.

1078
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 2: We'll be live then, but they're separated, no more simultaneous.

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Speaker 4: We'll see you that