1
00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:05,920
Speaker 1: Welcome to Sharper Square, presented by Hard rods Bett. We

2
00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,799
Speaker 1: are part of the Volume and Podcast Network. This is

3
00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,920
Speaker 1: the betting show that makes the squares sharper. It makes

4
00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,680
Speaker 1: the wise guys pay attention. I am Chad Milman. I'm

5
00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:21,400
Speaker 1: joined as always by my co host, mybff, my companion,

6
00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:28,320
Speaker 1: my compadre professional better Simon Hunter. Hello, so I'm in Chad.

7
00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,720
Speaker 2: It has been an amazing weekend for a person like

8
00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:33,040
Speaker 2: me that is the ultimate hater.

9
00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,680
Speaker 3: And what I mean by that is people don't know.

10
00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,600
Speaker 2: I want success from my own teams, but I want

11
00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,239
Speaker 2: failure for the teams I hate, And this was an

12
00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,560
Speaker 2: amazing weekend if you hate.

13
00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:47,040
Speaker 3: The Mets like I do. The Mets had a historical metdown.

14
00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:48,920
Speaker 2: I know people don't follow base was the football show,

15
00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,320
Speaker 2: but basically the Mets were shooing to make the playoffs

16
00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,960
Speaker 2: and had an epic collapse and did not make the

17
00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:56,520
Speaker 2: playoffs literally on the last.

18
00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:57,360
Speaker 3: Game of the year.

19
00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,560
Speaker 2: And again, as a Philly I get it. We're I

20
00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,479
Speaker 2: think the favorite the winning words series Baseball. That means nothing.

21
00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,840
Speaker 2: It's so fluky. You need a ton of luck. The

22
00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,520
Speaker 2: right guys get hot. So as a baseball fan, I

23
00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,920
Speaker 2: truly am a hater. Watch the fact that the Mets

24
00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:13,520
Speaker 2: are already out. I got no, I don't have to

25
00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,199
Speaker 2: wear the braves the Mets. The Phillies loose to the Reds,

26
00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,360
Speaker 2: I will be upset, but I won't be as upsays

27
00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:19,880
Speaker 2: I would be if it's a Mets. So yeah, it

28
00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,160
Speaker 2: was an amazing weekend.

29
00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:23,559
Speaker 4: He pulls one on the ground of chance for two

30
00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,560
Speaker 4: to second, one back to first, and the Mets agonizing

31
00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:34,160
Speaker 4: three and a half month slow motion collapse is complete.

32
00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:40,640
Speaker 4: It is unfathomable that this collection of talents winds up

33
00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,720
Speaker 4: outside of an expanded playoff system.

34
00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,600
Speaker 2: And then even better, Cowboys tied. Couldn't even got to

35
00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,040
Speaker 2: win the Cowboys, they had to tie game. So very

36
00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,920
Speaker 2: fun weekend for someone like me as a Phildelphia sports fan.

37
00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:56,200
Speaker 1: Listen, I am a huge Phillies fan, as you and

38
00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,040
Speaker 1: I discussed, even though I'm from Chicago. Obviously, the Cubs

39
00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,080
Speaker 1: are my loyalty, and I'm gonna want the Cubs to

40
00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,880
Speaker 1: advance and win the World Series. But you know how

41
00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,160
Speaker 1: much I love Phillies, TikTok. You know how much I

42
00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,440
Speaker 1: love going to Phillies games. You know how much I

43
00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:13,679
Speaker 1: love Phillies fans. I think they're the kindest and most

44
00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:18,639
Speaker 1: supportive of all fans in Philly. The Mets collapse has

45
00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,480
Speaker 1: been something else. I can't tell you how many calls

46
00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,239
Speaker 1: I've been on in the past week where Mets fans

47
00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,600
Speaker 1: have just been lamenting and in agony. You know who

48
00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:33,640
Speaker 1: didn't collapse this past weekend, Simon Kalla Williams, You and me,

49
00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:39,920
Speaker 1: You and Me and the Sharp or Square podcast record

50
00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,160
Speaker 1: because we went three and two last week in our

51
00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,919
Speaker 1: five favorite picks from our Sunday Morning show. We won

52
00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:52,720
Speaker 1: with the Rams, Raiders and Lions, lost predictably with the Chargers,

53
00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:57,440
Speaker 1: and got bakered by the Bucks. Just a reminder, folks,

54
00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,200
Speaker 1: make sure you check out that Sunday Am show if

55
00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,200
Speaker 1: you want the games that will ultimately be our official

56
00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,960
Speaker 1: five after we've reviewed the latest line moves from Thursday

57
00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,760
Speaker 1: to Sunday, the injuries. As I said, for the year,

58
00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,240
Speaker 1: we're twelve and eight sixty percent through the first month,

59
00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,320
Speaker 1: Simon of the football season. I'll take it. I know

60
00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:16,639
Speaker 1: that you will too.

61
00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, painful, We're not fourteen and six. We left a

62
00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,320
Speaker 2: couple out there, and we get whenever we do these

63
00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,040
Speaker 2: type of record boards flash up. I mean, going with

64
00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,519
Speaker 2: the red for our lost weeks is going to be painful.

65
00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,480
Speaker 2: We're gotting together a couple of weeks midway through the season,

66
00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,160
Speaker 2: so yeah, gotta keep it in that green, Gotta get

67
00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:35,320
Speaker 2: that three and two every week.

68
00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:40,080
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be at twelve and eight. This is

69
00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,560
Speaker 1: our Tuesday show. We're going to review the entire slate.

70
00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,400
Speaker 1: We are entering that part of the season, Simon where

71
00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:50,800
Speaker 1: the really really, really really bad teams are the ones

72
00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:55,080
Speaker 1: that start lighting up as teams that we have to bet.

73
00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,840
Speaker 1: So we're going to have some of those gross conversations today.

74
00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,680
Speaker 1: And there's different short of stratospheres of bad teams to

75
00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,440
Speaker 1: bed and some are just I test bad and some

76
00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:10,800
Speaker 1: are bad spot can they bounce back bad? So that's

77
00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,040
Speaker 1: going to be what's interesting when we chat today. Don't

78
00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,599
Speaker 1: forget get the shows at Surper Square, Sharp or Square

79
00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,120
Speaker 1: on YouTube. Go subscribe and like this video while you're

80
00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:23,440
Speaker 1: at it. You can subscribe to Sharper Square on Apple Pods, Spotify, etc.

81
00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,240
Speaker 1: All Right, we're gonna kick this thing off with Thursday

82
00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:33,600
Speaker 1: Night Football eight point fifteen pm Eastern on Amazon Prime.

83
00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,400
Speaker 1: Somebody wake up. Al Michael's our beloved Rams are on.

84
00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,960
Speaker 1: Here's what's interesting. You know, you and I Sunday night

85
00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,720
Speaker 1: ending the month of September, had a conversation about the

86
00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:45,960
Speaker 1: teams that we think might be the best in the NFL.

87
00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,240
Speaker 1: I said Eagles and you said Rams. And what's interesting

88
00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:53,640
Speaker 1: to me is the Rams underlying metrics actually do have

89
00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,920
Speaker 1: them as the best team in the NFL, better than

90
00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,200
Speaker 1: the Eagles. Kudos to you, Simon from being professional better

91
00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,880
Speaker 1: who got it right in the moment on Sunday night.

92
00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, and not that the numbers mean nothing, right, It's

93
00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,640
Speaker 2: some teams that certain matchups and who they played against

94
00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,760
Speaker 2: and everything like that matters early in the season. So

95
00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:14,640
Speaker 2: for me, it was just looking at who they played

96
00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,680
Speaker 2: and how they played and what I've seen from their defense,

97
00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,840
Speaker 2: and obviously from Stafford, where I was just so worried

98
00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,360
Speaker 2: about his back, Right, anyone that misses a month up

99
00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,520
Speaker 2: summer camp, and it turns out it was the right move, right.

100
00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,440
Speaker 2: They just they maybe he reaggravated it and they just

101
00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,520
Speaker 2: wanted to rest get it right, and he came back

102
00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,279
Speaker 2: at the exact right time. He's looked great through four weeks,

103
00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,640
Speaker 2: and like we said last week, he had a couple

104
00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,840
Speaker 2: you know five four or five drives where they just

105
00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:40,400
Speaker 2: went three and out.

106
00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:41,200
Speaker 3: They had no rhythm.

107
00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,960
Speaker 2: That's kind of what Stafford can be like, right, he

108
00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:45,600
Speaker 2: is a guy that needs to get in rhythm. You've

109
00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,760
Speaker 2: seen the best sometimes for him is their two minute

110
00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,719
Speaker 2: drill when he just dropping the back passing. They're not thinking,

111
00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,120
Speaker 2: He's just in the flow state. So I love this team.

112
00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,120
Speaker 2: That was a miss on us by Sunday night. This

113
00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,240
Speaker 2: was minus three Sunday night, and I did look at it.

114
00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,719
Speaker 1: And I'm yeah, let me it's it's it. Let me

115
00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,080
Speaker 1: just set it up here for a second. The Niners

116
00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,240
Speaker 1: are visiting the Rams. It opened at three, it went

117
00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,800
Speaker 1: to three and a half. Injury news around Brock Purdy

118
00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,760
Speaker 1: and potentially Mac Jones has moved this to five and

119
00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,160
Speaker 1: a half. So you apologize, but continue.

120
00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,159
Speaker 2: And we knew that Purdy might have been banged up

121
00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,200
Speaker 2: from that game, where like he had a bunch of

122
00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:20,960
Speaker 2: stuff that is standing to.

123
00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:22,480
Speaker 3: Look right, he wasn't moving great.

124
00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:27,000
Speaker 2: And yeah, if they make the decision go with mac Jones,

125
00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,000
Speaker 2: how can you not love the Rams here? This would

126
00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,279
Speaker 2: be a horrible spot to put mac Jones in and

127
00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:36,520
Speaker 2: against the Rams team that you know, I feel like

128
00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,760
Speaker 2: they understand that this is a big deal. This is

129
00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:40,880
Speaker 2: the team that they're going to probably most likely face

130
00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,200
Speaker 2: to the top divisionally and you need to get them

131
00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,760
Speaker 2: while you can. Right the four Anders have had some

132
00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,280
Speaker 2: of them. The Ravens are the two by far worst

133
00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,040
Speaker 2: injury look teams. I guess Bengals fans won a fair

134
00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,160
Speaker 2: fight with Joe Burrow, but I'm talking about the whole team.

135
00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,880
Speaker 2: Like the amount of injuries had across the board, it's

136
00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,640
Speaker 2: been insane. So you know, you saw last week Perdy

137
00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,680
Speaker 2: kept them in the game, they had chances to win.

138
00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:04,880
Speaker 2: I don't know if Stafford will do the same here.

139
00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,159
Speaker 2: So at this number, chat, if we're thinking Perty's out

140
00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,800
Speaker 2: five to five and a half, I'll take it for now.

141
00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:11,880
Speaker 3: It's it's just a number.

142
00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,560
Speaker 2: I'm betting that if Perty is out, this will be

143
00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,760
Speaker 2: in every parlay, all the teasers, everything's gonna be tied

144
00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,840
Speaker 2: to this Rams team. So I easily see this getting

145
00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:21,600
Speaker 2: up to six six and a half if it is

146
00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,600
Speaker 2: indeed a mac Jones start here.

147
00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,800
Speaker 3: So uh honestly wanted to be on the forty nine steer.

148
00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,360
Speaker 2: This was going to be a forty nine ers line

149
00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,920
Speaker 2: and spot but now with all the injury stuff, it's

150
00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,520
Speaker 2: just I'm on rams or I'll just stay away completely

151
00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:35,000
Speaker 2: in this game.

152
00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:41,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's interesting is the three and a half up

153
00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:45,320
Speaker 1: to five and a half. That doesn't seem like enough

154
00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:49,840
Speaker 1: of a move for going from Brock Purty to Kyle Shanahan.

155
00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:51,840
Speaker 1: And by the way, I mean from Brock Perdy to

156
00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,400
Speaker 1: Mac Jones. And by the way, Mac Jones is injured too,

157
00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,200
Speaker 1: he's got a bum knee. Right now, do you know

158
00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,960
Speaker 1: who the thurstring quarterback is for the San Francisco forty

159
00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:01,400
Speaker 1: nine ers?

160
00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,680
Speaker 2: I do, but now I can't remember on top of.

161
00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:09,320
Speaker 1: One rant me to tell you. Yeah, Adrian Martinez. Adrian Martinez,

162
00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:13,040
Speaker 1: you might remember, was a quarterback who never quite got

163
00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:14,600
Speaker 1: Nebraska or Nebraska.

164
00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,200
Speaker 3: Yes, I do remember him, and then.

165
00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,440
Speaker 1: He went to Kansas State and then he was undrafted

166
00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,880
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three. And right now with clean to

167
00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,800
Speaker 1: fame is that he was the UFL MVP in twenty

168
00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:27,600
Speaker 1: twenty four. So tell me, with Brock perty injury to

169
00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:32,000
Speaker 1: Mac Jones nursing a bad knee, how is it only

170
00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:32,679
Speaker 1: five and a half.

171
00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:35,319
Speaker 3: I hope it stays back Jones.

172
00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,480
Speaker 2: I don't want that kick coming in check because I

173
00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,559
Speaker 2: do remember from college and he is.

174
00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,760
Speaker 3: Very very very very very very Colin Kaepri, Colin Copper

175
00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:45,640
Speaker 3: kick light.

176
00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,480
Speaker 2: Like he's that type of running style quarterback that like

177
00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,040
Speaker 2: I could see Kyle using him in the same way

178
00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:56,120
Speaker 2: that you know, horrorball back and they used to use Kaepernick. Yeah,

179
00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,360
Speaker 2: that's an interesting play because I did not know. I

180
00:08:58,400 --> 00:08:59,520
Speaker 2: didn't know it was him. I thought it was some

181
00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,120
Speaker 2: other the vetter as their third string. So yeah, I'm

182
00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,280
Speaker 2: I'm on the same boat where I hope it's Mac Jones.

183
00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:05,960
Speaker 2: And obviously I'm not gonna be scared off if it

184
00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,160
Speaker 2: is this kid coming in, but I can squint in

185
00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,640
Speaker 2: my eyes enough to see in his first start, Like

186
00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,240
Speaker 2: we always say, with no tape, you could could that

187
00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:14,880
Speaker 2: could be a sneaky spot play for them.

188
00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:15,600
Speaker 3: But I think you're right.

189
00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,280
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna still go with Mac Jones even

190
00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,719
Speaker 2: if he's banged up. You know, Kyle just likes the

191
00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,160
Speaker 2: veteran quarterback and you got to run his system. So,

192
00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,160
Speaker 2: like you said, he's got a little injury himself. This

193
00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:26,959
Speaker 2: number is going up, Like I'm looking a couple of

194
00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:28,679
Speaker 2: public books right now. Five and a half. I think

195
00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,840
Speaker 2: that's very very very true with Chad's saying here that

196
00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:33,880
Speaker 2: the number probably hasn't moved enough and maybe you are

197
00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:35,839
Speaker 2: getting good value here as long as it's below six.

198
00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,960
Speaker 1: All right, well that's interesting. We might want to think

199
00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,600
Speaker 1: about that today, Simon. You know my favorite place in

200
00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:47,280
Speaker 1: the world is London, England. I know that you have

201
00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:51,120
Speaker 1: an English passport. You know that I'm really really good

202
00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,840
Speaker 1: at accents. So guess what we're doing. We're heading out

203
00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:56,800
Speaker 1: to International waters, my.

204
00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,520
Speaker 4: Friend, International waters Land.

205
00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:05,600
Speaker 1: That love for good is at nine thirty am Eastern

206
00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:12,839
Speaker 1: from jolly old London, England. We've got another brecky. We're

207
00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,080
Speaker 1: getting the full English. I'm going all of it. I'm

208
00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,840
Speaker 1: going all of it. We got Cleveland visiting, not visiting,

209
00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,280
Speaker 1: but Cleveland at Minnesota. They kind of are visiting. Vikings

210
00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,560
Speaker 1: are three and a half point favorites. Because the Vikings

211
00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,920
Speaker 1: got there by the time this game is played almost

212
00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:33,240
Speaker 1: two weeks ago. All the acclamation, all the sort of

213
00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,040
Speaker 1: sleep deprivation, all the jet lag out of their system.

214
00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:41,920
Speaker 1: Cleveland is getting there this week. This one befuddles me

215
00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,920
Speaker 1: a little bit because the line opened at five and

216
00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:50,160
Speaker 1: a half and it's moved to three and a half.

217
00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:57,040
Speaker 1: I can't figure it out. Like Kevin Stefanski has already

218
00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,520
Speaker 1: been noncommittal about if Joe Flacco is going to be

219
00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:03,199
Speaker 1: the quarterback, meaning they may bring in Dylan Gabriel. Joe Flacco,

220
00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,400
Speaker 1: We've been saying this every week. He's truly horrendous. We

221
00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,920
Speaker 1: bet him on Week one because it was a great

222
00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:13,360
Speaker 1: spot at home against the Bengals. We bet on him

223
00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,440
Speaker 1: last week against them last week because it was a

224
00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:21,600
Speaker 1: great spot to fade the Browns on the road. Now

225
00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,160
Speaker 1: we're getting the Browns going overseas against a Minnesota team

226
00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:30,959
Speaker 1: that offensively is doing well enough and defensively, it's either

227
00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,200
Speaker 1: going to be Joe Flacco against Brian Flores and him

228
00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:38,400
Speaker 1: having to move which he can't, or Dylan Gabriel all

229
00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,680
Speaker 1: five to eleven of Dylan Gabriel going against Brian Flora's

230
00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:45,200
Speaker 1: in his first game in an international game. Why is

231
00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,040
Speaker 1: this moving in the Browns direction?

232
00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,640
Speaker 2: I mean, have you seen the Vikings offensive line and

233
00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:56,839
Speaker 2: their dub chart. It's bad, It's bad. It is so bad.

234
00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,680
Speaker 2: And you know this total has been dropping too. I

235
00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,360
Speaker 2: think it opened in the forties and it's say on

236
00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,959
Speaker 2: the thirty six and a half. So professional money have

237
00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,000
Speaker 2: coming heavy on the under They've coming heavy on this

238
00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,880
Speaker 2: Browns team. And look, my first thought was, you know,

239
00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,640
Speaker 2: aren't we gonna want to fade this Browns team? Because

240
00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,440
Speaker 2: my tale, Yeah, I like, I like the Browns at home.

241
00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,199
Speaker 2: That's gonna be something to stand by that they're just

242
00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,480
Speaker 2: gonna be a different team at home. And two scariest

243
00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,760
Speaker 2: Woods words in the wheel Chad, the Browns away. The

244
00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,760
Speaker 2: Browns are in England. So it's like, this isn't a

245
00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,000
Speaker 2: home game. They're on the road. I know it's outdoors

246
00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,640
Speaker 2: on grass, but it scares me a little bit. I

247
00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,640
Speaker 2: wanted to be on the Browns honestly, because you're getting

248
00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:40,280
Speaker 2: this incredible defense against a guy that, yes, he can

249
00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,000
Speaker 2: string it together at some points with those incredible weapons

250
00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:43,680
Speaker 2: Carson Wentz.

251
00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,280
Speaker 3: But you've gotten the full on Carson WIT's experience.

252
00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,040
Speaker 2: He's gonna be running around behind that bad offensive line

253
00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,360
Speaker 2: with one hand on the ball, trying to do spin moves,

254
00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,439
Speaker 2: you know, twenty yards back, like he just can't help himself.

255
00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,240
Speaker 2: So you are playing with fire in this game. I'll

256
00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,040
Speaker 2: take the dog, but like it's that's another thing like Pittsburgh.

257
00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:01,439
Speaker 3: Last week.

258
00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,440
Speaker 2: I took Pittsburgh with zero confidence, just simply playing the

259
00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,920
Speaker 2: number that they had made. Carson Wentz a favorite on

260
00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,880
Speaker 2: the road somewhere, and it feels like the same thing here.

261
00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,320
Speaker 2: I'm I'm trying not to overthink it that Chad is right.

262
00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,880
Speaker 2: The Browns with Flacco, it's looked putrid, but Flacco is

263
00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,360
Speaker 2: the type of quarterback that he won't be scared by.

264
00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,880
Speaker 2: You know, the defense, the Vikings run of these safeties

265
00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,200
Speaker 2: running down to the line then sprinting back twenty yards

266
00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,719
Speaker 2: like he doesn't care about all that movement, all the

267
00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,559
Speaker 2: stuff like that. Where if it is Gabriel, You're right, Jah,

268
00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,320
Speaker 2: I probably wouldn't be as heavily invested.

269
00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,480
Speaker 3: You don't want a rookie going against a Flora's defense.

270
00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,400
Speaker 2: We always know that's never gonna work out for them,

271
00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,120
Speaker 2: with all the different looks you'll get. So yeah, this number,

272
00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:41,760
Speaker 2: like Chad said, there's a couple of four and a

273
00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,280
Speaker 2: halfs still out there in Cleveland. Ourd Rock was one

274
00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:45,720
Speaker 2: of the first to move to three and a half.

275
00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:49,680
Speaker 2: So yeah, some very very small professional money has moved

276
00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,120
Speaker 2: this number, and I'm looking to splits right now. The

277
00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,840
Speaker 2: public has joined them. The public is on Cleveland with

278
00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:59,200
Speaker 2: the professionals. Here we are on Tuesday, So interesting, interesting,

279
00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,320
Speaker 2: everyone just totally on that Vikings team. You might there

280
00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,800
Speaker 2: might be value on this Vikings team, like we're saying, well,

281
00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:05,240
Speaker 2: you have to wait for it to get to the three.

282
00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,240
Speaker 1: In my opinion, I'm not looking to play the Browns here.

283
00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,040
Speaker 1: I'm looking for this number to get as low as

284
00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,440
Speaker 1: possible so I can be comfortable playing the Vikings.

285
00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:15,160
Speaker 3: So I would have four and a half. You can

286
00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:16,320
Speaker 3: get a four and a half on the Browns.

287
00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,440
Speaker 1: I would play that because I want to enjoy. You know,

288
00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:24,560
Speaker 1: I'll probably have my cottage cheese with a little bit

289
00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,200
Speaker 1: of cinnamon and some fresh fruit. Maybe throw some cheese

290
00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,520
Speaker 1: seeds in there. Really really ramp it up to get

291
00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:36,040
Speaker 1: ready for a long day football. Well, I'm watching the football,

292
00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:37,640
Speaker 1: but I don't want to be on the Browns here.

293
00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,920
Speaker 1: Like I think there are certain spots for the Browns,

294
00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:45,560
Speaker 1: this doesn't feel like one of them to me. Now

295
00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:51,720
Speaker 1: we're going to get interesting Minnesota. I mean Miami at Carolina.

296
00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:56,920
Speaker 1: Carolina one and a half point favorite. As we came

297
00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:58,920
Speaker 1: on the air, I had not seen this line move,

298
00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:03,120
Speaker 1: So if it moved in any direction, I'm not aware

299
00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:10,720
Speaker 1: of it yet. We have assiduously avoided betting the Panthers.

300
00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,960
Speaker 1: We have not been suckered by their promise or the

301
00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:19,200
Speaker 1: flashes of Bryce Young in garbage time. You know, whether

302
00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,480
Speaker 1: it was against the Pats last week, in which they

303
00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,120
Speaker 1: dominated the box score mainly because they were down twenty

304
00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,920
Speaker 1: eight to six by halftime. We actually liked the Pats

305
00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,480
Speaker 1: this past weekend, and spot the wise guys liked Carolina.

306
00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,600
Speaker 1: The defense also made Drake may look kind of perfect

307
00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:44,000
Speaker 1: fourteen to seventeen, averaging ten yards per attempt. The market

308
00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,280
Speaker 1: did correct right, so after they got blown out, it

309
00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:51,200
Speaker 1: moved from Carolina minus one to Carolina plus one and

310
00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,960
Speaker 1: a half before the Monday in a football game. But

311
00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,080
Speaker 1: then even after the Dolphins win, it had moved back

312
00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:03,200
Speaker 1: and stayed at Carolina minus one and a half. Everything

313
00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,760
Speaker 1: in this game says I want to beat Carolina. Historically,

314
00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:10,680
Speaker 1: this is where we should back Carolina, especially off a

315
00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,880
Speaker 1: prime time win for the Dolphins and off of a

316
00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:17,080
Speaker 1: blowout loss for Carolina. Here's the one thing that's holding

317
00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:21,120
Speaker 1: me back. These flips from plus one and a half

318
00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,520
Speaker 1: to minus one and a half. The dogs just always

319
00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,120
Speaker 1: end up being on the wrong side. We've seen it

320
00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:30,840
Speaker 1: a couple times this year, Ravens and Raiders. What am

321
00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,480
Speaker 1: I doing here? What's sharp? What's square? Give me the

322
00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,680
Speaker 1: lean and tell me if my lean on Carolina is sharp,

323
00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:37,680
Speaker 1: because I want it to be.

324
00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,160
Speaker 2: It's definitely the sharp side Carolina.

325
00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:41,440
Speaker 3: But that's the movement.

326
00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:43,240
Speaker 2: This one is interesting because it was one and it

327
00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,640
Speaker 2: was minus one, minus one and a half last week,

328
00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,680
Speaker 2: and it flipped, like you said, just for a little

329
00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,720
Speaker 2: bit to Miami, and it didn't matter what the Miami

330
00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:55,840
Speaker 2: outcome was gooda be if Miami got rolled, I still

331
00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:57,360
Speaker 2: think this would have flipped back to the Panthers. I

332
00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,680
Speaker 2: still think the professionals would have came in on this

333
00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:03,040
Speaker 2: pan their side. And last week, I know you didn't

334
00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,280
Speaker 2: see it. That was such a Miami spot. That were

335
00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,560
Speaker 2: oher and three playing against a bad team at home,

336
00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,560
Speaker 2: and I know historical data showed people that own three teams.

337
00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,040
Speaker 2: You just blindly ticked the dog. I think it's a

338
00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,639
Speaker 2: sixty percent bet, but that was that's to his spot

339
00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,800
Speaker 2: two against a bad team at home, especially the Jets,

340
00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,440
Speaker 2: who I think he's never lost to at home.

341
00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:23,159
Speaker 3: He wins those games.

342
00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:27,080
Speaker 2: And this is the type of game that old Tua

343
00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,080
Speaker 2: from just two years Ago would win. He's going to

344
00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,399
Speaker 2: play a bad Panthers defense. He should light this defense up.

345
00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,959
Speaker 2: But we've seen they are just a bad team. They're inconsistent,

346
00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:41,640
Speaker 2: especially on the defensive side. So last week the Panthers

347
00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,879
Speaker 2: had opportunities against the Patriots, it was just a horrible

348
00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:44,600
Speaker 2: Bryce Young game.

349
00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,200
Speaker 3: He was terrible. I went back and watched the film.

350
00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,800
Speaker 2: Bad throws, even on Throstay's connecting with guys, He's throwing

351
00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:52,480
Speaker 2: there behind them, slowing them up so they have to

352
00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,000
Speaker 2: drop back to catch it and fall down, and just

353
00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,520
Speaker 2: not being what you need Bryce Young to be, which

354
00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,919
Speaker 2: is he's supposed to be. Insanely, it's the one thing

355
00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:02,600
Speaker 2: he was supposed to be great at in college. You

356
00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,040
Speaker 2: saw this year in the games they've won and they've

357
00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,760
Speaker 2: played well, he's been really on target, Like his throws

358
00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,679
Speaker 2: have been incredible. So it is tough where you are

359
00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,119
Speaker 2: spot on. This is such a Panther spot. It's a

360
00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,879
Speaker 2: Panthers number against a bad Miami team that to me

361
00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:19,760
Speaker 2: is just gonna be overrated now by the public because

362
00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,080
Speaker 2: what you just said, what they did in that primetime

363
00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:26,960
Speaker 2: game where their defense. I think Tuba Hubbard could have

364
00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,520
Speaker 2: a huge game in this matchup. Yeah, I'm gonna dive

365
00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,399
Speaker 2: more into this Panthers team because they have injuries as

366
00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,560
Speaker 2: well to their offensive line and see what I can

367
00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,040
Speaker 2: find out there. But as you sit here right now,

368
00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,800
Speaker 2: I think your initial read of this being a Panther

369
00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,200
Speaker 2: spot is true. This is almost my Simon says Pick.

370
00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,800
Speaker 2: But it's like I've pinished the fans enough. I want

371
00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,440
Speaker 2: to find something a little little grosser than this one,

372
00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,600
Speaker 2: and uh yeah, the Panthers. Right now, it feels like

373
00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,880
Speaker 2: you can be patient if you want. There is one

374
00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:53,639
Speaker 2: book out there that still has them as a dog.

375
00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,560
Speaker 2: I think they're all gonna flip to Panthers being a favorite.

376
00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,520
Speaker 2: So I just don't see it going back to Miami

377
00:18:58,560 --> 00:18:59,960
Speaker 2: being a favorite in the spot. I think it's gonna

378
00:18:59,960 --> 00:19:02,879
Speaker 2: be Panthers professional money while the public is going to

379
00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,840
Speaker 2: come in on this Miami side, especially the plus one

380
00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,800
Speaker 2: in and a half. They're gonna love that number on Miami.

381
00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:12,800
Speaker 1: So you think the professional money is just going to

382
00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:17,119
Speaker 1: outweigh anything that the public does on the Dolphins, because like,

383
00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,720
Speaker 1: maybe this could maybe it could get down to one,

384
00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,680
Speaker 1: Maybe it could get down to Pick, you know what

385
00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:22,080
Speaker 1: I mean.

386
00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,240
Speaker 2: I mean, I can look now there were there are

387
00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,480
Speaker 2: ones out there. Yeah, there's a bunch of ones out there,

388
00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,639
Speaker 2: and there's I mean there's a book right now that

389
00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,000
Speaker 2: has it at half half a point, so it's like

390
00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,920
Speaker 2: you could shop around. I mean, I don't want to

391
00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,440
Speaker 2: say it doesn't matter because we just literally happened last

392
00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:39,720
Speaker 2: week with the Bears and the Raiders.

393
00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,520
Speaker 1: We've said it happened a couple of times this year.

394
00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:46,760
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's it's an interesting proposition where if you

395
00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:48,960
Speaker 2: could obviously get that plus one and a half, that's

396
00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:50,960
Speaker 2: the spot you want to be in with this Panthers team.

397
00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,399
Speaker 2: But I still think that the minus one is a

398
00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,520
Speaker 2: good number on this Panthers side. I like that number

399
00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:57,520
Speaker 2: for them in this matchup.

400
00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,359
Speaker 1: I'm looking as well, I see I see one spot

401
00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:04,320
Speaker 1: that is at Panthers minus a half. So I don't know,

402
00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,719
Speaker 1: it's just it's scary when we see that line flipping

403
00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:10,159
Speaker 1: because we know sort of historically that that move is

404
00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,280
Speaker 1: against you if you take the favorite, that if you

405
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,480
Speaker 1: take the team that closes as the favorite. So I

406
00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,520
Speaker 1: was with you though, I was thinking about making that

407
00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,840
Speaker 1: Chad Loves. I'm not sure I'm ready to dive into

408
00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,320
Speaker 1: the Panthers yet, So aggressively. We'll probably end up wanting

409
00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:30,600
Speaker 1: to play them in some capacity. Las Vegas Raiders visiting

410
00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,720
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts. The Colts are six and a half

411
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:38,480
Speaker 1: point favorites. You mentioned grabbing this on Sunday night when

412
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,439
Speaker 1: it opened, assuming it would go up. It did, It

413
00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:44,520
Speaker 1: went to seven, then it came back down. I think

414
00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,240
Speaker 1: you and I are both much more impressed with Indy's

415
00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,760
Speaker 1: loss against the Rams sort of solidified them as a

416
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,280
Speaker 1: good team that wasn't in early season Fluke. A lot

417
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:58,720
Speaker 1: of Colts betters and fans would say they should have

418
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,639
Speaker 1: won that game pretty easily if not for Adam I

419
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,679
Speaker 1: Mitchell and his you know, fumble across the goal line

420
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 1: and the holding call on a Jonathan Taylor touchdown. I mean,

421
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:13,720
Speaker 1: that's fourteen points right there. It's it's hard to exaggerate

422
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 1: how important that was to the game. And look, Gino

423
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,720
Speaker 1: Smith has just been terrible. Like we love Gino, we

424
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 1: thought he'd be a difference maker of veteran presence for

425
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 1: this team with really good talent. He had been awful,

426
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 1: just awful.

427
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I knew this was going to be a

428
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 2: super public play. I said Sunday this was going to

429
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 2: be one more public spots for this Colts team. And

430
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 2: it's it's it's looking that way. It's you know, handful

431
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,879
Speaker 2: of professional betters reach out to me, they'd like the Raiders,

432
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,399
Speaker 2: they liked them, the plus seven, and it's what we

433
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,679
Speaker 2: viewed the same thing. It's you're getting Gino once again indoors,

434
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 2: and we've seen him be able to push the ball downfield,

435
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,199
Speaker 2: and you know, these last couple of weeks, maybe it

436
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:57,879
Speaker 2: is just a fluke, right, it's him get comfortable in

437
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 2: a new offense. But I see a guy that just

438
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,879
Speaker 2: simply could not see the field right now, He's throwing

439
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,920
Speaker 2: it to guys that are just not open at all,

440
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 2: with defensive defensive players literally right there next to the guy.

441
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,440
Speaker 2: Like it's not as if it's a super tight window.

442
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,640
Speaker 2: I'm talking about a defender on him that Gino has

443
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 2: before the balls even snapped, made the read in his mind.

444
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 2: I'm throwing to this guy no matter what. You do,

445
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 2: not want to be seeing that from a ten year

446
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 2: vet in this league. It's it's really bad with you

447
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 2: because you can just see he's in his own head.

448
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 2: He's not playing free. This is the worst he's looked

449
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 2: since you know the first year in this for the Seahawks,

450
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 2: where you know he was working through things and you

451
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 2: saw him getting better throughout the couple of years there

452
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 2: at Seattle. Right now he looks totally regressed. He looks terrible.

453
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 3: Raiders.

454
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,439
Speaker 2: I'm telling you they're gonna be a professional side. I

455
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 2: mean their early line movement showed that I really thought

456
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 2: this was gon good to seven and a half, like

457
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 2: we were saying this was steaming up. We came on Sunday,

458
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 2: it opened five and a half, went to six, went

459
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 2: right to six and a half, got up to seven.

460
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 2: Now it's kind of settled in here at six and

461
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 2: a half. No opinion on it right now. I'm like,

462
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 2: really really trying hard not to just give out this

463
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 2: cold side because I love it so much. I'm already

464
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 2: on the cold side. But I want to see what

465
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,959
Speaker 2: more what the professional do this lines this week goes

466
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 2: along because I need to hear more about why they

467
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 2: like this Raiders team so much. In this spot against

468
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 2: a Colts team that I think we both agree they

469
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 2: look legit like a playoff team. This is the type

470
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,160
Speaker 2: of team that good playoff teams who are coming off

471
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 2: a loss on the road come home, and they beat

472
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,400
Speaker 2: up on bad teams at home in this spot. So

473
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 2: I think the number the numbers warranted. It's it's good

474
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 2: respect for the books giving this number to the Colts.

475
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 2: The question is has the number moved too much tot

476
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 2: And That's what I'm worried about here. So I'll be patient.

477
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 2: We'll talk about this game on Thursday, and we'll sure

478
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 2: we'll hear a bunch more calls about it on sharp calls.

479
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it. You know, we're trying to thread the

480
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,880
Speaker 1: needle a little bit here. The last couple of years,

481
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 1: the favorites, when they're a significantly better team, are winning

482
00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 1: at margin, and so we're trying not to just do

483
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: what historically, quote unquote the professional betting community would do

484
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 1: and take the worst team in a number that's getting

485
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 1: to a touchdown automatically, just because that's what you're supposed

486
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 1: to do, which is why I'm with you. I sort

487
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 1: of look at this and think, all right, this feels

488
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: sneaky to me, and maybe it's like, you know, we're

489
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 1: overthinking it, but I kind of want to be in

490
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 1: the Colts and I want to figure out how to

491
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 1: get there.

492
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we'll see too. As this is a longer

493
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 2: because right now, that's why I'm upset that we don't

494
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 2: have a better record. This is honestly be one of

495
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 2: the best starts in my professional career to a season.

496
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 2: It feels like all the dogs we love, they're all

497
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 2: coming through the easy chalk favorites against these really bad

498
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,479
Speaker 2: teams that we just don't trust are coming through, and

499
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 2: I'm interested when it goes along. Here is he's a

500
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 2: progressives because the dogs, like Chad said, they fall off

501
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 2: a cliff. We could not stop going to and th

502
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 2: last year because no matter what that third dog or

503
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 2: that fourth dog we took in our contest would just

504
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 2: get rolled. We're not used to that. Usually they would

505
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 2: cover or at least keep these games closed. So that's

506
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 2: what I'm excited to see. Because we're through four weeks,

507
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 2: it's honestly been a dream. Like if you, especially guys

508
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 2: I knew, who just simply fade the public. They have

509
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 2: been cashing at an alarming rate. I mean, how like

510
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 2: that that Cowboys Packers games is the prime example. I

511
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 2: think last Sunday I said, I don't care what the

512
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 2: number was for the Cowboys, You're gonna have to fade

513
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 2: that green Bay team. This snummer is gonna get it

514
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 2: too inflated. I think it touched seven at some point

515
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 2: last week.

516
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and seven and a half.

517
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 2: Right, and it's like that was that's what should be happen.

518
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 2: We're used to that, right, those examples like chs saining

519
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 2: last year the Green Bay wins that game by twenty.

520
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 2: It was very bizarre last year what was happening with

521
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 2: a favorite. So right now I think it's looking good

522
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 2: for us. We can stay confident and been in our

523
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 2: ugly dogs. But if we get if we have two

524
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 2: three weeks in a row, we get burned, like say

525
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 2: week nine, ten and eleven. I do think we'll have

526
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 2: a major discussion where we need to make those adjustments

527
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 2: at last year we didn't make, and this year we're

528
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 2: going to make.

529
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 3: So we've done well this year.

530
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 2: We've been putting favorites since Yeah, they've been coming through

531
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 2: for us. I think we got to stay the course

532
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 2: that we at least always get one favorite in our picks.

533
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 2: And this week I don't know about you. I have

534
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 2: a couple favorites I like, but this one here, it's

535
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 2: another favorite. I like the Colts minus six.

536
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: And a half Houston at Baltimore. Baltimore is a three

537
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: and a half point favorite right now, dude. This was

538
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: at nine on Monday morning. Nine by Monday afternoon it

539
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 1: was at three and a half because of all the

540
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: news about Lamar Jackson in addition to all the other

541
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,439
Speaker 1: Ravens injuries. But this is really about Lamar Jackson and

542
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: his uncertain status because of his hamstring. Here's what I

543
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: find interesting. I alluded it to it earlier. The Ravens

544
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: might be without Lamar and the line moves what is

545
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: it about five and a half points with the potential

546
00:26:55,400 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 1: downgrade to Cooper Rush. The Niners might be without Brock Purty.

547
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: The line only moves two points with the downgrade to

548
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: Mac Jones. So my questions for you before we get

549
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: into the game, is Lamar really only worth five and

550
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: a half points more than Cooper Rush? And is Brock

551
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 1: really only worth two more points than Mac Jones?

552
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 2: Yeah? I would say, don't don't read too much into

553
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 2: these like dumb articles. That's like bookmakers say this quarterback's

554
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 2: worth this many points of this team, and it's all

555
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 2: it's all about that game, that situation, and it's I

556
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 2: think people over overwrapped way too much to it, because

557
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 2: you've seen it with the Bengals. Is Joe Brown not

558
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 2: worth twenty points to that team?

559
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 1: Clearly?

560
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 3: So that's what I mean. It's very stupid.

561
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 2: Someone's like, well, this bookmaker here says Lamar Jackson's the

562
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 2: highest rated, He's worth eight points of this team. Oh

563
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,439
Speaker 2: fucking kay. Like it's all about the game, the matchup,

564
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 2: in the situation.

565
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 3: So you're right.

566
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 2: It opened nine and a.

567
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 3: Half, it quickly went to seven and a half.

568
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 2: Hard Rock here in Jersey is at three, and I

569
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 2: keep saying, hard Rock to me is one of the

570
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 2: sharper books that like on whatever it was two in

571
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 2: the morning or one in the morning on Saturday night,

572
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 2: I tweeted they were the first book I saw Go

573
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 2: to the Chiefs plus two and people like, what does

574
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 2: that mean? I'm like, that means really smart professional money

575
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 2: sitting that hard rock number. Same thing's happening here. The

576
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 2: professionals are taking a stand. If this number is dipping

577
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 2: to three, that means they think they know something here.

578
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 2: So I've jumped in on the three and a half.

579
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 2: I'm making text and Simon says, call mess Simon, what

580
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 2: do you want? I want to play a game?

581
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 1: What kind of game?

582
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 2: Simon says, grab the three and a half right now,

583
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 2: because I'm gonna trust that movement. Even if Lamar does

584
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 2: play something is wrong here. You saw him get caught

585
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 2: by guys. Some linebackers on that Chiefs team never ever, ever,

586
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 2: ever catch a little more. If you even go back

587
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 2: a week, it looked like he lost half a step.

588
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 3: So I think this is injury.

589
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 2: Has been battling through you throwing all the injuries now

590
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 2: the Ravens have had to their team. This is an

591
00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 2: amazing spot for Houston that that Woody marks at having

592
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 2: a running back like team with that speed out of

593
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 2: the backfield that can catch and run. I think it's

594
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 2: gonna take Houston up another level now where they were

595
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 2: trying to force a Nick Chubb but was not working.

596
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 2: I think Woody Marx is a huge upgrade the running

597
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 2: back position. Now you're adding that CJ feels like he's

598
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 2: a rhythm going up against our front four of this

599
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 2: Ravens team that can't get pressure and can't stop the run.

600
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take this number, and if it is Cooper Rush,

601
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 2: I think Chad's right. What will this number end up at? Right?

602
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 2: Is this gonna be a pick. Is this gonna flip

603
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 2: to Houston being a favorite. Let's get ahead of it.

604
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna grab that three and a half. If Lamar

605
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 2: comes back. At worst, I see this getting up to

606
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 2: four and a half. I don't see him moving the

607
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 2: number that much because I don't think he's right. I

608
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 2: think he is banged up. And this is insane. This

609
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 2: is crazy how far we fall in with this Ravens team.

610
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 2: But it's just the injuries. They've been bitten by it,

611
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 2: Lamar's been bitten by it. It's just all going bad

612
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 2: for this Ravens team. And this is a this is

613
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 2: a this is a Houston number here plus three and

614
00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 2: a half, I believe. Yeah.

615
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: The only thing that's scared me. It kind of annoyed me.

616
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: I would have bet it yesterday. I just bet it

617
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: literally while you while you were talking. Your urgency inspired

618
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: me to make the bet while you were talking, because.

619
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 2: The fear is if we're on the show and Lamar's out,

620
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 2: this this does flip and it's like, great, Now we

621
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 2: missed three opportunities get the best of the number in

622
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 2: this matchup, and I don't want to miss it here.

623
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 3: I don't want the fans in the city.

624
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: That's exactly what it is. Like, I'm annoyed that I

625
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: didn't get the nine. I'm annoyed I didn't get the seven.

626
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, are you kidding me that? Because I was

627
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: freaking stretching between stretching and you know, the two hours

628
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: later when I finally started working on my stuff for

629
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: the day, I missed the number and I missed six

630
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: points of value. Here, are you kidding me?

631
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 2: I know.

632
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: That's what's annoying me.

633
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 2: I would saying, no one wants to hear about your

634
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 2: your bet you didn't make. My worst one was that

635
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 2: that early morning game last week with the Vikings. Wentz

636
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 2: gets the ball back. I knew he was going to

637
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 2: get them downfield and somehow score a touchdown and I

638
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 2: go to hit it live. It's plus nine and a

639
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 2: half that Vikings team, and he just a moment he

640
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 2: throws that bomb and it's just taken down immediately to

641
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 2: three and halfd its like, just as you still want

642
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 2: to miss the number here, so I people are hearing this,

643
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 2: grab it now. I think this. I think the three

644
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 2: and a half will be gone by the end of

645
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 2: Wednesday if we do hear little more is out or

646
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 2: still not practice this week.

647
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: Yep, Denver at Philadelphia. So look, in the light of

648
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: day after the Eagles game against the Bucks, this line

649
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: started moving down from five and a half to five

650
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: to four and a half. It got to four over

651
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: the course of late Sunday night and Monday morning, move

652
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: back to four and a half. Clearly some big Eagles

653
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: bets from professionals on the Eagles at four. Like AJ

654
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: Brown is very much mooting on social media after the win.

655
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: I know you saw this after the win on Sunday

656
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: against a team that has historically given the Eagles a

657
00:31:55,800 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: lot of trouble. He tweeted, if you're not welcomed, not

658
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: listen to quietly withdraw, don't make a scene, shrug your

659
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: shoulders and be on your way. And then, of course Sirianni, Nick, Sirianni,

660
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: you know mentioned it yesterday, said everything's good, there's no problem.

661
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: You know, will they try to target Aj Moore That

662
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: seems to be the pattern after he sort of makes

663
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: crypto comments. I'm a little surprised the line moved back

664
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: in the Eagles direction though.

665
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Eagles there the media just loves them,

666
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 2: right because that they love you're the laziest sports media.

667
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 2: You can talk about the Eagles every day if you

668
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 2: want for an hour, because their fans will engage it.

669
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 2: I mean there's a reason, Like I'm an Eagles fan.

670
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 2: There's no doubt we have some of the dumbest fans.

671
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 2: I love it though, Like they are so rid or

672
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 2: diets the best. That's why I don't need to fight

673
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 2: with people on the internet. I have plenty of idiots

674
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 2: for Philadelphia on the internet meming people putting stupid stats

675
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 2: that just make zero here in sense. But how great

676
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 2: this team is and how great everything is, and you

677
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 2: know AJ tweeting that out. Yeah, he probably is saying

678
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 2: something that we're all taking one way that means something

679
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 2: totally different. That's AJ's personality. He's that type of guy,

680
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 2: and I'd love AJ like as an Eagles fan. He's

681
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 2: never He's not going anywhere. We talked about it. If

682
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 2: they traded him right now, I think it's like seventy

683
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 2: million in dead cap.

684
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 3: He's not going anywhere for this.

685
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: He's not going anywhere two three years.

686
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 3: No matter what.

687
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 2: And if you're AJ and you're four to zero and

688
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 2: you're coming off with Super Bowl U victory, sure, does

689
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 2: he want more touches? I'm sure, But I'm telling you

690
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 2: Aj is not like people make him out today. He's

691
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: not t o. He's not that much of a self

692
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 2: centered narcissist that he's really that mad about not getting touches.

693
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 2: Getting back to this game, Yeah, this is a Broncos

694
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 2: number on a spot. I mean this. I tried fanou

695
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,239
Speaker 2: Eagles teams. They're just something's not right with them yet, right,

696
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 2: They're not comfortable in this new offense. They like I said,

697
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 2: they should not cover that in a million different ways

698
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 2: last week, like that stat. Everyone's seen the fact that they

699
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 2: didn't complete a pass in the second half.

700
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 3: You know it was there for the for Baker to

701
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 3: take it.

702
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 2: We're doing the same thing here, Chad, and we're betting

703
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 2: on bow Knicks in a spot that we need bon

704
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 2: Knicks to take it because cover this number, because Hurts

705
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 2: is gonna get his, whether it's the first half, second half,

706
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 2: they'll eventually get his. Saquan, who hasn't done much this year,

707
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 2: this seems like a nice spot for him to get right.

708
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 2: Against a Denver team that, yes they're a good defense,

709
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 2: but you saw like when they played the Colts against

710
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,439
Speaker 2: a good running back like Jonathan Taylor. He was able

711
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 2: to run the ball. Yeah, and you saw in the

712
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 2: Chargers game with Herbert. You can't push the ball downfield

713
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 2: against this Denver team. So, like we said, I knew

714
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 2: the Denver is gonna regress in the year. I know

715
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 2: they added guys in the offseason. Anytime a team finishes

716
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,760
Speaker 2: as the number one defensive football they always regress because

717
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,280
Speaker 2: they have a harder schedule and teams play them differently.

718
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 2: It's really the down to bow knicks Chad, and that's

719
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 2: what's so tough with this number. I believe in it.

720
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 2: I think another line and that almost made Simon says

721
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 2: because it was five and a half, Like Chad said,

722
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 2: some books move this to three and a half, they're

723
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 2: still a three and a half.

724
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 3: A bunch of books shot right back up to.

725
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 2: Four and a half.

726
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 3: So really interesting that.

727
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 2: What books are taking professional moneys and moving at the

728
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: four and a half, and what professional money is holding

729
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 2: this at three and a half at other books. So

730
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 2: if you'll like the Denver side, which I do, I

731
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: grab the four and a half. But if you like

732
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 2: the Eagle side, you can find the three and a

733
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 2: half still in you know.

734
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 3: To me, I can't wait to.

735
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 2: Hear to the sharp calls because I'm interested to see,

736
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 2: interested to see if there's any professionals on this Eagle

737
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 2: side where this just feels like such a sharp side

738
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 2: taking this Denver side against an Eagles team that, like

739
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 2: we said, is not in rhythm offensively, still have questions

740
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 2: about their defense in some aspects. You saw the big

741
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 2: playability they've given up this year. It's that number two corner.

742
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 2: They just do not have a guy. Yeah, and you know,

743
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 2: as an egoscan I cannot be bitter about you see

744
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 2: what Isaiah Rodgers is doing for that Vikings team. He's

745
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 2: like the best corner of football. How we don't want

746
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 2: to pay the guy like six million dollars? And like

747
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 2: again how he tons of smoke? He's the greatest up

748
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 2: his ass. But what a bad miss by him? And yeah,

749
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 2: this is gonna be an interesting one. Sharp calls, I

750
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 2: know we're gonna cause about this one. I am telling

751
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 2: the pros calling me up. If you're taking the Eagles,

752
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 2: I want to hear your pitch here because my only

753
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 2: reason to back them is you're fading bon Nicks. You're

754
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 2: fading bon Knicks who struggled against playoff teams, especially all

755
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 2: on the road. This technically is that exact spot to

756
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 2: fate Bonnicks. But I can't get over this number in

757
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,760
Speaker 2: this Vegles team just being overvalued, overrated by the general

758
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 2: public right now, and just a team that doesn't look

759
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 2: in rhythm. So yeah, four and a half. Looking here

760
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 2: at hard Rock, they're still a plus four. So shop

761
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 2: around trying to get the four and a half if

762
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 2: you can on this Denver team.

763
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: Here's what's worrying me about the Broncos. The air pass

764
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 1: rush is entirely reliant on the Blitz at this point,

765
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: and that's just not going to bother Jalen Hurts. So

766
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 1: if there's an opportunity to beat back what is currently

767
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: the strength of the Broncos defense in addition to fading

768
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: bo Nicks off of a massive wine, this is sort

769
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: of a one plus one could equal four and a

770
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: half situation. To me, there's red flags all over this thing.

771
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe we'll be able to just avoid it altogether.

772
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 2: But yeah, my initial reader was like, man, that's going

773
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 2: to be another time. I'm like, Denver, all.

774
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: Right, So I do want to talk about the Giants

775
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: and the Saints because this is a crazy line, right.

776
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: It opened Giants plus two, Giants minus two, and then

777
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: we talked about it on Sunday night. Then it moved

778
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: to Saints about minus one and a half, so we

779
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:05,240
Speaker 1: had a pretty decent swing on the Saints. It's another

780
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: one where I'm a little annoyed. I wasn't aggressive with

781
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: it on Sunday night when we talked about it. But

782
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: are we in an age where Jackson Dart, after he

783
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: was not amazing as a thrower, has lost myleak, neighbors,

784
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: He's going on the road against a team that other

785
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: than one game has been competitive in the Saints at home. Like,

786
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: the move makes sense to me, but we lost the window.

787
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 3: What is your hate for Jackson Darty? You did five throw.

788
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 2: On the ball?

789
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 3: I don't know, like he do great.

790
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: Because he wasn't that accurate. He missed some throws like

791
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: he just I thought he was like a guy who

792
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: was a really good runner, do you know what I mean?

793
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an interesting line movement. Honestly, at first, I

794
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 2: thought this was gonna be Russell Wilson news. I thought

795
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 2: someone's gonna come out the Dart is banged up and

796
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson is got because I'm like you, I couldn't

797
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 2: believe this had moved so many because they did get

798
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 2: up to two and a half, Like I got Saints

799
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 2: two and a half. There's a couple of books now

800
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 2: they're already showing minus two on the Saint side. So

801
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 2: that is either Russell Wilson is playing or really really

802
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 2: really respected big money as just hammering the Saint side

803
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 2: and they just keep moving this numbers. So my initial

804
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 2: read was this is the same spot, this is the

805
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 2: Saint side was going to be very easy to fade

806
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 2: dart off that win at home. Now going on the

807
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 2: road against the Saints team, that to me, this is

808
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 2: where I want to be with them. I want to

809
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 2: take them at home. I think they're a different team

810
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 2: at home. They're scrappier at home. I know the trends.

811
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 2: You're going back multiple years here, they have not been

812
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 2: good at home, actually staying surprisingly this team though just

813
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 2: this year I feel like they've looked better at home

814
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 2: early in the year here. So yeah, I'm pissed obviously,

815
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 2: like this was going to be an easy play, no doubt,

816
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 2: or is goingbe in our contest, especially at two and

817
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 2: a half. For the Saints. It's moved a lot. Don't

818
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 2: need to force it. Can be patient here. If you

819
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 2: do like the Saint side and you're worried about it,

820
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 2: keep going up to two. You can grab it now.

821
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 2: Like that's that. That's what I'm saying the trend of

822
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 2: the direction right now. Most of the books are at

823
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 2: minus one, twelve, minus one, fifteen on the Saints, and

824
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 2: a couple have already popped it two. So to me,

825
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 2: that's that's where the professional money is moving this number.

826
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 2: If you want to go Saints now, you can on.

827
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 3: The flip side.

828
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 2: If we can be patient, maybe this ends up as

829
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 2: being a giant side and a giant summer. If this

830
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 2: gets the plus two and a half, that gets very

831
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 2: interesting because it is a guy who's never won a

832
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 2: game in Spencer Rattler and now he's a field a

833
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 2: two and a half point favorite. I don't know at

834
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 2: what's some point we'd have to.

835
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 3: Come back, so I know I agree. Yeah, So I'm.

836
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 2: Hoping this day is the Saint side because I'm already

837
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 2: been in the Saints. I don't want to be trying

838
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 2: to be the smartest guy in the room and have

839
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 2: both sides here.

840
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:47,240
Speaker 3: I just want to stick on the Saints.

841
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 2: So I'm hoping some professionally does come in on the

842
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 2: Giant side and keep this right at where it is

843
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 2: right now, which is at one one and a half

844
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 2: another line. I might not force this in because, like

845
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 2: Chad said, we've we've been burned by this number flipping

846
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 2: on these sides here. But I can't help but really

847
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 2: like the Saints here that there's gonna be super desperate

848
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 2: as an O four team going against the Giants team.

849
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 2: That this is not that good coming off a huge win.

850
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 3: Now on the road.

851
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 2: So yeah, interesting, interesting spot for the Saints team.

852
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 1: Crazy spot. I'm it's like, I feel like it's gonna

853
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: haunt me all week. Then it moves so much and

854
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 1: I missed it on Sunday night, even though I flagged

855
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: it on Sunday night. I was just slow to the

856
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: draw and didn't pull the trigger, like something was holding

857
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: me back. And yeah, it was Spencer Ratler, who's just

858
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: holding me back. So now the number has moved too

859
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,280
Speaker 1: much and feels like a lost cause to me unless

860
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna bet the Giants. All right, dude, Dallas Cowboys

861
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: at the New York Jets, they are the Dallas Cowboys,

862
00:41:55,000 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: a free wheeling All American star kiss team. Jet's currently

863
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 1: two and a half. Listen, you talked about it on

864
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: Sunday night, wanting to grab the Jets when it was

865
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: one and a half because we were worried the Cowboys

866
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: might get blown out and the number might move, you know,

867
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: in a direction against us. It's now moved to two

868
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 1: and a half because of all the fireworks by the

869
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: Cowboys against the Packers on offense. The way the juice

870
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,479
Speaker 1: is moving, this could actually get to three, especially after

871
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 1: last night with the Jets, you know, basically just beating

872
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 1: themselves from the opening drive and you know, dominating the

873
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: Dolphins on the ground, Brillian Allen getting to the two

874
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 1: inch mark and then fumbling as he's about to cross

875
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: the goal line, and then the Jets just jetting like

876
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: so many self destructive penalties, bad personal files, bad hold

877
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: bad illegal motions, bad legal formations like you name it.

878
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 1: Every time they were driving, they would kill themselves. So look,

879
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: Dallas and dak are legit offensively. No one is denying that.

880
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: I do think their defense is still terrible. The Jets

881
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: were brutal, Like I don't even like the Jets and

882
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: it was hard to watch. Simon. The Jets could be

883
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: at the lowest right now, the Cowboys could be at

884
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: their highest right now. You know what I'm saying.

885
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely the Cowboys are definitely the square side,

886
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 2: and this is going to be just like them against

887
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 2: the Bears. This will be a huge public side. And

888
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 2: it's not shocking. Like I said, I said that before

889
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 2: that Bears game, Dak beats up on bad teams, and

890
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 2: the Bears proved to us in that game they're not

891
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 2: a bad team and they beat Dak in that matchup.

892
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,240
Speaker 2: Can the Jets do the same chat? I don't think so.

893
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 2: So this is a game I'll be patient with. There's

894
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 2: already a bunch of threes out there. So like the professionals,

895
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 2: the public all like they are lighting up on this

896
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 2: Cowboys team, let them, let them bet it up. If

897
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 2: we get three and a half, amazing, that will be

898
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,439
Speaker 2: one of the easier door covers of our life. Because

899
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,720
Speaker 2: you saw a last name with Justin fields like he'll

900
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: do nothing for a half and then break out that

901
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 2: one run and then Colly's flips their offense where now

902
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 2: they have momentum. Now the defense is on their heels

903
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 2: and a little tired. And that's what you have here

904
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 2: where it's Dallas is a bad team. I don't know

905
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 2: how they can stop the run, which is what the

906
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 2: Jets love to do. They love that readoption, which you

907
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 2: know they were averaging and felt like nine yards per

908
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 2: carry against Yeah Miami. Like Chad said that, that fumble

909
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 2: after a ten minute drive just totally reset that whole

910
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 2: game where instead of tying it all of a sudden,

911
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 2: they or being up seven to three, they are all

912
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 2: someden down ten nothing. And I just don't see the

913
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 2: same here. I think that Jets team, once again, they're

914
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 2: an ozero and four team. That's why i love early

915
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 2: year of trends because I'm excited to dive into these

916
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 2: oh and four team trends that they're not only their

917
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 2: own four at home as an underdog guarantee they will

918
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 2: be getting less than I don't know, thirty percent of

919
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 2: the bets, thirty percent of the money. No one's betting this,

920
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 2: like I just their professionals early money here, it's come

921
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 2: on the Cowboys sides. So I'll be patient. Like I said,

922
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 2: I knew Sunday night, I was probably end up on

923
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 2: the side of this Jets team because it's just like

924
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 2: I just thought that was a Miami spot that they

925
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 2: were probably gonna roll there and the public would be

926
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 2: totally out on them after a prime time game. I

927
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 2: did not know the Cowboys like chat said, we're gonna

928
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 2: put up forty on green Bay and totally shocked the world.

929
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 2: So this is making me love the Jets even more.

930
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 2: Just be patient, grab the three if you want. Now

931
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 2: I'm praying we get the home dog of three and

932
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 2: a half. And you know, speaking future contest lines, if

933
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 2: this is three and a half, auto play on that

934
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 2: Jets number, because it's that's way too much love for

935
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 2: a Cowboys team that they are bad. They don't be

936
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 2: mistaken by what those these games. In their offense, Dak

937
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 2: is incredible. Dak needs things to break. Hiss. When you

938
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 2: saw that they were dead until yes, it was a

939
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 2: thirteen to two after they had that blocked thing, and

940
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 2: then all these little things happened with Green Bay brought

941
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 2: them back in the game. So Chad's right, that's the

942
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 2: fear with the Jets is they're gonna give them opportunities.

943
00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 3: This is a really bad team.

944
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 2: They'll let Dallas in and we want the best number

945
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 2: here with this Jets team, We're gonna betting it.

946
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 3: Grab the three, wait for the three and a half

947
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 3: if you need to.

948
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I'm seeing three start to pop literally as

949
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: we're talking about this. So one of the reasons I

950
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: wasn't making this Chad Loves is because I wasn't seeing

951
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:18,240
Speaker 1: the threes yet.

952
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 2: That's fair.

953
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: Now you're telling me that you think it'll get to

954
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: three and a half. It makes me want to hold off.

955
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: I've got one other game.

956
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 2: You never know that there could be real professional resistance here.

957
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 2: But I'm just looking at all different websites right now,

958
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 2: all the different books I can get for the different splits,

959
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 2: and it's just tons of early money. Every book right

960
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 2: now is on this Cowboys side. So I think the

961
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 2: books are in the right to keep moving it because

962
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 2: it's like there's no resistance yet, but why not let

963
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 2: the public come and have you on this Cowboys team?

964
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 2: And yeah, two and a half, like I could be

965
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 2: missing here, this could be a good Cowboys number. I'm

966
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 2: overthinking it, but I just I don't know how you

967
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 2: can trust this Cowboys team on the road against such

968
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 2: a desperate Jets team That just feels like a bad

969
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 2: spot to back.

970
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,280
Speaker 1: Well, look, this is like the ultimate high low right, yeah,

971
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,240
Speaker 1: it is like you you want to sell the Cowboys

972
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: right now, You want to buy the Jets right now.

973
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: That is as classic professional strategies.

974
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 3: Right, Cowboys you want against the spread Jets one and three.

975
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: So the Jets in a total spiral, like this is

976
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: the moment for them to take a stand at home

977
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: against America's team. Like, forget about the metrics, just historically

978
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: the situation we've been in the spot, We've been in

979
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: the spot this year. You take the Jets. I'm trying.

980
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: I'm not talking myself into making this chatsh joy Chad

981
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: loves because I want to see if I can get

982
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: a better number. But I I one hundred percent love

983
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: the Jets are love them. Love them, not Chad loves,

984
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: but I do love them. Tennessee at Arizona. Oh boy,

985
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: So what I mentioned off the top of the show,

986
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: this is the time of year where we've got these really,

987
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: really really bad teams and the models are going to

988
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: light up. Take the Titans. Take the Titans. Take the Titans,

989
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: and we got to make decisions about whether or not

990
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 1: we're going to trust the models or trust our eyes

991
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 1: Arizona's eight and a half point favorite right now. It

992
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: moved from eight and a half to nine and a

993
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 1: half between Sunday night and today and then came back

994
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,720
Speaker 1: down to eight and a half. This stat is worth repeating.

995
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,800
Speaker 1: Titans are three and eighteen against the spread since the

996
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: start of twenty twenty four, the Brian Callahan era. We

997
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: have not spent any time betting on the Titans, but

998
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: we have not spent enough time fading betting against the Titans.

999
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: What does that say about us? Like we know enough

1000
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 1: to avoid betting the bad team, but not enough to

1001
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: bet against them. Are we victims of our inside info

1002
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: at Like I don't know what to do here. I

1003
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: know that the side to bet is the Titans. I

1004
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: don't want to do that.

1005
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, Titans are a team that when people say

1006
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 2: models are stupid and people overrate their models too much,

1007
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 2: this is the exact thing they're talking about, because that's

1008
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 2: the issue with the Titans. Every week, any model is

1009
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 2: going to be giving them the you know, extra to

1010
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 2: three points sometimes because they're quote unquote undervalued. And that's

1011
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 2: what sucks about him where it's like they're not just

1012
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 2: because their computers say they are the general public. That

1013
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 2: guy in the corner of the bar that just keeps

1014
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 2: yelling how much the Titans suck, and he's fading them

1015
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 2: every week. He's been right. He is right about his

1016
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 2: hate of this Titans team because they do suck. I mean,

1017
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 2: I told you, I can't get over how good cam

1018
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 2: Ward is. And even even some of their own families

1019
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 2: start to turn on a little bit, which I just

1020
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 2: don't get. It's like, dude, cam Without him, you guys

1021
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 2: would literally have zero pulse. Like he feels like he's

1022
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 2: making wild plays that just other guys can't make. And

1023
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 2: this is going to be a professional side, this Titans team.

1024
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 2: I already know it Arizona, even if we're just going

1025
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,240
Speaker 2: the laziest metric, which is you look at their schedule

1026
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 2: this year. They started the season with the with the Saints.

1027
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 2: They won twenty to thirteen at the Saints. Then they

1028
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 2: came in and played the Panthers. They beat the Panthers

1029
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 2: twenty seven to twenty two. Then they went to the

1030
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 2: forty Ninears, they lost fifteen to sixteen. Then they just

1031
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 2: lost at home against the Seahawks twenty to twenty three.

1032
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 3: It's pretty simple.

1033
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 2: They have not beat any team by more than one possession,

1034
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 2: or they've not lost by one more presessions areas on

1035
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 2: a team. That's what Kyler. I feel like that sums

1036
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,879
Speaker 2: up Kyler's career. He's gonna be eight, nine to nine

1037
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 2: to eight, and every game will come down to less

1038
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 2: than a touchdown him winning or losing. It's just who

1039
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 2: he is. So the professionals taking that number and the

1040
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 2: Kyler trends is a favorite. He's terrible, right, Like I said,

1041
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:39,439
Speaker 2: you only want to bet Kyler was a dog.

1042
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 3: So I hate it.

1043
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,280
Speaker 2: This almost got the ten, which is what I wanted.

1044
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 2: I was gonna take Tennessee at ten. I'm looking now

1045
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 2: at a couple of books, very sharp books. They're already

1046
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 2: at seven and a half. So these professionals are suckers.

1047
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 2: They're suckers for paining. They're coming on the Titans once again.

1048
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 2: Bet it down, let me get let me get Cardinals seven.

1049
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 2: I'd rather be there or seven and a half than

1050
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 2: anywhere on the Titans. So I hate this game, happy

1051
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 2: to pass on it. Titans are the sharp side, no doubt.

1052
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 2: The square side will be this Cardinals team, and That's

1053
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 2: where I'm gonna end up. And like again. We'll talk

1054
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 2: to RIrA next week. Like this is feels like the

1055
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 2: exact type of spot. Me and Chad love back to

1056
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 2: Cardinals when we lose somehow to this Titans team. But

1057
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 2: I can't avoid it. Everything is so wrong. You go

1058
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 2: back and watch Titan's tape. Other than Jeffrey Simmons, that

1059
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 2: defense is disaster. Arizona's gonna be able to run the

1060
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 2: ball here at will if they want with Benson, and

1061
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,240
Speaker 2: our only fear here is just Kyler Murray. Kyler Murray

1062
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 2: could screw us. I think that Seahawks game, that was

1063
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 2: the Kyler Murray game where he just doesn't play well enough.

1064
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:46,919
Speaker 2: This is the type of game where he should bounce

1065
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 2: back play well. So try not to be scared off

1066
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 2: of this one. Not trying not to be on this

1067
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 2: Tennessee team. Whatever I can do. Line to myself about

1068
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 2: backing this Cardinals team, I just I can't get there.

1069
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,439
Speaker 2: It's just, once again, I get it, it's a Titan spot,

1070
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 2: it's a Titans number, But I just that team looks

1071
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 2: like it's totally checked out on the set.

1072
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: Coach right now, all right, well, look you just mentioned

1073
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 1: Seattle in that game against the Cardinals. Seattle is a

1074
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: three and a half point favorite against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

1075
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: I don't really get what's going on with this number.

1076
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: It opened at two and a half. We really like

1077
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 1: the Bucks at two and a half on Sunday night.

1078
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: Now it's three and a half and I'm trying to

1079
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: figure out what the move is. Is it injuries injuris

1080
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,479
Speaker 1: Todd Bowles was cryptic about Bucky Irving and meeting an MRI.

1081
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,760
Speaker 1: If that's the case, then it's sort of it helps

1082
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: me walk away from this Bucks team because Seattle in

1083
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 1: every respect. We talked about the Rams being one of

1084
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: those teams that is grading out really really high. Seattle

1085
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: at every metric, talking about passing the ball, talking about

1086
00:52:53,520 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: Sam Darneld, talking about handling pressure, talking about pressuring the quarterback,

1087
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:05,439
Speaker 1: pressing the quarterback without having a blitz, Like both these

1088
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: teams are are getting a tremendous amount of pressure on

1089
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: a quarterback, the Bucks getting the second most pressure, the

1090
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 1: Seahawks getting the seventh. But Tampa's blitz percentage is seventh highest,

1091
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: Seattle's second to last, which in this case is impressive

1092
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: because they're just not blitzing. They're getting pressure with their

1093
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 1: front four against the run. The Seattle team is as

1094
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: good as any of the Bucks have seen, so I

1095
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:38,399
Speaker 1: kind of get the two and a half. The move

1096
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: from two and a half to three to three and

1097
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: a half, especially with the injuries.

1098
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's just injuries. But once again, I

1099
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 2: think this Seattle team just is highly overrated right now.

1100
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 2: And this is a Buck's great, great number if you

1101
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 2: just want to bet the under here.

1102
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 3: I also love the under.

1103
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 2: I think this is two really good defenses. The Bucks

1104
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 2: defense is being slept on in my opinion, just like

1105
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 2: the Seahawks were kind of being slept on coming into

1106
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 2: the year, and people have kind of gain traction now

1107
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 2: on this team that they see what I see that

1108
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 2: this is a really good defense with Sam Darnold if

1109
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 2: he doesn't turn the ball over and he can do

1110
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 2: what he does in those fourth quarters, those insane drives,

1111
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 2: which what made him so special. After the Vikings, Seattle

1112
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 2: would be a really tough out this year. There'll be

1113
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 2: a good team. They could easily replace the forty nine ers,

1114
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 2: while the injrews they've had is the biggest threat to

1115
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 2: this Rams team this division.

1116
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 3: So statement game here for Seattle.

1117
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 2: They win this game, will earn a ton of respect

1118
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 2: for me, will definitely give him a big bump in

1119
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 2: my model, and I just I love it. Like the

1120
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 2: Bucky Irving stuff sucks. Bucky is massive, massive weapon to

1121
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 2: this Bucks team. And the fact that he's going to

1122
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 2: MRI on his I think I believe it's his knee.

1123
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not gonna play.

1124
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,760
Speaker 2: In my opinion, if you're getting MRI on Monday or Tuesday,

1125
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 2: the odds of you as a running back playing on

1126
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 2: a Sunday on an away game, it just doesn't happen.

1127
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,879
Speaker 2: So I'm moving with the Pauls here, but I'm looking

1128
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 2: at hard rock here in Jersey Live. It is three

1129
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 2: and a half. I feel like a sucker once again

1130
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,280
Speaker 2: because this is a sucker number thet because they obviously

1131
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 2: they need the money on the Bucks. That's the only

1132
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 2: reason they moved at that, and they know guys like

1133
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 2: me will come in and take it so interesting early movement.

1134
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 2: Hear them to touch that three and a half, and

1135
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 2: I'll take it here just in case Bucky gets cleared.

1136
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 2: Baker gets cleared obviously, Godwin and Mecha Buka, if they're

1137
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 2: all healthy, I think this is gonna be a tough

1138
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 2: test for the Seahawks team, and they're being a little

1139
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,720
Speaker 2: overvalued right now coming off such a big win on Thursday.

1140
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm gonna be on that buck side. But

1141
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 2: like Chad said, with all the injuries, I don't know

1142
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 2: if I'm gonna force it into our contest, let alone

1143
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 2: making one of my favorite bets this week.

1144
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,800
Speaker 1: Today's show is brought to you by our new presenting sponsor,

1145
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: hard Rock Bet. The leaves are falling, but the stakes

1146
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 1: are rising. Postseason baseball is here and every swing could

1147
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 1: change the season. Step up to the plate and take

1148
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: your swing. On hard Rock Bet today, new customers can

1149
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: place a five dollars bet and if it hits, you

1150
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,320
Speaker 1: get not only your winnings, but also one hundred fifty

1151
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: dollars in extra bonus bets. Plus. Every day this week

1152
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,320
Speaker 1: on hard Rock Bet, you can get a profit boost

1153
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 1: for a postseason baseball parlay. There's new promos every day.

1154
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 1: Boost your same game parlay or SGP max, so your

1155
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: bet pays extra winnings. Here's a baseball parlay I like tonight.

1156
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 1: I'm going nuts on my hometown Chicago Cobbies. I'm going

1157
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 1: Cubs alltlined minus two and a half the over and

1158
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: Matt Shaw Dat a home run. No matter what you

1159
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 1: like to bet, there's new promos every day, so if

1160
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: you're listening to this later, there's no bad day to

1161
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 1: download the hard Rock Bet app and make your first

1162
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: deposit payable in bonus bets, not a cash offer offered

1163
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: by the Seminole Tribe of Florida. In Florida, offered by

1164
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:47,399
Speaker 1: Seminal hard Rock Digital LLC. In all other states. Must

1165
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 1: be twenty one and over and physically present in Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Indiana,

1166
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 1: New Jersey, Ohio, Indiana or Virginia to play. Terms and

1167
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 1: conditions apply. Concerned about gambling in Florida, call one eight

1168
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 1: eight eight admit it. In Indiana, if you or someone

1169
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,399
Speaker 1: you know as a gambling problem and wants help, call

1170
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 1: one eight hundred and nine with it. Gambling problem called

1171
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 1: one eight hundred gambler in Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee,

1172
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: and Virginia, Washington At the Los Angeles Chargers, Chargers are

1173
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: two and a half right now. I have no opinion

1174
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 1: on this game, no opinion like.

1175
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 3: I love Washington. I'm shocked you don't love a side here.

1176
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 2: Why if Daniels comes back, this is a good match

1177
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 2: for him as a running quarterback. I think you can

1178
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 2: give major prompts his Chargers team and their defense, the

1179
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 2: way they play, and it's really does come out of

1180
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 2: him in Terry though. That's why, like another game I

1181
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 2: could be patient on. I mean, there's very few threes

1182
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 2: out there hard Rock was that three they did move

1183
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 2: to two and a half. I'll be patient. To me,

1184
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 2: this will be all Chargers money. People are gonna be

1185
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 2: hamming Charger, especially if they think it's gonna be Herbert

1186
00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 2: versus Mariota. I like this matchup for watching. I like

1187
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 2: the matchup for Washington's defense. I mean as much Hay

1188
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 2: as I want to get a Bobby Wagner and coverage.

1189
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 2: He is one of the best linebackers reading when to

1190
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 2: blitz and when when to stay back. And you know,

1191
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 2: I knew they gave up a ton of points and

1192
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 2: you know they couldn't not stop the run last week

1193
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 2: against Atlanta. That to me was just a really bad

1194
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 2: spot for Washington and they looked just defensive like they're

1195
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 2: totally lost. This would be a good right spot against

1196
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 2: a Chargers team that those are huge injuries, right, losing

1197
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 2: all I mean their top three offensive lines, right, And

1198
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 2: I don't love giving Herbert a top a really hard time,

1199
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 2: but he did have a ton of pressure in his

1200
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 2: face and he did not adjust well to it. So

1201
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 2: looking at this matchup, I feel like this is will

1202
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 2: be a Commander's side, especially if I can get the

1203
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 2: plus three right now Daniels does get cleared, this could

1204
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 2: move to a pick like I just think these are

1205
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 2: two with the injuries to the Chargers right now, I

1206
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 2: just view these these two very evenly matched teams, and

1207
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 2: I'd make the with Daniels at home, I probably would

1208
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 2: make Washington a minus three, minus three and a half

1209
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 2: favorite over this Chargers team. So it's strictly based off

1210
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 2: the injuries to Chargers team. We've seen a lot of

1211
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 2: teams here just get really the whole team. He gets

1212
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 2: taken down a notch because of the injuries. You lose

1213
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 2: your number one tackle and then your number two tackle.

1214
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 2: How can you not act like that isn't a huge

1215
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 2: deal to this team. That literally they used first round

1216
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 2: picks on those guys. Their whole team was built around.

1217
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 2: I know, yea, and we all love Herbert. They were

1218
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 2: built around that offense line. That was Harball's identity, right

1219
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 2: they were gonna bully you, and that was They're gonna

1220
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 2: dominate you in the trenches.

1221
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 3: They're not that same team right now.

1222
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 2: They're not the same team we saw even against the

1223
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 2: Denver team, Like, they just are totally different now with

1224
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 2: all the injuries they've had. So, yeah, this is based

1225
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 2: on just the number. If this is plus three right now,

1226
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 2: I think you should grab that. Waht shouldn't. Based on

1227
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 2: my idea that I do think Daniels is gonna play that.

1228
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 2: I do think Washington's playing a little koy playing an

1229
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 2: extra safe with him last week holding him out. I

1230
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 2: think he could have played last week. I agree with

1231
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 2: the decision though hold him out for this game. They

1232
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 2: could have stole that. When I get to Atlanta. I

1233
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 2: have a tough time seeing them steal this one with Mariota.

1234
00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 2: There is a possibility Mariot has done well, They've moved

1235
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 2: the offensively. But obviously Chad's on the same page as

1236
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 2: we want Daniels, especially for ben plus three with this

1237
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 2: Washington team.

1238
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I was sort of holding out. I

1239
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: didn't really have an opinion because but just as you're

1240
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 1: saying this to two and a half, mostly I'm seeing

1241
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 1: one or two threes. So if you're listening to this

1242
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: and you can get Washington three, it feels like a

1243
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 1: good idea right now based on what Simon is saying.

1244
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 1: I'm definitely going to take Washington at three. Little taste,

1245
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 1: just in the hope that Daniels is coming back. Yeah,

1246
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 1: Detroit at Cincinnati. Cincinnati right now is a ten point

1247
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: underdog at home. It went from eight and a half

1248
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 1: to nine and a half to ten after lasts night's

1249
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 1: Bengals bungle. We know the Bengals are really bad. We

1250
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 1: know Jake Browning has not been effective. I do think

1251
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 1: there are some differences though, between how bad the bang

1252
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 1: looked and say, how bad the Titans have been as comps. Right,

1253
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: the Lions to me are getting at least two points

1254
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: of road inflation here, and they are also going to

1255
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 1: be missing DJ Reid could be out for the year.

1256
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: Terry and Arnold left the game with the shoulder injury

1257
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 1: yet to be known if he's going to be playing.

1258
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 1: He's also not very good, so they're going to be

1259
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 1: down one of their starting quarterback cornerbacks who is very good.

1260
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 1: The other one. We don't know if he's going to play,

1261
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 1: but imagine how bad the backup is if the guy

1262
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 1: they keep starting is the one who keeps getting all

1263
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 1: the penalties. I think a Meek Robertson's been great. I'm

1264
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 1: not discounting how good he's been for the Lions, but

1265
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 1: they're going to be in trouble in that secondary at

1266
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 1: their cornerback positions. Can't Jake Browning just fling it three

1267
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 1: or four times downfield, Jamar Chase to keep this game

1268
01:01:58,400 --> 01:01:58,919
Speaker 1: within ten.

1269
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 2: It's fair to have a question mark at the end

1270
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 2: of that statement. Just ken He Chad ken He because

1271
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 2: I don't know if he can. But what are we

1272
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 2: supposed to do here?

1273
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 1: We're supposed to take the Bengals.

1274
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 3: I know That's what I mean.

1275
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 2: It's like you're supposed to take the Bengals three four

1276
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:15,959
Speaker 2: years ago would have been.

1277
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 3: A no brainer, smash play. But we're in a new age.

1278
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 2: The public wins, the bookmakers don't adjust enough sometimes of

1279
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 2: these lines, and this to me feels like it should

1280
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 2: be thirteen. Like the Bengals are a bad team. Me

1281
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 2: and you have never trusted their head coach. We've always

1282
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 2: had questions about him, and.

1283
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 3: I'd have to go back and look.

1284
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 2: But I felt like at one point t Higgins and

1285
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 2: Chase had four targets or five targets, and it's like

1286
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 2: that's on him. You can say it's on Brownie, but

1287
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 2: it's like he's the one designing these placers.

1288
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 3: So Chad's nailed it. It's like there's there's ways for the.

1289
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 2: Bengals to attack this line's defense to succeed, but I

1290
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 2: don't not playing my faith and there's one book still

1291
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 2: out there at nine and a half. On this Lions team,

1292
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 2: I've taken any time I could get the number under ten,

1293
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 2: I've taken it on this line side. Even I knew

1294
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 2: is gonna be super public, super chalky. I just don't

1295
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 2: know if the books have adjusted enough to this Bangals team.

1296
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 2: So I'm looking forward to hearing if there's any professionals

1297
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 2: taking this Bengal side and what their actual reason is for,

1298
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 2: because this just feels like the type of game where

1299
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 2: guys like me, professional guys who bet big money. Why

1300
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 2: would I not put the lines into a bunch of

1301
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 2: parlays and their money lines into a bunch of parlays

1302
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 2: like I just did with Denver It's like, I just

1303
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,959
Speaker 2: have no faith in this Bengals team, and I coming

1304
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 2: into the year, I had major questions about it. As

1305
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 2: soon as they lost Burrow. It's like, Okay, this is

1306
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 2: going to be a train wreck of a season. Like

1307
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 2: Chad said, normally back in the day, the Bengals bounce

1308
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 2: back here, they bounce back with the backup. Do we

1309
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 2: fade a lines team that have had multiple weeks now

1310
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 2: of huge wins and they should regress, But I just

1311
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 2: feel like the lines are rolling. Bengals just feel like

1312
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 2: everything's so bad, I meaning just a coaching disparity here,

1313
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 2: just feels like it's worth another point or two that

1314
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 2: it should have been bumped up from eight and a

1315
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 2: half to nine and a half ten so people can

1316
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 2: tell I'm just so out on this Bengals team, and

1317
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 2: I know it's probably the side I should be on.

1318
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 2: But I'll take the line side here and I'll take

1319
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 2: the minus nine and a half if you can find it.

1320
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 2: But like as Chad said, it's going up like there's

1321
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 2: a bunch of tens ten and a half's out there.

1322
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,919
Speaker 2: So I mean, hard rock right now is at ten.

1323
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 2: So if that's your only choice, I guess you can

1324
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 2: be patient or take your money elsewhere. But because I

1325
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 2: like the nine and a half, I just for the

1326
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 2: insurance purposes. But man, I in my model I have,

1327
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 2: honestly is a Bengals line. I have it still at

1328
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 2: eight and a half. But I think my model is wrong.

1329
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 2: I think this Bengals team is just a disaster.

1330
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 1: I am shocked to hear you so out on a

1331
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 1: team that is a double digit dog at home coming

1332
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 1: off a blowout with all world receivers, and a team

1333
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 1: that's coming into Cincinnati that is missing their two starting

1334
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 1: cornerbacks potentially at least one of them, that is coming

1335
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 1: off of two blowouts. Like, the inflation is just so

1336
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 1: high in the Lions right now, and it's so low

1337
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 1: on the Bengals. It's just astonishing to me to hear

1338
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 1: you almost sound defeated that you're taking the Lions in

1339
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 1: this spot.

1340
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 2: You know my favorite trend which hit with Dallas as

1341
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 2: a seven point dog against Green Bay.

1342
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 3: It's up to twenty one and one now.

1343
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 2: The a seven point dog through the first nine weeks

1344
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 2: of the season against the spread is twenty one to

1345
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 2: one the last three years.

1346
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 1: So is that at home?

1347
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 2: Yes, at home as a home dog of seven points

1348
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 2: or more through the first nine weeks of the season,

1349
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 2: so it hit again last week, no doubt or with

1350
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 2: Dallas they fit this mold. But I just I can't

1351
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 2: get over what I've watched where it like Chad's is right,

1352
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 2: the matchups are there, But if you go back and

1353
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 2: watch the all twenty two of that game, Brownie is

1354
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 2: missing wide open guys.

1355
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 1: That terrible.

1356
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 2: Yes, like he is just truly terrible, horrible. So I

1357
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 2: don't know what to do with it. It's a great spot,

1358
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:03,360
Speaker 2: a great trend, like chat saying it's painful though, but

1359
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 2: I'm on the other side.

1360
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 1: There was a stat I read in a story on

1361
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 1: ESPN dot com this morning about the Bengals. The Bengals

1362
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 1: have been bad forever, Like historically, they're a terrible franchise.

1363
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 1: The past couple of weeks have been their worst combined

1364
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 1: weeks in the history of their franchise. That's how bad

1365
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 1: they've been the past two weeks. So think about how

1366
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 1: bad the Bengals have been. People used to wear paper

1367
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 1: bags over their faces for the Bengals. The past two

1368
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 1: weeks have been the worst they've ever had. That's how

1369
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: bad it's been. Yet I'm kind of interested. I'm just

1370
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 1: going to say it, all right, we got to do

1371
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 1: a prime time spotlight. We're doing something new. We know

1372
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 1: you guys want to bet Sunday Night Football, Monday Night Football.

1373
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 1: They're Island games. They're catnip for gamblers. They call out

1374
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 1: to us. Starting this week, we're putting a little spotlight

1375
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 1: on those games, even if they don't fit in as

1376
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 1: official plays, because you want to bet them. We want

1377
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 1: to help you. Sunday Night Football.

1378
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 5: Brothers Hot Sister, Patriots Hoss, Holiday sun They are reviving

1379
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 5: the glory and the righteousness.

1380
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 1: Of two thousand and one. Your new England at Buffalo.

1381
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 1: Buffalo currently an eight point favorite. It moved from seven

1382
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 1: and a half to eight. This is one of those

1383
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 1: where I want to I want to back Buffalo. Like

1384
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 1: both of these defenses are terrible. Like we can say

1385
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 1: anything we want about Rabel and this defense, you know,

1386
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 1: maybe getting better or you know, look what they did

1387
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 1: against the Panthers or whatever, but their coverage defense is

1388
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 1: truly awful. Buffalo is twenty ninth. The Pants. Buffalo is

1389
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 1: twenty nine. It was twentieth. Pats are twenty ninth. According

1390
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 1: to PFF. The Bills run defense. That's pro football focus.

1391
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 1: The Bill's run defense is twenty ninth pants Pats are

1392
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 1: twenty second every week. I asked this question, are we

1393
01:07:55,840 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 1: ready to commit to Drake May in a game that

1394
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 1: could potentially be a shootout at what is now a

1395
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 1: big number?

1396
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 2: Yeah? And how can you not be super excited for

1397
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 2: you a Patriots fan about Drake May? Right, he's been

1398
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 2: really you know, played really well this season. Is beat

1399
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 2: up on bad teams, which is you want you're a

1400
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:20,599
Speaker 2: good quarterback to do. And I look at this Patriots team,

1401
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 2: is there's still six seven players away from being actually good,

1402
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 2: like they're.

1403
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 1: Well, that's nothing, six or seven players, that's nothing.

1404
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:31,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just feels to they have so many holes still.

1405
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 2: And like you said, defensively, you know, it just feels

1406
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:37,760
Speaker 2: like they have so much stuff to work through. So

1407
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:41,719
Speaker 2: I wanted to be on the Bills. I could not believe.

1408
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 2: I have to check. Yeah, it's still fifty. It was

1409
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 2: fifteen and a half this total of this game. That

1410
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:49,680
Speaker 2: was crazy. I know that Bill's defense is bad right now,

1411
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 2: and Drake May is moving the ball downfield. I could

1412
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 2: not believe when I saw that total. That's that is

1413
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 2: a classic Sunday night under bet for your boys, Simon here.

1414
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 2: So I'll be interesting if that number comes down the

1415
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 2: professionals hit this under on the fifty and a half,

1416
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 2: because that just feels totally inflated because it's a Sunday

1417
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 2: night game. And the thing what you said is so

1418
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:13,720
Speaker 2: true that what's scaring us off is the Bill's defense. Man,

1419
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 2: It's it's really bad and they got major problems. But

1420
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:19,560
Speaker 2: I think this is by far the toughest defense this

1421
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 2: season that Drake May has faced. You expect them to

1422
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 2: give him some problems to be able to attack it.

1423
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:29,599
Speaker 2: And you know you've seen Josh Allen these the exact

1424
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:32,600
Speaker 2: games show up usually, especially after last week that he

1425
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 2: just did not look right, and they still almost covered

1426
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 2: that game against the Saints even on a bad day

1427
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 2: for Josh Allen. So yeah, this is going to be

1428
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 2: very public, very square this Patriots side. I think there'll

1429
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 2: be the one more big public dogs of the week

1430
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 2: just because this Bill's defense has looked so bad and

1431
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 2: in people's minds, this is going to be an open

1432
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 2: back door opportunity for Drake May. So I'll be patient. Wait,

1433
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 2: I mean, there's seven seven a half right now, hard Rock.

1434
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 2: Can we get the seven? Can this be bet down more?

1435
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 2: Because to me, it just feels like the money will

1436
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 2: just keep coming on this Patriots team just because of

1437
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 2: the hook with that seven and a half or the

1438
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:09,720
Speaker 2: eight and a half, like the public is gonna like

1439
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 2: that number. So another game. I do want to be

1440
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 2: on the Bills, but I'll it's Tuesday. I'll be patient,

1441
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 2: hopefully get a better number.

1442
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 1: You and I could not be in more agreement on

1443
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:23,600
Speaker 1: that game. Okay, I'm super glad about that. I'd like

1444
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 1: to know if we're an agreement on this last game

1445
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 1: Monday Night football, Kansas City visiting the Jacksonville Jaguars, who

1446
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:37,799
Speaker 1: are currently three and a half point underdogs. Simon Simon

1447
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 1: Chad loves the Jacksonville Jaguars.

1448
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:52,640
Speaker 2: God damn it.

1449
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:56,639
Speaker 1: Look if it was two and a half, I'd probably

1450
01:10:56,680 --> 01:11:00,160
Speaker 1: say we take my homes. But it's getting harder and

1451
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:07,679
Speaker 1: harder to ignore the Jags, and not because of Trevor Lawrence,

1452
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 1: who we both agree is probably the worst thing about

1453
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 1: this team right now. They're run blocking in their past

1454
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 1: blocking elite amongst the top ranked by Pro Football Focus.

1455
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 1: The defense is not only creating multiple turnovers a game,

1456
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 1: which is you know, part luck, So that could regress

1457
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 1: fourth overall to me, could a revived run game, and

1458
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 1: clearly their running game has been better with Travis atn

1459
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 1: the past couple of weeks. Could they control a little

1460
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 1: bit of the Trevor Lawrence volatility against a run defense

1461
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 1: that is ranked thirtieth? And then I think, like, emotionally,

1462
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:54,160
Speaker 1: are they emboldened by what happened in San Francisco? That

1463
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 1: was a game that two weeks earlier against the Bengals,

1464
01:11:57,240 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 1: they throw away, They came out, they made the right plays,

1465
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:03,680
Speaker 1: they forced the fumble for brock Party to clinch it.

1466
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:08,640
Speaker 1: Liam Cohne goes after Robert Sala after the game, like

1467
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 1: show some fight gives this team some personality. Plus it's

1468
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 1: the right spot for the Jags. You're getting the hook

1469
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:21,639
Speaker 1: at home. Why did you say oh no or god

1470
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 1: damn it when I said I love this because you

1471
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:24,600
Speaker 1: want to.

1472
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 3: We're in the trust tree, right?

1473
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1474
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 2: Did you bet the Chiefs last week against the Ravens?

1475
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 2: Did you put actual money on the Chiefs last week? No?

1476
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 3: I didn't think you did.

1477
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:36,639
Speaker 2: So you just don't trust this Chiefs team. And even

1478
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 2: though I told you it was my biggest bet loved it,

1479
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 2: told you that it was the spot of spots for

1480
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 2: the Chiefs. You still doubted it all week and even

1481
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 2: on Sunday you didn't put a single dollar on it.

1482
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 1: So not a dollar.

1483
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 2: I think you're just two out on the Chiefs team

1484
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 2: and you're just totally blind. Spot here where Trevor. It's

1485
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence going against a Spag's defense. Isn't that the

1486
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 2: biggest red flag in the world to you that you

1487
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 2: just said he's been bad. I'm trying to go through

1488
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 2: his numbers here, because, like I, I know they won

1489
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:06,680
Speaker 2: that game. I did think it was because Purdy just

1490
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 2: putting his team in bad positions, which Mahomes won't do,

1491
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 2: and you do. You do have a triple arts. Again,

1492
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 2: it's a solid defense. I expected him to do bad.

1493
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 2: He was twenty one to thirty one for one hundred

1494
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 2: and seventy four yards and one touchdown and again not terrible,

1495
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:22,599
Speaker 2: but he definitely wasn't the reason they beat that four

1496
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 2: in ours team, right, it was the etn who was

1497
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 2: averaging six point five yards per carry. So I think

1498
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 2: you're right. Maybe I'm undervalue in this Jags offensive run

1499
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 2: scheme that has been so great at not making you

1500
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 2: realize how bad Trevor Lawrence is and kind of hiding

1501
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:40,760
Speaker 2: his weaknesses. And on the flip side, their defense, they

1502
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 2: do have a pretty good rush. They are better than

1503
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:46,800
Speaker 2: they've been in the past defensively. But I can't help

1504
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 2: but worry about a Jags team that they beat the

1505
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 2: Panthers week one, they lost to a backup in Week

1506
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 2: two against Cincinnati, barely beat Houston seventeen to ten on

1507
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 2: a fluki game. We both agree that probably shouldn't have won,

1508
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 2: and then beat to four Niners team that is just

1509
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 2: decimated by injury.

1510
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 3: Now they're going.

1511
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 2: Against a Chiefs team that looked to me like they

1512
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:10,639
Speaker 2: turned that page that that was a springboard game where

1513
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 2: they had worthy back. Their offense was clicking. You saw

1514
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 2: defensively they got confidence back. So I to me, it's

1515
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 2: just about the number. If you want to take the

1516
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 2: jag of three and a half, I agree with you. Historically,

1517
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 2: going against Mahomes, this is a good number. I am

1518
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 2: just terrified of this spot and I totally want to

1519
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:28,720
Speaker 2: fade this Jaguars team that's three and one.

1520
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 3: This just feels like Monday night game.

1521
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 2: Jags down thirty to seven, entering the third quarter just

1522
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:37,839
Speaker 2: totally train wreck by Trevor Lawrence, who threw three picks

1523
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 2: like I cannot believe you love this game. You're out

1524
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 2: of your mind making them your favorite bet.

1525
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 1: I well, look, I didn't want I really wanted it

1526
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 1: to be the Jets.

1527
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:47,240
Speaker 2: But ye, lock in the Jackson. We have to play

1528
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 2: with our contest because you're a psycho.

1529
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 1: I'm a total psycho.

1530
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:52,599
Speaker 2: And I can't believe you didn't love the Chiefs last week.

1531
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 2: You're you're missing it, I know.

1532
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 1: And you know what. I honestly felt so sick to

1533
01:14:56,920 --> 01:15:01,719
Speaker 1: my stomach that afternoon, and I'm like, are you freaking champs?

1534
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 2: Man?

1535
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:02,599
Speaker 3: The Chiefs.

1536
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 2: It's still the Chiefs. It still got spags, still got

1537
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 2: my home, still got Andy.

1538
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 3: I get it.

1539
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 2: They look so bad, but man, I can't believe we're

1540
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:12,840
Speaker 2: back in Jags three and a half. But I see

1541
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 2: where you're coming from. This is a good number. Jags

1542
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 2: have them playing well. Maybe I'm being too disrespectful to them,

1543
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:20,800
Speaker 2: but as soon as I saw this, I was like,

1544
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 2: oh my god, I'm getting the Chiefs right now. A

1545
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 2: couple of books haven't had three and I was like,

1546
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 2: that's the alarm bell is going off because Chad's right,

1547
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 2: the professionals are coming on this jack side. They're moving

1548
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 2: this number down to three. So again, I'm not trying

1549
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 2: to get you too much shit. I think you're reda

1550
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 2: is right here. I just from my standpoint, I'm just like,

1551
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:43,160
Speaker 2: oh my god, is this not a terrible spot. The

1552
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 2: Jags history, they always get rolled in this game where

1553
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:49,360
Speaker 2: we all start believing, start drinking the coolid income. The chiefs,

1554
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:52,640
Speaker 2: the same old chiefs who just they just wear you

1555
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:53,720
Speaker 2: out with that defense man.

1556
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:55,000
Speaker 3: They're just spags.

1557
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 2: It's just crazy, how good because they look so lost

1558
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 2: early in the year, It's crazy. I now know four

1559
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 2: weeks in this seems like they've turned it around. And

1560
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 2: like I said, I just are we overrating this Jagsuars team.

1561
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 2: We've played a very soft schedule to start the year.

1562
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:11,719
Speaker 1: It looks like we're gonna have our sharper square sharp

1563
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 1: versus square settled as well. All right, let's let's let's

1564
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 1: sort of.

1565
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:21,680
Speaker 2: But I'm telling you the sharp side earlier is that

1566
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:22,240
Speaker 2: jack side.

1567
01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:24,759
Speaker 1: Oh totally, it's the hook. It's the hook. It's totally

1568
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 1: the hook.

1569
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 2: The hook.

1570
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:30,800
Speaker 1: All right, So let's summarize here. I'm seeing Houston plus

1571
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:33,040
Speaker 1: three and a half. That was Simon says, we're gonna

1572
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 1: want to talk about that. Denver plus four and a half,

1573
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 1: We're gonna want to get some intel. I bet that'll

1574
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 1: be in sharp calls. You know. Norleans minus two was

1575
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 1: sort of a pass for me, But we can see

1576
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:44,800
Speaker 1: how the line moves over the course of the week.

1577
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:47,599
Speaker 1: Jets plus two and a half, it's moving to three.

1578
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:52,679
Speaker 1: It's gonna be hard to avoid that one. Tennessee plus

1579
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 1: eight and a half. I don't think we want to

1580
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:57,679
Speaker 1: talk about it. Then we got the Box plus three

1581
01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 1: and a half. You still like, We got the Washington

1582
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 1: plus three, which I think I agree with you. And

1583
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 1: then we got Jack's plus three and a half, which

1584
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 1: clearly we're on opal outside. Yeah, and I'm sure some

1585
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 1: other games will pop up. Caroline Up minus one and

1586
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 1: a half is one more that I want to think about.

1587
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that line will move a little bit more

1588
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 1: in our direction so we can get a better number

1589
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:25,559
Speaker 1: on Caroline up. But mm, spicy, spicy, I can't believe

1590
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 1: you called me out on that Chiefs game. How did

1591
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:27,800
Speaker 1: you know?

1592
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:31,439
Speaker 2: I just because I just know you where It's like,

1593
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:33,880
Speaker 2: I still couldn't believe going back, let's an orsenally show

1594
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 2: that I somehow I'm too nice on day mornings, I'll

1595
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 2: be the first time admit that I can't believe we

1596
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:40,320
Speaker 2: didn't have that one in there where It's like I

1597
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:41,759
Speaker 2: told you all week that was one of my favorite

1598
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 2: big bets, and somehow I got pushed out. I'm like,

1599
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 2: there's no ay Chad bet that. Why did he talk

1600
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:48,599
Speaker 2: me out of a seabside? And I knew I thought

1601
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 2: about it. I was like, once I got my sleep,

1602
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 2: I was like, I know, Chad chat d not bet

1603
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:53,680
Speaker 2: that Chiefs game.

1604
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 1: Do you know what's so funny is I thought about

1605
01:17:57,360 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 1: it and like, we've been doing the show long enough

1606
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 1: together and we're genuinely good friends in real life, and

1607
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 1: so I know you well enough, like when you talk

1608
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 1: about some games and the way you say frame them,

1609
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:13,680
Speaker 1: I know that it's a game you really like. And

1610
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:15,600
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this after I didn't bet it.

1611
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, I'm an idiot, Like how

1612
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 1: did I not recognize how much you really love this

1613
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:25,720
Speaker 1: game and like not actually go all in on it?

1614
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 1: And I felt like an idiot. So it's funny to

1615
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 1: me that you just completely completely called me out, So

1616
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 1: nice job, BFF, nice job, and I'm glad you were

1617
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:37,559
Speaker 1: thinking about me and how I reacted to it also,

1618
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:40,680
Speaker 1: so that means you know, it's an equal relationship. All right.

1619
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 1: This has been Sharper Square, part of the Volume podcast network.

1620
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:46,640
Speaker 1: We will be back on Thursday with the games. We

1621
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 1: are zeroing in plus our survivor Pick our SHARPESTUS Square,

1622
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 1: which we know what that's going to be, brass ball

1623
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:54,800
Speaker 1: so much more. Watch or listen on YouTube at Sharper

1624
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:57,680
Speaker 1: Square like this video, subscribe to the channel, download us

1625
01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 1: with Spotify, Apple Pods wherever you get your pods. Review,

1626
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:03,160
Speaker 1: subscribe mos five stars say whatever you want. Feedback is

1627
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:05,519
Speaker 1: a gift. Until next time, Love you