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Speaker 1: How's it going everybody? I am your host, Travis Wingfield.
Speaker 1: And on today's show, we have a lot to get
Speaker 1: to practice number eight and the books Sunshine, early, Torrential down,
Speaker 1: poor late QB one slinging it in the elements, finding
Speaker 1: the end zone, protecting the football. We'll talk about his
Speaker 1: day and the entire day of on field work for
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. Plus we met with assistant coaches ahead of practice.
Speaker 1: We talked to Tyreek Hill after practice. The best of
Speaker 1: those sound bites for you all, coming your way from
Speaker 1: the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex.
Speaker 2: This is the Draft Time posks Emmie Gaffe.
Speaker 1: So I've been trying my best to not make this
Speaker 1: a tua in Quarterback podcast every single day where the
Speaker 1: rest of the content becomes secondary. And thus maybe I've
Speaker 1: buried the quarterbacks a little bit too deep into the
Speaker 1: episode's the last few days.
Speaker 2: So today we're coming out of the blocks hot.
Speaker 1: Talking all things QBS, We're gonna start with QB one
Speaker 1: because the body of work now heading into tomorrow scrimmage
Speaker 1: at the stadium is a good sample size. And I
Speaker 1: tell you what, he is flat out cooking out here, guys.
Speaker 1: The confidence we've seen from Tua at the podium and
Speaker 1: press conferences, it translates to the field. And those of
Speaker 1: you that go back to my early content days know
Speaker 1: that my start was in quarterback evaluation and I watched
Speaker 1: more plays of Ryan Tannehill than any player in the
Speaker 1: sport at the time. Well two was getting to the
Speaker 1: point now where I've seen maybe more of his work
Speaker 1: than anybody. And the player I saw today, the player
Speaker 1: we've been watching for the last week plus, to me,
Speaker 1: is by far the best version of Tua we've seen.
Speaker 1: And given the fact that he was number one in
Speaker 1: several key categories last year, that's a bad sign for
Speaker 1: the rest of the league, guys. And this is why
Speaker 1: I always thought, despite the hip injury coming out of
Speaker 1: college and how that might stunt his growth or whatever
Speaker 1: you might have said about it, it's why I thought
Speaker 1: he was still worthy of the number five overall selection,
Speaker 1: even though it was natural to wonder would he be
Speaker 1: able to give back to the same player that he
Speaker 1: was him. Boy, has he the processing the consistency on
Speaker 1: the stuff built into the offense. I always thought that
Speaker 1: was what would give him a baseline level of success
Speaker 1: even right away, and it did. Right He was a
Speaker 1: winning quarterback as a rookie multiple games before his first turnover.
Speaker 1: You know, I thought the offense kind of took a
Speaker 1: step forward when he came into the lineup.
Speaker 2: He had the fourth quarter numbers over the course of
Speaker 2: his career.
Speaker 1: Into that twenty twenty one season, The difference between he
Speaker 1: and other quarterbacks playing that year under center for the
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins, it showed you something to build around. And
Speaker 1: then last year happened. Now we see him years removed
Speaker 1: from the injury. We see him with multiple off seasons
Speaker 1: worth of training to help transform his body and get
Speaker 1: back to the mobility and strength that he had pre
Speaker 1: injury and build up on top of that, and frankly,
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of transformed his game a little bit.
Speaker 1: Look thought the arm talent thing was tired and overplayed,
Speaker 1: and so I tried to stay away from it because
Speaker 1: I'm not in the business of knocking sixty yard completions.
Speaker 1: I think it's silly to do that. But man, those
Speaker 1: of you that have come out to practice this week,
Speaker 1: is there a throw that you don't think Tua can make?
Speaker 1: Is there anything we're missing with this guy?
Speaker 2: I don't see it.
Speaker 1: Yesterday I raved about the off balance three quarter armslot
Speaker 1: throw that he had. Today, I saw him drive a
Speaker 1: ball fifty five yards down the field to chosen for
Speaker 1: a home run. I saw him plant his feet, get
Speaker 1: the entire mechanical operation going to the perimeter on a
Speaker 1: little sale concept and show the throw to one target,
Speaker 1: bring the arm back across the body, and a no
Speaker 1: look shot passed into a secondary target once the defense
Speaker 1: had already moved according to his.
Speaker 2: Helmet and body positioning.
Speaker 1: Seeing him do it all, man, Tyreek talked about to
Speaker 1: his physical skill set a bit and one of the
Speaker 1: throws that he made at yesterday's practice in today's media availability,
Speaker 1: here's the Cheetah. It's good.
Speaker 3: It's grown crazy, man. You just the reception I had
Speaker 3: yesterday where he was able to throw it in between
Speaker 3: like three defenders was crazy. So it just goes to
Speaker 3: show the amount of trust that he has in me,
Speaker 3: you know, and you know I just feel like he's
Speaker 3: going to continue to grow.
Speaker 1: So that's Tyreek talking a little bit about the chemistry
Speaker 1: between the two of those guys and how it's grown
Speaker 1: this year. And the great Barry Jackson of the Miami
Speaker 1: Herald tweeted this and this is why I love Barry.
Speaker 1: He's got the numbers to help support my eye test claims.
Speaker 1: Barry had two with four red zone touchdowns today and
Speaker 1: that's accurate by my account, and several chunk plays that
Speaker 1: it just feels like a rinse repeat going back to
Speaker 1: training camp from you know, last summer, all the way
Speaker 1: through OTAs this year, and I guess end season last
Speaker 1: year as well, and all the way up through training camp.
Speaker 1: Right now, he's not throwing a pick and team period, guys.
Speaker 2: Not one.
Speaker 1: There's the one in seven on seven a great play
Speaker 1: by Cater Kohu won by Xavier and Howard and one
Speaker 1: on ones, and there was a drop picked in elevens
Speaker 1: two days ago, three practices ago. I don't know what
Speaker 1: it was, but it speaks to his proficiency, his trust
Speaker 1: and the offense and his receivers and just an overall
Speaker 1: level of comfort I think he's displaying. And like Tyreek said, man,
Speaker 1: it's it's just all buttoned up right now, and I
Speaker 1: can't wait for September tenth. A couple of plays to
Speaker 1: break down before the touchdown breakdowns, there was a couple
Speaker 1: of throws that, like Tyreek said, that just show the
Speaker 1: trust and the anticipation and the accuracy that he can
Speaker 1: play with. Where Tua had this throw to waddle into
Speaker 1: a tight window. It's just I wrote it in such
Speaker 1: a treat to watch it work every day. Because the
Speaker 1: ball is barely hitting the ground. He's finding ways to
Speaker 1: get off the spot to mitigate pressure, getting through his
Speaker 1: reads and showing off what looks to be to me,
Speaker 1: like McDaniel mentioned, all around better better physical skills, and
Speaker 1: we see it in a multiple in multiple ways. There
Speaker 1: was a nice rep for two where he got through
Speaker 1: progressions and he was hitching up in the clean part
Speaker 1: of the pocket after getting some pressure around the backside,
Speaker 1: and eventually he checks it down, but you see him
Speaker 1: surveying up top to chosen and you see a flag
Speaker 1: come out, and two almost like sees that and says, okay,
Speaker 1: well I got the five yards. Let's take this shot
Speaker 1: right here to a different part of the field. Just
Speaker 1: consistently understanding where his answers are when things are taken away.
Speaker 1: I think you're seeing that grow and develop a big
Speaker 1: time this training camp.
Speaker 2: Let's also go ahead and break down some of his.
Speaker 1: Plays for y'all's I had a front row seat for
Speaker 1: the three consecutive touchdowns he threw down in the red zone,
Speaker 1: all of them third down situations two, which that's three
Speaker 1: straight plays where he makes a play that's worth four points,
Speaker 1: you know, difference between a field goal and a touchdown.
Speaker 1: So the first one you saw our team account posted
Speaker 1: on Twitter, a beautiful seventeen yard touchdown strike to Waddle
Speaker 1: where the defense brings the house man.
Speaker 2: They's like a Geil break blitz.
Speaker 3: Two.
Speaker 1: A fades back into the pocket, kind of like the
Speaker 1: touchdown against the Browns last year to Tyreek, where he
Speaker 1: bought all the time he possibly could by fading away
Speaker 1: and holding onto the ball to the last possible minute
Speaker 1: to give Tyreek the two to three seconds he needs
Speaker 1: to uncover same situation, layers it to the back pylon
Speaker 1: and uses Wattle speed to run away from the defense,
Speaker 1: puts it right into a spot. Coverage is close, placements perfect,
Speaker 1: Wattle runs under a touchdown third and five play, high
Speaker 1: leverage situation offense cashes in for six now an absolute
Speaker 1: laser and low red zone. This one was maybe my favorite.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's tough to discern the different which
Speaker 1: one's better than the other. But third and goal from
Speaker 1: the three, and Tua throws this ball essentially to the pylon,
Speaker 1: just I would say, just kind of understanding how the
Speaker 1: play was going to play out before it ever did.
Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is Raheem isn't even
Speaker 1: like into his route yet, like his the back of
Speaker 1: his head's facing Tua, and Tua.
Speaker 2: Just throws it to a spot.
Speaker 1: And by the time Raheem gets to a spot, which
Speaker 1: goes back to that chemistry and trust and repetition for
Speaker 1: these guys, and Raheem becoming more of a receiver in
Speaker 1: his second year. Right when he turns around, the football's
Speaker 1: right on him at the flag, turns it up into
Speaker 1: the end zone. Really impressive back to back throws from
Speaker 1: Tua and then he gets a third touchdown to waddle
Speaker 1: right under the goalpost, throwing the ball to a spot.
Speaker 1: Just another area where I feel like Tua's trust comes from,
Speaker 1: like you know, you develop it from high level thinking
Speaker 1: akin to what coach said last year.
Speaker 2: In the Texans game.
Speaker 1: I think it was where he's miked up talking to
Speaker 1: Tua on the sideline about playing at a high level,
Speaker 1: the one where two is like not trying to hear it,
Speaker 1: saying yep, got to keep chopping wood. Coach and coaches like, nah, man,
Speaker 1: you are playing really well, just like believe it. So
Speaker 1: on this play, if the corner that Wattle is working
Speaker 1: on is not closing, or even better, if he's still
Speaker 1: getting depth, his ability to then transfer his weight into
Speaker 1: a drive down the field, it's not there. There's no
Speaker 1: like you have to be progressing that way to accelerate
Speaker 1: that way, and so there's no ability for him to
Speaker 1: disrupt the catchpoint, especially when you factor in how quick
Speaker 1: to us releases. So I feel like he can throw
Speaker 1: the ball essentially right at the dB, who's more work
Speaker 1: and like it's for the quarterbacks perspective and for someone
Speaker 1: that doesn't play the position or never has, I think
Speaker 1: you would think like I'm throwing the ball right to
Speaker 1: the defense.
Speaker 2: That feels weird.
Speaker 1: But he throws it to that spot because that's where
Speaker 1: Wattle eventually wants to cross face at and he can
Speaker 1: do this because he knows the DB's more worried about
Speaker 1: Wattle's speed and the move that he might make.
Speaker 2: So to a while the.
Speaker 1: DB's focus on where Wattle's going, I'm gonna go ahead
Speaker 1: and throw the ball, so you can't react to my throw.
Speaker 1: And it's another benefit of the speed because by the
Speaker 1: time he processes all of this, Wattle's already flashing right
Speaker 1: in front of him and there's the ball too. So
Speaker 1: to what's quickness matches the quickness of his receivers. Does
Speaker 1: that make sense? Not from the foot speed standpoint. His
Speaker 1: processing is in the same realm as Waddle and Tyreek's
Speaker 1: physical speed. And that's why I think this offense can
Speaker 1: be so special. And the fourth touchdown was a play
Speaker 1: similar to the pass breakup that Cam Smith had in
Speaker 1: the end zone, but the ball was right on target
Speaker 1: outside for Barrios to catch it, get the feed in
Speaker 1: at the front. Pilon just it was really a mastercraft
Speaker 1: day from number one. And you know, having watched him
Speaker 1: through eight practices now and all of last offseason, and
Speaker 1: having seen other quarterbacks here years before two was here,
Speaker 1: and reading camp reports from you know, even the pre
Speaker 1: Tannehill days, and just hoping that John Beck would have
Speaker 1: a good day. It's nice to see a real, true,
Speaker 1: very very good quarterback every day in practice. It makes
Speaker 1: the rest of the practice way more fun to watch.
Speaker 1: And I thought Mike White was terrific again today as well.
Speaker 1: I think there's a pretty clear hierarchy being developed here
Speaker 1: based upon practice performances. I think that click that coach
Speaker 1: was talking about occurred sometime last week early on in
Speaker 1: that week, because he's been spinning it, you know, pretty
Speaker 1: much since that bad Friday practice indoors when everyone talks
Speaker 1: about the sacks and the results in YadA YadA yah.
Speaker 1: But he's beating pressure. He's giving his guys a chance
Speaker 1: with the ball in their hands after the catch. I
Speaker 1: think he's getting the ball to the checkdowns fast enough
Speaker 1: for those guys to make noise after the fact, because
Speaker 1: when you're late down the field, it makes you late
Speaker 1: to the checkdown. But Mike gets through it quick enough
Speaker 1: to where he can get them in position to get
Speaker 1: yards after the catch and not lost.
Speaker 2: On you know me.
Speaker 1: Not An underrated fact by any means is putting the
Speaker 1: ball on those guys accurately so they don't have to
Speaker 1: go to the ground with it or you know drop
Speaker 1: the ball.
Speaker 2: I thought this.
Speaker 1: I thought his best ball was a twenty or so
Speaker 1: yard ripped to Barrios for a catch and run over
Speaker 1: the middle. He's been really throwing the ball in that area.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen anybody here do it like Tua ever,
Speaker 1: but Mike's been like the second best at it that
Speaker 1: I've seen so far. And he had a really nice
Speaker 1: throw in a situational drill where the offense had to
Speaker 1: get like twenty or some yards to get into field
Speaker 1: goal range with twelve seconds on the clock. All the
Speaker 1: quarterbacks got one rep. No one got it down the field,
Speaker 1: but Mike White did for about twenty five yards and
Speaker 1: a chance for a field goal. I want to go
Speaker 1: to offensive coorda or Frank Smith here for a little bit.
Speaker 1: As he talked about the second year in the offense.
Speaker 1: I've talked to everyone under the sound about this, including
Speaker 1: Mike and Tua, including you know, Greg Cosel back in Indianapolis.
Speaker 2: Everyone that I can talk to.
Speaker 1: I've talked to you about this, haven't had a chance
Speaker 1: to ask Frank Smith about it. How do you feel
Speaker 1: year two in the offense can benefit you guys?
Speaker 4: I think overall the guys they hear the concept, and
Speaker 4: now it's more of the not executing an assignment, but
Speaker 4: understanding what it attacks, how it attacks, how they work together.
Speaker 4: You know how quarterbacks progression fits on what they're trying
Speaker 4: to do. I think it's overall when you know you
Speaker 4: learned something the first time, you know, it's just trying
Speaker 4: to make sure you get it, and you learned this year.
Speaker 4: Now you're really taking this next level to the overall
Speaker 4: understanding of the offense and the concepts.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: So there you go, almost a whole segment, or it
Speaker 1: was a whole segment to the quarterbacks. Let's come back
Speaker 1: on the other side and finish up the offense, including
Speaker 1: a big day from devon a chain. We'll hear some
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Speaker 1: So we saw the passing game clicking on Friday's practice.
Speaker 1: The usual suspects were out there. Waddle got open a ton,
Speaker 1: especially in the red zone finding the paint with Tua
Speaker 1: at the controls. One of my favorite plays though, was
Speaker 1: from Mike White where he gets free on a third
Speaker 1: and fifteen play coming across the formation at least ten
Speaker 1: yards short of the sticks, probably more, and he catches
Speaker 1: the short pass with the defense kind of playing the sticks,
Speaker 1: and he just turns on the burners and uses the
Speaker 1: entire width of the field to get them to get
Speaker 1: the ball across the sticks before going out of bounds.
Speaker 1: And he ran by a couple of guys that I
Speaker 1: think didn't realize that they were kind of Gronkowski on
Speaker 1: Drake in that instance where they lost the angle. Those
Speaker 1: kind of plays swing games man, and Waddle makes them
Speaker 1: with regularity, but from from fourth and eight to a
Speaker 1: first down, like that's another possession you just stole because
Speaker 1: Wadell's so damn special, and Tyriek Sher commanded some attention
Speaker 1: today with his work. He was his usual self, flying
Speaker 1: off the snap and taking eyes with him, creating space
Speaker 1: for himself and others. A lot of those chunk plays
Speaker 1: came in the absence of coverage that was running with
Speaker 1: ten down the field.
Speaker 2: You just see his true.
Speaker 1: Snap by snap impact and why he's so valuable to
Speaker 1: this team. Gosh, those two receivers are fun to watch.
Speaker 1: So is Braxon Barriers, who I thought looked good again
Speaker 1: at today's practice. He's been getting evolved. The last couple
Speaker 1: of days, Chosen had the long catch from Tua where
Speaker 1: he got on top of the defender and used that
Speaker 1: long speed to stay there. I think those guys give
Speaker 1: you a really good mix inside in terms of their
Speaker 1: skill sets and how different personnel groupings can be attacking
Speaker 1: different defensive groupings with the skill sets they offer. It's
Speaker 1: a deep, versatile group. Wes Welker talked about that a
Speaker 1: little bit today. He also talked about Eric Azukama, who
Speaker 1: missed today's practice after exiting yesterday early.
Speaker 2: But we did hear from.
Speaker 1: Wes on Azukama, and I want to play this sound
Speaker 1: for you guys with coach on the second year wide
Speaker 1: receiver who they talked about this last season. I don't
Speaker 1: remember when it was, but how last year was almost
Speaker 1: a red shirt year for those first two rookies that
Speaker 1: were taking in the draft. But we're seeing both Azukama
Speaker 1: and Tendall play well this camp. Here's Wes Welker on
Speaker 1: Eric Azukama.
Speaker 5: No, Eric can definitely help us this year. I mean
Speaker 5: last year it was just hard getting him lined up,
Speaker 5: and now this year we're able to re lined up
Speaker 5: and now we can start to get into the details
Speaker 5: of the offense and how we need to do everything,
Speaker 5: and there's still a lot of work to be done,
Speaker 5: but you know the fact that he's lining up right
Speaker 5: and doing the right things and listening to the coaching
Speaker 5: and all those different things. He's progressing really well and
Speaker 5: leave some bounds better than what he was last year.
Speaker 1: We love the transparency you get with his coaching staff.
Speaker 1: I think you're also seeing tight end Elijah Higgins get
Speaker 1: some valuable work in his new position, including that in
Speaker 1: line work that comes along with that spot. I caught
Speaker 1: up with coach Embria talk about Elijah Higgins, but also
Speaker 1: he mentioned unsolicited some comments on Julian Hill and you know,
Speaker 1: speaking of transparency, EMBO's going to tell you how he feels.
Speaker 1: And I thought this was pretty telling about the two
Speaker 1: rookie tight ends he got in camp in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 6: Well, the first thing is, you know, just his ability,
Speaker 6: which you know, being from Stanford, you know you would
Speaker 6: think this would happen. But how quickly he was able
Speaker 6: to pick up the system and we were able to
Speaker 6: move him around. He's gotten better as a run blocker.
Speaker 6: That's always going to be a work in progress, but
Speaker 6: one of the things about him every time he takes
Speaker 6: a rep and I challenge him and Julian this all
Speaker 6: the time. I always tell him every day make new mistakes.
Speaker 6: And really, I can't think of a practice where they've
Speaker 6: made the same mistake twice that they've done two or
Speaker 6: three days earlier of the day before. So that's really
Speaker 6: impressed me a lot about both of them, because that's
Speaker 6: harder to do. It's easier to said than done. And
Speaker 6: you know, he he's running good with his routes. Haven't
Speaker 6: had a ton of ops as far as getting getting
Speaker 6: the ball throw to him, but they're putting a lot
Speaker 6: of good stuff on tape, so.
Speaker 1: That's the pass catching element. I thought the run game
Speaker 1: had won it's better day today as well. Raereheem Moster
Speaker 1: had his usual few runs where he found some creases
Speaker 1: and he just looks smooth and faster. I think, Jeff,
Speaker 1: that's the thing about this team, man, Like there's so
Speaker 1: many guys that were coming off injury a year ago
Speaker 1: or were new to the team, like a Bradley Chubb
Speaker 1: mid season or Jeff Wilson where in the first year
Speaker 1: the system on the offense for Tyreek and for Waddle
Speaker 1: and for Azukama. I just think there's a lot of
Speaker 1: incumbent growth we can see this year, which when you
Speaker 1: see the results last year, like we've done this in
Speaker 1: the pastes Dolphins fans, right, and I'm getting way off
Speaker 1: script here, but we've done this thing where oh, you
Speaker 1: know Ted Ginn year two, it's gonna the light's gonna
Speaker 1: come on for Ted Genning, your number two. You know
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill it's year at number five now, like he's
Speaker 1: finally gonna go from a twelfth best quarterback to the
Speaker 1: fourth best quarterback. And there's a million other names, right,
Speaker 1: But now, that belief comes from proof of concept. We
Speaker 1: saw it last year. We saw the number six offense.
Speaker 1: We saw two a dazzle, We saw Tyrek and Waddle
Speaker 1: set records. We saw the running game find its footing
Speaker 1: down the stretch. We saw Raheem Moster proved to be
Speaker 1: really a pretty good bell cow late in the season.
Speaker 1: So you have this proof of concept and you're building
Speaker 1: off of that opposed to building off hope, and why
Speaker 1: would you not believe in it? That's that's kind of
Speaker 1: my question is how can you not expect that big
Speaker 1: jump because of all those factors coming together and being
Speaker 1: back together for a second season when they you know
Speaker 1: self admitted it wasn't necessarily like fluid last year because
Speaker 1: it was the first year.
Speaker 2: And so man, I'm fired up about all that. I thought.
Speaker 1: The run game, you know, Raheem did what he did.
Speaker 1: Jeff Wilson looks explosive to me, like faster than last year.
Speaker 1: I cannot wait to watch him in live periods because
Speaker 1: he just runs so damn hard and he's gonna he's
Speaker 1: gonna drop the shoulder pad some guys when it comes
Speaker 1: to preseason games. But I know the one you all
Speaker 1: want to hear about Stevan a Chan and you should.
Speaker 2: He was very, very good today.
Speaker 1: Each day we see him influence the defense with his speed,
Speaker 1: his ability to press and force those players to come
Speaker 1: down from depth. It allows him to pop back outside
Speaker 1: when he can accelerate through his cuts, his cutbacks to
Speaker 1: the backside of the formation, and then you're anger, are
Speaker 1: in all kinds of trouble because of where he drew
Speaker 1: you in with where you thought he might go, and
Speaker 1: then he changes up on you. I think there was
Speaker 1: one play where he had Trill Williams coming downhill and
Speaker 1: it was if he makes trill miss that tackle, it's
Speaker 1: a seventy yard touchdown run. It was still a ten
Speaker 1: yard run. But I like my chances. If I can
Speaker 1: create three of those a game, that will hit you know,
Speaker 1: one every other game. That's you know, that's a lot
Speaker 1: of numbers, but you get what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1: I think he's just super effective in that aspect as
Speaker 1: a pass catcher. I think that his goal line work
Speaker 1: shows a lot of his skills too, where his ability
Speaker 1: to kind of change the angle or target point of
Speaker 1: the defender allows him to not get hit clean, it
Speaker 1: allows him to fall forward through contact and get extra
Speaker 1: crucial yards and down there, an extra half yard can
Speaker 1: be a touchdown. Let's go to Frank Smith, who had
Speaker 1: some thoughts on the rookie running.
Speaker 4: Back coming out of A and M. You know, I mean,
Speaker 4: you saw the explosive plays that he was able to
Speaker 4: make in the running game, in the passing game, and
Speaker 4: just you know, the NFL there just comes a you know,
Speaker 4: a process of understanding the volume increases, what we ask increases,
Speaker 4: and you know, and he's really working with Eric to understand,
Speaker 4: you know, all the nuances that come to the NFL
Speaker 4: level playing running back. Especially in this offense with being
Speaker 4: able to run the ball and then catch it, so overall,
Speaker 4: you know, where he's been working to so far has
Speaker 4: been very promising. And again the next couple of weeks
Speaker 4: for the guys, it's going to really be the great
Speaker 4: the greatest growth because you go against the defense for
Speaker 4: several weeks and then now it's going to change as
Speaker 4: we played different defenses. So it's gonna be a great
Speaker 4: opportunity for him to really.
Speaker 1: Grow an inside to the offensive line. It was great
Speaker 1: to see Tron Armstead back out there for eleven on
Speaker 1: eleven and he gets out there and did what he
Speaker 1: does lock down. His side was in there for some
Speaker 1: of those successful runs we talked about. I know we
Speaker 1: all saw it last year with a difference between Tea
Speaker 1: Stead on the field versus not pretty tangible. I thought
Speaker 1: Connor and Rob had some really excellent catching climb blocks
Speaker 1: Aday combo blocks where you go hip to hip, shoulder
Speaker 1: to shoulder, climb up to the second level after detaching
Speaker 1: off the first level defenders, and they really pave some
Speaker 1: way for some big runs that I talked about.
Speaker 2: Those guys.
Speaker 1: Typically the big runs in this offense up the middle
Speaker 1: come off of that right guard, and that's Rob Hunt.
Speaker 1: That's why you want to keep him there because he
Speaker 1: can generate some explosive in the running game for you.
Speaker 1: I liked the work of Lester Cotton today out there.
Speaker 1: We mentioned him in the podcast a few days ago,
Speaker 1: and he keeps finding himself in the notes. Could be
Speaker 1: a guy to keep an eye on going forward. And
Speaker 1: Dan Feeney, I think is the one on one champ
Speaker 1: so far. Every time I watch him in one on
Speaker 1: one drills, there is sixty seven causing a stalemate in
Speaker 1: pass protection drills.
Speaker 2: And that's all I got for you on the offensive
Speaker 2: line today.
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and take our last break right there
Speaker 1: and come back and do the defense. We'll hear from
Speaker 1: Coach Madison, Coach Fangio. I think I have more from
Speaker 1: Frank Smith as well. That's next Draft Time podcast, your
Speaker 1: host Travis Wingfield, brought to you by Auto Nation. Let's
Speaker 1: go ahead and pick it back up here the final
Speaker 1: segment of the week, although it's not because we have
Speaker 1: a podcast for you guys tomorrow and Sunday. I think
Speaker 1: I'm coming up on like fourteen sprints a podcast here
Speaker 1: pretty soon. Let's talk with coach Madison here who I
Speaker 1: asked about the leadership impact value of Jalen Ramsey and
Speaker 1: now that he's not available on uniform, how can he
Speaker 1: still provide value with his insight? If you guys saw
Speaker 1: me on Twitter, Jalen's without the crutches already. That's pretty impressive.
Speaker 1: He's at the seven to zero so far against the
Speaker 1: rehabit he's been working on. Here is Sam Madison on
Speaker 1: the impact of Jalen Ramsey, even though he can't give
Speaker 1: you number five on the field. Here he is in
Speaker 1: the impact of coaching the guys up on the sideline.
Speaker 7: I'm good. I mean, just like when he came in,
Speaker 7: you know, the first thing that he asked of me,
Speaker 7: you know, coach, what do you want me to do?
Speaker 7: I was like, man, I need you to be a
Speaker 7: coach on the field. You know, between myself Rinaldo, we
Speaker 7: played this game a very long time and you know
Speaker 7: that's what our coach is expective of us to be
Speaker 7: able to do what they ask us to do. But yet,
Speaker 7: and still, when you have guys out there that are young,
Speaker 7: don't have the experience that.
Speaker 8: You have, you have to be able to do that
Speaker 8: as well.
Speaker 7: So he and X been doing a really good job
Speaker 7: of communicating with one another, but yet and still communicating
Speaker 7: with those young guys because you never know whohen is
Speaker 7: going to be the next man up and lo and behold,
Speaker 7: it came sooner than we would really expect it. But
Speaker 7: you know, he's still in that same capacity, in same role.
Speaker 7: So just fun to be able to hear the things
Speaker 7: that was said about him in the past, but then
Speaker 7: now being able to see him firsthand, and then it's
Speaker 7: totally totally a blur of the things that you've got
Speaker 7: from other people.
Speaker 1: So also in the defensive backfield, Sam talked a little
Speaker 1: bit about Cater Coho and his growth. Tyreek said that
Speaker 1: his pick for a big second year breakout was cater
Speaker 1: Koho and it makes sense given the way those two
Speaker 1: have been competing every single day in practice. And Tyreek
Speaker 1: told us that Eli Apple has not really covered him
Speaker 1: in one on one jet because X and Cater keep
Speaker 1: claiming him, and Tyreek said he can't back down from
Speaker 1: those challenges, so maybe one day we'll get a chance
Speaker 1: to see him against Eli Apple. And I thought it
Speaker 1: was really funny his press conference that Tyreek said, of
Speaker 1: course I was okay with Eli coming down here. It
Speaker 1: just means I get an embarrassment every single day now.
Speaker 1: But it's not like that, like he talks about that
Speaker 1: at the press conference too, Like I didn't. Of course,
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna say no, you can't sign the guy.
Speaker 1: Like it's more of a social media thing than it
Speaker 1: is anything else. And yeah, Tyreek plays into it. But
Speaker 1: also I mean it's all just kind of for show.
Speaker 1: But you know, Cater gets those matchups. I think that
Speaker 1: it really says a lot about him that he wants
Speaker 1: to go challenge himself against number ten. You could go
Speaker 1: out there and say, let me get you know, on
Speaker 1: the receiver number nine and really boost my tape right now,
Speaker 1: or you can say, let me go compete against the
Speaker 1: best receiver in the NFL. And that's what he's done
Speaker 1: all camp long. And for Tyreek's comment about the breakout
Speaker 1: player this year, I would argue that Cater already broke
Speaker 1: out as a rookie, but again had some more really
Speaker 1: good work today. He's just not seeing many targets. We've
Speaker 1: kind of seen. The targets to x are never there.
Speaker 1: The targets to Cam Smith have kind of fallen by
Speaker 1: the wayside a little bit. And cater Koho. They're not
Speaker 1: trying him anymore. Those are the three guys I think
Speaker 1: I've had the best camp at cornerbacks so far. In fact,
Speaker 1: he and I mentioned Cam Smith. Cam Smith and another
Speaker 1: young cornerback put on a clinic today really separate in
Speaker 1: the hands of the receivers at the catch point, the
Speaker 1: hip pocket technique, play the ball through the receiver's hands.
Speaker 1: Because Tyreek gets on top of Noah Igbinoghany for a
Speaker 1: touchdown toss that had to be perfect from Tua and
Speaker 1: it was. Then he had two reps breaking up passes
Speaker 1: by getting into position, staying patient, and really driving that
Speaker 1: hand through the receiver's hands in the football to break
Speaker 1: it up. Cam Smith on back to back reps as well,
Speaker 1: although he ran off the back of that field, slipped
Speaker 1: in that damn concrete and he left practice a few
Speaker 1: plays later. So that happened at Troll Williams last year too.
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about the injury. We'll get you
Speaker 1: guys an update on that and find out when he
Speaker 1: comes back out for practice. I continue to love what
Speaker 1: I've seen from Javon Holland and coverage. I just think
Speaker 1: that he has the makeup to really do whatever he wants.
Speaker 1: In fact, we'll hear from Vic fangol here in just
Speaker 1: one second. He had a good touchdown sitting play near
Speaker 1: the pylon and not really live right now. But Javon,
Speaker 1: don't tell him that. Braxon Barrios catches a quick swing route.
Speaker 1: And I think sometimes it's easy to forget about Javon's
Speaker 1: ability as a striker because of the playmaking and the coverage.
Speaker 1: But he comes downhill and I could hear it from
Speaker 1: the other side of the field, you know, fifty rows
Speaker 1: up on the stands. He put a lick on Braxon
Speaker 1: Barrios and said, you will get no such goal line today,
Speaker 1: mister Barrios.
Speaker 2: So that was fun to see. He cannot wait to.
Speaker 1: Watch him strap it up for a live football game
Speaker 1: here soon. Let's hear from Vic Fangio on the safety.
Speaker 1: That man, he loves watching this guy play.
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's been very impressive. He's another guy that I
Speaker 8: really liked in the draft the year he came out,
Speaker 8: and he hasn't disappointed one bit. I think he's a
Speaker 8: hell of a player and should just get better and
Speaker 8: better every day every year and should be a top
Speaker 8: safety in this league.
Speaker 1: It's not try Dilly Javon Holland update. I thought his
Speaker 1: former college teammate Veron McKinley rip Pac twelve is pretty
Speaker 1: solid on that deep coverage aspect of his job. I
Speaker 1: thought there was a couple of plays day where they
Speaker 1: had some chances for deep shots, but he carried those
Speaker 1: deep routes and really made the quarterback go elsewhere. Did
Speaker 1: that a lot last year. I thought a good job
Speaker 1: of that again today. Bryce Thompson makes a couple of
Speaker 1: plays every single day. He might be my pick right
Speaker 1: now for safety five. If they go that way, I
Speaker 1: would say it's obviously the top three guys, Elijah Campbell
Speaker 1: and then probably Bryce Thompson. For me, I thought Channing
Speaker 1: Tendall had another excellent practice. Man has a player to
Speaker 1: every day where he's getting around the perimeter with that
Speaker 1: speed and cutting down run plays before they get started.
Speaker 2: And that happened again today.
Speaker 1: He also had his stuff and goal line work where
Speaker 1: he fit the gap, played downhill and arrived.
Speaker 2: With some thump to stop Auchmed's Ford momentum.
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and hear from Fangio, who praised where
Speaker 1: Chang Tendall is right now and where he thinks he
Speaker 1: can go with his natural talents.
Speaker 8: Channing's work and every day to get better, get a
Speaker 8: better understanding of the defense. Once he gets a better understanding,
Speaker 8: I think his talent will flourish.
Speaker 1: Man, If I thought that I was impressed by Andrew
Speaker 1: Van Ginkle, why don't we go ahead and hear with
Speaker 1: coach Vic Fanjo had to say about his linebacker off
Speaker 1: and on the ball.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think Van Ginkle has done a great job
Speaker 8: for since we moved him to inside as part time
Speaker 8: he's still outside. Also, he's picked it up really well.
Speaker 8: His football instincts and acumen flourish in there. He's done
Speaker 8: a really good job for a guy. That's a hard
Speaker 8: transition for a guy to move from an on the
Speaker 8: ball position to an off the ball position, and he's
Speaker 8: very well with it. And it's going to give us
Speaker 8: some good versatility throughout this season. I was, you know,
Speaker 8: we're moving him back and forth between the outside and inside,
Speaker 8: you know, and Nickel he could be a guy that
Speaker 8: could rush from the outside and in base defense. We're
Speaker 8: trying him inside just because we still have him. Found
Speaker 8: a fourth, fifth or sixth d lineman.
Speaker 1: Some pretty good radical candor there from Vic Fangio. What
Speaker 1: else here is Seeler and Wilkins new day, same story.
Speaker 1: You guys know, the drill, consistent work in the run game,
Speaker 1: consistent pass rush. How about Coach Fangio's thoughts on Christian Wilkins.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Christian was a guy that I really liked the
Speaker 8: year he came out in the draft, and he's exceeded
Speaker 8: my expectations. He works really hard in practice, he grinds.
Speaker 8: He's talented, and with his talent and work ethic, he's
Speaker 8: one of the top players in the league.
Speaker 1: You heard coach mentioned Agbat earlier. He had a couple
Speaker 1: of sacks today he flashed that cross chop in a
Speaker 1: dip rip move. That really those long arms and powers
Speaker 1: how he wins out on the outside. I think Cameron
Speaker 1: Goods getting his fill this camp. Every day he makes
Speaker 1: the notes of something that he did run or pass.
Speaker 1: I thought Randy Charlton was a menace in one on
Speaker 1: one drills, and Jalen Twyman won that period with a
Speaker 1: really impressive body of work and pass rushing. Let's play
Speaker 1: some more audio here from the two coaches, Frank Smith.
Speaker 2: And Vic Fangio. Before we get out of here.
Speaker 1: This one from Frank Smith, who told us about the
Speaker 1: challenges of facing a Vic Fangio defense and how it's
Speaker 1: helped the offense grow in this year training camp.
Speaker 4: I mean, you're working with him in Chicago. It's a
Speaker 4: lot of the same same things. Of the multiplicity of
Speaker 4: what they do, with the multiplicity of the coverages, it
Speaker 4: all starts looking the same. It makes us have to
Speaker 4: really be on our recognition, beyond our communication and beyond
Speaker 4: our fundamentals. So I think that we overall have been
Speaker 4: able to really work on our our game, are our
Speaker 4: techniques what we're trying to accomplish through what they're providing,
Speaker 4: because hey, you assume something and the next thing, I know,
Speaker 4: it changes. So I think it's helped us a lot,
Speaker 4: and you know, again excited for the next two days
Speaker 4: to really keep growing upon it.
Speaker 2: Let's finish up here.
Speaker 1: I thought it was cool to hear this about McDaniel
Speaker 1: and Fangio's working relationship and how they.
Speaker 2: Can benefit one another.
Speaker 1: You'll hear it here, But I just want to add
Speaker 1: the commentary of like, I'm there for it when he
Speaker 1: needs me, and he has needed me a few times,
Speaker 1: but I'm also not going to like, you know, steamroll
Speaker 1: the guy and take, you know, ownership of his job.
Speaker 1: I just love this answer here from Vic about the
Speaker 1: question was being a former head coach, do you want
Speaker 1: to offer Mike McDaniel anythings you've picked up or do
Speaker 1: you stick to being the d C.
Speaker 8: Well, I'm there for any time Mike wants to use
Speaker 8: me as a resource, and he does that on occasion.
Speaker 8: You know, I've got my hands filled trying to run
Speaker 8: the defense and I'm not going to try and impose
Speaker 8: my will on things. But Mike's not reluctant to ask
Speaker 8: an opinion, and if he wants to use it, he can.
Speaker 8: If he doesn't, he doesn't.
Speaker 1: And there you have it, clocking in right around thirty
Speaker 1: minutes on this episode. In the meantime, it's going to
Speaker 1: be my time back on Saturday for the Scrimmage podcast
Speaker 1: and Sunday a special Zach Thomas podcast with the guys
Speaker 1: from the Fish Tank and Zach's speech trum Canton. All
Speaker 1: of that coming away on draft time Monday, I think off,
Speaker 1: and then Tuesday right back at it for joint practices
Speaker 1: against the Atlanta Falcons. The next Friday we have a
Speaker 1: football game. Until then that's going to be my time
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