Speaker 1: Episode is Episode one eighteen, Tips for creating a Capsule Wardrobe.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Frugal Friends podcast, where you'll learn to
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Speaker 1: Here your host Jen and Jill m M m m.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Frugal Friends podcast. My name is Jen,
Speaker 1: my name is Jill, and today we are playing a
Speaker 1: greatest hit that you guys loved and still love, and
Speaker 1: it's about creating a capsule wardrobe. This has been a
Speaker 1: lifestyle now we're about to talk about it. But capsule
Speaker 1: can be defined in a lot of different ways, but
Speaker 1: just minimizing clothing, not becoming so stressed out and not
Speaker 1: saying I have nothing to wear anymore because you love
Speaker 1: what's in your closet. Yeah, And I think more so
Speaker 1: is is just creating versatility. I think that is the
Speaker 1: after you listen to this episode, Versatility is really the
Speaker 1: word we want you to take away from all of this.
Speaker 1: So we're very excited to re share with you what
Speaker 1: so many of you have already gotten so much out
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Speaker 1: I can't wait for next year. So like I start
Speaker 1: on December looking forward to the next year, so it
Speaker 1: really is never too early for me. And I got
Speaker 1: my amazing cute niece and me only had to be
Speaker 1: just as exciting as just as excited as me every
Speaker 1: time we see each other, we're like, Chrid's almost Christmas.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what time of year it is. It's
Speaker 1: like our thing that's adorable. Well, let's transition to clothing,
Speaker 1: and this can include your Christmas UH capsule as well.
Speaker 1: You can have different capsules depending on your climate and UH.
Speaker 1: If you want to cue up a few extra episodes
Speaker 1: to play after this kind of in the same realm um,
Speaker 1: you can check into episode two eleven, which is how
Speaker 1: to save money on clothes, and then episode one fifty
Speaker 1: six how to avoid impulse spending, because that's a big
Speaker 1: thing with clothes. I feel like sometimes I will go
Speaker 1: into my closet and say I have nothing while I'm
Speaker 1: looking at all of these clothes, and then just go
Speaker 1: out and buy clothing without any actual plan for it,
Speaker 1: just because I like it, without thinking of the versatility,
Speaker 1: the quality, the longevity of style. So this is going
Speaker 1: to try. We're gonna try and help you move away
Speaker 1: from that cycle into a more intentional cycle. So without
Speaker 1: further ado, let's do it. Let's dive into our first article,
Speaker 1: Thank you yours. I see that look on your face.
Speaker 1: I'm just like not understanding, but going with it. I'm on,
Speaker 1: I'm along for the ride. If you have had a baby,
Speaker 1: you understand. It's I'm still working on getting back into
Speaker 1: my pre pregnancy clothes, which is people that just get
Speaker 1: there without trying. But it's why a capsule wardrobe could help,
Speaker 1: so that you don't have to buy as many clothes
Speaker 1: to keep up with your carbon take. I know I'm
Speaker 1: about to give up and just like go out and
Speaker 1: buy new clothes, like I'm done with like body shame, guilt.
Speaker 1: So I'm excited for today is second article, specifically, the
Speaker 1: first one is from Courtney Carver, and we had her
Speaker 1: on the show um a while ago. I should have
Speaker 1: looked up the name or the number, but we we
Speaker 1: had her talking about minimalism, and this is her article
Speaker 1: on how to build a capsule wardrobe because she actually
Speaker 1: created project three three three and that is all about
Speaker 1: having thirty three items and using only those for three months.
Speaker 1: And so to me, that's a little like more extreme
Speaker 1: than a capsule wardrobe, but still a cool challenge to
Speaker 1: try if you want to. Yeah. I like first of all,
Speaker 1: this specific article that we're talking about today and that
Speaker 1: we're sharing in our show notes goes through how to
Speaker 1: how to build a capsule wardrobe, not necessarily what you're
Speaker 1: going to have in it, but the process of it.
Speaker 1: But I also like how she goes into some definitions
Speaker 1: and some reasons for doing this. Um and my own
Speaker 1: abbreviated version of a definition of a capsule wardrobe is
Speaker 1: just a small collection of useful clothing that you love. Like,
Speaker 1: at its core, that's what it is. Certainly, there's all
Speaker 1: sorts of people who go into different numbers of how
Speaker 1: many clothing, what type of clothing, what exactly are the
Speaker 1: pieces and articles of clothing, whether whether you're doing seasonal
Speaker 1: or if it's just all year this number of clothing
Speaker 1: needs to last you, Like, there's all sorts of approaches,
Speaker 1: but at its core, we are talking about a small
Speaker 1: collection useful, meaning like it's functional and hopefully there's some
Speaker 1: longevity to it and you really like the clothing, rather
Speaker 1: than having twenty five you know, different types of the
Speaker 1: same article of clothing and none of them really work
Speaker 1: for you. We're talking, we've paired it down. These are
Speaker 1: the clothes that work for us, and then we love Yes,
Speaker 1: and I found the episode that Courtney was on his
Speaker 1: episode fifty nine perfect yes. Sorry all right, So, uh,
Speaker 1: let's start with her top three reasons to build a
Speaker 1: capsule wardrobe. Um So, the first one is to figure
Speaker 1: out what matters. I love. I love all three of
Speaker 1: these reasons, especially number two. Um So, she says, if
Speaker 1: you're overwhelmed with stuff and business, you may have forgotten
Speaker 1: what really matters to you. Um how you like to
Speaker 1: spend your time and the dreams you had for your life.
Speaker 1: Living and dressing with less helps you reconnect and remember.
Speaker 1: Sometimes to figure out what matters, you have to get
Speaker 1: rid of everything that doesn't so true, and we say
Speaker 1: the same thing with spending. So like when we do
Speaker 1: know spend challenges, sometimes you have to get rid of
Speaker 1: everything to remember or to realize what really matters, what
Speaker 1: you really value us sending money on. It's the same
Speaker 1: with clothes. Yeah, I think it clears the clutter, so
Speaker 1: to speak, like physically and metaphorically, to kind of gain
Speaker 1: a new perspective similar to what I think vacations can
Speaker 1: do for us. Sometimes we wonder why are vacations so
Speaker 1: different from staycations or just when I have a weekend
Speaker 1: at home, and I think part of it is we
Speaker 1: remove ourselves from our typical environment and we can get
Speaker 1: a new perspective on things. And so this is that concept.
Speaker 1: Remove yourself from so much of your typical way of
Speaker 1: living and environment and maybe even what you wear to
Speaker 1: gain a new perspective, there's often realizations that can come
Speaker 1: along with that process. M HM. Second reason to build
Speaker 1: a capsule wardrobe is that it reduces decision fatigue. I'm
Speaker 1: sure that this is a concept that you've heard about before,
Speaker 1: but it's really this idea that if we eliminate the
Speaker 1: number of this decisions that we make, we can think
Speaker 1: more clearly and we have capacity to make the bigger,
Speaker 1: more important decisions. Um that if if we're not needing
Speaker 1: to choose every single morning between fifty different outfits, we
Speaker 1: will probably be able to better parent, we will be
Speaker 1: able to better um work in our environment, at our careers,
Speaker 1: at our jobs. And this isn't the only thing We're
Speaker 1: not saying only if you clear out your clothing, but
Speaker 1: this kind of mentality where we kind of eliminate decisions
Speaker 1: that don't really matter to create space for the rest
Speaker 1: of things. And I think this is particularly a problem
Speaker 1: that we face um in in the North, as as
Speaker 1: Americans or as people who are comparatively to the rest
Speaker 1: of the world wealthy. We have so much, We have
Speaker 1: so much excess. So I mean, first of all, it's
Speaker 1: a privilege to even say, how are we going to
Speaker 1: pare down our wardrobes? Holy smokes, what a problem to
Speaker 1: have that we have so many clothing that we've got
Speaker 1: to figure out how to make our lives more simple.
Speaker 1: But I do think that we can reap a lot
Speaker 1: of benefits if we can simplify so much. It's part
Speaker 1: of why I love all the and I it's overwhelming
Speaker 1: to me to go into regular grocery stores now to realize,
Speaker 1: oh my word, I don't need twenty five different choices
Speaker 1: on peanut butter. It's like I've realized that I've now
Speaker 1: been conditioned to have one or two options, and I
Speaker 1: like that, and it does create space and freedom, and
Speaker 1: it takes less time to shop at all the Anyhow,
Speaker 1: we're not talking about groceries, talking about clothing, but similar
Speaker 1: concept that if I've got less clothes in my closet,
Speaker 1: I have less decisions to make on it. Life is simpler,
Speaker 1: and I'm freed up for other things. Yeah, definitely. And
Speaker 1: and that kind of like leads over into the next
Speaker 1: one is that it creates more space and time for
Speaker 1: what you love. So fewer decisions you have to make,
Speaker 1: more time you have for everything else, and when you
Speaker 1: figure out what matters, that's what you can fill that
Speaker 1: time with, So frustration, less time of being frustrated. I've
Speaker 1: got nothing to wear, everything's in the laundry or you
Speaker 1: got to dig through stuff. Holy smokes. Yes, yeah, So
Speaker 1: I found that the article, once we get into them,
Speaker 1: you know, the step by step, it felt to me
Speaker 1: a lot like meal planning. So it goes back to food,
Speaker 1: like you can't do a capsule wardrobe episode without food.
Speaker 1: I'm hungry right now. So that's maybe why. But so
Speaker 1: so the first one on her less on step by
Speaker 1: step how to build a capsule wardrobe is to first
Speaker 1: see so to take out all of your clothes, your accessories,
Speaker 1: your jewelry, your shoes, put it all on the bed,
Speaker 1: get it all in your um, in your eyesight, so
Speaker 1: that you can easily uh see and sort. I can't
Speaker 1: stress this one enough. And I will say I've tried
Speaker 1: both methods. I've tried the get it all out, let
Speaker 1: me see everything, and I've tried the method of just
Speaker 1: like one drawer at a time. But I feel like
Speaker 1: when it comes to clothing, you have got to see
Speaker 1: it all at once because you forget what you have
Speaker 1: and you could be keeping things around that you don't
Speaker 1: actually need. Because when you're able to see it all
Speaker 1: at once, you can see, oh, this is actually how
Speaker 1: many tank tops I have? Or how many longsleeve shirts
Speaker 1: or sweaters or scarfs or you name it. So so, yes,
Speaker 1: you do have to carve out a good amount of time,
Speaker 1: particularly depending on how much you have. It might not
Speaker 1: all fit on your bed. Let's be honest. You might
Speaker 1: need to haul all this to your living room or
Speaker 1: like the largest room of your house. But make sure
Speaker 1: you can see it all. I really I can't encourage
Speaker 1: that enough. Yeah, I love the last line. It might
Speaker 1: make you laugh or cry, but either way you'll never
Speaker 1: want to do this again. Yeah, so it'll keep you
Speaker 1: on that trajectory, I'll tell you, man. Yes, I got
Speaker 1: to a bad point where things were just shoved and
Speaker 1: it was overwhelming to see how much I had, and yeah,
Speaker 1: not doing that again. Okay, So now that it's all
Speaker 1: laid out and you've got it sprawled everywhere and you
Speaker 1: feel incredibly overwhelmed, you've got to get to work. And
Speaker 1: number two is sort so you're gonna want to move
Speaker 1: the clothes to different piles. And these are the four
Speaker 1: different piles that you want to make love That one's easy,
Speaker 1: like I love it, I love it, it fits me
Speaker 1: well and where often my goodness, like don't have me
Speaker 1: depart from like my second born two. Second pile is maybe,
Speaker 1: like I think I want to keep this. I don't
Speaker 1: quite know why. I'm not quite ready to make a
Speaker 1: full decision on this, so like possibly I'll come back
Speaker 1: to it. Third pile is donate. This just doesn't fit
Speaker 1: my body or my life. I never wear it. I
Speaker 1: haven't worn it in a year. We're going to donate this.
Speaker 1: And lastly is trash. I will say repurpose if possible.
Speaker 1: I hate seeing clothing go to the dump. But I mean,
Speaker 1: if we're talking like Undy's that should have never been
Speaker 1: in your closet for five years? Yeah, um, But if
Speaker 1: it's possible to make it into rags or if it
Speaker 1: if it can go to a friend or something like that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that could be another pile. But mostly we're
Speaker 1: talking love it. Maybe donate and keep going until you
Speaker 1: have gone through your entire pile. Uh yeah, she said,
Speaker 1: roll around on your bad get your feet up in
Speaker 1: the air, scream, drink water, eat snags, but don't stop.
Speaker 1: Like this is why you got a carve out the time,
Speaker 1: because otherwise and you're just gonna be stuck with a
Speaker 1: trash pile that just keeps getting moved around and then
Speaker 1: you sleep there and then it never ends and then
Speaker 1: you get tired of it and you shove it back
Speaker 1: all in your closet again. So no, that's not happening
Speaker 1: this time. We're doing it all at once. You can
Speaker 1: see you were like speaking from like things that have
Speaker 1: actually happened in her life. Is just like how I
Speaker 1: talked to myself when I'm doing this. And then you
Speaker 1: need to get the items that you're planning on getting
Speaker 1: rid of, on donating out of your house like immediately
Speaker 1: that like that day, if possible, even if that means
Speaker 1: it's moving to the garage or it's moving into your car,
Speaker 1: But we want to avoid the time when you get
Speaker 1: so tired of seeing the piles that you just throw
Speaker 1: it back into your closet. Don't waste all the hard
Speaker 1: work that you've done. Yeah, I always put it straight
Speaker 1: into my car, Like I don't even let it sit
Speaker 1: in my house, so that way it's there and I
Speaker 1: can just when I'm by a thrift store, I just
Speaker 1: drop it off. It's already either. But once you've done
Speaker 1: your initial sweep, go back through again. So now look
Speaker 1: at what is in my love pile, what's in my
Speaker 1: maybe pile? And see, Okay, are these items that I
Speaker 1: do still want to keep? Or is it still so
Speaker 1: much that I should go back through my maybe pile?
Speaker 1: Compare it to what I have in my love pile?
Speaker 1: Do I have similar items already that that that what
Speaker 1: was in my maybe I now can toss. Because now
Speaker 1: you've even got fresh eyes on things. We're probably so
Speaker 1: frustrated that you can run off of that motivation to
Speaker 1: be like, you know what, we're just we're tossing stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing this anymore. Get rid of the weight
Speaker 1: or maybe you want to take you want to sleep
Speaker 1: in your bed and then the next morning take a real,
Speaker 1: real look at your love and maybe worst case scenario.
Speaker 1: You can put your maybe not even worst case. This
Speaker 1: is a great step that you can do. You can
Speaker 1: put your maybe pile into plastic bins and put that
Speaker 1: into your girl as you're you're attic or under your
Speaker 1: bed and sit on it for a little bit. But
Speaker 1: definitely don't keep your donate and trash piles. Those have
Speaker 1: got to get out of the house otherwise you'll change
Speaker 1: your mind. Exactly. Um. And then the next step is choose.
Speaker 1: So she's specifically talking about choosing thirty three items, UM
Speaker 1: by category. So, and this is across this instance in
Speaker 1: each category. This is just across all the categories. And
Speaker 1: most people say thirty to forty items is a capsule wardrobe.
Speaker 1: That's not hard and fast. You you choose, there's no number.
Speaker 1: The number is not important. The important thing is that
Speaker 1: you are being intentional with your choices. Um. So she
Speaker 1: has a list of different things, and we'll go into
Speaker 1: that in the next one. But like you have to
Speaker 1: choose like jeans, dresses, skirts, like make sure you have
Speaker 1: a variety of of things you wear like. She also
Speaker 1: has like button down shirts and blazers. I'm not going
Speaker 1: I don't own a blazer. I'm not going to get
Speaker 1: a blazer. I don't wear blazers. I work at home.
Speaker 1: I'm wearing my pajama shorts right now. So I mean
Speaker 1: that's this what people what are on people's list is
Speaker 1: not going to be the same for everyone. So be intentional.
Speaker 1: If you live in a climate that is very radical
Speaker 1: in seasons, then what a kind strength s based way
Speaker 1: of describing that, then thank you. I mean, then you'll
Speaker 1: have to go with separate capsules, so you'll need a
Speaker 1: winter capsule in a summer capsule, and you know, etcetera. Um.
Speaker 1: But first, so for me, we have two seasons. We
Speaker 1: have hot and not hot, and so I have hotter
Speaker 1: hot and hotter. So I have Uh. I used to
Speaker 1: have to like wardrobes, but then I did the con
Speaker 1: MARII um cleaning, and now I just have one. I
Speaker 1: don't even have separates. Um. But that's kind of getting
Speaker 1: a little out of control, so I'm gonna have to
Speaker 1: like redo. But so it just it's based on your
Speaker 1: lifestyle and where you live. Yeah, and I think that's
Speaker 1: a good point. You do have to edit. It's not
Speaker 1: like oh I've arrived. Sometimes clothing gets worn out, or
Speaker 1: it doesn't fit anymore, or we we change careers, or
Speaker 1: we're doing something different with our lives, or COVID hits
Speaker 1: and suddenly it's sweat bands and we don't need blazers anymore. So, yes,
Speaker 1: it can shift throughout life. But the goal of this
Speaker 1: is for us at least, is to approach this category
Speaker 1: or of our lives in a frugal way. You can
Speaker 1: do a capsule wardrobe and spend a ton of money,
Speaker 1: So it's not as if this is always going to
Speaker 1: be the most frugal way of doing something. You know,
Speaker 1: some people will will do capsule wardrobe and every single
Speaker 1: season change out what their capsule is and they buy
Speaker 1: the most expensive pants and the most expensive coats and
Speaker 1: all this stuff. So there, yes, there's all different types
Speaker 1: of approaches. The way that that I do it, and
Speaker 1: I think we are suggesting for our frugal friends is
Speaker 1: that this can be a way towards frugality and that
Speaker 1: we can use what's in our closets already to keep
Speaker 1: us from spending more and more every time we go
Speaker 1: to the store. But to say, you know what, how
Speaker 1: do we aim at contentment with what's in our closet,
Speaker 1: but also make sure that what's in our closet we
Speaker 1: like and we wear, and its suits our purposes, so
Speaker 1: that we can be content with what we have exactly.
Speaker 1: And I think you're describing some barriers to like, and
Speaker 1: I think that's worth talking about, like what would keep
Speaker 1: people from doing this? And I think one of them,
Speaker 1: first of all, it's the seasonal thing that you've already mentioned.
Speaker 1: And so there you go. If you live in a
Speaker 1: place that has how did you describe it, drastic changes
Speaker 1: and climate extremes, so yes, have different capsule wardrobes. Like
Speaker 1: you don't have to do it the same as someone
Speaker 1: living in San Diego who is like always in seventy
Speaker 1: degree weather. It looks different for you. Also, there's this
Speaker 1: question of oh, my word, you're gonna take it all
Speaker 1: away from me, like all of my clothes, I've got
Speaker 1: to give it all up. No, we're saying, let's get
Speaker 1: rid of the things that we don't like anyways that
Speaker 1: cause clutter that we don't wear, doesn't suit our purposes,
Speaker 1: so that we can see what we actually wear, so
Speaker 1: that we can reduce decision fatigue, and so that we
Speaker 1: have space for more in our lives. It doesn't have
Speaker 1: to be thirty three items. It can be if you
Speaker 1: like that challenge, but paring down to the essentials. And no,
Speaker 1: you don't have to give it up again. Like I said,
Speaker 1: if you've got your maybe pile and you're like uncertain,
Speaker 1: what if I do end up wanting to wear this,
Speaker 1: put it in a bin, put it away, but get
Speaker 1: it out of sight and start to feel what it's
Speaker 1: like to live with less. Yeah, and even if you
Speaker 1: have a capsule wardrobe, that doesn't mean that you are
Speaker 1: not allowed to go shopping. You know, you can still
Speaker 1: if that's something that if you there's something you need,
Speaker 1: or if you just want to go shopping, if that
Speaker 1: is something you enjoy and you've put it in your budget,
Speaker 1: you don't have to stop just because you have a
Speaker 1: capsule wardrobe. You can add things to it and then
Speaker 1: re you know, redo it every season or year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can add things or even and and take things away.
Speaker 1: Rule that I made for myself once I felt like
Speaker 1: I got to a point where, all right, my closet
Speaker 1: is at its max and where I want it to be,
Speaker 1: so I can still like see everything all at once
Speaker 1: and I don't have to like have really strong muscles
Speaker 1: to like dig through my closet get dressed in the morning.
Speaker 1: Although I do want strong muscles, but not for that reason.
Speaker 1: I made a rule for myself that if I bring
Speaker 1: something else in, I've got to get rid of something.
Speaker 1: So if I do want to go to the thrift
Speaker 1: store and get like crazy good deals because that just
Speaker 1: like revives me for whatever reason, then when I bring
Speaker 1: home a shirt, I've got to get rid of a shirt.
Speaker 1: I bring home a pair of pants, I gotta get
Speaker 1: rid of a pair of pants. And so it's made
Speaker 1: me more intentional with my purchases and made me question
Speaker 1: do I really need this? Is this better than what
Speaker 1: I already have? Will this last me longer than what
Speaker 1: I already have? Is this an upgrade from that other
Speaker 1: shirt that I typically wear? Those kinds of things? And yeah,
Speaker 1: it has created just greater intentionality with my spending. M
Speaker 1: H good word. And so I think that can lead
Speaker 1: us to our next article, which is ten capsule wardrobe essential.
Speaker 1: So like, what should you have? And I have seen
Speaker 1: a lot of lists, and a lot of people have
Speaker 1: a lot of different opinions, and I think it's like
Speaker 1: the people that write these are more like ashiony, so
Speaker 1: they have maybe a bigger they wear more types of clothing,
Speaker 1: uh than I would. So these ten actually are an
Speaker 1: expansion of what wardrobe includes. Yeah, I think Courtney had
Speaker 1: and this one has ten, and it's still an expansion,
Speaker 1: but we'll go through it. And like Jen said, though,
Speaker 1: this is still not this does not have to be
Speaker 1: exactly what your closet looks like. There is freedom and
Speaker 1: all of this, but to give a guideline or a
Speaker 1: template for what the experts of capsule wardrobes typically say.
Speaker 1: Here it is yes, and this one's from the Blissful Mind,
Speaker 1: and uh yeah, so the first one I mean this,
Speaker 1: I will say, first, this is my color palette. If
Speaker 1: you go to this website and see the examples, it's
Speaker 1: literal all black and then some white and gray and
Speaker 1: then one denim shirt which but it's all black. I
Speaker 1: like as well. But I will say I think that
Speaker 1: that's a barrier for people also is that they think, like, okay,
Speaker 1: capsule wardrobe, so it all has to match. Therefore I'm
Speaker 1: gonna look like I'm in mourning all of the time,
Speaker 1: and that's not true either. And definitely search the internet
Speaker 1: for your more funky fun you can choose your color palette.
Speaker 1: I will say it is easier if you're really pouring
Speaker 1: down to choose a color palette where most things match
Speaker 1: with most things. But it does not have to be gray,
Speaker 1: black and white unless you love that. Unless you love that,
Speaker 1: everyone's like you have to have a little black dress.
Speaker 1: You don't, You don't. Maybe your little black dress is
Speaker 1: blue or red or dress the colors. Yeah, your dress
Speaker 1: can be whatever color you want it to be. It
Speaker 1: doesn't even have to be little. Whatever you want doesn't
Speaker 1: have to be little, a big old, colorful dress, all right.
Speaker 1: So first on this list is tank tops. So I
Speaker 1: mean like yes, because you can wear it under shirts
Speaker 1: over shirt though under shirts, uh, tank tops are my
Speaker 1: shirts right at? Tank tops a hundred degrees outside right
Speaker 1: and and tank tops, especially if they are simple, can
Speaker 1: go with a lot of different things. I wear them
Speaker 1: a lot with shorts as well as dresses as well
Speaker 1: as to work out in. So you just can go
Speaker 1: from morning to noon tonight in a tank top. H Yes,
Speaker 1: And you want to have a variety of colors including black,
Speaker 1: white and gray or peach teal and brown. Right now,
Speaker 1: So if you're on the YouTube video, you will see
Speaker 1: that Jill is wearing pink and flowers and she's got
Speaker 1: hoop earrings in and I'm wearing just like a gray
Speaker 1: T shirt. You've got a cute little bandana in your
Speaker 1: head because your head because my hair is still really
Speaker 1: like post birth regrowing. It's it's still a problem, all right.
Speaker 1: Next is a short sleeve tea, so you'll want to
Speaker 1: have you can have all or one depending on your preference.
Speaker 1: But v neck, scoop neck, and crew neck. Again, you
Speaker 1: want to have a variety of colors black, white and gray, yes,
Speaker 1: or yellow shark shrews. That's the same thing. Um, what
Speaker 1: else I want to say, A little green green? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but those are Yeah. I mean I'm literally wearing a
Speaker 1: gray scoop neck right now and it's beautiful. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: what am I wearing? Crew neck? Um? I think you're in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a blouse. It is a blouse, and it's an
Speaker 1: embroidered blouse and I love it and it works for
Speaker 1: me and I wear it with a lot of different things.
Speaker 1: But yes, I do especially like T shirts, especially your
Speaker 1: plain teas, because they can go from very casual to
Speaker 1: a bit more professional depending on what you pair it with.
Speaker 1: If you do pair it with a nice cardigan or
Speaker 1: a blazer or or some dress pants versus putting it
Speaker 1: with your yoga pants or your shorts. So I think
Speaker 1: that particularly some good teas are good. Now this is
Speaker 1: another thing. This does not give us license or permission
Speaker 1: to go and buy all of these things because we
Speaker 1: think we need them because a cute blog made them
Speaker 1: look cool. Uh, you don't need all three of the
Speaker 1: different types of necks. You don't need all the different
Speaker 1: colors that they that you need. Just look for what
Speaker 1: you already have, uh, and pare it down to your favorites.
Speaker 1: And maybe you would get to the end and say,
Speaker 1: you know what I am missing kind of an essential
Speaker 1: tea or an essential card Again, fine, and maybe that
Speaker 1: replaces like three other things that hardly work. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: so I will say, like, so the next two on
Speaker 1: the list, um are long sleeve teas and blouses, and
Speaker 1: so I don't own those, Like I don't really have
Speaker 1: any reason to wear a blouse, like I don't do
Speaker 1: business meetings the business meetings I do do, or with
Speaker 1: other people in their pajama shorts. And then a long
Speaker 1: sleeve tease. It just doesn't really get that cold here,
Speaker 1: and so I do own more tank tops and more
Speaker 1: T shirts because I don't own these other things. So
Speaker 1: that's another reason to just do you whereas I do.
Speaker 1: I have like a good amount of my wardrobe is
Speaker 1: what I can and where professionally, um, when I am
Speaker 1: with clients or doing training, So uh, that that's a
Speaker 1: good portion of my It's it's why jen you see
Speaker 1: me wearing this shirt that like looks like, oh my word,
Speaker 1: you're so dressed up. It's so funny because I will
Speaker 1: get together with people in the evenings and we're like,
Speaker 1: you always look so put together. And it's really not
Speaker 1: that I'm trying. It's just that this is my wardrobe.
Speaker 1: I have four shirts, I've got three pants, I've got
Speaker 1: a couple of skirts and a couple of dresses. And
Speaker 1: that it's it's comfy for me. I've found things that
Speaker 1: are comfortable to me that I really like, but I
Speaker 1: can wear it both professionally. That just takes me into
Speaker 1: the evening as well. So it's because I have a
Speaker 1: capsule wardrobe that I now look put together. And honestly,
Speaker 1: I don't mind that now I'm like great, I can
Speaker 1: just be all day and something that I really like,
Speaker 1: and it looks like people think that like I try,
Speaker 1: which is nice. Yes, I am known for trying. Whoa,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh. All right, let's let's freeze set. You've
Speaker 1: got sweaters. Of course that depends on climate, but having
Speaker 1: a few typical like sweaters that work for you. Um,
Speaker 1: they say black dress again, like Jen said, doesn't have
Speaker 1: to be a black dress. Certainly, they can be paired
Speaker 1: with a lot of different things. Um, you're not in
Speaker 1: a box with the type of shoes that you need
Speaker 1: to have and purses and accessories, but address find a
Speaker 1: find a dress or two that you really like and works. Yeah,
Speaker 1: versatile dress. Um. Then we've got cardigan. That's something that
Speaker 1: I do have a few of because that's you know,
Speaker 1: our winters are kind of cardigan winters. Um, but blazers
Speaker 1: the next one, don't have them. Don't have any blazers.
Speaker 1: I actually do have one because I got it from
Speaker 1: my friend. I will say that, but it's kind of
Speaker 1: it's a sweater material, so it's just like a fancy sweater.
Speaker 1: So maybe you're getting some things that are versatile in
Speaker 1: that way, like a blazer that's kind of like a sweater.
Speaker 1: And the final two are jeans or ankle pants, you know,
Speaker 1: your typical kind of lounge around but also be able
Speaker 1: to go out on the weekend. And then they say
Speaker 1: black skirt. Again, I will argue skirt of some sort, uh,
Speaker 1: if you want, if that's your style. If not, then
Speaker 1: add in a few more pants or jeans. Done, that's
Speaker 1: your list. That's in there is your ten. But for
Speaker 1: like me, it's still like six T shirt pants. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they like they didn't mention shorts like the different tight
Speaker 1: like they didn't mention your loungewear either. So I do
Speaker 1: think sometimes when people talk about how many things are
Speaker 1: in their capsule, they're they're not including loungewear, pajamas, work,
Speaker 1: grunge clothes like actual kind of like manual labor clothes.
Speaker 1: So again, you gotta make it work for you, which
Speaker 1: is also sometimes when I'm wearing throughout the day. So yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know it's not grungy. Oh and I can
Speaker 1: always make work for me. Yes, the bill the week,
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Speaker 1: a month, but you're just finding money. Well done, It's
Speaker 1: so wonderful. Now it's time for the next most exciting
Speaker 1: the So Jill and I are gonna go round Robin
Speaker 1: and we're going to talk about So what you always
Speaker 1: wear and what you never wear but people say that
Speaker 1: you should. Yes, what do you think? I've been really
Speaker 1: vocal about it, so I guess we could probably guess
Speaker 1: what Jen always wears. So, Jill, So why don't you
Speaker 1: start out? Then? Okay, So things that people say you
Speaker 1: should have in a capsule wardrobe and that I agree with,
Speaker 1: or that I do always wear, like cardigans and scarves
Speaker 1: are pretty standard for me, and it really doesn't matter
Speaker 1: this season. Uh, Winter, winter, spring, some all. There you go.
Speaker 1: It's you're just gonna get singing somehow every episode. That
Speaker 1: is all that we're allowed to. Otherwise it's gonna sound
Speaker 1: too much like the original. So and I have my
Speaker 1: winter scarves and my summer scars. I've got my more cheer.
Speaker 1: I just like them. I feel like it dresses up
Speaker 1: my outfits. Also, I travel a ton and I find
Speaker 1: that scarves are really helpful in case the plane is cold.
Speaker 1: I mean, granted my travel has gone down the tubes,
Speaker 1: so maybe I can get rid of my scarves. Nah,
Speaker 1: But they help as like maybe a blanket, or you
Speaker 1: can wrap it around you as a shawl. I just
Speaker 1: feel like they're so versatile. Tile and I love them,
Speaker 1: and cardigans, Holy smokes, where would I be without you?
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm giving a speech like the Tony's.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what the Tonys are, but to
Speaker 1: cardigans and scarves, I don't know what I would be
Speaker 1: or who I would look like without you. Doesn't matter
Speaker 1: the season. You're always there for me. Yes, So would
Speaker 1: you say that scarves might be your signature accessory, Like,
Speaker 1: what would you say is your signature signature. I don't
Speaker 1: think I'm to that level of fashion to say that
Speaker 1: I've got, but like it's just something that you're always
Speaker 1: like wearing, like it's your go to. Yeah, sure, yes,
Speaker 1: maybe that most people don't wear all of the time.
Speaker 1: I'm not wearing a scarf right now, but yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's a staple for me. It maybe something that that
Speaker 1: sets that doesn't set me apart. People wear scarves. I
Speaker 1: like hats too. I don't have a ton of them,
Speaker 1: but I wear scarves more. Sure, sure, gen for the
Speaker 1: sake of this conversation, Yes, and okay, I would say
Speaker 1: my signature accessory would be pearl earrings. They are really
Speaker 1: my go to. I don't wear a lot of jewelry
Speaker 1: besides my wedding rings and my pearl earrings. That's kind
Speaker 1: of my go to, my safe space because they go
Speaker 1: with everything. Great on you, thank you, And I would
Speaker 1: love to wear like I used to wear a lot
Speaker 1: of hoops. I used to be much more adventurous with
Speaker 1: my fashion. Um, and then you have a baby now
Speaker 1: I don't go out much, so that's that I think
Speaker 1: would be my nature. Um, and also athletic war That is,
Speaker 1: because I work out three to four days a week,
Speaker 1: and so I just figure I'll just wear what I'm
Speaker 1: going to work out in during the day too, because
Speaker 1: nobody sees me. So that's the difference though, between you
Speaker 1: and I feel like most of the rest of people,
Speaker 1: like people are just wearing athletic whereas if they're about
Speaker 1: to work out and it doesn't actually happen, it's different
Speaker 1: if yes, I am going to the gym and I'm
Speaker 1: wearing athletic wear versus this is just I'm not like,
Speaker 1: you're probably not going to find me working out, But
Speaker 1: this is what I thought you meant, Like other people
Speaker 1: don't stay in their house. That's the difference between you
Speaker 1: and other people, like other people go outside. No, I
Speaker 1: was giving you a compliment about you working out, but yes,
Speaker 1: thank you. So someing that I feel is always on
Speaker 1: these lists of capsule wardrobes that just confuse me. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's not that I don't wear these things, but I
Speaker 1: also don't feel like they should count in the overall
Speaker 1: number of items that you have. And first of all, jewelry, Now,
Speaker 1: I don't wear a ton of jewelry and I have
Speaker 1: crossed over to saying I pretty much want my jewelry
Speaker 1: to be real because I do want to pare down.
Speaker 1: I don't want to have a ton of costume jewelry.
Speaker 1: So I I am beginning to make the crossover into
Speaker 1: everything that I wear being real jewelry, real gold, real gems,
Speaker 1: reel silver, so that it can last and it doesn't
Speaker 1: like give me infections because been there, done that, and
Speaker 1: I'm not sev anymore. Uh, And so I do typically
Speaker 1: I want to wear my necklace in the pool, in
Speaker 1: the shower, wherever, and so yes, however I don't count that,
Speaker 1: like if it's just constantly on my body, I'm not
Speaker 1: counting jewelry. And also sun glasses what they're just essential.
Speaker 1: Sunglasses are are not a part of your gapsule wardrobe,
Speaker 1: like you just you need to have sunglasses. I don't
Speaker 1: need their eyes. That's not it's not a capsule thing
Speaker 1: that in my opinion, Um, I also agree with the
Speaker 1: jewelry thing. And then also heels are not in my
Speaker 1: capsule wardrobe because I have some heels that I got
Speaker 1: from a friend and actually I will have to wear
Speaker 1: them in her wedding. But other than that, like skinny
Speaker 1: heels like real heels. I why why Because they make
Speaker 1: you look good. I don't know. People think that they
Speaker 1: make their legs look good and then and then it
Speaker 1: makes you taller. But you don't need that. I don't
Speaker 1: need to be taller. So that's probably just a thing
Speaker 1: from my height. Like I've always been taller, so I've
Speaker 1: never worn heels, so that is a thing. I did
Speaker 1: go through a short phase where I bought some like
Speaker 1: wedges because I was like single and bitter, and I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna be taller than everyone. I'm going
Speaker 1: to tower above them and be better. That was an
Speaker 1: unhealthy period in my life, but I got out of
Speaker 1: it good. Well that's it. That's all. So Jill, are
Speaker 1: you um? Are you still wearing cardigans and scarves? I
Speaker 1: think I said cardigans and scarves doesn't matter the season.
Speaker 1: I must have still been living in Pennsylvania, you were, No,
Speaker 1: there are no there are no cardigans and scarves happening anymore.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what is happening dresses, and that doesn't
Speaker 1: matter the season. I have dove headfirst into Florida living
Speaker 1: and I love hurts and dresses. I work from home.
Speaker 1: No one ever sees me. It's really not even about that.
Speaker 1: It's so comfortable and and I can go from home
Speaker 1: to something that I need to do in the great
Speaker 1: outdoors with ease, and it is part of my capsule
Speaker 1: wardrobe for me. Still not a lot of jewelry, and
Speaker 1: I have become more picky as I get older, and
Speaker 1: I have made a statement that I want all of
Speaker 1: my jewelry that I wear often, Like I have rings
Speaker 1: that I just never take off, and they need to
Speaker 1: be real, like real gold, real gems, stones, the real deal,
Speaker 1: so that I can wear them in the shower and
Speaker 1: I can do dishes while wearing them. And so that
Speaker 1: also has been really minimized. By not doing a bunch
Speaker 1: of costume jewelry, only getting nice pieces here and there,
Speaker 1: that has also minimized. And I love all the jewelry
Speaker 1: that I wear and it's real. Mine has transformed a
Speaker 1: little bit as well. When we recorded this episode, I
Speaker 1: would work out in the afternoon, so I'd wear my
Speaker 1: athletic wear during the day and then go work out.
Speaker 1: Now I work out in the mornings, so I'm wearing
Speaker 1: regular clothes throughout the day. I don't wear athletic wear
Speaker 1: anymore unless I'm working out, so I am still buying
Speaker 1: second hand, but like very just a lot of cotton,
Speaker 1: just a lot of cotton um and tank tops in
Speaker 1: the summer. So my it's the same wardrobe, but just
Speaker 1: like less athletic war during the day because I work
Speaker 1: out in the morning. And still no heels. Um. I
Speaker 1: do have one pair of heels and it is the
Speaker 1: same pair that I had two years ago, and that's it.
Speaker 1: But it's like it's a chunky heel. It's actually pretty
Speaker 1: comfortable and I got them for free. Um. But still no,
Speaker 1: not really any jewelry. Maybe some ear rings, a necklace
Speaker 1: here and there. We basically so basic. But we both
Speaker 1: have the basic white girl nos ring that never comes off.
Speaker 1: Why have we not talked about that? Jen and I
Speaker 1: both have a nose ring. We have. I have talked
Speaker 1: about it on other people's podcasts. Somebody said, yeah, well
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that. Well, we can talk about that later.
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Speaker 1: Frugal Friends is produced by Eric Sirian. So you talk
Speaker 1: about our nose rings. Another podcast I did recently when
Speaker 1: someone was like, oh, that I love your nose ring,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, yeah, it's so basic. Jill
Speaker 1: has one too. It is the basic white girl nos ring.
Speaker 1: Like and you're if you're listening, you can't see it
Speaker 1: right now, you know exactly what I'm talking about. It's
Speaker 1: a it's a hoop, just you know, just a very
Speaker 1: thin mind's rose gold because my wedding rings a rose gold.
Speaker 1: But Gen has a very dainty hoop, and I have
Speaker 1: the very very tiny stud Most people don't realize that
Speaker 1: I have a nose ring because it's that small. I
Speaker 1: forget that I have it because it's that small. But
Speaker 1: all of my nieces and nephews, it's so funny. They
Speaker 1: hit like age two and they suddenly notice it, but
Speaker 1: they're kind of creeped out by it, like they always
Speaker 1: look mesmerized. It's it's it's always right around to each
Speaker 1: one of them right in line have gone through this
Speaker 1: phase where they see it and they just kind of
Speaker 1: start to stare and I realize what they're staring at,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, is it my nose ring? I'm like,
Speaker 1: do you like it? And they're just kind of like
Speaker 1: a deer in the headlights, and like, do do you
Speaker 1: want to touch it? Like no, no, no, no no,
Speaker 1: like like it's like a spider on me or something. Um,
Speaker 1: So all of them have been mesmerized. They've all hated it,
Speaker 1: and I've not changed. Nobody ever hated my nose ring.
Speaker 1: But I have always hated the stud on me like
Speaker 1: I had my I've had my nose pierced several times.
Speaker 1: One time I got it pierced. The last time I
Speaker 1: got a pierced and his stuck. Um. I got my
Speaker 1: nose pierced with my mother in law and my sister
Speaker 1: in law. The three of us got our noses pierced together,
Speaker 1: and they never they'll never pierce it with the hoop.
Speaker 1: The only pierce it with the stud. And I've always
Speaker 1: hated the stud. I worked in restaurants in college, and
Speaker 1: so several times I had to just take it out
Speaker 1: completely because they wouldn't let me have it for some reason.
Speaker 1: It was and it was a different time back then.
Speaker 1: I don't worked at plenty of Plate. Yeah, my first jobs,
Speaker 1: technically I wasn't allowed to have face jewelry. But again,
Speaker 1: my stud was so small. I would be like a
Speaker 1: year into my employment and be like, oh, you have
Speaker 1: a nose ring. I was like, yeah, I've had it
Speaker 1: this whole time, so like it's no problem. Right. Also,
Speaker 1: that was the same place where you weren't allowed to
Speaker 1: wear perfume. Many any companies have prohibitions on perfume. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I get that. Because some people are sensitive to sense,
Speaker 1: but nobody is sensitive to somebody else's nose ring. So
Speaker 1: that so finally when I started working for myself, I
Speaker 1: got to well, not for myself, I was still working
Speaker 1: for someone else, but he doesn't care about rules, so
Speaker 1: he let me do whatever. Eric No for Eric, my
Speaker 1: old boss Greg, he was the best boss man I've
Speaker 1: had man ever since I graduated UM grad school and
Speaker 1: like started working in my field. I had one not
Speaker 1: good boss. But then well I've only had two bosses
Speaker 1: in my field, and one was all right, and the
Speaker 1: other one was like the best, like the radst I
Speaker 1: just and you know that's and so I can't I
Speaker 1: feel so much pain for people who don't have a
Speaker 1: rad boss. He was a UM he was an anarchist,
Speaker 1: and he was like very into the culture and and
Speaker 1: he lived it. And it was just a fantastic ride
Speaker 1: to watch. You weren't honest, you were just watching the ride, right,
Speaker 1: It was a fantastic ride to watch. It was like, man,
Speaker 1: your life and he's just a regular dude with a
Speaker 1: wife and two daughters. And just this is why people
Speaker 1: are afraid of nose rings, because it leads to conversation
Speaker 1: about anarchy. So yeah, this is this is why they
Speaker 1: don't want face jewelry. All right, well, it takes back.
Speaker 1: I don't take back this episode, though. Neither do I