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Speaker 1: We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship and

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Speaker 1: railvalr No, no, sibling. You don't do that with your mouth, Vely.

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Speaker 1: That's good. Okay, let's talk about this. Actually. You know

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Speaker 1: what's so fun is that I know it's fun. I

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Speaker 1: We've been holding off on this one because so we

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Speaker 1: we interviewed Glenn and Leslie Powell. We've been holding off

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Speaker 1: we're now putting it forward is because, oh the Danger

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Speaker 1: That's the first time I saw a tongue go into

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Speaker 1: just chewing her gum graving it, like what is this?

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Speaker 1: What is this thing? And I remember I was like

428
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429
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430
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431
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Speaker 1: as that is pretty gross. I mean so basically you

432
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,520
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433
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 1: great brother. No, He's the best brother in the world.

434
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Speaker 1: He's always been like my biggest fan. I've always been

435
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Speaker 1: his biggest fan, and like watching him do what he

436
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 1: does in his career, it's like he did everything before

437
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 1: I'm doing it. I'm three years behind him, and so

438
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 1: any like terrible day i have or question in what

439
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: I'm doing, He's like, oh, He's like I've been there,

440
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,280
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441
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442
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 1: I love you, so Glenn's the best older brother. I'm

443
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 1: so jealous. I just I wish I hadn't. All while

444
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 1: we've talked about this, but if there were a brother competition,

445
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 1: I would have won it, I know, but I made her.

446
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: It's not I know, it's not competition. We've talked about

447
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 1: this before because because I was an asshole to her,

448
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,639
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449
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:18,399
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450
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451
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:26,640
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452
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453
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454
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,399
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455
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:46,280
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456
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501
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: all right, I'm leaving Texas. Your sister went into law school. Yeah,

502
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: so Lauren was working at a law firm by that point, right, Okay,

503
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: you came out here to be at you became a

504
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: many I was a manny, You were a man right,

505
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: you were You were staying in a bel air house awesome,

506
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: teaching their kids how to play sports yep, for stupid

507
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: amount of money. No. No, I was staying at this

508
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: a state for a bed basically, but I had like

509
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: guest bedrooms and I had like my own pool. Yeah,

510
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: Like it was crazy. Did you house it and stuff

511
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: like that when they were out of town? But there's

512
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: no had a staff of like twelve. How did you

513
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: meet these people? Again? So it's just it's just friends

514
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: of friends, like family friends that we kind of grew

515
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: up around, but like I didn't really know them on

516
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: a personal level. How old were you when? When when

517
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: you when you moved to LA And oh I was

518
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: nineteen and so you were sixteen or your sixteen seventy? Still? Yeah,

519
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: I high school. But I've only been here a year,

520
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: So like he moved like way before I did. Oh

521
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: you've only been in LA for a year. Oh that's

522
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: the thing is, like I did the lead blocking like

523
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: I established, I established, you know, rooting here. Yeah, it

524
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: took me five years to get like a meeting and

525
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: then she just like she's literally taken over the town

526
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,239
Speaker 1: in less than a year. It's crazy to watch. What

527
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: are you doing? She sings her ass off. No, I know,

528
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: I know, I know, But you taking me in writing.

529
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: So I write music for I write pop music and

530
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: all different genres, and then I license it to TV

531
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: and film and advertisements, and then write for other people

532
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: and then sing and then sing, and then I do

533
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: my own thing. So it's really fun. Like he's basically

534
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: living the life I wish I would have lived. Do

535
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: you sing stuff like this girl you are to me

536
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: what a perfect woman should be and a dead love

537
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: song iry in this podcast, And it's happening. It's happening.

538
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: You guys don't even know. So you came to So,

539
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: you came to La. You became a manny you started auditioning. Uh,

540
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,719
Speaker 1: Denzel Washington's Asian ed La motto who is? But that's

541
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: why he was the guy that convinced me to come

542
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: out here. And Denzel and then I became a many

543
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: was trying to just get jobs and that was like

544
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: two years of basically not auditioning and just getting shut

545
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: down and then ed passed away. Yea, after I had

546
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: after passed away. He was like literally my guardian angel,

547
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: the guy that I talked to every day, the reason

548
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: that I was out here, and it was the first

549
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: time in this town that I felt like alone. I was.

550
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: I was in a really bad and then all of

551
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: a sudden, I that family got a divorce and I

552
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: like moved up to like a garage and van eyes

553
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: and was like living up there, and I when I

554
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: had to get to my door, I had to like

555
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: pass like a barking dog that was trying to bite

556
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: me all the time. And I didn't have AC and

557
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: it was the middle of the summer, and I was

558
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: getting sued because I got unemployment benefits and then I

559
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: found out like residual checks were going back so I

560
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: made no money, and then I was also getting sued

561
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: by California. Wow, it was just a bummer. You know,

562
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: life is just like really tough and it just wasn't

563
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: working out and all that all those dreams of who

564
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: you thought you were gonna be just sort of You're like, shoot,

565
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: like I've always believed in myself like nobody else, and

566
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: I was willing to do what it takes. But it

567
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: was like the first time I was like, who I

568
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: got to strap in for this? This is gonna be

569
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: It's gonna be right. No, you're probably getting to that

570
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: age where you're like, oh, is this going to be

571
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: my career? Am I gonna is this going to be

572
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: a failure? Yeah? You sort of start making uh versions

573
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: where you're like, okay, I may not be you go, okay,

574
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: I want to be be a trade tom cruise, right,

575
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: And then you're like, maybe all right, maybe I'll be

576
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: like alright, maybe I'll be that guy in the in

577
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: the background that gets punched by my mission impossible, Like no,

578
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: I no, I get it. It's it's it's the age

579
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: old Hollywood story. But then every once in a while

580
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: one slips through the cracks and you end up getting

581
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: a break. And your break was I'd probably say my

582
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: break was Expendables was probably the the one that I

583
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: had kind of no business being in, but I got

584
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: a shot and it put me on a poster with

585
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: a bunch of of guys. I've been idolizing my whole life.

586
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: And did you have that thing like the brad Pitt like,

587
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna dress in a chicken suit if I have

588
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: to to, like make it kind of thing for you

589
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,719
Speaker 1: or you like I'll do anything, Like I'll just you

590
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: know when you know when you can. Here was like

591
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: I'll take any job. I mean, there's there's obviously a

592
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: line of like what i'll do for money? Is there? No,

593
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: there's not. Oliver, But now that I'm past it, I

594
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: feel like I feel like he'd be in the chickens. No.

595
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: I mean at the end of the day, like to

596
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: make money, it's like be out here, you sort of

597
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: have to have no sort of pride about what you're doing.

598
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: I remember getting I applied to the Beverly Hills Hotel

599
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: as a as a towel boy, and I got the job,

600
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: and I was really pumped about it. And I got

601
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: fired after a week because because I had not gotten

602
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: any auditions. I had no auditions for a long time,

603
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, the week that I

604
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: got the job, that I was like, all right, I

605
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: got it. I gotta make money. I got like three

606
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: auditions and so I was like, hey, it's my boss,

607
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: Like hey, I got another audition, and he's like, hey,

608
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: I heard a cowboy, not an actor. I'm like, well,

609
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to be a towboy for the rest

610
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: of my life. But also like this is not normal. Yeah,

611
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: and so that's what I was like, all right, there

612
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: were and then you do odd jobs for people, you know,

613
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: you work on sets, is different things and just try

614
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: to you know, make ends meet. But again that was

615
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,720
Speaker 1: that was where when that do or die moment happened

616
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: in Van Eyes, where I was like I was at

617
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 1: the end of my ropes. I remember my grandfather died.

618
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: I was being sued by California. I like there was

619
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 1: a big job that I thought I was going to

620
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: get that I didn't get. It looked like my agent

621
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: was probably gonna drop me. And it was just like

622
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,280
Speaker 1: one thing after another, and the dog that had basically

623
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: been chasing me my entire journey to my door back

624
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: and forth with his skate was just sitting between like

625
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: I was just like pettigab and I was like crying

626
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: on the back thing, and I was just like this sucks.

627
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: This sucks, you know, you know, and I just I

628
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: just remember, it's just it's good to look back on

629
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: those moments, because not that those moments are over. It's

630
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: not like I'm totally out of the woods, but I

631
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 1: definitely feel really lucky because I know exactly where I

632
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: could be. Yeah, no, it's true. And and I think too,

633
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: It's like one of those things where, you know, Kurt

634
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 1: always said to me, I remember when I was acting

635
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: all time when I was younger, and he goes, well,

636
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: hold on a second, you know, because I said, I

637
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 1: really want to audition. I was still in high school

638
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 1: and they wouldn't let me do it. And Kurt said,

639
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 1: let me ask you a question, you know, like how

640
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: much do you want to be an actor? Like do

641
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: you want to be an actor? Because there's this sort

642
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: of success, this idea of success or like would you

643
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 1: be happy in Nebraska and community theater performing? And I

644
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 1: remember saying to p I'm like, well, obviously if I

645
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously I want to have success. I mean

646
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: that goes out saying, but like, I don't think I'd

647
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: ever not be able to be on a stage in

648
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: some capacity. I have to do it, you know, Like

649
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: I still haven't sang right, I don't care who listens,

650
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: who's there. I could it could be all of her, like,

651
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: but I would it would be hope not. He's like,

652
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: and he knows this about every time I come into case, like,

653
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,720
Speaker 1: he plays new song I wrote, and I'm like, oh, okay,

654
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 1: I just I gotta go. I gotta pick up the

655
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 1: kids and I gotta go. Hold on, I gotta play

656
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: this song. I'm like, ize performing send it to all

657
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: of it. I felt like lights in my studio. The

658
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: success shouldn't be what determines how much you love something,

659
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: because then you'll be miserable. Because this is one of

660
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: the hardest careers to have a sustained success in period.

661
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: You know, I either say if you want to be

662
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: an actor, you're either you have to be a little

663
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: bit crazy. You just have to because it's not It's

664
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: not a grounded right, You're not around grounded people. You're

665
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: not in a grounded world. No, and same with you.

666
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: So here you come two kids coming from very grounded parents,

667
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,240
Speaker 1: and now you say, I'm going to be a musician.

668
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 1: So when was that that you actually connected to it

669
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: being other than Glenn kind of being your cheerleader. But like,

670
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: this this is what is this is my calling. I

671
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: have to do this. I went to Nashville for the

672
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: first time my sophomore year of college and there was

673
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,760
Speaker 1: this family that basically adopted me and let me also

674
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: stay in their guest house. And there I had a mentor.

675
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: His name was aj Masters, and he had written all

676
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: these old country hits and he kind of took me

677
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: under his wing and was like, I think you can

678
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: do this like he and if I did well in

679
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: a session, he'd take me into another session. But he

680
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: was like the only person I really knew in Nashville,

681
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: and I met him randomly through somebody, and so then

682
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: I kept going session to session. I was like, this

683
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: is awesome. And then I realized I didn't want to

684
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: do country music after like three years, because I just

685
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: it's not me right. But he gave you a foundation.

686
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: But he gave me a foundation. He taught me how

687
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: to write, He taught me how to think. Well, the

688
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: great country writers are the great storytellers. There's storytellers, and

689
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,760
Speaker 1: that's what it is. And I think being here it's different.

690
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: They start with a melody here and a beat, and

691
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: then in Nashville it's always about the story. So it's

692
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: cool coming here have both. And I think they always

693
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: used to tell me like, you think too much, You

694
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 1: think too much, and it was because I was always

695
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: thinking about story. I think that's ingrained in me from Nashville.

696
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: So what has been the most challenging part of coming

697
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: to LA for you? I switched my I switched my

698
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,720
Speaker 1: entire trajectory. I wanted to be an artist my entire life,

699
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: and like was doing that and then started realizing when

700
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: I came here. I met this manager and he was

701
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: so great, and he set me up with his team

702
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,439
Speaker 1: of writers and was like, just see how you do.

703
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: And so I came and I started really liking pop music.

704
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 1: So I switched over to pop. And then I realized,

705
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: like he sat me down one day and was like,

706
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: do you really want to be on tour for three

707
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 1: hundred days a year? And I was like nope, Like

708
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: do you like all of these things? I think he

709
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: said that. And then when I was in Nashville, they

710
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: kept telling me that I kept writing different styles of

711
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: music and they'd be like, why are you writing urban?

712
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: Why aren't you writing country? And then I'd write like

713
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 1: a pop thing and they'd be like, what, just pick something,

714
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: pick pick, And I could never pick and that was

715
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: like my biggest weakness. They're like, you're never going to

716
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 1: be anything if you don't pick. And when I got here,

717
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 1: that became my biggest strength, writing for TV and film,

718
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: and so I switched my entire life to being an

719
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 1: artist into writing for TV and film and advertising and

720
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: like that whole world. But I don't know anyone in

721
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,959
Speaker 1: that world, so I had I've been just navigating my way,

722
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: meeting people and meeting writers who write in that vein.

723
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: But you be really lucky. I mean you got it.

724
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 1: I mean you got a song England in the set

725
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: it up? Right? You have a song? Nah, then you

726
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: have two more songs coming out right. Yeah, I've been

727
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: really fortunate, and I have luckily made great friends in

728
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: the film supervision world that have been so good to me.

729
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: And I just had a Wendy's commercial come out, which

730
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: is so fun. Dave's like double or something five dollar

731
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: double and you wait, so hold on, this is interesting.

732
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: You wrote what part of the just a jingle? It's

733
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 1: not a jingle, so I basically write pop music and

734
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: then they'll license it. Okay, So you wrote something for

735
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: Wendy's and someone performed it or did you perform it?

736
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: And so you're on when the Wendy's commercial. Yeah, that's awesome. Oh,

737
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: this is something that I love. You put everybody in

738
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: the movies, so like they're always in the movies that

739
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: you're in. Yes, how do you have you ever been?

740
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: Has there been any movie that they're not in? I've

741
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: sort of worked my way up to putting them in

742
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 1: every movie, and now they're sort of expectation that they're

743
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: in the movies. Who though like my mom, my dad,

744
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 1: Leslie's I'm usually not in them? Are you not in

745
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: most one? Laura? I mean mom and dad are like

746
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: mom and dad. I guess they're mostly in them in

747
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: every single wims A Superstar? How do you do that? Though?

748
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: I mean you just sort of you just sort of

749
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: sneaking into exception. Yeah, it's yeah. But now I've gotten

750
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 1: to the point where I can sort of come up

751
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: with like a gimmick, Like I'll read the script and

752
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: be like, all right, there's a crowd scene. They're not

753
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: going to be totally isolated. I will put them as

754
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: like I'll pitch a funny gimmick to the director or whatever.

755
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: I'll be like, hey, what about this funny gimmick, And

756
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: like that I can do where they're not going to talk,

757
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 1: so they have to be like sag. My Mom's seconically sag,

758
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: but like you're so it's dead right anyway, they're there

759
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: where they're not talking so they don't have to pay them, right,

760
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: but enough where they have like a fun gimmick where

761
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: they're featured and stuff. So when Top Gun, we're like Tom, listen, Okay,

762
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: I got a pitch, Mom will be like a meg.

763
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 1: She's dressed, she's in the plane. That's actually really she's

764
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 1: just like a rogue state pilot. It's like the volleyball scene. Yeah,

765
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: but there is a volleyball scene. We won't talk about that.

766
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: Tell me, I'm assuming, of course, I'm assuming in Top

767
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: Gun too, there has to be. Of course there's a

768
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: volleyball scene. And you know how fucking oiled up this

769
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: dude probably got, you know how happy he was to

770
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: be that oiled up? Oh my god. Here's what I

771
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 1: like to say. I have a feeling that Tom Cruise

772
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: is probably was for like your number one pretty much.

773
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: That is great. Yeah, And this is like, I mean,

774
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: if if Glenn was to do something that was like

775
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: a dream come true, it is to work with Tom.

776
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 1: This is in Top Gun. Leslie showed me an Instagram

777
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 1: post the other day where I literally on my Instagram

778
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 1: was one of my first posts. It was the day

779
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: Top Gun came out and I literally wished Maverick a

780
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: happy birthday on my Instagram, Like this is crazy, this

781
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: is full circle. Wait how old were you when Instagram

782
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: came out? I mean, how old were you when you

783
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: did this? Was a lady? Wait no, no, this was

784
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: like Maverick's like birthday or something. And I know, but

785
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 1: how old were three years ago? Oh? This is like

786
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: grown probably probably too old to be doing this ship

787
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: but yeah, that's a pretty childish thing you did as

788
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: a grown man. But what's Maverick's birthday? Was A don't

789
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: like it was how do you know what it is?

790
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: He just said, May that's itself. Is it's birthday or

791
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 1: mav actual, it's it's the day, it's the day. I

792
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: think it's the day it came out, right, the release date.

793
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 1: I remember the post that you There was one post

794
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,760
Speaker 1: that Wyatt and I were so excited for you because

795
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: we were like, he's so happy right now, and it

796
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: was with the aviators on. It was the top Gun

797
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: full on post you had the yes, well, I was

798
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: so get this. I was so excited about that and

799
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,760
Speaker 1: I got immediately in trouble for that was like first,

800
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: like minutes after getting this movie, Oh my god, I

801
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: post because I'm wanted to be in this movie my

802
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 1: entire life. I went and research this. I went down

803
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: to Miramar, I went down to North Island. I went

804
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 1: to Edwards Air Force Base. I was around planes. I

805
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 1: was learning everything, so that when I walked in there

806
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: with Tom and Jerry and Joe, I knew everything there

807
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: was to know about naval aviation. So I had a

808
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: picture with an F thirty five two months before I

809
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: even auditioned that I was with all these guys talking

810
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 1: about so I took I posted this picture of me

811
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: on my own research with this thirty five. I was

812
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: like so pumped and like literally the hey, Tom just

813
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: saw that and he's like really not happy. I was like, God,

814
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: this movie, Oh my god. I The weird thing is

815
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: is that I'm as like top Gun is maybe my

816
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: favorite movie. Like to me, top Gun was where I

817
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: learned everything that I know, Like I wanted to be.

818
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: I wanted to be like Kelly McGillis and she was sexy,

819
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: and then that whole sex scene. I was like, oh

820
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 1: my god, that was where I learned, learned so much

821
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: with the tongue. Yes, yeah, that was crazy my first crush.

822
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 1: So I understand. So you have a man crush on

823
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 1: Tom Cruise. I mean this is Tom's also like the

824
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: dude that number one has sort of lasted longer than

825
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: anybody like because he's just like fearless and cool and whatever.

826
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: It also makes his own stuff and develops it and

827
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: it's like the nicest nice to people. He's got Like

828
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 1: this workout trailer like before he set, the guy has

829
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: done all the pain cave and he literally has all

830
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: these like modern things in there where he's defying. What

831
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 1: does Tom Cruise smell like? But for real, like, I

832
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: mean what did he say? From beyond? That's what you

833
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: have When you have two sisters, you can reference things

834
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: like Maria. But wait a minute, for real though, because

835
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: had been closed to Hawaiian. That's a Hawaiian Is it

836
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: a Hawaiian smell? Yeah, that's like Hawaiian full disclosure. You've

837
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: been like you've been close to him and like he's

838
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: your idol? Can I just talk about something really quickly? Yeah,

839
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 1: when you grow up with like brothers and sisters, and

840
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: there's some smells that smell really good, but because they

841
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: always now follow a bad bathroom smell, they're rooined for you. Yes,

842
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: Like I hate the smell of vanilla candles. Yeah it

843
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: smells like pooped right, because you associated I always buy

844
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: you vanilla candles. Yeah, you know what I mean. Now

845
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: I don't because I'm the girl lighting the candle in

846
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 1: the ship smelling bathroom. Because you guys are shutting up

847
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: the place. I'm just saying no, there's no to me.

848
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 1: The vanilla is like a savior. Yeah, I'm gonna agree

849
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: with that. You know what I mean. You never walk

850
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,120
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, do dash I used it last night. It

852
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:15,960
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853
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,000
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855
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Speaker 1: took flight was kind of like where I was going

856
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: with it. But my brain just my brain sometimes doesn't

857
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:32,240
Speaker 1: move fast enough when I'm doing my freestyling. DoorDash Oliver,

858
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859
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860
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862
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863
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864
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:58,080
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865
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867
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868
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869
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:15,600
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871
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873
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878
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879
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890
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891
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: who's the most like dad? Who's the most like mom?

892
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: It's a great question. I literally think we have. I

893
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: think my temperament is like dad. But also I don't know.

894
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,919
Speaker 1: I don't have to answer this question. Yeah, I found

895
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 1: that even growing up. Really I want to be a Powell. Yeah,

896
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: you guys. But again, this is the funny part, is

897
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 1: that we all should go down to Texas and get

898
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: rowdy because our families are so like the things that matter,

899
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: those like foundational pillars that make a great family function

900
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: like y'all's is very similar to what makes ours function.

901
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: We do sounds like we're like different on certain subjects.

902
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: We we both we all fart uh we we speak.

903
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: We covered up with plumeris sounds like you guys covered

904
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 1: up with vanilla. I am surprised Glenn is as funny

905
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,879
Speaker 1: as he is based on the fact that you've had

906
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: such a great childhood, because like most people who are

907
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:32,959
Speaker 1: funny have kind of fucked up childhood. I'll say this, though,

908
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:38,439
Speaker 1: the entire family is gives each other such ship that

909
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: you you have to have really thick skin, right, You're

910
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: actually used to have yeh, problems with it as a

911
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: kid because you're very You're very sensitive. And whenever, like

912
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: the cousins start giving each other ship, it is it

913
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: is ruthless to the point where they're they're they're poking

914
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: to problem daily, Like if you don't have thick skin,

915
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: you're just gonna cry. All well, we would do a

916
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: talent show after dinner, Like at the ranch, there's a

917
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 1: there's a stage after dinner, everybody would go do a

918
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: talent show. She would like sing, I would like play

919
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: fart noises on my armpit or something, because I have

920
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: a real talent. What you do is you would have

921
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 1: to sort of defend yourself in front of the court,

922
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: so to speak. And like make people laugh even though

923
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: your talent's kind of like lame or whatever. Like you

924
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: sort of well that's where the performing came from. You

925
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: were like almost forced to do it, and it was

926
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: it was sort of like it sounds like amazing for

927
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: it was like it was like the Gong Show. Would

928
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: your parents with the with the with the crowdy brutally on,

929
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: It's like, ah, brutally like people would cry and and

930
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: people get so heated to the I'm gonna do this

931
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: sort of stunt or this sort of trick and like

932
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: they would do something like try to do a backflip

933
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: off the top of the rafter and like land on

934
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 1: their neck. We'd all go to the hospital like they

935
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: were every year, every really every year. So we always

936
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: had a family football game too, and somebody broke a

937
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 1: bone every single year. Family football game. Sounds great, You

938
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,479
Speaker 1: guys were all out football. Huh oh. We don't mess

939
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: around it comes to football. So Oliver and I used

940
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:17,879
Speaker 1: to do productions every Christmas. Production Does that mean we

941
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 1: would put a little like story play together when we

942
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: were kids. We would play it out in front of

943
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 1: the whole family and Kurt would then be everyone would

944
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: clap like yay, and then Kurt would go, I don't

945
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: understand what this, like what happened? And we could be

946
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: like five years old, yeah, and we go you know,

947
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,720
Speaker 1: what do you mean, paup, And he'd be like there's

948
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: no plot, guys, like I don't know, like who's who?

949
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 1: What's the plot? What just happened? And we would all

950
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 1: sit there like deer in it head, like like all

951
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 1: of I told you we should have done, like no,

952
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:07,399
Speaker 1: that's not yeah. Then he asked us to go back

953
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: upstairs and look at the story and talk about like

954
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: what it was that we really wanted to get across,

955
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: like what and come back and perform it again. That's incredible.

956
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 1: It's like the Sun Dance lap. We were so excited,

957
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: like oh my god, and we were like we did

958
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 1: and then it was like, no, we're good enough kids.

959
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 1: We're like, we don't want to rework the scene. I

960
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: didn't see truth. That's so because that's that's actually I

961
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 1: was thinking about that with you guys. You guys have

962
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 1: amazing resources of people that have done it before and

963
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 1: probably would have a higher bar than our family was

964
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 1: just sort of clapping. There was one time where we

965
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: had like this big party at the house and was

966
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: like all of my family's friends and Leslie was in

967
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: Annie at the time. And Leslie, you know, was just

968
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: so good at singing that song Tomorrow at the time,

969
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: and she just crushed it and so and my parents

970
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 1: were so proud so that they would make her sing

971
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: it everywhere. And I told Leslie, I said, in the

972
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 1: middle of the song, what you need to do is

973
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 1: just go prace Lucifer right so right when you're about

974
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: to hit the high fel like I didn't know. I

975
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: didn't know that bad. I didn't know anything. And I

976
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: was like, okay, sure you did it. I did it.

977
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 1: I was liked and I was like lud laughing, so

978
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: so weird, like the joke was only for me, like

979
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 1: no one else got one thought. I was like the devil. Oh.

980
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 1: Annie was my favorite too. My mom used to do

981
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 1: the same thing. Well, but it sounds like your parents

982
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 1: actually like wanted you to perform. We're a lot of

983
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: I think parents in this business pushed their kids away

984
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: from that. Do you find that they were fine? You know, no,

985
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: they were fine. They were fine, except unless we were

986
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 1: They wanted us to be kids. I mean, that was

987
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: really important like a pressure one way or the other.

988
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 1: For them, it was like you will know whatever, you

989
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: will do what you want to do. As long as

990
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: you do at one hundred and fifty percent and you're

991
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: committed and you love it, that's what we'll support you in.

992
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: And we I'm in movies, yeah, Ollie would. Olie was

993
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 1: like the creator, yeah, cameras, filters. I mean every weekend

994
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: making movies. And everything was gore. Everything was horror, everything

995
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,280
Speaker 1: was comedy horror. I mean that's like was our genre.

996
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: But I think I think let's bring it back to

997
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: like growing up that when you know, well, I guess

998
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 1: what were you guys doing when you were growing up?

999
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 1: You're playing, you were doing the same stuff. I littlely

1000
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 1: had a camera with me at all times. On family vacations.

1001
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 1: I would actually one of my favorite things was like

1002
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: we usually you'd film like a movie or something like

1003
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: we're at a beach. I'd film like boc O bay

1004
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: Watch and be like some like thriller about your get

1005
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 1: eaten by a shark jump in the water, and I'd

1006
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:02,879
Speaker 1: be like Terri Botom like, oh, but the same kind

1007
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: of thing. There was my favorite piece of footage that

1008
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: we have as a family is when we were we

1009
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 1: were in We're in England and we're staying with a

1010
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:15,879
Speaker 1: family outside of London and they had this real kind

1011
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 1: of emo kid was ten years old and we have

1012
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: love when like different kids from weird families enter the

1013
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 1: equation of like the strong unit. This was this guy.

1014
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: This guy had no like very sweet family. This kid

1015
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 1: was like the wild card. And my dad being my

1016
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 1: dad being like, hey, more, more, the merrier we have.

1017
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 1: We have a five five people in our family. And

1018
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: he goes, would you want to come to London with us?

1019
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: He goes, yeah, okay, and we're like, we have no

1020
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 1: room for this, okay. So we put my little sister

1021
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:48,760
Speaker 1: in the trunk right, and her head is sticking outside

1022
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 1: the little the little drop down thing like in the

1023
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 1: middle of it. So Leslie's head is out the middle

1024
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: and basically the other guy's like sitting here, my sister's

1025
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 1: here being like, what's happen. So we're driving down the

1026
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,359
Speaker 1: road and I'm interviewing my dad because he's in the

1027
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 1: right seat, not the left, and I'm like, hey, dad,

1028
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 1: has the vacation going so far? He's like it's all good,

1029
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 1: and he's like he's like we're having a great and

1030
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 1: you turn and you literally see inframe a rain drover

1031
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: like right in front of our car. He gets swerved

1032
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: on accident the other way, and all of a sudden

1033
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: he turns back. He goes, oh my gosh, and turns it.

1034
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: Everyone in the car screamed. But because the way he turned,

1035
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 1: my camera goes like this, and all you see for

1036
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 1: the entire like next thirty seconds is my little sister's

1037
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: disembodied head just because she has no idea what's going on.

1038
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: As we go into a field. Oh, you actually go

1039
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: into like literally ramped it into. It's the screaming and

1040
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: then I'm screaming because I can't anything, and like we

1041
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: get in this field and then this kid, this kid

1042
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: thinks he's gonna die. He hasn't said a word. He's

1043
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: like terrified of everything happening. And then we get out

1044
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: of the car. At the very end of my dad

1045
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 1: being like the funny guy he is, he's like, so

1046
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: it's standard to tip the driver when you know, after

1047
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: like ride, and the kid, after not saying a word

1048
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 1: for the entire like day, he goes, you gotta beginning me.

1049
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm not gonna dip your almost killed all

1050
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: of us. He was like, oh my god, losing his mind.

1051
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: I loved it. And he's like your daughters and your dad.

1052
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 1: Well wait, so you would film. You were constantly filming.

1053
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: It was where you got so you always wanted to

1054
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 1: do what I did, which was like you'd be in

1055
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: anything and do whatever you wanted. And the older older

1056
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 1: sister was she involved or she's like whatever, she did

1057
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 1: her own thing. She was in like a few of them,

1058
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: I think what movies, Yeah, but I don't think she

1059
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 1: did most of them. Yeah, Oh you mean like family movies. Yeah, yeah,

1060
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 1: not like the ones like not the ones like we

1061
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: filmed secrets. Were always drawn to writing, creating you music

1062
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 1: and you and when you have written now a couple

1063
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 1: of movies, So who's your writing? So my writing partners,

1064
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 1: guy named john O, Matt and Johano and I'm both

1065
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 1: snuck into the Golden Globes. Actually, when Cord was on Glee,

1066
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: it was like second or third season of and I

1067
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 1: was just his roommate, and so he just snuck his

1068
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: ticket back to me. Johno was the assistant for somebody

1069
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 1: on Glee and put his name into the system to

1070
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 1: get into this party, and so we both were like

1071
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: the only guys that were like not important and definitely

1072
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 1: not on the show. It had nothing to do with

1073
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: the show. And we just started talking to each other

1074
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 1: at the at the bar and he said he was

1075
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: a writer, and he was like, oh, I wrote a

1076
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: screenplay about the World's for a submarine. I was like, oh,

1077
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: the Hunley. He's like, how would do you know that?

1078
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 1: And I was like I watched the documentary about it.

1079
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: And we just started talking. I give him notes on

1080
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 1: some stuff and this one screenplay that he started writing,

1081
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 1: I give him notes and he's like, would you just

1082
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 1: want to write this with me? And now we just

1083
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: have sort of merged our creative brains and now we

1084
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: have a real fast system. What is your ultimate goal

1085
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 1: as a actor? Creator, director? Like, where do you see

1086
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 1: yourself in fifteen years from now? If you could accomplish

1087
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 1: everything you want to accomplish and physically taken over the

1088
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 1: mission impossible for that's, by the way, it's so funny.

1089
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 1: It's so funny because somebody who made that joke on

1090
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: Top Top gun like talking to Tom and they're like, oh, man,

1091
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 1: like maybe one of these guys is going to take

1092
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 1: over the Mission franchise. He's like, no, no, Like literally,

1093
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 1: I can't think of like a worse job than taking

1094
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 1: over Mission. Impossible, trying to like one up stunts, right,

1095
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: I'm hearing Chris McCrory, who's the director of Mission, is

1096
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 1: on set and he and Tom are constantly talking about

1097
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 1: the next stunts, the next set pieces, and I can't

1098
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 1: think of a more I mean, we're flying real f

1099
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 1: eighteens to this movie and going the speed of sound

1100
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 1: fifty feet of the ground. Yeah, that's just that's like

1101
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 1: literally what they're brainstorming, right is what is the craziest thing.

1102
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: And it's like I can't imagine that sort of pressure,

1103
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 1: Like the next movie I already get like butterflies be

1104
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: like what's gonna happen? Scares me? It scares me, But

1105
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 1: you know, I think I think the the thing I'm

1106
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 1: excited about is that I feel like Leslie and my

1107
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 1: worlds are sort of starting to collide, collide and merge

1108
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 1: where I'm you know, I'm now finally getting to the

1109
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,479
Speaker 1: point where I can like I'm working with the people

1110
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 1: I've always wanted to work with, and like people want

1111
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 1: to develop with me and and with her, stuff like

1112
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 1: her stuff is cooking, and like I always want to

1113
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 1: do like a musical, Like I'm like we grew up

1114
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: on musicals and things like that, and like kind of

1115
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 1: converging those two worlds. Actually, we should totally do that

1116
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 1: the Wendy's musical Double Sack, Double Sack. It's called we

1117
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 1: should just do a musical short and it's just about

1118
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 1: an ordering experience at Wendy's. So your guys's worlds are

1119
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 1: colliding and you feel like now you're actually getting an

1120
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 1: opportunity to work with your sister. Well because independently, like

1121
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 1: the set it up, the way that happened was like

1122
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 1: not me, like she independently, Like I obviously was like

1123
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 1: hoping it happened, but like that thing happened independently of me,

1124
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 1: and like the people that she's connecting with, it's all

1125
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 1: they're they're part of my world. But I don't know

1126
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 1: music supervisors, Like that's not what I do. And I'm

1127
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 1: just seeing like her ability to create songs out of

1128
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 1: literally nothing and to just go, I have a concept,

1129
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 1: I'll write a song about it, and the way people

1130
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 1: respond to it. These people are getting paid millions of

1131
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 1: dollars for these things and the people that I'm developing

1132
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 1: certain projects with. That's one of the most complicated parts

1133
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 1: of the equation that are really tough to fear out music. Yeah,

1134
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 1: so I've noticed this a lot. You know, you do

1135
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 1: end up working with your sibling. It's like you know

1136
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 1: them better than anybody. If you really believe in your

1137
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 1: sibling and what they can do, especially if you're a creative,

1138
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 1: you want to work with each other. You know, nice

1139
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 1: must be nice. I think I think with that, you

1140
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 1: do know each other so well and you know how

1141
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 1: each other's brains work, which for us, like anytime we

1142
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 1: get a chance, we always are like ping ponging ideas

1143
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 1: off of each other totally, and so like to be

1144
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 1: able to do that in a creative way, like in

1145
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 1: an actual film, not just like a song or something. Yeah,

1146
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 1: it would be so cool. Yeah, I think that's our dream,

1147
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 1: is like just to work together and like have a

1148
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 1: company where I run music, he runs the production. My

1149
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 1: brothers do whatever they can to get away from doing that. Well,

1150
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 1: because I sit in a room and I ping waiting

1151
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 1: for a pong bad company. I'm just pinging, ping, ping ping.

1152
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 1: It's not true. It's not true. Let's do some of

1153
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 1: these rapids who broke the rules more obviously you did.

1154
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 1: I broke the rules. I just didn't break him as

1155
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 1: much as Glenn and Lauren. Mom also caught Glenn sneaking

1156
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 1: out one time, and he had literally had this entire plan.

1157
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 1: He like opened the garage, put a bike like underneath,

1158
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 1: and our driveways like this. My mom knows everything. This

1159
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 1: like steep, yeah, yeah, step just an awkward risk. I

1160
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 1: forgot that you can't see and it was super steep,

1161
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 1: and like Glenn was halfway on the drive and my

1162
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 1: mom just opens up her window and it's like Glenn,

1163
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 1: She's like, where do you think you're going? And he

1164
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 1: was like back in the house. And then she didn't

1165
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 1: come down. She didn't like scold him. She just like

1166
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 1: he knew, don't she's terrified. Don't mess with her her kids. Yeah,

1167
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 1: she knew everything. Like do you hide things from if

1168
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 1: your parents were like Glenn, have you done ecstasy? Like

1169
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 1: would you say to your parents like yeah, I mean

1170
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 1: I like, actually, this is a good segment where I

1171
01:04:56,560 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 1: play Glenn's I play your guys, dad and your mom

1172
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 1: and we're grilling them on the tough questions. Oh right,

1173
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 1: and then you would answer them? How answer them? Do

1174
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 1: you make it just like a little little softer and

1175
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 1: more earring hearing? Yeah? Lord like more Ronald Reagany, did

1176
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 1: you are you? I would, I would totally tell my

1177
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 1: dad stuff like that. You absolutely when it comes to

1178
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 1: those sort of things. I don't think our parents are

1179
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 1: very cool and chill when it comes to those sort

1180
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 1: of things. You feel like they've actually, in our entire lives,

1181
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 1: have fostered this like thing of just be honest. Like

1182
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 1: they gave us freedom when we were younger, but they

1183
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 1: were like, if you get in trouble, it's going to

1184
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 1: be your fault. We're not bailing out. You're an adult.

1185
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 1: Do you do you like make your decision sound really similar?

1186
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 1: It's kind of crazy. Who calls the other more? You

1187
01:05:56,200 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 1: call me more? Yeah? Uh? In the morning, it's usually

1188
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 1: about song ideas. Uh, I call you about everything. Do

1189
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 1: you talk to him? You guys talk every day multiple times?

1190
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 1: Do we talk every day? No? No? Across? Who gets

1191
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 1: the last word in during an argument? I mean it

1192
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 1: sounds like you don't have an argue, not that much really,

1193
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 1: but who would get the last word? Something's weird. Something's

1194
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 1: gotta be Lauren Lauren would get the last word Lauren.

1195
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 1: For of Lauren is an amazing arguer. Oh, she's a lawyer,

1196
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 1: so it's like she's she can dismantle you and make

1197
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 1: it hurt. Out of the three of you, who teams

1198
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 1: up more? I would probably say it was the two

1199
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 1: of us, you guys. Yeah, Lauren's a team of her own.

1200
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 1: But that shifted because once upon a time it was

1201
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 1: and you and Lauren. Yeah, Lauren, Lauren likes In my opinion,

1202
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 1: I think she likes being on her own. She's independent.

1203
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 1: She could take on anyone's Yeah, do you love Leslie

1204
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 1: more than Lauren? No? I love you do. What would

1205
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 1: Glenn choose? Cold weather or warm weather? Warm weather? Warm

1206
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 1: dog or cats dog? Dog? Salty or sweet salty? No,

1207
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 1: she's guessing for you. Oh you're guessing for me? Correct? Yeah,

1208
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 1: so far she's like four four beach your mountains beach correct?

1209
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 1: Beetles or stones? Stones, beetles, beetles? Oh, burgers are dogs? Dogs? Correct?

1210
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 1: Bowling or miniature golf? Miniature golf correct? Roller skaters segway

1211
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 1: roller skate seg What do you think I could would be?

1212
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 1: It's a whole common We had actually dancing before we

1213
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 1: did an interpretive dance on Segwe have an off roading

1214
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 1: segue at the lake house headphones or boombox headphones if

1215
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 1: it's on a plane headphones anywhere else, probably boombox. That's

1216
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:26,760
Speaker 1: that's accurate. Yeah, you know what he drives. I read

1217
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 1: an article about it, Jaguar jag. That's right, right. I

1218
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 1: read an article in my research for Glenn, and it

1219
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:38,759
Speaker 1: was Glenn the movie star to be pulls up messy

1220
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:43,800
Speaker 1: hair aviators that were painted onto his eyes. Oh my gosh,

1221
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 1: vente Starbucks lingering in his cup holder. Jesus lonely forks

1222
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:56,559
Speaker 1: brother lonely for That's what he said. What Glenn's go

1223
01:08:56,640 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 1: to karaoke song? Probably like Tim McGraw or something that's good.

1224
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 1: I usually choose like a Disney song. Okay, dance move,

1225
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 1: go to dance move. Oh god, he's got so many

1226
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 1: you can't even I don't know. Okay, it's a hard one.

1227
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:14,679
Speaker 1: It's the one. It's the one that Mom the mom

1228
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 1: for sure, Mom's signature dance move. Yeah, yeah, you're right.

1229
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 1: Can we get like Mom doing this and put it

1230
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 1: on our excellent Okay, if he could quote one movie

1231
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:33,599
Speaker 1: from start to finish, what would it be top gun hilarious, true,

1232
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 1: or like blazing childhood crush. Oh, Haley Conrad. Oh, I mean,

1233
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 1: but now let's German a celebrity crush. Yeah? Very I

1234
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 1: actually have no idea what that is. What is it?

1235
01:09:54,520 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 1: Jennifer love Hewitt? Okay, name a TV or show that

1236
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 1: he loved so much that would maybe be embarrassing. We

1237
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 1: loved Seventh Heaven. Oh yeah, and now Jeff Stultz is

1238
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:12,679
Speaker 1: one of our good friends and was like the man.

1239
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 1: I was like, that guy's so cute. And then when

1240
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 1: I finally realized it, after probably knowing him for a year,

1241
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 1: I was like, wait a second, you were on Seventh Heaven. Yeah,

1242
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 1: we loved that. Now you got to do this for

1243
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 1: your sister. Cold or warm weather warm? Yeah? Dog or

1244
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:36,440
Speaker 1: cats dog? Yeah? Salt your sweet sweet? Yeah. Beach or mountains?

1245
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 1: Beach actually mountains mountains. You don't like the beach. I

1246
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 1: like the beach. I just would rather be active on

1247
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:51,839
Speaker 1: the mountain. Beatles are stones, stones, Burgers are hot dogs? Yeah, burgers, yeah.

1248
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 1: Bowling or minister golf golf? Yeah, roller skates or segue.

1249
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 1: I mean that's kind of I guess. I mean, I

1250
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:00,719
Speaker 1: assume segues but this rollerblading thing really me for a loop.

1251
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 1: We have so kate the first roller skating go to

1252
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 1: karaoke song for your sister, see you definitely not Sea.

1253
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:19,560
Speaker 1: What's the one, Missy Elliott? Yeah? I was taking like

1254
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 1: jellom the boys say hello because I know no Oh

1255
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 1: my god? Yeah, yeah, she knows everywhere to that song. Glenn,

1256
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:29,719
Speaker 1: if your sister could quote one movie from start to finish,

1257
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 1: what would it be? Don't be weird about this, but

1258
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:34,719
Speaker 1: maybe how to Lose a Gat. I was just about

1259
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 1: to say how to Lose you. Yes, I was gonna

1260
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 1: say that. I love it. That's fun. Good guy celebrity crush,

1261
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 1: childhood celebrity crush, because I was like kind of in

1262
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 1: the Jonathan Taylor Thomas like era. You kind of watched

1263
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 1: all those shows with us, But I don't remember who

1264
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:57,240
Speaker 1: your crush was? Who was your crush? I mean I

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Speaker 1: always thought Ashton Kutcher was cute, and then I also

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Speaker 1: thought Ryan Reynolds was like those are kind of like

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Speaker 1: modern ones. So you watched that seventy show. He also

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Speaker 1: had some fun movies if you could now we we

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Speaker 1: we asked this to everyone, but it morphs itself. But

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Speaker 1: if you could change one thing about the other right

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Speaker 1: giving them something that you wish they had that would

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Speaker 1: elevate something, or if you could shift something in their life,

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Speaker 1: what would it be? I'm thinking, I'm thinking for you,

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Speaker 1: I truly, I truly wish that I could be a

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Speaker 1: better conduit to good men in your life, because I

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Speaker 1: actually do find that good guys probably do come around,

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Speaker 1: and I do think I am intimidating on that front

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Speaker 1: for a lot of guys that do come around because

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Speaker 1: I am a strong like and I'm not trying to

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Speaker 1: scare anybody. I'm just a terrifying individual. Obviously, you guys,

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Speaker 1: you guys feel it wing around me, the fear that

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Speaker 1: I instilled in Pa, I do. No. I just think

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Speaker 1: that guys like obviously like I find that if the

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Speaker 1: wrong guys have a confidence to go around her, but

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Speaker 1: the right guys probably don't have the balls. Does that

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Speaker 1: make sense? I what I would change about you is

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Speaker 1: I just wish you'd introduce me to the right guys.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that's good if you can make that. I'm

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Speaker 1: with Yeah, I also have a high bar. There's nothing

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Speaker 1: never change the high bar, but like, get on it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So what what But what would be one thing you

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Speaker 1: would change other than him introducing you to Is there

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Speaker 1: anything was the anying about Glenn that like if you

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Speaker 1: were if you had this, you would elevates a good word.

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Speaker 1: It would elevate you. There's one there would be one thing.

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Speaker 1: But then I would also never want to take this

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Speaker 1: away because I think it makes it who he is

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Speaker 1: would be He's so trusting of every single He's like

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Speaker 1: he really genuinely is every single person has his best

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Speaker 1: interest at heart, and because he's a good person, and

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Speaker 1: I think that's gonna sometimes people don't and I don't

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Speaker 1: want ever want him to get screwed over, So like

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Speaker 1: that would be something like but then also that's what

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Speaker 1: makes you who you are, is like actually genuinely believing

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01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 1: people are good. It's like you don't want to take

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Speaker 1: that away, but you also is like like I wonder

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Speaker 1: if that's maybe a child. Have you been burned? Though? No,

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Speaker 1: I've definitely gotten to like business side of things. I've

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Speaker 1: definitely learned lessons the hard way with certain people, and

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Speaker 1: you do learn what you can trust and what you

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Speaker 1: can't trust. I don't, but I don't feel like those

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Speaker 1: are lessons that have I've had to like I don't

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Speaker 1: go shoot, I have to wear this like a metal

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Speaker 1: now or like like a weight. It happens, like you know,

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Speaker 1: not all people are good, and I find it's a

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Speaker 1: lot easier to be open to things than to be

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Speaker 1: scared of getting hurt on those things because then it's

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Speaker 1: but I find a lot of actors in general sort

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Speaker 1: of it's been something I've been like hyper aware of

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Speaker 1: as I find actors kind of walk around like not

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Speaker 1: trusting people and kind of being like a ware of

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Speaker 1: people and place to totally sucks, like it makes you

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Speaker 1: a shitty version of it. By this, I'm this. You

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Speaker 1: just look at things from are different perspectives, right, And

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Speaker 1: I could say the same thing about myself. I'm be

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Speaker 1: way too trusting and I but that's never that's like

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. It's a blessing and

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Speaker 1: a curse. If you use the good too much, it

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Speaker 1: becomes a weakness. I think, who is the favorite sibling?

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Speaker 1: Is there a golden child? Glenn's the golden child? Blenn

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01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 1: is the golden child? Lauren doesn't care. We've we figured

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Speaker 1: that out. Have you seen the movie The Golden Child?

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01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:35,400
Speaker 1: Dy Murphy? No, you should watch last movie ever. If

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Speaker 1: you guys could give someone advice, I think this is

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Speaker 1: interesting because you guys actually do have something that we do,

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01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 1: even though we joke around and we laugh about all

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01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 1: this stuff. But like our I don't know what I

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Speaker 1: would do without my brother. I mean literally, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's one of those relationships where he gives me more

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01:15:56,680 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 1: than he even feels that he does at times. I

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01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 1: know that for a fact that that's like everything to me.

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Speaker 1: What would be the one piece of advice you'd give

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01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 1: a sibling relationship that wasn't necessarily in a good place.

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01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 1: I'd actually say that family is the only thing that

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01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:19,840
Speaker 1: sticks with you through everything. Friends come and go, relationships

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01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 1: come and go. But like a brother, sister, or a

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01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 1: mom and daughter fathered or whatever, that's what you have

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Speaker 1: in life and that's what you fall back on, or

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Speaker 1: at least I do, And so if you can make

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01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 1: that relationship good or worthwhile, then you can always rely

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01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 1: on it. But that's also not true in different households.

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Speaker 1: So of course, but do you feel that the things

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Speaker 1: that you do in your life, do you feel that

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Speaker 1: you have your courage, say, to put yourself out there,

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01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:57,679
Speaker 1: to write songs to say certain things. It has something

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Speaker 1: to do with how safe and ground did and loved

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01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:05,760
Speaker 1: you feel from your family, you know what I mean? Yeah,

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01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:09,759
Speaker 1: I actually one hundred percent like I'm I think music

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Speaker 1: is the scariest thing. Like, no, I think you're nuts

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01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 1: to go into music. I think your nuts to go

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01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:17,799
Speaker 1: into film. I think. But I'm not scared of failure

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Speaker 1: because if if I fail, if something bad happens, whatever,

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Speaker 1: I have my family to go back to and nothing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not scared. Yeah. I always think there will be

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Speaker 1: people out there who are listening to this who have

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Speaker 1: a difficult time with their sibling and they try to

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Speaker 1: figure out how to reconcile it. But then there's this

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Speaker 1: longing that's always like, if only I could just connect

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Speaker 1: with that sibling. You know, they might not have been

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Speaker 1: able to connect with their parents, but to be able

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Speaker 1: to do that can completely change their entire life. So

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Speaker 1: what would be your piece of advice to someone who's

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Speaker 1: having a challenging time. I mean, I I find that

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Speaker 1: she's right in the fact that this town, for example,

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Speaker 1: I found that this town operates like a heat seeking

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01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:10,720
Speaker 1: missile a lot of times, where it just chases kind

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01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 1: of the flavor of the week, and you can read

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Speaker 1: into why you're not good enough, for why things aren't happening.

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Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, I talk to

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Speaker 1: my family every day pretty much every single memory of them,

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01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 1: and they offer different things and whether it's a crutch

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01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 1: or a laugh or just keep your mind off of things.

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Speaker 1: And like, for instance, even when I was going through

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01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:38,639
Speaker 1: I've gone through breakups and Leslie's the one who literally

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01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 1: talks me off of a ledge. You know, I'll get

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01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 1: my heart stopped on and she'll talk me through it.

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Speaker 1: She'll turn it into a song. That sort of arcatharsis

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01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 1: is like I'm so sorry about that. No, but like

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01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 1: that's like I'm sitting there going you know, as a

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Speaker 1: Southern guy, you're not like necessarily wanting to just like

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01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:59,760
Speaker 1: cry to your little sister about stuff. But really what

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01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 1: you do is you can open up and talk about

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Speaker 1: how you're feeling. And I'll write a bunch of stuff

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01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:04,560
Speaker 1: and I'll say, hey, please make a song of it,

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01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 1: because it's the shit hurts, you know, And but you

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01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:09,640
Speaker 1: will break things down for me and give me the

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Speaker 1: real and family is no politics, and they should be there.

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Speaker 1: Not every family has the luxury of that like, I

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Speaker 1: know my family, no matter what I do, they'll be there,

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01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 1: and so you don't have to sugarcoat things. You can

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01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 1: be hurt, you can be vulnerable, and you can be

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01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 1: raw to them because you know that's That's one thing

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Speaker 1: on this town that I do feel like I've brought

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01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 1: a lot of people into my inner circle and into

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01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:37,720
Speaker 1: my work life and personal life that are there for me.

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Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, you know that

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Speaker 1: one push comes to shove, the only people that are

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Speaker 1: truly there. If shit dries up, my family is gonna

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Speaker 1: be the only one that's there. And it's great. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you guys are so lucky. You're so lucky, and I'm

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01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:54,840
Speaker 1: very lucky. You guys have really seems to be just

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Speaker 1: a really stable honest I mean, you've got parents who

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01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 1: are still together. But when you start interviewing people and

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Speaker 1: most most of the world really has real challenges in

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01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:11,680
Speaker 1: their family of origin. And I actually think it's as

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Speaker 1: important as you know, talking to people who've had challenging

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Speaker 1: relationships in their life, familial relationships that actually talking with

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Speaker 1: you guys, what it's like to grow up with stability,

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01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 1: with a father who is really even who's able to

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01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 1: diffuse situations and you know, hit the neutral button to

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01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:41,559
Speaker 1: be able to have that as your foundation creates this

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01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:47,599
Speaker 1: like safe, beautiful feeling where you actually feel so loved

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day. I think everyone's striving

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01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 1: to create a family that can do what your parents did.

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01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:55,240
Speaker 1: So it's a real testament to your parents that you

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Speaker 1: guys can speak about them like this, that you're so

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01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 1: it's just so wonderful. And I think it'd be interesting

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01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 1: to talk to your parents about their childhood because you know,

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01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:15,280
Speaker 1: generationally things shift, and I bet they made some shifts

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01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 1: in their life to be able to raise the kind

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01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 1: of family that they did, And it probably would be

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01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 1: a great lesson to everyone that you know, you don't

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01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:29,120
Speaker 1: have to be your parents. You can raise your kids

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01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:31,680
Speaker 1: and your family exactly the way you want to. I

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01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 1: don't know, I want to like hug your parents. I

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01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:35,800
Speaker 1: want to hug them. I'm sure they want to hug

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Speaker 1: you too. We'll make the Texas threat happen for sure.

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Speaker 1: I know. I love you, guys. Thank you for coming me.

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Speaker 1: Love you guys, Thank you for having us. Sibling Revelry

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Speaker 1: is executive produced by Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson. Producer

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01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 1: is Alison Presnik. Music by Mark Hudson aka Uncle Mark

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Speaker 1: Ye No