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Speaker 1: Richard Sherman Podcast. My goodness, Mitchell, super Bowl. We got

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Rich It's not the finalists that you wanted.

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Speaker 1: I know that. Let's let's start with that game and

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Speaker 1: fill a beat down of the forty nine is of

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Speaker 1: the very fragile forty niners. I don't even know if

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Speaker 1: we what we call this game. I mean, talk to

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Speaker 1: me Rich, Well, what we're gonna call it is the rest.

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Speaker 1: You know we're gonna call the rest. This is the

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Speaker 1: ref super Bowl. The rest got involved, way too involved

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Speaker 1: in both games. In this first game, SF had eleven penalties,

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Speaker 1: Philly only had four, uh and crucial penalties. It's they

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Speaker 1: drive sustanding penalties. Uh. And the next game they had

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Speaker 1: drive sustaining penalties. It just it just wasn't the way

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Speaker 1: you want to playoff. Game called now the Eagles earned it.

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Speaker 1: The Eagles earned the win. Obviously, it's hard to get

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Speaker 1: a win in San Francisco if your third string quarterback

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Speaker 1: who has been seven and oh goes down, and then

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Speaker 1: your fourth string quarterback goes down, and then your third

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Speaker 1: string quarterback you can't throw anymore, has to come back in.

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Speaker 1: Then you're running back has to the ball. So it

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Speaker 1: was just a set of firs seen circumstances. But Philly

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Speaker 1: took advantage of it the way they have to. They

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Speaker 1: won the they won the championship, and they made it

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Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. Well, you gotta, you gotta, you know,

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Speaker 1: take your hat off to him. I think Philly's deserving,

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Speaker 1: you know, participant in the Super Bowl. But I will

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Speaker 1: say the true losers and today's viewing party were the fans. Rich.

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Speaker 1: I mean, first series Rock Party goes out, you know,

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Speaker 1: this game immediately changes, and what we thought the game

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Speaker 1: would be between two Juggernauts turns in between a journeyman

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Speaker 1: Josh Johnson. You know, I know he's new to the

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Speaker 1: system whatnot, but I mean he's not going to give

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Speaker 1: him too much of a fighting chance against the elite

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Speaker 1: in this league. And unfortunately, play after play, drive after

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Speaker 1: drive was just coming up empty. Rich. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: it's the game started with the first down that shouldn't

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Speaker 1: have been on the fourth and three incomplete past that

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Speaker 1: was obviously incomplete at the time. You could see it

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Speaker 1: by the reaction of the receiver when he got up.

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Speaker 1: Davante Smith got up panicking and like, hey, hurry up,

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Speaker 1: let's just hurry up. We're gonna play. And and clearly,

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Speaker 1: you know, in any other situation you at least call

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Speaker 1: at this. You know, it's for some reason we're acting

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Speaker 1: like time outs are invaluable, you know, they're oh my god,

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Speaker 1: out there. It's a really important part of the game.

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Speaker 1: Let's see what happened. I see why he's panicking. Let's

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Speaker 1: take another look at that. But they didn't and they

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Speaker 1: got You have a touchdown on that drive when it

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Speaker 1: would have been a turnover on downs. That's the seven

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Speaker 1: point swing right there. Then you have the really curious

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Speaker 1: play of of blocking Hassan Reddick with the tight end

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Speaker 1: I don't think you would block Nicholas john Bosa would

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Speaker 1: So that was one of those It was bad. It

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Speaker 1: You know, obviously the emotions of in the game, right,

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Speaker 1: It was penalty after penalty after penalty on the San

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Speaker 1: But I want to bring you you on the sideline,

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Speaker 1: I mean, they've done it all year long. You know,

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Speaker 1: didn't feel like a championship should Sure, well, Richard, what

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Speaker 1: a bad culmination thing. Like you said, it leaves a

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Speaker 1: There is big place, Leah. I know you gotta be

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Speaker 1: not not the type of game that you would expect

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Speaker 1: another game came down to the wire, big, big penalty

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Speaker 1: again weird. It felt like one sided in terms of penalties.

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Speaker 1: It should be like, hey man, this is an incredible play.

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Speaker 1: Hey man, this was an incredible play. This guy made

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Speaker 1: a heck of a play. But instead we're sitting here

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Speaker 1: talking about, hey, what was that call? Like, hey, what

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Speaker 1: happened there? And there were two miss holding calls on

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Speaker 1: that same play, so it's like, hey, like they held

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Speaker 1: two players and no call, And then of course you

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Speaker 1: make the call where Burrows gets pushed out of bounds.

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Speaker 1: But if you make the holding calls, then they negate

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Speaker 1: each other and you replay the downs. And you just

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Speaker 1: hate to see games decided like that, and you know

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Speaker 1: it doesn't feel as earned. I hate the way it happened.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of the way the league. Let

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Speaker 1: let this one go down. None of them refs, I

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Speaker 1: can't say none of them, but you know those refs

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Speaker 1: should not have a playoff game again, both both for

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Speaker 1: both games. Yeah, Rich, I mean again, I mean, just

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Speaker 1: watching this game from my own couch understanding you know

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Speaker 1: how much is on the line. I'm with you. You

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Speaker 1: could see numerous of those plays that you're referring to

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Speaker 1: holding or I mean just TICKI tack calls that couldn't

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Speaker 1: go both ways, but you're just gonna let them go.

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Speaker 1: Most importantly with the Mike Hilton p I call at

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Speaker 1: the end. You know, rapping rapping around thing was against

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Speaker 1: Baldos Scantling. You see that play every given Sunday in

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Speaker 1: every game, and it's not called. And even even the

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Speaker 1: commentators said, we we don't call that. You know, you

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Speaker 1: you look for a lot more aggressive motion and swinging

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Speaker 1: the body around than just having your right arm around

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Speaker 1: his hip. I mean, in those regular season calls, that's

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Speaker 1: gonna piste a lot of fans off. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: come on, I mean, it just doesn't make sense. And

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Speaker 1: I you know, I mean that the league is the league,

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Speaker 1: and it's gonna be a huge money maker and they're

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Speaker 1: gonna have a super Bowl, and but it just it

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Speaker 1: just taints the game. It taints the way you you

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Speaker 1: view it and consume it. Kansas City, I'm sure is happy.

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Speaker 1: Philly fans, I'm sure are happy. You know, their teams

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Speaker 1: are going on. They benefited from the way the games

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Speaker 1: were called, and that's cool. You know, nothing against those teams,

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Speaker 1: but these refs called a horrible game in two games.

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Speaker 1: And if you're a casual football fan, not a fan

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Speaker 1: of either team, then and you're being objective, you're like,

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Speaker 1: oh man, this is kind of it leaves a bad

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Speaker 1: taste yourmount. You know, I'm sure it doesn't change anything

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Speaker 1: for those guys, like you said, big Place leg gets

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Speaker 1: to a super Bowl, James Bradberry goes from Cut to

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Speaker 1: a super Bowl team. Uh then Don mckinsoe gets to

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Speaker 1: another super Bowl. Lynville Joseph gets to one. You know,

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Speaker 1: so it's it's great for a lot of guys who

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Speaker 1: have been working their butts off to get to a

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Speaker 1: super Bowl, and you're really excited for them. You just

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Speaker 1: hate for the refs to be such a big storyline,

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Speaker 1: and they were the storyline in both games. Obviously, it

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Speaker 1: would have been hard for San Francisco to win, even

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Speaker 1: in a perfectly called game with both quarterbacks going down.

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Speaker 1: But at least you wanted to be called clean, like

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Speaker 1: you wanted to be called fair. Are just hey? You

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Speaker 1: know in the playoffs you swallow your whistle and met

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Speaker 1: him play. You don't just blow your whistle on one

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Speaker 1: team and then the other team you swallow you whistle

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Speaker 1: because then that looks obvious. Richard, You've played in a

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Speaker 1: lot of NFL games you as a competitor, have you

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Speaker 1: ever known a play that you've been officiated from that

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Speaker 1: you should enough? Is that a wrong? That's a fucking

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Speaker 1: terrible question. Are hope I trying to ask this fucking question? Benefits? Man?

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Speaker 1: I want I want the word been officiated to be officiated.

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Speaker 1: Let's copyright itself, because that's what we get, a terrible

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Speaker 1: officiating call. Any team, any team that from official is

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Speaker 1: gonna be like, hey man, they would get being officiating over.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of bit officiating beneficiary of a bullshit.

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Speaker 1: The only one I could think of is the film

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Speaker 1: Mary We're Golden called it didn't catch it against Green

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Speaker 1: Bay and that was the replacement ref so you're like, well,

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Speaker 1: that's why. And then after that they brought the real

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Speaker 1: risks back, but these ones felt like replacement refs. You're like,

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Speaker 1: you're like some of those calls, You're like the Buffalo

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Speaker 1: wild Wings call in the to stop the game and

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Speaker 1: to get involved, because that didn't look like a passing

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Speaker 1: the fence that didn't look like I holding, and then

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Speaker 1: the place that looked like I holding, you're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: that's holding right there, and you're like, oh, you guys

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Speaker 1: aren't calling that right there in front of the quarterback

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Speaker 1: while he's he's swimming like, it's not gonna call that,

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Speaker 1: and it just it just Sully's I'm really I'm really unimpressed. Well, hey, Rich,

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Speaker 1: this is this is concluded at least our a f

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Speaker 1: C NFC Championship. We're gonna have a week to a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks. We're gonna have Pro Bowl here and

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Speaker 1: then we got Super Bowl after that, so we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have time to let this this weekend kind of subside

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Speaker 1: in the emotions of it, get removed. But that's all

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Speaker 1: first championship weekend. Appreciate you guys joining us. Sorry, you

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Speaker 1: guys have to watch that beneficiated game. Uh, it's unfortunate.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations to the Eagles and Kansas City Chiefs. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you next week. The volume