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Speaker 2: stay on topic with Frank Biemer, is that Frank Beemer

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Speaker 2: Be a pressure for to get It's almost unfair. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fascinating and didn't really play a true spring game.

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Speaker 2: It was a practice Spencer Sanders obviously, and Trench starter

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Speaker 1: Let's stay in the greatest state of Texas. Dan, you

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Speaker 1: Hey, if we're gonna talk about Sark, let's talk about Lane.

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Speaker 1: not the least of which is quarterback. Right. So, the

432
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Speaker 1: situation at Old Miss is that Matt Carrall, who'd been

433
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Speaker 1: there forever, who was very productive, who willed that team

434
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Speaker 1: to many, many victories, is going to be drafted into

435
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Speaker 1: the NFL in a matter of hours. So they've got

436
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Speaker 1: a situation now where they brought in Jackson Dart, USC

437
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Speaker 1: guy Jackson Dart without a place on that USC depth chart.

438
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Speaker 1: Given the fact that Cale Williams came over from Oklahoma,

439
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Speaker 1: Jackson Dart a lot of teams or after Jackson Dart,

440
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Speaker 1: he decides to go to Lane at Ole. Miss That

441
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Speaker 1: clearly and rightfully got a lot of the attention. Here's

442
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Speaker 1: what's interesting about that. First off, Jackson Dart did get reps,

443
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Speaker 1: but he got him with the second team. Okay, got

444
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Speaker 1: him with the second team. Luke Altmeyer played with the ones.

445
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Speaker 1: So make of that. Whatever you will spring doesn't necessarily

446
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,679
Speaker 1: equate to anything come fall right, But he was with

447
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Speaker 1: the twos. Secondly, to build on that point, Jackson Dart

448
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 1: did not look good. He didn't look good. He didn't

449
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,719
Speaker 1: look good. He threw two touchdowns, but he had two picks.

450
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,160
Speaker 1: He was eleven of thirty. There were a bunch of overthrows.

451
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 1: There are a lot of misses in there. Again, what is

452
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Speaker 1: that worth? I don't know. Can he improve? Yeah, he

453
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Speaker 1: can improve. We saw what he could do at USC.

454
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Speaker 1: I thought he was pretty good. Ran sixteen times for

455
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Speaker 1: sixty six yards, factor in sacks and all that. You

456
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Speaker 1: know how college is. But so kind of a mixed

457
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Speaker 1: bag for Jackson Dart. But it could have been because

458
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Speaker 1: he was with the twos. I don't know. It could

459
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Speaker 1: have been because the offensive line and depth up front

460
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 1: is a glaring question that's very blurry going.

461
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Speaker 2: Into this defense.

462
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we didn't get any answers there, but for sure

463
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Speaker 1: Jackson Dart left a lot to be desired. I still

464
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Speaker 1: think he will be the guy. I don't think it's

465
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Speaker 1: going to be Luke Altmeyer, but at least in this

466
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Speaker 1: limited sample size, it was Luke Altmeyer who looked the

467
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Speaker 1: better at quarterback. Actually, the big transfer from USC that

468
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Speaker 1: looked the best here was a guy by the name

469
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Speaker 1: of Michael Trigg Dan Yeah, yeah, tight end, tight end. Yeah.

470
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Speaker 1: And this is especially notable for ole Miss because they

471
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Speaker 1: only had two touchdowns at the tight end position all

472
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Speaker 1: last season down there in Oxford. So to have a

473
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Speaker 1: guy like a Trig come over from USC, he instantly

474
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Speaker 1: steps in seven catches, eighty nine yards, three touchdowns, a

475
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Speaker 1: two point convert. If they can get anywhere near that

476
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Speaker 1: level of production going up to you know, going into September,

477
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Speaker 1: that'd be a big deal. Yeah.

478
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Speaker 2: I mean, look, the Jackson dark question I don't think

479
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,199
Speaker 2: is a large one, but those type of numbers, and

480
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Speaker 2: I have not watched the game, I don't know the

481
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Speaker 2: context of the game.

482
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Speaker 1: But if he is the guy.

483
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Speaker 2: He will become the guy under Lane Kiffin. Like the

484
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Speaker 2: thing is, if he is the clear most talented dude

485
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Speaker 2: and had a bad day or had bad circumstances, or

486
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 2: it was a typhoon in Oxford, it was windy, whatever

487
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Speaker 2: that there was a windstorm, Lane Kiffin will get the

488
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Speaker 2: most out of his quarterback. Maybe Jackson Dart's not the guy.

489
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Speaker 2: Maybe for whatever reason, it's just not a fit. But

490
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Speaker 2: besides the numbers making me say huh huh, I'm reserving

491
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Speaker 2: the right suit to judge. I mean, he's been there

492
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Speaker 2: for that long at all, to have summer, to get

493
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Speaker 2: into rhythm with his receivers and to get them to

494
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 2: know that playbook transfer quarterbacks in the spring. You know,

495
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Speaker 2: I'm willing to say we can, we can sort of

496
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Speaker 2: take that a little bit less seriously. But if he

497
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Speaker 2: has a downfall camp and still gets the nod and

498
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Speaker 2: then has a downstart to the season, who's old Miss

499
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Speaker 2: start the season with?

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Speaker 1: They start it with somebody big. I believe Ole Miss

501
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Speaker 1: starts the season with the Troy Trojans, Dan Oh, the

502
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Speaker 1: Troy Georgers.

503
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Speaker 2: Do they have somebody else in the non conference portion

504
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Speaker 2: of the schedule or is it pretty light.

505
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Speaker 1: Georgia Tech fairly light.

506
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Speaker 2: Okay, so that's good. I think there's time. We'll see

507
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Speaker 2: what it has a lot of time. Hopefully it's a

508
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Speaker 2: good fit, and it's why it's it's your boy, Charlie

509
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Speaker 2: Weiss STUDI yep.

510
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Speaker 1: I think they'll be okay in the long run. I

511
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Speaker 1: won't go into painstaking detail about the rest of the team,

512
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 1: but Zach Evans, Ulysses Bentley, oh yeah, got limited work.

513
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Speaker 1: They're gonna get more work obviously as a season, huge

514
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 1: draws nearer and most of the new names showed out

515
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 1: on defense defense to your point, earlier transfers and otherwise

516
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 1: they were really the story here. Those guys were pretty good.

517
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, no, it's it's transfer. It's but two new coordinators, right,

518
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 2: Dj Dirkin Leeves for A and M and Charlie Weist

519
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 2: junior yeah places Jeff Leby, Oh no, yeah, so it'd

520
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 2: be great, all right.

521
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Speaker 1: Two other teams here as quickly as I can. Uva.

522
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Speaker 1: I don't have a whole lot to say about Uva,

523
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: but UVa's got a new coach. Brandon Vanables went to Oklahoma,

524
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 1: Tony Elliott went to Uva. There was a lot of

525
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: focus in the spring game. On the on the running game,

526
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: because if you want to call up the stats, I

527
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't encourage it. On UVa's rushing attack last year, something

528
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: like one hundred and fifteenth nationally, Yep, not very good.

529
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 2: It's just less story about with Brendan Armstrong.

530
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's less to worry about with Brendan Armstrong. Brendan

531
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Speaker 1: Armstrong coming back. Brendan Armstrong. One of those guys talked

532
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Speaker 1: a lot about the cultural fit guys are buying in

533
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 1: Tony Elliott, this guy from Clemson, he saw a thing

534
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 1: or two. Yep. Uva was really bad at running the

535
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Speaker 1: football last year.

536
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Speaker 2: So they were I mean, I'm saying that they're okay.

537
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 2: I think it was the defense that was a big issue.

538
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: In general. Running was not the strong suit for Uva. Okay.

539
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm for summer, I'm seeing success rate twenty

540
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 2: first nationally.

541
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Speaker 1: Okay. For the UVA rushing attack, well, they didn't feel

542
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 1: it was up to par because they focused a lot

543
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: on it, and Tony Elliott seemed to be trying to

544
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 1: suss out that position group is part of the spring game. Yep.

545
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Speaker 1: Tony Ellie didn't say much. He seemed reasonably pleased with

546
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: what he saw about as expected is what he what

547
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: he said. Take him at his word for that, m M.

548
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: And otherwise, you know, I think it decent enough turnout

549
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: for the game. Folks are excited about the new era.

550
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: It helps to have Brendan Armstrong.

551
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: Is is Keaton Thompson still there?

552
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: He's so fun? Yeah?

553
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 2: I think Keithon Thompson is still playing receiver Virginia and

554
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 2: he's really fun.

555
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: He's really fun. That's all.

556
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

557
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Speaker 1: Last, but certainly not least the Notre Dame fighting Irish.

558
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 2: Hmmm, not even teams?

559
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: Have you done?

560
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 2: Did I do more teams than you did? I do

561
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 2: fewer teams than you?

562
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: Is a team sport here? Whatever, Yeah, that's true. No,

563
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: Tyler Buckner in this game. Tyler Buckner twisted his ankle

564
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: going down the stairs. It was not a serious thing,

565
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: but uh he didn't play okay, which led to kind

566
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: of an interesting circumstance with Drew Pine coming in. Drew

567
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: Pine a bit undersized but in limited action last year

568
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: looked really good. Mm hmm, looked really good. Had poise

569
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: led the team on scoring drives? Looked the part. There

570
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: was some conjecture that perhaps Drew Pine could be somebody

571
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: who'd throw his name in the hat to become that

572
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: QB one now that they're looking for a quarterback, right

573
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: Jack CON's gone, Maybe he'll get drafted, Probably not, who knows, Yeah,

574
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: but Drew Pine could be his time to shine. Drew

575
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: Pine looked bad in this game. Oh no, he threw

576
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: a couple bad picks. And we're not talking about like

577
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: the receiver bobbled it and they ran the wrong root

578
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: or anything like. These are bad picks that Drew Pine threw.

579
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Speaker 1: And I think to further compound the problem for Pine,

580
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Speaker 1: this has been a theme for him this spring. It's

581
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: been the story all throughout Spring practice that the accuracy,

582
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: the footwork, the mechanics a lot has been off for

583
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Speaker 1: Drew Pine. And so if you're a betting man, and

584
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Speaker 1: if you took the early seventy five to one odds

585
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: on Drew Pine winning the Heisman, I have bad news

586
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: for you. This is gonna be Tyler Buckner's team.

587
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 2: Is there a single human on earth who took that bet?

588
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 2: Do you think?

589
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: I hope not. Maybe mister one took it.

590
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 2: Person Drew Pines High School? Is there one person who

591
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 2: was like, hey, did it is there that ye.

592
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: Let's text Tim Murray, okay from Vson, text him right

593
00:30:55,400 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: now and see if he has any source, any sharp,

594
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: anybody that he can speak with, who can tell us

595
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: if anybody took that action. All right, Pine, good to

596
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: know it's gonna be Tyler Buckner's team. This is not

597
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: a good showing for Drew Pine. That much came into focus,

598
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: so he didn't look good and that's not going to

599
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: bode well for him come September. We actually saw a

600
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: lot of Steve Angelly there. Four star freshmen who looked

601
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: I think pretty good, scored a walk off touchdown, dove

602
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: hit the pile, leave and jelly yeah, Steve Angel my god,

603
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: Notre Dame transfer. Steve Angelly has such a great ring too. Yeah,

604
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: he could end up being new Virginia quarterback. Notre Dame

605
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: transfer Steve Angel. Consart continued, he could end up being

606
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: the backup by by season's end. He's seem to have

607
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: better control of himself out there. Otherwise, Look, the running

608
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: backs look pretty good. Limited work from Chris Tyree, Logan

609
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: Diggs got a little bit of shady McCoy him where

610
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: he tries to bounce it outside too much. But okay,

611
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: if they can get him to go more north south,

612
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: I think that will be that will be good for him.

613
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: Jendarium Price is a name that you should commit to

614
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: your memory. He's a burner. He came out of the

615
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: backfield had one hundred and eleven yards receiving. Okay, he

616
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: definitely could take the top off the defense. He's a

617
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: guy they're gonna try and use in a bunch of

618
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: different ways. So I'm excited about him. Braiden Lenzy beefed

619
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: up a little bit at all, Muscle Brad Lensey's still there, Marsh.

620
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: The lines will work in progress sort of okay, but

621
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: you're your coaches back, Harry high Steeds back. Yeah, I'm excited.

622
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: I'm excited about this.

623
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 2: Is there anything in terms of visuals about this offense

624
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 2: that looks different because of Tommy Reese being unshackled like

625
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 2: people were talking about at least in the first half

626
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 2: of the bowl game, or because Marcus Freeman has a

627
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 2: vision that Tommy Reese is more aligned with whatever. Did

628
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 2: the offense look any different than you expected? It's tough

629
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 2: to say in a spring game backup quarterback.

630
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, tough tough to say. In a spring

631
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: game backup quarterback. Again, I can't emphasize enough how bad

632
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: Drew Pine looked in this game. And I hate to

633
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: say it, but he got a lot of the reps

634
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: because he just did experience. He was going to get

635
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: a lot of extra reps because Tyler Buckner was hurt,

636
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: and he just didn't. He didn't look good. Now, the

637
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: lines of work in progress is sort of a mixed

638
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: bag in this game. I think they're gonna be fine,

639
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: especially at the tackles and set the edge. That's a

640
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: good starting point. And they've got guys they've been good

641
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: along the line. Harry Heystack comes in like they'll be

642
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: fine along the offensive line. But Pine didn't look good.

643
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: There were definitely bright spots otherwise on offense. Defensively, Brandon

644
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: Joseph looked the part. Maris Lue foul. Their junior linebacker

645
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: is another name that you should commit to memory. I

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Speaker 1: think he's gonna be really good. Kicking game's gonna be

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Speaker 1: an issue. The kicking game is going to have Mama

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Speaker 1: h n I on edge all year long. It just

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Speaker 1: got it's gonna be one of them years. But by

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Speaker 1: and large, I think a pretty good showing for Notre Dame.

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Speaker 1: They were really excited, and obviously spring football brings with

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Speaker 1: it eternal optimist.

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Speaker 2: So is there a player that makes the hair on

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Speaker 2: your neck stand up like Kyle Hamilton did for those

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Speaker 2: three years on either side of the ball, is there

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Speaker 2: like a that's my guy?

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Speaker 1: It's been Tyler Buckner since he announced that he's gone,

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Speaker 1: you Notre name, it's been Tyler Buckner. We didn't get

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Speaker 1: to see him. They did the package thing with them. Okay, uh,

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Speaker 1: he has looked thus far in spring, Sands ankle thing,

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Speaker 1: whatever it was. Yeah, he's looked pretty good this spring.

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Speaker 1: And there's been a lot of if.

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Speaker 2: It's sands or songs, songs or sands, I never remember.

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Speaker 1: I've always said sands, but I'm from Eastern PA. Yeah, okay, fair.

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Speaker 1: Everything I've heard coming out of South Bend is that

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Speaker 1: Buckner looks good good. So he's been the guy for me.

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Speaker 1: And if if Jadarim Price can step up and show

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Speaker 1: that kind of explosivity, that would be exciting too. But

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Speaker 1: for me, it's still Buckner. Buckner is a dude who's

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Speaker 1: still in the backfield. Chris Tyree is there, Logan Diggs

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Speaker 1: is there, but Hiram Williams is done. Winds is done.

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Speaker 2: Chris Tyree he was formerly a neckair guy for you.

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Speaker 1: Chris Tyree was a neckcair guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, good already, Dan, there you go. Whoo.

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Speaker 2: I love your fake energy. I can see it in

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Speaker 2: your face because we can see each.

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Speaker 1: Other while we're recording this. I love the tie fake energy.

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Speaker 1: There go whoooo.

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Speaker 2: Till end with this because yeah, just speaking of endings,

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Speaker 2: I watched the last fourteen to seventeen minutes of Olympus

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Speaker 2: Has Fallen.

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Speaker 1: Oh, in the hotel room.

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Speaker 2: Have you seen it?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Have you seen Olympus Has Fallen?

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Speaker 1: I've seen Olympus Has Fallen many times. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think it's the perfect movie because you can watch

688
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Speaker 2: literally fourteen minutes at the end of the movie where

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Speaker 2: I think it's Aaron Eckhart plays the president.

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Speaker 1: It's correct.

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Speaker 2: You got Gerard Butler. I think it's some sort of

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Speaker 2: security personnel. I don't know if he's bodyguard. I don't

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Speaker 2: know what he is.

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Speaker 1: He kind of fell out of favor because there was

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Speaker 1: an incident where his wife got heard in a yep

696
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Speaker 1: in a car crash or yep, yep.

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Speaker 2: There was something roguish about him. Sure, you had Morgan

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Speaker 2: Freeman back in like Central Command because they were scared

699
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 2: about whoever was kidnapping and attacking the White House had

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Speaker 2: activated something called Cerberus, some sort of protocol that would

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Speaker 2: either detonate a bunch of ICBM type weaponry. I don't know,

702
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Speaker 2: but I watched the last fourteen minutes minutes in which

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Speaker 2: Gerard Butler defeats the terrorist whoever the interlopers rescues the

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Speaker 2: president who was recently shot spoiler aler. This was like

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Speaker 2: on TNT or something. So if you haven't watched Olympus

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Speaker 2: Has Fallen yet, and you got to the end of

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Speaker 2: this two parter and we're just thinking to yourself, well,

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Speaker 2: as long as they don't spoil Olympus has Fallen, I'm good. Sorry,

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Speaker 2: here's the spoiler. But you know, in the last three

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Speaker 2: seconds they're able to deactivate Cerberus, which is such a

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Speaker 2: good name for a top secret protocol. I called what

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Speaker 2: Penn State didn't have at the end of the Michigan

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Speaker 2: game a lack of excelsior. Cerberus is a really good one.

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Speaker 2: Three headed Devil's dog or something like that. Is that

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Speaker 2: what a Cerberus is?

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Speaker 1: I have absolutely no IDEA demon dog of some kind.

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Speaker 2: Sure, But I watched the last fourteen minutes of this

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Speaker 2: movie and it was such a perfect Yeah, I've seen enough,

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing, though, if you watch the last

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Speaker 1: fourteen minutes, you didn't get to see the previous seventy

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Speaker 1: four minutes. Yeah, when they actually take down Olympus, this

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Speaker 1: being the White House right now, and they were successful,

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Speaker 1: and there is a scene, there is a scene, an

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Speaker 1: improbable scene earlier in that movie where they bring out

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Speaker 1: a bunch of attack helicopters. They take out the good guys,

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Speaker 1: and then there are a bunch of dudes running across

728
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Speaker 1: the lawn to the White House, and then when they

729
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Speaker 1: get inside, they're running around stabbing Secret Service guys in

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Speaker 1: the neck.

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Speaker 2: Oh, very specific strategy. Okay, you're stabbing him in the neck.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's insane. Yeah, it's a weird movie. I always

733
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Speaker 1: get a confused White House Down, which is basically the

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Speaker 1: same movie, but with Channing Tatum in a little less vine.

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Speaker 2: Have other things fallen other than Olympus?

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Speaker 1: They made they made another one. They made an I

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Speaker 1: think they made another one in uh London has fallen?

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, so they made a sequel to it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, did you make did you stream it? Did you

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Speaker 2: catch it on cable? Did you go to the theaters?

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Speaker 1: What was your decision? Come on, I don't know, no, no, no,

742
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Speaker 1: that was a Netflix streaming service. It's part of my

743
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Speaker 1: subscription type of thing. No thing for that, come on.

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Speaker 2: But you sat down. We're like, tonight is Olympus has

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00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 2: fallen night. Kate wasn't with me, okay. I was gonna

746
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Speaker 2: say that's a hard cell.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, Kate was with me when I tried money

748
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Speaker 1: plane and so I don't get picks anymore.

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Speaker 2: But are you going to go out of you? Obviously

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Speaker 2: you are. For the Nick Cage movie The Unbearable Weight

751
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Speaker 2: of Whatever, Unshakable or something like that.

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Speaker 1: I'll be there the first day, yeah, yeah, of course, no, okay,

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Speaker 1: And I'm planning a whole weekend around that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I'm trying to figure out what, like, what

755
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Speaker 2: are my top five? I understand this movie is bad,

756
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Speaker 2: but also it's amazing. I don't know, and not like

757
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Speaker 2: in the so bad. It is amazing, but I understand

758
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 2: that cinematically it's pretty poor, but I'm entertained by every

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Speaker 2: second of it. Unironically, like I think they did a

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Speaker 2: good job of making this movie. I don't know what

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Speaker 2: that movie is. Maybe there's probably I don't know if

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00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 2: it's True Lies or one of those from the nineties,

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Speaker 2: But I don't know. Tom Marnold's pretty good and True.

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Speaker 1: Lies Solid Verbal at gmail dot com is the email.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, send us your like. I understand that there are

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Speaker 2: plot holes. I understand that the dialogue is shaky at times,

767
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Speaker 2: but in terms of pure entertainment, this just tickles me

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Speaker 2: where I need it.

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Speaker 1: I need to think more about this, but I I

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Speaker 1: will provide answers on the next show, maybe as part

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Speaker 1: of the Bruine tomorrow. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's ConA air for you. Maybe it's like the

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Speaker 2: Rock is up there for me, like the Rock is

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Speaker 2: a face off. Sure there are plot holes, namely the

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Speaker 2: entire premise of.

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Speaker 1: The Yeah, it's a lot. I mean it's a little shaky, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a little.

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Speaker 2: Bit, But I don't know, man, it's pretty great. Shout

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Speaker 2: out caster Troy.

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Speaker 1: Shout out caster Troy on that note. Yeah, okay, thanks

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Speaker 1: you to one and all for downloading this episode, for

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Speaker 1: subscribing I know you did that earlier to this podcast.

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Speaker 1: portal into what's going on in this spring. For that

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Speaker 1: guy there, my good friend Dan Rubenstein, for myself Tye

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