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Speaker 3: Good morning, sweirld and welcome to the Nodunks podcast on

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Speaker 3: the Athletic Network. It's Monday, July third, twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 3: I'm Jay eastkeets here in the Classic Factory, and alongside

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Speaker 3: me as always, tas Mellice.

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Speaker 1: Hey hey, hey, podcast listeners, this for you.

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Speaker 3: Trey Kirby, Hey out hey. Oh and last but not least,

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Speaker 1: Hello, there he is, and here we are.

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Speaker 3: at four pm local time, Saturday July eighth, It's a

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Speaker 3: little No Dunks slash Athletic NBA Show Meet and greet.

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Speaker 3: You can shake my hand and Andrew Schleck's hand at

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Speaker 3: can't wait to meet Zach Harper. You've never met Zach Harper?

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Speaker 3: What are you talking about?

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Speaker 1: Shocked?

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Speaker 2: I've been going to the same events for four years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I've never met him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we've done it's possible.

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Speaker 3: a good little trade grade Zach Harper. Joke there for

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Speaker 3: you Athletic subscribers. Go to the Athletic dot Com slash

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Speaker 3: no dunks Get one anyway, four o'clock Vegas time there

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot of great icebreakers there as well.

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Speaker 1: There's sports on the board as well. You know, you

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Speaker 3: Well Saturday, Hey sports, Oh, here's what I'm gonna say, yeah,

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Speaker 3: what do you think about that UFC line? Because there's

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Speaker 4: Make those how do they make those crazy Jordan hush

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Speaker 3: All right, Look, let's get into it here. Lots of

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Speaker 3: agency round up, but let's give you the latest on Lillard.

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Speaker 3: On Saturday morning, Blazer star Damian Lillard finally requested a trade.

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Speaker 3: We jumped in the yard, We dropped the Emergent podcast.

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Speaker 3: Thanks everybody that joined us live or listened or watched it.

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Speaker 3: Later well later that day, Portland GM Joe Cronin, he

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Speaker 3: We have been clear that we want Dane here, but

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Speaker 3: he notified us today he wants out and he'd prefer

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Speaker 3: Off of Lillard or obviously him asking for a trade

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Speaker 1: It could be the Brooklyn Nets. Hey take Tyler hero

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Speaker 3: Pretty close as well, pretty damn close. Let's throw up

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Speaker 3: that board, actually, JD, when you're talking just heat Blazers

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Speaker 3: after July Firth thirty first, excuse me, but there is

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Speaker 3: I think they are trying to like obviously improve their

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Speaker 2: Learn how to win.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget the jock, sure.

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Speaker 3: Jeff, I don't care about him at all, honestly.

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Speaker 3: similarities Marcus Smart. You know Diana's hair. Green, I guess

431
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Speaker 3: Dylan Brook's wearing his Steve Stone Cold Steve Boston vests

432
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Speaker 3: and stuff like that. They're characters, but they're hard, those

433
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 3: guys that actually give a shit and play defense and

434
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Speaker 3: want to win. So I actually don't mind it.

435
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Speaker 4: This is basically Bruce Brown all over again. They said

436
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Speaker 4: every Dylan Brooks on mid level exception, Nobody's complaining about that,

437
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,439
Speaker 4: and he would be helpful to teams. But if you

438
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Speaker 4: go twice the mid level exception for four years, he

439
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 4: will sign with your team. The Rockets are better. They

440
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Speaker 4: probably won't be the worst team in the Western Conference

441
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Speaker 4: this season. They'll be second or third worst team. But

442
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,439
Speaker 4: they're coming from seventeen, twenty and twenty two wins, so

443
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Speaker 4: they're gonna get some more toughness. They're gonna get some

444
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Speaker 4: more complaining here. But really, this is what cap space

445
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Speaker 4: gets you. In twenty twenty three, John Hollandre had a

446
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Speaker 4: great article over at The Athletic that subscribe at the

447
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 4: Athletic dot com slash no dunks. Basically, nobody signs for

448
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 4: cap space anymore. So if you have a lot of money,

449
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 4: you gotta spend it. And what the Rockets got here

450
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,680
Speaker 4: was not dissimilar to the twenty ten Nets back when

451
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 4: they cleared a whole bunch of cap space for that

452
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Speaker 4: big free agency season.

453
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Speaker 2: They had to spend it.

454
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Speaker 4: Eventually, they got Travis Outlaw, Anthony Morrow, Johann Petro, and

455
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 4: Jordan Farmar, all guys signing their biggest contracts of their

456
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,880
Speaker 4: career because they needed some veteran help. It helped they

457
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 4: went from twelve wins to twenty four wins, and then

458
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 4: they traded all those for Joe Johnson. So that's kind

459
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Speaker 4: of what I think this is. These are just some

460
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Speaker 4: guys and be.

461
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Speaker 2: Like those are.

462
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Speaker 3: Van Vleet and Brooks are much better than those four

463
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 3: shitty NETS players you name them. I mean there at least.

464
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Speaker 2: One's an all starry one doesn't.

465
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Speaker 4: Imagine imagine Van Vleet didn't win a championship for the

466
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Speaker 4: Raptors and Dylan Brooks wasn't Canadian though, come on, is

467
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Speaker 4: it over?

468
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Speaker 3: So you're completely off Dylan Brooks being a contributing player.

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Speaker 3: You thought he should go play in China with the

470
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Speaker 3: sh Shanghai Sharks.

471
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Speaker 4: But I'm just saying, what's he gonna do for the Rockets.

472
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Speaker 4: They're gonna win twenty eight games this season? Thirty games

473
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Speaker 4: this season, That's what I'm saying. You gotta pay the money.

474
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Speaker 2: You gotta pay the money out like I'm sure Anthony

475
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 2: Morrow shot forty percent from three one of those years. Nets.

476
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Speaker 4: You know, like good players, they gotta go play somewhere.

477
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 4: Dylan Brooks was willing to take the money because he

478
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Speaker 4: needs to rehab his image around the league and kind

479
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 4: of prove that he can be a solid veteran rather

480
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Speaker 4: than a detrimental veteran.

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Speaker 1: It's just confusing how long they signed them for. It

482
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Speaker 1: would have been nice for Fred and Dylan Brooks, in

483
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Speaker 1: my opinion, if you're in the Rocket front office, to

484
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 1: shepherd these guys the next two years to the third

485
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 1: year of glory. Hopefully, hopefully Jamari Smith and Jalen Green

486
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Speaker 1: have found their way, along with guys like Cam Whitmore.

487
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 1: There's they are so so so deep with young players.

488
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Speaker 1: I don't really like Dylan Brooks in year three and

489
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Speaker 1: year four taking shots from these guys. I mean, is

490
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Speaker 1: he gonna be Is he gonna overshoot these first couple

491
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Speaker 1: of years. I mean that's I just don't understand these long,

492
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Speaker 1: long guarantees. Yes, you got caproom, you've got to spend it,

493
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Speaker 1: but you're not necessarily gonna have caproom in the third

494
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Speaker 1: year of these contracts because there's going to be so

495
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Speaker 1: many guys coming up for deals after two years on

496
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Speaker 1: your team. So that's the confusing part to me. It

497
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Speaker 1: was confusing seeing Dylan Brooks as an all defense guy

498
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Speaker 1: this year, and I guess, yeah, you Dooka definitely sees

499
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Speaker 1: some smart similarities. Sure, but you also got that in

500
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Speaker 1: Fred van Vliet. I mean, he's that he is the

501
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Speaker 1: guy the Dylan Brooks thing was. It's a little surprising.

502
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Speaker 1: But hopefully Jeff can hold it down as well. Jeff Green, Jeff,

503
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Speaker 1: I wish.

504
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Speaker 4: He was going to a different team just because he's

505
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Speaker 4: already Yeah, not that exciting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point.

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Speaker 1: They overpaid for him too. I mean, he's gonna help.

508
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Speaker 1: But that six million.

509
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Speaker 3: Disagreeing with you, guys, they overpaid for all three of

510
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Speaker 3: those guys for if probably we include Jock, even though

511
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 3: it's only you know, the first year guaranteed. It's because

512
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 3: they want to establish an identity and they're knew they

513
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Speaker 3: were gonna have to like pay through the fricking teeth

514
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Speaker 3: for it. But they I think they have one. I

515
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 3: think the good thing about Van Vleet and Brooks, these

516
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 3: are big, big deals. My gut says, those two guys

517
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 3: are not like got the bag. I'll just got to

518
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 3: kick back now and just enjoy my time in Houston,

519
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 3: see you at the Strip Club. Gonna have the time

520
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Speaker 3: of my life. I just don't I feel like those

521
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Speaker 3: two specifically are not wired that way. It's more of

522
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Speaker 3: like if anything, in Dylan Brooks case, and maybe in VanVleet,

523
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Speaker 3: it's a bit of like I hear what everybody's saying,

524
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Speaker 3: I'll use this as motivation, a bit of an f

525
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Speaker 3: you you think I'm sort of like overpaid or you know,

526
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 3: you shouldn't even be in the league. In Brooks case,

527
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 3: I think that will just set an identity that this

528
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 3: team desperately needs. They've been garbage for three straight years. Yeah,

529
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 3: got some nice draft picks, didn't result in anything. Now

530
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Speaker 3: what you can barely even tell me, Like you're like,

531
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 3: whoa that person really got better?

532
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Speaker 2: Like that was?

533
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Speaker 3: That was what they started getting concerned about. I think

534
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 3: their picks in Jail and Green and Sheng Gun they're like, oh,

535
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 3: are they stagnating here? Like are they're not really growing

536
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Speaker 3: maybe at the rate we want them to.

537
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Speaker 1: Speaking of stagnating, we've seen the best of Fred van Vliet,

538
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Speaker 1: We've seen the best of Dylan Brooks. How many more

539
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Speaker 1: wins are they gonna add?

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Speaker 3: To Tracey, I think they're gonna add ten wins? And

541
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Speaker 3: I think that for them, like you just went through

542
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 3: what were the seventeens and the twenties.

543
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Speaker 2: Of two wins.

544
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, thirty two.

545
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Speaker 3: So like for them, they're definitely at like what we're

546
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Speaker 3: seeing at the Orlando Magic Stages here last couple of years, Like, yeah,

547
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Speaker 3: thirty five wins is a is an incredible year for them.

548
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Speaker 3: Next year, like if they're between thirty and thirty five,

549
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Speaker 3: that's a good year.

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Speaker 1: Probably. Yeah. The thing is to me, they just pay

551
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: them for too long. We don't know about Fred's health

552
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: a few years from now, and we don't know about

553
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: Dylan Brooks his bod when you're talking about that stone

554
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: cold bod. Yeah, he may work every day, but it

555
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: doesn't look like he works when you look at the

556
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 1: muscularity on that butt. Anyway, good luck. I hope it

557
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: all works. He's not a muscle guy just because he

558
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 1: wears a muscle shirt.

559
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 3: I didn't say he was, you did, Yeah, we said

560
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 3: what it's easy. I was confused about the muscular definition

561
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 3: on Brooks and how that impacted his.

562
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: Contract impacts as his work ethic. We just don't know

563
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Speaker 1: if he's going to be that guy for four years.

564
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's who knows.

565
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 3: Let's talk about the Lakers. They were very busy in

566
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 3: free agency Day one, Just to remind you, they re

567
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 3: signed Rui Hachimura three years fifty one million. They got

568
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 3: Gabe Vincent from the Heat three years thirty three million.

569
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Speaker 3: Torrian Prince. People were high on this one, scooping him

570
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 3: up for four point five million. They're just a one

571
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 3: year deal. Cam Reddish is on the Lakers two years,

572
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 3: four point six million, former lottery pick there, and then

573
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 3: day two they weren't done. Austin Reeves four years fifty

574
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Speaker 3: six million dollars looks like a bit of a steal

575
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 3: when you're talking money. D'Angelo Russell's back to year thirty

576
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 3: seven million, and then Jackson Hayes from the Pelicans is

577
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 3: headed to LA two years, four point six million. Trey,

578
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 3: let's start with you. You know what type of grade

579
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 3: are you given the Lakers free agency of the last

580
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Speaker 3: couple of days.

581
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Speaker 2: I'll give him a nice solid B.

582
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Speaker 4: I think Rob Polink has been cooking a little bit

583
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 4: here basically since the trade deadline. I mean, in the

584
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 4: big turning Russell Westbrook into a team that makes sense.

585
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 4: They've kind of just gone back to where they were

586
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 4: at after the twenty twenty Championship, when it seemed like, Yeah,

587
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 4: we're just going to bring back some athletic guys, some defenders.

588
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 2: Hopefully they can hit some shots from the outside.

589
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 4: What works around Lebron and Ad and that's kind of

590
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 4: where they're at right now. I feel like Ruy Hachimura

591
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 4: probably a little bit overpaid, but if he's the playoff

592
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 4: Ruy that we saw, if he's a forty percent three

593
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 4: point shooter, I think he shot forty eight percent in

594
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 4: the playoffs this season, that seems unlikely, but you would

595
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 4: like him at this He always what seventeen mil. If

596
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 4: he shoots thirty percent from three like he did when

597
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 4: he was at Washington, then you're fretting a little bit here.

598
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 4: But I think it makes up for it. Because Austin

599
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 4: Reeves only making four years fifty six million coming into

600
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 4: the offseason, there's a lot of talk about if a

601
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 4: team would kind of make the Lakers really overpay for him,

602
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 4: drop a four year, one hundred million dollar deal on him. Instead,

603
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 4: they're getting them at fifty six because there was no

604
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 4: other suitors out there. D'Angelo Russell, that's kind of a

605
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 4: big deal. Eighteen and a half million. But as much

606
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 4: as the Lakers hate it, you gotta still play during

607
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 4: the regular season. He will help them at least during

608
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Speaker 4: the regular season eighteen and a half.

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Speaker 2: For a starting point guard. I think that's fair.

610
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Speaker 4: So I think they're just doing a good job of

611
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 4: keeping the players that worked around Lebron and Ad and

612
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 4: then taking some swings on some guys who maybe hit.

613
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Speaker 2: Not all of them are gonna hit.

614
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 4: Not Torrian Prince and Cam Reddish aren't gonna both suddenly

615
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 4: be incredible players. But if like one of Gabe Vincent, Jackson, Hayes,

616
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Speaker 4: Prince or Reddish hits, then they did it exactly right.

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Speaker 1: I think it's totally acceptable to talk about the Lakers again.

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00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously they're a conference finalists, but you know,

619
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Speaker 1: twelve months ago, eight months ago, we were just hope,

620
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Speaker 1: hopeful that this team somehow came together, and I think

621
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: they even improved after coming together. This postseason. They got

622
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: Dangel Russell back for cheaper, far cheaper. So you replace

623
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Speaker 1: Dennis Shruder with Gabe Vincent, who you can see being great.

624
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Speaker 1: You can see him replacing D'Angelo Russell as the starting

625
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: point guard at times if need be. In the postseason,

626
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Speaker 1: you can see him being the Mario Chalmers and hitting

627
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: shots I mean he was great with what was it,

628
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: five twenty point games of this playoffs? Like he can

629
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: help big time. They replaced Troy Brown with Torrian Prince.

630
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Speaker 1: Maybe that's an upgrade. Who knows Jackson Hayes. Can he

631
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Speaker 1: be a bird man from Lebron's days? Like it's a possibility,

632
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: will it happen? Who knows? Cam Reddish an interesting one there? Yeah,

633
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: that's all potential. They haven't signed Lonnie Walker back quite yet,

634
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: but he's kind of calling them where else? Oh oh yeah,

635
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: he's snuck in there. Yeah, to the nets? So that's it. Yeah,

636
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: I think that could be a because Lonnie Walker did help.

637
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: He did win a playoff game there, Will Cam Reddish

638
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: do the same? It's a it's a clutch signing there,

639
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: it's a potential signing for him. Two year, six point

640
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: four so oh in all, yeah, they got better and

641
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: I you know, you have to believe in Austin Reeves

642
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: one hundred percent that he's going to get better. That's

643
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: going to be a great contract. Oh bad, dude is

644
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: a baller. He is only getting better. And the RUI

645
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: he played well there, so you got to think that

646
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: that's a decent deal for him. As well. You know,

647
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: if he continues to be Laker RUI.

648
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 3: Well, they need ruly to just play well in the

649
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 3: games he starts. When Lebron sits, when he misses, you know,

650
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 3: as he probably should at this point in his career. Misses.

651
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 3: Whatever thirty games do to, you know, back to back

652
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 3: situations and little ankle injury here. Okay, really, you're in

653
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 3: there alongside Anthony Davis, try and do your best. Lebron

654
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 3: vacs amily Austin Reeves. That's an awesome deal. I can't

655
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 3: believe that's what they ultimately got him for. I thought

656
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 3: that was a typle when it came across Twitter. He

657
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 3: is easily going to outperform that contract. He already showed

658
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 3: in the playoffs he was averaging seventeen points per game

659
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 3: as like the number three score on the team. He's

660
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 3: got some playmaking chops, he plays hard on d His

661
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 3: shooting splits in the playoffs forty six percent forty four

662
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 3: from deep. He chipped in five boards and five assists

663
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 3: if we round up a little bit, seventeen to five

664
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 3: and five for a guy with good efficiency that gives

665
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 3: a damn on the defensive end, and that has already

666
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 3: sort of shown at least he can do it through

667
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,719
Speaker 3: a playoff run. That should be more than what he

668
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 3: just got. Like that feels to me like a twenty

669
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 3: million dollars player right there. I mean, we're arguing about

670
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 3: Dylan Brooks being four for eighty. That should be what

671
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 3: Reeves is right. But yeah, they just scored on this

672
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 3: one that no one, no one else wanted to put

673
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 3: them in a tough spot and throw more money at

674
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Speaker 3: Austin Reings.

675
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Speaker 1: They paid him all stuff, all that they could under

676
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: the CBA. Gave him a trade kicker. If you get traded,

677
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: you get that bonus. They gave him a player option

678
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: for the last year. They did all they could. Surprising

679
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: that somebody, some team didn't just sign Hman have a

680
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars player on their roster. Potentially would

681
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: have been the Rockets or Spurs. I guess, yeah, Spurs.

682
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 4: A lot of people think, yes, Spurs would have been

683
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 4: the one because the Rockets got, like we've talked about

684
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 4: a lot of young guys. I guess if you were

685
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 4: wanting to criticize the Lakers, you would say they.

686
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 2: Completely overpaid for playoff performances.

687
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 4: Here, Gabe Vincent was a thirty three percent shooter from

688
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 4: the field during the regular season, caught fire in the playoffs.

689
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 4: Reeves had a really good after the trade deadline, was

690
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 4: great in the playoffs as well.

691
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,959
Speaker 2: Still on his way up during the season, really hot.

692
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,959
Speaker 4: Ja Murraw, like we've talked about, the guy was salary

693
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 4: dumped at the trade deadline. So there's a chance that

694
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 4: none of these payoff, or there's a chance that all

695
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 4: three of these guys are awesome in the playoffs again,

696
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 4: and Rob Polink looks like a genius.

697
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they just playoff Lebron and ad and

698
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: continue their spots. Like Gabe Vincent, totally true. He was

699
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: at below average in the regular season somehow, like every

700
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: Miami Heat player woke up in the postseason. But I

701
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: think if you're getting passes fired to you from Bron

702
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: and Ad it I think he'll be great. Just don't

703
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: dribble anymore, I mean, not as much, and that's why. Yeah,

704
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: Hatchimura was awesome as well. So yeah, it all depends

705
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: if Lebron is still healthy, and why wouldn't he be

706
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: for most of the year.

707
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 3: In the playoffs, do you think the Lakers did enough

708
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 3: here over the last couple of days, and then especially

709
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 3: when you compare to the Nuggets losing a couple of

710
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 3: their key bench contributors and Bruce Brown and Jeff Green,

711
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 3: though I guess they brought in justin the holiday. Do

712
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 3: you think the Lakers have done enough to like, really

713
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 3: challenge Denver in another potential playoff series?

714
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 4: No, I think Denver is still the clear favorite in

715
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 4: the Western Conference, but I think the Lakers are right

716
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 4: there with Phoenix in the second tier of wanting to

717
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:45,240
Speaker 4: make the conference finals.

718
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 2: Will take our shot against Denver?

719
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 3: Who do you think?

720
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Totally the same. Nuggets have to be the favorite.

721
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,959
Speaker 3: Money man. Let's talk about the guys that got paid.

722
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 3: Nice little graphic here from our guy, Jerome Tyre's Halibert

723
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 3: five years, two hundred and sixty million dollar max deal

724
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 3: from the Pacers, LaMelo Ball, same thing from the Hornet's

725
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 3: five years to sixty the Grizzlies. They gave a max

726
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 3: to Desmond Baine. It's five years, two hundred and seven million,

727
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 3: my goodness. And then the Kings we included it here,

728
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 3: not a max, but damn near close. They did a

729
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 3: renegotiation and extension with him five years, two hundred and

730
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 3: seventeen million. Dollars is what Sabonis is going to be making.

731
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Speaker 3: Any of those guys you want to talk about, and

732
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,720
Speaker 3: the deals they signed test well.

733
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Speaker 1: I think the Pacers are going to be everyone's hot

734
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: pick for this surprise team in the Eastern Conference. I

735
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: guess Tyrus Alburn is the guy that people love and

736
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,919
Speaker 1: love to watch play and love to play with. And

737
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: they also got Obi toppin from the New York Nicks,

738
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: so they are going to be good in transition. Obie

739
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: Topping is going to catch out a lot of oops,

740
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: but we'll see he hasn't been able to stay on

741
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: the floor, specifically Obi Topping. I mean he hasn't played

742
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: more than seventeen minutes per game through his three years

743
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 1: because he's been a liability defensively. So they get tyres

744
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: Haliburt and you sign him obviously great centerpiece, but they

745
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: were below average last year on both sides of the ball.

746
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 1: And him, along with the Bruce Brown signing, the Jerris

747
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: Walker sign or Jeris Walker draft pick to go along

748
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: with Alburt Mathern, Buddy Heal, Miles Turner, a scrappy TJ. McConnell,

749
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: and Obi Topping, they're going to be the pick. They're

750
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: going to be the sexy pick.

751
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 3: Do you think the pick that's like that was obviously

752
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 3: out of the playoffs to jump up?

753
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, people will look and say, why can't they be

754
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: the Kings type thing, But they've got to climb a lot.

755
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if they can't, but they should be

756
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: a playing team and they should be exciting you like.

757
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 3: The moves Bruce Brown obviously getting top in. You're of

758
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 3: course going to give the money to Haliburton. Yeah, yeah, but.

759
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: I don't think that they really move the needle that much.

760
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: It depends if Mathern's great, so they should jump, but

761
00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: how much TVD.

762
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 4: Any thoughts on any of those money men, Well, Haliburton's

763
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 4: twenty four and LaMelo is twenty two, so no complaints

764
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 4: on those gigantic deals. People were questioning Desmond Baine getting

765
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 4: a two hundred million dollars, but he's one of the

766
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 4: best shooters in the league, and I mean he's coming

767
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 4: off his rookie deal. Those guys always get Max as

768
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 4: he's part of the core there in Memphis. So I

769
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 4: guess the biggest question mark is definitely Demonta Sibonis will

770
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 4: be twenty eight at the end. Of this season. So

771
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,919
Speaker 4: the Kings are paying for Sibonis through his prime, yeah,

772
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 4: which I think is fair. He just had an All

773
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 4: NBA season, The Kings are on the upswing. He fits

774
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,439
Speaker 4: perfect next to Fox, who they've already got on a deal.

775
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 4: So it makes sense they might regret it towards the

776
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 4: end of it when he's you know, thirty two years

777
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 4: old and they're looking for somebody else. They might stall

778
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 4: out at just a good team in the Western Conference.

779
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 4: And then you got two huge deals and who knows

780
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 4: that Simponis is trade dead or trade value looks like

781
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 4: as time goes on. But I mean, Sacramento doesn't get

782
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 4: a ton of free agent, so they've got a guy

783
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 4: in his prime who's an All NBA player.

784
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 2: I think it's fair paying in this.

785
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I would add to that the guy played

786
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 3: with a broken hand, like you know, respect. He could

787
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,919
Speaker 3: have easily been like, no, my hand's broken, I gotta

788
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 3: sit this one out, man, And he did it. And

789
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 3: he tried to get Sacramento into their first postseason in

790
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 3: a long long time, and obviously was fantastic in doing so.

791
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 3: I think there was like a hell, yeah, this guy,

792
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 3: this guy wants to help along with Fox, lead us

793
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 3: to somewhere we haven't been in a long long time.

794
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 3: Pay him accordingly, And like the other thing with all

795
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 3: of these deals here, we just got to get used

796
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 3: to the sticker shock of these massive two hundred and

797
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 3: fifty two hundred and sixty million over two hundred million

798
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 3: for all of these guys. The cap is just going

799
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 3: to continue to rise, and you got to start thinking

800
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 3: about it as a percentage of the cap. It's just

801
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 3: getting bigger and bigger and bigger. And look, I'm guilty too.

802
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 3: You see some of these, you go, what holy crap

803
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 3: for LaMelo Ball, you're like five years two sixty. Yeah,

804
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 3: he's young, but obviously he hasn't done anything yet. That's

805
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 3: what you sort of have to do when you get

806
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 3: obviously a hygdrat pick who is an All Star already

807
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 3: and looks like a very talented player. These are just

808
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 3: going to be eye opening numbers. But that's just the

809
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 3: NBA market as it is. And again, the cap space

810
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 3: goes up and it actually gets better and better. I

811
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,439
Speaker 3: put that in air quotes because it's like a less percentage.

812
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: Right, and because it's difficult to remember yesterday, because we

813
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 1: do a billion shows. I initially thought moa Ball's contract, Okay,

814
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: you're just paying a guy who's a really good player

815
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: but on a losing team. But I do forget that

816
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: they were an above five hundred team his last healthy year,

817
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: which wasn't that long ago, twenty one twenty two, when

818
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 1: he did make that All Star team. They were a

819
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: good team. It just feels weird to say that about

820
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 1: Charlotte Horne's team, but they weren't above five hundred team

821
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: at forty three and thirty nine and twenty one twenty two.

822
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: And yeah, that team that doesn't get free agents signed

823
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: that dude. And it's similar, like the Desmond Bay move

824
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: is a real Nuggets move. It's pay our guys and

825
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: we'll figure it out later. The Nuggets with Jokich and

826
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: Murray and Michael Porter junior, you know, injuries held them back,

827
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: you know post bubble, those two years, injuries held them back.

828
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: Morant's off court incidents have held the Grizzlies back. But

829
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 1: this team is also a winning team. There's a second

830
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: seed two years in a row, so they're just going

831
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: to go forward. And this, the bonus move is kind

832
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: of a Nuggets move too. Investing in their own just fine.

833
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: I guess the criticism is would another team have gone

834
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: in there and paid him the same amount of money.

835
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: But you know, they're I think they're they're smartly doing it.

836
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: They're putting it in within this year's cap number most

837
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: likely when they do sort of configure the numbers, and

838
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: it just shows the locker room. Hey, we're dedicated to winning.

839
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: Like you said about his injury, that's fine. It's totally fine.

840
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: And hopefully they can grow like the Nuggets. That's what

841
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: they're hoping.

842
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 3: Some other notable names from the NBA free agency weekend here.

843
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 3: Max Struce is headed to Cleveland after all, Remember on

844
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 3: Friday night, we weren't one hundred percent sure whether that

845
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 3: was happening. But it is a sign and trade. It

846
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 3: was a three team deal, but four years, sixty three

847
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 3: million dollars. Struce in Cleveland, Brook Lopez, as I said,

848
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 3: going back to Milwaukee two years forty eight million. Dante

849
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 3: Devincenzo four years fifty million with the Knicks. The New

850
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 3: York Wildcats people they're calling them. Jordan Clarkson, he's staying

851
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 3: in Utah three years fifty five million. Westbrook two years,

852
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 3: eight million dollars to stay with the Clips. Biggest pay

853
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 3: cut in NBA history is that what people were saying

854
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 3: with Russ going from what forty seven million to a

855
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 3: before Obi top and we said, traded from the Knicks

856
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 3: to the Pacers. EuroLeague MVP Sasha Vesenkoff, he's going to

857
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 3: Sacramento three years, twenty million. People are very high on this.

858
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 3: This guy can really shoot the ball. And then Eric Gordon,

859
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 3: we slipped him in here sort of late two years,

860
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 3: six million. He's going to Phoenix. And the Suns did

861
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,919
Speaker 3: a whole lot in the first couple days of trying

862
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,280
Speaker 3: to build out their roster. Trey, let's start with you,

863
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 3: you know of those notable names which one jumps off

864
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 3: the page.

865
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 2: To you, all right? I think the Calves improved on

866
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 2: the wing.

867
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 4: I think that Max Strus, George and Karis Lavert is

868
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 4: better than Karris Cheddi Osman and Lamar Stevens.

869
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 3: Yep.

870
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 4: So you know, probably still the weakest position for the Cavs,

871
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 4: but they got better. I like the Pacers getting Obie toppin.

872
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 4: The price was right, They're gonna run and gun. He

873
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 4: fits along there, and I think the next kind of

874
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 4: botched toppens time there he definitely is not a defender,

875
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,919
Speaker 4: but it's basically just been buried behind Julius Randall, who

876
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 4: tib seems to enjoy a little bit more so. I

877
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 4: think it'll be nice for him to stretch his legs

878
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 4: a little bit. I'm a Dante DiVincenzo fan. I like

879
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 4: that he's reunited with the other Villanova guys. But the

880
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 4: Knicks have a ton of guards right now.

881
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 2: I think they just spent a.

882
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 4: Lot of money on another guard. Obviously, Jalen Brunson is

883
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 4: entrenched as their point guard. They've got RJ. Barrett, They've

884
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 4: now got Dante DiVincenzo, they got Josh Hart, they got

885
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,919
Speaker 4: Quentin Grimes quickly quickly isn't guard as well. I guess

886
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 4: he's probably considered a backup point guard. Evan forty eight

887
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 4: is still around Cash and Chicks, throwing his hands up like, hey,

888
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 4: I'm still around here. I don't necessary know that the

889
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 4: Knicks needed to do this for Dante divincenj s. Devincenzo.

890
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 4: Great for the Vibes, but they need somebody else at

891
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 4: the big positions. I think it's Randall, It's Robinson, it's Hartenstein, Yep,

892
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 4: Jericho Sims is around, but I don't think he's a

893
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 4: big part of their future. They could definitely use a

894
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 4: little bit more wing depth. I think this is just

895
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 4: kind of strange to me, and I think the Suns

896
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 4: did a really good job. They literally sorted low to

897
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 4: high on the free agency and picked the best guys

898
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 4: out there. So we'll see if Eric Gordon pays off.

899
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 4: But he tried to sign a contract with the Suns

900
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 4: back in twenty twelve for four years, fifty eight million dollars,

901
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 4: basically the Austin Reeves deal. It just took him eleven

902
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 4: seasons to finally get to Phoenix.

903
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty remarkable that they got their third most

904
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: reliable guard besides Booker and Biale for nothing, I mean,

905
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: for a two year, six million dollar contract towards the

906
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: end of free agency, you know, the last after a

907
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 1: couple of days. He's more reliable than Campaign. He could

908
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: end games for this team. So that's a great, great signing.

909
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: It's a really interesting team with they then bringing back

910
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 1: on the wings. You know, besides their big four of book, Durant,

911
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: Bill and Ayton, they have Eric Gordon. Now they have

912
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 1: Campaign and then their wings are Josha Kogie. They brought

913
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: back Damian Lee Utah Watchinabe on a minimum deal because

914
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 1: he's got that connection with Kevin Durant Ish Wainwright, and

915
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: then the Biggs Drew Eubanks who will be backing up

916
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:36,240
Speaker 1: DeAndre Ayton could be good. He's an athletic guy. Kaita

917
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: Bates d up and athletic guy. Shot forty percent from

918
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: the Spurs for the Spurs last year and Timezi metu.

919
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 1: So all in all, I think they did pretty damn good.

920
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: And I do like the Dante Devincenzo signing. I know

921
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,919
Speaker 1: you even you know hinted that that's too much money

922
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 1: for Dante DiVincenzo. I know they got a lot of guards,

923
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: but they also couldn't hit a three in the postseason.

924
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: Even with all those guards. This guy can, and I

925
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: think he is getting to his potential here and that's

926
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: that's why the Warriors sign him. I think he was

927
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: good there, but he was forty percent from three in

928
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: the postseason. And yeah, they're small, but he rebounds pretty

929
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: fricking big four and a half boards, you know, in

930
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: limited minutes per game, so he can dish it out.

931
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: But I do think they got to trade a guard

932
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: for a big some way somehow. But I think if

933
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: he's on the team and he's starting instead of Josh Hart,

934
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: this team wins some games. I mean, they just couldn't

935
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: hit a shot. I do believe in this guy that

936
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: he's finally hit his stride here in the NBA.

937
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 3: Aren't the Nicks gonna trade for call Anthony Towns at

938
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 3: some point? Well, that'd be the big name they finally

939
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 3: go and get with that Fournier contract and maybe some

940
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 3: of these some of these guards, because they have a

941
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 3: lot of them. No, I don't hate the you know deal.

942
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 3: I didn't mean to make a face if I did.

943
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 3: For four years fifty million. It is funny that they

944
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 3: just have all these wildcats, Like I really want them

945
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 3: to get mckill bridges complete the entire Villanova championship team.

946
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 3: There somehow get Bridges from the Nets to the Knicks.

947
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 3: I don't think that's likely, but you might as well

948
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 3: while you're at it. I guess Jay Wright, he's always

949
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 3: being linked to being a head coach in the NBA too,

950
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 3: Go get him? Yeah, And any other thoughts on any

951
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 3: of those guys on that board. What do you think

952
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 3: about the Max Struce, I mean, Trey sort of said

953
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 3: he likes it.

954
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, baby, give me Max Struce. I know people are

955
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: questioning Max Strews and whether or not he's a really

956
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: good shooter, because last year during the regular season he wasn't.

957
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: That's a big question. That's a fair question. Is he

958
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: a forty percent shooter like he was two years ago

959
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 1: or is he blow average? He was blow average last year. Yeah.

960
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: I think he'll get back to that forty percent type

961
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: number now that he has to do less. He was

962
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: asked last year. I think we kind of remember the Heat.

963
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: We're a mess during the regular season last year before

964
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: they turned it all over. Yeah, and Strews was doing

965
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: way too much. Now he's going to not handle the

966
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: ball all that much. With Donovan Mitchell and Darius Carlan.

967
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: Can he be a catch and shoot guy? Demn right.

968
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: I think he'll. He'll be great as long as they

969
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: find him. As long as they find him, he will.

970
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: He will hit a lot of shots. And is he

971
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: too small to play with Garland and Mitchell? I don't

972
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: think so. If you can play for the Heat, which

973
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 1: is also too small of a team one through five,

974
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: and you can play defensively, I think you can play

975
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,439
Speaker 1: with this Caves team. I think he'll be real good.

976
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: He'll be their starter and he'll hit plenty of shots.

977
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: It seems like a lot of money, I guess, a

978
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: guy going from the minimum to sixteen, but I think

979
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 1: it'll be worth it.

980
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 3: What do you make of this rumor that the Calves

981
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 3: are potentially looking to trade Jared Allen. They're they're big

982
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 3: man in the middle there buying that at all? Are

983
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,439
Speaker 3: you surprised to see that at all? You think that's

984
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 3: a direction they could explore. What's your take?

985
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 4: I think it's a direction they could and probably should explore,

986
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 4: just because when you look at the personnel on their team,

987
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 4: you know Mitchell's contract with the Calves is coming to

988
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 4: an end, so he's going to be a question mark anyways.

989
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 4: Garland is a young star, you're going to keep him around,

990
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 4: and Evin Mobley is kind of the future of the franchise.

991
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 4: So if you're looking for a player who is young,

992
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 4: who has a little bit of a track record, and

993
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 4: who could return something in a trade, Jared Allen, Jared Allen, sorry,

994
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 4: is definitely the guy, especially because you look at what

995
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 4: happened to the Calves in the playoffs last year. They

996
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 4: got beat by big ball, and they're a team that's

997
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 4: supposed to be good at big ball. So big ball

998
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 4: not necessarily in vogue in the NBA unless you happen

999
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 4: to have one of these MVP guys. So it's kind

1000
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 4: of hard to say, yeah, we're gonna go forward here

1001
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 4: with two non shooters in the lineup. They have to

1002
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 4: be two incredible non shooters, and I think that Mobley

1003
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 4: is and Jared Allen is kind of on the borderline

1004
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 4: of that. So if there is a way for the

1005
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 4: Calves to get better long term, it may be moving him,

1006
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:35,439
Speaker 4: which is why he's the guy in the block.

1007
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you said it there. You almost don't want

1008
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 3: to overreact to Mitchell Robinson definitely getting the best of

1009
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 3: Jared Allen in a playoff series. Like, I mean, I

1010
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 3: guess there's concern it shouldn't have happened. But was it

1011
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,240
Speaker 3: just this weird, you know weird? What was that a

1012
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:52,240
Speaker 3: five a game series?

1013
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 2: Was that?

1014
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 3: Yes, yea, they destroyed them, that's true, Or do you

1015
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 3: like obviously continue to sort of build with the squad

1016
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 3: here that you have he's under con tracked and move forward.

1017
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 3: Maybe that's why he was in these rumors suddenly or

1018
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 3: teams are like, jeez, we'd like Jared Allen as our center,

1019
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 3: as our sort of main guide, not having to do

1020
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 3: a whole lot. It's not like you're gonna give him

1021
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 3: the ball and go get us twenty minor moves. I'm

1022
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 3: gonna throw a ton at you on the graphic. We

1023
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 3: got Mo Wagner going to the Magic or staying in

1024
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 3: the Magic two years, sixteen million dollars, Dwight Powell staying

1025
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 3: with the MAVs three years, twelve million. Jalen McDaniels headed

1026
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 3: to the Raptors. Task Mellos two years, nine point three million.

1027
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 3: Obviously was playing in Philadelphia. Derreck Rose is no longer

1028
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 3: in New York. He's with the Grizzlies. Two years, six

1029
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 3: point five million. We got Oladipot traded from Miami to

1030
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 3: the thunder. We got Monte Morris traded from the Wizards

1031
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 3: to the Pistons. And then look, I got a million

1032
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 3: more for you. Thomas Bryant, he's going to the Heat.

1033
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 3: Small deal. Ty Jerome going to the Cavaliers, small deal.

1034
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 3: Patrick Beverley to the Sixers, Dennis Smith Junior to the Nets,

1035
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 3: along with Lonnie Walker also to the Nets. As we said,

1036
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 3: Alex lenn and the Kings, they agreed to a one year,

1037
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 3: three point two million dollar deal. Patty Mills, I believe

1038
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 3: headed to It's been tough to keep up on where

1039
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 3: Patty's going, but I think he's an Okay, see Cody

1040
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 3: Zeller come and rescue me. He's with the Pelicans justin

1041
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 3: holiday to the Nuggets and Corey Joseph to the Warriors.

1042
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 3: That's all the minor moves. Yes, guys, we were working

1043
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 3: in the Google doc this week, but yes, yeah, start

1044
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 3: with you here. Of all these sort of quote unquote

1045
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 3: minor moves, anything intrigue you.

1046
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: Well, sure the Raptors get Jalen McDaniels. I know Raptors

1047
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 1: fans just want the silver bullet. They're just bagging for

1048
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: the one guy that takes them to the top. That

1049
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: just doesn't happen all that much. So you try to

1050
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: work around the edges. You try and get a guy

1051
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: here who has a lot of promise as a three

1052
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 1: and D guy the game a good deal, but he

1053
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: has a lot of upside. The Philadelphia seventy six ers

1054
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: winning got him at the trade deadline. He played well

1055
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 1: for them. They're trying to shed contract. They're trying to

1056
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 1: figure their spot out. So Raps swoop in here. He's

1057
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: not the silver bullet. But that's not what happens in

1058
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: the NBA. I mean, I know that Raptors fans are

1059
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: just angry. Where is our championship? Oh? Man, man, the

1060
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:17,280
Speaker 1: entitlement on Raptors fans. Just one freaking championship in twenty

1061
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 1: five years, and all of a sudden, we gotta win

1062
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: the freaking thang every year. They're a five hundred team. Yeah. Yeah,

1063
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: Oh well, they got Jail McDaniels, who might be good

1064
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: to be though.

1065
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 3: That's the the anger for Raptors fans, the worst spot

1066
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 3: to be. Bulls are in the same spot. It's like,

1067
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 3: you're not bad enough to get high draft picks and

1068
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 3: you're not good enough to do anything, let alone even

1069
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 3: make the play in tournament in the in both our

1070
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 3: teams cases, Yeah, so but you look sorry they made

1071
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 3: the play in tournament, didn't make the actual playoffs.

1072
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 2: Excuse me?

1073
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,280
Speaker 1: Yes, right, but you look at your digital ticket stub

1074
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 1: and you might see a win tonight instead of god

1075
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: awful basketball games. So I mean, yeah, they sorry. They

1076
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: developed players and now are decent. Yeah, why didn't Kawi

1077
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 1: stick around? What up with that? Think about that one

1078
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: year parade? Bye? That was weird anyway, So they're they're

1079
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,919
Speaker 1: trying that was awesome. It's a boss move.

1080
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was incredible.

1081
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? We traded for Kawhi Leonard and

1082
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 3: what a championship. Also traded for Marcus al Let's not

1083
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 3: forget that.

1084
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 1: I'll never forget Marcus.

1085
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 3: So you liked the Jael McDaniels just.

1086
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: Shot in the dark. I never was a huge Jalen

1087
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: McDaniels fan, but now he's a raptor. Well, I mean

1088
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: it's a it's a decent amount of money for him.

1089
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but they've obviously had him on the on

1090
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: the bolletin board for a while and they said this

1091
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,240
Speaker 1: guy could be another one of our guys who can't shoot.

1092
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: But maybe yeah, but maybe arms.

1093
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 3: That's the bill, perfectly trade all the minor moves. What

1094
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 3: surprised you?

1095
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 4: What?

1096
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 3: Uh?

1097
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: You know?

1098
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 3: Excited you anything?

1099
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 4: Here's my three takeaways. I like Patrick Beverley on the

1100
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 4: seventy six ers. I like somebody to yell at all

1101
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 4: of their guys, sure, most notably Joel Embiid. So I

1102
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 4: think he actually helps there.

1103
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 3: They got two of those guys now took her in Beverly.

1104
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 4: Of respect. That's pretty funny. I'll make sure to subscribe

1105
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:14,399
Speaker 4: to their podcast. Is this the only podcast? I guess

1106
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 4: that's why the seventy six ers had to bring in

1107
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 4: Patrick Beverley, George and Yang a podcaster as well.

1108
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: He left.

1109
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 2: They're like, sorry, we gotta have some podcast.

1110
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 3: Wow, I didn't know nang ed one.

1111
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 2: I think so sure he does, Yeah, very infrequent.

1112
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 3: So you're saying, control the narrative, control the narrative one

1113
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 3: of your players in their podcast.

1114
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 2: It's nice to have a podcaster on your team.

1115
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 4: Like the Bulls had their best stretch when they had

1116
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 4: Patrick Beverley last year was like toshed trash talking the Lakers.

1117
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,919
Speaker 4: It was fun times. So that's cool. Also, I will

1118
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 4: say I'm a minor tied Jerome believer, very minor, very minor. So,

1119
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 4: you know, two and a half million dollars for the Cavaliers.

1120
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,479
Speaker 4: I bet it'll hit a three pointer in the second

1121
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:56,280
Speaker 4: quarter of a game at some point. And then finally,

1122
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 4: I think Mo Wagner got a new nickname, Mo Money.

1123
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1124
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 2: This was a lot. Yeah, congratulations on being Franz Wagner's brother.

1125
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: I would say that's a payday.

1126
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:09,399
Speaker 2: That's a payday right there.

1127
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 4: That is a payday for Mo money Wagner for two years,

1128
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 4: sixteen million. He got in a fight on the bench once.

1129
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 4: Other than that, really, I don't know. I don't know

1130
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 4: if it may have been more than once. Yeah, but

1131
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 4: he hasn't had a lot of notable NBA moments.

1132
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 1: Yeah. You look at that money, and then you look

1133
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: at Dwight Powell that signed for was it four per year? Yeah,

1134
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: that's some damn good value for Dwight Powell. Who might

1135
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: who might be a starter on that Maverick scene. Oh yeah,

1136
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 1: he could play a decent amount. So promising, uh yeah,

1137
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: he might start.

1138
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 2: He still might start.

1139
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, four million, keep signing.

1140
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 2: Everybody who's over seven feet tall. But they gotta keep starting.

1141
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 2: Dwight Powell. Promise is undeniable.

1142
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,720
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Derek Rose, there's a vet around Memphis, Monte Morris,

1143
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: there's a vet for the young guards in Detroit. I

1144
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: guess he replaces Corey Joseph or can aiding guy who's

1145
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: going to the Golden State Warriors to try and get

1146
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 1: a second ring, as like the fourth guard on on

1147
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: a team. Or the fourth point guard, whatever you want

1148
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: to say. I think Thomas Brian will be good with

1149
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 1: the heat. They'll find a way to make him good.

1150
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: They finally got a backup center that's pretty decent over

1151
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: Cody's Eller, no disrespect to him, but Thomas Brian has

1152
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: more potential. And yeah, i'd say the Victor Oladipot move.

1153
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: Oh man, it's over. It feels like for the the

1154
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: for Victor Oladipo just doesn't feel like he's he's going

1155
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 1: to be quite back. He had like a twenty six

1156
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 1: point quarter or something ridiculous this year, but I guess

1157
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: he just can't put it together game to game. But

1158
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,320
Speaker 1: you mentioned sash of v Zankov. Yeah, that's pretty exciting

1159
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:39,399
Speaker 1: for the Sacramento King.

1160
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:39,959
Speaker 3: That's nice.

1161
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: That dude is the Klay Thompson of the NBA. Now,

1162
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 1: I mean he doesn't he I know, it's the lefty

1163
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: Clay Thompson. How about that he doesn't dribble, right, but

1164
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: he shoots dribble. No, No, he was sixty six percent

1165
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: from the field. He's a wing sixty six percent from

1166
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:04,280
Speaker 1: the field in EuroLeague. That's why he was the EuroLeague MVP.

1167
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: Because yeah, you just just let it fly, so you know,

1168
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:10,800
Speaker 1: don't people are saying that it is not a playmaker.

1169
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 1: We need a playmaker. No, you don't let the Aaron

1170
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 1: Fox and Sabonis make every play and pass it to

1171
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 1: that guy. He's not gonna miss. So that's a good,

1172
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: good little risk for six million dollars per year, it's nothing.

1173
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 3: The biggest concern with him is how's he going to

1174
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 3: play with the NBA ball. They don't have that Moulton

1175
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,359
Speaker 3: over here. He might like the grooves of that bom

1176
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 3: A hell of a shooter. He's as a lights out shooter,

1177
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 3: and they obviously believe in him too. I mean, that's

1178
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 3: a three years, twenty million nothing to sneeze at, so

1179
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 3: they see him as a contributing player right away. They

1180
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 3: also got another Canadian, right we I guess we did

1181
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 3: talk about it. We slipped it in on Friday's podcast,

1182
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 3: Chris Duarte. I think that is basically official that he

1183
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 3: will be coming to Sacramento. So them along Treys and

1184
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 3: Trey Lyles keeping him, that's right.

1185
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 1: And Alex lenn game back, yep, yep, yep. In back.

1186
00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 3: Which team is a little difficult. I'm putting you on

1187
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 3: the spot. Which team are you surprised, just like did

1188
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 3: next to nothing in free agency? Or which team come

1189
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 3: to mind, like the Sixers Now A part of that

1190
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 3: probably the the James Harden of it all.

1191
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 2: They've done nothing except Beverly.

1192
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and they trade away George Boston.

1193
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 4: Yang, lost McDaniels, bringing in Beverly Harden is likely leaving.

1194
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 2: It ain't great in Philadelphia right now.

1195
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 4: They really haven't done much, But like you're saying, the

1196
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 4: Harden situation kind of has them just waiting to see

1197
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 4: what happens. And maybe at this point the Clippers deal

1198
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 4: is going to be the best move for them, just

1199
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 4: because it could return a few players rather than just

1200
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 4: one guy for Harden.

1201
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was surprised. See George Yang has hit

1202
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: three hundred threes for them over the last two years.

1203
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: That's a lot of freaking threes. So they're gonna miss

1204
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: You're gonna miss him.

1205
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 3: Sounds like George Yang might be the new Klay Thompson

1206
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 3: of the NBA.

1207
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that, would you say?

1208
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. He said three hundred, You know,

1209
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 3: I think of Clay, I think Curry, But you said

1210
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 3: two years, so he's half of Clay Thompson. How's that?

1211
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 3: And I was going to ask, who are the biggest

1212
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 3: names left? It's not a lot. I mean, it's PJ.

1213
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 3: Washington who's restricted, It's Grant Williams who's restricted. And man,

1214
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 3: you start sort of running out of names after that.

1215
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 3: It feels like those two guys might just switch teams.

1216
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 3: I don't know why.

1217
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 2: Definitely, it's just PJ.

1218
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 5: Washington goes to the Celtics and Grant Williams goes to

1219
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 5: the Hornets. Yes, some other names, Mobamba Okayama. People were

1220
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 5: talking about Mobamba during that Lakers Nuggets series. He might

1221
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 5: come back for Game four? Can you imagine he didn't?

1222
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 5: He did not come back, and he likely is not

1223
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 5: coming back for the Lakers. Honestly, Chicago Bulls bomba number five,

1224
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 5: give him a ring. They could use it, honestly for

1225
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 5: the veteran minimum. There's not a lot of great players

1226
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 5: out there.

1227
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 3: Jay Crowder, No, No, he's Milwaukee.

1228
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 2: He went back to Milwaukee. I would hope. So they

1229
00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 2: traded what five second round? Yes, Christian would probably wood

1230
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 2: guy who's left over?

1231
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 3: That tells you everything you know exactly right?

1232
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1233
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, Sorich, I guess we're still waiting on him to

1234
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 4: go to the Warriors is what he's been linked to.

1235
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 3: Okay, I'd forgotten about Christian Wood.

1236
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 2: Wow, Tory Craig, did he sign anywhere? I don't think so.

1237
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 2: That's a guy that people talk about. Kelly Oubray.

1238
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 4: Did he score twenty points? TJ Warren talk him in,

1239
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 4: talk yourself into him, Justice Winslow, talk yourself into him.

1240
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 1: Oh, Terrence Ross. Probably I guess you said TJ.

1241
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 3: Warren to go back to Uh, Tory Craig. The Pistons

1242
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 3: and Kings, among other teams are interested in him. Okay, Okay,

1243
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 3: so you know, obviously you could help a team. He's

1244
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 3: gonna give you some minutes off the bench. It's not

1245
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 3: gonna be a difference maker. But yeah, my point is

1246
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 3: not a lot left, not a lot at all. So

1247
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 3: we'll see, we'll see where those final few names end

1248
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 3: up here. And we're only what d is this day

1249
00:59:55,360 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 3: four free agency? Yeah, if you count Friday night. Yeah,

1250
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 3: it all depends on all Right, Well, I think we

1251
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 3: went through basically everything you tell us on the stream team.

1252
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 3: If we missed an important name or signing, sorry if

1253
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 3: we did, let's get to tweeted the.

1254
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: Night tweet of the night. Woww yeah, keep.

1255
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 3: It in basketball related for tweeted the night because I

1256
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 3: just wanted to slip this little news in. So I

1257
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 3: am going to give tweet the knight to WOJ at ESPN. Yes,

1258
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 3: at WOJ ESPN, give it a follow. Only six million

1259
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 3: of you do, he tweeted over the weekend. New York

1260
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 3: Knicks guard Josh Hart has committed to the final roster

1261
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 3: spot on the twelve man Team USA. Excuse me, on

1262
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 3: the twelve man team USA Feeble World Cup team this

1263
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 3: summer in the Philippines, sources tel ESPN. He joins his

1264
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 3: next teammate Jalen Brunson on the American team. So Josh

1265
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 3: Hart completes the Team USA Phoebus squad which is later

1266
01:00:55,880 --> 01:01:00,080
Speaker 3: in August early September. That gets underway. The roster you

1267
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 3: want to hear it. Yes, I know I've done this before,

1268
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 3: but now we have it complete. The guards Jayalen Brunson,

1269
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 3: Anthony Edwards, Tyrese Haliburton, and Austin Reeves. The forwards Pello Bancaro,

1270
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 3: McHale Bridges, Josh Hart, Brandon Ingram, Bobby Portis let's call

1271
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 3: him a forward, and Cam Johnson and the Sinners Jared

1272
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 3: Jackson Jr. And Walker Kessler. I turn a day before

1273
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 3: July fourth to American man, and I say, will you

1274
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 3: salute this team or do you poop on this team?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Come on, skeets, of course I have one hundred percent

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Speaker 4: saluting the American Golden medalists here.

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Speaker 2: Really do you think so? I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, look at this experience. I know what

1280
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 4: you're saying, no international experience or any of these guys.

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01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 2: How do they play with the Moulten ball?

1282
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 4: That's really you better order them off Amazon Prime right now.

1283
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 2: Get used to gripping those balls.

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Speaker 4: Boys. Honestly, when you read out the roster, I just

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01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 4: hope Paulo Bonco doesn't get squeezed because that's a guy

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01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 4: I think could be in the running for next Great

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01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 4: American alongside Anthony Edwards.

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01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 2: But there's a lot of there's just a lot of

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01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 2: wings here.

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Speaker 4: I feel like he could be valuable for them as

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01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 4: maybe even almost a backup five playing internationally. He's got

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01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 4: good size and he's a good passer, so I hope

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01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 4: he actually gets a pretty solid run here.

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01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 2: I guess he was the next to last guy added.

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01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 4: But there's gonna be several games We've talked about it

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01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 4: before where the US isn't gonna have the best player

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01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 4: on the floor. I guess it still remains to be

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01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 4: seen who all commits for some of the international teams

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Speaker 4: as well. But there ain't definitely a top dog on

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01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 4: this team right now, so we'll see how that shakes

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01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 4: out long term. I guess Ingram is probably the most

1302
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 4: established star on the team. He's further along in his career.

1303
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 4: He's made an All Star team, so maybe he's the

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01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 4: go to guy. But it definitely feels like that position

1305
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 4: is still to be seized by whoever goes out there

1306
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 4: and takes it.

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Speaker 3: Let's make the starting lineup for Temosa. What would you

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01:02:57,680 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 3: predict it to be in Game one?

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01:02:59,600 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 2: There?

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01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 3: Foeba build it? Who's uh? Who's at the point is it?

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01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 3: Is it Brunson or is it Halliburton as your point

1312
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 3: guard to start the game? And then I'm assuming you

1313
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 3: have Anthony Edwards as your two yes? Okay, So who

1314
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 3: would you start alongside Edwards?

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01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 4: I would maybe go Halliburton, okay, just because of three

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01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 4: point shooting. Okay, Okay, I think he's a better shooter

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01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 4: than Brunson. Isn't he Okay, let's just go.

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01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 3: Let's go Halliburton and Edwards, and then your three are

1319
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 3: your two forwards again, Pello, Michail Bridges, Josh Hart, Ingram,

1320
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 3: Bobby and Camp so Brandon Ingram starting probably, I would.

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01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 2: Think so, yeah, sure probably, and then it's is it? Yeah?

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01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 2: Is it?

1323
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 3: Pelo? Is it Bridges? Is it? That's probably not Portis

1324
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 3: or Cam or Josh Hart. I wouldn't think so. It

1325
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 3: feels like it's Pellow.

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01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 4: Maybe it could be Bridges and Ingram, Ingram is maybe

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01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 4: more so the four.

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01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay? And then uh probably Dre and Jackson

1329
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 3: Junior starting over walking that sound right there?

1330
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Speaker 1: Tasks Yeah, absolutely.

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01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 3: So Halliburton, Anthony Edwards, Let's say bridges In Ingram and

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Speaker 3: then Jared Jackson Jr.

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Speaker 1: A lot of defense.

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01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 3: There's quite a bit of defense, no doubt. But you

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01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 3: got Edwards obviously as your scorer. I'll be interesting to

1336
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 3: see who leads this team scoring. Is it gonna be Ingram?

1337
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:16,919
Speaker 3: Is it gonna be Edwards? Is there any possibilities?

1338
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 1: Pallo?

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01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 3: I don't know. Haliburton maybe probably not, Alibert more of

1340
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 3: a playmaker, set up man. Any thoughts on TESSI.

1341
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 1: Well, one guy that they will be playing against on

1342
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 1: Team Australia also signed a an NBA contract. He's back, baby,

1343
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 1: Dante ExHAM signed with the Mavericks to a guaranteed deal

1344
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 1: as well. Not messing around. He's back. They're gonna throw

1345
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 1: him out there to be that guy who hey, Kyrie, Luca,

1346
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 1: you don't have to guard anybody Exhem scat him because

1347
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 1: he was. He was the hard stopper for a second

1348
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 1: in the postseason back there with Back, then with Utah.

1349
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 1: So nice to see him back.

1350
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 3: Dante back? Was it? He was was? He was a

1351
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 3: five pick pick in the twenty fourteen draft. He's only

1352
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 3: twenty seven. Oh, he's got a birthday coming right up?

1353
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 3: Twenty eight? Almost Wasn't there another Australian that signed that

1354
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 3: came over as well?

1355
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 1: Jack White?

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01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 2: Is it?

1357
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 3: That's right? Is it Jack White?

1358
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, he played for the Nuggets this season.

1359
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 3: Ago, Oh no, no, it's not Jack White. Then I

1360
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 3: don't think anyway, there's another one. And then obviously Jacquelindale

1361
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 3: signing his big deal there with his squad. Okay, there

1362
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 3: you go, tm Osa, salute it, love it, and uh,

1363
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 3: let's see how they do in Feeble World Cup action

1364
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 3: coming up later this week. We probably won't have a

1365
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 3: podcast tomorrow unless Hardin or Lillard gets moves. You know,

1366
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 3: we're not jumping on here to talk about the Chevy tracks. PJ.

1367
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 3: Washington ultimately making a decision, So probably no podcast on Tuesday,

1368
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 3: and then we fly to Vegas on Wednesday. But guess what.

1369
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 3: On Wednesday, we're dropping our Fast Friends podcast reviewing Fast

1370
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 3: X Fast ten, Fasten your seat belts, whatever you want

1371
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 3: to call that damn movie with Vin and Co. We've

1372
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 3: recorded it. We had a blast. It's two hours long.

1373
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 3: Of course, Esh was on at JD Tray, myself and

1374
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 3: Maddio back once again, so we had so much fun

1375
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 3: talking about this ridiculous movie. So our Fast X Fast

1376
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 3: Friends coming up Wednesday morning at nine am Easter. We'll

1377
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 3: drop that on YouTube and in your podcast feed, and

1378
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 3: then again Saturday coming up here July eighth, four pm

1379
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 3: local time in Vegas. Come kick it with us at

1380
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 3: the bet MGM Sportsbook at the MGM Grand a little

1381
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:37,959
Speaker 3: No Dunks Slash Athletic NBA Show meet and great. Can't

1382
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 3: wait for that. We also were planning to have a

1383
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 3: podcast on the Friday night after we watch Wemenyama hopefully

1384
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 3: play in that first game at Summer League, and maybe

1385
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 3: there's some other moves to talk about, some transactions. So

1386
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 3: we'll have a couple of podcasts for you this week,

1387
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 3: like I said, fast Friends, then probably one from Summer

1388
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 3: League later and then yeah, we'll figure it out from there.

1389
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 3: But everyone, thanks for joining us here. Clever bros, you

1390
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 3: heard it here first. Have a great time, turn up.

1391
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 3: Love you guys awesome.

1392
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, and remember to pack all your

1393
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 1: tank tops for Dante's Inferno this weekend. It's kind of

1394
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 1: hot there.

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Speaker 3: Embrace the day, people,