1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, January six. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. 2 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hours presented by Fields Auto Group and now 3 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: a guy who just declared for the draft or Stout 4 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: hale I P. A. Pilsner, J. P. Shat Rick, all 5 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: of the above Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour on this Wednesday, 6 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: presented by the Fields Auto Group, JP. Shadrick. Bucky Brooks 7 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: coming up. We have a busy, busy, busy show. There's 8 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: a lot going on around Jaguars landed this week. Will 9 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: here from Bucky coming up in a moment shot con 10 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: setting the course for the week's ahead. We'll take a 11 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: look at some of the comments from the Jaguars owner 12 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: earlier this week. General manager candidates, that list continues to build, 13 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: as does the head coaching candidate list as well. Franchise 14 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: quarterback mentioned by Mr Khan a handful of times in 15 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: his comments Monday, and one of those potential draftees has 16 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: declared for the NFL Draft. Will get into that, and yes, 17 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: social questions. We put out the bat signal earlier today 18 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: and we've got some submissions that we will get to. 19 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: John oser out today. He'll be back with us in 20 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: the near future. And Bucky Brooks is with us today 21 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, and a lot going on around the 22 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: Jaguars this week. Bucky gm search continues, the head coaching 23 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 1: list rows shot cons spoke, the quarterbacks come out of Clemson. 24 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: Here we go. We're off and running. We are often 25 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: running one. And the Jaguars can be excited about what 26 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: the future should bring about. And so it starts were 27 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: hiring a general manager and a head coach and then 28 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: beginning to attack the draft and free agency and all 29 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: those things. And so even though twenty this season was horrible, 30 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: I think they're any of reasons to be optimistic about 31 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: the future. And by the way, Tony Basselli named the 32 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame finalists, absolutely that that was terrific. Teammate 33 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: Tony Basselli is one of the final fifth team. We'll 34 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: see if he's able to get in. January nineteenth is 35 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: the date the selectors will meet, not the day before 36 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. They'll do it virtually this year. And 37 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 1: normally that would be a headline the top story of 38 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: Basselli's a finalist. With all this happening, it is not, 39 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: but congratulations to Tony. Certainly our colleague here on Jaguars 40 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: Happy Hour on Mondays and Thursdays, and of course Jaguars 41 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: radio analysts. Let's get to it. Let's start off, Bucky 42 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: with the comments of Shot con this week. We'll break 43 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: down a few different points today from the Jaguars owner. 44 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: And you know, he relieved Doug Moronov's duties about nine 45 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: o'clock on Monday morning on Black Monday, and then ten 46 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: thirty or so met the media to discuss the football 47 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: matters moving ahead. First off, he talked about what he's 48 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: looking for in head coach and GM candidates, and you'll 49 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: see it on your screen here the full uh comment 50 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: and the one that the part of this Bucky that 51 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: I take out the most is a proven leader who 52 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: understands not only the basics football, the blocking and tackling, 53 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:14,399 Speaker 1: but more importantly modern football, the new football, but handling 54 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: the twenty first century athlete. At the same time, we 55 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: know what happened around here the last couple of years 56 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: where some of the twenty first century athletes that were 57 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: here didn't want to be here anymore. That whole mindset 58 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: has to change, and Mr Connor, I think, really kind 59 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: of set the tone for what he's looking for and 60 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: that's a big piece of it relating to this type 61 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: of player in in this world frame right now. Yeah, Look, 62 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: the head coaching job is so much more than just 63 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: calling plays and being a guy who has an expertise 64 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: when it comes to xs and ohs. It is a 65 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: communication deal. It's a job that you have to be 66 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: our relationships. You have to convince uh phitty three people 67 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: to get moving in the right direction. And so it's 68 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: really important that when you are looking and examining and 69 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: determining which head coaching candidate is the right one, is 70 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: that he is able to check off a bunch of boxes. 71 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: He's a leader, he's organized, He's able to really articulate 72 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: a clear plan for how this team is going to 73 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: play in the players that he wants on the team. 74 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: He's able to challenge players while also encouraging them and 75 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: getting them to believe into the culture of the program. 76 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: And then it's about his ability to solve problems that 77 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: come along each and every season, because it's inevitable you 78 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: have to get through some things to be able to advance. 79 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: And so I believe Shotgun is better equipped to get 80 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: the head coach right this time because he's gone through it. 81 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: He's seen it, he's been able to observe it, and 82 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,799 Speaker 1: he understands the way that the football world has changed 83 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: as it relates to the athlete. This will be the 84 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: fourth head coach under his ownership coming up. That's since 85 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: that is quite a bit of change. Of course, like 86 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: Mlarkey had one yearlve Gus Bradley had a handful of years, 87 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: Doug Maron just finished his fourth your plus so plenty 88 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: of changes there and in three different ways to really 89 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: go about it. Three different personalities of head coaches in 90 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: those three Bucky, Yeah, three different personalities and you know, um, 91 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: they come in different sizes and shapes and leadership styles 92 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: and those things. But I I feel like what Chad 93 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: wants to do is do a reset on the entire 94 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: franchise and make sure that we have a very positive, 95 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: um and encouraging franchise, one that really represents the franchise 96 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 1: in the city well. And then I think when it 97 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: comes to the head coach, I think he wants to 98 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: kind of have that buzzer, that energy like we see 99 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: it sometimes when we watch other teams, we see the 100 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: energy that they have, And I think the main thing 101 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: is what is our culture? Who are we What are 102 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: the Jaguars about? And is that I guess what we 103 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: are about doesn't reflect the city. And it's one of 104 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: those things where it's a bid job. It's a job 105 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: that I think the coach needs to be mature. He 106 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: needs to have a proven plan, a plan that maybe 107 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: we've already seen play out once before, so we don't 108 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: have to kind of go through some of these growing 109 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 1: pains that we've seen others endoor where they're trying to 110 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: build up their franchises. It's very rare when you have 111 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: a true blank slate as an NFL organization, and that's 112 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: exactly what this is for shot Con new GM new 113 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: head coach, number one overall pick. There's not a franchise 114 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: quarterback in place, and you can really it is as 115 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: blank of a slate as you can find in the 116 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: National Football League. That doesn't really happen too often. No, 117 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't happen. But here's what we'll see as we 118 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: look at the playoffs, because I think there's a lot 119 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: to be gleamed from the teams that are in the postseason. 120 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: We obviously want to be in the postseason. We want 121 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: to be a team that is consistently in the tournament. 122 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: And so if you look at the teams that are there, 123 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: it's not a coincidence that you see a level coaches 124 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: with a level quarterbacks. And so Sean has an opportunity 125 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: to get uh five star coach and with a five 126 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: star quarterback and build a team around those two people. 127 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 1: And so this is a great opportunity for the Jaguars 128 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: to really bounce back, kind of reinvent themselves and become 129 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: a team that is parentally in the postseason and talked 130 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: about as one of the best teams in the league. 131 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: J P Shadrick Blucky Brooks Jaguars Happy Hour presented by 132 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: the Fields Auto Group. And now another comment from Jaguars 133 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: owner's shot com about the time frame of these hires 134 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: and the flow charts, and this is quite interesting. It's 135 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: what has been happening the last year or so around 136 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: here where the GM and the head coach would report 137 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: to shot con equally and separately. And you see on 138 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: your screen there some of the reasoning behind that from 139 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: the Jaguars owner. You have the transparency and the needs 140 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: and concerns of both parties without getting filtered or a 141 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: chain of command. And basically he said a little later 142 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: when it comes to the decision maker and of the 143 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: hiring process and all that. Well, you're looking at him 144 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: and shot Gun was the only one on the screen. So, um, 145 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: what do you think of this set up in the 146 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: flow chart of things here? How many other organizations do 147 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: it like this? Well, I mean, I think you want 148 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: to do it like that. When you're the owner, everything 149 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: needs to run past you, particularly the big decisions. And 150 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: so um, I think what shot is doing is he's 151 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: making sure that he is very, very involved in the 152 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: product and what the product looks like going forward. And 153 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: so we talked about culture and we're here. Culture talked 154 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: about a number of times as we continue to go 155 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: through this process with coaches and general managers. But what 156 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: Shod wants to do is he wants to impress upon 157 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: the general manager and the head coach what the expectations 158 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: are when it comes to who the Jaguars are and 159 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: what they represent. Now, as a general manager and a coach, 160 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: you have the freedom to kind of do that within 161 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: your own style, but there's a certain few there are 162 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: few traits that this team must exhibit. When I watched 163 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: him play out, and he wants to be Um intimately 164 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: involved in that, and he should as the owner of 165 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: a bill you know, all the team now, Bucky. A 166 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 1: lot of folks when Mr Khan was talking on Monday 167 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: reacted when he said, yeah, I'm I'm involved. I want 168 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: to be. There was a commentary earlier in his comments 169 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: about his involvement in the process and the football process, 170 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: and a lot of people took that as, Oh, my goodness, 171 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: he's Jerry Jones. He's going to run everything. He's picking 172 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: guys and all that. And later in that video conference 173 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: he explained a little more in depth about his role here. 174 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: It's more of an overseer. If big moves are to happen, 175 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: he's to be involved and and have a final say 176 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: in things. And that might have, for lack of a 177 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: better term, not slipped past the goalie in years past, 178 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: maybe some of the smaller deals contracts. Well, the buck 179 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: is gonna stop with Shod Khan, no matter what. Now, 180 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: it's not. This is not a Jerry Jones situation though, 181 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: where Mr Jones is all over everything. No, I don't 182 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: think it's that. But I would say, based on my 183 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: experiences in dealing with it in Carolina when I was 184 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: with the Carolina Panthers. Mr Richardson was very involved. Um, 185 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: it had to run past Mr Richardson when it was 186 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: a big decision, whether it's a big free agent signing 187 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 1: or the top draft picks and who we're bringing in, 188 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: like you had to run it past. And because there's 189 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: certain things and standards that the owner wanted from the 190 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: players that really occupied those prominent roles as a marquee 191 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: free agent or the face of the franchise or whatever. 192 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: And so I think what Shot is doing is after 193 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: being in the league for a number of years, I 194 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: think he has a better understanding of the league of 195 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: running a team, and he wants to make sure that 196 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 1: he puts his fingerprints on this franchise, the way this 197 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: team plays and the way they've represent the community. Because 198 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: it's been a long time since the Jaguars had been 199 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: consistent winners. He wants to get back to that. Well, 200 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: the one of the quickest ways to become a consistent 201 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: winner is to find a franchise quarterback. And Mr Khan 202 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: numerous times in his comments made that point on Monday, 203 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: and you know that obviously shows that he knows exactly 204 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: the route that he wants to go early in this draft, 205 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: and you know it wasn't just a one time all. 206 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: We need a franchise quarterback, he explained for eight years, 207 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: this franchise has not had one the last eight years. 208 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: To see at the bottom of your screen there, it's 209 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: very very important. Earlier in his comments, um, you know 210 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,719 Speaker 1: what's evaded the Jaguars has been a franchise quarterback, and 211 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: they have the ability now to make that choice, and 212 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: it's going to define the franchise moving forward. If there 213 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: was any if there was any doubt what the Jaguars 214 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: are doing at number one, first off, you haven't been listening. Second, 215 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: that should be gone now after these comments. Yeah, I 216 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: think I think it's it's regularly apparent. I talked about 217 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: it earlier. There's not a coincidence that the teams that 218 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: are in the playoffs half franchise quarterbacks. Every team, with 219 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 1: the exception of maybe the Chicago Bears, has someone that 220 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: you really feel great about being your franchise quarterback. And 221 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: so it is important that you get the right head coach, 222 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: you pay them. With the right quarterback, your chances of 223 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: entering the tournament each and every year they go up. 224 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 1: Now you have to build around them. You gotta put 225 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: the defense and the weapons around them on offense to 226 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: make your work. But it is a lot easier when 227 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: you know that you have uh an elite coach and 228 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: you surround them or pair them with an elite quarterback. 229 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: And I think in this draft there's someone that has 230 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: at the top of the draft that's certainly has the 231 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: bubility to be elite quarterback in this league for a 232 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: long time. That is a professional segue into our next 233 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: thought about quarterbacks and one in particular that has declared 234 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: for the NFL Draft. This morning, Trevor Lawrence out of 235 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: Clemson University is leaving. He's going to the NFL Draft. 236 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: In a really well crafted video this morning, by the way, 237 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: on social media, you see his numbers in his college career. 238 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: Sixty passer over ten thousand yards in three seasons. That's 239 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: pretty decent touchdown to interception ratio as well, ninety touchdown, 240 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: seventeen picks, and he scored eighteen touched hounds on the ground. 241 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy runner up this year. He has been the 242 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: um pretty much consensus number one pick for the last 243 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: couple of years in NFL talking circles. Well, now we're 244 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 1: just a few months away. It seems bucky from that 245 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: becoming reality. Yeah. Absolutely, And I think this is a 246 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: perfect guy to usher in a new era of Jaguars football. 247 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: And we can talk about the talent because he is everything. 248 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: I mean, he is a five star playmaker. He has 249 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: a big time arm, he's athletic, he can make every 250 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: throw that you want to see, and he still can 251 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: play in a new school style. And then he is 252 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: the what I'll call the epitome of a leader. He 253 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: is a guy who rallies his teammates together. We saw 254 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: the initiative and the leadership ability that he just played 255 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: this spring when it came to trying to get his 256 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: team back to playing and handling some of the things 257 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: that were going on around the country, he stepped up 258 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: and he did that. And so when I think about 259 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: the face of the franchise and what you want to 260 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: entrust uh that to in terms of your franchise, quarterback 261 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence embodies all of those things. Very mature. Football 262 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: is important. He loves it and he loves the game 263 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 1: as much as the head coaching everybody around him loves 264 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: the game. And so I mean, you talk about hitching 265 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,479 Speaker 1: your wagon to someone who really can bring the Jaguars 266 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: back to prominence. Trevor Lawrence is is the right quarterback 267 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: to go after but Bucky. But the All States Sugar 268 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: Bowl the other night this past Friday, you know, that's 269 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: the argument. A lot of people said all Fields might 270 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: have gotten closer to him, and you had said this 271 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: a few weeks back. The Fields was closer to Lawrence 272 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: and a lot of people were giving him credits for. 273 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: And we saw in that game in New Orleans on 274 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: Friday night what Justin Fields can do. Not only the numbers, 275 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: which are fantastic obviously look at him right here, six 276 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: touchdown passes, my goodness, but the way they came, the 277 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: way he played that game, after taking the shot in 278 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: the ribs and fighting through it getting back. I'm sure 279 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: he was shot up with something. But either way, he's 280 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: back in the game, fighting through for his team. Um, 281 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: did he Did he close the gap for you? Or 282 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: is the jury out or is it just too far 283 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: gone that Trevor is the guy? No? No, I think 284 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: these guys have always been really really close, right, And 285 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: I think that if you go back and track their 286 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: history from the time they were in high school all 287 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: the way up. Uh, they've always been number one and 288 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: number two, and it's always been. It's been flip flops. 289 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: Sometimes Fields has been one, sometimes Lawrence has been one. 290 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: I think the differences in this situation in Jacksonville, Trevor 291 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: Lawrence has played three years. When you look at the 292 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: amount of throws, Trevor Lawrences maybe even dred throws compared 293 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: to Justin Fields five fifty five eight, and so he said, 294 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: double the amount of starts, doubled amount of reps when 295 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: it comes to throwing the ball in game action. And 296 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: I just think in Jacksonville, Trevor works. I just think 297 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: the maturity and exactly what shot Kun had outlined in 298 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: terms of a franchise quarterback. There are no questions or 299 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: reservations about Trevor Lawrence. And I'm not saying that there 300 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: are questions about Justin Fields. I just believe right now, 301 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is a brand name, something that you can 302 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: kind of trust because we've seen him perform on the 303 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: big stage. He's done it for a long time. He 304 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: exhibits all the qualities that you want. I don't believe 305 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: you want to overthink this. I think Trevor Lawrence is 306 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: to pick for the Jags. The question is does Justin 307 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: Fields go right after him to the jetted too, because 308 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: I think he is certainly worthy of being the next 309 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: guy off the board. Alright, the conversation is off and running, 310 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: and it is only going to build up as we 311 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: move along. I'm sure when we come back, though, we'll 312 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: start the conversation about the GM candidates that have been reported. 313 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: We've talked about this on the show in the past. 314 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: Some of those guys that have been listed will add 315 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: to that list a little later. Head coaching talking, including 316 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: a certain former Ohio State in Florida head coach that 317 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: has been rumored around the Jaguars as well. We'll take 318 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: your social questions as well. Coming up, and we're off 319 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: and running. It's a Wednesday edition of Jaguars Happy Hour, 320 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: presented by the Fields Auto Group on the Jaguars Digital Network. 321 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: Jaguar is Happy Hours, presented in part by t i A, 322 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: a bank created to serve, built to perform, Publix where 323 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 1: shopping is a pleasure and Baptist Health changing healthcare for good. 324 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: You can step up to luxury now. 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We're streaming all over the place. 356 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: You were on um Jags Twitter, We're on Jack's Facebook, 357 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: We're on Jaguars YouTube and I was told during the 358 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: break we had a comment I think on the YouTube 359 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: page that the Jags should draft Jack Wilson number one. 360 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: I mean, Zack Wilson is a good player, but I 361 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: wouldn put with Zack Wilson in the same category as 362 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. And I think this is a unique year 363 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 1: where we have a bunch of really good quarterbacks that 364 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: she'd be able to pop right away. But Trevor Lawrence 365 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: is different um compared to Zack Wilson. Trevor Lawrence has 366 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: been forced to play on a big stage his entire time, 367 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: his entire career, he has been up on the scope 368 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,479 Speaker 1: and he has thrived under that intense scrutiny. I think 369 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: for Zack Wilson, Zack Wilson kind of flew under the 370 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: radar and kind of this year was the year that 371 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: he emerged. Really good player, terrific arm talent, has the 372 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: athleticism that you like. But I think it's a little 373 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 1: bit of a friends between Trevor Lawrence and Zack Wilson. 374 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: That's why I would take Trevor Larns. They'd have to 375 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 1: check his learners permit at the combine to make sure 376 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: he's eligible to He just looks like a really young guy. Yeah, 377 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 1: he looks young. He has a boy's face, but he's 378 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: a talented prospect. I think we could see three quarterbacks 379 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: go bang Bay Bang at the top of the draft, 380 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: but the first one to go, she'd be number sixteen 381 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: for Clempson. Trevor Larrence, because I think he is a 382 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 1: difference maker. Here's someone that has the ability to reverse 383 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: the fortunes of the franchise. Not completed by himself, but 384 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: with his talent in his presence, he shortly can help 385 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: this franchise go a long ways towards back to respectability 386 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 1: and beyond. All Right, Bucky, let's get into the general 387 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: manager candidate list. There have not been a lot of 388 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:47,360 Speaker 1: changes since we last went through the list. We've discussed Bulky, 389 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: Jerry Reese, Lewis Riddick, and Rick Smith. But the two 390 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: additions since then, at least via reports a Ray Farmer, 391 00:20:55,760 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: former Brown's GM, and Terry Fontino from the New Orleans. 392 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: So let's start with Farmer. What's his story? Okay, so 393 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: Farmer Ray, and I go all the way back to 394 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: UH College. He played a duke, spent three or four 395 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: years in the National Football League, has really worked his 396 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: way up the ladder. Had an opportunity to be the 397 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: general manager for the Browns. It was brief, but what 398 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 1: I will say is he is an outstanding football mind 399 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: and he also gets what I call the New Age 400 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: way of scouting, so a mix of analytics and being 401 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: able to bring all of that stuff in when it 402 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: comes to that while retaining the ability for the desire 403 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: to want to play old school physical football, and so 404 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,239 Speaker 1: second time around, giving a full opportunity to do it. 405 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: I certainly think that he can succeed, and I think 406 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: he understands what it takes to be able a successful 407 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: franchise because he's been around the right influencers who should 408 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: enable him to get the form that that that football 409 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: vision for how you want this franchise to play out 410 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: and be successful in the a f C South. I've 411 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: seen a lot of people though, pointing to his draft 412 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: record in Cleveland and some of the players that he 413 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: selected while he was in charge there, And you know, 414 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 1: what do you make of all that? Is that overblown someone? No? 415 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's a part of your record. 416 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: I think that's a part of your history. Sometimes, um, 417 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: those things don't go And I think it's important to 418 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 1: kind of frame the context of the draft, like we're 419 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: lucky if we hit on fifth percent of the guys 420 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: that we take in the draft, particularly in the first round, 421 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,959 Speaker 1: and then it goes down by about ten percent with 422 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: each subsequent round. And so with Ray, like, yeah, you 423 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 1: have to look at some of these guys and look 424 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: at some of those that were drafted, and then also 425 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 1: understand how much did ownership play, particularly in those first 426 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: first round, those first picks. Did Ray actually get a 427 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 1: chance to pull the trigger or was that an ownership decision? 428 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: And so, yeah, it's on his record. It has to 429 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: be discussed. But I think sometimes guys can learn a 430 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: lot from the mistakes that make when it comes to 431 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: selecting players. Wasn't that the story that the Brown's owner 432 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: was told on the way in that day, Hey, you 433 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: need to draft johnny Man's by somebody on the street, right, Yes, yeah, 434 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: that that that has something to do with like you 435 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 1: talk about it, and it didn't go well, and I 436 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: think he was drafted over the objections of some others 437 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: that were in the building, the coach, the general manager, 438 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 1: scouting staff. And sometimes you know, if ownership wants something 439 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: to happen, then you have to go with that and 440 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: try and support the player the best that you can. Yeah, 441 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: but Ray, it has to be talked about. But there 442 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: are a lot of guys who will come in an 443 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: interview who have had some issues and some failures when 444 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: it comes to free agent signings and draft picks. And well, 445 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: if you have, you haven't been an executive. Everybody has failure, 446 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: I mean everybody. There's no perfect way to do it. 447 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: I think the bigger thing is can the candidate clearly 448 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 1: articulate the vision for the team and what he wants 449 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: to build. Can he give you a plan for how 450 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: to build this team up? Is he someone who can 451 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: work with a coach too, kind of create a cooperation 452 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: that enables two people to kind of build this thing 453 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 1: together and move forward. And so it is one of 454 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: those things that sometimes you know so much more the 455 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: second time around than the first time around. I think 456 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: it would be better equipped to handle the responsibilities this 457 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: time around, all right. And the other name, Terry Fontino, 458 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: has been with the Saints for sixteen years and a 459 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: number of different capacities, the most recently as director of 460 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 1: Pro Scouting. So he's a Saint through and through. This 461 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: will be his first shot at the big chair. Yeah, 462 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: it will be his first shot at the big chair. 463 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: But I would say if you looked at how the 464 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: Saints had played the last ten or so years, particularly 465 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: once Drew Brees came on, they've been a consistent team, 466 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 1: a team that is always in the mix. And if 467 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 1: you look at the most recent version of the Saints. 468 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: They've nailed it in the draft. And even though he 469 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 1: was on the pro side, he has worked hand in 470 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: hand with Jeff Arland, who was one of the best 471 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: in the business when it comes to selecting players, and 472 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: so I think he understands what it looks like, what 473 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: it should feel like in building a championship team. And 474 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: then it's about surrounding himself with enough football minds that 475 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: enable him to take that plan that he creates and 476 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: put it in the action. Okay, Bucky, the GM talk 477 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: is done for now. Those are the two latest editions, 478 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: and we'll see if any more names pop up in 479 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: the coming days. But that is a pretty sizeable lists 480 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: so far. We'll come back making a sizable lists the 481 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: head coaching candidates, boy, that has blown up in the 482 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: last week or so. We'll get to those when we 483 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 1: come back. And this is Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by 484 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: the Fields Auto Group on the Jaguars Digital Network. 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Glad you're along with us today. 521 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: There's a lot of noise around, of course, the Jaguars 522 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: head coaching gig that opened on Monday and Jaguar's owners 523 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: Shot con I was asked about the Urban Meyer rumors 524 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: on Monday and said, you know, I've known Urban for 525 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: a long time around the big tent. Mr CON's a 526 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 1: big supporter at Illinois, of course, and um, you know 527 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: he said that he had not talked to anyone about 528 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: the job because there was not a job yet. Doug 529 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 1: Moron was still the head coach. And as you see 530 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 1: in your screen here, these are the reported names that 531 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: have interviewed or are slated to interview with the Jacksonville Jaguars. 532 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: Let's start with Urban. That's the biggest name, at least 533 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: in the last few days around this Jaguars organization and 534 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: the opening at head coach. And you know, it's the 535 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 1: flashiest of the names. Bucky. I'll say that it would 536 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: be a huge jump to go to the NFL. But 537 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 1: as we've talked about before, he has built programs in 538 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 1: a number of different places at so many different levels 539 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: of college football and has done it time and time again. 540 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: Can that translate as a program builder in the NFL? Yeah, 541 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: I can't translate as a program builder because you've done 542 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: it before. You understand what it's like to take teams 543 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: that are down and kind of revitalized him. He did 544 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: it at Bold and Green, he turned around Utah, he 545 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: turned around Florida, and he took Ohio state to a 546 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: national title. So he has a proven formula that works. Now, 547 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: I will say this, the pro game is completely different 548 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: than the college game. But players are players, and it's 549 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: a people business. And can you enlighten, motivate and inspire 550 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: those guys to to to get them to play for 551 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: the team and to play at a higher level. He's 552 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: proven to be able to do that. That said, there's 553 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: some things that need to come along with urban for 554 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: this to be able to work. He has to be 555 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: able to identify and experience personnel man that can help 556 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: him uh with the draft and free agency and identifying 557 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: the right players to play the way that he wants 558 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: to play. He has to build relationships with coaches to 559 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: have the right coaches that understand the pro game in 560 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: relations to because different than college and so you have 561 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: to make sure that he has those things. And then 562 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: the final thing, and maybe the most important thing, is 563 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: how long is he committed to the process. How long 564 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: is he willing to endure maybe some of the rough 565 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: patches that you have to endure to get to the 566 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: other side. He has been wanted to kind of do 567 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: it quickly then get out. If I'm shot, Kahn, I 568 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: need assurances that he's going to be here for a while, 569 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: because you don't want to be right back in this 570 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: search to three years down the line because urban Meyer 571 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: decides two or three n I'm I'm ready to move 572 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: on to something else right now. That's um, that's what 573 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: the interview processes for. And there are reports out there 574 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: that maybe he'll report our interview later in the week. 575 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,959 Speaker 1: I didn't see the exact day though, but apparently that 576 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: process is starting. We see numbers thrown around there, and 577 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: then it was disputed by your guy. Rappaport was like, oh, 578 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: it's not that number, so who knows. Yeah, but but 579 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: the number has to be hot because if if I'm 580 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: urban Mind, just looking at it, Matt Rule commanded maybe 581 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: nine million dollars from the Carolina Panthers annually. Matt Rule 582 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: doesn't have any rings or shiny things or any hardware 583 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: in his office, and so if I'm herbant, may I 584 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: can't go in for less than that. And then you 585 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: factor in a year and inflation and then cost of 586 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: living a right there, JP, we're at eleven and twelve 587 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: million dollars. So that's how you end up getting to 588 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: that number. It's not like he has many flashy things 589 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: from college either rule you know. I mean, it's like 590 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: he doesn't have anything, so I can I can imagine 591 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: that Urban's representatives would look at that and say, I mean, 592 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: that's a nice starting point, but we have so much 593 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: more on the resume that we command a little more. 594 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: All right. A few other of these other names that 595 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: have popped up in the last few days. Eric B. 596 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: Enemy apparently reportedly interviewed today with not only the Jaguars, 597 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: but the Jets, And I think he's on most every 598 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: team's radar that has an opening this year. And the 599 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: Enemy has been a hot name for the last couple 600 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: of years, obviously with the Chiefs success on the offensive 601 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: side of the football, and it seems like he's going 602 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: to get a shot somewhere this year. Why should it 603 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: be here for B Enemy? Well, I mean one, I 604 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: think he's very, very intrigued by the job. To When 605 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: I think about Eric B. Enemy, he's a leader. He's 606 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: a natural leader. He's a guy that really commands the room. 607 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: He does a really good up in terms of getting 608 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: guys to play at at at a very high level. 609 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: If you look at the track record of the guys 610 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: that have been under his direction. They have all played 611 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: really well, going all the way back to Adrian Peterson, 612 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: Jamal Charles and Kent City the running backs that they've 613 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: been able to throw in there and have success. And yes, 614 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: he is the offensive coordinator, and we can talk about 615 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: Andy Reid calling the plays, but every b enemy deals 616 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: with the quarterback. We've seen Pat Mahomes play at a 617 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: high level, and so I think he is the right 618 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: mix in terms of being able to challenge players but 619 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: bring out that confidence and that excellence in them. And 620 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: I think he also understands how to build the entire team, 621 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: because yes, he says going all the way back to 622 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: college in Colorado on the Bill McCartney on the national title, 623 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: so he understands what the championship team looks like. I 624 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: said a couple other of these guys while we're here 625 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: today with you, Bucky, And you know, we know Robert 626 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: Solo well around here. He was on the defensive coaching 627 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: staff here a few years now, the forty Honors defensive coordinator. 628 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: And he was in the interview rounds last year, the 629 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: interview for the Browns for sure, and probably a couple 630 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: of other teams if I can't remember. Executive they are, 631 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: So he's back in that process again this year. It 632 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: feels like he's gonna get a gig at least somewhere. 633 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: Arthur Smith is on every single team that has an opening. 634 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: He's getting an interview. I don't you know, maybe the 635 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: enemy will be on every list, but on every single 636 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: list is fairly rare too. Yeah, Arthur Smith is a 637 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: good one. And and and here here's why. One. He's 638 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: a tar heel, so I always have to support and endorse, 639 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: but I would say this, his story is really unique. 640 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: His dad, for As Smith is obviously the founder and 641 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: owner of FedEx. But Arthur has never utilized dad to 642 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: kind of make his mark in football. He has been 643 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: a guy that has worked on both sides of the ball. 644 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: He was Gregg Williams, the former defense coordinator for the Jaguars. 645 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: He was his defensive quality control guy in Washington, followed 646 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: into Tennessee, moved over to offense, went from tight ends 647 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: coach to offensive coordinator, and you look at how this 648 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans offense has rolled. Ryan Tannehill has played at 649 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl level after struggling during his time in Miami. 650 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry has become a monster that we talked about 651 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: having a two thousand yard season and being a head 652 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 1: coach isn't necessarily about how they call played previously, but 653 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: I think his resume would suggest that he has a 654 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: level of adaptability and experience in terms of finding ways 655 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 1: to put guys in positions to succeed, and a lot 656 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: of what you're doing as a head coach on both 657 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: sides of the ball is can I put my guys 658 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: in the best position to succeed and lead them into 659 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: this game and find a way to win it. And 660 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 1: I think Arthur has shown that he can do it, 661 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: particularly based on what he's done on offense. Mr Cohn 662 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: said this week that there's not really a timetable. They'll 663 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: just do the due diligence on all these interviews and 664 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: whenever they happen, they'll happen pretty quick in uh together, 665 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: so either the head coach first and the GM or 666 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: the GM coach within a day or two, and so 667 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: they're kind of tied to game come again. The only 668 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 1: the only thing about that approach, especially when it comes 669 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: to the head coach, the longer that you wait on 670 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,399 Speaker 1: the head coach, the hard it is to assemble an 671 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: a level staff. The first team to get in, they 672 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: have all the opportunity to get all the available coordinators 673 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 1: and position coaches. As you continue to wait, I'm not 674 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 1: saying you pick in the bottom of the barrel, but 675 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: you're certainly not getting all of the available talent that 676 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 1: is available in the coaching rates. So if you can 677 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 1: find your guy earlier, it gives you an advantage to 678 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 1: build the best staff that you can build. Then you're 679 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: going if if you're later than, you're going to plan B, 680 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 1: plan C. And of course you would never say that publicly, 681 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: but that's kind of the way. And hey, let's come back. 682 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 1: We've got social questions and and one GM opening is 683 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 1: already filled in the National Football League and it's in 684 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: the a f C South and it has a Patriots 685 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: field to it. We're back in a moment. 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Though in 721 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: the a f C south of Houston, Texans had a 722 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: GM and coach opening. Nick cassire Areo is the hier 723 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 1: at GM. He is out of the New England Patriots. 724 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: Jack Easterby was involved in the hiring process down there 725 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: in Houston, formerly of the New England Patriots. Apparently the 726 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 1: corn Ferry Search firm was involved, but I'm not sure 727 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 1: if Casirio was on that list or not. Bucky, how 728 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: about this higher in Houston. What do you make of Well, 729 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's more of the same in 730 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 1: Houston because Bill O'Brien came also out of that system. 731 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,320 Speaker 1: There were other guys that have been in that system 732 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: that we're part of the Texans, and so I don't 733 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 1: know how much it changes. Then. I think it's a 734 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: little surprising that Nick wasn't on corn Ferries list, but 735 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: he somehow not only isn't with anybody isn't with the job. 736 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: And so it's it's one of those things. And so 737 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,840 Speaker 1: now with the Texas, who is the coach? Is he 738 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 1: going to bring in someone who also has ties to 739 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: the Patriots That would be Josh McDaniels or Brian daball 740 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,919 Speaker 1: Um and and and so now I just wonder how 741 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 1: much different is this program then it was under Bill O'Brien. Normally, 742 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 1: when teams change and change the football's are or the 743 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 1: head coach, they look to go a different direction. But 744 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans are kind of doing the same thing. 745 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 1: And we'll see if it works out better for them. 746 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 1: We'll see. It's a big hill to climb down in Houston. 747 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: No draft picks. Um, they do have the quarterback who 748 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 1: led the League in passing yardage this year. And that's 749 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: about it. There's not a lot about it in Houston 750 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 1: these days. Hey, let's get to social media questions. We 751 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 1: haven't done that on this show right now. We would 752 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 1: put out that we put them out this morning. Here's 753 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,880 Speaker 1: what we come up with today from Adam Darry eleven. 754 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,799 Speaker 1: Is a better formula to hire a head coach first 755 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 1: and then decided a GM or vice versa. I know, Bucky, 756 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: we've talked about this time and time again, but in general, 757 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 1: what is your view? I mean, obviously, these guys have 758 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,399 Speaker 1: to work as partners, and so you can go either way, 759 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,479 Speaker 1: like if you hire the GM, g M highs the coach. 760 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,360 Speaker 1: If you are the head coach, like we've seen Seattle 761 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 1: do when they've brought in Pete Carroll and he played 762 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: a role in hiring John Snyder, it can work. I 763 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 1: think the main thing there has to be a partnership 764 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,400 Speaker 1: and these guys have to see football uh with the 765 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 1: same vision, because if you have guys who are thinking 766 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: about the game playing out differently, it just makes it 767 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,359 Speaker 1: hard and you have to have agreement on players and 768 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,399 Speaker 1: style and all those things. And so it's just really 769 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 1: really important that when you hire one and you bring 770 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 1: on the other, that those guys are attached at the 771 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 1: hip and their in lockstep in terms of how to 772 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: do the team. Ego always gets involved. It feels like, 773 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 1: you know, everybody wants credit when things go well, and 774 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: when it doesn't go well, they don't want to take 775 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 1: grantit for it. You know, that's how it works. And 776 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: that was the other guy did this, not that not me. 777 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 1: It wasn't me. It was that kind of pointing fingers, 778 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 1: but that that cannot be the case. Well, no, I 779 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,399 Speaker 1: can't be the case. And I think that's why show 780 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 1: I kind of put out this statement when he said 781 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,720 Speaker 1: that he is ultimately the decision maker that both roles 782 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 1: report to him. And because you're trying to eliminate some 783 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,799 Speaker 1: of that tattletale stuff that can go on in the 784 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,840 Speaker 1: office where you have the gentleman or manager walking up 785 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 1: to the ownership and talking about where the coaches aren't 786 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 1: doing this, and the coach walking up to ownership and saying, 787 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 1: the general managers not give me any players. I can't 788 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 1: do what I want to do because I don't have 789 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: the personnel. You want to eliminate that these guys really 790 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 1: have to be aligned and they have to be on 791 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: the same page when it comes to build in the 792 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,359 Speaker 1: team acquiring the players that are necessary to make this 793 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,320 Speaker 1: vision come to life. I guess what if they lose, 794 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 1: then they'll all get blacked anyway. So that's how that's 795 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,799 Speaker 1: how it'll work. That works in the NFL. Unfortunately, let's 796 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 1: go to our next question from at b k L 797 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 1: then the offer. I'm not sure how to say that, 798 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 1: but take your guest, Bucky, should they let Cam Robinson go? 799 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,800 Speaker 1: Hm left tack And I don't know if it's necessarily 800 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,880 Speaker 1: a black or white answer. I think you have to 801 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 1: hold a line in terms of what you're willing to 802 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 1: pay Cam Robinson before you you let him go. We 803 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 1: talked about the two picks that we're have in the 804 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,280 Speaker 1: first round where that can be the first one obviously 805 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: is number one, but somewhere in the bottom teams where 806 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 1: we can have that second one. Were there plenty of 807 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,719 Speaker 1: offensive tackles in this draft. And so if he gets 808 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 1: a little pricing to retain Cam Robson, you can let 809 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 1: him go, bring somebody else in and pullug and play 810 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,320 Speaker 1: and let's go about franchise tag him. What's the number 811 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,840 Speaker 1: on that this year. I don't even know, man, I 812 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: don't know what that number would be, but I think 813 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 1: it would be kind of pricing maybe. I think probably 814 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:23,759 Speaker 1: like twelve or so many. You haven't seen the new 815 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 1: numbers in the cap sometimes changes it. But if you 816 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,359 Speaker 1: want to keep him on a one year deal and 817 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,759 Speaker 1: just kind of wait and see, I don't know if 818 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 1: he has played at a level where you are willing 819 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,399 Speaker 1: to duff a whole lot into him, because I don't 820 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 1: know if you knew exactly what you're getting the franchise tag, 821 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 1: maybe the way they go Our next question, I don't 822 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 1: even think it's a question. Actually, there is a question 823 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,760 Speaker 1: here from at Jacob Ryan Hardt too. Can you guys 824 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 1: do more shows in the off season? So that's the 825 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 1: question and the answer is yes. Also j P, let's 826 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 1: do what we gotta do to get Bucky back for 827 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: next season. Love and appreciate you guys doing the show. 828 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:02,799 Speaker 1: Is a great sense of normalcy this year. Thanks. Yeah, 829 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. It's in the night. Where's yeah, we're 830 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 1: coming back. We can do more stuff with the Jags. 831 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,839 Speaker 1: We can make it happy because look, we went through 832 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 1: the rough times. JP. I I gotta see the product 833 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,600 Speaker 1: goal at the end of the rainbow, like right like, 834 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 1: right now, right now. Privately, I feel like I'm not 835 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,440 Speaker 1: a lucky charm. Fifteen straight als on my resume like it. 836 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 1: It takes a lot for me to get back over. 837 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, I need to be here for a while 838 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,360 Speaker 1: to make sure I get my record right. You're in 839 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,239 Speaker 1: for the long haul. This is not a one and 840 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 1: done for Bucky Brooks. Fortunately for us, We're gonna have 841 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,320 Speaker 1: him around all offseason doing different things. Where the process 842 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,760 Speaker 1: of working that out right now? One final question, um, 843 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 1: and it has to do with football from at Jordan's 844 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 1: Stanzel and it's about the head coaching opening. And it's 845 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 1: a name that we didn't see on the list. Thoughts 846 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 1: on Joe Brady as potential head coach of the Jaguars. 847 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:56,320 Speaker 1: This is speaking of a rising stars in the profession. 848 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 1: Joe Brady is moving up as quickly as you can imagine, 849 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,239 Speaker 1: you know, JP not as surprise that he's rising. I 850 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 1: think it's probably a meteoric rise for someone who went 851 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 1: from me on a quality control guy for the New 852 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,440 Speaker 1: Orleans Saints to being not even really the coordinator l 853 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,319 Speaker 1: s U the passing game guy, to be a one 854 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 1: year coordinated with the Panthers too. Now he's on the 855 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 1: circuit interviewer for head jobs. Here's what I would say 856 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 1: about Joe Brady. He's young, he's dynamic, he's creative. He 857 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 1: does a really good job of making the game easy. 858 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,799 Speaker 1: He did particularly for Joe burrow Um and so he 859 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 1: has some experience. But man, you have to surround him 860 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 1: with so many veteran coaches so that he can kind 861 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 1: of grow into that role of being a head coach. 862 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,960 Speaker 1: The reason why he's attractive though, is if you have 863 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 1: the play caller as you're head coach, you're not going 864 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 1: to lose him when the offense succeeds. It ensures a 865 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 1: level of continuity when it comes down to the head 866 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,399 Speaker 1: coach coordinator in the quarterback, which is why you see 867 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 1: some of these young guys, these young quarterback gurus get 868 00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 1: jobs like we've seen him, Zach Taylor, Sean McVeigh, because 869 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 1: you don't lose him when they get the offense is successful. 870 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 1: All about the offense got to score points in the NFL. 871 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 1: There you have it. Social questions are in and that 872 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 1: will do it. For our regular regularly scheduled Wednesday Jaguars 873 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 1: happy hours for the season now in and Bucky, we're 874 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,400 Speaker 1: in the process of working on some offseason plans for 875 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 1: shows and podcasts, and we're glad to have you as 876 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,799 Speaker 1: a part of that throughout the off season. And as 877 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 1: you said just a moment ago, the pot of Gold's 878 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 1: coming suit stick around. This is gonna be a fun 879 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 1: few months. Absolutely, Man, I'm really excited. I'm glad to 880 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 1: be back, uh with duvall in the Jaguars and all 881 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,799 Speaker 1: that stuff. And I'm looking forward to the off season because, man, 882 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,040 Speaker 1: all eyes are will be on the Jaguars, because we 883 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 1: have an opportunity to reinvent the franchise, bring in some 884 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 1: good players and talk about it all over again. We'll 885 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,799 Speaker 1: do it again soon, Bucky. Appreciate you all season long. Man, 886 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,399 Speaker 1: all right, Man, be good, Bucky Brooks out of here. 887 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,840 Speaker 1: NFL Network analysts are thanks to Brent Roebert, TRYMP Padilla 888 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 1: and our entire Jaguars dot Com crew For Bucky, I'm 889 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick. Will catch you next time. This Jaguars 890 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 1: Happy Hour presented by the Fields Auto Group. 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