1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: Celebrity book Club. Who's that knocking at the door. It's 2 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: all your friends, your filthy horse. Your husband's gone, and 3 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: you've got books and a bottle of wine to kill. 4 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: It's books, it's gossip. I'm shook. It's memoirs, martinis. Clebrity 5 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: book Club. Come read it while it's hot. Celebrity book Club, 6 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: tell your secrets. We won't talk celebrity books. No boys 7 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: are alloud. Celebrity book say it loud and poud, Celebrity 8 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: book Club. Buzz men. I brought the queer foe, Hey 9 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: bess friend, Hey, good fine sir over there in New 10 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: York City. Oh, hello, good fine sir. I notice you're 11 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: not in your cool Ridgewood office with the matching um 12 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: grammatdas that I have for soundproofing. I noticed there's a 13 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: beautiful painting of a ship behind you, sir. And is 14 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: that a pond? Yes, the long pond. It is a 15 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: beautiful landscape of a pond. You are seeing many framed artifacts. 16 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: Of course, I have traveled back to eighteen forty two. 17 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: I am at what was essentially the economic center of 18 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: the world, the locus of the whaling industry in the 19 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: nineteenth century. I am referring to the island of Nantucket. 20 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: How does the poem go? There? Once was a man 21 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: from Nantucket whose fleece was something I feel like, it's 22 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: one of those like it's a cloud, it's a naughty Limerick, 23 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: but I don't quite recall what it's like. And then 24 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: he sat on his tucket bye and bye. He like 25 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: went to the river, and his liver did pry. Yes, 26 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: his liver was quite not happy with what he was 27 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: doing over there on the island and in the several 28 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: ponds and all the adjacencies. I don't I feel like 29 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: I didn't really grow up, you know, knowing that Limerick. Obviously, 30 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: I did not grow up on the island. Unlike Megan Trainer. 31 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: When I'm my heroes, who is the most famous person 32 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: to ever come out of Nantucket since the beginning of time? 33 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: It was like whatever, like Ishmael and like Moby Dick 34 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: folk like that crew, and then Megan Trainer. You're going 35 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: to be hearing more about Nantucket and our tips and 36 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: tricks to kind of how to guide yourself through the 37 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 1: island in the via Today's Baby Legs is going to 38 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: be Stephen and Lily's Nantucket. The hotspots, where to go, 39 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 1: where to get fucked, where to meet guys, Where to 40 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: get the most amazing bunch You've ever had in your life? 41 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: Secret donuts, the best coffee, the weirdest beaches, the best 42 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: CBD Macha tincture latte is Do you remember And this 43 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 1: is the only thing I'll say, do you remember those 44 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: absolutely psychotic hemp CBD like weed latte as we got? 45 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 1: I do? And they made no sense? And that's why 46 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: Nantucket is in its second No, it's absolutely and it's 47 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: it's totally in its second golden age for Chucket. Into 48 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: What book we read? Hell, Yes, we read one of 49 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: the sassiest books I've ever read in my entire life, 50 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: none other than the autobiography of one Benjamin Franklin, all 51 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: about the Benjamin's baby. Hell. Yes, inventor, politician, fireman, printmaker, Yes, 52 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: local fireman, starter, um stowmaker, general, ghost, general, father, founding father, 53 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: ladies man, absolute ladies man. Also just like absolute, sassy, 54 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: ribald critic, very arrogant, sir, but honestly reason to be. Yeah, 55 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: very arrogant, absolutely not humble and let's just say it 56 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: a hustler. Yeah, I mean, he really is. This book 57 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: it's like he invented like hashtag motivation Monday. He no, 58 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: he just hours. Yes, but like every page of this 59 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: book is basically like all of those saints, Like he 60 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: truly invented Instagram. Like literally he's like, um, yeah, sorry, 61 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: you want to play chess with me? Sure, as long 62 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: as we can speak in Italian and Latin while we're 63 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: doing it. Yeah, because everything has to be perfective. Sorry, yeah, 64 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go waste away my time on superficialities 65 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: at the tavern house. Okay, I'm committed to my life 66 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: of industry and productivity and temperance, and I will be 67 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 1: up at sex rising and grinding, bitch. And he's always 68 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: I mean he invented like all of these, like a 69 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: penny save as a penny earned, Like he invented this newspaper, 70 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: Poor Richard's Almanac that was like this yearly almanac that 71 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: was just like forecasts about the weather, which is like, okay, 72 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: well you're making that up because you don't know what 73 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 1: the weather is going to be in July, so well 74 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: I will argue with that. Like when he's talking about 75 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: like he also like invented putting out fires, which is okay, true, 76 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: he's very arrogant, so up to its own assets, insane 77 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: because he he says, he invents everything. He's just like, well, actually, 78 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: no one had ever literally thought to put out a 79 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: fire before me, and so I invented the first firehouse 80 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: and then the first local like volunteer fire brigade. And 81 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: that's still in a fact, and that's why Philadelphia like 82 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: fires are always like getting put out so much faster 83 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: than everyone else is fire And he says that's how 84 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: he was like, oh, I should mention that I did 85 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: inventtion was so amazing. So it's like this book kind 86 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: of Niffe is grant like girl goes into detail, but 87 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: like he does jump around where you're like, okay, you 88 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: are young, and like your father died and was blown 89 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: away by like a ship um the second everyone and 90 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: then like everyone in this book is always going to 91 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: a Caribbean island and just dying. He's always like, and 92 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: he went to Barbados where he died or just like 93 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: and his health was failing, and then he went to 94 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: the Caribbean and then he died. That is an epic 95 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 1: story about the man who dies in the West Indies, 96 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: And we'll get to that hold on. I just want 97 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: to say where, Like he jumps around, and then all 98 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: of a sudden, he's like at the NIFA chapter is like, wait, 99 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 1: you guys, I really should tell you I kind of 100 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: invented a stove. I'm pulling up this line because it's 101 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: just so him. Okay, So he's talking about the Quakers 102 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: because he was kind of dragging the Quakers for being 103 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: like so fake about being anti war when he was no, 104 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: I love when he I love when he drive the Quakers. Wait, 105 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know Quakers because what his thing 106 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: is that like they're always like basically the Quaker meeting 107 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: houses are getting together and they are granting like England 108 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: the right to like tax them to like send guns 109 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: to fight the French or the Indians, and like they're 110 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: basically like he was being a little like, I mean, 111 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: I guess I kind of relate because I am so 112 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: non confrontational. But he was like, so let me get this, Quakers, 113 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: you were like supposedly peaceful, yet you're still giving money 114 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: for like and supporting the war, like maybe be actually like, 115 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: but then the Quakers would always have to like make 116 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: the resolution some like like some other language that obfuscated 117 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: the fact that it was for worth. They'd be like, 118 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:13,559 Speaker 1: and we will give sixty pounds shillings for grain and 119 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: other grain, and like everyone knew other grain meant gunpowder. 120 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: And everyone was like rolling their eyes with the Quakers 121 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: having to do this song and dance about their pacifism. Okay, 122 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: read this quote and then I want to go off 123 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: on Okay, so he's going off on Quakers. Then he 124 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: goes in order of time. I should have mentioned before that, 125 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: having in seventeen forty two invented an open stove for 126 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: the better warming of rooms and at the same time 127 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: saving fuel as the fresh air admitted was warmed and entering, 128 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: I made I made a president of the model to 129 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,679 Speaker 1: mister Robert Grace, one of my early friends, who having 130 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: an iron furnace, found the cast into the place for 131 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: the stoves a profitable thing as they were growing in demand. 132 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: Like just like, oh, so, by the way, invent to 133 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: the stove that was like insanely green and actually really useful, 134 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: and like I randomly I told my friend, and oh, 135 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: he was making money because they were so popular and 136 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: everyone one of my stoves. But yeah, I should probably 137 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: just mention that, GEO. I also can I just say, 138 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: I gusually don't think that that stove was that good, 139 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: and I think he's I think he's blowing hot air, 140 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: so to speak up his own pipe. Yeah, bitch, there's 141 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: a reason why we don't use even though he like 142 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: gets claimed his stove is used today, there's a reasona 143 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: why we aren't. Like I don't have a fucking Ben 144 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: Franklin stove up in my apartment. I have New York 145 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: City heat that blows hard. That's why I'm in my 146 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: short sleeve women's Oh yes, Valore corduroy dog buttoned down 147 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: right now, because that's all I need. Bozied and bosied 148 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: with that fresh Eric Adams, he thank you, mayor no, 149 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: thank you. Ben Franklin didn't do shit with his Pennsylvania furnace. Well, 150 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: and I'll just say this, whenever you go to Boston, 151 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: where he's from, it's fucking drafty as all. Hello. Well 152 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: he was kind of like he did, going to kick 153 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: himself out of Boston, and so maybe yeah, he had 154 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: a little bit of drama there, as all true, massles. 155 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: I do love that he is. I had to fucking 156 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: leave Boston. Brother, Oh my brother, Oh you think I'm 157 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: a better print maker than you. Oh you think I 158 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: set better type letters than you? Yeah, I'll excuse me. 159 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: I'm I'm going to Philly. I'm gonna sat the best 160 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: printer that they ever had, and I'm gonna make newspapers 161 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna make all man acts. What the fuck 162 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: are you gonna do? And his brother's being so you 163 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: owe me fucking two hundred shillings. You're gonna come to 164 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: me in my house when you owe me two hundred shillings. 165 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: Don't even talk about a mother when you owe me 166 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 1: two hundred shillings. I do own a T shirt made 167 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: from a screen printer. One of my nerves for beef 168 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: T shirts is made from a place called Ben Franklin 169 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: like shirt press. Okay, so there, yeah, kind of a 170 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: evoking the original print master himself, Miss frank exactly. It's 171 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: also so this is it's like I didn't really put 172 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: this together after reading it, where I was like, you're 173 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: so arrogant, and it's like but you're literally on the 174 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: hundred dollar bill, which is like dope, You're like, yeah, 175 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: the most braggadocious bitch was like I think I got 176 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: the hundred here later Hamilton fall back. But that's also 177 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: so him to be like, I feel like he would 178 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: probably because he literally get to that. The book kind 179 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: of just like stops like in the middle of the 180 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: French and Indy War because he guess he lost his papers. Oh, 181 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: I know, like it's very like this whole book, you're like, 182 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: are we going to get to the revolution? And then 183 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: there's one page at the end about the constitution because 184 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: he's just so busy bragging about inventing a stufgging. I mean, 185 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: he wasn't you know, who's founding the country whatever. I 186 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: guess I do feel like he's another book. I do 187 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: feel like he wrote. And then it was very just 188 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: like the manuscript was sent to France for approval by 189 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: a separate printmaker, and of course it was lost in 190 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: a horrible shipwreck when everyone died and got cholera. I 191 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 1: just want to say this about when I was learning 192 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 1: about Quakers, as I feel like, was this that you're 193 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: like Montessori school where you guys were all like playing 194 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: with blocks. Yeah. I actually did not go to a 195 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: Montessori school, but it was greater Montessori. Okay, I'm always 196 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: accusing you of this, but you're always you're like, oh, 197 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: you're fucking Monta story school. It's like, cut the fuck 198 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: off my non Montessori bass. Okay, it was much more 199 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: like there was a print out of like it actually 200 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: was very Ben Franklin. There was like a print out 201 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: of values that were like respect. That's just like every 202 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: commentary school. I feel kind, be kind. So I remember 203 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: when we like went to like a Quaker meeting house 204 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: and like all had to sit on those like old aspens, 205 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: and they were like the way Quakers met is they 206 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: just sat there in silence until someone had something to 207 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 1: say less And I was like, you're fucking kidding me. 208 00:11:54,559 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 1: It's just so boring. Don't give them a podcast day 209 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: the Science Island as Quaker podcast. Wait, okay, I feel 210 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: like that would be such a like a return to 211 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: the way things should be. People like this trend of 212 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: silent podcasts just be like it actually really helps me 213 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: just kind of zero out and focus sleep and in 214 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: our crazy hustle and barted by content and by voices 215 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: and noises all day, And I just I love to 216 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: listen to a silent Quaker podcast the way Ben Franklin 217 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: would be blasting podcast in God now, it would be 218 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: like radio around the fucking clock because and like Ted 219 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: talks because he's so I mean, this is why he 220 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: does kind of because he's constantly being just like, you 221 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: must be productive at all hours of the day. Idle 222 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: hands lead to idle days, lead to idle men, even 223 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: though he obviously is lying because he loves to just 224 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: like Gallivant and Gas and he was like such a 225 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: womanizer and was always fucking at rumpet at a nail house, 226 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: I mean, which obviously doesn't mention in the book Hypocrite Boots, 227 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: is that right, He like goes on and he's like 228 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: shaming so many people for drinking too much Madera wine 229 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 1: and as being like the Indians got so wasted on 230 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: rum and we're always banging on my tent for more rum. 231 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 1: And it's like, bitch, you brought, you brought the god cancel. 232 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: Then that party did sound lit, though I know what 233 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: it was like a fire and everyone's getting like so wasted. 234 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: And then he talks about how like his breakfast were 235 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: only water gruel. But then well, because everyone else at 236 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: the printing house was just like beer for breakfast, beer 237 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: for lunch, beer for dinner, and they were completely wasted, 238 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: like printing all these Bibles, and he was just like, 239 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: y'all are kind of like being a little bit slow 240 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 1: and shitty with the type here. Maybe less beer in 241 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: the morning. And they were like, okay, faggot, right. They 242 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: were just like, Oh, you don't want me to drink 243 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: of sam Adams. Oh sorry, you need a figi? Oh 244 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 1: mister fucking fancy, Oh ben figi over here? Oh pat 245 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: in me. Oh he needs an heavy on. He gets 246 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: his water impointed from France. Excuse me, big shot speaks French, 247 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: bigot speaks Portuguese. The first time his wife sees him, 248 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: he's walking back from the baker and he's carrying three 249 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: rolls in his hand, but he can't carry all the roles, 250 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: so he's he's stuffing one into his fat ass mouth. 251 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: And she thought it was such a hilarious sight. This 252 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: was Miss Reid, Yeah, this was missus s does ever 253 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: get a first name? Isn't her name Meredith? Which is 254 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: there was another guy whose last name was Meredith who 255 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: was part of his like spot, confusing it. There was 256 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: like James Meredith, but I feel like he literally is 257 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: just like And then Miss Reid like did get married 258 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: to an awful Irish pot Her who was a terrible ceramicist, 259 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: and was very sad and depressed, and it was awful 260 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: for her, and I felt so bad. But I was 261 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: off in London, and I wrote her a letter saying 262 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: that I honestly wasn't coming back because I was having 263 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: too much fun with my good companions. But then she 264 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: divorced the Irish Cri part where okay, okay. We landed 265 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia on the eleventh of October, where I found 266 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: sundry alterations. Keith was no longer governor, being suspersed by 267 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: Major Gordon. I met him walking the streets as a 268 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: common citizen. He seemed a little ashamed at seeing me, 269 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: but passed without saying anything. I should have been as 270 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: much ashamed at seeing Miss Reid, had not her friends, 271 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: despairing with reason of my return after the receipt of 272 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: my letter, persuaded her to marry another one, Rogers, a potter, 273 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: which was done in my absence. With him. However, she 274 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: was not happy and sue parted from him, refusing to 275 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: cohabit with him or bear his name. It is now 276 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: being said that he had another wife. He was a 277 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: worthless fellow, though an excellent workman, which was the temptation 278 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: to her friends he got into debt right well that 279 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: the friends were like, no, girl, his pottery is good. Yeah, 280 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: let's say okay, fuck boy, Like he's this like badass 281 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: sculptor who's like, yeah, no, I actually am like really rich, 282 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: and she's like okay. And then actually he gets into 283 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: so much debt and her friends are just being like, 284 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, girl Read, like I'm sorry those pots 285 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: slap dude when you see he has good pots. So 286 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: basically miss Read marries this guy. Oh and by the way, 287 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: so Ben Franklin wanted to marry Miss Reid, but her 288 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: parents were like, a printmaker doesn't make any money, right, Like, 289 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: you can't marry a printmaker. Little did they know my 290 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: boy would be inventing stoves later on. Yeah, but like 291 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: also but then he was like, and I actually didn't 292 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: sell the pattern for the stove, and I could have 293 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: made a lot of money, but I didn't because I'm 294 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: like not such a just like whatever money grubbing, like 295 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: sell out. I feel like he said that he could 296 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: have made more money for the stoves, and it's kind 297 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: of like, right, he's kind of but he's very I mean, 298 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: so much of this book is him describing like the 299 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: incredible minutia of these like long term loans that he's 300 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: making with other like print house owners. Print is printing 301 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: house off the ground, and I'm kind of like, girl 302 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: got on with it, but like and but he basically 303 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: like it's I feel like he when he really starts 304 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: making money is when he starts literally printing money, because 305 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,719 Speaker 1: I think that's like a big government contract. And then 306 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 1: oh lo and behold. He's actually like he gets involved 307 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 1: in the debates around paper money because up until that 308 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: point people were still using sterling and like measuring it 309 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: out in pounds, so a lot of people were really 310 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: anti paper money, and he was being I thought it 311 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 1: was so crypto and n and they were like, oh 312 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: I knew. I was like, it's insane. I mean, and 313 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: this is why nothing's new, and just like paper money 314 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 1: was NFTs and like is the future. They're sponsored by 315 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: crypto dot com. Yeah, Robin hood snacks snack on this um. 316 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: But so he was like printing like little newspapers and pamphlets. 317 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: So many pamphlets in this book constantly just dribbing pamphlets 318 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 1: with ideas and conversations to debates of the day. Okay, 319 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: Zeene daddy absolute zine hoore. I mean there were no tweets. 320 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: His call out to like Sterling hose Um is that 321 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: I feel like he was being like, you guys are 322 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: being so queer exchange and always trading like corn for 323 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: run for flour, and he's like, well, what if you 324 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: just like want money and you don't, then you have 325 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: all this corn. You don't even need the corn. And 326 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: that was the problem with you know. The weird thing 327 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 1: about Sterling, of course, was you were still you were 328 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: still measuring it by the pound. I mean, this goes 329 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: back to medieval times. And so he said, oh I 330 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: had three three hundred pounds of silver for this, or 331 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: she only had you know, a pound to her name, 332 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: or it would be sixty pounds, you know, kind of 333 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 1: just like we're still sitting around with scales and wait, 334 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: it's after all this time, Fiat makes so much. It's 335 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: just so much easier. Hello people, Well, and that's how 336 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: the motherfucking British kept us under their rule. That's right, 337 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: No taxation without representation. 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Oh, 378 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: the insane list of virtue and then he makes that 379 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: gayest little schedule of how he's doing for each of 380 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: his virtues. It's kind of crazy because it's like he's 381 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: so gay but in this straight way, because I know 382 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: he was like horny for women. Well that part just 383 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: gets so Jordan Peterson where it's just being like make 384 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: your bed right and you're just like okay, but he is, 385 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't believe you did any of these things. 386 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: And then he sent out this chart where he was like, well, 387 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: there's no way you can do all these amazing things 388 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: in one day. So like on Tuesday, be humble, but 389 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: like on Thursday, be like frugal. You have the list, Yeah, 390 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: we can do it every other one temperance, eat not 391 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: to dullness, drake, not to elevation. Two silence speak not 392 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: but what may benefit others or yourself. Avoid trifling conversation. 393 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: I mean the amount of times he didn't say someone 394 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: was crying. Now, he's always been like this trifle as how, 395 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 1: And it's just like, bitch, you're the trifle, and as how, 396 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: I know your ass is gossiping around the way all 397 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: the time, Like he was always taking like sun tread 398 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: walks like with other like men of thought and women 399 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: of pettico. Yes, no, but then pretending like he was 400 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: absolutely the man of most repute in all of Philadelphia. 401 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: He was like, well, yes, I was taking a walk, 402 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: but we were like talking about paper money and likens 403 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 1: or whatever. No, I mean he's definitely billing the client 404 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: like so many hours when he was absolutely not working. 405 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: I feel like it's just very general businessman that's like 406 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: always kind of getting cappuccinos and martinis and steak dinners. 407 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: Then he do you remember the part though, when he 408 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: was like, but everyone thought it was the hardest worker 409 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: out of all the three major print shops in Philadelphia 410 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: because I was always just like made sure to like 411 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: repress the like letters like in the window at night. 412 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: So people were thinking, like, oh, he's late to bed 413 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: and early to rise. Ben Franklin works more than all 414 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: the other printers. He's the one to watch, bitches a genius. 415 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 1: And he was like, and you must be seen dragging 416 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: a wheelbarrow full of wet muslin to press the letters 417 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: in the middle of the day, so people know that 418 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: you do the Muslim pressing. Oh, there's been pressing off 419 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: to print more Muslim um. Also, you know him and 420 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: his wife were never married. They had a common law marriage, 421 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: so it was like so woke. They were just like together, 422 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: go all the way off modern. Because she was she 423 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: could never get divorced from the sculpt and then if 424 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: he came back, she would have been accused of bigamy, 425 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: which would have served her thirty nine lashings. Wow. Yeah, 426 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: and you know those Pennsylvania lashings, they hit hard, even 427 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: under all that Muslim petticoats. Okay, so oh yeah, the 428 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,719 Speaker 1: last order, Let all your things have their places, let 429 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: each part of your business have its time. That I 430 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 1: agree with. It's just like, you know, do your in 431 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: the off ass, make your love in the bedroom. It's 432 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: a very no phones, it's very petroom, no quills in 433 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 1: the bedroom, Misread, Okay, resolution resolved to perform what you 434 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: ought to perform without fail. What you resolve, it's like 435 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: do what you say you're gonna do. Sure, frugality, make 436 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 1: no expense, but to do good to others or yourself. 437 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: I waste nothing. So you remember the scene where miss 438 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 1: Read buys a china ball and he's so pessed because 439 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: he has his milk porridge and in an earthen bowl 440 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 1: every morning, and then he's like, and he says he 441 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: blames on her. He's like, which my wife bought from 442 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: me out of no knowledge of my own, thinking that 443 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: her husband might enjoy a bowl of china. Well right, 444 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: it's like she's out there trying to make her fat 445 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 1: ass man happy. Sorry, I'm not body shamming here. Franklin's 446 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: body was beautiful, and I would love our beautiful pear 447 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: shaped Founding father. I would love to caress it by 448 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: okay shaped well. As per the script at the end 449 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: of my book, Ben Franklin literally writes an snl skit 450 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: between him and the disease oft as like a character, 451 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: which is really yeah, being so like um and I'll 452 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: do some readings from that. But it's like, yeah, I 453 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: mean they're drinking beer. And but you know, I feel 454 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: like everyone had like their outfits were very like the 455 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: thin legs and then this like humpty dumpty lower area 456 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: like lower half they were. It was very fop. Everyone was. 457 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: The other reason why I think, um, he's more pear shaped, 458 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: and I feel like he is drinking these ales. I 459 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: also feel like here's saying about all the Founding Fathers, 460 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: like all those ales were like the happiest I pas. 461 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: Oh they were super better boots. Yeah, like pale European laggers. 462 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, get I just feel like bud Light was 463 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: not happening, or like everything was just being like one 464 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 1: bud light. Madame, Madame, keep it. Sorry, we only have 465 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,479 Speaker 1: the heaviest I guess sam Adam like, sorry, we only 466 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: got magic hat, dude. I mean I would say Sam 467 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: Adams is like medium, like you know what I mean, 468 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: It's is bitter and hoppy, so heavy, yeah, but I 469 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: mean I can still drink same Adam, so I don't 470 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 1: consider it really in that like ditness genre ditness slash 471 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: sixteen hundreds genre, okay, um industry, lose no time, be 472 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 1: always employed in something useful, cut off all unnecessary actions, 473 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: which is the whole thing being so like hustle and grind, sincerity, 474 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: use no hurtful deceit. Think innocently and justly, and if 475 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: you speak, speak accordingly. It's just like you are, Like 476 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: I don't believe took a sarcastic like joking jovial bach 477 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: calling everyone like a loser potter and just like a 478 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: poor little filthy like British kid. It's like I think 479 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 1: he's just knowing that, like because what's also fab about 480 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 1: him is he's like, not that Christian and he's so 481 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: just like oh yeah, no, no, no, obviously I am 482 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: so Presbyterian. And he's like, oh, haven't made it to 483 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,959 Speaker 1: meeting house literally never going to meeting house. I mean 484 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: he does say like there's one point where he's like no, 485 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 1: And I actually think Christianity's totally go when I think 486 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: about it. You think about the principles, like God is 487 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: like great, like that really makes sense. Um, personally, I'm 488 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: super busy, but I do think God is good and 489 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: he like strives to be a religious gentleman. Okay, fast, sincerity, justice, 490 00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: blah blah blah, moderation. Manliness has to read like the 491 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: Scout oath, which you have to say that's always a 492 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: Scout is trust with the loyal, thrifty, brave, cleaner, reveren kind. 493 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: But then again, tranquility be not disturbed at trifles. And 494 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: it's like, I feel like you again, were so disturbed 495 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: at the one trifle happens and you're like, stop trifle 496 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: and I'm printing, Okay, then this twelve chastity no description 497 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: under chastity though, it's like, oh, you just threw that 498 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: one in well, mine says rarely used venery but for 499 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: health or offspring as in your dick. No, yeah, it's 500 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: just blank. I think it's that thing. And let's talk 501 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: about printing in public domain for a second. Thank you? 502 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: Is that right? You know it's now his auto bio, 503 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: his memoir is public domain. So it's like mine is 504 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: on this insane foe leather backed edition. And I also 505 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: feel like maybe it could be more PG or like 506 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: they just missed stuff so that I think mine is 507 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: actually from eighteen ninety one. Like I think mine is 508 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: very old. It was per just for me at like 509 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: a rare bookstore. And I read a Twitter thread recently 510 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: that said books made before like nineteen ten are actually 511 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: way higher quality and will last forever because that's before 512 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: they started making them with like this really cheap paper 513 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: that has like acid in it. That's just like deteriorating 514 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: all the time. Because mine is like in dope ass condition. Okay, 515 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: this cover of its faux leatherness is like how in 516 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: Boston most people wear like faux weathered T shirts. We 517 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: all love like a Boston loves kind of a distressed 518 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: Oh I okay, yeah, now I see it's very that's 519 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: fun for kids to have that sort of texture to touch. 520 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: So he says no veneral use that means like no 521 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: sex and but for health or offspring. So it's kind 522 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: of like, oh, you can do it if health for 523 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: health reasons. Yeah, and he does say he's always like 524 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: there was some footnote where he's like, miss read and 525 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: I did have a joyful merite. I'm sure. Okay, So 526 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: there's this part of the book where he like wrote 527 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: into his brother's paper under an alias named Silence Dogwood. Okay, 528 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: this was so like Howkinsinski. Yes, yeah, I know, I 529 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: was like got so ted and he like sometimes he 530 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: was I did I read that wrong that he's writing 531 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: as a woman like missus Dogwood. I don't know if 532 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: I read that he was doing like gender role play 533 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: in the letters. But was this at the very beginning 534 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: when he was like getting his brother's newspaper in trouble 535 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: for like publishing ribald things that were critical of the 536 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: local governance. This was like late Oh no, no, no, 537 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: I think this was earlier. I'm honestly not sure in 538 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: the time of that. But there's just this one part 539 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: where he goes off on how like women shouldn't wear 540 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: petticoats and they like waste fabric and also like, oh 541 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,959 Speaker 1: are distasteful. Oh, but he's actually because he wants them 542 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: to wear less. So he's kind of been like yeah, 543 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: oh all right, he's like advocating for those legs to 544 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: be out and about. He wants to see them swishing 545 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: down the bubble stones of Beacon Hill. Yes, Mama, watch 546 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: that ass shake back and forth on the Cobbols. Speaking 547 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: of um women of ill repute. The part where that 548 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: like old lady on the boat, he's he's traveling by 549 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: boat from like Boston Philadelphia. It takes just like months, um, 550 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: and that that older woman like warns him against like 551 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: spending time with those hussies. Okay, hold on, I'm going 552 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: to just read this part. A matron like Quaker woman 553 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: was on this boat boat to New York. Therefore, when 554 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: she saw a daily growing familiarity between me and these 555 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: two young women, which they appeared to encourage, she took 556 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: me aside and said, young man, I am concerned for THEE, 557 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: as thou hast no friend with THEE and seems not 558 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: to know much of the world, or if the snares 559 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: youth is exposed to depend upon it, those are very 560 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: bad women, I can see in all their actions, and 561 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: if they are not upon thy God, they will draw 562 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: THEE into some danger. They are strangest to THEE, and 563 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: I advise THEE to have no acquaintance with them. And 564 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: so then he like, at first I seem to not 565 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: think so all of them, blah blah blah. But then 566 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: when we arrived at New York, they told me where 567 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: they lived and if I need to come see them, 568 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: but I avoided it, which is kind of like I 569 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: feel like maybe he did go fuck them. Then the 570 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: next day the captain was missing a silver spoon and 571 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: some other things that had been taken out of his cabin, 572 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: and knowing that these were a couple of strumpets, he 573 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: got a warrant to search their lodgings, found the stolen goods, 574 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: and had the thieves pushed. So the old Quaker matron 575 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: was right, and they were strumpets, and they had stolen 576 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: the spoon. They were strumpets. I need to use that 577 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: word way more often. When women be strumpets, women be 578 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: stealing spoons. If you see strumpets, say something. Do you 579 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: remember there was a spoon controversy? What was the spoontroversy 580 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: was some chefs. We'll talk about. Oh, I know what 581 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah we should. Okay, let 582 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: me just I'm just gonna quickly for context, this thing 583 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: about petticoats, some observations on a particular fashion now raining 584 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: among my own sex. So this is him, this is 585 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: I'm pretending to be a woman, literally pretending to be 586 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 1: a woman riding into out fire. No, yeah, she is 587 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 1: soire like fire. He looks exactly like her. Yeah, I 588 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: feel like his vibe. It's not gay. It's a little 589 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 1: just Robin Williams and that kind of like kooky comedy tootsie, 590 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 1: like old school shoulder pathos like Chris Farley and the 591 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 1: Gap Girls get real heads now, Um, okay. The most 592 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: immodest and inconvenient of any the art of woman has invented, 593 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 1: namely that of hoop petticoats. By these they are incommoded 594 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: in their general and particular calling, and therefore they cannot 595 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: answer the ends of either necessary or ornamental apparel. These 596 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: monstrous top seat over mortar pieces are neither fit for 597 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: the church, the hall, or the kitchen. And if a 598 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: number of them were well mountain on Naudle's Island. They 599 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 1: would look more like engines of war from bombarding the 600 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 1: town than ornaments of the fair Sex. An honest neighbor 601 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: of mine happening to be in town sometimes since on 602 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: a public day, informed that he saw four gentlewomen with 603 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,720 Speaker 1: their hoops half mounted in a balcony as they withdrew 604 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: to the wall to the great terror of the militia. 605 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 1: So he's saying, these petticoats are like literally cannons. They're 606 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 1: so huge. Please get them off my rampart. Yeah, they 607 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 1: look so so fun. He sounds like he'd be very 608 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: anti Peplin. There was a really freaky girl in my 609 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 1: elementary school who would wear like a petticoat to our 610 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: like holiday recital. Yeah that's very yr Oh that's more 611 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: your high school I know. Well, there was also a 612 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: role in my high school that did old timey cosplay 613 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: as well. So okay, wait, so a couple of things 614 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: I want to talk about. I do want to talk about. 615 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: Um Okay, did you get to the part where he's provax. 616 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: So he is like, oh my god, yes, with smallpox. 617 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 1: So his son dies of smallpox, and he says his 618 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: greatest regret is not inoculating his son with his own 619 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 1: small pox. It was just like and everyone's worried that, 620 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,800 Speaker 1: like your son's gonna die from getting the Like was 621 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: it like self, he's giving him son a shot? I mean, 622 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 1: I know this is the general. Yeah, I think it 623 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: would be like self or easy, just like you find 624 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 1: someone small box and like rub them on your son 625 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: a little bit, like did they? Yeah, I think he's 626 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: like he he would have like invented his own little 627 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: small palk. Clearly was a thing because he says that 628 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 1: you could like go maybe given he could go to 629 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: maybe the local apothecary act and they would like give 630 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 1: your a little patriotation just be like listen, like put 631 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: this in your son's like bread porridge, and like he 632 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: will get mild smallpox and then he'll be immune. Because obviously, 633 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,399 Speaker 1: I'm sure there was this anti vax movement of other 634 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 1: Philadelphia parents who were being like, no, a, I'm gonna 635 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: kill mcki with small box if I give it to him, 636 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,879 Speaker 1: like be, it's gonna make him autistic. I don't think 637 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: there was a sixteen hundred set of parents being like 638 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 1: it's gonna make my son autistic. I feel like the 639 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: vibe in Philadelphia Society was more like, you're going to 640 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: kill your son by giving him smallpox? Less like, and 641 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: then my example showing that the regret may be the 642 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,360 Speaker 1: same either way and that therefore the safer should be chosen. 643 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, well my son still died of small 644 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: try it, try it bit yea, so okay. Also another 645 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 1: thing about him is that he's you've had chicken pox correct, oh, 646 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 1: like as a child? Yeah, or are you still like 647 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: able to get it and we'll die of oh? Right? 648 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 1: And it's very that thing where like everyone's like going 649 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 1: to the guild trip, they're like, has anyone not had 650 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 1: chicken pox? And I'm just like, sorry, never had it. 651 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,839 Speaker 1: I just like was never around it. And everyone's like, Okay, 652 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 1: we have to be really really careful with Steven when 653 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,879 Speaker 1: we go on the so far super careful. Um I don't. 654 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,839 Speaker 1: I honestly I don't remember him. I think I must have. Right, 655 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 1: did you have it? Did you iconically have it? And 656 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: you were so like connecting the dots with with sharpie? Yeah, 657 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,359 Speaker 1: I got it like from my sister, And I feel 658 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: like we were such a like gruesome to some like 659 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,800 Speaker 1: covered in spots. Okay. He also like was the freemason 660 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 1: and invented secret societies, and like he's obsessed with his 661 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,840 Speaker 1: secret club. He altially convented the library, but no, he 662 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: also yeah, he claims that he invented the library. It's 663 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 1: just like I guess there must have been libraries. And 664 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 1: also the franty is never in this book. Ps. Well, 665 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: my version has some it's so boring though. I could 666 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 1: hardly read it where he's like talking about like grabbing 667 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 1: a rod and fire, because you remember that that anecdote 668 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 1: that I heard from someone else that he had the 669 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 1: rod like going down connected to the banister in his 670 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 1: house and when like random horrors would come over, he 671 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: would make them like touch the banister and get shocked 672 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: as like a parlor trick. And he was always shocking 673 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: prostitutes and just been like isn't that such a gas? 674 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 1: It's like girl, you triflame. Wow. So he's actually this, 675 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,240 Speaker 1: he's so elon musk and is just like this sick 676 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 1: inventor being like touch my rod. Literally segment quills. How 677 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 1: does she eat? What does she wear? How does she live? So? 678 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: What does she eat? Let's get into it, girl, He's 679 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 1: a pesketarian, which I'm obsessed with. So he starts at 680 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 1: as a vegetarian because for literally for moral reasons, which 681 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: is really cool and ahead of the game, and again 682 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: not in a way in a gay way, but just 683 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 1: like in this very straightway you say pescarians are gay. Well, 684 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: he starts out as a vegetarian, and then he's on 685 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 1: this trip. He's on like yet another long ass boat ride, 686 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 1: and he's like, I'd formerly been a great lover of fish, 687 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: and like someone was cooking fish and when it came 688 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 1: hot out of the frying pan, it smelt admirably well. 689 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 1: I balanced some time between principle and inclination. So he's 690 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 1: sitting there hemming in hine over whether or not to 691 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 1: eat this fish, un till I recollected that when the 692 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,800 Speaker 1: fish were opened, I saw smaller fish taken out of 693 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,320 Speaker 1: their stomachs. Then I thought, if you eat another, I 694 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 1: don't see why we mayn't eat you. So I dined 695 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 1: upon cod very heartily and continued to eat with other people. 696 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 1: We're turning only now and then occasionally to a vegetable diet. 697 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 1: So he's still anti meat, but he's just like, we'll 698 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:33,359 Speaker 1: fish eat other fish, so we go che Oh, that's also, 699 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 1: so like Boston dad with high cholesterol to be like, um, 700 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 1: all have the steamed cod and baked potato and a 701 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 1: sam Adam flight. Thanks. Well, that is the most like 702 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 1: Boston thing for like a dad to be like my 703 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 1: one sam Adams a day. They're like, yes, I drink, 704 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 1: but it's like I have I cracked my one sam 705 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 1: atoms and that is good for me. Here's the thing. 706 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 1: He's his lying, trifling ass about how temperate he is. No, 707 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:06,959 Speaker 1: obviously he's having so much rum. What is Madeira wine 708 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 1: is mentioned too many times in this book for him 709 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: to not be drinking it round the clock. Okay, this 710 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 1: wine he mentioned, and I was like, this feels so 711 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 1: your family win sounds very poor. No, no, no, he said. 712 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 1: Then also he was like, we had so much Clairet. 713 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,800 Speaker 1: That is very my family. Oh I guess. Okay, claret 714 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,399 Speaker 1: is a way to describe board doone. He was like, oh, well, 715 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: the claret was flowing so oops, damn, I gonna get 716 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 1: me a bottle of Clairet. Yeah. I'm sure your parents 717 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 1: have some. I have claret in their wine fridge that 718 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 1: we'll talk about in the we are breaking open my 719 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,759 Speaker 1: parents wine fridge, which is as you may recall where 720 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 1: they keep the gun. Um. Okay, just sidebar. We will 721 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: get into this in VIP. But I had I ordered 722 00:41:56,239 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 1: like a Slovenian white last night at quequegs on Tucket, 723 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 1: not quak a sorry land acknowledgement, like I hope they 724 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: did one. Okay, but you will you know that Quakwag 725 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 1: is actually the name of like an Asian Pacific islander 726 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 1: character in Moby Dick, so it's not even a Wampanoag name. 727 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 1: I didn't know that fall all the way back miss Land, 728 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,840 Speaker 1: miss Land. Anyway, I had this white Slovenian thinking he 729 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:30,800 Speaker 1: was gonna be so funky like the Funkiest Wine and 730 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 1: Nantucket and it was like so sweet and it was 731 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,319 Speaker 1: fully apple juice and it was like my next book, 732 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,880 Speaker 1: The Funkiest Wine Nand my mom was like, can I may. 733 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,320 Speaker 1: She takes it, and she takes a sip, but she 734 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:49,240 Speaker 1: just goes, well that's horrible, oh Steven, oh that's horrible. 735 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 1: Um so yeah, just you know, ask I should have 736 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 1: asked the server more about with the with the with 737 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,719 Speaker 1: the palette. Well, I think I would have done the 738 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 1: same thing where I'm like, Slovenian, you're on Nantucket. You're like, yeah, sorry, 739 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 1: I'm different. I'm from New York City. I or Slovenian whites. 740 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 1: And that was just because then she brought it and 741 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:07,479 Speaker 1: she put it down. She was like, yeah, so people 742 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 1: like this. It's it's the one of the sweeter wines. 743 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,799 Speaker 1: And I compare it to whites infidel And I saw 744 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,319 Speaker 1: my mom maks like the whites of her eyes when 745 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,359 Speaker 1: she said whites infandel, and I was like, oh, here 746 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 1: we go. Her face turns green. Did you order the 747 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,759 Speaker 1: bottle or just no, just a glass? Oh? And then 748 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 1: I and then I honestly I was like, you know what, 749 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 1: I might don't actually want this, and that's okay to 750 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 1: do it. So you got a little more claret. Yeah, 751 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 1: you know, when your parents are paying, it's okay to 752 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 1: just not drink a glass because you don't like it. 753 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 1: And absolutely Ben Franklin would not Sorry, I don't think 754 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,759 Speaker 1: that if I would not approve, because that's one you're 755 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:45,760 Speaker 1: wasting with reality. Yeah, and it's not temperends, not temperate 756 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 1: all because you're asking for more, not humility. He has 757 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,840 Speaker 1: this like gross realist at some point that I was 758 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,839 Speaker 1: kind of like impressed by where he he more he's 759 00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 1: like brokering a deal to like in the French and 760 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 1: Indian War, of what he's sending, Oh what he's like 761 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,920 Speaker 1: sending that That part goes on for so long, and 762 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 1: it's all about like the wagons sending other wagons of 763 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,279 Speaker 1: bread to separate wagon. Right, But it was like he 764 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:15,240 Speaker 1: was being so barefoot contessa. Everything was like really good coffee, 765 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:20,160 Speaker 1: really good run, I'm sorry, really good beef tongue. The 766 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:24,400 Speaker 1: troops need really good tongue. Also in this book is 767 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 1: just another note the way he describes the French and 768 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 1: Indian War again like war was easier back then. I 769 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 1: do feel because he's just like, well, yeah, so at 770 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 1: around like I feel like he was very grant where 771 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, war ended at five, and then like 772 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 1: we made really good beef tongue. War ended at five. Absolutely, 773 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:45,040 Speaker 1: war was office to the boot's office hours only. He 774 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 1: also though his as was definitely not like volunteering to 775 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 1: be in anywhere where he might like have to have 776 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,840 Speaker 1: seen combat, like he was always like, and then everyone 777 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 1: was like saying who should lead the like local militia, 778 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,320 Speaker 1: and I was just like, oh no, no, no, it 779 00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,840 Speaker 1: couldn't be me I'll do more of the like inventory 780 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,320 Speaker 1: dealings between the armies and like send letters to the 781 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 1: king and like back to their governors, and like was 782 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 1: just always like figuring in a way to just like 783 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 1: wiggle out of actually having to do combat. Okay, to 784 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 1: just close out what does he eat? Let me read 785 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 1: part of this like snl skit that he writes between 786 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 1: it says dialogue between Ben Franklin and the Gout seventeen eighty. Okay, 787 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,880 Speaker 1: so this is Gout speaking to him. If life is 788 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 1: a sedentary one, your amusements, your recreation at least should 789 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 1: be active. You ought to walk or ride, or if 790 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,160 Speaker 1: the weather prevents that play at billiards. But let us 791 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,359 Speaker 1: examine your course of life. While the mornings are long 792 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 1: and you have leisure to go abroad, what do you do? Why? 793 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 1: Instead of gaining an appetite for breakfast by salutary exercise, 794 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,440 Speaker 1: you amuse yourself with books, pamphlets, and newspapers, which commonly 795 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,280 Speaker 1: are not worth the reading. Yet you eat an ordamant 796 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 1: breakfast four dishes of tea with cream and one or 797 00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 1: two buttered toasts with slices of hung beef, which I 798 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:05,480 Speaker 1: fancy are not things The most easily digested four cups 799 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 1: of tea with tons of cream and huge slabs of Okay, 800 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,439 Speaker 1: so I guess like the pescatarianism is over at that point. 801 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 1: Again hypocrisy, Okay, what does he wear? Not petticoats? I know, 802 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 1: I mean I think his classic keys like joggers, basic 803 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,439 Speaker 1: way with like joggers like Because here's the thing about 804 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,360 Speaker 1: him is he literally is a graphic designer. Yeah, and 805 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:37,600 Speaker 1: he's like in his like little dime square wire glasses. Okay, 806 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,880 Speaker 1: but he's not. I feel like he's a little bit more. 807 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,879 Speaker 1: I mean again, he's based in Philadelphia, so I don't 808 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,360 Speaker 1: don't think he's as dime score with the style, and 809 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,160 Speaker 1: he's more just like wearing is ever laying joggers with 810 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:52,080 Speaker 1: like the scrunchy like ankles, and he's just like nobodybe 811 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,080 Speaker 1: like top tier graphic design firm in Philadelphia, but they're 812 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 1: wearing I'm saying. The glasses, yes, the rapids are like 813 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 1: are kind of mascot for sure. He has his like 814 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,759 Speaker 1: Moscow little wire frames and then he gets this like 815 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 1: really long blazer that he's bearing with the skinnas. Okay, yes, 816 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,759 Speaker 1: I mean I guess yes, And in his time, I 817 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 1: mean he was wearing tails and cane I want to 818 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 1: say definitely in the later years we had a cane, yeah, 819 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,399 Speaker 1: when he needed it, and then like little pointy toe 820 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,359 Speaker 1: like bitch shoes. I mean. The thing is I think 821 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,320 Speaker 1: that he because he's always saying like oh again of 822 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 1: the debt of the day. Like for a long time 823 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,400 Speaker 1: his career, he was like not going to the tailor 824 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,160 Speaker 1: at sevil Row in London or like Paris whenever he 825 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 1: was in Europe. But like I think as he made 826 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,200 Speaker 1: more money off his printings and his magazine is his 827 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:46,520 Speaker 1: newspapers and his stove hustle, like he was probably going 828 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,680 Speaker 1: to a tailor at sevil Row and getting like a 829 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,719 Speaker 1: fairly expensive suit. Yeah, and I think like as like 830 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,399 Speaker 1: a stylish graphic designer would be. It's like he got 831 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,800 Speaker 1: this like really gorgeous kind of the blue blazer with 832 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,520 Speaker 1: tales that we always see him in. Like he got 833 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 1: like one really good blazer and one really good yeah, 834 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 1: and these are pieces that can last. Yeah, he wasn't 835 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,920 Speaker 1: doing fast. He had a pocket watch inscribed to him 836 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:17,960 Speaker 1: from a friend who did die in the West Indies. Well, 837 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,320 Speaker 1: because he was a loser potter of course, um not 838 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:22,759 Speaker 1: him most of the time when he has his best 839 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,920 Speaker 1: friend in London is like teaching at some random primary 840 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 1: school in the countryside. And then he tries to fuck 841 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 1: that guy's girlfriend and he's like, and I did like 842 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 1: endeavor to make myself overly familiar to her, to which 843 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:39,880 Speaker 1: she did reject soundly my advances, and I did hitherto 844 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:45,680 Speaker 1: regret such advances, and it proudly destroyed the friendship. Oh 845 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,120 Speaker 1: and it is so like, okay, you're rich inventor. Friend 846 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,760 Speaker 1: is coming over and right, and then she's like pouring 847 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 1: more Madera wine and being like okay, So Collins is 848 00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:01,960 Speaker 1: still like in Birmingshire and ever like he's not coming back, 849 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:06,959 Speaker 1: like let's ride this pony. Is this like rom com 850 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,200 Speaker 1: where Emily Blunt is like flirting but also like not 851 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:16,080 Speaker 1: having Absolutely every woman in this book is Emily Blunt. 852 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,240 Speaker 1: I'd like, so I meant could be a little Ana Kendrick, 853 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,840 Speaker 1: but oh there's some Kendricks up in Philly for sure. No, 854 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:30,040 Speaker 1: that's fair. Okay, how doth he live? So I mean 855 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,040 Speaker 1: the way he puts it is like, I mean, this 856 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,560 Speaker 1: is saying he doesn't need much, right, because this is 857 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,560 Speaker 1: the scene where he like is mad at his wife 858 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,720 Speaker 1: or buying the china. He's like, we kept no idle servants. 859 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 1: Our table was plain and simple. Our furniture of the cheapest. 860 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,359 Speaker 1: For instance, my breakfast was a long time bread and milk. 861 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:52,600 Speaker 1: No tea. It's like, okay, because tea is so and 862 00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:56,160 Speaker 1: I ate it out of a twopenny earthen porringer with 863 00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:00,359 Speaker 1: a pewter spoon. It's like, okay, the poverty com play. 864 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,880 Speaker 1: Can we just simmer down? Well? I think in his 865 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,920 Speaker 1: like early zene making life, and this is also just 866 00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 1: so like hello, like all punks in the eighties and 867 00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,840 Speaker 1: now they're all doing fucking ads for Spotify and Uber. 868 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:18,680 Speaker 1: Is that like he was this badass zine maker in 869 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,479 Speaker 1: you know, the early seventeen hundreds, and by seventeen eighty 870 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:27,560 Speaker 1: he realizes he's become this like fat forty a morning 871 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,120 Speaker 1: five tongues and takes. Also in his little he makes 872 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,080 Speaker 1: fun of himself for writing carriages everywhere, not walking at all, 873 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,920 Speaker 1: and so he's like constantly in a car. No, we 874 00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,080 Speaker 1: become what we once hated and we but you know, 875 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:40,719 Speaker 1: it's like you and I sit here and we think 876 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,279 Speaker 1: we're like so fucking cool, with our rag tyg pod. 877 00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,800 Speaker 1: But soon enough we're going to be so Chelsea Handler 878 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,120 Speaker 1: and like rolling out of Bad and getting seven ubers 879 00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,000 Speaker 1: to a podcast studio to record like one twenty minute 880 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:57,880 Speaker 1: podcast a month, doing so many ads for like the 881 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,560 Speaker 1: beef Tongue a reason that we once. I'm like always 882 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 1: holding a Netflix pilot, like's like at the at the 883 00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:12,440 Speaker 1: largest like outdoor table. Okay, who are you in? But um, 884 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:17,000 Speaker 1: I mean I will say there's definitely like I think 885 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,200 Speaker 1: parts of Franklin to both of us. Yeah, you know, 886 00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:28,239 Speaker 1: we can be headstrong, stubborn, arrogant absolutely to gas it 887 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:32,520 Speaker 1: up with our fellow like secret Society members and just 888 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,400 Speaker 1: be like, oh we're closing the curtains and like deciding 889 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,600 Speaker 1: on the price of silver. Yeah, And like he literally 890 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:41,480 Speaker 1: is such a podcaster. M and I do think we 891 00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,440 Speaker 1: would figure out a way to like not involve ourselves 892 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:48,120 Speaker 1: in the Revolutionary War. Yeah, Because he also says, like 893 00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,560 Speaker 1: you know, at least in the book so far or 894 00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 1: like the memoir up until this point, he's like he's 895 00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,120 Speaker 1: not doesn't seem like he's so anti British. He's just 896 00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 1: kind of being like he's pro the colonies being able 897 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,879 Speaker 1: to defend themselves, Like he's more focused on the French 898 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:04,680 Speaker 1: and Indian War, I guess, but it's like he's not 899 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:09,000 Speaker 1: even necessarily questioning like Britain's, Like he's kind of like, 900 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,920 Speaker 1: how do we make this work better? He ultimate have 901 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,160 Speaker 1: like not really realized that they could like be so 902 00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:19,080 Speaker 1: revolution Yeah, Like I don't. I think Hamilton was a 903 00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:25,480 Speaker 1: little more you watch the musical and like Paramount Plus, Yeah, 904 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,880 Speaker 1: I watched on Disney Plus. I'm just saying like Hamilton's 905 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:29,960 Speaker 1: was being a little more revolution and I feel like 906 00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,360 Speaker 1: Ben Franklin was like, well, let's figure out like Stove 907 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,879 Speaker 1: I mean, he definitely was doing what was good for herself, 908 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:42,080 Speaker 1: like get your back yet back, got your stove bag 909 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:46,080 Speaker 1: first and that. But then he has this note in 910 00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:50,080 Speaker 1: my um version that he's like what I find wrong 911 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,920 Speaker 1: about the Constitution. He's like, look, bitch, it's not perfect, 912 00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,480 Speaker 1: but like you try getting all these homes to agree, 913 00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,600 Speaker 1: like it's as good, like we did what needed and 914 00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,240 Speaker 1: like it's more impressive than anything else like the Brutish 915 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:09,000 Speaker 1: could do. I mean tea, I'm sorry, no tea, no tea. 916 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:15,319 Speaker 1: I was like, I am definitely eating three rolls down 917 00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,560 Speaker 1: the street and then someone is like, hey, did I 918 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:21,839 Speaker 1: see you walking down eating three rolls? Yeah? And I'm 919 00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:26,040 Speaker 1: just like oops. I love when he throws his friend 920 00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,120 Speaker 1: out the boat who like refuses to row when they're 921 00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,480 Speaker 1: like having to row at the end of this like 922 00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,600 Speaker 1: long astornady and the friend is being so annoying to me, 923 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,520 Speaker 1: like I'm not rowing. He's like, we're literally throwing you 924 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,640 Speaker 1: out the boat. And then the friend is just like 925 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,840 Speaker 1: kind of swimming alongside and being like help me, and 926 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:42,200 Speaker 1: he's like, are you going to row? And the friends 927 00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,840 Speaker 1: just being like, no, I'm not. And then he's just 928 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:46,640 Speaker 1: like fine, then you're not getting back in the boat. 929 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,840 Speaker 1: That is so you because you were coxin and I 930 00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,280 Speaker 1: feel like you would just be like fucking with someone 931 00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:57,080 Speaker 1: like via row boat. But neither of us are being like, oh, 932 00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,439 Speaker 1: if you play chess with mebe have to only speak 933 00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,440 Speaker 1: in Itali and while we do it, like we're not 934 00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,759 Speaker 1: such nerds. Well I mean, I I don't know, maybe 935 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,479 Speaker 1: you are. Actually you are just being like we're playing 936 00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:11,319 Speaker 1: bananagrams in French. Okay, actually you are been Franklin. I'm 937 00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:17,200 Speaker 1: pretty nerdy. I've liter have been playing orlog all week, 938 00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:24,240 Speaker 1: which is a fictional Norse game. But that almost sounds 939 00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:28,600 Speaker 1: like too much a leisure Ben Franklin, Well, you know 940 00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,279 Speaker 1: it's it's a it's an exercise of the mind. It 941 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,480 Speaker 1: involves a great deal of strategy. Okay, so you're Franklin. 942 00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:40,120 Speaker 1: I'm partially Franklin, but also like partially his like printing 943 00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:45,759 Speaker 1: zine workers that are having Yeah, he'll all day, he 944 00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:53,280 Speaker 1: all day. Motherfucker's wow. I mean, what a what a journey. 945 00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,200 Speaker 1: I started reading this on Sunday. I start to mead 946 00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,080 Speaker 1: this months ago. I can't believe you fucking mainline. This 947 00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:03,160 Speaker 1: like a good, good ass Dying of Ale. Yeah, literally, 948 00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:07,520 Speaker 1: like the Dwarfs sam Adam's Scholar. I am, um, yeah, 949 00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,160 Speaker 1: I like this book a lot. I think in many 950 00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,600 Speaker 1: ways it's certainly more packed with like plot in detail 951 00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,080 Speaker 1: than Grant's book is if if we're just talking about 952 00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,480 Speaker 1: old ass books we've read, Um, yeah, for sure. I 953 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,040 Speaker 1: was like, he's way more personal, like we would be 954 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,759 Speaker 1: chilling with Franklin, way more of like straight guys. Yeah, 955 00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:30,240 Speaker 1: and Grant is like silent guy. Yeah, the silent boyfriend 956 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,000 Speaker 1: that you're like, oh, I mean grantedly talking when he's drunk, 957 00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:37,160 Speaker 1: but like you're like, wow, Grant, like is fun when 958 00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,640 Speaker 1: we went out to that brewery last night, like I 959 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,880 Speaker 1: wasn't expecting. Yeah, usually he's so jos. He actually kind 960 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:46,160 Speaker 1: of came out of his shell a little bit and Franklin, 961 00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,560 Speaker 1: you're like meeting him a variety being like, wait, you're 962 00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:57,280 Speaker 1: like a bug. He's literally so for honestly old timey memoirs. 963 00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,560 Speaker 1: I even though there was like stuff that I was 964 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:05,799 Speaker 1: like really bored by, but like with sweeping and electrical 965 00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:09,560 Speaker 1: like chords. I give it kind of a four point one. 966 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:13,120 Speaker 1: I'm just like, this is a pretty sassy book. Yeah, 967 00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:18,120 Speaker 1: I give it like four out of five iron stoves. 968 00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,840 Speaker 1: I do think, I mean it's not finished. Does my 969 00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:23,440 Speaker 1: issue with it? I'm kind of like it just kind 970 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:28,000 Speaker 1: of yeah, I want more like the script I love Yeah, 971 00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,279 Speaker 1: well I love that. Yeah, And there's like this whole 972 00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,040 Speaker 1: I mean, all the Almanic in the back, which is 973 00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,200 Speaker 1: literally he's so Susie Orman and he's just being like, 974 00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:37,960 Speaker 1: how to save a penny the way to wealth, like 975 00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:42,240 Speaker 1: how to get one hundred pounds sterling within like within 976 00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:46,439 Speaker 1: six years or whatever. Oh yeah, sorry, four point one 977 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:51,040 Speaker 1: barrels of rum out of five barrels of rum right, okay, 978 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,520 Speaker 1: speaking of rum like one of the pieces of advice 979 00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,120 Speaker 1: and how to save money. This is what's so Susie 980 00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,879 Speaker 1: Orman about him. When you incline to drink rum, fill 981 00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,840 Speaker 1: the glass half with water. Thus the year's end, there 982 00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,440 Speaker 1: will be one hundred thousand pounds more money in your country. 983 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,120 Speaker 1: Like it's so Cusioman saying, like buy wine and beer, 984 00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,160 Speaker 1: not ten, but the entire nation should just always water 985 00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:17,439 Speaker 1: down there rum. Yeah, uh yeah, so I go before 986 00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:18,800 Speaker 1: if I would like to hear more about like you know, 987 00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:20,880 Speaker 1: the revolution, and like more gossip about like Adams and 988 00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,320 Speaker 1: Jefferson and stuff. But I mean it is in say 989 00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,040 Speaker 1: that we're like, here's my complaining about this book. It 990 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:31,440 Speaker 1: wasn't enough. I want another four hundred pages. Sorry, I 991 00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:35,160 Speaker 1: guess book firms over. We want dusty ass gossip. But 992 00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,280 Speaker 1: look there's another book and things are going to get 993 00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,640 Speaker 1: a little more modern. Next week we will be reading 994 00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:53,040 Speaker 1: Rough DMX, Top Dog Daily, Departed Rapper Business actor DMX 995 00:57:53,640 --> 00:58:03,280 Speaker 1: and his book Earl Earl Okay, so cool and not 996 00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,160 Speaker 1: around For the VIP lounge, we are going to give 997 00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,440 Speaker 1: you all of the dirty details about Nantucket Island from 998 00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,440 Speaker 1: Stephen and Lily's perspectives, where to go, what to do, 999 00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:15,240 Speaker 1: who to fuck, what, what rank? What to drank? Who 1000 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,800 Speaker 1: to sail with? What yacht to fuck on? Um, stay 1001 00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,240 Speaker 1: tuned and stay with us and hop on the ferry 1002 00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 1: CODs up, bitches, best best, Welcome to the vip Lounge, Ladies. 1003 00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,160 Speaker 1: We are far from New York City. We are in 1004 00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,600 Speaker 1: a very different lounge. We are in a salty, salty lounge. 1005 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:47,920 Speaker 1: We are on the wind swept, washed ashore exclusive island 1006 00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:53,959 Speaker 1: of Nantucket, Massachusetts. Crash Yeah, this vip lounge. We're gonna 1007 00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:57,600 Speaker 1: be talking all things Nantucket. Lilyan Steven's Crazy Guy to Nantucket. 1008 00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:01,680 Speaker 1: We're talking bitches, We're talking guy, We're talking bookstores, We're 1009 00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:06,880 Speaker 1: talking best lobster rules. Let's get right into it, Lily. 1010 00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:08,760 Speaker 1: I know you've sent a lot of time in the island. 1011 00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:10,640 Speaker 1: This is a place for me. It's kind of one 1012 00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,120 Speaker 1: of my ancestral homes. Um. I love to come here 1013 00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,080 Speaker 1: every summer, and of course I'm actually even here in 1014 00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,800 Speaker 1: the winter right now where it does pop off as 1015 00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:21,640 Speaker 1: the case maybe. And there's a lot of great restaurants, 1016 00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,720 Speaker 1: and it can sometimes be kind of almost confusing to 1017 00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,560 Speaker 1: know which one should I go to It's so hard, 1018 00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,680 Speaker 1: especially if you're on vacation and you only have a 1019 00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,600 Speaker 1: little bit of time. You want to behaving the most 1020 00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,040 Speaker 1: amazing spots and you don't want to get ripped off 1021 00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:39,440 Speaker 1: because Labster prices, maket price. You could get ripped off 1022 00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:42,760 Speaker 1: by a crudeo, you know what I mean. So I've 1023 00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:44,680 Speaker 1: never been really ripped off because when I go to 1024 00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:46,960 Speaker 1: tuck and I say, with Stephen's parents, let's just say, 1025 00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,840 Speaker 1: I don't pay for much. You know, when I go 1026 00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,080 Speaker 1: home to the I don't see your wallet the whole time. 1027 00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,560 Speaker 1: It really is that thing where I'm like, did I 1028 00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:58,080 Speaker 1: lose my wallet or oh it's just been kind of 1029 00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:01,280 Speaker 1: in an old, musty drawer for the week. 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