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Speaker 1: Hello Texans. Good evening everyone. We are back in the

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Speaker 1: Hunday Texans Radio studio for Texans All Access off last

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Speaker 1: night because of the game. Mark Vanderman or John Harris

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Speaker 1: with you as we dissect what happened in the preseason

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Speaker 1: opener and what's to come with a very busy week

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Speaker 1: for your Texans and Johnny, I do love being back home,

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Speaker 1: but I also miss Butler Cabin back at the Greenbrier.

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Speaker 1: I gotta admit I do as well. I am so

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Speaker 1: glad to be home. I will be completely honest with

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Speaker 1: you about that. I'm so glad to be home. But

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Speaker 1: our little creature comforts out there are our radio booth outside,

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Speaker 1: our tent. Radio tent outside was fantastic. We had a

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Speaker 1: great view of practice, the weather great. But I looked

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Speaker 1: forward to our All Access segments where we could go

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Speaker 1: to Butler Cabin and hang out and watch them, watch

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Speaker 1: everybody golf finish up, eighteen year old white grabbing arm

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Speaker 1: palmer and just get our show done. And it was

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Speaker 1: I look forward to that time of year and it's

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Speaker 1: always it's always a fun time. We'll be back on

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Speaker 1: Texans Money. Texans Monday shows start on Monday, right so

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Speaker 1: we're looking forward to that. But our Texas training Camp

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Speaker 1: live shows, which I absolutely love, we won't unfortunately have

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Speaker 1: those anymore. But it was a good two week run.

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Speaker 1: And I read about this a little bit. Mark. There's

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Speaker 1: there's always when you have a good run kind of

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Speaker 1: to start training camp, you kind of want to finish

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Speaker 1: you with a win. Even though it look if the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs had scored in a two point conversion made eighteen

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Speaker 1: seventeen to win, that's something you would have felt good

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Speaker 1: about what you've done. But just getting that win and

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Speaker 1: kind of put the caper on, Yeah, what's what's really been?

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Speaker 1: I think a really efficient and effective two weeks up

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Speaker 1: in West Virginia. Kansas City, no question. But while you're

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Speaker 1: on the subject winning in the preseason, yeah, we all

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Speaker 1: know it doesn't mean anything, but there's just something about

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Speaker 1: it because in a sportscast, for instance, or any kind

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Speaker 1: of headline on Twitter or wherever you get your sports information,

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Speaker 1: it would be Texans beat the Chiefs or Texans lose

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Speaker 1: to the Chiefs. There's just something psychological about it. And

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Speaker 1: it's great to see the threes, some of the fours

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Speaker 1: come in with that final stop because the Chiefs had

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Speaker 1: the ball for what twenty three plays, and they eventually

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Speaker 1: hit a wall inside the five, And that was a

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Speaker 1: fun way to end the game. In a preseason context,

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Speaker 1: that was a fun way to play. I mean, it

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Speaker 1: was just interesting and entertaining to see it all come

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Speaker 1: down to that. And you see some guys making plays

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Speaker 1: that whether they have a shot to make the team

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Speaker 1: or not, no matter what. They played an NFL game

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Speaker 1: last night and they made a play at the end

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Speaker 1: of the game. I think Nick Thurman from uh coming

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Speaker 1: then they were able to rally and get there. It

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Speaker 1: one if they interference and that forced them to have

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Speaker 1: to throw on third down and throw them again on

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Speaker 1: fourth down. So just being out there for an NFL

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Speaker 1: game is one thing, but then go ahead and making

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Speaker 1: a play that you always have with you no matter what.

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Speaker 1: Remember that time I had that goal line stand play.

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Speaker 1: Remember that you always tell your buddies. Yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: played in the NFL and when we played against the Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: I made this stop down on the goal line. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you don't have to tell it's a preseason game. You

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Speaker 1: don't have't tell anything. You made us and there's video

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Speaker 1: evidence of you video making a stop against the Chiefs. Well,

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Speaker 1: so that's cool. Every year when the preseason comes out,

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Speaker 1: and Landry, we're talking about this the other day about

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Speaker 1: preseason great moments or something like that, and that's sort

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Speaker 1: that on Texans extra Points. You know, great moments in

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Speaker 1: the preseason, you can't call them great. But every April,

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Speaker 1: when the schedule comes out, just the preseason slate, I

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Speaker 1: do something on my preseason memories. And you know, I

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Speaker 1: Webb was highly entertaining. I mean, I would love to

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Speaker 1: the fact that they got pressure on Kansas City with

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Speaker 1: Smith and Mahomes is the man, and you want to

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Speaker 1: come out and do something positive. Don't have to score necessarily,

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Speaker 1: They're getting pressure on without five of their front seven players,

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Speaker 1: and that I don't want to state it like that

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Speaker 1: necessarily because it doesn't give justice to what Duke edja

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Speaker 1: I think that that was my biggest takeaway of the evening. Man,

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Speaker 1: Let's just see what those defense can turn into this year. Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it goes without saying I think you.

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Speaker 1: I think we do have to mention it and remind

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Speaker 1: everybody and sometimes remind ourselves. Romeo Cornell is back as

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Speaker 1: of the things they did last year were things that

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Speaker 1: they did with Romeo. But there's something about having Romeo

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Speaker 1: guy handling things and on top of that, that's that's

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Speaker 1: one thing. The other thing that's out to me to

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Speaker 1: clowney merciless reader, You didn't play four those guys, and

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Speaker 1: But what do we always say, if you're going to

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Speaker 1: If you put Covington in the game, he's gonna get pressure.

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Speaker 1: but Christian Covington is one of the better interior rushers

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Speaker 1: and it's the same guy. It's it's their offensive line

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Speaker 1: and they're going to work. And so the thing that

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Speaker 1: stood out to me was the depth that they have. Listen,

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Speaker 1: depth on a defensive line, and as camp was going on,

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Speaker 1: I was certainly not worried about the depth at outside

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Speaker 1: possible factor, They're gonna be totally fine. OUTSI linebacker, I'm

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Speaker 1: god the Chiefs played their dudes because Justin Reids, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna look at Travis Kelcey, He's got to see Gronkowski

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Speaker 1: I think honestly the defense could probably keep one or

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Speaker 1: you've got more overall quality depth than what you've had,

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Speaker 1: which I think may sound weird to keep fewer guys.

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Speaker 1: We've got more just the quality of depth you're gonna have,

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Speaker 1: right and considering who you lost last year. I just

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Speaker 1: and I really want to be specific about so far. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: next week we might feel differently, but we feel that

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Speaker 1: them in camp, we felt a certain way. But you

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Speaker 1: want to see it against another team. You just don't know,

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Speaker 1: and we saw a lot of good battles offense versus defense.

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Speaker 1: I think we talked about this the other night. You

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Speaker 1: just don't know because the defense is making plays, the

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Speaker 1: But then last night you see the results and and

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Speaker 1: game mattered. I'll use that word carefully because it really

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Speaker 1: to individuals. Actually before we do that, another position group,

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Speaker 1: offensive line. Yeah, Bill O'Brian said today, Yeah, he would

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Speaker 1: that there's an opportunity there, especially especially Bruce, because Bruce

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Speaker 1: and keyk are that same guy. Braxton's done some inside,

429
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,640
Speaker 1: some outside. He's done a number of different things. But

430
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Speaker 1: it just feels so much more comfortable, or it looks

431
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 1: comfortable watching Braxton as a rookie. Did was he gonna

432
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,280
Speaker 1: run the right route? Did he know what route to run?

433
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 1: Was he exactly sure about it? You can tell he's

434
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 1: got the offense down, he's comfortable in it, he's comfortable

435
00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,359
Speaker 1: getting to a spot. So the last night, which looks

436
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,960
Speaker 1: better just catching the football? Yes, every everything looks And

437
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 1: that's the other thing. Bruce didn't hang on to that one.

438
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,920
Speaker 1: I think it may have been Wheaton's first throw. That

439
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,400
Speaker 1: ball is throw. That's a tough catch. He's going he's

440
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 1: going to cross the field and the balls back behind him.

441
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 1: He thought he should have had it, and Brandon's like,

442
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 1: I should have made a better throw. It's one of

443
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Speaker 1: those gonna be accurate, Yeah, exactly, Brandon's got to be

444
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 1: more accurate. But but the way they caught the Boss

445
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 1: to night, I thought phenomen Those two guys had to

446
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,160
Speaker 1: Sammy Coates had to do something. How about this though,

447
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:55,880
Speaker 1: let me interrupt you for a moment. As I say

448
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,639
Speaker 1: that Wheaton was nine for eleven, I mean that was

449
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 1: it ain't completion? Yeah, And I was trying to one

450
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Speaker 1: of what that was one of two. I was trying

451
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Speaker 1: to think what the other incompletion was because he was

452
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Speaker 1: so surgical last night. We had looked highly accurate last night,

453
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Speaker 1: and that's why that one sort of stands out. It's like,

454
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Speaker 1: how did you miss that one? Because that was actually

455
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 1: a throw that you didn't have to do much. I

456
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 1: know you have to step up and play fake and

457
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 1: all that, but anyway, yeah, the the receivers. Here's the

458
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 1: other thing about Wheaton two on the first touchdown drive.

459
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,679
Speaker 1: He found Braxton, he found Bruce, he found Sammy. Now

460
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,119
Speaker 1: he went to Sammy a couple of times and he

461
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Speaker 1: got the penalties. There's gotta be a way that we

462
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Speaker 1: can give a wide receiver some credit, credits or value

463
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Speaker 1: some for because doing it for years, Johnny, I give

464
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Speaker 1: Corey Bradford credit for the first history of the franchise

465
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Speaker 1: for drawing pass interference. No, I'm not saying you. I

466
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Speaker 1: mean you always give credit. We always give credit, but

467
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Speaker 1: there's got to be some statistical or quantitative measure we

468
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Speaker 1: can give to a receiver. I mean that was that

469
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,239
Speaker 1: was a defensive pass interference for I don't know what

470
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Speaker 1: twenty yards and Emerson. That shouldn't Sammy coach gets some

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Speaker 1: sort of credit because when there's a goaltending, doesn't the

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Speaker 1: guy get a basket? Yeah? Yeah, so something think about

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Speaker 1: either way. But it's like Hopkins, right, the coaches no, Well,

474
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 1: the coaches no, he'll catch six for eighty six, but

475
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 1: there'll be three other penalties that will count for another

476
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Speaker 1: fifty yard. I don't know how they do it. This

477
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,959
Speaker 1: is a good question for a'brian during one of our shows.

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Speaker 1: Do you track that? How do you track that. Of

479
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 1: course they track it. Hopkins is gonna draw flags, right,

480
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 1: so they have flags drawn stats, and I know Pro

481
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 1: Football Focus does stuff like that too, but I want

482
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Speaker 1: to see how the coaches actually quantify that. Right. Either way,

483
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 1: there's there should be some sort of quantifiable value in that.

484
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 1: But Sammy has those two penalties on the scoring drive,

485
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 1: then he catches a route on that drive. Then Bruce

486
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:54,919
Speaker 1: caught one, Braxton caught one, Tremaine Pope caught one against

487
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,919
Speaker 1: that corner. He runs a hitch round third down and

488
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 1: catches it and Steven Nelson isn't able to get there.

489
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 1: And then Jordan Nakins here. He spread the ball around everybody,

490
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Speaker 1: which I think is fantastic. That's another guy we've been

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Speaker 1: talking about for a couple of weeks, troybet Pope. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you know, we we got you prepared, folks. We

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Speaker 1: told you watch out for thirty three. He's gonna play

494
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Speaker 1: a lot in this game. He's gonna make plays because

495
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 1: you know what, Blue is Lamar Miller is not gonna

496
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: play a much. Thirty three is gonna play. There's no

497
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 1: diate Foreman. He's going to play. Irvin doesn't get in

498
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Speaker 1: until later at running back. Did Swanson gonna carry? I

499
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,159
Speaker 1: don't think he did. Swanson was at the very end

500
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,439
Speaker 1: for a victor information and Coleman gotta carry. Yeah, that

501
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,679
Speaker 1: went nowhere. So Pope's gonna play. Yeah, there's no question.

502
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: I think. I think Pope's gonna play. And I know

503
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 1: and I've seen some tweets today and we've talked about this.

504
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 1: The depth that running back is is a concern. But

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00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,719
Speaker 1: the way that Pope played last night, and you know

506
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Speaker 1: what you have with Blue and obviously you know what

507
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Speaker 1: you have with Lamar. I've said when I do my

508
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,959
Speaker 1: fifty three, I we've done the fifty three. Those are

509
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Speaker 1: the three guys, And I know people were sort of surprised,

510
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 1: like who's this thirty three? I mean, look, you throw

511
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 1: him a hitch out, then you run screens to him

512
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 1: and he gets open field. Uh. And he's dynamic in

513
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 1: the open field because he's so quick. He's just a

514
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 1: little jitterbug. But then he runs the ball between the

515
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: tackles and he's tough. He's like if you watch walk

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Speaker 1: next to Pope, I'm telling you he's not five seven

517
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Speaker 1: and a half. I mean he is. He's built exactly

518
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,959
Speaker 1: like Ja Quiz Rogers, who I've been a big fan

519
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 1: of for a long time and with the market so

520
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 1: holidays playing the league for a long time. He's built

521
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: just like Jack Quiz. I think he's a little He's

522
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Speaker 1: probably a little bit quicker. Quiz is probably a little

523
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 1: bit stronger. But man is he strong. I mean, you

524
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 1: see him. He's a breakout quicker than Quiz. Uh just

525
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: just buy a hair but yeah, but lateral or something. Yeah,

526
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Speaker 1: But I think I think both of them are built similarly.

527
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Speaker 1: They have similar assets. Let me throw this one out

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Speaker 1: there for you just quickly. Here kickoff returns for Pope.

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Speaker 1: You know he's back there, but he's not the main

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Speaker 1: return He's he's one of the three guys. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: was Pope, Webb and Irvan. That's that's the crazy It's

532
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: the it's the crazy thing about Joe Wells. I mean,

533
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. But but I don't know that I I would

534
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Speaker 1: do I have Pope. I don't know that he's got

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Speaker 1: that kind of kickoff returns you need. I mean, think

536
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Speaker 1: about the great kickoff returners did mean Devin Hester. It

537
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: wasn't so much quickness with Hester as it was. There

538
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 1: was a different gear and he knew when to throw

539
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Speaker 1: it into that other gear, so that I think is

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Speaker 1: what makes a great kick returner. But again, hopefully QT

541
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: will be back at some point he can get in

542
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 1: that mix as well to see what they've got there.

543
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: Sammy Coates has been back there a little bit, but

544
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Speaker 1: I thought the receivers overall, I was a little disappointed

545
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: that Jester didn't hang out to that one at the end,

546
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Speaker 1: Jester Weia, because I felt like the third and fourth

547
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: quarters we're gonna turn over to Vincent Smith and Jester Weia,

548
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 1: and those are two guys that have had really good

549
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: camps and I just wanted one of them, like both,

550
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: but one of them, one of them to make plays

551
00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 1: and go, hey, don't forget about us. We're some young

552
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 1: guys over here. Don't forget about us. And I thought

553
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: that was a brilliant throw from Joey, just Jesture wasn't

554
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: able to hang on. I mean, it was just a

555
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: hair off. It was a good route. We'll stop and

556
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 1: go a little stutter and go double move and Jess

557
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: you're just unable to hang out to it. Ironically, he

558
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 1: caught that same pass. I don't know how many times

559
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: of training camp I know himself and thinking about that,

560
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: and we'll see how he bounces back. Hey, let me

561
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: go back to special teams for a moment. I know

562
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 1: we're kind of all over the place, but whatever, we've

563
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: had two hours sleep. We're just doing the show here,

564
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: So kickoff returns. Let me go layman on you here,

565
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: because I honestly cannot answer this question. I have the question,

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00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 1: and I kind of answer it. Now, you don't have

567
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: any wedges anymore. They phased out wedges as the years

568
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 1: go by, and then there was the mini wedge, and

569
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: now there's no wedge, right, So why are you still

570
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 1: running to the middle of the field, Like if you

571
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: catch the ball at the goal line ish outside of

572
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: hash mark, Why does the return man still run to

573
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Speaker 1: the middle of the field and sort of begin his

574
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Speaker 1: return if you know what I'm saying. He's not running

575
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Speaker 1: straight to the middle of the field east west, but

576
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: he's kind of going, you know, northwest, toward the middle

577
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: to get behind some blockers. I get it, you want

578
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 1: to get behind blockers, but there's no wedge. So why

579
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 1: don't I just hit it straight and get as much

580
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: yardage as I can and just maybe make one move

581
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 1: and try to make half the field miss because now

582
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 1: I'm running toward where everybody can sort of converge on me.

583
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 1: That's a question I have. It's the only thing I

584
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: could probably say to that. If both teams do it,

585
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: by the way, right, you can have you gotta have

586
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: five guys on each side, and yeah, you can align

587
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: different ways. But sometimes what ends up happening because you've

588
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: got the kicker in the middle of the field, that's

589
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: where you have the biggest gap between the five between

590
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: the five players, but you don't get there fast enough.

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00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,479
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter right because those five guys do exactly

592
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: what you said. What do they do? They start converging

593
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: to the middle and kind of they run down field,

594
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: but as they're running down field, they're kind of working

595
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: towards the middle. But sometimes what ends up happening those

596
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: five guys don't close the middle down and then you

597
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: kick him out and you get that laying up the middle.

598
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: That's kind of what it's kind of what you walk.

599
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: You're banking on that instead of just hit hitting it right.

600
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm totally crazy. If I go right up the sideline,

601
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: all right, now, I know those five guys are gonna

602
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: come to the sideline, but I do have some blocking help,

603
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: so I don't know how to gauge home a little bit.

604
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: But they also gain a six defender. They gain a

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00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: six defender with that, So they honestly, those five guys

606
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: what they end up if they know that you've got

607
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: a sideline return, then they're gonna come down. Those five

608
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: are gonna come down and instead of basically standing in

609
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: the lanes, they'll just move. They'll just move towards the

610
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: middle of the field and just kind of hem you

611
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: into the sideline. Now you have no way to cut back, right,

612
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: So at least if you go to the middle, one

613
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: side or the other might open up, and yeah, exactly,

614
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: you might be able to get start to the middle

615
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: and go, okay, there's something back over here, or you

616
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: might I think it was Tyler last night that started

617
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: to the middle and then it was like, oh man,

618
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: I gotta bounce this thing and started to bounce it

619
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: out to them and he didn't get all the way out,

620
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: but let's kind of hope you kind of suck him

621
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: in and then you're able to kind of bounce out

622
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: from there. So again that goes back to great kickoff

623
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: returners have got that other gear that when they get

624
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: and they do something like that when they start to

625
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: go to the middle, and also they see it, they're gone.

626
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: Did one of all the returns we saw last night,

627
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: I think only one got outside the twenty five yard

628
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: line from either team? I think that was I think

629
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: it was them, so to met Smith to me, all right,

630
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: so despite the no running start, eh, you know you

631
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: still you what did we say? You'll put smaller, faster guys.

632
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: All right, So maybe the collisions are gonna be as violent,

633
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: but you're gonna get more kickoff returns. You're gonna the

634
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: old Belichick from Week three of twenty sixteen. Make him running,

635
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: make him return it. Yep, you're gonna get a lot

636
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: of that because I'll take the chance of hemming somebody

637
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,239
Speaker 1: inside the twenty five or twenty as opposed to just

638
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: spotting them at the twenty five yard line if I

639
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Speaker 1: poot it through the end zone. I don't want to

640
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Speaker 1: give them that. That always bothered me. Why am I

641
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: giving them five yards? Why don't I take my chances

642
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: that I can pin them inside the twenty five? Yeah? Well, no,

643
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: that's just me talking. I think, as far as it

644
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: pertains to the Texans. I think there are a couple things.

645
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: Number One, you have Brad Seey running the special teams.

646
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: I think the second thing is you've I think you've

647
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: got faster, quicker, more agile, better personnel running on special teams.

648
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: So I think it's a combination of those two things

649
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: right now. Now, we'll see how it transpires as we

650
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: get to the season, because some of those guys running

651
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: down special teams last night may not make the roster,

652
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: so you're gonna have to make some changes. But what

653
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: you see the guys run down, I mean, heck, Joe

654
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: Webb made contact after Aiken's second touchdown. He's the one

655
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: who makes contact at the ten yard line. You got

656
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: quarterback running down, making contact and he almost came up

657
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: with the tack. He's mad himself. He didn't make the

658
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: tackle that would have We would have gone crazy. Had

659
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: he made that tackle on special teams, we would have

660
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: absolutely gone. We're gonna have to create when when he's

661
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: active on the forty six, We're gonna have to create

662
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: like web stats like like he this this is the

663
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: Joe Webb. You know how when Gordy Howe, what they

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00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: called the Gordy Howe hat trick. Yeah, it was a

665
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: goal assistant a fight. We're gonna have to come up

666
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: with like the Joe Webb like triple threat something like that.

667
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: Had a tackle on webcam. Oh okay, stop, we've kind

668
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: of ignored the player of the game and the position

669
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: group he participates in. Let's get to that and other

670
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: stuff on Texans All Access recapping the preseason opener Here

671
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: in the Hunday Texans Radio studio, Mark Vandermaer and John

672
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: Harris with you. Okay, we talked about a bunch of

673
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: different things, and we went off on a big special

674
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: teams tangent. But what the heck, it's football talk. It's fun.

675
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: And by the way, Monday morning, eight to ten am

676
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: our season premiere of Texans Monday, We'll be live at

677
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: the Houston Methodist Training Center as the team practices outside,

678
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: and we'll be drinking lots of water and coffee. That's

679
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: what I'll do, all right, So let's do this. Jordan Nakens,

680
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: I can't believe we've gotten this deep in the show

681
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: without focusing on him. He catches two touchdowns and look

682
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: as Bill O'Brien might say, no one sending him to Canton.

683
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: The bust has not been created yet, but he did

684
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: catch two touchdown passes in a preseason game, only player

685
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: in franchise history to do that. It's funny because Omar

686
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: from Texas PR was like, does that sound right? You

687
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: know they went through every game so they knew. And

688
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, if you guys went through every game,

689
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: because if you just asked me, I'd say, well, did

690
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: Jacobe do something like that in No. Seven? Because that's

691
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: one thing I want to think about, or did somebody

692
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: in oh eight manage to do it. There was one

693
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: game in New Orleans when shav And Rosenfels just threw

694
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Speaker 1: for a gazillion yards on the Saints in a preseason game,

695
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: preseason Week three. So I thought maybe that one you'd

696
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: see a two touchdown reception game. But it's never happened

697
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: till last night. Eight who at the Greenbrier I think

698
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: looked good, but I saw a lot of guys look good. Yeah,

699
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 1: you know, and he looked real good last night. Running routes.

700
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: Jordan Thomas. We haven't seen much from him yet, but

701
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Speaker 1: I want you to comment on Aikens, Johnny. But before that,

702
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: the tight end group going into the off season, we

703
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: knew they needed fortification. I mean, we knew that c

704
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: J Fedorowitz. I don't know if we when we knew that,

705
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: but at some point he retired. Yeah, Griffin's back Anderson

706
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 1: you still need blocking because he's a good receiving tight end.

707
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: But man, have they really helped themselves at that position group,

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Speaker 1: No question. I watched. I haven't gone back and seen

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Speaker 1: the second touchdown, but I went back and I watched

710
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: the first touchdown with Aikins and they were covering him

711
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: with a nickel guy, and I thought it was fascinating

712
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: because the nickel guy whoever I'm trying to remember, ming Golden,

713
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: I can't remember, but he had outside leverage on Aikins

714
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: and Aikins ran in out route. He ran a little

715
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 1: flat rod. He got to the inside of the goal

716
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: line and then ran out. When Aikins got to the

717
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 1: hop of where he was going before he broke out,

718
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 1: that guy was outside of him. When Aiken's then exploded

719
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: to the corner, that guy was then a step or

720
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: two behind him. Wow, it was like whoa. I mean,

721
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: he hit the juice at that moment and I watched,

722
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, he had to push off like

723
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: you don't that he put too open. I went back.

724
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: He did not push off. He absolutely The only thing

725
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: he did was when he cut. It looks almost like

726
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: he does because you know you're making a cut and

727
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: you really kind of fire your arms to get there.

728
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: But he never pushed off. Hey that's an Andrey Johnson technique.

729
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: But he but he didn't without contact with Yeah, he

730
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 1: didn't make contact with him. Got the separation and then

731
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: and then here's the thing. How many times have we

732
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: seen a guy do everything right, especially rookie, do everything right.

733
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: Routes right, everything's great. And he dropped the pass and

734
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: that was not any I mean he had to go

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00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: down and get that thing, scoop it up and got

736
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: the touchdown. And then the second one he I mean

737
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: he but the first one was like four six yards

738
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: in the second one was fourteen. Because he has two

739
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 1: for twenty for two yards, two touchdowns. The second one

740
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: is the one I got excited with because he's now

741
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: showing that there are multiple ways you can get him

742
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 1: the ball in the red zone because now you're in

743
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: the red zone against the Texas. Okay, your defensive coording

744
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: and you're facing the Texas. You get down in the

745
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: red zone, and they got eighty three at tight end,

746
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: They've got they've got eighty eight as the you know,

747
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: the h back or eighty three or eighty four tight end.

748
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: Take your pick, whether it's Ryan Griffin or whether it's

749
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: they got two those three guys in the field. You

750
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: got Hopkins out wide, you got Fuller, you got Miller

751
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: coming out of the backfield. Now, I think about the

752
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: Patriots a lot of times in that situation, and the

753
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: Patriots are like worse ten Patriots go to ten and

754
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: they say, you're not catching this ball, right, Okay, go

755
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,919
Speaker 1: for it because at that point, how are you gonna

756
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,479
Speaker 1: match up with everybody else? Yeah, all of a sudden,

757
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,959
Speaker 1: you're gonna have Chunk's gonna take one of the tight ends?

758
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: Who's taking the other one? And last year mccordy took

759
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: Griffin and Griff roasted him. So what are you gonna

760
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: who are gonna put on Aikins now? So you've created

761
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: so many different issues I think down in the red

762
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: zone by putting, and you can even get to the

763
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: point where you put all three tight ends on the

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00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: on the field. Yeah, you could put all three of them. Well,

765
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: then you're gonna get a great matchup somewhere exactly, and

766
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: it's up to watch. Absolutely, you're gonna find one. I mean,

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00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: that's that's the thing. And Aikens, I mean I've seen

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00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: him play plenty. We seen him at training camp. Last

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Speaker 1: night was the first night that I had to you know,

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00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: I got a chance to meet him and shook his

771
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: hand mark his hands swallowed mine. I've got big hands.

772
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: His hands swallowed mine. And you see exactly. The one

773
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: thing that I said, and maybe my last Harris hurry up,

774
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: was I don't recall eighty three and eighty eight Thomas

775
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: Nakins dropping a pass in training camp. I did not

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00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: remember seeing it happened either, do I. I I mean, it

777
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: could have happened, but I don't thinks I don't think

778
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: I saw that either. They were catching the ball in traffic,

779
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: they were catching the ball at all levels of the field.

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00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: I thought it might be I thought it might be Thomas.

781
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: But it was interesting because we wrote, we wrote a

782
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: little little thing for our season ticket members, and it was, hey,

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00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: here's some of the players that you need to watch,

784
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,479
Speaker 1: and we put both those rookie tight ends. I said

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00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 1: this to somebody on the way home. I was texting somebody,

786
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: and I knew that he wasn't gonna respond, but I

787
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 1: was just kind of putting my thoughts down on paper,

788
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: and I said, this rookie class, do you think about it?

789
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: No first round or no second round or obviously we

790
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: know why Justin Reid has got everything you he he,

791
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna start at safety. You've got No Martinez.

792
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: If Martinez were back, he'd be pushing for a starting role,

793
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: but he just put him to side for a second.

794
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: Aikens looks as good as advertised. Then you get Kiki Qt,

795
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: who was phenomenal before he gets banged up. Then you

796
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: get to the sixth round and you get Edge of four,

797
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: you get Callum Bayi, and you get Jordan Thomas. All

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00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: three of those guys, those guys that I all meant

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00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: that we mentioned, have an opportunity within the next two years,

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00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,240
Speaker 1: I think of being not only starters, but significant players

801
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: for this team. Yeah, they've been phenomenal. I agree. I

802
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: mean this so far, you like what you see. Obviously

803
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: it's very very early, but they're off to a good

804
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: star preseason context. Game one goes well, all right, so

805
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: Aikins catches that the tight end group looking solid. We

806
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: talked about the receivers. By the way, quick note on

807
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 1: Ellington and we hit on in the last segment. I

808
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: mean Ellington's a lock. He's a lock qt in Ellington.

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00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: They could be clones of each other, doesn't matter. They're

810
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: two of the top four on this team. And I

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00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: love how Miller is saying, hey, I'm still here. I

812
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: want to make the squad. Sammy coachs last night. We've

813
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: talked about him a ton the first couple of weeks.

814
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: I want to see more out of him. But I

815
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: like this group. It awful lot. It's deep, from Hopkins

816
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,439
Speaker 1: to whoever you think the LAS guy on the wide

817
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: receiver roster is, which is probably Justester we or Vincent Smith.

818
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: Those guys would have an opportunity of making a team

819
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 1: if they weren't here, if they were some some other team,

820
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 1: they'd have an opportunity to make. Vincent Smith didn't get

821
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: in until the fourth quarter, barely got in. That was

822
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: a tough goal for him because he wants to show

823
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 1: what he's got. He's got a ton of speed. He's

824
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,959
Speaker 1: a big guy out of Limestone of all places. But hey,

825
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: Jacobe Jones, once upon a time, came from Lane College. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and here's the thing for those guys, Okay, may not

827
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: have had huge games last night, didn't come up with

828
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: the receptions this week against the forty nine ers. For

829
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: two guys like that, ton of reps massive, massively important

830
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: for them to come out and show what they can do,

831
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: and maybe that gives them a little bit more confidence.

832
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: Maybe it gets them a few more reps in the

833
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: game on Saturday against the Niners and they do something

834
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: in front of the crowd. Who knows, but the reps

835
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: against the Niners and practices are invaluable for those guys.

836
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Speaker 1: This week. It's gonna be interesting to see how many

837
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: reps the starters get in the game after going up

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00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 1: against the forty nine ers on Wednesday and Thursday, forty

839
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: eight hours before you went up against the forty nine ers.

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00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 1: Out of the field, I would guess full pads both days.

841
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: I would think probably I would say full pads and

842
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 1: then maybe just shoulder pads one day. You go full

843
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 1: pads the first day. Maybe I could give him a

844
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: little time to recover sort so to speak. Maybe So yeah, Yeah,

845
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Speaker 1: and the forty Niners, by the way, just peppered with

846
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: former Texans. I mean, you got Kyle Shanahan, you got

847
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: Jeff Scanina coach in the line. You still I mean,

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Speaker 1: I can't mention them all. Robert rob Sala, coach of

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Speaker 1: the defense. He was here as an assistant. Richard high

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Speaker 1: Tower Special Teams, who was an intern here, an intern

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Speaker 1: incorporate development. We're not even talking football and he's coaching

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Speaker 1: special teams. Why. I mean, we've got a lot of

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Speaker 1: interesting stuff going on between these two squads and Kyle Shanahan.

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Speaker 1: You know, I wondered when this showed up on the

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Speaker 1: docket that the forty nine ers were coming here. I wondered, cheeze, dude.

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Speaker 1: They know. Of course, they know what they're getting into.

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Speaker 1: Cole Shanhan knows exactly what he's getting into. He wants

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Speaker 1: to subject his guys to sweat, yeah, in humidity. I

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Speaker 1: don't know that. I haven't looked at their schedule yet,

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Speaker 1: but that's probably something I should do. He wants to

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Speaker 1: give them a taste. I think this is a great

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Speaker 1: the Niners coming in here. I thought this last year

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Speaker 1: they weren't quite there. I think they still had some

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Speaker 1: young guys that quite han't gotten there. But obviously they

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Speaker 1: beat they beat us last year, So what are you

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Speaker 1: gonna say? But Solomon Thomas, the Forest, Buckner, Eric Armstead,

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Speaker 1: Eli Harold Ruben Foster. They've got some dudes in that front,

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Speaker 1: seven dudes. So it's a great test for the offensive

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Speaker 1: line facing that type of group. Solomon Thomas, if he

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Speaker 1: takes his game to love, everybody thinks, he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a really good test for Julian and for chantrelle So

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Speaker 1: and Buckner and Armstead are like two power forwards that

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Speaker 1: grew three hundred pounds because there's six eight or six nine.

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Speaker 1: So it's a really good test for them. These practices

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Speaker 1: are gonna be. This a great team to be practicing against.

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Speaker 1: Two I Scannina was excited about that d line last year.

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Speaker 1: He said, super young. I mean, they don't know yet,

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Speaker 1: but they are going to be good eventually. All Right,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be fun. Next week, Johnny Monday morning, eight am.

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Speaker 1: I'll see you out there. We'll be live right here

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Speaker 1: with Texans Monday presented by Houston Methodist. Looking forward to that.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for your time, you got it, Thank you

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Speaker 1: and read john stuff on Houston Texans dot com. I

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Speaker 1: wrote a piece on the game real quick read on

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Speaker 1: some of the stuff I saw, and don't forget check

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Speaker 1: out Houston Texas dot com or all your videos, stuff, articles,

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Speaker 1: everything to do with your squad. Have a great night, everyone,

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Speaker 1: a great weekend, and go Texans,