1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: How much has this thing raised? 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 2: Historically over three and a half million. 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: Your f Journey's raised over three and a half million dollars. 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 2: Did the first year they raised twenty five thousand, if 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 2: I'm not wrong, and it's grown, I mean so much 6 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 2: since there's last year they raised about two hundred and 7 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 2: twenty thousand. In the year before that they raised three 8 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: hundred something, and then the year before that they raised 9 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 2: I think it was the record. It was three hundred 10 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 2: and thirty seven. 11 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: Thousand, So the record the best year evers. Yeah, three hundred. 12 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 2: What thirty seven? 13 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:39,599 Speaker 3: I believe, and. 14 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: You guys want to do four hundred. 15 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: This show, well, we had to make the goal bigger 16 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 2: than the record. 17 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, welcome to an army of normal folks. I'm 18 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: Bill Courtney. I'm a normal guy. I'm a husband, I'm 19 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: a father, I'm an entrepreneur, and I've been a football 20 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: coach in inner city Memphis. In the last part, somehow, well, 21 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: it led to an oscar for the film about our team. 22 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: That movie's called Undefeated. Guys, I believe our country's problems 23 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: will never be solved by a bunch of fancy people 24 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: in nice suits using big words that nobody ever uses 25 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: on CNN and Fox, but rather by an army of 26 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,839 Speaker 1: normal folks. That's us, just you and me deciding hey, 27 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: I can help. That's what the Old Miss chapter of 28 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: Sigma Nu has done. Many years ago, after football player 29 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: Chucky Mullin's devastating injury left him as a quadriplegic, Sigmun 30 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: who approached him about starting a football game called the 31 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: Charity Bowl that would raise money for those living in 32 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: paralysis just like him. Chucky not only approved it, he 33 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: endorsed it, and since nineteen ninety this fraternity at Ole 34 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: Miss has raised over three zero point five million dollars 35 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: for others suffering with injuries similar to Chuppy's. I cannot 36 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: wait for you to meet too of sigmun Who's current 37 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: members right after these brief messages from our general sponsors 38 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: Jacker Mulhan, Mooney Han Moonhan Or Mooney Ham, Huh Mooney Ham, Moonyham, Mooneyham, 39 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: Julian Knott, God, You're ready all right? From Oxford, Mississippi, 40 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: Julian Mooneyham and Julian Knotts. 41 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 2: You said, Julian Mooneyham and Julian Knott, what I say? 42 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:58,839 Speaker 1: We'll start over? Oh God, don't do that. I don't 43 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: even have paper in front to me. I'm doing this 44 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: form membery. Sorry. Jagger, Mooney Ham and Julian Not drove 45 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: up from Oxford, Mississippi to Joins today. What oh they 46 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: had a They had a young man drive them up. 47 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: What is he? He's he's a he's a candidate for 48 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: admission into Sigmunu fraternity. Drove them up here because he 49 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: quote didn't have anything else to do. Is that right? 50 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: Did you volunteer for this? See another volunteer? It's great? 51 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: Yeah from oxfor Mississippi. Guys, welcome, thanks for joining us. 52 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: Let's start with you, Jagger, where you're from? Up your store? 53 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 4: I live in Branda, Mississippi, but I went to school 54 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 4: in Jackson prop High School in Jackson Presser And what 55 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 4: year you now? 56 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: I'm you're junior junior at ole miss Jillian? What's your story? 57 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: I'm from Newport Beach, California. Uh, and I'm a junior 58 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: too with Jagger. 59 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, what is that guy from Newport Beach, California doing 60 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: in Oxford? Sippy for college? Dude, but nobody in California 61 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: except you. 62 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 2: Well, you're gonna have like a four point five to 63 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: go to any good school in California. So I was 64 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 2: set on going to either Boulder Ole Miss like the 65 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 2: whole time since I was a freshman, and you. 66 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: Could have been with prime dude. 67 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 2: Well we we had we had family friends that went 68 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 2: to Ole Miss and everything, and I came and visited 69 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 2: and liked it way better than Boulder. 70 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: So let's talk about what it's like to be a 71 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: student at ole Miss. You know, from what you're you 72 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: j J junior, both juniors, so you guys are just 73 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: kids at Ole Miss. And when you show up as 74 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: freshmen at Ole Miss, the Greek system is a huge 75 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: part of campus life at Ole Miss. So when you 76 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: show up, most people are leaving high school, big man 77 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: on campus and then you're kind of starting over as 78 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: a freshman. Tell tell me what Jagger your experience as 79 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: a fresh Ole Miss wise, Well. 80 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,239 Speaker 4: I mean it was really distracting because in high school 81 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 4: you didn't have as many distractions going on with all 82 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 4: the events you get to go to and all the 83 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 4: opportunities you have to do stuff other than school, and 84 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 4: so coming to Old Miss, you have you can fill 85 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 4: your schedule with a bunch of different things that are 86 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 4: more fun. And you think are more important in school, 87 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 4: but you also got to balance your grades, and so 88 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 4: it's a lot different than high school because there's just 89 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 4: more distractions and you're not really focusing on it as much. 90 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: So why why did you join the fratorney? 91 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 4: I really just really I felt like it was the 92 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 4: normal from people that I knew before, and it was 93 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 4: normal to join a fraternity. Everybody did it, and so 94 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 4: I felt like it would be I'd be like an 95 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 4: outcast if I didn't. 96 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 3: That's the true reasoning. 97 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: What about you, Jillian. 98 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 2: Why not join one? Or yeah? Uh well, I mean 99 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 2: Ole Miss. Part of the reason for coming Ole Miss 100 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 2: is the Greek system, And when I came to all Miss, 101 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 2: it was like a whole new world. Like any other 102 00:05:55,880 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 2: California school or anything. Joining a fraternity is completely different 103 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 2: from We'll missing. For me, it kind of started off 104 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 2: to have fun, and I was lucky to get a 105 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 2: Sigmau Bit, I guess because not a lot of kids 106 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 2: from California or Sigma News. I mean, there's only been 107 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 2: a couple of us. And at first it was just 108 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 2: have fun. And then now since I've gotten older and 109 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 2: after freshman year, I found myself kind of getting more 110 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 2: involved and being more a part of it and being 111 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,679 Speaker 2: a part of the Greek system is kind of leaned 112 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 2: away from having fun aspect. I mean, we do have fun, 113 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 2: but it's kind of providing me with like a lot 114 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: of good tools and a lot of good things I 115 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 2: can be a part of, such as charitybule. 116 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well see, that's the thing is one of the 117 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 1: greatest movies ever made in the world was Animal House. 118 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: It's hilarious, all right. And the vast, vast majority of 119 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: the people that think about fraternities when they hear the 120 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: word fraternity, that's what they think. Yeah, And I would 121 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: imagine coming out of high school. Let's just say you're 122 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: a senior in high school and you think I'm going 123 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: to join E fraternity. You got to believe that ninety 124 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: percent of your reason for joining in fraternity is you're 125 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: thinking it's just going to be lots of fun, parties, craziness, stories, 126 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: tell the rest of your life and all that. So 127 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: genuinely is that what was it about in high school 128 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: when you were coming ole Miss. You're thinking I'm going 129 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: to all Miss. It's kind of not as a party 130 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: school joining fraternity. You've got this whole Animal House mentality 131 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: you know what's going on between a senior and high 132 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: school's ears when he's going to old miss thinking about 133 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: joining fraternity. 134 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I always thought that a fraternity was 135 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 4: just the aspect of having fun, Like that's really all 136 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 4: it was until I became got initiated into a fraternity, 137 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 4: and then. 138 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 3: I realized that there was a lot more to it. 139 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 4: But I did in high school, I felt like that 140 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 4: was the only thought I had about a fraternity was 141 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 4: having fun part of it, and I thought that it was. 142 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought that was really all it was. 143 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 4: And so but then getting initiated in the when you 144 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 4: realize it's a lot more what about you same thing? 145 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 2: Like it was pretty much one hundred percent about having 146 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 2: fun And then now, like I said, I've gotten way 147 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: more out of it other than just having fun. And 148 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: the things I've gained like that are the most important 149 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: or like charitable, all the stuff that like we've gotten 150 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 2: to do. Having fun isn't even really that big of 151 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 2: an aspect to it anymore. 152 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: So I think most people listen to us and might 153 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: think that's, yes, counter to what it really is. Jacker, 154 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: you said, you know, once you became initiated, you learn 155 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: more share share with us some of the some of 156 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: that stuff that you think has transcended from what you 157 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: thought it would be as high school kid and now 158 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 1: as a young man who's been through it a little bit, 159 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: you know, what are the aspects of it that has 160 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: mattered to you. 161 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 4: I think like a lot of it's the leadership part 162 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 4: of it, because you want to have like the best 163 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 4: reputation for your fraternity. You want to be the best 164 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 4: you can, and so you want to have leaders around 165 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 4: campus and you want to stick out to everybody. And 166 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 4: what I kind of got out of it was being 167 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 4: in different organizations and actually doing something that can set 168 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 4: my fraternity apart and make us seem like we are 169 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 4: the best fraternity just being a leader around campus and 170 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 4: people look at at our fraternity at the right. 171 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: What are the types of things other than charity ball, 172 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: which obviously that's why you're here and we're definitely going 173 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: to get into that. What are the other stuff the 174 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: fraternity's trying to get involved in. 175 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 3: Well, I don't think it's more of the organizations. 176 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 4: I think it's more of like focusing on grades and 177 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 4: because you want to have the best youba on campus 178 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 4: every year just so you have that look that wow, 179 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 4: we have our stuff together and other people might not. 180 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 3: And then but also yeah together and. 181 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: You're fraternity actually gives a crap about their GPA. Well 182 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: that's not animal housey. 183 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 3: Yeah it's not. And it's not what I thought it thought. 184 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 3: It wasn't high school. 185 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 4: And so now we want to we want to have 186 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 4: a good reputation around campus with grades, with how we 187 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 4: treat girls with everything in life, you know, being leaders 188 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 4: around campus and. 189 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 1: So well, that's not racist, that's not misogynistic, that's not spoiled, 190 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: that's actually responsible. 191 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 3: Right, and that's that's I think that's what. 192 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: Don't you understand that most people don't think that when 193 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: they hear frat life. 194 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 4: Right, I mean, it gets its stereotypes for sure. Everybody 195 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 4: thinks that we don't give a crap about school when 196 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 4: we just pass through with the easiest majors and everything 197 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 4: and we don't work hard for anything. They think we're 198 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 4: spoiled and it's all given to us. 199 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 3: But that's really not. 200 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: It, So, Jillian, what was so the way it works 201 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: is you show up, you get a bid, and then 202 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: you become a pledge or candidate, and then for some 203 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: period of time you're a pledge or a candidate, and 204 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: then you become initiated. So the old school thought is 205 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: during that period of time, you basically get hazed. You 206 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: have to do whatever people tell you to do, including 207 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: drinking too much and doing all kinds of other stuff, 208 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: and then I guess eventually pass muster and you become initiated. 209 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: Was that your experience none at all? What was your experience? 210 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 2: If anything, we drank probably less as pleasures we had 211 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 2: to do, like a bunch of community service events, a 212 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 2: bunch of like bonding events, like all of our best 213 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 2: friends now we became best friends with in half a 214 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 2: year versus to in high school. You know, you were 215 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 2: friends with these kids from preschool. And because of the 216 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 2: whole process that we went through, it made all of 217 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 2: us so close. And all the guys that were surrounding 218 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 2: around are some of the most like stand up guys. 219 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 2: Amend my whole life. And I had that same and 220 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: you know, kind of stereotype to Fraterneyes, I guess coming 221 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 2: into it. Coming into it, Yeah, and kind of thought 222 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 2: I'd just be surrounded around a bunch of guys who 223 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 2: really only care about having fun, which isn't necessarily a 224 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 2: bad thing, but it's honestly the complete opposite. Like the 225 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 2: guys that I'm surrounded with in our fraternity are like 226 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 2: some of the best guys I've ever met, who you know, 227 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 2: have goals, want to be like lawyers, doctors, all know 228 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 2: what they want to do. And it was a great 229 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 2: experience from the start. 230 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: It wasn't Fraternities all have you know, the secret handshake, 231 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: and they have rituals and all of that stuff that 232 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: only people in the fraternity are supposed to know because 233 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: it binds you together and makes you close. But it 234 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: to some people on the outside, it seems all very 235 00:12:54,360 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: cloak and dagger. So Jillian from you know, from what 236 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: you can, what you can discuss, because I know there 237 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 1: are things like creeds and oaths that only people who've 238 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: been initiated into your fraternity you're supposed to know, and 239 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: I'm not asked you to share that. But talk about 240 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: the process of being a pledge in your fraternity. What 241 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: does what do? What do those days in that time 242 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: look like? What are you being held to account to 243 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:27,959 Speaker 1: do well? 244 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 2: It starts off we go morning meetings every morning, we 245 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 2: have study hours. We're with that group of seventy guys 246 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 2: pretty much all day, and I had that same impression 247 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 2: that joining a fraternity was going to be. You know, 248 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 2: I drink this, eat this, just like a bunch of 249 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 2: not helpful things or useful tools. 250 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: That's what you thought was gonna happ That's what. 251 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 2: I thought was gonna happen. But everything that we I 252 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 2: was honestly kind of shocked because I was waiting for 253 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 2: that to happen, and they like said, from the beginning, 254 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 2: none of that will ever happen to you. I was like, 255 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 2: all right, these guys are clearly messing with us, and 256 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 2: it never did. It was really everything was just built 257 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 2: on making us better people. 258 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: And now a few messages from our gender sponsors. But first, 259 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: I hope you'll consider signing up to join the army 260 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: at normal folks dot us. By signing up, you'll receive 261 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: a weekly email with short episodes summaries in case you 262 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: happen to miss an episode, or if you prefer reading 263 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: about our incredible guests, We'll be right back. Jagger, you 264 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: are I know you are in charge of this year's 265 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: Spledge class. What do these kids have to do to 266 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: become an active member? Now they have to stand in 267 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: line neked and drink whiskey bottles? Do they have to 268 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: all the things we've heard? 269 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 3: No, none of that. It's really just what do you mean? 270 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: None of that? That's what everybody. 271 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 4: Demote your time and thoughts to the fraternity, and we 272 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 4: really emphasize on them getting to knowing the people in 273 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 4: the chapter. And also we tell them that they need 274 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 4: to know everybody's name and where they're from, just so 275 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 4: you can build that personal connection. And it's really a 276 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 4: lot of time management. We want to build tools for 277 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 4: maybe your future job. You're gonna have to get up 278 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 4: early sometimes, so we expect them to show up on 279 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 4: time and look presentable. They're gonna be clean shaven, haircut 280 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 4: off the collar above the eyebrows, look presentable, and kind 281 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 4: of get out of their comfort zone a little bit 282 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 4: and become leaders and do things that are uncomfortable to them, 283 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 4: like having uncomfortable conversations that need to be had with 284 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 4: each other to become close. And so they're gonna long 285 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 4: study hours. They're the study hours five hours a day and. 286 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: So they five hours. 287 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, we just to make sure that they they held 288 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 4: their GPAs because I think they have an average right 289 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 4: now of over three seven as a pledge class. 290 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: Seventy kids pledges freshmen at Whole Miss and a fraternity 291 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: have a three point seven GPS. 292 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 4: Their average is just above a three seven. Last time 293 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 4: we did a great check. 294 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: Do you know where that ranks among other groups? 295 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 3: Usually we usually get second. 296 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: So what are they doing when they study hours? I mean, 297 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: you can only study so much. 298 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 3: Well, I mean they're sitting. 299 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 4: They're sitting as a pledge class with the people that 300 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 4: they might have not known in high school but that 301 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 4: they're getting closer with. They're sitting with them whenever, and 302 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 4: that they need help on subjects. They if they're taking 303 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 4: the same class with one of their pledge broilers, they're 304 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 4: going to help each other out, kind of group up 305 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 4: and get their school work done. And then we have 306 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 4: nice where we can't do study hall because there might 307 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 4: be an a vent or anything. But they have plenty 308 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 4: of time to get their stuff done. If not, they 309 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 4: are focusing on getting to know the active chapter and 310 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 4: the pledge material. 311 00:16:54,800 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: So that just doesn't agree read with the popular notion 312 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: of what fraternity life is and Greek life is. 313 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 4: Well, that's why we say that I think our fraternity 314 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 4: means more than any other one because a lot of 315 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 4: fraternities are the stereotypical fraternity, but we are not, and 316 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 4: so we take pride in that. 317 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: Okay, that's interesting, and I think it's interesting for people 318 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 1: to hear that, you know, there is a form and 319 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: a function to this that can matter and be meaningful 320 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 1: long after your freshman year in college is over. That 321 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 1: is completely counter to what even you guys thought only 322 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: three years ago coming in the fraternity. Right. So, every 323 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: year there's some fraternity on some campus that does something 324 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 1: that gets national headlines and it has spread all across 325 00:17:51,560 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 1: the country, and it's almost like, to me, it's the stupid, horrible, 326 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: horrific cop that does something bad in some city that 327 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: he shouldn't do, that he should be locked up for 328 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: that nobody excuses. But that's one really bad incident. When 329 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: we have millions of cops all over the country every 330 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: day doing good work, but all of a sudden, that 331 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 1: one bad cop who represents one one thousandth of one 332 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: one thousandth of a percent of the cops in the world, 333 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 1: that guy ends up being the face of all cops 334 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: and it leads to all kinds of social issues, and 335 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: just recently in the last decade, I think our country 336 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: has done a much better job of holding the bad 337 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: cops accountable. The problem is the pendulum swings and we 338 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: say it's all cops, we need a defund police, and 339 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: now we're saying, well, you know what, it's really not 340 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: all cops. There's some really bad cops, and we all 341 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: got to hold the accountable. But we need good cops, 342 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: and there are plenty of good cops out there. But 343 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 1: the thing is, we don't celebrate those stories. We always 344 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: high the bad one in the same respect. It just 345 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: takes one idiot at one fraternity on one campus to 346 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: do something bad that story hits their ways, and then 347 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 1: every person in the Greek life must be just like that. 348 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: And Jaggery, you said something a second ago that was 349 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: really interesting to me. You said, we want people to 350 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: be leaders. We went on them accountable, how to get 351 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: their keep their grades up, how to treat women, and 352 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: then we went on past that. But the how to 353 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: treat women thing that was interesting. What do you mean 354 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: how to treat women? 355 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 4: Well, I mean we want to treat them with the 356 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 4: respect that they should be treated and be the gentleman 357 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 4: that we want them to be. So from day one 358 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 4: we emphasize how to treat them and not to maybe 359 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 4: do some things that you wouldn't want somebody to do 360 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 4: to your sister or your mother. You know, be a 361 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 4: gentlemen that we should be in life because it is 362 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 4: about respect, and it gives us a good look on 363 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 4: campus when we are known as the gentleman guys that 364 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:07,719 Speaker 4: treat girls how they should be treated. 365 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: Once again, that flies in the face of what everybody 366 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: would think about Greeks and women and parties and everything 367 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: else that goes along with it. What if somebody steps 368 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: out of. 369 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 4: Line, then we can we can dismiss anybody from the chapter. 370 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 3: When we want to. 371 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 4: So you would you and have you we we haven't 372 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 4: had that problem yet, and so this year we write 373 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 4: and we try to emphasize that with our candidates. Also 374 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 4: the active chapter that is one strike when disrespecting women, 375 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,959 Speaker 4: and that's not acceptable, and you're going to get dismissed 376 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 4: from the chapter. 377 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: Julen, what a parents from California think about Greek life 378 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 1: in Mississippi For what they thought when you were showing 379 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 1: up versus what they think now. 380 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 2: They honestly, they honestly really like it. I mean, all 381 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 2: my friend's parents who I talk to honestly, like really 382 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 2: support and like the fact that I went to school 383 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 2: here and with Greek life. They think, I mean, I 384 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 2: have friends who go to Berkeley or like really good 385 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 2: colleges who might be getting a better education than me. 386 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 2: Like my brother, for instance, he goes to USC, which 387 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 2: is USC. 388 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, hard to get in, really hard to get in 389 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: and competitive. 390 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 2: He had to do a year at community college before 391 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 2: he could even get in. And my parents thought him 392 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 2: going to USC me going on a miss, he might 393 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 2: be a little better off. And then my dad this summer, 394 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 2: I was talking to him and he was saying, just 395 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 2: because of the guys I'm surrounded by and all the 396 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 2: people in my fraternity. He was like, I think he's 397 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 2: not gonna like to hear this, but he was like, 398 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 2: I think you're gonna be better off than him, just 399 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 2: because all the people you're surrounded by and the system 400 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 2: that you're you're saying. 401 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,479 Speaker 1: To education isn't just what's in the books exactly, and 402 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: you're receiving an education and through Greek life as well 403 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: as the university life that is maybe more universal. Yeah, 404 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: it's interesting. So that's kind of the Greek experience for 405 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: you guys. Which is really cool. Your fraternity has engaged 406 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 1: for many years in philanthropy, and I assume most all 407 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 1: fraternities have community service projects or something, right. 408 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 2: They all each fraternity has their own event. The university 409 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 2: requires us to have two community based events every year. 410 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: Oh, the university requires attorneys to do that. Yeah, I 411 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 1: didn't know that. 412 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 2: They or I don't know if it's necessarily required, but 413 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 2: it's heavily. 414 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: Encouraged. 415 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 2: Encouraged. Yeah, so it's one first semester in one second semester. 416 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 2: You need one each semester, got it? 417 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 1: So what did y'all do? First semester? 418 00:22:54,480 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 2: We did food stock. We supported love packs, which a 419 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 2: guy in our fraternity, his mom who lives in Oxford, 420 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,239 Speaker 2: Eliza Fruge. She's a huge part of it. So we 421 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 2: kind of work it makes it a little easier. We worked 422 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 2: with her to do it, and we raise money to 423 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 2: provide meals for families in Oxford and Lafayette County for 424 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 2: that just don't have the money to you know, just 425 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 2: how do you do that? 426 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: What do y'all do? 427 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 2: We just raised money. We'll do We'll also do like 428 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 2: a food drive like people bring in food and for 429 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 2: raising money. It's pretty much just emails to families and 430 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 2: friends and blitzes like going door to door stuff like that. 431 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 2: And then we also have a lot of the chapter 432 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 2: packing these love packs for them. We'll use the money 433 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 2: go buy all the food and then we'll put them 434 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 2: all in bags and separated evenly. 435 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: How much money did you ask this year? 436 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 2: We raised about three grand for love packs. 437 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: And then you put these things together and did it. 438 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, sororities help out with it too, putting them together. 439 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: That's cool, right, But that's the first semester thing. 440 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 3: It is. 441 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: Tell me about the second semester thing. 442 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 2: We got charity ball for the second semester. It was 443 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 2: started in nineteen ninety for Chucky Mullins basically Chucky. 444 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: First of all, who's Chucky? 445 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 2: Okay? 446 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 4: You want to Yeah, So nineteen eighty nine homecoming game 447 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 4: against Vanderbilt, Brad Gaines was going in for a touchdown 448 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 4: and Chucky made the hit to stop him and break 449 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 4: the ball loose. 450 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: And by the way, Brad Gaines, Riley Gains is a 451 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: person who's become a national face of women sports, trying 452 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:47,959 Speaker 1: to argue that male transgender athletes competing against women is 453 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: not fair and in some cases can be dangerous. That's 454 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: Brad Gaines's daughter. I don't know if anybody knows that 455 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: or not, but that's it. So you're right. Chucky went 456 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 1: to hit Bride to keep him out and sown go ahead. 457 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he was paralyzed immediately on the field. 458 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 4: Now ride Chucky, Chucky was yeah, and so he was paraplegic. 459 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 4: In the next year, Charity Bowl was started to raise 460 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 4: money for Chucky. And uh, it's been going strong ever since. 461 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 4: So nineteen ninety was the year after the injury, and 462 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 4: it's charity Ball has been going since then. 463 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: We'll be right back the charity balls. Now, how many 464 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: years twenty five, eighty nine, yeah, or one? 465 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 2: This is the fifth year, thirty thirty thirty five yeah, 466 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 2: all right, So the chapter. 467 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 1: Has been doing this for thirty five years. So what 468 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: is charity ball? 469 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 2: So basically every year we will play a football game 470 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 2: in the vault and then it started off at Oxford 471 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 2: High School was the first year they did it. We'll 472 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 2: play a football game in the vault against whatever fraternity 473 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 2: pledges the most money. Right now, we have a bid 474 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 2: from a fraternity at State. 475 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: State. 476 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 2: Fratornity from State wants to drive a Mississippi. Yeah, and 477 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 2: they they pledged fifteen grand. We'd rather play a school here, 478 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 2: but it just kind depends who puts up the most money. 479 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 2: And we'll play a tackle football game in the stadium. 480 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 2: And we raised pats. 481 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: Aw about your fraternity guys, yep. 482 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 2: And then before the actual event, we have a cheer 483 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 2: competition which almost every sorority competes in the cheer competition. 484 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 2: And then at halftime we have a homecoming court and yeah, 485 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 2: it's a cool event. And we raised money for one 486 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 2: recipient with paralysis. Every year there's this year, we had 487 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 2: about six people who applied to be our recipient, and 488 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 2: we chose Hannah Johnston to be this year's recipient. And 489 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 2: along with that, we also support the William McGee Center 490 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 2: for Mental Health and Education on campus and then the 491 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 2: Manning Center, which directly impacts the Blarry Batson's Children Hospital. 492 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 1: Tell me about your recipient this year, Hannah Johnson. 493 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 2: She's twenty six, she's from Cartiage, Mississippi. She's a teacher there. 494 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 2: Hannah is kind of like embodies everything we look for 495 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 2: in a recipient. When about three years ago she had 496 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 2: a second grade student who had a super tough family life, 497 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 2: and I talked to her about it. I didn't get 498 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 2: all the details exactly on it, but that kid's now 499 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 2: her son. She took him in and adopted him. And 500 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 2: when during the ice storm, I mean, she's just always 501 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 2: willing to help people. She always has helped people. And 502 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 2: during the ice storm, a family their heat in ac 503 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 2: was broken, and she was driving to go deliver them 504 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 2: blankets and pillows and pulled off on the side of 505 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 2: the highway. And when she was parked her, her husband 506 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 2: and her son and an eighteen wheeler hit a patch 507 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,479 Speaker 2: of black eyes spun out uncontrollably and hit her car, 508 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 2: and it caused her to be paralyzed on the shoulders down. 509 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 2: So she still has no feelings. 510 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: She was paralyzed from the shoulders down going to deliver 511 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 1: blankets to a family who's heat was out. Yeah, and 512 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: now she's a quadripleatrip. 513 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 514 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: That's horrific. Yeah. And so this year's charity ball is 515 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: to raise money for her care. 516 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 3: Yeah. 517 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 2: Well, she just now started a new research program and 518 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 2: on the exact terminology for it, but it's there's a 519 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 2: bunch of new different research programs are charity board recipient 520 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 2: two years ago, he's a really good friends with one 521 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 2: of our friends from Coyerville. JD. Mills is a kid's name, 522 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 2: and he's in one of those research programs too, and 523 00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 2: supposedly a lot of them have pretty they're pretty certain 524 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 2: that they can hopefully gain the feeling back with like 525 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 2: stem cell replacements and stuff to get her to be 526 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 2: able to walk again and have feeling again. So she 527 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 2: is right now in one of those programs which are 528 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 2: very very expensive, and so all the funding will go 529 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 2: pretty much just towards her care and mainly towards that program. 530 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: So Jagger fifteen thousand dollars pledged and all of that. 531 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: How much money do you think you guys are going 532 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: to raise? 533 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 4: Four hundred grand that's our goal and I think we're 534 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 4: going to meet it this year. 535 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: Four hundred thousand dollars one hundred thousand this year this 536 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: year playing a football game. 537 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, how much do we have we raised. 538 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 2: Already right now, we're at sixty thousand and we started about. 539 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 3: A month ago. 540 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: When's the game played? 541 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 2: We don't have the exact date yet, but we're hoping. 542 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 2: We asked the Athletic Center. We're hoping for it's late March. 543 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 2: It's like the weekend on like March twenty second, I believe. 544 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: So we're talking five months from now, how are you 545 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: going to raise three hundred and forty one thousand dollars 546 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: between now and then. 547 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 2: It's gonna take a lot, It's gonna be a lot 548 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 2: of hard work. The philanthropy chairs this year, the two 549 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 2: other ones are Sam Wallis and J. D. Montgomery, both 550 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 2: of which are very determined people to meet this goal. 551 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 2: And we're lucky to have them too to be able 552 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 2: to meet that goal. And pretty much the way we 553 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 2: fundraise is it's family and friend donations, a just personal donations, 554 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 2: all of its attacks right off. And this year we're 555 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 2: trying to incorporate big ass, So we're trying to go 556 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 2: to companies who are already donating you know, X amount 557 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 2: of money and going to try and hopefully tell them 558 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 2: what charity Bull's about, what we do, hopefully get them 559 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 2: involved and try and get I think that if we 560 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 2: were to get two or three of those big nations 561 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 2: somewhere around you know, thirty grand or more from a 562 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 2: company would really help us meet that goal. And along 563 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 2: with that, we have sponsorships. There's sponsorships raising from one 564 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 2: hundred dollars up to two thousand dollars. 565 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: So Jagger, when you were a pledge and you're coming 566 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: for this big party atmosphere and your mind's opening, Oh, 567 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: it's really not about that. Now I got to be 568 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: held accountable. I got to keep my grades up and oh, 569 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: by the way, we got to go raise money. When 570 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: you first heard that, was that a drag? Be honest? 571 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was a drag. 572 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: Go Oh my gosh, I gotta go raise money now too, 573 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: on top of everything else. 574 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 3: It's unexpected. 575 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 4: But then I grew a personal connection with the recipient 576 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 4: we had our freshman year because. 577 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 3: It's one of my buddies. Friend who is home is JD. 578 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 4: Mills from Caliville, and so he's actually gotten We've gotten 579 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 4: really close with each other. We'll go dove hunting every 580 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 4: every season and uh, and so it just really opens 581 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 4: your eyes, like there is a bigger part, bigger picture 582 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 4: to a fraternity. What a group of people with two 583 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 4: hundred and seventy guys can do together, it's one and 584 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 4: what you can accomplish I mean is two hundred and 585 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 4: seventy guys could come together and raise four hundred grand. 586 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 4: It's pretty rewarding. It feels like and that you're doing 587 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 4: that for someone else. 588 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: So what what what is an average just member of 589 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: eternity doing to raise money? 590 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 4: Families that they know they'll go sell ads for a 591 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 4: Charity Bowl magazine. So we have put out a big 592 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 4: magazine every year, and you can buy a half page 593 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 4: aff for one hundred dollars or a full page aff 594 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 4: for four hundred dollars and it goes into this big 595 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 4: book that everybody receives at the Charity Bowl. 596 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 3: And what like. 597 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 4: For example, when I was raising money, I would go 598 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 4: to family friends of mine that own businesses and know 599 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 4: that they would like to get their business out there. 600 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 4: Both my parents are business owners, so it was easy 601 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 4: for me to get them to donate. And so I 602 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 4: think that's what the minimum people will do is raised 603 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 4: five hundred five six hundred dollars using a couple magazine ads. 604 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: How much is this thing raised? 605 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 2: Historically over three and a half million. 606 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: Your Fratorney's raised over three and a half million dollars. 607 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 2: Did the first year they raised twenty five thousand if 608 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 2: I'm not wrong, and it's grown, I mean so much 609 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 2: since there's last year they raised about two hundred and 610 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 2: twenty thousand. In the year before that they raised three 611 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 2: hundred something, and then the year before that they raised 612 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 2: I think it was the record. It was three hundred 613 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 2: and thirty seven thousand. 614 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: So the record the best year evers. 615 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, three hundred what thirty seven I believe. 616 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: And you guys want to do four hundred this year. 617 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 2: Well, we had to make the goal bigger than the record. 618 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, So is the fraternity behind it? Is this 619 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: one of these things where you've got two hundred and 620 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: fifty kids in this fraternity and there's ten people really working. 621 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: Everybody else is just hanging on or is everybody really 622 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: involved in I. 623 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 2: Think people are more involved this year, especially since years 624 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 2: prior it was the way to kind of get the 625 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 2: chapter involved was just there was no like set goal. 626 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 2: It was just we have to raise money. And then 627 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 2: this year we actually have a goal that we want 628 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 2: to meet. So it's kind of getting more of the 629 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 2: chapter behind it, because you know, they want to see 630 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 2: they're a part of it just as much as anyone else, 631 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 2: every single person in the chapter, So they want to 632 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 2: just see us hit that goal. 633 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 1: Our show is an army of normal folks, and our 634 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:41,359 Speaker 1: overarching narrative is that You don't have to be part 635 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: of some big and goo, you don't have to be 636 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 1: part of some massive organization. You don't have to be 637 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: powerful and rich to do something for someone in your 638 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: community that's not as blessed as you. That's the whole idea. 639 00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: And if we had any normal folks across this country, 640 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: regardless of who you come from, what you look like, 641 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: how you vote, just seeing area need, using their ability 642 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: and their passion to fill those areas in need, that 643 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: we could change the world. And oftentimes that looks like 644 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: a guy with a business who sees in air need 645 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: and invests money in it and starts a small organization. Sometimes, 646 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:28,720 Speaker 1: as organizations become huge, it looks like all walks of life. 647 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: But rarely do we think of college kids and a 648 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: fraternity as members of the army of normal folks helping 649 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 1: to solve somebody's issue in society. Six months ago or so, 650 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: we did a story on some college kids who during 651 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: COVID started rounding up food that was being wasted, and 652 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: they didn't know what they were doing. They just started 653 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 1: rounding up food to give it away. I think the 654 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 1: first thing they did was they found a whole truckload 655 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,879 Speaker 1: onions and gave away onions somebody, and I think they 656 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: were they're you cow people, right, cal Berkeley, alex Yeah? 657 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 1: And what Brown? Yeah? One was Brown University anyway, A 658 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: little by a little four years later, now they have 659 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 1: this massive organization that feeds people all over the world, 660 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: collecting food that farmers would otherwise throw away. And it 661 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: was so inspiring because these aren't people who are already 662 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: established in the world, who have careers and have access 663 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: and everything. It's a bunch of college kids that threw 664 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 1: together something that's now feeding the poor. You guys are 665 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: the same. You're just a bunch of college kids. You've 666 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: got grades to keep up with. You probably have a 667 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: girlfriend or at least looking for the next one. You've 668 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: got parties going on, You've got all this stuff going on, 669 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: and in the middle of it, you're talking about raising 670 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: four hundred thousand dollars for what seems to be an 671 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 1: amazing young woman who gave of herself, who ended up 672 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: in a tragic accident. Now she can't move anything from 673 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 1: her shoulders down. And that concludes part one of my 674 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: conversation with Jagger and Julian, and you don't want to 675 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 1: miss part two. That's now available. Together, guys, we can 676 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 1: change this country, but it starts with you. I'll see 677 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:32,399 Speaker 1: in Part two.