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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: What is up straight Fire, fam, It's me Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: Straight Fire for Tuesday, April first, April Fool's Day. Don't

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Speaker 2: get got. I surely will not. I will be on

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Speaker 2: the internet very little today. It's one of those days

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Speaker 2: where people try to get you. Resist the temptation. We

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Speaker 2: got a great, great interview today. Listen. We don't do

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Speaker 2: a ton of baseball on this podcast, but the torpedo

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Speaker 2: bats were such a big story over the weekend and

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Speaker 2: yesterday that we had to get a guest. So mister

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Speaker 2: Blum coming over from the Athletic Sam Blum, really good

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Speaker 2: stuff on the origin of these bats, where we might

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Speaker 2: be headed, who's using them? I saw the kid on

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Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Reds, the young fellow who's awesome. Ellie de

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Speaker 2: la Cruz hit two homers with the torpedo bats on Monday.

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Speaker 2: I'm just telling you, guys, this story is fascinating. Even

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Speaker 2: if you don't love baseball, you have to love change

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Speaker 2: and ingenuity and just smart adjustments in life. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's as easy as hey, man, three points is more

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Speaker 2: than two. We can make threes. And the Golden State

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Speaker 2: the sea change in the NBA, and here we are,

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Speaker 2: what ten years later, and it's all threes. You even

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Speaker 2: look at the NFL, which is a copycat league. Everybody's

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Speaker 2: now trying the Toush push. Nobody can really do it.

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Speaker 2: So the Odors they might be getting together to ban

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Speaker 2: the Toush push. You look at baseball, moneyball. I mean,

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Speaker 2: there's so many examples in sports of somebody not creating

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Speaker 2: something out of thin air, but finding a loophole or

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Speaker 2: a different way to do things. A loophole would be Belichick.

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Speaker 2: He did some things memorably in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: That caught people off guard.

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Speaker 2: You just got to think outside the box. And I

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Speaker 2: love the torpedo bat story, so I think you'll like

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Speaker 2: the interview. I just did want to quickly quickly touch

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Speaker 2: on Lakers one zero four, Rockets ninety eight. Not an

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Speaker 2: esthetically pleasing basketball game. The Lakers had sixteen points after

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Speaker 2: the first quarter. I stopped betting Lakers first quarter. It's

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Speaker 2: just the run is over. Teams are hip to what

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Speaker 2: they're doing. You got what about twenty games now some

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Speaker 2: thereabouts of Lebron Luca Reeves. So people are starting to

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Speaker 2: figure out the Lakers who had been unbelievable out of

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Speaker 2: the gate, and the offense really struggled for both teams.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Luca was six of sixteen, one of seven

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Speaker 2: from deep, Lakers hit sixteen threes, Rocket shot forty one percent.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is the Rockets were a perfect example

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Speaker 2: of why Kevin Durant is so desperately needed on this team.

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Speaker 2: Of their starters, only one of them shot over fifty

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Speaker 2: percent from the field, and that was Aman Thompson, who's

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Speaker 2: really fricking good at twenty two. I mean, you guys

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Speaker 2: know he's a defensive stalwart, but his offense is starting

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Speaker 2: to come around. If he doesn't let it go to

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Speaker 2: his head and he gets in the gym and works

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Speaker 2: with a shot doctor. I mean, this guy's a limbit.

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Speaker 2: For this kid, he'll be an All Star in a

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Speaker 2: year or two if he keeps this up. Because remember

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Speaker 2: we're phasing out. You know in two years, is kd

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Speaker 2: at thirty nine gonna be a factor. I don't know

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Speaker 2: what do we have from Curry in two years? Where's

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Speaker 2: I mean, Lebron might be retired in two years, so

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Speaker 2: we're gonna have a bunch of new guys come up,

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Speaker 2: and these Thompson twins are good. But other than Thompson,

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Speaker 2: like Dylan Brooks struggled and he's still a goon. I

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Speaker 2: can't stand that guy. Sengoon struggled and he was not

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Speaker 2: even the Lakers didn't even play really a center last night.

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Speaker 2: Lebron had a monster block on him at the end

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Speaker 2: of the game. Fred van Vliet two of fourteen, Jalen

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Speaker 2: Green four of thirteen. I think he was benched down

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Speaker 2: the stretch. Total non factor. They went with Jabari Smith

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Speaker 2: and Tarry Easan, who I like both those guys a lot.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot on the team. They have seven strong players.

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Speaker 2: Cam Wanmore didn't even get in the game. I think

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Speaker 2: he's very good. Reed Shepherd they like a lot. I

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Speaker 2: think at some point you basically said to the Sun's hey,

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Speaker 2: other than Aman Thompson and probably Tarry Easton, who do

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Speaker 2: you want on our team? And the Sons obviously will

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Speaker 2: want to cut salaries significantly, so the one expiring deals,

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Speaker 2: my guess is they would want to get in on

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Speaker 2: the Reed Shepherd action. I don't know who the Rockets

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Speaker 2: offensive half court guy. They scored ninety eight points. I'm

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Speaker 2: just telling you now, I like the Rockets a lot.

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Speaker 2: If they face anyone other than the Grizzlies they're losing

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Speaker 2: in the first round, they'll probably be able to beat

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Speaker 2: the Grizzlies, who are not good at all and just

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Speaker 2: fire their coach. As for the Lakers, Ruy Hachi Mora

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Speaker 2: airball three late. Sometimes I feel like he's just out

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Speaker 2: there getting cardio. How are you six' ten occasionally playing?

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Speaker 2: Center Because Jackson hayes barely played and you get two

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Speaker 2: rebounds in thirty one. MINUTES i just don't get. THAT i,

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Speaker 2: Mean Gabe vincent goes oufter for twenty three minutes and

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Speaker 2: gets four, rebounds like he's hustling his butt. Off by the,

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Speaker 2: Way gab vinzit was huge with six. Threes The lakers

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Speaker 2: got twelve threes from their. Bench Drian Finney smith hit,

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Speaker 2: Six gabe hit. Six the Starters Luca lebron And reeves

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Speaker 2: combined to go thro for fourteen from. Three Tasson rui's

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Speaker 2: won for, six and it was a nightmare from the

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Speaker 2: starters for. Three that being, said they got the. Win

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Speaker 2: that's all the. Matters lakers now because obviously The lakers

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Speaker 2: are gonna be the story in The. West, sorry, okay,

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Speaker 2: See lakers are now What gabe back Of denver for the,

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Speaker 2: three and they are two games back Of houston for the.

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Speaker 2: Two So lakers trying to be on the heels of

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Speaker 2: The rockets as long as you don't have to face

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Speaker 2: okay see in the first. ROUND i think you're. Fine

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Speaker 2: that being, Said Golden state's coming. Strong The clippers And

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Speaker 2: timberwolves are playing. GOOD i mean we might see The

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Speaker 2: grizzlies fall into the, plane which would be a gift

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Speaker 2: for whoever gets the two seed or the one. Trying trust,

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Speaker 2: me The grizzlies are not. Good dallas starting to show

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Speaker 2: signs of, life although they had a tough. Loss was

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Speaker 2: It sunday or last? Night, no it was last. Night

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Speaker 2: SAW i saw a lot of minutes For, Drew timmy

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Speaker 2: remember The gonzaga a, leegend he had a he had

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Speaker 2: a nice little. Game and The. MAVs i'm still not

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Speaker 2: a believer despite a d being back and yeah this,

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Speaker 2: SEASON i don't believe When kyrie comes back in like eight,

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Speaker 2: months talk to. Me but as of now the play

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Speaker 2: in matchups would Be Timberwolves clippers for the. Seven that's

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Speaker 2: a that's a toss. Up those teams are both very

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Speaker 2: good And MAVs kings is an elimination. Game that again

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Speaker 2: and toss. Up i'll just Lean kings there Because i'm

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Speaker 2: really just out on The MAVs at this. Point, suns

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Speaker 2: you know they could still get, in but WITH kd

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Speaker 2: out at least a, week it's it's not looking good at. All,

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Speaker 2: anyways great win for The, lakers and they got a big,

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Speaker 2: one big One thursday against The warriors who were trying

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Speaker 2: us Off, FRIDAY i can now maybe go to The

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Speaker 2: laker Game, thursday and so kind of sort of excited about. That,

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Speaker 2: anyways without further, ado let's get to our, Guest Sam

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Speaker 2: blum from The.

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Speaker 2: Does let's just SAY i know a guy who knows

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Speaker 2: the guy who knows another. Guy all, right let's welcome

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Speaker 2: into Straight, fire a first timer here on the. Podcast, now,

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Speaker 2: listen baseball just started last, week and holy, cow did

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Speaker 2: a massive story take over the entire. Weekend and to

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Speaker 2: talk torpedo. Bats Sam blum From The Athletic, sam how you, doing.

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Speaker 3: Man i'm, Good, jason are You i'm.

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Speaker 2: Excellent i'm intrigued by everything that's happened so far with

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Speaker 2: the torpedo. Bats make me aware because you WROTE i

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Speaker 2: think the definitive story on. Them when did they first

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Speaker 3: RADAR i, MEAN i think like for most, people it

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Speaker 3: was After Saturdays yankees And, brewers you, know they you,

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Speaker 3: know The yankees have twenty, runs not a franchise, record nine,

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Speaker 3: homers and it's you, KNOW i think it's an, interesting you,

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Speaker 3: know topic of conversation because that wasn't really like the

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Speaker 3: start of these. Bats you, know this is dated back

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Speaker 3: to you, KNOW i think really twenty twenty. TWO i

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Speaker 3: Year Gehan Carlos stan use. Them so this is not

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Speaker 3: like necessarily a completely new. Revelation BUT i think what what,

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Speaker 3: talking about it on the, broadcast it brought it into

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Speaker 3: impact the game as we see it day to. DAY i,

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Speaker 3: think you, know this is something that we might see

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Speaker 2: Yeah and in your, article which is a great piece

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Speaker 2: of The, athletic it basically says The, twins there's a

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Speaker 2: so it's been, around but it didn't pop until The

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Speaker 2: yankees The Evil empire. Did do you think it has

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Speaker 2: know the person who invented this. Tech, NO i would say,

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Speaker 3: Technology but the guy who really thought of this came

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Speaker 3: Professor i'm and it totally bought you, Know butcher the

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Speaker 3: this was you, know A, yankee Former yankees. Coach now

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Speaker 3: with The, marlins who you, know FORMER mit physics. PROFESSOR

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Speaker 3: i believe it's all that who you know created this this.

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Speaker 3: Idea and it's funny to me because, it's LIKE i,

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Speaker 3: said this is. Nothing there's something proprietary about, this, Right

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Speaker 3: it's just moving the barrel a little bit down on the,

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Speaker 3: bat which you know theory makes so much. Sense everyone's

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Speaker 3: know this has been allowed. Forever so it's it's funny

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Speaker 3: to some, extent The yankees are going to you, know

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Speaker 3: draw the, eyeballs draw the. ATTENTION i think if this

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Speaker 2: Else, Yeah baseball's a sport where they really cherish the

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Speaker 2: Live let me ask. You have a great quote From

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Speaker 2: know LIKE i find it a little strange that this

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Speaker 3: All you, know it did a little, bit just that

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Speaker 3: are resistant to. Change it's, like who's this nerd standing

424
00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:18,920
Speaker 3: in front of me telling ME i need to like

425
00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,240
Speaker 3: change my dat to like look like some weird torpedo. Thing,

426
00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,480
Speaker 3: yeah you, know and then all of a, sudden some

427
00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,119
Speaker 3: some smart players like figure out that it, works and

428
00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:28,640
Speaker 3: then it becomes a, thing and it's, like oh, man

429
00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,440
Speaker 3: The yankees just hitt nine home, Runs so, YEAH i

430
00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,360
Speaker 3: THINK i think part of that the reason people haven't

431
00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:34,800
Speaker 3: heard about it as much is because a lot of

432
00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:36,919
Speaker 3: players probably wrote it off when they first did hear about. It.

433
00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,439
Speaker 2: Yeah it almost feels like in life sometimes we're just

434
00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,080
Speaker 2: so used to one thing and the way it is

435
00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,400
Speaker 2: a baseball, bat you, know you don't, think, hmm how

436
00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,640
Speaker 2: COULD i make this more? Efficient, right everybody's been picking

437
00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,240
Speaker 2: up bats for the last you, know you're a young,

438
00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,080
Speaker 2: guy but, LIKE i don't, Know i've been swinging bats

439
00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,160
Speaker 2: for like forty. YEARS i never even, thought how can

440
00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,400
Speaker 2: we make this more? Efficient it's JUST i think it's

441
00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,199
Speaker 2: pretty cool To and this guy was a kind of

442
00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,000
Speaker 2: a non baseball, guy, Right he was like An mit

443
00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:00,080
Speaker 2: physics professor.

444
00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,399
Speaker 3: Something, yeah, exactly, SO i, mean you, know And Brendan

445
00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,080
Speaker 3: cutty had a good story On The athletic about this

446
00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,399
Speaker 3: guy in. PARTICULAR i mean it's, yeah it's this IS i,

447
00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:12,119
Speaker 3: mean smart organizations across baseball are are innovating in these

448
00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,520
Speaker 3: ways my, opinion, Right, LIKE i think that's partly why you,

449
00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:18,080
Speaker 3: see you, know teams like The, dodgers The, yankees like

450
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,640
Speaker 3: like they're not just paying every free agent like they're

451
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,120
Speaker 3: they're doing smart things behind the, scenes employing smart people

452
00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,439
Speaker 3: that can that. That you, KNOW i think, critically think you,

453
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,679
Speaker 3: know big picture and think long, term and that's The

454
00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,879
Speaker 3: this is the product of smart people being in the

455
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,119
Speaker 3: game and smart organizations doing the right. THINGS i, mean you,

456
00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,240
Speaker 3: KNOW i think when you look at other organizations like The,

457
00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,720
Speaker 3: rockies The, pirates The, angels, like, uh you, know teams

458
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:44,480
Speaker 3: that haven't necessarily had, success The White sox Like marlins at.

459
00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,640
Speaker 3: TIMES i, mean The marlins are maybe unique situation because

460
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,919
Speaker 3: they obviously have this. Guy but you, know, it's, uh you,

461
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,160
Speaker 3: know you're not seeing necessarily that that type of innovation long.

462
00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,800
Speaker 3: Term you, know you're you're not seeing the type of

463
00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,439
Speaker 3: investment across the. Organization SO i think that you, know

464
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,360
Speaker 3: this isn't AN i think that's WHAT i would say

465
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,679
Speaker 3: is you have smart people in your. Organization they come

466
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,879
Speaker 3: up with smart, ideas and it might take, years it

467
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,439
Speaker 3: might take a, while but, ultimately like this is what

468
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:09,480
Speaker 3: this is why the game.

469
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 2: Grows SO i THOUGHT i saw a stat that g

470
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,320
Speaker 2: And Carlos stanton is one of like the big guys

471
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 2: who has had a massive increase in his bat velocity.

472
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 2: Swing if we start seeing these numbers for, everybody there's

473
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 2: no way that this doesn't become like a total seat

474
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:26,920
Speaker 2: change around the, league.

475
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 3: Right, YEAH i MEAN i think With stanton he may

476
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,680
Speaker 3: have you, know he was already kind of the hardest

477
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 3: swinging player in. Baseball that's. Fair, yeah, yeah, Yeah and but,

478
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 3: YEAH i, mean LIKE i, think you, know from what

479
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 3: we've talked, with from all people we talk, to, like you,

480
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,440
Speaker 3: know some people say that they think it will increase bat.

481
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,239
Speaker 3: Speed some people say that it. Won't some people say

482
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 3: that it won't increase bat, speed but it might increase

483
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,439
Speaker 3: exit velocity. Overall so, OVERALL i, mean if you're increasing

484
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 3: your exit velocity even just a mile a mile and

485
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 3: a half on, average that's what fifteen extra hits a.

486
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,400
Speaker 3: YEAR i mean some one of the players was. Estimating

487
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 3: so you, KNOW i think that's that like any advantage

488
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,160
Speaker 3: you can get in BASE i, mean you know, baseball

489
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 3: like you, understand it's about it's about getting those fifteen

490
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 3: extra hits over one hundred and sixty two. Games it's

491
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,879
Speaker 3: like any little thing that can make you a tiny

492
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,720
Speaker 3: bit more, effective that can extend your career one more, year,

493
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,439
Speaker 3: Right like that's what anybody's looking. For so in my,

494
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,479
Speaker 3: opinion you, know it'll be interesting to see and one

495
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 3: of the other really fascinating elements to, me as you Mentioned,

496
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,679
Speaker 3: stanton you, know one of the players we talked to

497
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 3: said that he didn't think this necessarily was for the big.

498
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 3: Sluggers like the sluggers might be are more prone to

499
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,919
Speaker 3: hitting balls off the regular part of the. Barrel this

500
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,639
Speaker 3: isn't necessarily something that we'll see those types of hitters,

501
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 3: do like An Aaron. Judge BUT i don't, know maybe

502
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 3: it's maybe maybe that's, right maybe that's, wrong BUT i

503
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 3: think that's something to look for and we get to

504
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,639
Speaker 3: see Show Heyo, Tani Mike, trout like you, know the

505
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 3: big superstars in the game start to change their. Bets

506
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:43,680
Speaker 3: maybe maybe.

507
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 2: NOT i like how you phrased, it like over the

508
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,200
Speaker 2: course of a, season fifteen extra, hits that's that's. Significant

509
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 2: very but it's almost like, gambling, Right so people, say, hey,

510
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 2: MAN i have a tiny edge AND i can go

511
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 2: up TO i can hit fifty nine percent of my,

512
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 2: bets and people are, like, oh that's that's not. Good

513
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 2: well over the long, haul and baseball is a long

514
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,880
Speaker 2: what one sixty two, games like that's the longest season

515
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:03,400
Speaker 2: of professional.

516
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 3: Sports not, BAD i mean.

517
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 2: Significant i'm fifty nine percent of gambling would be amazing

518
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 2: for a. Season but you, know it's just that small.

519
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 2: Edge BECAUSE i saw a. Stat well wait a, Minute

520
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 2: diskuy on The twins went over four using that. Bat i'm, like,

521
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 2: guys that that's one, Game like like can we track

522
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 2: up over the course of a.

523
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 3: Season you, know yeah, EXACTLY i, mean and you know

524
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 3: for four it can mean, anything, right it can mean

525
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 3: you hit the ball, harder certain play. Like it's just

526
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 3: it doesn't like it's like you, said like it's over

527
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,199
Speaker 3: the course of the. Year that's what baseball is all.

528
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 3: About it's just like how do you? Perform any game

529
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 3: can give you absolutely no information but one hundred and

530
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,679
Speaker 3: sixty two games gives you a lot of. Information SO

531
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 3: i think these, BATS i would throw out that That

532
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,199
Speaker 3: yankees game On, saturday it doesn't really. Matter all it

533
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 3: did was created a conversation for people and SHOWCASE i

534
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,239
Speaker 3: think what maybe this could mean for the. Game and

535
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 3: so we'll. SEE i mean IT'S i think that's all this.

536
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 1: Is we'll.

537
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 3: See but you, know, again like if if players believe in,

538
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 3: it you'll see. It and it doesn't really matter how

539
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,080
Speaker 3: actually effective it is if it's. Believed and we you,

540
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 3: know if you look at the last quote there From, jazzism,

541
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,199
Speaker 3: right like he even, said LIKE i don't even know

542
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 3: if this works to some, Extent like in my head it,

543
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 3: works and so that for me is Why i'm doing,

544
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 3: it AND i respect. THAT i think that's exactly like

545
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,360
Speaker 3: you know kind of what baseball, is, Right it's it's

546
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 3: a mental, game and it's about that those maybe that

547
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 3: one extra thing you can do right that can get

548
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 3: you an.

549
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 2: Edge i'll get you out of here on. This, obviously

550
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 2: you cover The angels very. Closely Mike trout is a

551
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,919
Speaker 2: big buzzy. Name could The angels trade? HIM i know

552
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 2: it's early in the season long way to, Go but

553
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 2: any thoughts on Mister, trout who has obviously had an amazing,

554
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 2: career and there's it just seems like the chatters out

555
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 2: there that he could be.

556
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 3: DEALT i don't think. SO i would be really, shocked

557
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 3: to be honest with. You and there's a lot of,

558
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 3: reasons but the main one is his contract isn't very

559
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 3: favorable for a. TRADE i think he also needs to

560
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 3: prove THAT i think that he can stay healthy and be,

561
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 3: effective which are things that he's not really done over

562
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 3: the last four years except for maybe twenty twenty. Two

563
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 3: so it's, just you, know it's been a long stretch

564
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 3: of like just not being really. Tradable HE'S i think

565
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 3: thirty to turn thirty four this, year If i'm not,

566
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 3: MISTAKEN i don't really see he's got six years left

567
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,479
Speaker 3: on his. Contract this is the time when you wouldn't

568
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 3: be able to really trade, somebody and especially when they're

569
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 3: making you, know over thirty five million dollars a. Year

570
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 3: so unless The angels would eat a lot of that,

571
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 3: MONEY i don't see why they would do. That or

572
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 3: the only other SCENARIO i could really see, is you,

573
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 3: know if the team's really really bad and shouts like

574
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 3: AN mvp level good that there might be some interest

575
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 3: and that might be the right time to. Strike but even,

576
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 3: THEN i don't know how many teams would want to

577
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 3: take on that. Contract AND i think the best chance

578
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 3: he has of ever being traded is maybe the last

579
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 3: year of the, seconds last year of his, deal when

580
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 3: you maybe want to go, play you, know in The

581
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 3: phillies or someplace closer closer to The east coast where he's.

582
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 2: From, So, sam do you prefer torpedo bats or bowling

583
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 2: pin as like a phrase for that.

584
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 3: Torpedo bats, MAN i, think, okay sounds, fun but you, know.

585
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 3: BOWLING i, mean we'll see even this this thing is

586
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 3: all just getting, started so it's gonna oh, yeah it's

587
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 3: just to be. Good all plays, out.

588
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,199
Speaker 2: All, Right Sam blum The athletic Great stuff read his.

589
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 2: Story thanks a, Lot.

590
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 3: Sam Thanks, jason appreciate.

591
00:25:58,800 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: It