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Speaker 1: Live at the Greenbrier Resort in West Virginia for Brown's

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Speaker 1: training camp. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Bally Bett. Coming soon to Ohio on eight fifty

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Speaker 1: ESPN Cleveland. Hey, you are your hosts, Nathan Zigura and

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Speaker 1: your Rod Cherry.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon and welcome in to the Greenbriar Sports Performance

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Speaker 2: Center in West Virginia. Nathan Zegura, Jason Gibbs with you

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Speaker 2: here today. Rod Cherry will be joining at one thirty Gibbe.

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Speaker 2: The Browns had a day off yesterday. We had a

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Speaker 2: day off yesterday. Boy did we It was glorious. Zigura

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Speaker 2: tried to kill himself. Yeah, my back's a little sore today.

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Speaker 2: I did something I've never done before, which is played

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Speaker 2: fifty four holes of golf in one day.

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Speaker 3: No, thank you.

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Speaker 4: The eighteen we played at four o'clock when it was

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Speaker 4: ninety five degrees was more than enough for me.

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Speaker 2: There was one point where we thought maybe we weren't

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Speaker 2: gonna survive that golf course, and then out of nowhere,

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Speaker 2: and then out of nowhere, we just typed out, like

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Speaker 2: the prices for things off of that golf cart, the

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Speaker 2: snack cart at the Greenbrier are very exorbitant. I would say,

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Speaker 2: it's like they know that they've got you here and

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Speaker 2: you can't do anything else. You're out on this golf

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Speaker 2: course in sweltering heat. But we were just like, you

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Speaker 2: know what, We're willing to go all in now if

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Speaker 2: we can see this lady. And as if she heard it,

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Speaker 2: the cart comes out of the like a mirage in

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Speaker 2: the desert, and there she was, and we finally got

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Speaker 2: But it was it was a great day, great time,

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Speaker 2: and for the Cleveland Browns today was a time a

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Speaker 2: day after that, you know, to get a chance to

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Speaker 2: see veteran teams. They respond well to those days off.

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Speaker 2: They know how to handle them. Teams that are very

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Speaker 2: professional and going about their business and they come out

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Speaker 2: and they're very sharp. And that's what we saw today.

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Speaker 2: We saw an incredibly sharp practice from the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 2: A lot of highlights, a lot of things to get to,

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Speaker 2: but let's just start with and these are our hot

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Speaker 2: topics of the day, presented by Vivid Seats, an official

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Speaker 2: fan experience partner of the Cleveland Browns. Injuries Anthony Schwartz

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Speaker 2: returned to practice today for the first time. He did

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Speaker 2: not participate in anything other than individual drills, didn't do

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Speaker 2: one on ones, didn't do team any of that. But

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Speaker 2: he was back at practice for the first time today,

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Speaker 2: which was good to see. Rodney McLoud and Dave and

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Speaker 2: Nijoku were given veteran days off, and that's something that

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Speaker 2: we'll see throughout this camp. I think they're going to

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Speaker 2: kind of rotate those guys in waves. A couple guys here,

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Speaker 2: a couple guys there. My guess is for the padded practices,

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Speaker 2: they're going to want to get everybody out there tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: and so I would expect that we'll see that. Still

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Speaker 2: not practicing today, Marquise Goodwin, Amari Cooper, Colby Gassett, and

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Speaker 2: see on a Taki Taki. Matthew Adams will be out

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Speaker 2: a few weeks with a calf injury. He is currently

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Speaker 2: in a boot and he was brought in here to

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Speaker 2: be a special team's ace. But that's given some young

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Speaker 2: guys will highlight some people who really kind of stood

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Speaker 2: out here an opportunity to step up in that linebacker room. Also,

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Speaker 2: Mike Carley Junior and Jacob Phillips left the practice field

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Speaker 2: with trainers. No word there, but I do not believe

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Speaker 2: either of those are considered to be serious, especially on

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Speaker 2: Mike Harley junior side, because we'll talk to him after

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Speaker 2: practice and felt like the things were gonna be okay. Now,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that means you miss a whole time,

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Speaker 2: but he had a very nice day for them. We'll

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Speaker 2: get in that some of the highlights of the day,

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Speaker 2: but that's kind of where everything stood from a standpoint

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Speaker 2: still Jaqem Grant not participating in the wide receiver drills yet.

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Speaker 2: He is doing some punt returning, but not yet participating

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Speaker 2: in wide receiver drills. But this team came out after

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Speaker 2: their day off and I thought had a great day

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Speaker 2: of practice here today. And as we said, the defense

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Speaker 2: Tuesday session. Today, it was the offense, especially in the

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Speaker 2: of the day, DeShawn Watson was on fire.

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Speaker 3: He was on fire.

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Speaker 2: And listen, you know, to take my word for it

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Speaker 2: because we're gonna have an interview and leave me if

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Speaker 2: you're tuning in now, you need to stay with us

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Speaker 2: obviously until three o'clock, but you definitely want We got

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Speaker 2: Jid Cherry coming up at won thirty. Weel here from

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Speaker 2: the head coach comes to Fanski at around one twenty

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Speaker 2: and then an hour number two kicking off our number two,

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Speaker 2: we've got a one on one that I just recorded

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Speaker 2: Watson did. But he's also got a lot of comments

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Speaker 2: on this roster, on this team and what he believes

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Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns are capable of that you do not

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Speaker 2: want to miss because he knows he's done it. He's

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Speaker 2: only played in the AFC Championship Game or the Super

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Speaker 2: what it takes and what teams that are able to

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Speaker 2: achieve great things what they look like. Gibb I thought

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Speaker 2: today was, as I said, very sharp practice. Deshaun Watson.

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Speaker 2: You could the talent is immense, and he started making

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Speaker 2: glad he's on our team because this is gonna be

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Speaker 2: a great back and forth. I think we're gonna have

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Speaker 4: I thought the offense looked good, but the defense had

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Speaker 4: some great moments today too. Yeah, I understand Watson looked

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Speaker 4: goods it looked great. Uh who had the big catch

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a great one.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you had a couple of just lasers in

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Speaker 2: bomb to Jalen Darden that Watson threw just dropped into

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Speaker 3: For the ends. Yeah, they did, they did.

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Speaker 2: anybody on Brown's Twitter, that route has made its way

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Speaker 2: out there, little jerk route working one on one with Denzel.

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Speaker 2: He slipped, still got up. Watson put the ball world

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Speaker 2: So very sharp day, both sides of the ball to

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Speaker 2: your point, and it was just it's good to see

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Speaker 2: this is a good football team. It feels different watching

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Speaker 2: you know, and then these things these are not. This

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Speaker 2: think we'll see more running. I would imagine in tomorrow

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Speaker 2: that that's kind of where we're at in terms of

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Speaker 2: seeing the ground game, Nick Chobb, we haven't seen much

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Speaker 2: It's impossible to say when people aren't tackling, because that's

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Speaker 4: I think the most interesting thing was I think we

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Speaker 3: Like after a day off.

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Speaker 4: But they look great, and you know, the first couple

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Speaker 4: was no cloud cover. There was no uh when the

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Speaker 4: but and you're just like, okay, so what are they

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Speaker 4: all of the above. If you're Kevin Stefanski, you got

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Speaker 4: to be ecstatic with the work you got today.

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Speaker 2: You've got to be thrilled. And this is the kind

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Speaker 2: the route Elijah Moore ran on that touchdown. He had

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Speaker 2: the paces of what happened today. Kind of the progression

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Speaker 2: I thought that absolutely put on a show and stood

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Speaker 2: It was getting open on short routes. He was selling verticals,

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Speaker 2: I think every pass that was thrown to him in

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Speaker 2: one thing to just say that they're all completed. They

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Speaker 2: Maybe he's trying to push to make this fifty three.

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Speaker 2: We'll see, it's gonna be interesting. Then on the other side,

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Speaker 2: he had the tight ends again. No David Njoko out

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Speaker 2: there today. Aikens continues to look very good. Room forward

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Speaker 2: at maybe the play of the day and one on

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Speaker 2: He had a couple of PBUs and the one on ones.

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Speaker 2: He's just everywhere. He's got a natural leadership bout him.

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Speaker 2: We've talked about Jason Tarver highlighting him, and you think

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Speaker 2: So that was what we saw today, good practice. We're

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Speaker 3: You know what his vantage point was.

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Speaker 5: Talk about it. Few versatility allows you allows you to

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Speaker 6: As versatile as you well, in order to be versatile,

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Speaker 3: I don't know the party that he's gonna be out that.

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Speaker 7: I mean, do you have a void for the rod

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Speaker 7: to stretch.

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Speaker 5: Guy or do you really will get to have Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I think we're comfortable with where we are, Mary Kay,

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Speaker 6: with the players that we have. We have, we have

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Speaker 6: versatility in that room. I know you mentioned Marquis and

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Speaker 6: Anthony in their skill sets, but we're confident with the

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Speaker 6: guys we have.

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Speaker 7: Are there any other the younger guys that maybe cut

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Speaker 7: your eye in terms of the impression.

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Speaker 5: The Mays are more in this campas and the honest season.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's hard to say because it's early, but

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Speaker 6: this rookie class is is uh. I'm impressed with how

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Speaker 6: they take care of their business. They're not pros yet,

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Speaker 6: they're gonna be rookies for this whole season.

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Speaker 5: But we put a lot on there.

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Speaker 3: What do you expect to add to them?

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Speaker 5: Kiss?

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Speaker 6: Yes, see, a few more competitive periods. We're gonna work

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Speaker 6: some situations. We'll be back in the red zone again.

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Speaker 6: I think it's really important early to get red zone

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Speaker 6: work because number one, it also takes some running off

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Speaker 6: of your receivers the more you get in there. And

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Speaker 6: I just think it's important for both sides offensively defense

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Speaker 6: to be locked in down there because we know that's points.

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Speaker 5: Kevin, you guys brought back company Walker. Just what does

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Speaker 5: he mean?

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Speaker 7: I guess, you know, for an intangible standpoint, and then

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Speaker 7: just the work he's done to come back from that injury.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Intangible's hard to describe, obviously, but he's the presence.

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Speaker 3: His presence has.

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Speaker 6: Felt really throughout the building, meeting rooms, weight room, on

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Speaker 6: the on the field.

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Speaker 8: He's a pros pro.

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Speaker 6: And just with his career and what he's been able

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Speaker 6: to accomplish and plays at a high level and then provides.

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Speaker 9: Great leadership off the field with that, Kevin, I mean,

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Speaker 9: he's been around for a while. You have a serious

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Speaker 9: injury like that. What does it say about a guy

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Speaker 9: to say and I'm committed to coming back and continuing

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Speaker 9: to do this.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's I'll tell you what. It's hard when you're

476
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Speaker 6: injured and you're out of it. It's so easy to

477
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Speaker 6: feel like you're away from the team. And that was

478
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Speaker 6: never where Awalk was even while dealing with the injury

479
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Speaker 6: last year, and then to come back. You know, we

480
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Speaker 6: were so excited that we were able to bring him

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Speaker 6: back because you know, I think he represents a lot

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Speaker 6: of what we are.

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Speaker 7: The defense was real, chatty and understandably sold at seven

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Speaker 7: on seven the other day. Just I know there's ebbs

485
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Speaker 7: and flows, you know, to this from your perspective, when

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Speaker 7: you see a period like that where the offense doesn't

487
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Speaker 7: have the success, how do you book at that when

488
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Speaker 7: you're going back and you're kind of dissecting things and

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Speaker 7: then your conversations like with DeShawn.

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Speaker 6: And some of the teaching women's Oh yeah, I mean

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Speaker 6: that was great work for both sides, Like Today's gonna

492
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Speaker 6: be great work for both sides. It's football. Sometimes the

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Speaker 6: defense is gonna win, sometimes the offense is gonna win. Luckily,

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Speaker 6: I always win as the head coach, so I'm happy

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Speaker 6: either way. But it's it's there are great, great competitive

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Speaker 6: reps to learn from, and that's that's gonna be true

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Speaker 6: throughout this train camp.

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Speaker 2: That's Brown's head coach Kevin Stefanski prior to this practice

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Speaker 2: talking about some of the new additions on the Cleveland

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Speaker 2: Browns and Elijah Moore is and Darius Smith, both of

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Speaker 2: them hard to miss when you come out and watch

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Speaker 2: the Browns practice.

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Speaker 3: I like his thought.

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Speaker 4: I would, no matter what the offense has a good day,

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Speaker 4: I have a good day. Well, here's the thing, got

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Speaker 4: a little bit of both today, coach, and when you're

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Speaker 4: talking to some of the players afterwards, some of the coaches,

508
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Speaker 4: as I did. And that's one of the neat things

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Speaker 4: about Baby being able to be here is that you know,

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Speaker 4: in Berea, we wouldn't be able to go in there

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Speaker 4: and break bread with them right after a practice. We

512
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Speaker 4: do get to do that here at the Greenbrier, and

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Speaker 4: so you're able to kind of get some of those

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Speaker 4: insights and you know that. Yeah, there are ebbs and flows.

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Speaker 4: That is back and forth.

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Speaker 2: But as one coach put it to me, we are

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Speaker 2: good and you you know, not my side of the ball,

518
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Speaker 2: not the other side of the ball. We are good.

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Speaker 2: This team is good and that is why a lot

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Speaker 2: of people have a lot of optimism about what this

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Speaker 2: team can be this year. And that's why we're putting

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Speaker 2: in building the foundation right now. Tomorrow will be really

523
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Speaker 2: kind of the first step on the ground floor, right

524
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Speaker 2: getting the pads on, getting to work. I know, the

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Speaker 2: first preseason game is a week away. That's not really

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Speaker 2: for the guys that will be playing against the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 2: That's just the fact of the matter. It's not I

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Speaker 2: don't know that you'll see save for maybe a guy

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Speaker 2: that you'll see on special teams, I don't know that

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Speaker 2: you're gonna see anybody that you'll see on the field

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Speaker 2: against the Cincinnati Bengals. So that first game, though, is

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Speaker 2: a great opportunity for some of the young people who

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Speaker 2: have been flashing to continue that front offense, you know,

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Speaker 2: for Dorian Thompson, Robinson, for Jerome Ford, for Mike Harley,

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Speaker 2: Junior Jalen Dard and Dalen Baldwin, Cedric Tillman, those young

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Speaker 2: players I've had. You'll see David Bell, who I think

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Speaker 2: trying to still kind of figure his way out here

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Speaker 2: as a wide receiver in the NFL after being so

539
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Speaker 2: darned good at Purdue. And then defensively, it's it's for

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Speaker 2: those young guys trying to sort out that defensive room,

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Speaker 2: defensive endroom.

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Speaker 3: The two Isaiahs.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna see, you know, Ika get some opportunity, Maurice

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Speaker 2: Hurst trying to resurrect his career here. The linebacking corps.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna see so much of Diabata and Charlie Thomas

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Speaker 2: because they have opportunities to make a statement.

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Speaker 3: Diabodi's done that.

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Speaker 2: On the back end, you're gonna see these young guys,

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Speaker 2: d Anthony Bell, a couple of Ohio State coos, Ronnie Hickman, McAlister.

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Speaker 2: So there's a lot good that's gonna go on in

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Speaker 2: those games that are not necessarily relativant to what's going

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Speaker 2: to happen when the Browns play the Bengals, but will

553
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Speaker 2: be an important part of shaping this roster, not only

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Speaker 2: for this year, but taking a look at some of

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Speaker 2: the succession planning that Andrew Berry, who's engaged in a

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Speaker 2: phone call just off to our right right now, is

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Speaker 2: that he's doing in the planning of this this roster,

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Speaker 2: not just for this season, but for this season certainly

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Speaker 2: and beyond. When we come back talking about you know

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Speaker 2: what it takes to win a Super Bowl? Who knows

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Speaker 2: better than three time Super Bowl champion Gerrod Cherry, Brown's

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Speaker 2: sideline reporter. He joins us next year when Cleveland Brown's

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Speaker 3: Day off.

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Speaker 2: I think it's an important day to see how players

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Speaker 2: the team responds to that freedom that they had yesterday,

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Speaker 2: the ability to kind of go out and do whatever,

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Speaker 2: get their mind right, get their body right. You wanted

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Speaker 2: to see it, be Chris, what did you see?

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Speaker 3: I saw early on I thought, okay, this is gonna

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Speaker 3: be another day. It was the defense domination, and all

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Speaker 3: of a sudden, I felt like the offense woke up

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Speaker 3: and it became a very competitive, active and fun practice

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Speaker 3: to watch. You saw a lot of talent display from

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Speaker 3: arm talent standpoint, as well as receivers catching difficult balls.

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Speaker 3: And when I really enjoyed was watching actual defensive coaches

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Speaker 3: give props to whire receivers and tight ends who made

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Speaker 3: some sensational plays. So it was a really active and

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Speaker 3: live practice because typically speaking, the day prior to PATS

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Speaker 3: is normally a situation where all right, let me just

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Speaker 3: get through this because the big day is really tomorrow,

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Speaker 3: so I'm gonna kind of ease my way through this.

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Speaker 3: But I didn't feel that was the case with this practice.

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Speaker 7: No.

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Speaker 2: I think there was a sense of urgency and it's

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Speaker 2: an opportunity, you know, to get good work.

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Speaker 3: And you mentioned it.

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Speaker 2: I thought that once Watson got going, he was on fire.

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Speaker 2: I thought, and you know, even here from wan Thorn

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Speaker 2: Hill he said, you know, he was cooking us out

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Speaker 2: there for a while when.

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Speaker 3: They got into the field portion of it.

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Speaker 2: In the middle of the field, I had a couple

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Speaker 2: of sequences where he hit basically every pass and he

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Speaker 2: was throwing the ball into some tight windows with a

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Speaker 2: lot of velocity.

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Speaker 3: Almost shit, yeah, almost shut.

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Speaker 2: But the ball was getting in there. You were up

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Speaker 2: a little bit higher when you were seeing it through

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Speaker 2: your defensive mind standpoint. You know, sometimes as a defense

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Speaker 2: you have to tip your cap. There were some of

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Speaker 2: those today where the defense was actually in position, had

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Speaker 2: a good call and the ball just got in there. Anyway, man, I.

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Speaker 3: Am totally defensive bias. We know that. Yes, there are

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Speaker 3: three or four times where I found myself clapping after

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Speaker 3: offensive play because it was that nice of a play

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Speaker 3: and that well executed from the throw to the catch

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Speaker 3: and just being in the right place and taking care

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Speaker 3: of business and making a difficult catch. So love what

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Speaker 3: I saw today out of offense. And again the defense

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Speaker 3: has some moments too, And I really love when my

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Speaker 3: man m j Emerson got the interception and run really well,

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Speaker 3: well really eighty yards if not further link to the

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Speaker 3: field and you had like eight or nine other defensive

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Speaker 3: players join them in running down the field and just

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Speaker 3: having fun. That's the type of stuff you want to see.

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Speaker 3: You want to obviously win, but you also want to

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Speaker 3: make it fun because when you make it fun, that's

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Speaker 3: what this is all about, creating camaraderie, creating a purpose

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Speaker 3: for why we're here playing football. And you're starting to

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Speaker 3: see again those things being built. We're in the early

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Speaker 3: stages of it, yes we are, but they are being built.

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Speaker 3: And that's the encouraging part because that right there, seeing

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Speaker 3: different guys sell it with their teammate on a great

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Speaker 3: play and it looked really legitimate organic enthusiasm. Oh, is

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Speaker 3: a great thing. And then again watching an offense come

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Speaker 3: back make plays and be just as enthusiastic about what

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Speaker 3: they were doing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you like to see that all right, outside of

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Speaker 2: Watson because we talked about him, but I'll start there

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Speaker 2: overall from Deshaun, what did you see today?

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Speaker 3: What I saw was we as we mentioned earlier, tight

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Speaker 3: almost shut windows in which you like, how do you

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Speaker 3: get that pass in there? You saw that take place,

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Speaker 3: and you also saw a couple of times where just

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Speaker 3: he and the receivers have to work on that rapport

652
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 3: and work on getting things connected. That's gonna take over

653
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 3: time and mainly with the younger guys. I saw that

654
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 3: more so than anything. But what you did walk away

655
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 3: from experience saying is like, man, we got ourselves a

656
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 3: heck of a quarterback. And how he was slinging as

657
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 3: we like.

658
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 2: To say that had a rock, Yeah he was, and

659
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 2: also had a nice dot on about a forty yard dime.

660
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 3: The Jalen Darden, who I thought had a nice team,

661
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 3: he's had a really I was gonna say, Jalen Darden,

662
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 3: you come out of here, you see number sixteen? Watch him? Yeah,

663
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 3: because he has had a really nice camp. First couple

664
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 3: of days kind of quiet, but today in particular, he

665
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 3: made a few plays and let everyone know about it.

666
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 3: I'm here to make some plays, so I was impressed

667
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 3: with his effort today. He definitely registered for me. Yeah,

668
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,479
Speaker 3: he has a skill set that is similar to Marquis Goodwin.

669
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 3: He is not the professional Marquis Goodwin is. But I'll

670
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 3: tell you what.

671
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 2: Marquis good is such a good dude that you can

672
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 2: see him even though he's not able to practice right now.

673
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 2: And the Browns are, you know, hopeful that they're able

674
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 2: to get him back by the start of the season.

675
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 2: And as Andrew Berry said, sometime in the next few

676
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 2: several weeks, I think was exact where he used. Will

677
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 2: have an idea of what the actual prognosis is for

678
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 2: Marquis Goodwin. But there's a speed void there. We even

679
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 2: heard it in a question to Kevin Stefanski in that

680
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 2: pre practice presser. Jalen Darden can fill that speed void.

681
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 2: We saw it on that vertical route there. He caught

682
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 2: a number of balls today in a variety of ways,

683
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 2: whether it was crossers, whether it was some were hitches

684
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 2: where he sold the deep and then came back. He

685
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 2: had a very nice day. He could be that guy,

686
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 2: and so for him, I think when the pads come

687
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 2: on in that Hall of Fame game, to continue to

688
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 2: produce like that will be critical, and then I think

689
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 2: he's got a real shot.

690
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 3: I think he has a great shot because all he

691
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 3: needs to do is take what he's doing on the

692
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 3: practice field, transfer that to Thursday night and beyond, because

693
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 3: that is truly gonna be the opportunity. And these guys

694
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 3: have I hope they have an idea and the clue

695
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 3: of how fortunate they are that coach Stefanski and the

696
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 3: rest of the coaching staff are going to feature these

697
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 3: guys in this game. See it as a great opportunity

698
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 3: because that's really what it is, and that's what preseason

699
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 3: used to be about, featuring guys and giving him a

700
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 3: chance to showcase what they have. And if he's doing

701
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 3: this and we're talking about Darton again on the practice field,

702
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 3: and he finds himself making similar plays, he'll he can

703
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 3: definitely be a true legitimate threat on our offense and

704
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 3: play a part in that. You never know, never count

705
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 3: yourself out because you're at the bottom of the depth chart.

706
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 3: I've seen guys who you thought had no chance and

707
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 3: you know what of making a roster and next thing

708
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 3: you know, they find themselves being a.

709
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 2: Starter absolutely all right, Who stood out to you on

710
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 2: offense today.

711
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 3: Other than de Sean, it had to be Darten. Okay,

712
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 3: every time he looked up he was making a big play. Yeah,

713
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 3: Balwin had a real nice catch, but Darden certainly, I

714
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 3: feel and give Hawking some love too. He made a

715
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 3: really nice catch his will, but Darden had more in

716
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 3: my opinion far as the deep passes. And don't forget

717
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 3: about Elijah Moore as well, because he made a few

718
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 3: passes also.

719
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 2: At this point, it's almost like it's almost silly saying, oh,

720
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 2: Elijah Moore stood out today. He stands out. It feels

721
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 2: like every single day. His route against Denzel Ward was

722
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 2: an incredible one, and then I love how Denzel came

723
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 2: back on the very next play. Got that give you there? Yeah,

724
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 2: I thought Darden had a great day. Mike Harley Junior.

725
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 2: I've talked about him a few times. He just seems

726
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 2: to have a knack for getting open. And then somebody

727
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 2: else that stood out to me. I'm curious to get

728
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 2: your take on it. Dorian Thompson. Robinson uh finally got

729
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 2: an opportunity to participate in the team drills. The young

730
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 2: quarterback out of UCLA the rookie his first pass, the

731
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 2: timing got disrupted and the balls a little late, almost

732
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 2: got picked off. But after that he settled in and

733
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 2: I thought he threw some nice balls not only down

734
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 2: the field but in the red zone. He and his

735
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 2: high school teammates Drick Tillman hooked up for touchdowns on

736
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 2: back to back plays in the red zone.

737
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 9: Yea.

738
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 3: And the past I believe he threw to Watkins yep,

739
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 3: was very impressive. Come across the field deep pass. He

740
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 3: shows you that he has ability to move on rolling left, Yeah,

741
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 3: and boom through those a dart and I really got

742
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 3: things in motion in my opinion for the offense for

743
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 3: the rest of the day, far as being more competitive

744
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 3: against a defense. So yes, he had a nice day

745
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 3: as well. Key part though, is consistency.

746
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 2: That sex young player, you gotta stack him stack those days,

747
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 2: I thought for him, and he's a guy that I've

748
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 2: gotten to know since we've drafted. Hi've got talked him

749
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 2: a few times. I think for him, you know you've

750
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 2: been waiting and waiting. Right You're sitting there, Kellen Man's

751
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 2: getting every rep. You're not getting any of the reps,

752
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 2: literally none, no team reps before today. I think to

753
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 2: show that composure and poise and be able to settle

754
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 2: in and play at that level. Was I thought that

755
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 2: was big for him. And I can tell you his

756
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 2: teammates like him, the coaches like him. He's an impressive

757
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 2: young man.

758
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 3: And what he has been doing, I've been paying attention

759
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 3: to him, to Nathan and is he's doing mental reps

760
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 3: and he's safe. For example of Deshaun or Dobbs is

761
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 3: under the center of Vumont, He'll have a center hike

762
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 3: the ball to him, pretend like he's them behind, go

763
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 3: through all the motions, go through the similar reads, and

764
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 3: pretend like he's throwing the football though he's not. But

765
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 3: he's doing that in like ten to twenty yards behind

766
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 3: the actual play or the line of scrimmage. So that

767
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 3: just shows you if you do whatever you can to

768
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 3: get those reps in. And when he stepp out on

769
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 3: football to day, he didn't skip miss a beat. No,

770
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 3: he certainly did not.

771
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 2: All right, let's go over to the defensive side of

772
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 2: the ball for you, Drid what did you see today

773
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 2: from that side?

774
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 3: Who stood out to you? I mentioned MJ with the interception.

775
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 3: That was nice. And I'm gonna give you the regulars.

776
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 3: Denzel Ward has a play called him, comes right back

777
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 3: and makes another play just to show it. Hey, I'm

778
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 3: a competitor out here, and I'm gonna go after practice too.

779
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 3: What I saw, Okay, I love when I see after

780
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 3: practice a guy working on his craft. Denzel war has

781
00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 3: spent about fifteen to twenty min everyday working on his craft.

782
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 3: And that's so key. You don't become an all pro

783
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 3: high ranking individual and Madden by accident, yep. You have

784
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 3: to be intentional with it, and Lord knows he has

785
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 3: the physical talent to do it. But it's also those

786
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 3: little extra things that you like working on your pass,

787
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 3: your bumping run and how you're gonna play that, working

788
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 3: on your releases from a cover to drop far as

789
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 3: your re routes and how you work on that. And

790
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 3: I'm watching him do these things, and it's not just

791
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 3: one day, Nathan, He's doing this daily. So he stood out.

792
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 3: And then also two I was watching one on ones

793
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,479
Speaker 3: and the linebacker's making plays in one on ones versus

794
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 3: the running backs, and Tony Field stood out. He made

795
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 3: some plays from a coverage standpoint, and Jordan Kannassk made

796
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 3: some plays also in seven on seven. So guys are

797
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 3: out here, making plays. So as hard pressed to say

798
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 3: one person completely dominated, sure, because across the board, for

799
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 3: as the linebackers and the secondary is concerned, guys were

800
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 3: making plays.

801
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 2: And I'd like to see Denzel Ward, you know, one

802
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 2: of the things we're all used to him getting a

803
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,919
Speaker 2: PBu like he did down in the red zone, coming

804
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 2: up with interceptions. But it's another thing to get kind

805
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 2: of fired up to see him make a nice runfit

806
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 2: out of the slot. That's not something that we've seen him.

807
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 2: We saw that in the team drills today, which again

808
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 2: goes back to me. It just it tells you how

809
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 2: bad and he is and how Bod and the rest

810
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 2: of the guys on that defense are right.

811
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 3: And the other thing too, just as you look and

812
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 3: observe things. When you see a Miles Garrett with the

813
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 3: rest of the guys running gassers after practice is over

814
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 3: on their own accord, not because they were told to,

815
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 3: but doing it as a group saying okay, let's do

816
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 3: some more things to get ourselves in better shape, and

817
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 3: Miles leading away with that Smith as well. Those things matter,

818
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 3: Those things add up, and those are the type of

819
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 3: things that you want to see take place with your

820
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 3: different units. And how guys again, you're here to work

821
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 3: and put in the work. You have to do that

822
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 3: if you want to have some success playing football. It's

823
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,919
Speaker 3: a must. It's it is a given. But some people

824
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 3: really do believe that you could just take just kind

825
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 3: of go through the motions. It can't be the case.

826
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 3: I saw during practice post practice was very encouraging. I

827
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 3: want to ask you a question about something that I

828
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 3: saw today. And one of the guys we know, you

829
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 3: know coach tarbor is already he sees some promise in him.

830
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 3: Number forty three, Muhammed Diabate, the linebacker getting opportunities, got

831
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 3: played with the ones today because remember Jacob Phillips went in,

832
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 3: Adams is out, Toki wasn't participating in the team, neither

833
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 3: was Anthony Walker Junior, so he had some opportunities. There

834
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 3: was a play where it was with the second team.

835
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 3: I believe it was Tristan Hill may have jumped off

836
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 3: sides and Diabate and after that the Browns got to

837
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 3: run kind of a free play. Diabate is an undrafted

838
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 3: free agent, kind of called everybody together and told the

839
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 3: Devins line, you can't we cannot be doing this like

840
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 3: you guys have got to lock in and stay on side,

841
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,439
Speaker 3: and I thought that was that was cool.

842
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 2: What as a player, what would you say, this is

843
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 2: his second practice?

844
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 3: Really?

845
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 2: I mean we called his fifth practice, and I know

846
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 2: there were things in the OTA's I mean he camp,

847
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 2: but second real practice of training camp. See an undrafted

848
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 2: free agent feel comfortable enough to be able to talk

849
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 2: like that too, In this case, a former second round

850
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 2: pick in Tristan Hell wha.

851
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 3: The fact that he had basing his voice in the

852
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 3: fact that he felt and he was right about what

853
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 3: he had to say. Ain't no coach gonna say, God,

854
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 3: you can't talk to them like that. He's right. And

855
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 3: that's the type of organic, natural leadership that you look

856
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,439
Speaker 3: for in players, because you do need guys. Your best

857
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,439
Speaker 3: locker rooms are always ones in which players hold each

858
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 3: other accountable. You want to identify those guys and hopefully

859
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 3: they make plays and fill your locker room with those

860
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 3: type of players, because when you get those type of

861
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 3: players to say, hey man, we're not settling for anything.

862
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 3: We're not gonna jump off sides, we're not gonna beat

863
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 3: ourselves the game is to way. The amount of ability

864
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 3: to not make mistakes that we have is limited. It's

865
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 3: a fine it's a fine line, and we cannot beat ourselves.

866
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 3: And how many times have we seen in the past

867
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 3: where that has been the case, where you find yourself saying, oh,

868
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 3: we didn't make that mistake here, we didn't make that

869
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 3: mistake there, we didn't win this game. And it all

870
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 3: starts right here because the same tendencies that you have

871
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 3: here will apply during the course of the season. So, yes,

872
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 3: you want somebody being that vocal. And the fact that

873
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 3: he did feel the liberty to do just that's one

874
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 3: at testament to him, like, Hey, I don't give a

875
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 3: damn if I was a free agent. We're out here

876
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 3: to play ball and play at a high level. Yeah.

877
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 3: I liked it.

878
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 2: I liked what I saw from him there all right,

879
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 2: right now, as we head into the first day of pads,

880
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 2: and I think the answer might be neither. But would

881
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 2: you say who's ahead, offense or defense, I'd say defense.

882
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 3: Still they are. I mean, offense made a nice comeback today,

883
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 3: but you still gave up a pick six. You still

884
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 3: had a situation where defense was knocking balls down and

885
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 3: it wasn't totally dominated by the offense. So in my

886
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 3: mind right now, the defense has the edge, and as

887
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 3: we've said before, they're supposed to have the edge. It's

888
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 3: early in the camp, and at some point that will

889
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 3: all change because again, offense, there's so many more different

890
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 3: intricacies to the parts and pieces of moving as opposed

891
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 3: to defense, and how hey hit the guy who run

892
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 3: through the guy knocked the ball down as opposed to

893
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 3: this fit has to be right here, the timing right here,

894
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 3: has to be like that, and all those things are

895
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 3: going to making a successful offensive play.

896
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 2: How is it as well approaching it from a defense end?

897
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 2: But when you're out here, especially when the pads are

898
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 2: non you pretty much know their passing. They sprinkle in

899
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 2: a run here or there, but for the most part, exactly,

900
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 2: it's a it's a passing exercise. Right when the pads

901
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 2: come on, we'll see more run plays. How does that

902
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 2: change the mindset of a defense?

903
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 7: Oh?

904
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 3: Well, one, now you have to be more on guard

905
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 3: and more alert because as you just said, that's a

906
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 3: tipping of the hand. Okay, we're in a past drill.

907
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 3: I don't think I'm gonna be running up towards the

908
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 3: line of scrimmage. You'll get myself mentally prepared for a

909
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 3: pass so and think about when we actually call the game.

910
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 3: The whole point is to keep a defense off balance. Yes,

911
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 3: it's kind of hard to keep a defense off balance

912
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 3: when they know you're in a pass and then and

913
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 3: on the football field and during practice run drill, Announson.

914
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 3: So it's not like it's an element of surprise that

915
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 3: can catch you off guard as a defensive player. Now,

916
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 3: every now and then, the smart ones will sprinkle in

917
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 3: a pass just to keep you off honest.

918
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 2: Right, And that's part of the fun of it. And

919
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 2: then they sprinkle in a play action, and right now

920
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 2: they are obviously able to have some success in the

921
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: play action even though it is a past drill. That

922
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 2: means you have good fakes. And that's one of the

923
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 2: things I know that you talked about and I think

924
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 2: that we've seen now. My question for you is with

925
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 2: DeShawn it does feel like there is an emphasis on

926
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 2: his ball handling and really stressing those play actions every

927
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 2: single time to make them look the same, much like

928
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 2: the greats Tom Brady that you played with and a

929
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 2: guy you played against in Peyton Manning, Right, the.

930
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 3: Greats always make it look the same. You don't want

931
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 3: to have hearted fake. You want the real deal. You

932
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 3: want a situation where the defense can never catch a

933
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 3: break because they don't know exactly what you're doing. It

934
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 3: sounds monotonous, but it's it matters, it really does. Doing

935
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 3: those little things right again, it adds up. It's not

936
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 3: by accident. When you have success, especially at the quarterback position,

937
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 3: you have to study. You have to go through your technique,

938
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 3: work on your art form, from your cadence at the

939
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 3: line of scrimmage to how you do your run fakes

940
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 3: and how you do your play action pass and how

941
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 3: you roll out. All those things matter, man. So to

942
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 3: see the Sean taking that seriously into heart, of course,

943
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 3: that's gonna have huge dividends for his game because he

944
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,919
Speaker 3: already has the physical attributes to get the job done.

945
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 3: And I'll add one more thing about the Sean that

946
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 3: I saw today once again post practice, working on his drops,

947
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 3: working on his technique, far as getting his hips turned

948
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 3: and having that ability to throw into a football with power.

949
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 3: Doing those extra things is gonna make a world of difference.

950
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:36,919
Speaker 3: And when you're like the one of the last guys

951
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,919
Speaker 3: that leave the football field, yep, it matters. Once again.

952
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 3: The message that you're sending.

953
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you're the highest paid guy on the team,

954
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 2: when you are the franchise and you're putting in work,

955
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 2: there's absolutely no excuse for anybody else not to.

956
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 3: And how many times have you heard me harper about

957
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 3: the idea that the highest paid guys need to be

958
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,439
Speaker 3: the hardest working guys. Yep, you saw example today where

959
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 3: the highest paid guys or the last guys on the

960
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 3: football field. And that's that's a general manager and head

961
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 3: coach's dream, it most certainly is.

962
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 2: And that's what you wanted to see here, all right.

963
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 2: So in our receiver room right now, we know amar,

964
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 2: we know Elija, we know DPJ. We don't yet know

965
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,959
Speaker 2: the status of Marquise Goodwin. Based on what you've seen

966
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,919
Speaker 2: right now, who would you say has been the best

967
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 2: receiver after the big three?

968
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 7: Who man.

969
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 3: Man Baldwin has had. He had a really nice catch

970
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 3: today too for the sewan, right, and that toald about

971
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 3: that window being pretty much slammed shut and found a

972
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 3: way to get the ball in there, and he thought

973
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 3: that pass and it looked seamless. He's I've he's I've

974
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 3: noticed him. But I must say Darden made a huge

975
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 3: jump today. Yeah, I mean he was just dominant. Let's

976
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 3: go just call for what is worth. In one on

977
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 3: ones he was dominant. Oh yeah, and in seven o

978
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 3: seven he was dominating team period in which they had

979
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 3: he was dominant. So I have to say right now, Darden.

980
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got the tools, he's got the speed. That'll

981
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:55,760
Speaker 2: be interesting.

982
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 3: See.

983
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 2: I Thinkdalen Baldom, to your point, has been very impressive.

984
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 2: And I'll give Mike Cartley Junior. I think he's been

985
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 2: pren so. Cedric Tillman center. Tillman has made caught touchdowns

986
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,479
Speaker 2: in the red zone drills both days.

987
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 3: He's probably the only person in Baldwin Darwin. I bet,

988
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:12,919
Speaker 3: I mean Baldwin sixteen sixteen's darted. Baldwin's eighty seven, the Baker,

989
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 3: I'm sixteen.

990
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Barney Darden, Darton, Yeah, yeah, Darten's been flying around Tilman.

991
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 2: I like, as well, let's flip it around to the

992
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 2: defensive side. So we know our top three corners. I

993
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 2: think it's pretty cemented. Aj Green is number four. Has

994
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 2: anybody else stood out to you at the corner position?

995
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 3: Bo Pete, Yeah, great size Mayson plays and I watched

996
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 3: him today. Ball wasn't really thrown his way. So you

997
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 3: can't do anything about that, but probably that's a sign

998
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 3: he's doing his job as well. So that's really up

999
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,439
Speaker 3: in the air right there. Yeah, that fifth and sixth corner.

1000
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 3: Imagine they're gonna keep six.

1001
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 2: I think Ford will probably be on there for his

1002
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,240
Speaker 2: special teams prouts. But then I do think there truly

1003
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 2: is one spot completely up for grounds there in that

1004
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 2: safety room that have you noticed anything from the young guys,

1005
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 2: think we know exactly what we're getting in wan Thornhill,

1006
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 2: Delpit and McLeod. But you got the Anthony Bell, you

1007
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 2: got Ronnie Hickman from Ohio State, you got McAllister working

1008
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 2: back there, Bubba Bolden, guys competing to try to be

1009
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,240
Speaker 2: because I think that fourth safety spot I open for grabs.

1010
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 2: Yeah at the Anthony Bell, the leader in the clubhouse.

1011
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,479
Speaker 3: Right Bell has not done anything wrong. He's done nothing

1012
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 3: but to help himself. And that's really what you want,

1013
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 3: a situation where you're not making mistakes. McCallister has registered

1014
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 3: for me on a couple of drills in seven h

1015
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 3: seven's in which I took note of him, and I

1016
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 3: also just like the way he works, and I've been

1017
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 3: watching his backpell and his brakes and his releases and

1018
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 3: things of that data. So he looks smooth out there,

1019
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 3: but I can't really say none of those guys have

1020
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 3: separated themselves.

1021
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, i'd agree, and look, they're gonna get chances because

1022
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 2: that's a part of the defense that you want one

1023
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 2: of two things, right, impact plays and then not to

1024
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 2: really get noticed because typically if the safety is getting

1025
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 2: noticed on a negative light, it's because they blew a coverage,

1026
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 2: they took the cheese, came down on a dig and

1027
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 2: let a post get in behind him. You don't want

1028
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: your name called much unless it's making plays exactly. So

1029
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 2: hopefully those guys will be able to do that all right.

1030
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 2: Speaking of that safety room, jan Thorne Hill, one of

1031
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 2: the Brown's big free agent signings this year, comes to

1032
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 2: the team a multi time Super Bowl champion. He's right

1033
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 2: there with Jerrod in fact, as a member of the

1034
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs, he now a member of the Cleveland Browns.

1035
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 2: Our exclusive interview with him right after today's practice is

1036
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 2: coming up next here on Cleveland Browns Daily on eight

1037
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1038
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,920
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1039
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: in West Virginia, This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to

1040
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,319
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1041
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,120
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1042
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:41,560
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1043
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,000
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1044
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1045
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Speaker 3: Time now for Wan.

1046
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 2: Thornhill to join the show here from the Greenbrier. Wan,

1047
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 2: great to see you, man. How are you doing.

1048
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 3: How's this whole experience been for you here at the Greenbrier, A.

1049
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 10: Man, has been truly amazing, you know, just being able

1050
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 10: to come out here and have a great scenery, finally

1051
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 10: get to practice with my teammates and get ready for

1052
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 10: the season. So I'm super excited about everything and I'm

1053
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 10: having a.

1054
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 3: Lot of fun.

1055
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 2: Did you ever do anything like this with the Chiefs?

1056
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 10: I wouldn't say that. We well, we went to a

1057
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 10: place called Saint Joseph, Missouri. That's more like a real

1058
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 10: camp environment. You know, like you go off to a college,

1059
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 10: you stay in the dorm room, so it's like you're

1060
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 10: really just like strictly football. I mean, yeah, you're strictly

1061
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 10: football here, but you have the chance to go back

1062
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 10: to a five star resort and sleep in a nice bed,

1063
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 10: a nice room, so I can't complain about this at all.

1064
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this experiences been good. Yesterday you guys had

1065
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 2: that day off. What did you get to do there

1066
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 2: to kind of decompress a little bit, get your body right,

1067
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 2: get your mind right, to come back out here and

1068
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:39,760
Speaker 2: have another great day of practice.

1069
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 10: I mean, you know when you get that all day,

1070
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 10: you try to take advantage of it. Kick your feet up,

1071
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 10: just lay down in bed, stretch a little bit. And

1072
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 10: I also got a chance to go to dinner with

1073
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 10: my wife, so great.

1074
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 11: Yeah, that was great.

1075
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 10: So she drove down from Cleveland just to hang out

1076
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 10: with me. You know, when you go to camp sometimes

1077
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 10: you start to miss the ones that you love. So absolutely,

1078
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 10: but yeah, she drove down and I had a lot

1079
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 10: of fun and hanging out.

1080
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Speaker 2: All right, So talk to me about as somebody who's

1081
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 2: been on a Super Bowl team. You've been with the Chiefs,

1082
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 2: You've had to go into practice against great quarterback like

1083
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes. Let's start on a team standpoint. You know

1084
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 2: what it takes to win a Super Bowl. What do

1085
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 2: you see from the talent that you've seen so far?

1086
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 2: We're two days and Pat's come on tomorrow. We'll talk

1087
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 2: about that, But what have you seen just from the

1088
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 2: talent around you? How confident are you that this team

1089
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 2: does have what it takes.

1090
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 10: I haven't had the opportunity to tell my teammates this yet,

1091
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 10: but I mean I've been a part of three Super Bowls,

1092
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 10: you know, and those.

1093
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 2: Teams have only gone to the AFC Championship Game or

1094
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl.

1095
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 10: Yes, exactly, I haven't had anything less. And I don't

1096
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 10: plan on stopping, you know, I plan on keeping that

1097
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 10: street going. But I haven't told my teammates that. But

1098
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 10: I've been a part of three Super Bowls, and I

1099
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 10: feel like just looking like piece to piece and like

1100
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 10: all my teammates here, I feel like this is definitely

1101
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 10: one of the most talented football teams that I've been

1102
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:50,919
Speaker 10: a part of, Like if you really look at each

1103
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 10: individual position, like we have dogs everywhere and it's unbelievable.

1104
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 10: And I'm just super excited to get out there and

1105
00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 10: so they can see it. Like I don't know if

1106
00:48:59,440 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 10: they believe it.

1107
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 3: But I do.

1108
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 11: Like they got they got they got it.

1109
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 2: This is music to all of our ears. Obviously one

1110
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 2: it is. Now you've had the privilege and probably it's

1111
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 2: sometimes the frustration We're going against Patrick Mahomes every day

1112
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 2: in practice, and now you get Deshaun Watson. What have

1113
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 2: you seen from DeShawn as a guy that's gonna keep

1114
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 2: you defensively right on your toes and get you prepared

1115
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 2: for Sundays.

1116
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 10: I mean, you know, everybody talk about Pat pattis Patt

1117
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 10: like they know that he's a heck old quarterback.

1118
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 11: Then me getting here playing against the Shawn.

1119
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 10: Is just like, I see the same exact thing like him,

1120
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 10: Deshaun and Patt is pretty much the same. And I

1121
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 10: didn't know that DeShawn had this in his game, but

1122
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 10: he hit us with a couple of no look passes

1123
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 10: and he shocked me with that. So he's definitely adding

1124
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 10: a lot to his game. And he has all the

1125
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 10: physical traits to be that great quarterback. And I believe

1126
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 10: in him and I think he's gonna show all of

1127
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 10: the dog Pound what he's about.

1128
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 3: All right.

1129
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 2: So we've had really two practices Tuesday day off and

1130
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 2: then today Tuesday, it felt like you guys had a

1131
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 2: very nice day defensively, especially down there in the red zone.

1132
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 2: What was kind of the tone in the meetings afterwards

1133
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 2: as you kind of watched that film.

1134
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 10: I mean, it feels good when you're making play, as

1135
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 10: you know. One thing we take pride in is the

1136
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:04,760
Speaker 10: red zone. I mean, I know, if you make plays

1137
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 10: in the field, that's great, but once you get down

1138
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 10: there to the red zone, that's the opportunity to take

1139
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 10: away points. And that's what we take pride in they

1140
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 10: get down there in that red zone. We don't want

1141
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 10: them to step in there at all. Like, if you

1142
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 10: can stop them to three, that's a win, Like that's

1143
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 10: a big time winning. Yeah, four point win, that's huge.

1144
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,399
Speaker 10: So we take pride in that, and we don't want

1145
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 10: them to get in the end zone. So that's what

1146
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 10: we're gonna continue to do.

1147
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 2: It feels like this group, it's your first year here,

1148
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 2: but I've obviously seen our defense and a lot of

1149
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 2: the guys that have been here been here for a

1150
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 2: few years. It feels like under Jim Schwartz, we're seeing

1151
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 2: a lot more personality, a lot more fire, a lot

1152
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:37,240
Speaker 2: more talking. Are you guys kind of emulating your defensive

1153
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 2: corner of there? Is he kind of giving you the freedom,

1154
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 2: like just go out there, be yourselves and make place.

1155
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 10: See one thing he started off day one talking about

1156
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 10: was one thing we're gonna lead this league in is swaged.

1157
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:47,959
Speaker 10: You know, if you got swag, you gonna you're gonna

1158
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 10: play well. So I mean it shows every single day,

1159
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 10: like if even if somebody's down, you have your guy

1160
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 10: next to you that's gonna lift you up and he's

1161
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 10: gonna show some swag. So if you got it, I

1162
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 10: mean you just gonna continue to bring that every single day.

1163
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that you're facing it up that one

1164
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 2: because it's gotta be fun, right, This is very much

1165
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 2: a job. This is very serious business. You know the

1166
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 2: stakes you've been at the very highest level the sport

1167
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 2: has to offer. But it is fun as well, and

1168
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 2: it's fun to play well. Now in Kansas City, you

1169
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 2: and I were talking earlier. You said, yeah, we had

1170
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 2: a lot of back and forth. So Tuesday defense really

1171
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 2: had a strong day today in the field portion though,

1172
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 2: DeShawn came back and he was on and then when

1173
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 2: we got back the red zone, you guys clamped up.

1174
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 2: M Jamerson getting nice interception there as well. But do

1175
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 2: you kind of like that back and forth and how

1176
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 2: does that help you guys progress and develop getting that

1177
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 2: good work and knowing that runs out here dominating every

1178
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 2: day both sides are having to go a little give

1179
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 2: and take.

1180
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 11: I mean, you don't want just one side of the

1181
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 11: ball winning each and you're gonna win.

1182
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 3: You don't want that.

1183
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 10: That means you you're strong on one side of the

1184
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 10: ball and you need work on the other. And when

1185
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 10: you have guys coming out here competing every day, offense

1186
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 10: winning one day, defense winning another, meaning that means both

1187
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 10: sides of the ball, it's pretty solid. Like you said,

1188
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 10: Deshaun was, I'm gonna be honest. He was kind of

1189
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 10: lighting us up out there in the field today. But

1190
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 10: the good thing is my defense held up. We like

1191
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 10: I said, we took pride in that and that is

1192
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 10: on and we stepped up and made a lot of

1193
00:51:59,239 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 10: plays down there.

1194
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 2: After MJ gets that pick, it's a full on sprint

1195
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 2: out of here. Is that that's one of That's the celebration.

1196
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 3: I like that.

1197
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 2: You guys get fired up. Finish every play. Kept hearing

1198
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 2: that today. Finish every play, Finish every play, get up

1199
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 2: and score.

1200
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 10: Yeah, when you get that ball, you I mean, the

1201
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 10: goal is to score. You don't want to just catch

1202
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 10: an anterception and just fall down. You know, he fell

1203
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 10: down and got up and still ran the other way,

1204
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 10: didn't nobody touch him. So if you could put up

1205
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 10: points on defense and help the offense, that's gonna be amazing.

1206
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 11: So I'm excited about that.

1207
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 10: And I think we're gonna get a lot of turnovers

1208
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 10: and touchdowns this year today.

1209
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 2: One on ones I don't know about from a player standpoint,

1210
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 2: but from a fans stampoint, I love watching one on ones.

1211
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, in training camp, and it's really the only

1212
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 3: time we can to see it.

1213
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 2: I think there'd be a great Pro Bowl game when

1214
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 2: everybody gets to the Pro Bowl where they do Pro

1215
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 2: Bowl one on ones. I'd pay to watch that. But

1216
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 2: do you like doing those one on ones? And and

1217
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 2: was that fun to kind of get that for the

1218
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:44,479
Speaker 2: first time here today?

1219
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 10: I mean it's mono y mono, you know, so like

1220
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 10: I mean, he's gonna show. It's just gonna show. All

1221
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 10: your technique is the is the receiver of tight end

1222
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 10: versus the dbs, you know, so you don't have any help.

1223
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,439
Speaker 11: But they say it's a it's a it's a receiver's drill.

1224
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 3: I mean the quarterback they know where they're going, so the.

1225
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 10: Quarterback has all day to throw the football or receivers

1226
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 10: know exactly where you're going, where they're going, and you

1227
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 10: don't have any help. So it's just gonna make us better,

1228
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 10: you know, competing against those guys with no help.

1229
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 11: Just winning your leverage.

1230
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 10: I mean, if they catch the ball across the middle,

1231
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 10: you know you're outside leverage and you're tight. I mean,

1232
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 10: it ain't no, ain't no big deal because you know

1233
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 10: you got linebackers in there to help. But I feel like,

1234
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 10: like you said, I feel like they need to add

1235
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 10: those one on ones to that, to that Pro Bowl.

1236
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 11: It would be fun that out of show who really

1237
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 11: belong in that Pro Bowl game?

1238
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 3: You know.

1239
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 2: And the good news for the defensive guys is, like

1240
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 2: like you said, it is an offensive drill. It is

1241
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 2: slanted in their favorite Then when you do make a play,

1242
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 2: that's a license to let them know.

1243
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 10: That means you did perfect. You have perfect coverage, your

1244
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 10: footwork was perfect, everything. If you knocked the ball down

1245
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 10: and then you win, obviously you got it all right.

1246
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 3: Pads coming on tomorrow, what does that mean to you?

1247
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 10: It means everything, because you know, some guys they can

1248
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 10: practice very well without the pads on, but when those

1249
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 10: pads come on, guys, some guys fold up and it's

1250
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 10: just it shows who they are as a player.

1251
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 11: I means, so it's gonna show.

1252
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 10: It's really gonna show tomorrow, like when those pas come on,

1253
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 10: because guys get scared. Sometimes some guys play a lot

1254
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 10: better when those pasts come on. So I'm excited for it.

1255
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 3: I know you are.

1256
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 2: Let's take us into that safety room. You know, this

1257
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 2: is your first year here, Grant's been here for a while.

1258
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 2: Rodney McLeod his first year as well. How's that communication,

1259
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 2: because we know that's so key on the back end, right,

1260
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 2: that communication you guys see in the field through the

1261
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 2: same set of eyes.

1262
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 3: How has that been with Grant with Rodney so far?

1263
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 11: I mean, it's been great.

1264
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 10: Rodney he's been a part of this scheme before. He

1265
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 10: played with Coach Schwartz many years ago, so he knows

1266
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 10: what he's doing. He's bringing all the all the key

1267
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 10: details to us, like he's helping me and coach he

1268
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 10: learn and Grant as well. But Grant he's doing a

1269
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 10: heck of his job as well. Like we're learning together.

1270
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 10: You're gonna have some learning curves. But I think they're

1271
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 10: doing a heck of a job like communicating and Coach Swartz.

1272
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 10: He said that we have to be like the nerve

1273
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 10: center of the defense, Like we have to keep everyone calm.

1274
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 10: You know, some people get worked up, but we have

1275
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 10: to be those guys that's gonna communicate and calm everybody down.

1276
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 2: You feel like you got to play making group back there,

1277
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 2: Like you guys are gonna get your hands on the

1278
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:57,399
Speaker 2: ball quite a bit.

1279
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 3: This year, no question.

1280
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 10: Like don't be shocked when you say a lot of

1281
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:01,479
Speaker 10: interceptions coming out.

1282
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 3: With good We all want that.

1283
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 2: So all right, two more days here in pads Friday Saturday,

1284
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 2: then a little walk through and we head back. Then

1285
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 2: you get to have your first training camp in front

1286
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 2: of the dog Pound on Tuesday. I know you guys

1287
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 2: have had a great time here. There's been great bonding,

1288
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 2: good work. How excited are you though to get back

1289
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 2: to Bria, get in front of the Browns fans for

1290
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 2: the first time and really kind of get this and

1291
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 2: go because, by the way, probably not for you, but

1292
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,720
Speaker 2: there's a game one week from today.

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Speaker 11: I know I'm super excited to get back, you know.

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Speaker 10: I mean, I've heard a lot about the Dog Found

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Speaker 10: I haven't really been able to experience it too much.

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Speaker 11: I had I was at a greg softball game.

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Speaker 10: You know, they had a couple fans out there, and

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Speaker 10: I mean they seem pretty pumped up. So it makes

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Speaker 10: me super excited to get back and practice in front

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Speaker 10: of them. Hope they bring a lot of energy. That's

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Speaker 10: one thing that I thrive off of. When they make

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Speaker 10: a lot of noise their practice. We're gonna make a

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Speaker 10: lot of plays and we'd like to have fun out there,

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Speaker 10: so I'm excited to play in front of them.

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Speaker 3: Wan, thanks so much for your time.

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Speaker 2: Nathan's go along with Gerrod Cherry. All right, Drod, let's

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Speaker 2: just start with it right there, Wan Thornhill, Is this

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Speaker 2: a guy who has seen it at the highest level?

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Speaker 2: Most certainly in recent times. He said, I've only gone

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Speaker 2: to the AFC Championship game or super Bowls. He's won

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Speaker 2: super Bowls. What did you make a kind of his

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Speaker 2: comments about this roster about our quarterback Deshaun Watson.

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Speaker 3: Love thing about it and what it represents, because when

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Speaker 3: you have actually been in that environment, you know what

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Speaker 3: it's required of you. You paid the price, You've done

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Speaker 3: the things necessary as an individual, and you've seen it

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Speaker 3: as a collective on how to make it to the

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Speaker 3: super Bowl or how to make it to an AFC

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Speaker 3: Championship and you've actually know what it takes. And I'm

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Speaker 3: seen in the process of winning a super Bowl. And

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Speaker 3: you can then come out here in this football field,

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Speaker 3: observe your teammates, observe the environment, observe the talent. You

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Speaker 3: know real and you know talent when you see it.

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Speaker 3: So you take that the heart what he had to say,

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Speaker 3: and I didn't. It didn't come off to be like

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00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 3: he was just trying to say good teammate things for

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Speaker 3: the sake of saying it. I felt he was sincere

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Speaker 3: int it. Now, obviously talent is not enough. Guy's gonna

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Speaker 3: have to keep putting in the work. I can't say

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Speaker 3: that enough talent is not gonna just get you there.

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Speaker 3: I've seen guys that are talented get beat by less

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00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 3: talented teams because they wanted more. So it really comes

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Speaker 3: down to the next step, which is the hunger. Do

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Speaker 3: you have that hunger? Do you have that grip that grind?

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Speaker 3: Do you have Once you do start experienced success, guys

1345
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 3: in the locker room are gonna hold each other, callutable

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00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 3: to tell you, hey, we can't take our foot off

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00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 3: the gas. We gotta keep pressing, we gotta keep moving.

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Speaker 3: It's no time to slow down. And it all starts

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Speaker 3: here before what he had to say about the Sean

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00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 3: skill set. We watched it, we witness it, and so

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Speaker 3: many people are like, well, is he gonna be able

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Speaker 3: to return to form? Yes, he's gonna be a return

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00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 3: of form. We see it right now. Yes, I mean

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Speaker 3: the Shaun Watson that you're watching on the football field

1355
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Speaker 3: right now is leaps and bounds better than one that

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Speaker 3: took the field week twelve. It's so evident. Yes, So

1357
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 3: that right there, you're in a better spot with your

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Speaker 3: quarterback situation. And then going back to what Wan had

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Speaker 3: to say about the team itself, you do have dogs

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Speaker 3: in every position, and you have guys who are hungry

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Speaker 3: at every position. You need those type of things. And

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Speaker 3: what I'm starting to see more so than anything, is

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Speaker 3: the fact that guys are enjoying each other's company. Yes,

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Speaker 3: and going out there to do something with a purpose.

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Speaker 3: That's the next step. It's so many different building blocks

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Speaker 3: into it. But Wan has been there and he's done it.

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Speaker 3: He's seen it. So what he has to say when

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Speaker 3: he does speak to it, it's gonna carry weight because

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Speaker 3: he knows what it actually looks like and feels.

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Speaker 2: Like, Yes, he's got some know you got him, you

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Speaker 2: got Jim Schwartz, you got Rodney McLoud, you got people

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Speaker 2: who have been to the mountaintop in this league and

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Speaker 2: now all here a part of the leveland Browns and

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Speaker 2: obviously the Dariy Smith was on and they didn't win

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Speaker 2: a Super Bowl. Was on a bunch of very very

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Speaker 2: good Green Bay Packers teams, and it was with the

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Speaker 2: Ravens prior to that. So yes, I think I like

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Speaker 2: that part of it. Now, my question for you is

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Speaker 2: did Bill Belichick? Would he dies he even know what

1380
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Speaker 2: swaggy means? He wasn't about no swag so he wasn't

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Speaker 2: he were meetings where he's telling you to be the swag.

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Speaker 2: You know, that'd be the last if he'd tell you.

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Speaker 3: He tell you be the smart place, smart, fast and

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Speaker 3: tough football was what he'd tell you. So it wasn't

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Speaker 3: about swag. But there's something to be said about swag,

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Speaker 3: and because ultimately we did have it. Of course, he's

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Speaker 3: just that that wasn't what he was expressing. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: you want to have you want to have swag and

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Speaker 3: you want to back it up. And in this day

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Speaker 3: and age of football, yeah, I want guys to be

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Speaker 3: have bravado and boast about what they're gonna do and

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Speaker 3: then go out there and back it up. Nothing wrong

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Speaker 3: with that. That makes the game more entertaining, That forces

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Speaker 3: you to back up what you have to say and

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Speaker 3: not go out there and get victimized. But hey, I'm

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Speaker 3: about to go out here and back on what I'm

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Speaker 3: talking about and let this team know that I'm going

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Speaker 3: to come out here, and you said on this football field,

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Speaker 3: be prepared to get embarrassed. Nothing wrong with that. So, yes,

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Speaker 3: half swag, because guess what we've been missing. We've been

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Speaker 3: missing swag.

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Speaker 2: And I also think when you have like a little

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Speaker 2: bit of swagger confidence to yourself if it is genuine

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Speaker 2: and you truly believe in your ability to back it up.

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Speaker 2: And I think we have plenty of guys on this

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Speaker 2: team that certainly feel that way. You don't shy away

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Speaker 2: from the big moments. No, you're not out there as

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Speaker 2: a dB saying I hope they throw it.

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Speaker 3: I hope they don't. Hope they don't throw it at

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Speaker 3: my guy.

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Speaker 2: I hope they throw the other You say, bring it here, MANA.

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Speaker 3: You can make you want it. You want it right.

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Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson wants the ball. Everybody on our team wants

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Speaker 2: the ball, wants to come in their way. And I

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Speaker 2: think that's how you get to be pretty good.

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Speaker 2: we go around the NFL girodd A lot of money

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Speaker 2: was handed out yesterday. We had a day off. People

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Speaker 2: handing out money did not have a day off. Justin

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Speaker 2: Herbert five year extension from the Chargers worth two hundred

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Speaker 2: and sixty two million dollars. My question to you is

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Speaker 2: what does this mean for the quarterback market? And more importantly,

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Speaker 2: I think from a Brown standpoint for Joe Burrow, well,

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Speaker 2: Joe has.

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Speaker 3: A benchmark where he can start from. That's for sure.

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Speaker 3: Now the question is is Joe gonna do things necessary

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Speaker 3: to keep T. Higgins in place and to be able

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Speaker 3: to compensate Jamar Chase the following season. So that's gonna

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Speaker 3: be on the mindset of Joe. How he's gonna control

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Speaker 3: now that based upon what he takes, and if he's

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Speaker 3: gonna try to keep T. Higgins in place, he's gonna

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Speaker 3: have to look at least what thirty forty million dollars

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Speaker 3: discount because that money has to go to Higgins.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think they're in. I think it's gonna

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Speaker 2: be very difficult.

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Speaker 3: Could they do it?

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01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 2: Of course they can, they would cause it, they'd have

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01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 2: to sacrifice something else. But I think when you have

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01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 2: really the three guys at quarterback, two wide receivers, it's

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Speaker 2: hard to pay them all.

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Speaker 4: I almost think that you have to. Everybody's got to

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Speaker 4: sign for a shorter deal.

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Speaker 2: Like they can do it, but it would take I

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01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 2: think all of them on some level taking a little

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Speaker 2: bit of a discount. And if t Higgins really believes

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01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 2: he's a number one receiver, no discount. You're not taking

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Speaker 2: a discount, and you only have so long to play

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01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 2: this game. Quarterbacks have a lot more like jevits receivers can.

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Speaker 2: But when you have an opportunity in the National Football League,

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Speaker 2: and I would say it's to any player hometown discounts,

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Speaker 2: they sound great. You've gotta this is a business, and

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Speaker 2: the teams and you know it around the league, they

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01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 2: will move on from you as soon as they think

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Speaker 2: they can replace you. I think the players have to

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Speaker 2: get maximize their value when they can. Now a quarterback can.

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Speaker 2: A quarterback is the one where they can say, because

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Speaker 2: of the nature of the National Football because the nature

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Speaker 2: of their position, they could say, I'm gonna give up

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Speaker 2: a little bit in salary here because and to allow

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Speaker 2: myself to our team to get another piece or so

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Speaker 2: because I know I can make that up in endorsements.

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Speaker 2: I can make that up elsewhere, right, And there are

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Speaker 2: some receivers that are probably capable of doing that too.

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Speaker 3: But unless you're a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: You do not want to make a habit of, you know,

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Speaker 2: shrinking the pie that you have an opportunity to get.

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Speaker 3: Right, because if you're about legacy in your quarterback and

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01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 3: it's not just about the money, you're gonna make moves

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01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 3: like Brady did far as taking less and saying that, hey,

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01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 3: I can feel the better football team. In the process

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Speaker 3: of feeling a better football team, my value and my

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01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 3: legacy and all those teams intertwined with it will increase

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Speaker 3: in greater value. And Burrow is in that spot because

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Speaker 3: when you think about it, he's already and he's he's

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01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 3: he's on a Hall of Fame career path and in

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Speaker 3: three years that he's been in the league going on four,

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Speaker 3: now look what he's done. Yep. So if he actually

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01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 3: adds a Super Bowl the next year or two, then

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Speaker 3: he's really submitted himself far as being on that track.

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Speaker 3: But I would also caution him with this, and he

1489
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Speaker 3: has to know this, and I know he knows this

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Speaker 3: because his dad was a defensive coordinator and a great

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Speaker 3: family Borough family. You're in a position as a quarterback

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Speaker 3: where you're dependent upon everybody doing their job. Yep. You

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01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 3: never do it alone. I know we talked at nauseum

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Speaker 3: about the quarterback position and how important they are, but

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Speaker 3: they never do it alone. They need help, They need assistance.

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Speaker 3: So if it breaks down one place because you took

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Speaker 3: the line's share of the money, is that gonna impact

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Speaker 3: your office a line? Okay, and say it doesn't, say

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Speaker 3: they still protect you. Oh, all of a sudden, we're

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Speaker 3: short on defense and we never get the ball back,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: And that's why you gotta have challenge. You gotta draft

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01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 2: your butt off, and you gotta have succession planning in

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01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 2: place that where you can use guys on rookie deals

1505
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 2: to fill in for maybe more expensive veterans over the

1506
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 2: course of a couple of years.

1507
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 4: And I feel like the Bengals at one point did

1508
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 4: that under Marvin Lewis. What was it they only had

1509
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 4: like they never resigned any of their own guys, correct,

1510
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 4: but everybody were players like they had.

1511
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 3: They did a good job with that. Yeah. Yeah, that

1512
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 3: problem with their issue was discipline. Yeah yeah, Well their

1513
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 3: issue Yeah, it certainly was.

1514
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 2: Andrew Thomas got extended by the Giants a record setting

1515
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 2: deal for the young left tackle one hundred and seventeen

1516
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 2: point five million over five years, sixty seven million guaranteed.

1517
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was like a top four tackle on the league.

1518
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 3: Think about that. That is so problematic. That's right on

1519
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 3: the heels of you telling Sakwon Barkley he's only worth

1520
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 3: eleven million dollars. That I don't make. I mean, it's

1521
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:35,439
Speaker 3: very bold of the Giants to do that. I don't

1522
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 3: make that move because right now, in that atmosphere, in

1523
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 3: that locker room, it's all about money. It's not about

1524
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 3: a team. It's about money. The conversation that's permeating on

1525
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 3: those guys' minds right now is about money. They totally

1526
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 3: mismanaged hond Is, you don't your best player. You don't

1527
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 3: and we understand the whole running back dynamic and that

1528
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 3: has lost its value. But on the heels of that discussion,

1529
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 3: you do not break break the bank to pay so

1530
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 3: some one else, even though it is a left tackle.

1531
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 3: It's just a bad move because again you insulted Barkley,

1532
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 3: and now other guys are like man because I'm feeling

1533
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 3: as a former player, I tell you that's what I'm thinking.

1534
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 3: And now if you made the conversation now about going

1535
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 3: out there and win. So when Brian Dabo stands up

1536
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 3: there in front of the team, we gotta go out

1537
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 3: there as a family, we gotta go out there and

1538
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 3: get the job done. What do you think guys are

1539
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 3: thinking about?

1540
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 4: That's fine. Am I getting paid? Am I getting compensated accordingly?

1541
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 3: And that's always potentially a part of the conversation. What

1542
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 3: you don't want to have take place is that be

1543
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 3: on the forefront of guys' minds, because it's always somewhere

1544
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 3: in the background. But when you handle it the way

1545
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 3: that they handle it, it becomes the forefront conversation. And

1546
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 3: probably what guys are talking about during breaks and during

1547
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 3: the at night when they're going back to their dorm

1548
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 3: rooms or wherever how they hound their I think they stay.

1549
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 3: They stay in East Rutherford, so they're going probably back

1550
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 3: to their homes. But it's a bad, in my opinion,

1551
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 3: a bad way of doing it.

1552
01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 2: The Giants would probably say, we had an opportunity to

1553
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 2: lock in our quarterback and our left tackle and have

1554
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 2: them together protecting the blind side and this is what

1555
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 2: we wanted to do, and that reality unfortunate reality is

1556
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 2: and I think that people around the league see it

1557
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 2: was what the deal is with a running back. And

1558
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 2: for Sakwon Barkley, this will be making what ten to

1559
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 2: eleven million dollars. While it doesn't seem like a lot

1560
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 2: relative to some other positions, he's getting compensated very well.

1561
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 4: For running He's one of the top five paid running

1562
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 4: backs in the NFL.

1563
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 2: It's just it's just a different thing. So they've locked in.

1564
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 2: But if what I was taking away from this is

1565
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 2: he was picked six picks before Jedik c Wools. He

1566
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 2: was fourth over on that draft. Jed Wills was ten.

1567
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 2: The runs are nowhere near even contemplating handing a contract

1568
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 2: like that to Jedrick Wills at this time. And I

1569
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 2: think hopefully for him, you're gonna find out that because

1570
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 2: what's what motivates him, Does anything motivate him to truly

1571
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:51,919
Speaker 2: capitalize on all of his gifts and and maybe seeing

1572
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 2: something like that because if he does want to get

1573
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 2: paid a lot of money. If jed Wills comes down

1574
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 2: in balls this year and is one of the most

1575
01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 2: dominant left tackles in the NFL.

1576
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 3: He will get paid well, he can't ask for a

1577
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 3: better situation. No, the fact that you get the practice

1578
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 3: against Miles Garrett on a daily basis, Thank you.

1579
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 2: Ian Zonarius, and you were next to Joel Botonio, who

1580
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 2: could be going to the Hall of Fame. I mean,

1581
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 2: it is a good situation. But I think, you know,

1582
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 2: the question really becomes, you know, he's got to see

1583
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 2: that that's his rookie class. If he was the best

1584
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:18,680
Speaker 2: tackle coming out of that class and one of the

1585
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 2: best tackles in the league, that's maybe him signing that contract.

1586
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 2: So hopefully that's something that will We'll get Jedrick Wills's

1587
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 2: attention and we can hopefully get the best out of

1588
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 2: him this season. Trevon digs the corner from the Cowboys

1589
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 2: ninety seven million on five year deal from Dallas.

1590
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 3: No surprise there.

1591
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 2: He's been, you know, a ballhawk a couple of years ago,

1592
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 2: led the league in interceptions. Very good player again and

1593
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 2: a premium position. Yes, he is a gambler. He will

1594
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 2: get beat. Last year was not as good as two

1595
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:47,599
Speaker 2: years ago, but the Cowboys obviously like what they've seen

1596
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 2: from him, and like again again at a premium position.

1597
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 3: There at the cornerback spot.

1598
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 4: One thing we didn't get to yesterday obviously with being

1599
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 4: off Aaron Rodgers yep taking a major pay cut on

1600
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 4: his new deal, according to Pelis. Actually this was according

1601
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 4: to Schefter, Aaron Rodgers voluntarily took a thirty five million

1602
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:12,599
Speaker 4: dollar pay cut on his two year deal. This will

1603
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 4: allow the Jets to acquire more talent than they would

1604
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:17,639
Speaker 4: have under the contract they assumed from Green Bay in April.

1605
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:19,679
Speaker 3: Dalvin Cook visited the building today.

1606
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 4: Yes, exactly thirty five million dollars pay cut.

1607
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 2: So Albert Breer went through it and said a couple

1608
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,600
Speaker 2: of a couple of things. He said, I want to

1609
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 2: take a look at the filed contract. It is what

1610
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 2: it said to be a real pay cut, thirty five

1611
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 2: million to sign one point eight three to nine base

1612
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:40,840
Speaker 2: million for twenty three thirty eight point one six million

1613
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 2: and twenty twenty four, fully.

1614
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:45,120
Speaker 3: Guaranteed, no trade, no tag provisions.

1615
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 2: Team will also have the option in twenty twenty four

1616
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 2: to convert thirty five million of the bonus of the

1617
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 2: thirty eight million into a bonus which then would pro

1618
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 2: rate over four additional dummy years on the contract and

1619
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 2: drop his base salary to three million for that season.

1620
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 2: The one benefit here for Rogers, and that is beyond

1621
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 2: the no tag no trade clauses. The forty nine million

1622
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:03,560
Speaker 2: he was set to earn for twenty twenty four and

1623
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 2: the old deal was guaranteed for injury only invests and

1624
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:09,919
Speaker 2: become fully guaranteed in next February, so his full guaranteed

1625
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 2: number actual guarantees goes up by about fifteen and a

1626
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 2: half million. I mean, he was getting as long as

1627
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 2: he wanted to play football, he was going to get

1628
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 2: that other money anyway. So being a good teammate, he's

1629
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 2: he wants Apparently he wants to win.

1630
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 3: I'm sure.

1631
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 2: I'm sure in Green Vay they're saying, why didn't you

1632
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 2: want to do this for us? You know, the last

1633
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 2: couple of years, maybe we keep DeVante Adams. But here

1634
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 2: he is, and he's going forward. So that is a

1635
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 2: quarterback who's made a lot of money, who at this

1636
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:37,560
Speaker 2: point his concern for his final couple of years in

1637
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 2: the National Football League is much more about legacy than

1638
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:42,880
Speaker 2: it is about money. He's made plenty of money, and

1639
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 2: he probably knows if I win a Super Bowl in

1640
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 2: New York, I'll have opportunities to make plenty of money.

1641
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 3: They'll give him the Mark Messier experience with the Rangers. Yes,

1642
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:56,839
Speaker 3: he can't do no wrong. Exactly right. You are exactly

1643
01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 3: right about that, all right.

1644
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 4: The other thing that I wanted to bring up was

1645
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:05,480
Speaker 4: this whole Sean Payton Nuking is the former coach.

1646
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 2: And Nathaniel Hackey said it basically everything that they did

1647
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 2: last year, we're going to do the opposite of this year.

1648
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 2: Robert sala fighting makes it, but it was one of

1649
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 2: the most incompetent coaching jobs in the history of the NFL.

1650
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 2: And Robert Salah fought back and said, you know, we

1651
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:20,640
Speaker 2: don't even play the until week five. I don't know

1652
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 2: why he's they're worried about us. There are a lot

1653
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 2: of crows pecking at our necks. And they said, he's

1654
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 2: not gonna he's not going to comment on it.

1655
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:29,640
Speaker 3: He was right, though, I mean it was right. He

1656
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:32,640
Speaker 3: was right. I mean what Hackett did was embarrassing, and

1657
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:33,679
Speaker 3: be real.

1658
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 2: I think urban Meyer is probably a little bit offended

1659
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 2: by that that he said Hackett did the worst coaching job,

1660
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:40,799
Speaker 2: Like big.

1661
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 3: Hey, do what I did. I didn't even fly home

1662
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 3: with my team. You know what I want to be

1663
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:47,760
Speaker 3: in Columbus. Yeah, I was at a bar. Oh my god,

1664
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 3: I can't get Could you imagine that?

1665
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 2: Like what would have been like if if you guys

1666
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 2: are flying home from a Patriots game and Bill Belichick

1667
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, I'm not gonna fly home with you guys,

1668
01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 2: and then he was partying at a college bar.

1669
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 3: We had him committed because that's just that just would

1670
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 3: be totally beyond out of character. Yes, And you're probably saying,

1671
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 3: what's the big deal about flying home? Football is mock military,

1672
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 3: and your head coach is your captain, he's your general,

1673
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 3: he's your admiral, and he is supposed to be with

1674
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 3: his troops if you will twenty four to seven, and

1675
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 3: when you go back home and defeat or in victory,

1676
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 3: he's supposed to be on that plane with you flying

1677
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 3: or at least well, in this case, they flew to

1678
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:35,680
Speaker 3: there was a visiting they were the visiting team. He's

1679
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 3: supposed to be there. That's just a protocol for how

1680
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 3: you operate, and it sends a message that hey, I'm

1681
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 3: not a part of you guys when you make a

1682
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 3: move like that, and the whole thing, there's levels too

1683
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 3: great football teams and the biggest thing that you have

1684
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 3: to accomplish is having guys feel that they're part or something.

1685
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 3: And when you make a move like that, you essentially say, no,

1686
01:12:57,080 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 3: I'm an urban meyer. I'm me. You guys are the

1687
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 3: losers over there. I'm separate from this since I'm going

1688
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:06,559
Speaker 3: somewhere where I felt success before, to Columbus of all places,

1689
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 3: and you guys can have at it. That's just like

1690
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 3: the level Absurdy with it is just insane that a

1691
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 3: winning football coach who's has as much success as he

1692
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:18,559
Speaker 3: has had would and should know better.

1693
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:20,760
Speaker 2: Oh, I think it's a little bit different because in

1694
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 2: college you're the czarre, you're the you are the entire

1695
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 2: program in college.

1696
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 3: From that standpoint, yeah, you can pull a guy scholarship

1697
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 3: and kick him to the rocks. Absolutely you can. Yeah,

1698
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:31,680
Speaker 3: obviously cut a guy if you have the power and

1699
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 3: then that relationship with the GM to do something similar.

1700
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 3: But obviously when you have money on the lines, you

1701
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 3: can't make moves like that. But he had a young

1702
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 3: Impressionble Team Nake Dogg and it's like so it was

1703
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 3: almost like he had a college thing going for himself.

1704
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:47,120
Speaker 3: But again, the one thing about football that will expose

1705
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 3: it will expose your true intentions on why you're doing

1706
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 3: what you're doing. It will always do that.

1707
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, you remember on hard Docks when you went up

1708
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 2: to like She's like, man, this is just like all

1709
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 2: football all the time, because yeah, the.

1710
01:13:58,040 --> 01:13:59,600
Speaker 3: NFL, that's exactly what it is.

1711
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 2: Your intentions miss Yes, indeed, Well, Gerrod, our intention is

1712
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 2: to do this again tomorrow. Heard that the next level

1713
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 2: will be coming up at three. He'll be on there

1714
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 2: with them, so that'll be fun. And then when we

1715
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:14,599
Speaker 2: come back, give a we're getting into the mailbag.

1716
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 3: Oh, it's a mail bag.

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Speaker 4: I gotta get one from Bobby right off the best,

1732
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:15,639
Speaker 4: but literally the first one I see. Are you ready

1733
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 4: to leave West Virginia yet? West Virginia has been great?

1734
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 4: I'm on day seven, you're on day six, and we

1735
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 4: have miles to go before we sleep here.

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01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:29,640
Speaker 2: Buddy, if the glorious Miss Kay was not on her

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01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 2: way here right now, I would yes, Yes, I mean,

1738
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:34,679
Speaker 2: I think, Look, it's been wonderful.

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01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 3: It has been a wonderful experience. Uh, it's great. It's along.

1740
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 2: It's always a long time to be away from home.

1741
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 3: And it's not about us.

1742
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 2: It's no, it's not about us, you know, it's about them.

1743
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, And so far from everything I've seen, there was

1744
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 4: a mean or there was a there was a game

1745
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 4: being played yesterday in the lunch room when I went

1746
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 4: in for lunch.

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01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 3: Oh man, who was who was? The names? No names,

1748
01:15:58,600 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 3: no names, huh, but.

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01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:02,679
Speaker 4: There was it was a pretty intense heat. It was heated.

1750
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 4: Everybody was doing stuff. I think one of the either

1751
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 4: the Old line or the D line went to a movie.

1752
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 4: Like there was a lot everybody did something. There's been

1753
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:13,639
Speaker 4: a lot of bonding, yes, which which has been really

1754
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 4: really good. I think for this football team.

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01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 2: We've bonded and sing each other. We like each other more. Yeah,

1756
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 2: you might even be nice to be now. Well that's

1757
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:23,640
Speaker 2: not get carred of way.

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01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 8: I was gonna say, I broke Yeah. Yeah, you and

1759
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 8: I won our match yesterday, did we did?

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01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:32,880
Speaker 3: We did?

1761
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 2: I was trying to think Yellowstone yellowstones into me for

1762
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 2: a little bit of cache.

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01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 4: I don't know if I've seen Yellowstone play that bad

1764
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:44,799
Speaker 4: really Yeah, like he's that was my first experience.

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01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:48,040
Speaker 3: No, he is a he is a much better golfer.

1766
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:50,600
Speaker 2: He did make us one solid par You made a

1767
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:52,599
Speaker 2: solid part that was a big one in our match.

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01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 4: I had a couple of shots here and there, like

1770
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 4: with with Yellowstone and I against you and Poison at

1771
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 4: the end, I came down to the last hole a

1772
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 4: couple of par are a couple of bogies to kind

1773
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:06,599
Speaker 4: of save the this smash my pars. You sure did. Yeah.

1774
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 2: On sixteen and seventeen, which were both like four and

1775
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 2: thirty four or forty yard par fours that were tough. Yeah,

1776
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 2: eighteen though, Gibby, I don't know. I will tell him,

1777
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 2: will tell us the story of eighteen.

1778
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, we just went sideways. I'm pretty sure my body

1779
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 4: was like, yeah, you need to be done.

1780
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 2: It's the biggest shot of your life. And you're like, well,

1781
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 2: this pond looks good.

1782
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, it does right to the right, splash down, baby. Meanwhile,

1783
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 4: Drew's tin cupping it next to me. I've noticed at

1784
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 4: that point he has now taken five shots. Oh yeah,

1785
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 4: a degree, put them all in the drink. Yeah, And

1786
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 4: I'm like, well he's matched out. I don't know what

1787
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 4: that means for me here.

1788
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 3: But men, the men, you needed h that one on

1789
01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 3: the green, and then you and then when you did

1790
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 3: hit in the water. And it's funny.

1791
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:54,639
Speaker 2: I was telling it to stay short. I was trying

1792
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 2: to helpe it hit a tree and stayed on land,

1793
01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:57,759
Speaker 2: and everybody's like, stay short.

1794
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 3: Well, he said. I knew it wasn't flying the lake.

1795
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 3: I forgot. It wasn't gonna fly.

1796
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:04,720
Speaker 2: It had no chance of flying lake. The only chance

1797
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 2: it had to be dry was to somehow not make

1798
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:09,519
Speaker 2: it to the lake. Oh my God, it was a

1799
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 2: good time. Robert Pace, serious question about the on off light.

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01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 2: Why does Nathan have to tap his mic but Bow

1801
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 2: never does? Great question, Robert, Let me offer my always

1802
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:23,680
Speaker 2: on and light me it is on, Robert, No, let

1803
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 2: me offer. Let me give an answer. No, no, let

1804
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 2: me give an answer, and then you can you can,

1805
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:33,759
Speaker 2: you can go ahead and smite me down. My mic

1806
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:37,679
Speaker 2: is not often turned. I don't know where that came from,

1807
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:40,920
Speaker 2: but my oh, maybe out of there. My mic is

1808
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 2: not potted up when we often when we return from

1809
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 2: break and the guy he'll say you guys ready, Bow

1810
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:49,800
Speaker 2: will answer yes. So Bow knows his MIC's on because

1811
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 2: he can hit it in his ear. My mic may

1812
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 2: be on, clicked on, but I'm not potted off. Yes,

1813
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 2: but I'm not potted up usually, so then the first

1814
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:01,080
Speaker 2: time I talk, a lot of times I'm not up,

1815
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:03,640
Speaker 2: and then it's like, oh, the only way I know

1816
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 2: I am up and on is when I pad it,

1817
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 2: because sometimes I've talked and I have been on, so

1818
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:10,680
Speaker 2: then I click it and then you go, oops, it

1819
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:12,719
Speaker 2: was actually on on the board, not on on the board,

1820
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 2: but my mic was on.

1821
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:15,640
Speaker 4: But a lot of times you're the reason you were

1822
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 4: not up is when when the when the because says

1823
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 4: thirty seconds, you should wrap up your conversation.

1824
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:27,800
Speaker 3: Okay, so you roll right through that stop so you

1825
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:28,679
Speaker 3: know what I'm gonna take.

1826
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 4: For the seconds five seconds, music's playing Zigura. Still having

1827
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 4: a conversation, all right. So at this point it's safer

1828
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 4: to leave you down because I don't want you to

1829
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:39,599
Speaker 4: say something and get in trouble.

1830
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:41,600
Speaker 2: So what I just took from that is that the

1831
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 2: point I made in your mind is valid and you're

1832
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 2: saying that case. The reason that that is the case, though,

1833
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 2: is my fault. So you were you were you right

1834
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 2: there instead of it you you bait. You agreed with

1835
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 2: what I just said, but also then turned it into

1836
01:19:57,080 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 2: another attack on me.

1837
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 4: Well, no, because you you did this whole little thing,

1838
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 4: and that's the reason why we don't turn you up

1839
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 4: until you're on right.

1840
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 2: So sometimes that creates confusion because I could be.

1841
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:13,560
Speaker 4: That we're staying quiet and ready. You say yes, he

1842
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 4: says yes, everybody's i'd.

1843
01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 3: Say yes, I'm ready to do that. I think you

1844
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:19,840
Speaker 3: need to do that because that will alleviate.

1845
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 2: Or on air light like any normal radio studio that

1846
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 2: was designed by anybody other than you would have you

1847
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:29,799
Speaker 2: designed it. This was your You had every specification exactly

1848
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:30,840
Speaker 2: the way you wanted.

1849
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:31,639
Speaker 3: It, and this is the result.

1850
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 4: We move forward on Male pay Thursday at Brown's Underscore

1851
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 4: Daily Love a Dog Today. Have you noticed a difference

1852
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 4: tangible with the veteran presence of this year's free agents

1853
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 4: like Thornhill, McLeod, uh and Dalvin Tomlinson. Seems like these

1854
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:50,000
Speaker 4: guys bring the right balance of leadership and talent.

1855
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 3: I've noticed it, I would say yes.

1856
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 2: I just I feel like the whole team's sense of

1857
01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:59,600
Speaker 2: their purpose and their talent is is different. And what

1858
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 2: there what the goals are. So I think a guy

1859
01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:04,640
Speaker 2: like Jan Thornhill can talk to his teammates about what

1860
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:07,799
Speaker 2: it takes. Rodney McLeod knows this defense you're seeing, Dalvin

1861
01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 2: Thomlinson talk to us about, you know, putting in that

1862
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 2: extra work in the interview that you played yesterday. Gibbe,

1863
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:16,719
Speaker 2: you've got Zadarius, you know, working out after practice, leading sprints.

1864
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 2: So yeah, I do think that there is a tangible

1865
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 2: difference there. Again, this team is not going to be

1866
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 2: judged by tangible differences or good feels or anything that

1867
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 2: happens here at the Green. But this seems going to

1868
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:31,320
Speaker 2: be judged by does it win when it matters, beginning

1869
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 2: against the Cincinnati Bengals week one. But there are signs

1870
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 2: of the professionalism of this team that that is trending

1871
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:42,799
Speaker 2: certainly in the right direction.

1872
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 4: I would tend to agree with you. Uh, team Meg,

1873
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 4: sounds like trying camp on the road has been and

1874
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 4: he had.

1875
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:54,360
Speaker 3: He left the word there.

1876
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been good. I think it's been fine. Uh

1877
01:21:57,479 --> 01:21:59,720
Speaker 4: do you think they would do this years to come?

1878
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:03,839
Speaker 4: I think if we win, you're probably running it back somewhere.

1879
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:05,759
Speaker 4: I'd be here maybe elsewhere.

1880
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 2: I think that if this goes well, and yes, we

1881
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 2: get out to a fast start, and I don't know

1882
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 2: that it would be attributed to this anyway, because we'll

1883
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:14,920
Speaker 2: be back for so long after.

1884
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:16,320
Speaker 3: That's curious.

1885
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 2: And that's one thing that they have not really commented

1886
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:21,680
Speaker 2: on one way or the other, because we won't have

1887
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 2: the extra week you're going forwards, So sure that we

1888
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:25,600
Speaker 2: would do it.

1889
01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 4: We would rather do a joint practice with someone then

1890
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:30,599
Speaker 4: and that could be on the road for a week,

1891
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:32,080
Speaker 4: like we're going to Philly for five.

1892
01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 2: Days or I wonder if the Because some other teams

1893
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 2: reported for training camp when we did, even though they're

1894
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:39,759
Speaker 2: not playing. So I wonder if there's a It feels

1895
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 2: like some of the teams that completely cut out the

1896
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 2: mandatory mini camp and canceled that last week, we're able

1897
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:45,920
Speaker 2: to like come back a week earlier. So I wonder

1898
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 2: if that would be a thing that they would be

1899
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:49,640
Speaker 2: willing to do, is take a week out of the

1900
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 2: early portion.

1901
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:53,720
Speaker 4: Let's not No, you don't want to come back. I

1902
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:57,000
Speaker 4: don't need to come back early unless someone else goes

1903
01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:58,679
Speaker 4: into the becomes a hoff.

1904
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 3: We don't need to come back.

1905
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 2: But then, how did those other teams all report when

1906
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 2: we did? There are other teams that reported that teams

1907
01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 2: there are other teams in training camp this week that

1908
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 2: are not in the Hall of Fame game.

1909
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:11,680
Speaker 4: I don't have an answer for you, So first year coaches.

1910
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 2: No, because I know Detroit is having is in camp.

1911
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:18,679
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't know. The Jets are in camp.

1912
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:20,679
Speaker 3: We play the Jets.

1913
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:22,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Dolphins are in camp. Oh, the Dolphins are

1914
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:24,280
Speaker 2: in camp. We don't play the Dolphin, are right?

1915
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 7: We do.

1916
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:27,120
Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson limped off today. I hope he's okay. Yikes,

1917
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 2: Jalen Ramsey, We're going to see him.

1918
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 3: No, no, if you're expecting put him in bubble.

1919
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 2: Hopefully knock on with everybody can stay healthy. But you're

1920
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:39,800
Speaker 2: next seeing DeShawn Watson and Aaron Rodgers until December at

1921
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:40,799
Speaker 2: Clinton Brown Stadium.

1922
01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:44,880
Speaker 4: Mark justin what base defense will the Browns rely on?

1923
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 4: What young linebackers do you expect to take a leap

1924
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:47,639
Speaker 4: this year?

1925
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 3: And why?

1926
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 2: I would expect our base defense to be nickel, which

1927
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:56,719
Speaker 2: would be for defensive linemen, two linebackers, three corners, two safeties.

1928
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:59,880
Speaker 2: I think that'd be our base even though when teams

1929
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 2: refer to base defense that is typically four down.

1930
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:04,640
Speaker 3: Linemen and three linebackers.

1931
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Speaker 2: But I think our quote unquote normal defense, our highest

1932
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Speaker 2: utilized personnel grouping will be the nickel and then young linebackers.

1933
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Speaker 2: I mean, we'll see what Diabadi can do in the pads.

1934
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Speaker 2: Come on, Kunashiks still a young guy relatively. But the

1935
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Speaker 2: guy that's got to take a big leap is Jeremiah

1936
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 2: Wusu Kormo. That's the guy that has a chance to

1937
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Speaker 2: be a star for you. That's who's got to take

1938
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Speaker 2: the leak the leap.

1939
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Speaker 3: Jacob Phillips close second.

1940
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Speaker 2: And hopefully he's okay. We saw him walk off earlier.

1941
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Speaker 4: Today Brown's therapy with a question, what undrafted free agents

1942
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Speaker 4: have been flashing or standing out in camp so far?

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Speaker 3: Wow?

1944
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Speaker 2: On offense, and they're not rookies this year, but still

1945
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Speaker 2: undrafted free agents would be Mike Harley junior, Dalan Baldwin,

1946
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Speaker 2: Tyrone Wheatley junior. The tackle has taken a nice step

1947
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:53,560
Speaker 2: from last year to this year. And then defensively, Diabade

1948
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:55,599
Speaker 2: has looked good. And then we just haven't really seen

1949
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:59,200
Speaker 2: enough of the safeties. I Girad is my expert on

1950
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Speaker 2: that aspect of playing defense, and he hasn't seen enough

1951
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Speaker 2: yet to have anybody really stand out, so and neither

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Speaker 2: of I.

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Speaker 4: There we go a little Bobby time, Babby, what TV

1954
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Speaker 4: show would you want to be in?

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Speaker 3: Wow? Wow, that's a good question. What TV show? I

1956
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Speaker 3: like a number one win for yard.

1957
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:28,960
Speaker 2: It's just a and I get to be whoever I

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Speaker 2: want in the TV show.

1959
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Speaker 3: I don't know.

1960
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm pretty sure why am I blinking on

1961
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Speaker 2: the name of the show? Hold on one second, I

1962
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:42,679
Speaker 2: thought of Game of Thrones.

1963
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 3: If I had billions, could be a good one.

1964
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Speaker 2: Gerd shouting that out mad menton I'd like to.

1965
01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:53,799
Speaker 4: Be in mad menon all right? Yeah, greasy? What's that greasy?

1966
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 2: Running an ad age in the in the I have

1967
01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:03,479
Speaker 2: it feels like they're living their best lives. Uh, Bobby,

1968
01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:07,280
Speaker 2: we gotta ask right, remember that question. We got to

1969
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:11,679
Speaker 2: ask Bo that tomorrow. Okay, I'm I would be shocked

1970
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:13,880
Speaker 2: if he doesn't have the same answer.

1971
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Speaker 7: Ah.

1972
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:19,080
Speaker 4: Strangest song you have on your workout playlist?

1973
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:27,120
Speaker 2: On my workout playlist? Yeah, I don't know that any

1974
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 2: of them are that strange. It's a lot of like

1975
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 2: WWE theme songs. It's a lot of that kind of

1976
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 2: like rock around that some good rap. I don't know

1977
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:36,000
Speaker 2: if on my play I mean a lot of Marilyn Manson.

1978
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 2: Marilyn Manson gets me fired up in the gym. I

1979
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:40,479
Speaker 2: don't know if there's anything that strange. Maybe hurt by

1980
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:44,120
Speaker 2: Johnny Cash because it's not really a workout vibe, but

1981
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:46,680
Speaker 2: it was used by the WWE in one of their

1982
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:48,559
Speaker 2: like promo packages that I really liked, so.

1983
01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 3: I have it on there.

1984
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:52,800
Speaker 4: What are you looking forward most too? During Hall of

1985
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:53,400
Speaker 4: Fame week?

1986
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 3: Being back in my own bed.

1987
01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:59,240
Speaker 2: And then anything with the Hoff all the time we

1988
01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:00,800
Speaker 2: get to hang with the Off anytime we get to

1989
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 2: see him, and I'm excited for the first game, you know,

1990
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:06,800
Speaker 2: and and getting back in the booth with with Jim

1991
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:09,400
Speaker 2: Donovan and having Jirid down on the sideline.

1992
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 4: Next Thursday, buddy, one week from today.

1993
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:13,240
Speaker 3: Absolutely can't wait.

1994
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Speaker 7: Uh.

1995
01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:16,320
Speaker 4: Two places you want to go before you die?

1996
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 3: That's a good one. You get Italy and Greece. I

1997
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:21,519
Speaker 3: gotta check those off.

1998
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 2: I want to go to Bordeaux, and I really want

1999
01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:35,760
Speaker 2: to go to like Southeast Asia, Thailand, Japan, all of it.

2000
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 3: Never done that, that's on my I'd like to do that.

2001
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 3: I don't.

2002
01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:40,920
Speaker 8: I don't need to.

2003
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:42,840
Speaker 3: I think Thailand would be pretty great.

2004
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:45,240
Speaker 8: I don't know why, I'm just not. I'm not there

2005
01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 8: deal with tai food. I do like typhood.

2006
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 4: What personality trade has gotten you in the most trouble?

2007
01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 4: I do love Greek food and Italian food better.

2008
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:56,559
Speaker 3: What is That's a good one?

2009
01:27:56,720 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 7: Uh?

2010
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 2: That I initially all ways see the good in everybody,

2011
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:06,799
Speaker 2: and so sometimes I can be too kind or trusting,

2012
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:09,800
Speaker 2: which could lead you to be not as happy later.

2013
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 2: Why is that so funny?

2014
01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:25,080
Speaker 4: Because I know one example, pro crocs are anti crocs, huge.

2015
01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:28,320
Speaker 2: Pry so I had never had a pair of crocs.

2016
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 2: Tell about a year, maybe a year and a half ago.

2017
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:34,880
Speaker 2: It would have been, yeah, a year and a half ago.

2018
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 2: It would have been not this past Christmas, but the

2019
01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:40,160
Speaker 2: Christmas before that. Everybody in the family, we all got crocs.

2020
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:42,439
Speaker 3: I love them. Like you're in a pinch.

2021
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:45,800
Speaker 2: You need to go run out and get the garbage can,

2022
01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 2: or you need to take the garbage out, take the

2023
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:50,000
Speaker 2: dog out real quick, something like that. You just step

2024
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:52,559
Speaker 2: right into your crocks. And then the fur lined ones

2025
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:53,760
Speaker 2: in the winter when you got to go out in

2026
01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:55,439
Speaker 2: the snow and they got good grip on the bottom,

2027
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 2: you gotta go out on the snow and bring in

2028
01:28:57,520 --> 01:28:59,840
Speaker 2: the garbage. Or sometimes I just you could throw them,

2029
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:03,600
Speaker 2: yes awhere.

2030
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:05,280
Speaker 4: Every morning with the dew. Yeah, like I can just it.

2031
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 4: It comes right off, no big deal, Uh, real quick.

2032
01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:10,759
Speaker 4: We have like thirty second By the way.

2033
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:13,120
Speaker 2: Did we just I think we've gone like twenty straight minutes.

2034
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 4: That's pretty good. Which is the worst A having to

2035
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 4: get out of the shower to go number two? B

2036
01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:21,360
Speaker 4: having to go immediately after the shower, or see having

2037
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:23,760
Speaker 4: to go again shortly after going a first time From

2038
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:25,479
Speaker 4: David Whalen, tough question.

2039
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 2: This feels that this feels a question for you. I'm

2040
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 2: not even answer this is this is your question.

2041
01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:36,920
Speaker 3: Go ahead. I think B because you're clean? Yeah, what

2042
01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:38,360
Speaker 3: was B? What were the choices?

2043
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:40,560
Speaker 4: A Having to get out of the shower to go

2044
01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:44,360
Speaker 4: number two okay, that's always never good. B having to

2045
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:46,519
Speaker 4: go immediately after the shower, because like, you're clean.

2046
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:49,439
Speaker 3: How does this happen though? Huh? I don't know.

2047
01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:53,800
Speaker 2: Maybe the body's just not ready. Maybe Okay, I think

2048
01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:57,880
Speaker 2: we should break. Yeah, you chose to read that question.

2049
01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:01,000
Speaker 2: You had a full mail bag. You picked question. It

2050
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:04,000
Speaker 2: was a question for you and your human looking. How

2051
01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:06,000
Speaker 2: joyful you. I wish we were on the stream so

2052
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 2: people can see how joyous.

2053
01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:08,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a week on that. Yeah.

2054
01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:11,800
Speaker 4: Sorry, Hey, how about so much more to come? You're

2055
01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:13,479
Speaker 4: gonna go to break here? I just said, we gotta

2056
01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:14,760
Speaker 4: go to break. I thought you were gonna do it.

2057
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:17,040
Speaker 4: I thought you were like taking here the head hotel.

2058
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:18,599
Speaker 4: All right, so much more to come? Here on Cleve

2059
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Speaker 4: Brown's Daily on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Live at Brown's training camp located at the Greenbrier Resort

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01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:37,040
Speaker 1: in West Virginia. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to

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01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:39,960
Speaker 1: you by Bally Bet coming soon to Ohio on eight

2063
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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland.

2064
01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:49,920
Speaker 2: All right, tomorrow, Gibbey just dropped a bomb on us.

2065
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:53,519
Speaker 2: Donovan Peoples Jones, my guy DPJ. The law firm slated

2066
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:56,080
Speaker 2: to join us right here. That's Ben Jarvis green Ellis.

2067
01:30:56,280 --> 01:30:58,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, like there's a new firm in town.

2068
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:01,760
Speaker 2: Did you have a cross pass with Jarvis Greenels He

2069
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:04,640
Speaker 2: was much later, Yeah later, Okay, Yeah, that was the

2070
01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:06,559
Speaker 2: law firm. That was the law firm there. All right,

2071
01:31:06,640 --> 01:31:09,360
Speaker 2: the next level is next for Gibbe, but we'll be

2072
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:11,280
Speaker 2: back with us tomorrow as well. For Gibbe and Nathan

2073
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:13,479
Speaker 2: Sziger saying thanks for listening to another edition of Cleveland

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