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P. 23 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: Cole. 24 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: Let's get back to the show. 25 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: I ain't never experienced that, so I don't I don't 26 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: know how to judge it. I don't know what to 27 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: say about it because it's like every time I've been around, bro, 28 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,839 Speaker 1: it's been about work. It's been about getting to some money. 29 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: It ain't it ain't never been about that. 30 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 3: And we and and you know, we're trying. I have 31 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 3: grace for him, man. 32 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: I think now I'm not saying that didn't happen, right, 33 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: I'm saying I. 34 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 2: Don't know, right right right, right, right right. 35 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: I ain't never been to have been. 36 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: You have been to some of. 37 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 3: The party, but that but but are you aware that 38 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 3: they are different levels of a puff party. 39 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure it is. What I'm saying is whatever that 40 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: level is. 41 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 2: The see the social media, you see that. 42 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: I ain't never made it to that level. Bro, that's 43 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: on my son. I ain't And I never heard of it. 44 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: I've heard people say things, you know what I'm saying, like, uh, brother, 45 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: fuck with old girl. You know what I'm saying with girl? Yeah, 46 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: oh girl famous, she got a career, whatever that may be. 47 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: I ain't never. 48 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: Heard the weirdo kids. 49 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: And you know what I mean, I ain't never heard that. 50 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: Like I didn't kicked it with just with you know 51 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like we didn't kicked it in spots 52 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: bro like real life chilling. I ain't never seen nothing 53 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: like that, So I don't know how to judge it now. 54 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: If it's true, that's some foul lash facts. He a 55 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: foul person, But me personally, I've never seen that side 56 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: of that person anytime I've been around that person. 57 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 3: I'm interested in in understanding or studying media's role in 58 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 3: and did his persona changing, like the way people view him, Like. 59 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: I mean, if we're gonna talk about that, you gotta 60 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: go down a rabbit hole of Bill Cosby and yeah, 61 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: you know what I. 62 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 2: Mean, tupacs it get deep now. 63 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: You know it's that's a whole nother conversation. 64 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 3: But then even even if we niche it down right, 65 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 3: like because mainstream media can't come up. 66 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: With the freak off and the freak oh, these are 67 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 2: Twitter culture. 68 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: I agree, this is culture. Tad At, I agree. I agree. 69 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Like, if it's just such thing 70 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: as a freak off, what I'm telling you is my 71 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: my son, I ain't never been invited or heard that 72 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: term in my circle of friends in the industry. I 73 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: ain't never heard that because and I probably ain't big 74 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: enough to hear that term yet. You know what I'm saying, 75 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: that's probably block in the term. What I'm saying is, 76 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: is you hearing the term now because it's public? Right? 77 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 3: We made it public? I don't know, That's what I'm saying. 78 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 3: Don't nobody know what we know? 79 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: What made it public? 80 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: No? No, no, I ain't talking about the allegations. 81 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: What made it public. 82 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 2: I'm talking about that term. 83 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: What made what made that term public was, if I'm 84 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: not mistaken, the Cassie thing, because it was in the 85 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: court files and she even called in the paperwork. She 86 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: said I had to participate in what he would call 87 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: freak offs. That's what made it public. Dangn So until then, 88 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 1: I ain't never heard of. 89 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 3: And she puts so much weight on it. She she 90 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 3: the one put the weight on it. Without her, None 91 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 3: of this is what it looks like. It doesn't look 92 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 3: the same. She got an extensive relationship and she makes 93 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 3: it look man. 94 00:04:56,200 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: I don't know, bro, I don't know. Like I pray 95 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: for everybody involved, you know what I'm saying. I pray 96 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: for him, man, But it's like I can't speak on him, man, 97 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: because I don't know. If I swear to God money 98 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: if I ever seen was around puff Duce somewhere, I 99 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: would leave it on my child. I will tell you 100 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: right now, Brady has seen that do some foul shion? 101 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 2: Right. 102 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: I never seen it, bro onor my mama, I've never 103 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: seen it. 104 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 2: Do you think that. 105 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 3: Where all his industry, that all the people that made 106 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 3: money with him made music with him? 107 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:37,239 Speaker 1: I mean or them is for his business partners? Everybody 108 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 1: ain't your friend in it just because you get money 109 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: with it. I mean they your friend. I get money 110 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: with a lot. It ain't my friends in his business. 111 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 2: But did it was position? 112 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 3: He's a powerful guy, so they a lot of people 113 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 3: position theirself to him as friends. 114 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's like it ain't it ain't their job 115 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: to say something like, well, like what they're supposed to 116 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: say when you got all these wild alleys. Nothing they 117 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: say is gonna change what the is going on. Jay 118 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: Z or Beyonce come off tomorrow and say I stand 119 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: with Sean Conng like future could come out tomorrow. It's 120 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: not gonna change what's been said and what's going on. 121 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: So it's like whether somebody say something or not, what 122 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: does it change That's. 123 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 3: What fit is basically saying that Jay is like dis 124 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 3: associate just like because I mean, we all black dog 125 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 3: and you will see these dudes take pictures together. These 126 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 3: are the billion there class of gods. 127 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: But we may be talking about a rock Nation brunch 128 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: from six years ago. We don't know if Diddy and 129 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: Jay took a picture in the last when the last 130 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: time we seen them together. We don't know that we 131 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: be going off we've seen off social media that's ten 132 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: years old and twenty years old. We don't know if 133 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: they dine kicked it in the last five year. They 134 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: probably fell out or we don't know, right, We don't know. 135 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 3: So for me, then some people don't stand by this 136 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 3: kind of some some in the street, like certain for real, 137 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 3: Certain you can't stand by environments we come up from 138 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 3: with children. 139 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: Get the way. For me, we're fin the beach. 140 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 2: You can't stand by that that, you know what I'm saying. 141 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: So if I'm not gonna put you on a personal 142 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: level on the streets, why would I publicly voice I 143 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: don't know what you are? 144 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 2: Right? 145 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 3: And then like you said, for people on social media 146 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 3: and things that's looking for jay Z and these guys, 147 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 3: how do we even know they really have? Their relationship happened? 148 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 3: These guys we don't know forever. Every time we see 149 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 3: them together, it's a war show dinner. 150 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 2: And they called the dollar. 151 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: We can interact the game every week JB with Emory. 152 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 2: Still ain't a company together. 153 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: You know what. 154 00:07:56,080 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 3: I ain't seen them company one of that facts. 155 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: We ain't see none of that. So it's like, we 156 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: can't just expect somebody to say something because you didn't 157 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: done business or done a song with somebody. 158 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: Before, you know what I'm saying. 159 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: Like, especially, it's tough. 160 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 3: What about the people that worked for him though they 161 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 3: do you think they owe him that? 162 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: I think it depends because everybody experience is different. Like 163 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: I'm saying, my experience is my experience. It may be 164 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: somebody who worked for that who experienced a traumatic thing, 165 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. They probably could have said 166 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: he was a mean boss. It could have been some 167 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: people that said changed my life. I got love for 168 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: him forever, you know what I mean. 169 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 3: So it's like, do you think that this super that 170 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 3: having love for can supersede? 171 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 2: See again, I think. 172 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: It depends on the detriment of the situation, because I 173 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: could love him off to the end. But if you 174 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: with kids talk, if you it's this, I don't that too. 175 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. If you're forcing women to 176 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: do I can't right. 177 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 3: On no level, no level. And I want to be 178 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 3: loud about that. I can't anybody feel me. 179 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: If somebody asks me, I'll give my opinion now, dude, 180 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: But I'm not just gonna pick up my phone and 181 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: tell the whole world on with that, because for what, right, 182 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: don't nobody care. Don't nobody care if you this or 183 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: not for these twenty four hours, tomorrow, the future and 184 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: then Drake that made a new song together and they 185 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: back cool, right, don't nobody care no more? Right, you 186 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Or Kanye didn dropped the new 187 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: boot that's going viral, right, don'tbody care no more? 188 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 2: So? 189 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: It's like if I'm with your with you, I know that, 190 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: and you know that if the world asks me, I'll 191 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: let them know. Other than that, I'm not gonna need 192 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: to pick up my phone and tell the world on 193 00:09:58,600 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: with this. 194 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 2: You know. 195 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 3: Let's talk about YouTube's involvement or black media's that niche 196 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 3: of like the messy YouTube right, Yeah, they they live 197 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 3: in a spot where I think that these titles of 198 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 3: videos and these content creators can really fuel the investigation. 199 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: Man, oh one, they solving crime, They solving crimes, but 200 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: solve Young doff Hoole murder before the police department did 201 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: they solving crimes? Dog. 202 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 3: Now this blurs the lines because not only are they 203 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 3: solving crimes, they putting bulls in the water. So that's 204 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 3: online that's so far from the truth. That's penning murders 205 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 3: on people. That's penning these kind of crimes that we're 206 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 3: talking about on people. 207 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 1: The problem is when you bring the streets to the Internet, 208 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: you allow the Internet to create whatever narrative they want. 209 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: The streets ain't for the internet. So when people start 210 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: putting a personal business on the streets, you can't get 211 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: mad at the blogger who spends it a certain way 212 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: for us, because you put that ship there for public. 213 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 3: And responsibility too. I mean, he can not that blogger. 214 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: That blogger got a responsibility to U to his. 215 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: It's entertained by bush what you think he gonna give them. 216 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 2: But there's still souls on the other side of the bully. 217 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: He don't care. 218 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 2: Well, he ain't no better than the rapper. 219 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 3: He ain't no better than what they say about King 220 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 3: vond Okay, so that's what I'm saying. 221 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: So so he's the nigs that are talking about you. 222 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: Then if you slap them, they call the police on you. 223 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: That's who they are. And I'm not saying all bloggers 224 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: are that. I'm just saying there's a culture of people 225 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: that live that way, right, they're entertaining they So because 226 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: we don't by by those morals and principles, we shouldn't 227 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: allow them those people to have the information that we're 228 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: putting out there for them to go spend narratives. 229 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 3: Some of the information is public information they deal with 230 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 3: though that's true because of what you can't control, right, 231 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 3: And also true, there's a there's a responsibility to the 232 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 3: public to uphold safety, and so when something happens, there 233 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 3: is a readily available site that showed certain arrests, which 234 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 3: doesn't necessarily mean guilty. Yeah, doesn't necessarily mean certain things. 235 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 3: And by the time trial comes, this has already been painted. 236 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: For sure, and there and and that that needs to 237 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 1: be worked on. I'm not by far generalizing this saying 238 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: all bloggers are, all streets are doing this. I'm just 239 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: talking about the few and two that do right. So 240 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: there are bloggers who go dig into people's while they 241 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 1: fighting the trial, just to recite it back to theirs, 242 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: and they're not even thinking about what this person is 243 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: going through. 244 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 3: That's when I'm trying with Diddy. So when when Cassie 245 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 3: happened and he paid Cassie, you have the black community 246 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 3: now fueling off of these lawsuits. Now, some of this 247 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 3: can be a money grab mixed with some it can 248 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 3: be mixed with all kind of happening. But the YouTube 249 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 3: community has a that I don't think black media understands 250 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 3: its power. 251 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 1: Dog. 252 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 3: I don't think they know that the federal government is 253 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 3: watching them. The man that did it got family man. 254 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: Ods dog, black man, you got to protect yourself from me. 255 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 3: You know how much black did it? Was hollering, come 256 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 3: on black everything I black. This black man grew up 257 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 3: watching that man. 258 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 2: Bro. 259 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: Oh, we grew up watching them and Bill Cosby. Bro 260 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: we grew up watching that man. Bro. We grew up 261 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: watching them men. 262 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 3: Like we find we find pleasure in snatching the rug 263 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 3: from under these men. 264 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: Man. Yeah, but sometimes some of these men put themselves 265 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: in positions for snatch the rug up under. That's true. Too. 266 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, if you're doing fast 267 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: Bru at some point is gonna make get to the light. 268 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 2: But that the file. 269 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 3: We're not even talking about an excusing on any level, 270 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 3: Like we want to be clear. 271 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: With none of at all. But but there is let's 272 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: not even use the name Cosby and Puff and all that. 273 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: Let's just say random people. There is an agenda against 274 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: certain successful black people who get to a certain level 275 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: and people feel like we got to bring them back down. 276 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: Fact they're getting a little too ahead of themselves. Yes, 277 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, said j Ryme. He said, 278 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: look what success do to be Bobby, then you gotta 279 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: be Bobby now come on now. 280 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's the kind of cerebral you talking them rhymes. 281 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: That's what I try to give him every time. Bro. 282 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: It's like something could think about, because it's like we 283 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: were living in some real they don't even like really pay. 284 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: It's like we're living in an outrage. The outlaws is 285 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: outrage inflations that all the time, just like the pussy 286 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: rate in this era of women scratch off like a 287 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: sweet steaks. For Pete's sakes, you can't even take these 288 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: girls to cheeks cake. He's young, ain't think straight. They 289 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: growing up confused because the ogs they look up to 290 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: and even living by what they dictate them. Tell your 291 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: standing on business until you're six, sake, go to jail, 292 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: come home broke, and go back for clickbait. My daddy 293 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: was an infate who never got the chance to be 294 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: a father because he was trying to find a way 295 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: to get his kids straight. As a child, I felt 296 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: the way, but that ain't how I feel the day 297 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: because having ad it made me realize risking life is 298 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: what it takes. It's real life. My life. My daddy was, 299 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: my daddy was. It made you know what I'm saying like, 300 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't rap about the glorification of or 301 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: taking any damn hold on. I ain't wanting people broke 302 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: who glorify tearing on people down. I understand everybody got 303 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: a story to tell. Everybody come from the streets and 304 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: hurt somebody and took something from them before they want 305 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: their get back. I understand that, bro I watch my 306 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: daddy go through it. My daddy was a stone Colt cycle. 307 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. They took him from me. 308 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: He did some unfortunate things, you know, and in prison, right, 309 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: But guess what, I was born in prison. I was 310 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: born in prison, bro right, So what that taught me 311 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: is to never come back to this. Because my mom 312 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: went there, my dad went there, my aunties went there, 313 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: both my uncles went there. Everybody in my life went 314 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: to prison, so it was set up for me to 315 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: go there. So I said, I gotta be the one 316 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: bro that don't follow that footstep. So I'm never gonna 317 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,719 Speaker 1: rap about shooting because I ain't got no intentions on 318 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: nobody I could talk to it got an issue with it. 319 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: Ain't that person you step on my Oh you girl, 320 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: I know where I like. We could talk about it. 321 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: Ain't that serious. You stole loo computer or something a 322 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 1: year ago. We could talk about this, bro, But it's 323 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: some things you can't come back from. Mama, you whether 324 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 1: you you can't come back from you know what I'm saying. 325 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 1: I understand that side. So I don't speak on that 326 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: side because that ain't something I'm willing to go do 327 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: until I experience what that feel like. I ain't never 328 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: felt that. I felt that my best friend, but I 329 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: don't think I was mad enough to try to go 330 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: kill it take them. I don't know how I feel 331 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 1: it I get that to my son. 332 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 2: How old was you when that happened? 333 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: That was in twenty twenty. Damn, that was in twenty twenty. 334 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: I lost one of my best friends on New Year's 335 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: I knew that was gonna be the worst year ever, 336 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: the same year as COVID. I knew it. I lost him. 337 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 1: But that trought me like and for me, I had 338 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: a small moment in my mind like i'm'a go get them. 339 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get I'm gonna put that bag up on him. Ah, Bro, 340 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: that ain't true. Bro, you ain't ready for what's gonna 341 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 1: come with that. Take your ass to the studio telling 342 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: how much you love him, Go rap about how you feel. 343 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: Put that energy somewhere else because you finish, Go do 344 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: something that's gonna make somebody else. Brother, ma'ma feel how 345 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: you feel. And at this point, the psychle ain't gonna 346 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 1: never stop. So if I'm a part of the problem, 347 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 1: how much is. 348 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 2: A solution in my that's deep. 349 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: I respect that, you know what I'm saying. So it's like. 350 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 3: I can't I can't bring myself to getting in the 351 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 3: booth and saying I'm gonna pop it. 352 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: If you look at me wrong. I'm gonna take your 353 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: chain because you work so hard and I didn't. Yeah, 354 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: and you pussy you feel me? I can't. I can't. 355 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: My heart won't let me do it regardless if I 356 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: know it's a lot of street see in this industry. 357 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 1: That's pussy. I slept it out of somebody, right, you 358 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But for what trying to get money? 359 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: Just like me, Bro, you just might be more confused 360 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 1: in your process. You might be portraying the image I'm 361 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: not willing to portray. Let me not judge you. Brother. 362 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: You're going through an identity crisis right now, so am I. 363 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: I'm just going through it on another side of the 364 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: world that you ain't. We came up on two different sides. 365 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 366 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 3: In this business is that room for love and friendship 367 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 3: and business? 368 00:19:58,359 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? 369 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 2: How do you watch happen into that? 370 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: We watch the country artists do it all the time. 371 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 2: We watch white people doing this country things we're not 372 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 2: able to do. 373 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: I think a lot of the frustration and aggravation be 374 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: coming from a lack of information. That's crazy, because that 375 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: just run and I ain't mean it run, but I 376 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 1: think sometimes people don't have all the information on the 377 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: things that they're trying to get to, and they take 378 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: those frustrations out on other people. Like I watch people 379 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: develop problems with people for no reason at all all 380 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: the time, just because that person moving a certain way 381 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: they want to move. 382 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 3: I've also watched a sucker think it's a problem when 383 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 3: it's not a problem exactly right. So like even with me, 384 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 3: sometimes I feel like I have a responsibility to over communicate. 385 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 3: Seeing the road, traveling right, seeing which way I went. 386 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 3: I know a million puss that young dudes following me 387 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 3: because my impact when I'm out on the street, I 388 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 3: feel it. So I have a responsibility to over communicate. 389 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 3: So sometimes when I see lane, I had to put 390 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 3: game next to it. Not stop you from doing what 391 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 3: you're doing, but slap a step that's counterfeit. 392 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: Everybody ain't like that though. Some people want you to 393 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: fail because you feel like they're in your spot. I 394 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: mean they feel like you're in they spot. A lot 395 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: of us feel like it's a certain amount of seats 396 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: on success. You feel me like everybody can't eat, So 397 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: sometimes you doing what they want to do and like 398 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 1: you feel like my spot, I ain't gonna get there. So, 399 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: like you say, they create a problem that ain't even there. 400 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: They be mad about you about you ain't even said that, 401 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 1: did You know what I'm saying, Where do you get 402 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: that from the problem? Ain't you? The problem is them? Right? 403 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: They just you can't fight yourself, right, you know what 404 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying, that's yourself, you know what I mean. They 405 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: can't say what they feeling. You know what I mean, 406 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: can't tell the person that they got the problem with, 407 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: what's the problem. They can't get it out, they can't 408 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: communicate it. You know what I'm saying. That's not to 409 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: be insensitive to people that choose to self transition. I'm 410 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 1: not saying that. I'm talking about a specific person who 411 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,959 Speaker 1: balls up so much emotion and get so mad at 412 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: everybody that they just can't take it no more and 413 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: they just check out. Right, No, No, that's a real thing. 414 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: I think. 415 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 3: Also though in this game, there's a fake friendship, there's 416 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 3: a lot of fake friendship, you know. 417 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 2: Fake love. 418 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 3: That's why I even say our last conversation with it 419 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 3: is like that can some of that can be perceived 420 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 3: as fake love? 421 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 2: That he was receiving for twenty five years. 422 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: For sure. 423 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 3: The same media that called them a legend and needed 424 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 3: to rock dollars, it's the same media that now is 425 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 3: running lawsuits that clearly are not true, not all of 426 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 3: the details, but they're running the relacious parts of them, right, 427 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 3: and then it comes out. 428 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 2: I'll give you an example. 429 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 3: So it's not that they don't think I'm speaking about 430 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 3: nothing that's harmful. That was a video in one of 431 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 3: the Diddy lawsuits where they said it was Stevie j. 432 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 3: It was debunked within y Yeah, but but the media 433 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 3: ran it so quick that the debunk don't mean nothing. 434 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: Sometimes, Bro, Sometimes in being a good guy, don't make 435 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 1: money no more, we gotta paint you as the villain, right. 436 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that's what's going on with Puff, 437 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 1: not even with PuF. You know, we're just talking about period. 438 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, because you know they hate you, they love you, 439 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 2: they hate you again. 440 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, like people when people like you so much, bro, 441 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: they gotta find a reason. They gotta find something wrong 442 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: with you, right, you know what I mean. So I've 443 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 1: learned to like just be yourself and let people hate you, 444 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: hate you, and let people love you, love you. And 445 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: then the lily, the people who hate you will learn 446 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: to love you. You know what I'm saying. But it's like 447 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: if you gotta fake it, you know what I mean? Like, 448 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,360 Speaker 1: I remember when I first came into the industry, Bro, 449 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 1: I used to try to be so perfect. Like I 450 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 1: used to like try to not say the wrong thing 451 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: in interviews or like not pitch people off because I 452 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 1: didn't want to ruin my chances of being in the room. 453 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 1: Then I started realizing, like, Bro, I'm in the room 454 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: because people with who I am. Like I would watch 455 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: people gravitate to me more privately than publicly because I 456 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: was being a different person to the public. And it 457 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: wasn't like I was changing my whole perception. I just 458 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: wasn't fully standing on who I was and what I 459 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: believed in at that time. So somebody asked me a 460 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: question about how I think feel about an album or somebody, 461 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: I'll be like, oh, it was cool, even if I 462 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 1: thought it was trashed. Right now, I'm gonna just tell 463 00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: you because I realized I'd rather have people love me 464 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: for who I am they hate me for who I'm. 465 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 3: Not right right, But gotta be hard exactly, gotta be 466 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 3: a hard job for people to love you for who 467 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:10,479 Speaker 3: you're not. 468 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 2: You got standing in that character, and that's. 469 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: Gotta be miserable, bro, it gotta be miserable. Luckily, Luckily 470 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: I caught it early, and my I after my first project, 471 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, why am I being so? And I still 472 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: find myself doing it like somebody setting up and I'll 473 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: be like, it's okay. But now I'm finding myself to 474 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: be like, are you set up? I don't even bother 475 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: coming the morn. 476 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 2: Right because this is your baby, man, feel me. 477 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 1: It's like, I gotta I gotta treat it like that. 478 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: I gotta treat it with more respect than just an opportunity, right, 479 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 1: it ain't just an opportunity, it's my life. 480 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, you done turn that opportunity into a business. The 481 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 3: opportunity is the first part exactly. First I need the opportunity. 482 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 3: Now need to be able to business. I don't capture 483 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 3: the opportunity part. And that's the elevator you were speaking 484 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 3: about earlier. You know, what I'm saying is that YO 485 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 3: were in the building the business part, and we benefits 486 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 3: along the way of that. But there's some benefits up 487 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 3: that elevator that that's what we hit and that's what I. 488 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 2: Really won't what's your feelings on Doctor. 489 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: Dre Man legend Man taught me a lot, helped me 490 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 1: a lot, mhm. Shaped the West Coast music scene into 491 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: what it is today, gave us some of the best 492 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: artists we see in our time. Uh great dude, Like 493 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: just great feature, you know what I mean, great dad, 494 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: great parent, great human being. Bro. And I've never been 495 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: around dre and not learned nothing. Yeah. Never, every time 496 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: I'm around them, I've learned something that I could take 497 00:26:55,320 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: back to the studio. I remember when game this, I 498 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: was about to go, uh to power one those six 499 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: and get back at him. I had a whole Yeah 500 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: game with the l A Leakers and he he said 501 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: something about me. It wasn't like a It was some 502 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: friendly competition rapping. Nothing that you know, get sensitive about. No, 503 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: but I just wondered what was the pow pole he 504 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: gave what he say? He says something about being Mufossa. 505 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: He was like, if you symbol you the lion king, 506 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 1: because I'm Mufossa. It was one of them. The game 507 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 1: I bame, Yeah game my big homie, Like I'd be 508 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: at the studio with them all the time, like, that's 509 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 1: really broke, so I ain't take no offensh to it. 510 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: But the competitor in me was like, oh, big brother 511 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: got me up. I'm not gonna go up blame his ass. 512 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 1: And then Dred called me and was like, don't do that. 513 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: And then he broke down while shop and I was like, 514 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: you know what, You're right? 515 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 2: Why though, because that could have been that's a moment. 516 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 1: But that's it. 517 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 2: But jay Z moment look at the Jayson. 518 00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 1: It's a moment. It wasn't the moment. See if it 519 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: was the moment, Yeah, but. 520 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 2: You out of your moment too though. 521 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 1: No, not necessarily because with that, well what I was 522 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: going to say and what it could have led to, 523 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: it wasn't worth the moment of what was going to happen. 524 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 3: See that's right, but how can how can he shoot 525 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 3: at you? I don't think Game would have took you 526 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 3: like that. I think Game would have took you in 527 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 3: the rim you INPEC. 528 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: Because my verse was you with disrespect. It got it 529 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:29,959 Speaker 1: got real. 530 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, he got some certain things, so you probably. 531 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: It was like it would have just went somewhere there's 532 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: like this that don't need that. You know what I mean, 533 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: he broke down. Why And I was like, you know what, 534 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: you're right And then literally two days later, nobody cared him. 535 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: Right right, you know what I mean? 536 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 2: So and it didn't alter your relationship. 537 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: No, I just text him last month, Happy birthday, you 538 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like I hear dre all the time. 539 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: Happy birthday, big dog man. Can I come play some music? 540 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: Got this record I'm really excited about. Give me some pointers. 541 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: I go through their planes. He hate when I play female. 542 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: He don't like record. He liked that record. So he 543 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: just always been a great friend that if I could 544 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: call him a friend, if yeah, I could call him 545 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: a friend, He's been a great friend to have. 546 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 3: Do you say, what do you weigh him with the 547 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 3: J's of the world, the the diddies, the master ps. 548 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 2: The as far as what like mocal status. 549 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: I think he I mean, if he's not at the 550 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: same level with him, he's pastor because everybody you just name, 551 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: he inspired him. 552 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 2: So if we go, if we go, because you gotta 553 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 2: remember from the South. 554 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 3: That's why I love that I'm powerful in media now 555 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 3: because usually these conversations happen the absence of the bird 556 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 3: Man's and masterpiece it'll be the Dre's parks, the snoops, 557 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 3: the But what about because what. 558 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 2: Dra didn't I don't know if Dre, what did Drake 559 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 2: give the South? 560 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: Well, you gotta think bro not only did he give 561 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: I mean he tried with stack quot, but you gotta 562 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: think Dre played a global game. It wasn't about the West, 563 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: it wasn't about the East, it wasn't about the South. 564 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: It was about how can we affect the world. So 565 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: it's like from n w A to Death Row, to 566 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: the Firm to Aftermath to Mary J. Blige too, it's 567 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: so much. 568 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 3: But with him playing, yeah, with him playing that global game, 569 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 3: he still gave to the East by way of being 570 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 3: he got. 571 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: But you gotta understand, Tudo. At the time, technology ain't 572 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: the way it was today. So we're talking about from Compton, 573 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like dominating the music industry 574 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: over here, and that happens to cross over to the West, 575 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: I mean to the East. Yeah, you know what I mean. 576 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: So it was like and then the South wasn't who 577 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: they are today. They was just kind of getting going, 578 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:44,479 Speaker 1: like Outcast came in, like what's that five? Like that? 579 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: So before that we're talking with the ghetto boy. Yeah, 580 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. 581 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 3: And you got the Houston, you got the master over 582 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 3: cash Money's moving. 583 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: It was all new sky face and so independent because 584 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: they didn't have have rare structures that New York and 585 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: l A had, you know what I mean. 586 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 2: We fought for that, the South of the fight for that. 587 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 3: But you know it's crazy, because it's crazy because. 588 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 2: I can hear Dre and Ya in its production for sure. 589 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 2: You know I can hear. You can still hear Dre 590 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 2: in the East in those East More drums. 591 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: From Can't Beat Life for jay Z, which is a 592 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: Kanye West produced beat. The drums from that beat is 593 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: the same drums as explosive Damn. 594 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,719 Speaker 3: I didn't know that same, but they do that a 595 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 3: lot they I think they share those patterns a lotus this. 596 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 2: Did you peep that or you were told that both. 597 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: I knew as a kid and told that. 598 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 4: Listen, my god, the exact same drum. 599 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: Drake influenced a lot of that, a lot of that 600 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: you just don't know. 601 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 602 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: The reason I was going going back to back to 603 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: call because then he had a. 604 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 3: Certain bounce that he kept a West bounce too, you know, 605 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 3: and he would sneak that into like that. Dude was wrong, man, 606 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 3: the way he was doing that. And guess what you 607 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 3: saw that he was dominating so bad. Timbling had to 608 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 3: up his understanding of incorporation of these things. 609 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 2: You started to see. 610 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 3: Timbling even I know how to do that too now 611 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 3: for real, man, smoking. 612 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: Different, bro, But it's like Dre inspired probably ninety that, bro. 613 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: I just it's probably because I'm a West Coast yeah. 614 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 2: But it's funny to see. 615 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 3: It's funny that I can literally say, I don't know 616 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 3: that the South grabbed anything from Dre. 617 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: I'm not saying they did. I'm saying early hip hop 618 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: right before I was introduced to the South. The pastor 619 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 1: Troy's right, everything like that. When I'm seeing this between 620 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: California and New York, there was a lot of Doctor 621 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: Dre in the Midwest. It was a lot of Doctor 622 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: Dre influence for the South. I could hear some of 623 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: Dre in the week Rico eight. I don't know, man, 624 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: I could hear some of it. I don't know if 625 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 1: Rico A was inspired by Dre. I'm saying I could 626 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:20,320 Speaker 1: hear some of it. 627 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 2: Might be bastness. 628 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I could hear some of it, 629 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: but there's not a lot of producers from the South 630 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: that I could say. I hear Dre in you know 631 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like because the South took over everything 632 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 1: never heard and seen before. 633 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,439 Speaker 3: Right, So back to the question, then when we weigh 634 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 3: him up against you got the Dre's but see what 635 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 3: dre get to the South. If we're gonna be real 636 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 3: about it, it's through fifty right. But it's like because 637 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 3: when you start dealing with in the club, but it's still. 638 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 2: They they never understood it. It was too complicated for 639 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 2: it was something that it's new Doug. Yeah, we well snoop. 640 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 3: But the production side of I'm talking about the producers 641 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 3: you can hear, like, yay, you can hear. You can hear, 642 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,280 Speaker 3: Oh he's Dre. He has some dre and him somewhere 643 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,760 Speaker 3: you can hear his sound. I'm saying that his sound 644 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 3: disappeared in the South because it was very complicated. 645 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 2: He didn't have a lazy. 646 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 1: South just took over. Bro. I think the South to me, 647 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 1: but all this derivative of no for sure, for sure, 648 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: one thousand percent, But I think the South just came 649 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: with his own wave. Dog Like, I think you gotta remember, bro, 650 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,320 Speaker 1: hip hop ain't that old. It's fifty years old, right, 651 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: So it started New York. It's made his way from 652 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:48,320 Speaker 1: New York over to La right, and all this happened 653 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: in like a ten to twelve year span right between 654 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 1: what the late seventies into the early nineties, right, So 655 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 1: that happens there and then rap goes commercial, right, so 656 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: you start seeing rap labels like Death Row and all THEI. 657 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: So this is relatively new. It's still a new game. 658 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: So when the South started coming around ninety six ninety seven, 659 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,760 Speaker 1: it wasn't until like that was that was y'all's seventy 660 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 1: nine to ninety from like ninety six to the five 661 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 1: oh six where it was like these take it. 662 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 3: Off and now you find our sound out. 663 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 1: Here everywhere, y'all dominate. To me, the South is the 664 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 1: greatest songwriters ever. The East Coast and the West Coast 665 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: are the greatest rappers ever, yes, but the South has 666 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: the greatest songwriters ever. Y'all make the greatest songs, the 667 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 1: best beats, the best hooks, the catchiest cadences. That is 668 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 1: from the South. 669 00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 3: So how does that way up with Drake in Future 670 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,320 Speaker 3: because Drake can out. I think Future can't rap like Drake, 671 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,879 Speaker 3: but Drake can't surf like Future. See Future is a 672 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:14,240 Speaker 3: surfer on these beats. He's a he's a hit maker, 673 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:15,359 Speaker 3: but in a different way. 674 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 2: So how do we deal with that? 675 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: Styles make fights, And in my opinion, that would be 676 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 1: a very unorthodox fight because of what you just explained. 677 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 1: And I don't know how how could I say, I 678 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: don't know how either one of them wins that. 679 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 3: Because the wind comes, here's the wind, and this is 680 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,720 Speaker 3: what Drake gotta be careful because here's the wind. 681 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 2: The wind is. 682 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 3: Can't nobody moved the boy and now don't come over there. 683 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 3: If if, if there's a real chance right now to 684 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 3: move the boy, you gonna see Yay. 685 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 2: Creep over there and try to see because. 686 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 1: I get that I'm the wind. 687 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 2: Is the boys spot becomes vacant. 688 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. I 689 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 1: don't know who wins because it's like bro, Future makes 690 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 1: some that have all of us singing this song, and 691 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 1: Draco makes some that have all of us singing this song. 692 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, so it's like it's like, 693 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 1: I don't know bruh, and I'm a fan of both 694 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,879 Speaker 1: of them. Two. Future is my favorite rapper right now. 695 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 1: He's right now, you know what I'm saying, and I 696 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 1: just I don't know. Oh, bro, I know one thing. 697 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: They better stay away from that Compton which one. 698 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 2: Oh now, Kendrick, what you think about that? 699 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 1: Better stay away from him? 700 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:10,919 Speaker 2: Why you think that? 701 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 1: Listen? 702 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 2: He I think he needs. 703 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 1: Future Listen, regardless to go at the boy man, regardless 704 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 1: of what you're saying. Okay, tell you, so, everybody stay 705 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 1: away from that man. Why you say that everybody stayed 706 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: away from that. 707 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 2: You're talking about lyrically? I know, I'm just he do 708 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:30,760 Speaker 2: a lot with them bars. 709 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 1: But we could put the bars in the corner. That's 710 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 1: one thing, Okay, talk to them. 711 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 2: And what else with. 712 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 1: Creativity and his performance, who he is as an artist, 713 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 1: who he is as a rapper, the way he can 714 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 1: play with his voice, the way he could change cadences 715 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:49,839 Speaker 1: in the middle of the. 716 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,439 Speaker 2: Case, we forget about the boy. 717 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 1: No, the boy is one of the cold we're not 718 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,839 Speaker 1: talking about. We're gonna get there. He wanted to coat. 719 00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is when it comes to that little 720 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 1: from Compton. 721 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 2: He a beast too. 722 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: He can say in the places he can go because 723 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 1: of what's behind him. Said, I got to teased with me. 724 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:19,280 Speaker 1: I'm snatching chains and burning to teases. Do your homework, 725 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 1: do your homework, do your home, your homework on to 726 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 1: t lead that little that's that's something you're gonna you 727 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 1: play with fire. You're gonna get regardless of the rapping 728 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,280 Speaker 1: and the hit making and. 729 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 2: Lead that is he a rapper. 730 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 1: To tease? 731 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 2: Oh no, okay, one of them guys. Okay, yeah, but you. 732 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 3: Know respectfully, the tow t's I know, to tea's if 733 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,880 Speaker 3: he ever been in the penitentiary, you got. 734 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 2: Them t's like that. 735 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:56,360 Speaker 1: I just heard that. 736 00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 2: But you got me and on our side. 737 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 3: Side here man, sure if it's got some monsters out here, 738 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 3: man and the boy has a powerful all these guys 739 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 3: a powerful men. 740 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 2: Stay stay after. 741 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 1: Bush Too much business and money, That's. 742 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:13,720 Speaker 2: What I'm saying. 743 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 3: So they stay on if it's stay on the pavement 744 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 3: and after Bushley, if it stay on the court, it's 745 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:19,399 Speaker 3: too much. 746 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, wherever it. 747 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 2: Goes, there is some respect. 748 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 3: You got to give Kendrick where he can go with it, 749 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:25,720 Speaker 3: like you say. 750 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 1: This is what I'm saying. This is what I'm saying. 751 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 1: Lead that that is what I'm saying that if we 752 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: listen to the first person shooter, right, first person Shooter 753 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:46,840 Speaker 1: sounds like street in the room. It's two in the 754 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 1: room and one about to walk in and two got 755 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:57,719 Speaker 1: they hand out and he shook one and walk right 756 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,799 Speaker 1: by the other Thannee. That's with that. Kendrick felt like 757 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 1: it felt like you left the door open and I 758 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 1: ain't say thank you. You know what I'm saying, Like 759 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:11,840 Speaker 1: it's a certain. 760 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:15,240 Speaker 2: You're talking about the sound he did with Metro with a. 761 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 1: Certain like that like that, Okay, it's a certain tone 762 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 1: that that rap with. 763 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,320 Speaker 2: So you're saying when Future you said Future and Metro 764 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 2: was in there cool and it's the energy is that 765 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 2: they was kind of cool and then Kendrick come in 766 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:30,760 Speaker 2: with the energy. 767 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,839 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no no. What I'm saying is when Drake and 768 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 1: Cole made First person Shooter, right, Cole say, uh, we're 769 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:45,799 Speaker 1: the big league me right, He's saying. Cole is including 770 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 1: Kendrick and saying it's us three. What I'm saying is 771 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 1: Kendrick walked in and said it's me right, Big three, 772 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:58,400 Speaker 1: It's me. And what I'm saying is when that type 773 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 1: of temperament and that ain't what the other two is 774 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,439 Speaker 1: kind of used to dealing with, leave that man. 775 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:08,960 Speaker 2: But see here's the thing. 776 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying I'm not taking those sides. 777 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 2: No, I'm just a hip hop conversations. They enjoyed real 778 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 2: hip hop in the house right now. 779 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 3: Looking at what I'm telling you, I was just going 780 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,760 Speaker 3: to tell you, Kendrick. 781 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:30,760 Speaker 5: Is surprise everybody gonna get surprised by. 782 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 1: They be clear, we're talking about three of the greatest ever. 783 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 2: And I'm a future to that mix. Bro, I'm a 784 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:38,439 Speaker 2: future to that mix. 785 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 5: Yet because they've clearly made they position clear for sure, 786 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,360 Speaker 5: something's happening over there for sure. 787 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 2: So they ain't playing. 788 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,359 Speaker 3: They ain't saying leave us out that the list got 789 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:48,919 Speaker 3: going on. 790 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,839 Speaker 1: Insert future That's what I'm saying. And you insert another dog, 791 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 1: future dog. 792 00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 2: None of them serve future dog of dog and came. 793 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 1: Just like we've we've publicly seen the big dog, the 794 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 1: boy like Brian from the Gold There what you push 795 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 1: because you're about to You're about to take me to 796 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 1: a place to where I get real money in these 797 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,320 Speaker 1: these high rises. You know what I'm saying, Like, that's 798 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,920 Speaker 1: bad for business if I take it to where I 799 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 1: gotta take it. 800 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 3: With that punching down though, what you mean with him 801 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 3: doing that will push it like I don't. 802 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:35,320 Speaker 1: Know it down because push came to him first. 803 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, but from a business perspective, he can't say that. 804 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:39,680 Speaker 3: The Kendrick, he can't. 805 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,839 Speaker 1: Say That's what I'm saying. So what I'm saying is 806 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,960 Speaker 1: if this happens, this rap civil war we are so 807 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 1: if this happens, gotta be ready to risk it all 808 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,880 Speaker 1: because that little Compton ain't playing. 809 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 2: So you said he gonn start going for the juggler. 810 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 1: He's not playing, Is what I'm saying is he's not playing. 811 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 1: If that knows some y'all don't want out there, Yeah 812 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 1: it's coming, he's not playing. Ain't no that beef. This 813 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 1: ain't no Oh we flayed is after this? I'm gonna 814 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,320 Speaker 1: call you, Oh you got that one? Bo This ain't 815 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 1: that so though, Terry and Wake is there with the 816 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,759 Speaker 1: Drake though. I don't think the drinking thing is that 817 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:36,040 Speaker 1: I know Dreamer. I'm talking mainly a call yeah, no raiders. 818 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,759 Speaker 1: I think what's gonna surprise him? Is calling rap click in. 819 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 1: I think that only click in y'all it if we're 820 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,719 Speaker 1: gonna do it, let's keep the mirror and it ain't 821 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,040 Speaker 1: nothing you can get on colling. What can you see? 822 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,360 Speaker 1: You never because with call and DoD, it's gonna be rapped. Yeah, 823 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,800 Speaker 1: I feel like with that and it's gonna persing it. 824 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:55,239 Speaker 3: Yeah. 825 00:45:55,560 --> 00:46:00,680 Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying, Like I don't things that's 826 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 1: tough on both sides. Everybody bosses, everybody rich, they all 827 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 1: look up to these. I'm where I'm at because of these, 828 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So just as a fed 829 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,600 Speaker 1: of all three of these, studying lost thrill every day, 830 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep adding future to that shit ain't two 831 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 1: or three four four four. I'm what I'm speaking just lyrically, right, Yeah, 832 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 1: some and the respects respect she's thinks some of the Yeah. Yeah, 833 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,960 Speaker 1: and that's the truth. I think when they come to 834 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 1: that Bruck and Gold places that a lot of people 835 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:41,400 Speaker 1: can't go. But it's disrespect hip hop is that boy 836 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 1: were talking about balls were talking. I'm not talking about 837 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 1: those street what disrespect. I'm saying that he can get 838 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,960 Speaker 1: a safe right just to ums and all the way 839 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 1: he will save you right type the way he'll set 840 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,440 Speaker 1: it up. Because people on the end of that are 841 00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,919 Speaker 1: arguing that the like that verse at the hardest verse 842 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 1: in the world. Are you seeing that native? I ain't 843 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,799 Speaker 1: seen that. Yeah, that's moving around people that I don't see. 844 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,360 Speaker 1: Nobody says the hardest verse in the world is just 845 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:15,360 Speaker 1: direct people. It's it's what playing with me? Yes, he 846 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,800 Speaker 1: will see Quick playing with property wild especially something that 847 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,080 Speaker 1: calder know whiggas is awesome. 848 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:23,040 Speaker 2: Is he beefing with or not? 849 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,719 Speaker 1: He will said that was still a taping. You know 850 00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Right, We're gonna leave up and take 851 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:32,120 Speaker 1: the dinner picture, right, you know what I'm that that 852 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:38,680 Speaker 1: dinner Quick playing with me? What playing with me? And 853 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,600 Speaker 1: that's the energy real ain't seen it. All's best known. 854 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:45,160 Speaker 1: He's that caliber at a long target. And what I'm 855 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,759 Speaker 1: saying is so with the cylinder red RESD side, do 856 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 1: you think creatively takes it? Because we got we got 857 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 1: the gun. I'm telling you, man over here, the future 858 00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,399 Speaker 1: is what's gonna call the rule man, old dude gets 859 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 1: aside as much as everybody's pedaluve de beat, I don't 860 00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,799 Speaker 1: think it's this future Kendrick versus Drew Cole and Drake thing. 861 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 1: I think. I think it's a future Metro and Kendrick 862 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,880 Speaker 1: is a I think I can see the future Metro, 863 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 1: future Metro and and see your enemy, any of my 864 00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,759 Speaker 1: any of my enemy is my friend. You see what 865 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So in this music, that's why you see 866 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 1: Kendrick jump on that. This is the other thing, like, yeah, 867 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,640 Speaker 1: this is a vientitent thing. Bro we talking about We're 868 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,640 Speaker 1: talking about four people. That's a hundred million. Yeah, and 869 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,880 Speaker 1: that's gonna be a dope. I'm just saying it's gonna 870 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,160 Speaker 1: be a dope betteraction. I think it'd be dope. If 871 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,560 Speaker 1: Jane cole next album got a soul produced by Metro 872 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:45,279 Speaker 1: featuring future Kendrick and Drake me too. But that ain't 873 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 1: gonna have her, I know it. Yeah it so if 874 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,359 Speaker 1: we if we deal with if we did, if we're 875 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,640 Speaker 1: dealing with what what? What the narratives are? They have 876 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,880 Speaker 1: the raps in the rude, so they have the side 877 00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,319 Speaker 1: of Drake and they have the Dirks on that side. 878 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,799 Speaker 1: You know they got they shit on this side, but 879 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:08,400 Speaker 1: on this side you got future Yay Playboy Cardy tryanvis Scott. 880 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 1: It's getting, It's sit is getting, it's getting slippery, bro 881 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:19,759 Speaker 1: and creative. Yet I don't think nobody hurts except Drake. 882 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying except future. For Drake, I think he I 883 00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:28,799 Speaker 1: think in his mind Kutrick's already been a problem and 884 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,600 Speaker 1: at some point this may be a thing. I think 885 00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 1: he's already thought that. I believe him. And Cold. He 886 00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,799 Speaker 1: feels like Cole has been neutralized. So you see what 887 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying, big Shaw, it is gone. He's somebody that 888 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,920 Speaker 1: was in the picture long side. So he's like, I'm 889 00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,839 Speaker 1: here now I'm in the spot. It ain't nobody else. 890 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,160 Speaker 1: I'm worried. I'm I'm I'm I'm dealing with but now 891 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,040 Speaker 1: future and I've been on the wrong. I believe it's 892 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,719 Speaker 1: just a thing, Bro, I think well as a hip 893 00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 1: hop fe I'm just here for it me too. I'm 894 00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,920 Speaker 1: ready to enjoy it. I'm not here to pick a side. 895 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,960 Speaker 1: I don't know everybody personally like that. I'm fans of 896 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,480 Speaker 1: all four, you know what I'm saying. So I'm just 897 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:10,440 Speaker 1: sitting down enjoying it. And we want to see what appened. 898 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 1: What about We'll see what appened? Do you think do 899 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:17,360 Speaker 1: you think do you ever feeling Ray or do you 900 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,120 Speaker 1: feel like Drey is ever close signed the black artists 901 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,880 Speaker 1: and the way he did Eminem, doctor d Yeah, doctor 902 00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:29,280 Speaker 1: Dre Yeah. Snooped up. That's a good one. That was first, 903 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:34,719 Speaker 1: and that was first. That was a good exhibit exhibit. 904 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,719 Speaker 1: But that's another one that's been a lot of them 905 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,640 Speaker 1: eat seed. But I can really say em Ward into 906 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:46,200 Speaker 1: he he poured into Snoopy Poor. I think I think 907 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:50,200 Speaker 1: Drake pours into a lot of artists. Bro. I think 908 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:56,480 Speaker 1: the thing is some people just ate the star that 909 00:50:56,480 --> 00:51:00,279 Speaker 1: Snoop Bad was, or that Eminem was, or fifty cent was, 910 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,960 Speaker 1: or Kendrick Lenoir was, or it just wasn't the star, 911 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,800 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's a lot in the NBA. 912 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,080 Speaker 1: But dang Lebron James, right, you know what I mean, 913 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,960 Speaker 1: Like they ain't Steph Curry still in the lead. Right, 914 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:19,160 Speaker 1: Did Dre Philler ray about you saying you were better 915 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:23,720 Speaker 1: than Emine? We never talked about it. We never talked 916 00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,880 Speaker 1: about it. You think he sensitive of an Eminem in 917 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:30,239 Speaker 1: that way? I don't even know. I don't know. And 918 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 1: he whatever, he was liver too talk about it. I 919 00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:37,239 Speaker 1: would explain the conversation, because the conversation was definitely cut 920 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,120 Speaker 1: up in a clip that made it look like I 921 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,360 Speaker 1: just went at Eminem and that wasn't the case. What 922 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,799 Speaker 1: happened was he was at Remote World and he was 923 00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,279 Speaker 1: asked to make a top ten list of our top 924 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:53,360 Speaker 1: ten favorite rappers. So somebody asked me, how was a 925 00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:58,080 Speaker 1: specific name in my list? And Eminem wasn't in my list, 926 00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:02,520 Speaker 1: and I felt like the person who was was a 927 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:06,080 Speaker 1: better rapper in my opinion. That doesn't make it true. 928 00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,560 Speaker 1: This is my opinion. You know what I'm saying. So 929 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,480 Speaker 1: I was speaking from my opinion, and then somebody in 930 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,880 Speaker 1: the crowd, you know what I'm saying, I don't know 931 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,400 Speaker 1: your music like that. So I was like rapper Eminem 932 00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:20,040 Speaker 1: verse and she couldn't you know what I'm saying, So 933 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,040 Speaker 1: it looked weird on camera. Don the weirdness and what 934 00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:27,080 Speaker 1: they would me. I was like, Okay, you copim right. 935 00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:32,040 Speaker 1: He shouldn't know me. I'm literally you well, rub. So 936 00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,480 Speaker 1: it wasn't like I was going at I or like that, 937 00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,239 Speaker 1: because I got a lot of respect for Ivan Bro 938 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,600 Speaker 1: that one of the coders I was asked to my 939 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:44,240 Speaker 1: top ten rappers and based off that list is people 940 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,160 Speaker 1: that I was inspired by and people are related to 941 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:51,200 Speaker 1: growing up. I didn't necessarily relate to Eminem like that, 942 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:55,759 Speaker 1: but one could say that this guy who you just 943 00:52:55,920 --> 00:53:02,319 Speaker 1: named that little competent. Yeah, there is an element of 944 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:06,400 Speaker 1: that Eminem guy that lives in that style that that 945 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:11,719 Speaker 1: Kendrick as. There's also that in Royster five nine. Yeah, 946 00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,840 Speaker 1: oh boy, budd, if you have so high regard for Kendrick, 947 00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,279 Speaker 1: because I'm biased and probably relate to Kendrick more than 948 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,800 Speaker 1: I do it it's the content. Yeah, I probably relate 949 00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:23,759 Speaker 1: to Kendrick a lot more than not that. It's just 950 00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:28,560 Speaker 1: his style makes me feel that he's better because I 951 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,440 Speaker 1: relate more, Right, that's me. It's my think, right, you 952 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,279 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That doesn't make it the fact 953 00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,040 Speaker 1: for somebody else to relate to in the room war, say, 954 00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,759 Speaker 1: kendridgain't as good as Eminem. That's their opinion. But to 955 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,440 Speaker 1: me do it? What do you think you get out 956 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:51,040 Speaker 1: wrapped Eminem before arap just us a soul rabbit? Yeah, 957 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,520 Speaker 1: solely right, I think I can. I wan one hundred 958 00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,920 Speaker 1: percent think I can. I don't think I'm gonna do 959 00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:01,239 Speaker 1: the butter but up by but that ain't what I do. Yeah, 960 00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:02,799 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So if you're talking about 961 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,480 Speaker 1: rapid fast, he's gonna kick my ass. And anytime does 962 00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:10,440 Speaker 1: that same more effective depends on its listening, depends on not. 963 00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,880 Speaker 1: Because if we in a room for the people that 964 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,320 Speaker 1: want to hear that, that's what they want to hear it. 965 00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 1: If we're in a ruin so that like smack you 966 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:25,000 Speaker 1: or ill, they probably gonna side with me. Yeah, So 967 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,840 Speaker 1: you you think you got that type vibe? I just 968 00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,279 Speaker 1: know that I would say yeah, yeah, and I know 969 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,080 Speaker 1: where I would take it because I would know what 970 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,920 Speaker 1: I would be up again. Yeah, so soon that I 971 00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:39,200 Speaker 1: would say would be so relatable and say petal to 972 00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:45,719 Speaker 1: how we feel it. It would strike a nerve, you 973 00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,719 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So, no matter what he say, 974 00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:54,319 Speaker 1: we feel yeah, intensionately about certain Yeah. Some people just 975 00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,200 Speaker 1: can't say I kill you, Yes, and I would have 976 00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:01,719 Speaker 1: to go that be no. Yeah, you what if he 977 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,760 Speaker 1: came down two weeks? So would you entertain a bag? 978 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,800 Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to because he's he's one of my legends. 979 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,960 Speaker 1: He's wored the legends for sure. Bust Morow was one 980 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,399 Speaker 1: of the legends. Jay z one of the legends, Joe 981 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:20,600 Speaker 1: Buden with all the legends. No, damn us, that's the 982 00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:24,080 Speaker 1: Rivers before eminem because that's really that style too. That's 983 00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,479 Speaker 1: that's that. Busses bust on my top team. Yeah, Boss 984 00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:32,440 Speaker 1: wasn't the wrong. Yeah, buses crazy like these are mine? 985 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,280 Speaker 1: You like Button too? Yeah? Button one of the coldest 986 00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,840 Speaker 1: to ever pick up a pinion. Yeah, I don't know 987 00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 1: soul making, just on some straight bars looking rapping. Came 988 00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:50,080 Speaker 1: up bluing like one of the colders. But I feel 989 00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,719 Speaker 1: that's that. That's a good conversation. Butdon made it to 990 00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:57,440 Speaker 1: the and and you know, I like me. Buddon was 991 00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:01,480 Speaker 1: Drake before Drake with the boors to me Button with 992 00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,040 Speaker 1: old Buddon was Drake before Drake with the bars, with 993 00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,200 Speaker 1: the bars now he's like, give me some rap now, 994 00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,280 Speaker 1: I still saw him, Yeah, give me rap. It's seeing 995 00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,600 Speaker 1: mister Redfords talking about the emotional he said with Wall 996 00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:13,839 Speaker 1: you got any kind of like not right off the roof, 997 00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,520 Speaker 1: like the whole up music out out the play up 998 00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,680 Speaker 1: a lot of his right now. But we've just been 999 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,719 Speaker 1: smoking it's all week. Glad. I can't believe na. Nah, 1000 00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:26,200 Speaker 1: that's cool, but Budden was the first I heard rapping 1001 00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,560 Speaker 1: about his girl cheating on them and how it made 1002 00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:32,000 Speaker 1: him feel and he makestre inside of being vulnerable and 1003 00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,200 Speaker 1: that we thought wasn't cool to say. He was the 1004 00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,719 Speaker 1: first show he unlocked that. Yeah, like he hear Drake 1005 00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:43,000 Speaker 1: said like Joel saying you can do bad. That's a 1006 00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:47,800 Speaker 1: singing version of the Joe used to rap, you know 1007 00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:53,360 Speaker 1: what I mean. So it's like that was the first 1008 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:58,759 Speaker 1: person I heard like rap it about being broke, not 1009 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,120 Speaker 1: being broke on some sl ain't a dope bowl, cornish 1010 00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,960 Speaker 1: trying to get this money, like ah, SOMEO, I'm depressed 1011 00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,120 Speaker 1: and I'm wearing peetles and I'm s up and don't 1012 00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:14,000 Speaker 1: both hm, I'm sitting in the house depressed. He was 1013 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:19,480 Speaker 1: the first heard like put fully who he was like 1014 00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,760 Speaker 1: and out there like this. I'm like like he thought, 1015 00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:26,200 Speaker 1: whizzed cool? Right, because the rap stigma like here, like 1016 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,520 Speaker 1: long Tims, you would never say my girl she's moving 1017 00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:32,240 Speaker 1: me up. Joe done that, Ya done that. So a 1018 00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,640 Speaker 1: lot of people brought in the glimp of rap stigma. 1019 00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:40,040 Speaker 1: Now yeah, you know because the rapper yo fili he asks, 1020 00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,240 Speaker 1: they play a big part in that you. Yeah, cuse 1021 00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:50,200 Speaker 1: from hour I'm saying like that real vnerabluey emotionless. Let 1022 00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,200 Speaker 1: me see who else can we can we get like 1023 00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:56,040 Speaker 1: ya did to a certains didn't be like Joe used 1024 00:57:56,080 --> 00:58:00,320 Speaker 1: to really cry or songs you hell what her? He 1025 00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:04,439 Speaker 1: was here, Jay, you were here, j till beep you door. 1026 00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:09,120 Speaker 1: So just because you crie unnecessary about like that's real, 1027 00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,840 Speaker 1: that's ruined well. And I even know one thing that 1028 00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,360 Speaker 1: y'all's own by his baby moms. Can't remember your name 1029 00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:16,760 Speaker 1: of the song of fund and take it to you 1030 00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:18,760 Speaker 1: had a song about his baby mom. You can hear that. 1031 00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:23,880 Speaker 1: You can hear it the frustrations like he grew through. 1032 00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,880 Speaker 1: And I don't know just that is thought like damn, 1033 00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,320 Speaker 1: I feel it. I didn't felt this way about it 1034 00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:33,360 Speaker 1: woman before, but I ain't never told nobody. Yeah, see 1035 00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:37,680 Speaker 1: one thing about Joe, He's very relatable to his fans, 1036 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,160 Speaker 1: So I can believe that even though in the South, 1037 00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:42,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if he made it as far in 1038 00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,560 Speaker 1: the impact as much as I'm interested in how we 1039 00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,320 Speaker 1: crept way out here because it couldn't have been had 1040 00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:52,200 Speaker 1: I was. I was just a East Classt fluenced rat. 1041 00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,560 Speaker 1: But I didn't grow up listening to a lot of 1042 00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,120 Speaker 1: West Coast rat. I grew up listening to the best 1043 00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:02,439 Speaker 1: of West Coast Rat. So ther t t seem mag 1044 00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:06,840 Speaker 1: I didn't just grow up listening the underground look like 1045 00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:10,400 Speaker 1: underground from the east, right. But I think this is 1046 00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:16,520 Speaker 1: a good conversation. So Drake and Joe, Yeah, so what 1047 00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:18,320 Speaker 1: do you think about when they get into it and 1048 00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:20,960 Speaker 1: Joe and Drake tells him like, Yo, come on man, 1049 00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:24,200 Speaker 1: you I think that's why because I think at one 1050 00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:28,160 Speaker 1: point in time Drake respected Joe as a lyricist. So 1051 00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:32,280 Speaker 1: when Joe says if with Drake, because it's like it 1052 00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,480 Speaker 1: ain't like Joe just said up the street you know 1053 00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:39,360 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's right, any say what they gonna say. 1054 00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:44,160 Speaker 1: But it's like it's you like, feel me like I 1055 00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,320 Speaker 1: looked up to you, bro, Like don't do me right 1056 00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,680 Speaker 1: that you say like people looked up to Joe? Or 1057 00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:53,080 Speaker 1: is Joe only we playing this have Joe Joe's key narrative? 1058 00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,840 Speaker 1: So is Joe only playing his influence on Drake? Oh? 1059 00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,880 Speaker 1: Thinking now, because I think Drink said it itself, Yes, 1060 01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:04,040 Speaker 1: Dre saying to yourself, Drake, well, let me give your followers. 1061 01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:06,880 Speaker 1: I looked up to you, but a lot of when 1062 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,120 Speaker 1: they trying to get in this guard was a rat. 1063 01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:13,640 Speaker 1: Ain't gonna say some like bro. I could see. I 1064 01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:17,240 Speaker 1: just said a lot of the rat. But I ain't 1065 01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:20,840 Speaker 1: never said no that they have some sort of truth 1066 01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,320 Speaker 1: in it. Yeah, but you ain't no Canada, dude, big 1067 01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:26,080 Speaker 1: fire yourself. You know what I'm saying that you can 1068 01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:30,120 Speaker 1: hear that Joe Button in early Drake, it needs different. 1069 01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,560 Speaker 1: If that sounded like a whole other nigga and got 1070 01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:35,440 Speaker 1: in front of Joe Button, it was nervous and just 1071 01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,760 Speaker 1: what to you can hear what it is. Always Rake 1072 01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:41,120 Speaker 1: came deny that Joe Budden he said it, But I'm 1073 01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,360 Speaker 1: saying today, if they had to go back and forth, 1074 01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:46,440 Speaker 1: he can't deny the fact that Joe influenced he You 1075 01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:49,000 Speaker 1: don't know that he can't. Then, as an avid listener 1076 01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:50,919 Speaker 1: of hip hop, can he didn't see it. I don't 1077 01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,400 Speaker 1: think as real as Drake is, I don't think he 1078 01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:57,120 Speaker 1: would deny that, right. I don't think he would said it. Yeah, yeah, 1079 01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,600 Speaker 1: he said he's sett in his soul that Grima was 1080 01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:03,720 Speaker 1: looking up the button. You know what he's said, Oh, 1081 01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:06,280 Speaker 1: that's dope. So it's not like he just said it 1082 01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,479 Speaker 1: for the Joe. He never ardered to get. He's said 1083 01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:12,200 Speaker 1: the over and over. So this is a thing. Damn 1084 01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,800 Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't know the extent of that. I'm 1085 01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:19,280 Speaker 1: always just mentioning it and hinder Like it's like if 1086 01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:23,320 Speaker 1: you start talking about searching from your neighborhood and streets 1087 01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:29,080 Speaker 1: or fill away you right, It's like if when Lebron 1088 01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:32,120 Speaker 1: criticized another player. That's why as a rapper, Oh, I'm 1089 01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,880 Speaker 1: talking about a lot of rappers, a lot because it's me. 1090 01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:41,000 Speaker 1: It's broad. It's right, you the one that knowing we 1091 01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,960 Speaker 1: go through. But that's why your boys is palers when 1092 01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:47,960 Speaker 1: I'm learning this through my athlete friends, my NFL, NBA guys, 1093 01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:52,200 Speaker 1: is that the athletes are noticing that without their representation 1094 01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:56,920 Speaker 1: on these narratives or on these insights, because white, it 1095 01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,240 Speaker 1: could be too square sitting while you're having a conversation 1096 01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:04,040 Speaker 1: about dre and something narrative. So it's important that you 1097 01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:08,000 Speaker 1: aren't present in them conversations about the rap playsure because 1098 01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,720 Speaker 1: you're speaking for the rapper. Like how you just hear 1099 01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:15,520 Speaker 1: Pindrick in position agains you know all of that trying 1100 01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:17,800 Speaker 1: to No man, now think about this. Look what he 1101 01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,560 Speaker 1: can go with it. It's important. Only a rap up 1102 01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:24,480 Speaker 1: brain can give that, you know. So y'all feeding, y'all feeding. 1103 01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:28,160 Speaker 1: They actually sometimes like as artists, Bro, he be sensitive 1104 01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:31,280 Speaker 1: about our Now I'm I'm sensitive about my I just 1105 01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:36,600 Speaker 1: know I heard certain as about me interviews. It ain't 1106 01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,600 Speaker 1: necessarily right, but I understood it, you know what I mean. 1107 01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:42,840 Speaker 1: But everybody ain't got thick skined like me. You know 1108 01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:46,880 Speaker 1: what I mean, right, So I'm I'm empathetic to that. 1109 01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:49,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. Man, I try to get a game 1110 01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:51,520 Speaker 1: and like the way no I get it dead. They 1111 01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,959 Speaker 1: always get gag. Yeah, I the lost fiddles forgiving gang 1112 01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:57,400 Speaker 1: be thinking I'm bragging and I really just trying to 1113 01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:00,800 Speaker 1: tell it's some gay while they could bury it. Yeah, 1114 01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:02,880 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I'm always gonna give game. 1115 01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:07,720 Speaker 1: But I understand as me and Bro, we want to 1116 01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:09,880 Speaker 1: be the providers. He wanted to be the protectors. He 1117 01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:13,080 Speaker 1: want to be the most that give people the information. 1118 01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:16,200 Speaker 1: So sometimes as an alpha male, you can take away 1119 01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,880 Speaker 1: ability to be a man in the room. You feel 1120 01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:23,240 Speaker 1: me because and that, like you say, in a small city, 1121 01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,000 Speaker 1: he could be the man, you know what I'm saying. 1122 01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:27,880 Speaker 1: Or in this small woman, he could be the man 1123 01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:31,280 Speaker 1: when you come away, you start talking all this fascist, 1124 01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:35,280 Speaker 1: this information, and you take you dim his light. Yes, 1125 01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:37,760 Speaker 1: and now he felt like he not as powerful as 1126 01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:42,600 Speaker 1: he wants worse. So I've been learning to have empathy 1127 01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:44,960 Speaker 1: for that, and now look at it like a yeah, 1128 01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:49,960 Speaker 1: a hater. This is a male trait. As males, we 1129 01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:53,600 Speaker 1: feel less than between provide, we feel less once. You've 1130 01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:56,560 Speaker 1: gotta get all, but you gotta appreciate being a begginner. 1131 01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:01,160 Speaker 1: I have to teach mysel as this right, because understanding 1132 01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:05,840 Speaker 1: the process is so important. Don't never ever forget and 1133 01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,960 Speaker 1: and run away from being a beginner rapping in the 1134 01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:13,400 Speaker 1: boxing boxing uh GM and anybody else looking that cilis 1135 01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:17,080 Speaker 1: and you badly got your little jab, your climsy. Don't 1136 01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:20,520 Speaker 1: worry about that because he niny is it. You don't 1137 01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:23,600 Speaker 1: need to see the process home. Don't never run from 1138 01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:27,200 Speaker 1: being a beginner at that street follow You get so 1139 01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:31,160 Speaker 1: much glory with this lifestyle. So many women wrong about you, 1140 01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:34,960 Speaker 1: saying what's going on? You can never whatever runs from 1141 01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:38,680 Speaker 1: say yo, I'm not him over here, bro, but I 1142 01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:43,280 Speaker 1: can beat him over here bruh, I'm tweeting that that's dope, 1143 01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:51,720 Speaker 1: then that's all real. Yeah, don't ever run from being 1144 01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:55,640 Speaker 1: a beginner, because you could never. That's that's how we 1145 01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:57,000 Speaker 1: was a beginner at some point. 1146 01:04:57,400 --> 01:04:58,040 Speaker 2: You one of them. 1147 01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:00,880 Speaker 1: They can rap right now and I'm in it's up. 1148 01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,480 Speaker 1: You was to begin at some point. So if you 1149 01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:08,320 Speaker 1: got rap, you blast rap. I ever wrote crazy. Ain't 1150 01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,760 Speaker 1: no game like that South Berkeley game. This is my 1151 01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,640 Speaker 1: first wrapping up during my thing got my man JB 1152 01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,440 Speaker 1: and my ipe man dame to on the West Side storage, 1153 01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,520 Speaker 1: but this ain't game. Hey, if you're bab you rab 1154 01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:21,840 Speaker 1: Bacon to day was first rep you know, and I'm 1155 01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,000 Speaker 1: living with music. I'm nut something that's in the industry. 1156 01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,520 Speaker 1: People don't know. These are Easterns. Some of my fans know, 1157 01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:28,720 Speaker 1: like if they real fan lo now they know not 1158 01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:30,960 Speaker 1: they don't know how to do really do one of 1159 01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,800 Speaker 1: them guys? They don't know because I don't pop it. 1160 01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:35,720 Speaker 1: I don't even talk about it. But here's the thing. 1161 01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:40,800 Speaker 1: Everybody's first couple of reps with the game, and like 1162 01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:44,360 Speaker 1: it was something about it that attracted the rap either though, 1163 01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:47,400 Speaker 1: why that you find the rhyme as easy as to 1164 01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:52,560 Speaker 1: run right. So it's like game dame. If I actually 1165 01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:56,120 Speaker 1: were rhymes with dog, you so fg right there are 1166 01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:58,800 Speaker 1: easy right. If I actually wore rhymes with water, you 1167 01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:02,560 Speaker 1: can say, carter fact, you were rhymes with datorade, hay 1168 01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:05,080 Speaker 1: the raide not even a real word, right, but that 1169 01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:08,720 Speaker 1: sends you. That's out a month, right, right, that's a 1170 01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:12,440 Speaker 1: harder word to rhyme. Yes, So rap went from brinken 1171 01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:16,240 Speaker 1: glass everywhere. People walking down the street like they just 1172 01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:19,240 Speaker 1: don't care to. I ain't no joke. I used to 1173 01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,560 Speaker 1: let the mic smoke, now slim it over the floor 1174 01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:25,120 Speaker 1: every time it's broke to uh. I'm not a bite. 1175 01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:27,480 Speaker 1: I'm a writer for myself and others. I say a 1176 01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:30,360 Speaker 1: big verse. I know big enough, my brother big enough, 1177 01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:32,840 Speaker 1: my belly big enough to do it. I'm not terrible 1178 01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:36,880 Speaker 1: because I know my own flow was foolish. So as 1179 01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:40,400 Speaker 1: we evan, we get better that we're going now to 1180 01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:44,000 Speaker 1: That's one thing about DIGJ. They better stop playing about 1181 01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:46,720 Speaker 1: Come on Dad with Ryan, this with Dad in the 1182 01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:50,200 Speaker 1: next one. That other MONSU didn't even see a colored 1183 01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:52,200 Speaker 1: But I say all that to say we would start 1184 01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:55,680 Speaker 1: with theirs easy as words, because we were beginners, right, 1185 01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:58,320 Speaker 1: and as you get better, you start trying to rib 1186 01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:01,919 Speaker 1: so dinge. Then you start learning, Oh I could ride 1187 01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,600 Speaker 1: what's in the run. So now I'm going from I 1188 01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:07,520 Speaker 1: met my man Dane, went to the game just for fame, 1189 01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:10,360 Speaker 1: that we drinking Jane for the plane on the day, 1190 01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:13,240 Speaker 1: now through my day right from the bang your bag 1191 01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,800 Speaker 1: let me bang, right he said, Now you you could 1192 01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:21,960 Speaker 1: place oping it? Oh yeah, yeah, I mean it's so respecting. 1193 01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:25,160 Speaker 1: The beginner side of things is so important. Right, That's 1194 01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:28,000 Speaker 1: why I say, like I tell my children, bro, y'all 1195 01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:31,400 Speaker 1: have to know the journey. If don't never walk from 1196 01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:36,120 Speaker 1: that because even the Wien favors the people that know 1197 01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:38,960 Speaker 1: where they're selling. Right. So if you even if you 1198 01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:41,720 Speaker 1: own the ship, say your ship is the best ship 1199 01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:43,760 Speaker 1: in the world, but you let them know you don't 1200 01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:45,520 Speaker 1: know where you're going. You don't know. I gotta go 1201 01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:48,440 Speaker 1: all the way exhausts to see her to get the 1202 01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:52,280 Speaker 1: way I'm going. And if you don't consider that, it's 1203 01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,880 Speaker 1: going to be a long six week And said you done, 1204 01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:59,480 Speaker 1: you done, done for results overnight, bro results Tay talking 1205 01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:02,960 Speaker 1: zose Tate Town. That was why I named the album, right, 1206 01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:07,200 Speaker 1: I remember that take real talk it's dope. Hold on, 1207 01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:11,320 Speaker 1: I'm trying to call somebody. Just don't happen overnight, right, 1208 01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:13,760 Speaker 1: It just don't happen overnight, and people we wanted to 1209 01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,400 Speaker 1: happen overnight. It's like, Nah, you gotta really work for me, 1210 01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:19,680 Speaker 1: right right? What do you what do you see? Do 1211 01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:22,280 Speaker 1: respect you have for jay Z, jay Z or Tupac 1212 01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:30,240 Speaker 1: as a rapper, rapper, jay Z artists, jay Z overall? 1213 01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,680 Speaker 1: Hold on, you got jay Z as a park as 1214 01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:43,160 Speaker 1: an artist? Yeah, dear Mama, Yeah, hell Mary California love. 1215 01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:47,320 Speaker 1: You got jay Z over park as an artist becomes 1216 01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:49,840 Speaker 1: of his men music or it's not. Ain't that something 1217 01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:54,320 Speaker 1: who made? To me, he made bigger records. We're not 1218 01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:56,920 Speaker 1: talking about the bending behind the music. I'm talking about 1219 01:08:57,000 --> 01:09:01,599 Speaker 1: the artist streamer. Come about straight bigger records like and see. 1220 01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:04,800 Speaker 1: I hate doing this because it feel like I'm disrespecting Poac, 1221 01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:07,080 Speaker 1: which is one of my favorites. Nah, doing that. This 1222 01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:09,400 Speaker 1: is the hip hop conversations that the Street My Bad, 1223 01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:13,920 Speaker 1: that the Streets Need were talking about. Now. I think 1224 01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:18,479 Speaker 1: Pock is one of the greatest songwriters ever, whether it's rap. 1225 01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:21,880 Speaker 1: So we fit in the katrees because you're telling me 1226 01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:24,120 Speaker 1: Jay is better than him, and I disagree with that. 1227 01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:27,439 Speaker 1: I think Jay made digger records. So I think when 1228 01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:32,679 Speaker 1: we talk about records like fear Coming, THEMN is Kanye, 1229 01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:35,559 Speaker 1: She'll love me as Yay. Okay, even when we talk 1230 01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:38,120 Speaker 1: about records like December fourth. But if I'm giving you 1231 01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:41,960 Speaker 1: talk about records like dirt off your Shoulders. We talk 1232 01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:45,280 Speaker 1: about records like ninety nine Problems, we talk about records 1233 01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:47,960 Speaker 1: like h to the Isle. We talk about records like 1234 01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:50,960 Speaker 1: never Children. When we talk about records like Girls, Girls, 1235 01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:55,160 Speaker 1: Girls Still, Brad deal, Mama, I'm what's the women with 1236 01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:57,760 Speaker 1: John b out of his end? These songs are no 1237 01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:02,240 Speaker 1: competitise songs. Brad Blenda's got a baby to me? I disagree. Okay, 1238 01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:04,760 Speaker 1: help me, Let's deal with the Let's deal with to say. 1239 01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:06,800 Speaker 1: You're just saying, just because of the flavor, you don't 1240 01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:12,040 Speaker 1: even got amazing. I'm saying, stylistically, hook wise, beat selection, 1241 01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,720 Speaker 1: the Overalls song give Me something that compared a lot 1242 01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:18,720 Speaker 1: of a lot of times Park's songs was better than 1243 01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:24,959 Speaker 1: his beats. That's right, you feel me Never Forget. Takeover 1244 01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:29,720 Speaker 1: was a way better song than Ether. Ether just had 1245 01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:33,960 Speaker 1: the shock value. If we're talking about song, the beat, 1246 01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:39,320 Speaker 1: the root and the warmack, the concept, the content. It's 1247 01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:42,519 Speaker 1: not a lot of people only way come this song 1248 01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:44,560 Speaker 1: making as a rap and I'm gonna better with you 1249 01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:47,200 Speaker 1: having to take better. I'm gonna say the NAS song, 1250 01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:50,120 Speaker 1: the Ether song has that effect that you say, Kendrick 1251 01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:53,920 Speaker 1: I have on Drake, which is the way with them. 1252 01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:57,439 Speaker 1: It was the day it was direct and the beat 1253 01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:02,000 Speaker 1: was so it was direct. Rooms that makes take better 1254 01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:05,160 Speaker 1: than that because I also was that. Yeah, it was dope. 1255 01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:08,360 Speaker 1: He went down and you know, yeah that's dudes. Well 1256 01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:13,439 Speaker 1: we go to it to either Korean Philip Jerdon's s 1257 01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:19,240 Speaker 1: yeah cheap best saying right you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1258 01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:27,080 Speaker 1: yeah that that Takeover produced it's different. Yeah, so that's 1259 01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:30,720 Speaker 1: what like his records, Like we talk about records or 1260 01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:32,400 Speaker 1: for but I don't even know how what other guys 1261 01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:36,120 Speaker 1: don't talk too much sometimes really said we talked too much. 1262 01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:38,320 Speaker 1: So they ran down to talk is to sellthing booze 1263 01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:41,080 Speaker 1: to trust all over. They thought the foul just like 1264 01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:45,160 Speaker 1: us and that beat. Yeah. But see here's the thing. 1265 01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:48,479 Speaker 1: Back in the day, would park somebody he with the 1266 01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:52,760 Speaker 1: content that just speak about and and no that's why 1267 01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:56,040 Speaker 1: I see it and all read old is in soul 1268 01:11:56,120 --> 01:12:00,400 Speaker 1: writing is still the greatest ever. So if we dealing 1269 01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:05,960 Speaker 1: with Jay and part from that perspectives, like imagine how 1270 01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:09,439 Speaker 1: Pop's selling it over that out of being a fresh 1271 01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:11,640 Speaker 1: out of Jill telling if morning to dreaming and as 1272 01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:17,200 Speaker 1: I stepped in and seeing him here, imagines that that's 1273 01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:20,639 Speaker 1: still going now see what I'm saying. The production, Yeah, 1274 01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:25,439 Speaker 1: the quality, yeah I still got. I still have part 1275 01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:30,280 Speaker 1: that would ask because yeah, yeah that myself, but dude, 1276 01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:34,000 Speaker 1: it all through it. Yeah then I Gordy, all that 1277 01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:37,719 Speaker 1: tiggy and all in my needle and part my neative 1278 01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:40,920 Speaker 1: exactly that ain't no changes. Looking in the morning, I 1279 01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:44,120 Speaker 1: asked myself his life when the flip should I've blessed myself. 1280 01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:45,800 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to be a point even there are some 1281 01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:48,120 Speaker 1: black My stomach hurts, so I'm looking for him burst 1282 01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,639 Speaker 1: the sname gay at the Joe. I'm giving that the pot. 1283 01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:52,080 Speaker 2: That's e mo. 1284 01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:55,719 Speaker 1: We ain't never hear of pot cry over a female. 1285 01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:59,600 Speaker 1: That's true. I was over there showing the movie. He 1286 01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:02,559 Speaker 1: got there. They got Georgeoe. I mean Punk had that 1287 01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:09,639 Speaker 1: uh pocket chicken. But y'all scandalous yet checond yeah, well yeah, 1288 01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:12,080 Speaker 1: you feel me. Joe and him was where Rigs got 1289 01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:14,559 Speaker 1: a baby was so emo though, but when it's got 1290 01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:17,519 Speaker 1: a baby's body will tight and wow, yeah you ain't 1291 01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:20,800 Speaker 1: about his dreams seated Alright, they got win it bout 1292 01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:24,280 Speaker 1: and they want to fight that Joe Nen would take 1293 01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:27,559 Speaker 1: it there man, that's a crazy conversation. They would take 1294 01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:31,120 Speaker 1: it there us like they are really Yeah, like you 1295 01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:35,240 Speaker 1: took it deep. That's a crazy that's a crazy conversation 1296 01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:39,240 Speaker 1: to think like that. That Joe has some influence on 1297 01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:43,800 Speaker 1: what Drake bifo for by far, that's cran life far 1298 01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:46,759 Speaker 1: go listen to early Joe Budden. I'm gonna see Earland 1299 01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:49,640 Speaker 1: Joe Budden Nicks takes Yeah, and really he's gonna be 1300 01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:52,760 Speaker 1: like dad, he even do that. A you tired of me? 1301 01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:56,720 Speaker 1: So I'm back and all that and with all my 1302 01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:03,600 Speaker 1: Joe do that they got hey, wow, them little spous 1303 01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:07,280 Speaker 1: bro White Ray just took the to a new level. 1304 01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:14,080 Speaker 1: He took Corlay Joe and there's a few little brother right. 1305 01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:20,240 Speaker 1: It was that little Brother group. Yeah better yeah man, 1306 01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:23,400 Speaker 1: but it was like slum rillets yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 1307 01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:28,720 Speaker 1: baby himself out to Rake took all the new Yeah, 1308 01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:31,960 Speaker 1: if he put his own who he was and the 1309 01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:37,280 Speaker 1: infraces like the ain't believe razy that song you just 1310 01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:41,519 Speaker 1: said in particular, he just can hear that he was 1311 01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:44,800 Speaker 1: forest by Room and he took their influences and he 1312 01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:49,000 Speaker 1: turned it into what he does and he did it 1313 01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:52,599 Speaker 1: better than them. Dawl. You can hear that. I'm calling 1314 01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:56,240 Speaker 1: it well you you can hear that in some of 1315 01:14:56,320 --> 01:15:01,840 Speaker 1: the hell My it's crazy. God, bro, I still reath 1316 01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:05,559 Speaker 1: like when I go home and Matty, I don't go 1317 01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:09,519 Speaker 1: to sleep. I close my eyes and listen and put 1318 01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:13,479 Speaker 1: all about Yay is Drake. Drake was in Florence bike 1319 01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:18,240 Speaker 1: Listen to Anna make You Bet? Michael John was eight 1320 01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:21,240 Speaker 1: was brodi First? It's about did it right? It better? 1321 01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:21,439 Speaker 3: So? 1322 01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:24,479 Speaker 1: If so Yay and Drake, because Yay is a creative, 1323 01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:28,960 Speaker 1: it's two different two different artists. Yeah, two different artists. 1324 01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:32,960 Speaker 1: Can't compere. You don't think you can could even all remembers. 1325 01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:36,400 Speaker 1: You can't compare him on no level? Is ya out 1326 01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:42,479 Speaker 1: of his reach? And what in artistry? I don't think 1327 01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:44,800 Speaker 1: he's out of his reaching artistry. If you asking as 1328 01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:47,439 Speaker 1: a producer, man, when you I'm talking of just a song, 1329 01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:51,240 Speaker 1: when it's done with your team. Look, I'll give Rake 1330 01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:54,479 Speaker 1: and his horse that that that whole entourage, then with 1331 01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:59,120 Speaker 1: that horn and Yay and his thing. I don't know 1332 01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:04,439 Speaker 1: because we're talking about two of the biggest wiggas ever Broke, 1333 01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:10,000 Speaker 1: where we're talking about who made music to Drake serves 1334 01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:17,519 Speaker 1: his art, Drake is climpered Cola Rado give We'll do 1335 01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:20,880 Speaker 1: some innovative asks that we ain't gonna catch on two 1336 01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:23,640 Speaker 1: till twenty to thirty. Just hear the carnival, That's what 1337 01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:27,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm like, Jo, that's the Shreey's and see 1338 01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:29,000 Speaker 1: that's the other think Coreyl. You know what I'm saying. 1339 01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:31,559 Speaker 1: We don't know if Drake can do that if he 1340 01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:35,920 Speaker 1: wanted to where he may not really play that game. Man, 1341 01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:38,160 Speaker 1: that's a cheat code to put a chant in there. 1342 01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:41,400 Speaker 1: It's a that's literally like Liz said, he wanted to 1343 01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:45,479 Speaker 1: make an album full of soccer chats. He's a head 1344 01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:49,439 Speaker 1: bro bro like, he's that's all weird. He in pentative. 1345 01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:53,479 Speaker 1: That's yeah, two different things. So but I believe, like 1346 01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:58,360 Speaker 1: I say, I believe that no matter what happens, everybody'll 1347 01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:01,800 Speaker 1: still remain as successful rap civery roar thing Allen doesn 1348 01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:07,639 Speaker 1: Lord Yeah and listen to all bro dream Cole Kendrick 1349 01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:11,080 Speaker 1: bro We Levell bro we Ll. We canna be sitting 1350 01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:14,679 Speaker 1: up here talking about we goddamned Dave Well y'all Broke, 1351 01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:18,160 Speaker 1: y'all been leading the sound traps to our lives for years. 1352 01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:20,960 Speaker 1: Bro and we thank y'all. We appreciate y'all. And I 1353 01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:23,200 Speaker 1: can't wait to see what it's going to happen. I'm 1354 01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:25,640 Speaker 1: sitting down. I can't wait to see it with a 1355 01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:28,040 Speaker 1: rat nex. But just as a fan, all bro we 1356 01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:29,760 Speaker 1: raill Yo's on the show. 1357 01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:30,560 Speaker 2: It's going on. 1358 01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:35,040 Speaker 1: It's going to see like damn, he played the race card. 1359 01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:40,200 Speaker 1: Like when he played that race card, it's it's over. 1360 01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:43,559 Speaker 3: So when I saw some footage of you going up 1361 01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:46,439 Speaker 3: to funk Master Flex, was that a real situation. 1362 01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:50,800 Speaker 1: Or was that when did the freestyle Yea checked them. 1363 01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:52,680 Speaker 1: Oh no, he didn't even know it was gonna do 1364 01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:54,920 Speaker 1: that for real. Yeah, he didn't even know it was 1365 01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:59,240 Speaker 1: gonna do that. Uh, you know, Flecks a good dude man. 1366 01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:01,720 Speaker 1: He been hitting me for a minute, just tapping in 1367 01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:05,600 Speaker 1: with me, reposting my ship, and we was talking like 1368 01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:08,719 Speaker 1: a year prior to that, about me coming up there, 1369 01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:11,439 Speaker 1: and I was like, man, we're gonna get it right. 1370 01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:13,200 Speaker 1: Let me get this music right, and I'm gonna come 1371 01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:16,120 Speaker 1: up there. So I uh, I kind of knew when 1372 01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:18,400 Speaker 1: I went up there what I was gonna talk about, 1373 01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:21,920 Speaker 1: because I'm like everybody in the comments always always on 1374 01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:25,600 Speaker 1: flex line for like this and Pop Pop one of 1375 01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:28,599 Speaker 1: my favorite rappers. So I'm like, you know, I gotta 1376 01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:31,639 Speaker 1: say something, you know what I mean? So made sure 1377 01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:33,280 Speaker 1: I put that in there and went up there and 1378 01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:35,559 Speaker 1: did that. He was he was surprised that whole thing 1379 01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:39,679 Speaker 1: was authentic. Literally, one take what y'all seen. I walked 1380 01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:42,680 Speaker 1: in there. We was waiting in the lobby. He walked in, 1381 01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:45,000 Speaker 1: We went on the elevator. He said, let's get straight 1382 01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:48,280 Speaker 1: to it, put the beat on. I said, let's go. 1383 01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:50,839 Speaker 1: So I got a bone to pick with you, Flex. 1384 01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:52,320 Speaker 1: That's how I went there. 1385 01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:55,360 Speaker 2: How's y'all relationship being since that? 1386 01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:56,880 Speaker 1: It's been cool? 1387 01:18:57,280 --> 01:18:59,200 Speaker 3: Do you think you do you think he took that 1388 01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:01,000 Speaker 3: some kind of way or was he cool he's a 1389 01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:02,160 Speaker 3: good sport about. 1390 01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:05,760 Speaker 1: It or what. I don't know. I don't know if 1391 01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:08,920 Speaker 1: he took it some type of way. I mean, he 1392 01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:12,880 Speaker 1: spoke after that, no, I ain't been back, but at 1393 01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:15,519 Speaker 1: the same time, I ain't dropped a lot of music 1394 01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:17,240 Speaker 1: to go back and promote, you know what I mean. 1395 01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:20,280 Speaker 1: But I'm definitely gonna go back when it's time. But 1396 01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:22,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if he took it 1397 01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:24,120 Speaker 1: some type of well, he never said nothing, and we 1398 01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:26,559 Speaker 1: spoke after that, so I never took it like he 1399 01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:27,880 Speaker 1: took it some type of way. 1400 01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:31,400 Speaker 3: Do you think being bold is important? Do you think 1401 01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:35,240 Speaker 3: like addressing an elephant in the room that is important 1402 01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:35,920 Speaker 3: or just. 1403 01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:38,519 Speaker 1: Going I think depending on who you are and what 1404 01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:42,479 Speaker 1: you stand for, and I stand for hip hop, you 1405 01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:45,760 Speaker 1: know what I mean? So my bad my voice going out. 1406 01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:47,439 Speaker 1: We was just yelling, y'all. He was in the other 1407 01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:55,040 Speaker 1: room having a crazy dope. Yeah, but then where was 1408 01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:55,479 Speaker 1: he at? 1409 01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:57,320 Speaker 2: I was asking you that. 1410 01:19:59,439 --> 01:19:59,880 Speaker 1: I would ask. 1411 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:02,000 Speaker 3: We were talking about the flex thing, and then I 1412 01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:03,960 Speaker 3: was asking you when I go back, you know how 1413 01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:06,800 Speaker 3: he felt about it, and you said that you don't, 1414 01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:10,479 Speaker 3: you don't think he felt the way. And then I 1415 01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:13,080 Speaker 3: think you said, do you think about being bold? 1416 01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:13,360 Speaker 2: Is that? 1417 01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:18,800 Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah? Being bold? Yeah, being bold can definitely be disruptive. 1418 01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:22,920 Speaker 1: But I think depending on who you are, you feeling good. 1419 01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:24,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, come in, it's good. 1420 01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:27,840 Speaker 1: What's up? Hello? Hello? 1421 01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:32,920 Speaker 2: Hello? 1422 01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:36,320 Speaker 1: You go like a week? 1423 01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:41,799 Speaker 2: How you feeling? 1424 01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:44,920 Speaker 1: I'm good for sure. 1425 01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:50,320 Speaker 3: Always guess what I need to know about this background 1426 01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:51,519 Speaker 3: looks so good on camera. 1427 01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:54,160 Speaker 2: Got yeah, let me know that's dope. Got some of 1428 01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:59,120 Speaker 2: the fabric. Yeah for sure, man, Google, you have fun. 1429 01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:03,840 Speaker 1: Doing it with fire? Fire sh came out? Five? 1430 01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:06,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, how does we didn't even talk about that? Matter 1431 01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:10,280 Speaker 2: of fact, that's what we're gonna get into. Good thing, good, 1432 01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:10,920 Speaker 2: my brother. 1433 01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:13,000 Speaker 1: We'll come in there in a minute. 1434 01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:14,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll be done in just a second. 1435 01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:17,760 Speaker 3: But let's even talk about the Google thing because we 1436 01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:19,840 Speaker 3: could just we were just telling about Son but that 1437 01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:22,400 Speaker 3: was Dallas and then came in they have a compound here. 1438 01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:26,720 Speaker 1: Well shut out to Della. Rob gives U t A. 1439 01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:29,200 Speaker 1: Everybody in the building. 1440 01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:33,360 Speaker 2: Facts you did the Google thing? How does something like 1441 01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:34,120 Speaker 2: that come about? 1442 01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:40,120 Speaker 1: That came about through my book an agent, Rob. They 1443 01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:40,639 Speaker 1: just left. 1444 01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:41,840 Speaker 2: That was him. 1445 01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:44,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that came that came through That came through him, 1446 01:21:44,400 --> 01:22:02,280 Speaker 1: right there A lot of my nah, I just I 1447 01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:08,599 Speaker 1: think just came check check okay, Yeah, so the Google 1448 01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:11,920 Speaker 1: thing came through my agent, Rob Gibbs, cause we been 1449 01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:14,439 Speaker 1: really like just building out the social side of things. 1450 01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:16,080 Speaker 1: I've been telling them more like I want to get 1451 01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:19,760 Speaker 1: into the lifestyle side of things more where I'm just 1452 01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:22,320 Speaker 1: you know, showing I like to wear, what I like 1453 01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:24,559 Speaker 1: to drink, what I like to eat, and kind of 1454 01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:28,479 Speaker 1: building partnerships based off that. And they had hit me 1455 01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:31,080 Speaker 1: one day and they was like, Yo, Google reached out 1456 01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:35,200 Speaker 1: about this this thing they working on. You know, they 1457 01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:37,600 Speaker 1: know you got into the community and they want to 1458 01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:39,599 Speaker 1: see if it's something near. So we jumped on a call. 1459 01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:43,200 Speaker 1: The call went great, and next thing, you know, Bro, 1460 01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:44,639 Speaker 1: we was knocking it out in New York. 1461 01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:46,160 Speaker 2: How'd you get with Uta? 1462 01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:51,160 Speaker 1: I got with Uta, Bro, just through moving Like That's 1463 01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:54,040 Speaker 1: the thing that like we were talking earlier, getting on 1464 01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:56,800 Speaker 1: the radar, you know what I mean, Just getting on 1465 01:22:56,840 --> 01:23:00,920 Speaker 1: the radar, moving around, being in certain places, hitting these events, 1466 01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:04,000 Speaker 1: talking to everybody. I knew Rob Gibbs when I was 1467 01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:08,000 Speaker 1: at ICM, you know what I mean. That's another booking 1468 01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:12,920 Speaker 1: agent that they shut down unfortunately. But like you just 1469 01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:15,200 Speaker 1: meet people, you know what I mean. Like one thing 1470 01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:17,840 Speaker 1: about the industry is not as big as people think, 1471 01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:20,080 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, So when you meet people, 1472 01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:25,120 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, So it's like you when 1473 01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:28,240 Speaker 1: you meet people, people getting new jobs and new positions, 1474 01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:30,680 Speaker 1: and you might be working on new things and it 1475 01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:33,000 Speaker 1: might line up with something they working on at the time, 1476 01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:34,960 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I had been new 1477 01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:37,640 Speaker 1: Rob and when he had went over to U t A, 1478 01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:40,679 Speaker 1: I came over. We had some great conversations with Rich 1479 01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:44,600 Speaker 1: Paul he gotta he gotta clutch over there at UTA. 1480 01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:47,639 Speaker 1: So we had some great conversations, and you know, we've 1481 01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:48,679 Speaker 1: been working every since. 1482 01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:48,920 Speaker 3: Man. 1483 01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:53,760 Speaker 1: But a lot of like my opportunities come from just 1484 01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:55,920 Speaker 1: being in the right places at the right time. Like 1485 01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:59,080 Speaker 1: I make sure I'm at the right events, even if 1486 01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:02,719 Speaker 1: I'm not getting paid, like F One All Star Weekend, 1487 01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:06,920 Speaker 1: super Bowl. Fortunately, yeah, fortunately this year I was booked 1488 01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:10,639 Speaker 1: at all those events, but past years I haven't been. 1489 01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:14,000 Speaker 1: So I'm coming out my own pocket, buying my own flights, 1490 01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:16,600 Speaker 1: booking my own rooms, getting the rental, you know what 1491 01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:18,800 Speaker 1: I mean. And I'm bringing my homies with me, so 1492 01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:20,599 Speaker 1: I gotta pay for the food because I don't want 1493 01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:22,040 Speaker 1: them to have to come out of the pocket because 1494 01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:22,840 Speaker 1: they're here to help me. 1495 01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:26,720 Speaker 2: So that just comes an expense just to even be 1496 01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:27,360 Speaker 2: in the room. 1497 01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:29,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it becomes an expense just getting in the room. 1498 01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:32,960 Speaker 1: But once you're in the room, you know who's who, right, 1499 01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:35,880 Speaker 1: So once your time come and you get your opportunity, 1500 01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:38,439 Speaker 1: you know, okay, this person, do that, this person do this? 1501 01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:41,040 Speaker 1: I got that them people number let me hit them 1502 01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:42,280 Speaker 1: up type. You know. 1503 01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:45,720 Speaker 3: I think it's important, like you said, to pop out 1504 01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:47,479 Speaker 3: and be around, especially if you of. 1505 01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:50,240 Speaker 2: Importance and if you believe in this and if it's 1506 01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:50,800 Speaker 2: really that. 1507 01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:54,280 Speaker 3: Thing, you gonna get past these little roadblocks that people 1508 01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:56,840 Speaker 3: talk about facts like with me, I come up in 1509 01:24:56,920 --> 01:24:59,840 Speaker 3: podcasting without a co host, you know what I'm saying, 1510 01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:03,240 Speaker 3: Like literally me and the camera not even interviewing people, 1511 01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:07,320 Speaker 3: and so you start to see these walls break down, 1512 01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:10,000 Speaker 3: you know, and it's more they it's more. 1513 01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:11,280 Speaker 2: It's way more walls. 1514 01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:14,640 Speaker 3: But it's important that youngins know that there's a pathway 1515 01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:17,599 Speaker 3: to actually getting into this thing and making some money. 1516 01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:18,760 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 1517 01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:23,280 Speaker 3: When you reached out to jab Morant on that song, 1518 01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:25,559 Speaker 3: what was your thought process that. 1519 01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:31,800 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of jall, So for me it 1520 01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:38,559 Speaker 1: was like that's trying to heard it because it was like, like, bro, 1521 01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:41,439 Speaker 1: you the one. You know what I'm saying, like it 1522 01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:43,519 Speaker 1: didn't even just hurt me that it was him doing it. 1523 01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:48,559 Speaker 1: It's like Bro recording it, you know what I mean. 1524 01:25:48,520 --> 01:26:01,320 Speaker 3: Just everything, Yeah, let me see. 1525 01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:03,200 Speaker 1: Now. It was like you know, bro to one, you 1526 01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:05,639 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like he the face of what's 1527 01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:08,080 Speaker 1: to come with the NBA, and I'm a big NBA fan. 1528 01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:11,360 Speaker 1: So when I seen it, I'm like, man, I wish 1529 01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:15,120 Speaker 1: I could call him, but I don't have a personal 1530 01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:17,920 Speaker 1: relationship with y'all. I was like, wish I could call him, 1531 01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:20,120 Speaker 1: or I wish I was his homie to just tell 1532 01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:22,240 Speaker 1: him like bruh, this ain't the way or this ain't 1533 01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:25,240 Speaker 1: the move. And I was sitting down one of my homies. 1534 01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:29,240 Speaker 1: He was like strap about it, and I ain't really 1535 01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:31,880 Speaker 1: want to do it because I'm like, I ain't wanted 1536 01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:34,280 Speaker 1: to come off as like some clout, you know what 1537 01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:37,480 Speaker 1: I mean, or like me trying to like take advantage 1538 01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:40,800 Speaker 1: of a situation or nothing like that. So I'm like, 1539 01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:45,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. So he went to the studio and 1540 01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:50,840 Speaker 1: the homie Duke pulled up this beat and it just 1541 01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:53,640 Speaker 1: hit me and I just start going, you know it, 1542 01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:56,639 Speaker 1: just I just put myself in the car with him, 1543 01:26:57,320 --> 01:26:59,600 Speaker 1: like if I was riding the car with him. What 1544 01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:02,840 Speaker 1: would I tell him? And that's where that verse came from. 1545 01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:06,000 Speaker 2: Did he reach out? 1546 01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:10,519 Speaker 1: We talked, Yeah, we talked through mutual parties and we're 1547 01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:14,200 Speaker 1: working on a few things. Were working on a few things. Actually, Bro, 1548 01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:16,120 Speaker 1: who is just here that you met? 1549 01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:20,519 Speaker 2: That's kind of I know it is around job. 1550 01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:24,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's kind of what. Yeah, we're working you 1551 01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:27,640 Speaker 1: know on him. So that's dope. Look out for that 1552 01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:28,479 Speaker 1: to be coming soon. 1553 01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:29,360 Speaker 2: That's super dope. 1554 01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:29,519 Speaker 1: Man. 1555 01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:31,840 Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate you, bro. We had a dope conversation. 1556 01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:35,120 Speaker 1: Man, I appreciate you, bro, and just what you what 1557 01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:37,160 Speaker 1: you mean to the culture. You know, every time I'm 1558 01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:39,519 Speaker 1: at a show and I ended, I got to give 1559 01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:43,320 Speaker 1: people their props because I understand what media mean to 1560 01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:47,519 Speaker 1: us as artists. Right without these things, Without media, we 1561 01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:51,040 Speaker 1: don't have the proper way to control our narrative and 1562 01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:53,040 Speaker 1: what we want people to hear and what we want 1563 01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:56,639 Speaker 1: people to know from us. Sometimes, Uh, the truth get 1564 01:27:56,720 --> 01:27:59,600 Speaker 1: lost and a live being entertaining, right, you know what 1565 01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:02,280 Speaker 1: I mean? And people take advantage of people and they 1566 01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:06,479 Speaker 1: tell lies and they say things to get clickbait or 1567 01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:08,880 Speaker 1: whatever it may be. So it's always good to have 1568 01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:13,000 Speaker 1: true platforms of the artists and of the culture to 1569 01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:17,080 Speaker 1: ask the questions that the want to know that corporate 1570 01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:20,760 Speaker 1: may not necessarily understand because they didn't go through. So 1571 01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:24,800 Speaker 1: I truly appreciate you, bro. Continue to be great, continue 1572 01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:28,040 Speaker 1: to keep it, and there's just one of many. Bro. 1573 01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:30,960 Speaker 2: I appreciate you, bro. You know. 1574 01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:34,800 Speaker 3: Till next time, it's up that podcast. Y'all take that game, 1575 01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:37,680 Speaker 3: do something with it on the Patreon dot com. It's 1576 01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:40,280 Speaker 3: up that podcast for the vibes and shut out the 1577 01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:41,040 Speaker 3: prize picks. 1578 01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:42,479 Speaker 1: Let's get it. Let's get it.