1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up? 2 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: Straight Fire? Fam? It's me Jason McIntire, Straight Fire for Wednesday, 3 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: January nineteenth, and um, we got a good interview today. 4 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: I think you guys will like it. I ad during 5 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: the Rams Cardinals game on Monday Night Football. At the 6 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: very end, I see this guy started tweeting Cook Kingsbury's 7 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: a fraud. I click on it and it's like a 8 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: reporter from USA today. I was like, dang, it's aggressive 9 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: and I don't necessarily agree with it. So we had 10 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: a little back and forth. I said, Rob G, do 11 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: you know this guy? Can we get Mike Jones up 12 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: in here? Did? Yeah? We got him and we talked 13 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: on Tuesday. Listen there, what's a back and forth. We 14 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: disagree on some stuff, but civil minds can have realistic disagreements, 15 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: and a real good conversation followed. I think you guys 16 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: are really gonna like it. But before we get to 17 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,319 Speaker 1: Mike Jones in the NFL, two things, Uh, I'll start 18 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: with Jimmy Garoppolo. Yes. Uh, A lot of San Francisco 19 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: people are angry about my tweet from Tuesday about Jimmy 20 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 1: g and the injury um, and I don't know. I 21 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: a bunch of people beating down my d ms. Hey 22 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: can you come on my radio show? Can you? I'm like, guys, 23 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: I have my own podcast. I'm not don't you know. 24 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't need to go on your show. 25 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: And there's really no win for me there. What do 26 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 1: I need that for? Bottom line? You know, you guys 27 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:28,559 Speaker 1: know I I've been in the industry for a while. Um, 28 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: I'm during coaching season regularly hitting up people that are 29 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: in the know. Uh. And someone, while talking about coaches said, um, 30 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: what do you think about Jimmy G. And I was like, 31 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: what do you mean? He was bad in the second half. 32 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: I know that, but he got the wind. I think 33 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: they could beat the Packers. He's like, Jimmy G might 34 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: not even play. I was like, oh, I say, yeah. 35 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: The shoulder of the hand, it's not good. So instantly 36 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: I texted somebody in the Bay Area I know. Uh. 37 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: They were like, I don't know. Still I think he's 38 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: gonna be fine, right, I haven't heard anything. Of course. 39 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: Hours later, Shanahan addresses it that the shoulder in the 40 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: hand and it's not great and he was limited a 41 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: practice on Tuesday, and more than anything, what triggered this 42 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: was as soon as my person told me that Jimmy 43 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: g may not play it's not good. I went and 44 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: looked at the line and it was on the move. 45 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: And I would assume that the big money gamblers were 46 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: hearing things, and instantly it got bet up at all 47 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: the important places to six. And it was at four 48 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: and a half earlier. They wouldn't know the places that 49 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: we're dealing. Four and a half went to six because 50 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: they knew at six everybody's gonna take the Niners. Come on, 51 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: But why did it jump from four and a half 52 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: to six. Uncertainty of Jimmy Gaton grabbing her number early 53 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: and a Jimmy g can't go in his trail lance 54 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: in Lambeau. He started two games. He has not looked 55 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: good or comfortable in either of them. He's a rookie. 56 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: We've seen the history of rookie quarterbacks starting in the playoffs. 57 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 1: It would be a disaster, and I think the line 58 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: would surge well through a touchdown. Eight and a half 59 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: Maybe nine is kind of a dead number. Mike touch ten. 60 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. Um, yes, I know the running game 61 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: and people have visions of Colin Kaepernick dancing through the 62 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: Packers ten years ago. Folks, this is a rookie quarterback. 63 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: There's a reason that Garoppolo in the final week of 64 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 1: the season said, Hey, we're just gonna shoot up Jimmy 65 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: G's handed half to We're gonna need him to get 66 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 1: to the playoffs. Like tray Lance is not getting you 67 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: to the playoff. He's just now ready down the road. 68 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: Maybe he's okay, I'm not a huge fan now, but 69 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: maybe the guy's awesome. Right now, what we know is 70 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: the Tray Lance is not very good and there's no 71 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: chance that the Niners could win that game with him starting. 72 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens with jim Garoppolo. You guys 73 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: don't have a fan of Jimmy G. I've been hyping 74 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: him on this podcast. I think he's much better than 75 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: he gets credit forced similar to Cliff Kingsbury who gets 76 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: a super bum rap. But again, we'll get into that 77 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: with Mike Joe shortly. Um, so we'll see what happens 78 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: with Jimmy G. But the lines at six and I'll 79 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: just tell you now, if you start seeing six and 80 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: a halves, somebody knows something. There are people when you're 81 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: betting a hundred thousand dollars two hundred thousand dollars on 82 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: games and moving lines. You have better information than whatever 83 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: Rappaport has. And my guy Glazer and chefs are all 84 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: these guys, so those guys have the intel. When you 85 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: see the line move, that's your big tell. Okay, um, 86 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: I do want it to quickly quickly talk about the 87 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: NBA because I didn't know it. I mean, listen, I 88 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: knew the Lakers were in rough shape. Okay, we knew 89 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: it was not good, but I didn't know it was 90 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: Frank Vogel's coaching for his job on a nightly basis bad. 91 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: Let's remember Anthony Davis gets knocked out of the playoffs 92 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: last year. Lakers get go down without a whimper. He's 93 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: kind of a big deal. He's probably a top seven 94 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: player in the NBA. He's been on the shelf with 95 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: the m c L. Lebron has been hurt. They've had 96 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 1: COVID setbacks out the wazoo. And let's remember Lebron and 97 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: a D brought in Russell Westbrook and he's been an 98 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: unmitigated disaster. I know he flushed one of Gobert whoop 99 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,559 Speaker 1: the damn do that the end? And that's not turning 100 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: around a season. Okay, I'm sorry, guys, this ease is 101 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: not lost. But I don't understand how, Oh we got 102 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: waxed by Denver by thirty seven. We gotta fire Vogel. 103 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: What's that gonna do? And I know, yes, Lebron historically 104 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: at other stops has gotten guys bounced. I get it. 105 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 1: I just I don't see how getting rid of Vogel 106 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: now he's gonna do anything. He is established as a 107 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: good coach again back dating back to Indiana, good coach. 108 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: He with the Lakers winning in the bubble like good coach. 109 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: I know you want to say Lebron fine, but he 110 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: took Paul George places uh in the in the East 111 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: that nobody thought Frank Vogel could do. I know he 112 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: was awful in Orlando. Show me somebody who's been good 113 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: in Orlando. Um, it just seems excessive to be thinking 114 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: about firing Vogel. I just I don't get it. And 115 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: apparently this whole idea of having Kurt Rambis sit in 116 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: on Vogel addressing the team, that's kind of amateur hour. 117 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: That makes the Lakers look bad. Frank Vogel won you 118 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: guys a title, um less than what's sixty seventy months ago, 119 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: and now because they're struggling without Anthony Davis and like 120 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: an entirely new roster, we're panicking and gonna fire him. 121 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: I get it. A lot of people don't like Vogel, 122 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,239 Speaker 1: but this idea that all of a sudden he should 123 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: be winning games when he's playing heavy minutes for Austin 124 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: Reeves and Stanley Johnson who's on like another ten day contract. Like, folks, folks, 125 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: let's be realistic, you know. I mean, every time you're 126 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: done with, you know, a two seven off suit, are 127 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: you making lemonade out of that? Let's be realistic. So 128 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: I just think this Frank Vogel stuff is a little 129 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: over the top, and uh, surely we'll address it if 130 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: he gets canned. Let me quickly look at the Lakers schedule, 131 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: because um, there might be another thirty point loss on 132 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: the horizon, and I just I don't know what that 133 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: alving is. The next coach gonna come in and be 134 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: able to tell Russell Westbrook you're sitting out in crunch time. 135 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: You know, I don't think Vogo cam they got Indiana 136 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: than a road trip to Orlando. My, oh, my goodness, 137 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: road trip Orlando, Miami, Brooklyn, Philly, Charlotte, Atlanta. You canna 138 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: fire him on the road, man, that is that's cold. 139 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,559 Speaker 1: I mean, yes, they lost to Memphis, Sacramento in Denver. 140 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: That was a bad stretch. Uh, two of those were 141 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: on the road. Right before that, they won four in 142 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: a row against dregs of the league's Atlanta, Sacramento, Minnesota, Portland's. UM. 143 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: Bottom line is the Lakers are not great. I don't 144 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: know what they do with this Russell Westbrook situation. Like 145 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: I think you just say, like, hey, it's a close 146 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: game down the stretch, Sorry, Russ, We're gonna leave you 147 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: out and deal with the fallout later as you win 148 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: the game hopefully. Um. And again, I've said it from 149 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: when they acquired him. Russ is much better with it. 150 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: He should just run the second unit and dominate with 151 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: those guys and eat against backups throughout the league. He ain't, 152 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: he's just not a starter at the stage of his career. Um. 153 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: But geez, Lakers trying to give us some fireworks. Maybe 154 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: they're saving it for the week between the super Bowl 155 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: and the Conference championships. You know, there's nothing going on. 156 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: Maybe that's the game plan for the Lakers. Anyways, let's 157 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:15,239 Speaker 1: get to today's guest, talk a little Cliff Kingsbury NFL playoffs, 158 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: UM coaching carousel with Mike Jones of USA Today Sports. 159 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 160 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox Sports 161 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: Radio dot com and within the I Heart Radio app 162 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: search f s R to listen live. Jason likes to 163 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: think he knows everything when it comes to sports. I 164 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: know what sports dance want. But for everything he doesn't, 165 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: he knows a guy who does. Let's just say I 166 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: know a guy who knows. The guy knows another guy. 167 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: All right, let's welcome into straight fire a guest who 168 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: grew up in the same area I did. I worked 169 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: at the Washington Post read the Post growing up. Now 170 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: he's at USA Today Sports and he had one of 171 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: the better tweets UH from Monday Night Football, basically calling 172 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury a fraud. I like. I like that aggressiveness. 173 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 1: Let's welcome Mike Jones. Mike, how are you man? Hey, 174 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: I'm doing pretty well. How about you? I'm great. I 175 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: love when people come off the top rope on Kingsbury, 176 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: um and and listen, he gets beat up a lot, 177 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: and he does open himself up to criticism. I'd like 178 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: to start with your overriding thoughts on Ram's Cardinals from Monday. 179 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: Kind of a snoozer. But Kingsbury finally made the playoffs, 180 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: even though he did not make much of a good 181 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: impression in that first appearance. Yeah, I mean they really 182 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: backed into the playoffs, you know. I mean, you want 183 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: to go into the postseason with momentum and the second 184 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: half of the season. Look, if they had not had 185 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: Colton McCoy for you know, two of those games to 186 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: go to and one with that Coulton McCoy, you know, 187 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: because I mean, yeah, somebody else who wasn't competent um, 188 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: they don't even make the playoffs. That seven and oh 189 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: start was great, But um, you know, when when it 190 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: was going on, I was asking people because I do rankings. 191 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: I think it was like the first two quarters of 192 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: the season, and I was like, Okay, here are the 193 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: teams that really starting to stinguish themselves. So I ask 194 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: a lot of people because look, what do I know? 195 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: I didn't know what I see, but I don't study, study, study, 196 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: Like these coaches who watched this stuff seven you know, 197 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: fifteen hour days of watching film and everything. So and 198 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: I talked to a lot of people and they're like, dude, 199 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: I don't buy it. Um, you know he's gonna do 200 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: what he always does. Just watch and I was like, 201 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: are you sure? Like maybe he's putting it together. They 202 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: got a better run game and people still felt like 203 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: that they were going to collapse, and sure if they 204 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: did collapse once. So once they got last night, I 205 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: felt like because of what I was told, like, look next, 206 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 1: when he goes to play these teams the second time around, 207 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: it's going to be a struggle. And here he is 208 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: playing the Rams a third time. And the Rams defense 209 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: was even better, more comfortable, better chemistry. Um, and also 210 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: on a mission really like I think that the Cardinals 211 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: are like, yeah, we made it to the playoffs. They 212 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: kind of looked like they were like we got here. 213 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: You know. The Ms are like we're trying to get 214 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: to l A. We're trying to host our own super 215 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: Bowl here. And you just saw a better a different 216 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: sense of urgency, really aggressive game plan for Raheem Morris. 217 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: The offense was on point from Sean McVey, Matthew Stafford 218 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: looked better than he had and it just looked like 219 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: two teams. One belonged one did not. So so for 220 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: the glass half full on Kingsbury, you'd be like, wow, 221 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: So he was five ten and one first year, than 222 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: eight and eight, than eleven and six shows progress. Has 223 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback, you know, the typical growing paint the 224 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: glass half empty as well. Every season he has cratered 225 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: down the stretch and that's like kind of the boxer 226 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 1: who comes out with a great game plan and then 227 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: he gets hit and he's like, I don't know how 228 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: to adjust, and then he just doesn't adjust. Are you 229 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: more of a glass half full or half empty on Kingsbury? 230 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: Normally I'm like glass half full type of guy. I 231 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: always looked for some positives. But again, I like educate 232 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: myself by talking to people in the league here, and 233 00:11:55,760 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: the people I talked to or like insistent that at 234 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: he was gonna do the same thing again, and I 235 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: was like, well, look, he looks like he's really learned something. 236 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: He's he's figured out how to run the ball. You know, 237 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: he added James Conner and you know they weren't really 238 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: a running team, you know, outside of column early and 239 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: they've added that dimension and they're like, yeah, but still 240 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 1: watch what happens the second half of the season. And 241 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: so I'm looking at this and sure enough, that happened again. 242 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 1: And then when you go back and look, and another 243 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: guy told me, like, this is what he does, not 244 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: just here in the NFL, but even in college the 245 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: first half of the season, and somebody tweeted at both 246 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: of us they had actually done the found the math 247 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: of it Texas Tech. You know, So the first seven 248 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: games of the season for his career going back to 249 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:43,599 Speaker 1: two thousand thirteen, this dude is twenty and one. That's impressive. 250 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: But the second half of the season from two thousand 251 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: thirteen to two tho one, he's seventeen and forty three. 252 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: That's awful. And I think that part of it also 253 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: is like, Okay, this dude shows me this offensive whiz. 254 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: They fired Steve Wilkes after one season because they just 255 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: had to have this genius of a coach who didn't 256 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: even have a winning record in college. Um, and he's 257 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: supposed to take this team and take them to new 258 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: heights and everything and be the guy to develop Kyler 259 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: Murray and sure enough we see, Hey, look he does 260 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: some good things earlier in the year, but again second 261 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: half of the season crunch time. But the Patriots never 262 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: looked great in um September and October under Bill Belichick. 263 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: But it's November, December, in January that really matters. And 264 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: so yeah, hey, everybody can get off to a fast start, 265 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: but are sustainable. And so that's why I feel like, look, 266 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: this guy is supposed to be so great. Why don't 267 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: he have a CounterPunch? Why doesn't he figure this out yet? 268 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: And Okay, yes, as the records you look at him 269 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: each year, it's gotten better. But when it really matters, um, 270 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: you know, and I mean, he's just not getting it done. 271 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: So if you're gonna fire Steve Wilkes, you're gonna fire 272 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: Brian Flores, You're gonna fire some of these black coaches 273 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: with on such a short leash. Um, you know, let's 274 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: look at Cliff Kingsbury. The same type of scrutiny there, 275 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 1: because you know, you're not getting the job done when 276 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: it really matters either. So do you do you think 277 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: Kingsbury's in trouble here? I mean, coming off a playoff appearance. Uh, wins. 278 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: I think he'll have I think he'll get another chance 279 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: because but coming into this season, he was definitely on 280 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: the hot seat. He better thank God for that stuff 281 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: in or no start, because if they had had an 282 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: up and down start, they hadn't they just missed the playoffs. Um, 283 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: then maybe he would be in trouble. I think he 284 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: probably has. Like, look, okay, a lot of coaches. You know, 285 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: he'll be going into year four next year. You don't 286 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: get four years to turn around a team very often anymore. 287 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: You know, it's like two or three years, and then 288 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: you know, if you're not, then they're pulling the plug. 289 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: So he's really got to he's got to do more 290 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: than just show up for the dance and get the 291 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: pants blown off you next year. I I do wonder, 292 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: you know, and I listen. I understand, like, hey, if 293 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: you pretty much can tell early if a guy has 294 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: it or he doesn't. But like, if you start firing 295 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: coaches after a year like Wilkes or two Matt Rules 296 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: supposedly hot seat or three, you become Cleveland brown z right, 297 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: and you're just on this cycle of just continuously firing 298 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: dudes like the New York Giants were never on that, 299 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: and now here in the last decade they're on it, 300 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: and you know a lot of it's tied to the quarterback. 301 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: But I do wonder, like, where are you on a 302 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: guy like Matt Rule? Like two years total disaster fires? 303 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: Is O c Flores? People think he got shafted? Like 304 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: do you think some of these coaches deserve the time 305 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: to bake, say like a Zach Taylor, who was that 306 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: absolute train wreck? But is Zach Taylor good now, Mike 307 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: or does he have a good quarterback in Joe Burrow? 308 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: I think that Zach Taylor is aligned with management here 309 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: and they figured out how to put these pieces together. 310 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: They got the right quarterback, because how many times do 311 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: we see a coach get the wrong quarterback? Matt Rules 312 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: a perfect example. Okay, so Cam Newton wasn't it right, 313 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: So then you go in and Teddy Bridgewater supposed to 314 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: be the guy, and Teddy Bridgewater wasn't good enough, and 315 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: then you get Sam Donald and Sam Donald started off okay, 316 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: turned into a pumpkin, got hurt and you know, revolving 317 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: door and everything like that. Um guy out in Denver, 318 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: Vic Fangio didn't have the right quarterback. Maybe that's not 319 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: all his fault. But say he had the right quarterback there, 320 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: this guy would still be there. The defense was very good, 321 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: the players loved him. But you've got to be aligned 322 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: with management and you've gotta make smart personal decisions. So, okay, 323 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury lucked into the number I mean a job 324 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: where he's got the number one pick, you know, and 325 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: you've got Kyler Murray. But the problem is he's got 326 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. Guys, tell me, defensive coaches again, these guys 327 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: like you and me watch these games. Maybe we will 328 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: rewatch some things. These guys live film study, and they 329 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: will say, you can tell by the play calling he's 330 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: basically counting on Kyler Murray to bail him out. He's 331 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: not changing things to help Kyler Murray. Like and Kyler 332 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: Murray last year got banged up and he never was 333 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: quite the same. Cliff Kingsbury was still like, go out there, 334 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: be superman, come on man like, didn't change things up 335 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: to try to ease pressure on him as he was 336 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: trying to work his way back this year. Okay, we saw, yes, 337 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: they lost DeAndre Hopkins. You made that point left, but 338 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 1: there still was not an adjustment to compensate. Okay, you know, 339 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: as we see Byron Leftwich and Bruce Arians. So they 340 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: lose Godwin, what do they start, you know, focusing on 341 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 1: Obviously you've got Mike Evans. You start going with more 342 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: too tight end sets, so that way you say, okay, 343 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: this is what we have to work with. Let's play 344 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: with these strengths that we do have. But you don't 345 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: see those kind of adjustments out of Cliff Kingsbury. Um 346 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: and and a lot of coaches they know what they know, 347 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 1: and like Sean McVeigh, you'll see every year he's changing 348 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 1: up something with their offense. It's continually evolving. Um you 349 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: know McDaniel up in New England their offense. You know, 350 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 1: they know what they believe in, but they tweak and 351 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: they change. You've got to be willing to continue to grow. 352 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: So maybe Cliff Kingsbury needs a veteran, very veteran set 353 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: of eyes as his offensive coordinator to help him grow 354 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: as a head coach. I think all coaches should have 355 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 1: like four years unless you're an absolute disaster, because it's 356 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: time to build something, you know. But if we're in 357 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: this climate of the NFL where we're pulling plugs quickly 358 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: then he used to go. But I think, hey, if 359 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: it's me, I'm buying a team, I'm hiring a guy. 360 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, look, you've got four years because you gotta 361 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: get your right quarterback. You gotta get the pieces around him. 362 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 1: They've got to learn the system. There's got to be 363 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: some continuity there, and then well we'll see where you are. 364 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: Four sounds reasonable. I mean the only problem is that, 365 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: like the Miami Dolphins, right, they had Dan Marino. Dan 366 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: Marino leaves twenty years later, Mike, they still don't have 367 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: a friends. It's quarterback. It sticks. But to Washington, you 368 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: know Washington three for like five minutes before. Yeah, but 369 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: I'm saying, like all the yeah, it's I mean, it's 370 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: just like it's a revolving door if you don't get 371 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: that quarterback right, and there's a bunch of bad decisions 372 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: at quarterback, you know, bad personnel decisions, bad coaching, citizens hires, 373 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: and you just never get out of that. I'll give 374 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: Arizona a little bit of a pass for what I 375 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: thought was a great offseason, Right, they didn't have veteran leadership. 376 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: Sometimes that can hurt you down the stretch. So they 377 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: go get a J. Green, who was largely good J J. 378 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: Watt leadership, a couple other guys that they picked up 379 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 1: who are veterans of Connor not a huge veteran, but 380 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: he was on winning teams in Pittsburgh, I thought, and 381 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: Coulte McCoy, the backup quarterback, who was key. Like I 382 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: thought they had a good off season and that probably 383 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 1: helped them get to eleven. So how do we set 384 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 1: expectations for Kingsbury next year? I mean, he's in a 385 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 1: division with the forty Niners, who are perennial Super Bowl contenders, 386 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: right with Kyle Shanahan, who we could argument a little overrated, 387 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 1: but the Rams who have Stafford and McVeigh and then 388 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 1: if Russell Wilson six around Pete Carroll. They've been into 389 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. So going into the season, Arizona is 390 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: behind the eight ball already. They're the worst team in 391 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: the division right, And it's like, what are reasonable expectations? 392 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you know there is an argument that hey, 393 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: just getting to the playoffs as an accomplishment, anything after 394 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: that is gravy. So so what I don't know what 395 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: they what they should be? Then? Like should he's got 396 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: to get a playoff win. You know, you can't just 397 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: show up the playoffs and check the box. They all, 398 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 1: I made it to the playoffs years. Um. I think 399 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: the real growth will be how they finished the season. 400 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: You know. So like Washington fans like to be like, oh, 401 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: we made the playoffs last year. You know, they won 402 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: the division with a five and seven record, you know, 403 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: and they you know, that doesn't count for me because 404 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: like you backed into it because the rest of your 405 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: division was trash. Okay, so hold on, does it account 406 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 1: for Cleveland? Last year they make it with Stefanski, they 407 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 1: win a game in Pittsburgh, I believe, and then this 408 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: year they create her back. So I just it's listen, 409 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: I'm with you. I like the fraud and all this stuff, 410 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: but when you dig deeper, it's like you could probably 411 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: make an argument like to fire like a third of 412 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: the coaches in this league. Yeah, I mean, I hold 413 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: this guy up in such high regard if it's one 414 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: of the hot shot. You know, everybody had him on 415 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: their wish list. All these owners did. Okay, as the 416 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 1: wish list is as a coaching candidate, but I mean, 417 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: look here, what has he done again? How is he 418 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: doing it too? So maybe they say they got the 419 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 1: playoffs and and got the doors beat off of them, 420 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 1: that's bad. But the second half of this season here, 421 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: you know, three and six or what was it, four 422 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: and six and lost the last five, that's really bad. Like, 423 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: that's not the way you finished down the stretch of 424 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: a season. So I think you have to look at 425 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: You can't just look at the record. You have to 426 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: look at how it is, how it plays out. I 427 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: mean I wouldn't have fired Brian Flores. I mean, look, 428 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: they missed the playoffs, but they won eight of their 429 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: last nine games. Um, but what is there about the quarterback? 430 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 1: What does it say that Flores started the season one 431 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 1: and seven? It's like, was he not prepared? I think 432 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: here's one in three the year prior? Right. I think 433 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: the problem there is he had too many cooks in 434 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: the kitchen. He had a co offensive coordinator, two guys, 435 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: you know, a run offensive coordinator and a passing offensive 436 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: coordinator and everything. But once they streamlined things and all 437 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: the swirling and rumors about John Watson, everything went away 438 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: to a really start take steps forward. Um, so bad 439 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: bad move on on um Flores who was on again? 440 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: He had one offensive coordinator the first year, second offensive 441 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: coordinator the next year. Then these two you know, this 442 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: tag team, you know, thinking so yeah, if you can't 443 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: have like all these voices, you know, and then you've 444 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: got a quarterbacks coach in the quarterbacks here, and you've 445 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: got the head coach that too many voices for a 446 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: young guy. So in a way, that start was Brian 447 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: Flores problem. He figured out how to fix it, though, 448 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 1: And I think that you have to be like, Okay, look, 449 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: we're invested in this guy. Yes, we have our differences. 450 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: We've got to figure this out here. Pride is like 451 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: the like I mean, the pride is the biggest fault 452 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: in you know, situations and you know, you know, yeah, 453 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: you know in in in the NFL is Well, let 454 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: me ask you about Flores. Right, the hiring cycle is happening. 455 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you know we're recording this Tuesday morning. Who 456 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 1: knows somebody's getting hired later today. But Mike, I mean, 457 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 1: if Flores goes to Houston, Deshaun Watson ay playing there, 458 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: he's not gonna have a quarterback, right, Like I mean again, 459 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: some of them, like dan Quinn maybe I think he's 460 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: using Denver's leverage or trying to. But like you got 461 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: a Denver great roster. You're not winning in that division, 462 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: right Mike? I mean Herbert twice, my Homes twice. The 463 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 1: Raiders just made the playoffs. You have no quarterback. Flora's 464 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: goes to Houston, like, if you have no quarterback, isn't 465 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: even an attractive job? And I say this to set 466 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: up Eric, the enemy, who has been with my Homes 467 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 1: and the Chiefs. He somehow doesn't get interviews. And then 468 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: you look around and you're like, all right, well should 469 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: if you're the enemy, do you even take one of 470 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 1: these crappy jobs where you're not you're gonna be done 471 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: in two years? Like who done to New York Giants? Job? 472 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 1: Like they're not gonna win? Like you got go go ahead, 473 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: go ahead. I feel like you, as a head coach 474 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: have to go in there with some guarantees, like, look, 475 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: we don't have a quarterback right now. You've got to 476 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 1: give me some time to find this guy. And then 477 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,959 Speaker 1: if he's a young guy, developed this guy, if you 478 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 1: want me to have a chance, Um, you know, And 479 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: I've said to somebody like David Culley, thing really like 480 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: was upset. Okay, the guy had no quarterback. He had 481 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 1: a roster that was really stripped down. They probably would 482 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 1: have had trouble beating you know, Alabama, UM, and and 483 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: and then they win four games and they you know, 484 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: are really pushing some teams. They fall short, but they 485 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: were competitive. And but the way his contract was structured, 486 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: it was almost like it was supposed to be a 487 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: one and done thing there. But okay, and I asked Hibody, 488 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: so why would his agent even let him sign a 489 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 1: deal like that? Well, like, they're thirty two of these 490 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: jobs and look now, look he's got okay, seventeen million 491 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,959 Speaker 1: for coaching one season. He can go get a position 492 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: coach job and he'll you know, he's well regarded or whatever. 493 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: But still it's still bad because this guy, like and 494 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 1: we're going down another buny trail, but like look at him, 495 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 1: look at Hugh Jackson, UM, look at Steve Wilkes, like 496 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: all these like coaches, like are these placeholders in these 497 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: undesirable situations? And as soon as they get the caps 498 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: situation fixed and get yourself position for some good picks, 499 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: you fire that guy and then go get a sexy 500 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: coach instead of letting a coach continue to build what 501 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: he was working on that You're not going to succeed 502 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: that way either. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports 503 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows 504 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: at Fox sports Radio dot com and within the I 505 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: Heart Radio app search f s R to listen live. 506 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: How about this one? So I didn't love the Sirianni 507 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: higher in Philly, and I didn't think whoever was getting 508 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: that job had a chance to succeed given the Carson 509 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: Wentz disaster. Sirianni made the playoffs. Like do we think 510 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: he's a good coach or is that Hey, I played 511 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 1: in the NFC East, which is a joke. I mean, 512 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:36,959 Speaker 1: and and then you know you can play that car 513 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: with Ron Rivera last year like they were not a 514 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: good team. I mean it showed this year as this 515 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 1: year right right right, and they're not gonna be good 516 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: next year, Like you know, Watchington could luckily win seven 517 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 1: games being in that division. But I mean, and Mike, 518 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 1: that's what makes this NFL so fascinating, Like right now, 519 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: I think the hottest name, honestly that I'm excited about 520 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: is Jim Harball. Do you think he's surfaces anywhere? Is 521 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: the can he go to the Raiders? Say Derek Carr 522 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 1: stick around and we can win games. Because if I 523 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 1: look at the openings, I mean, I think it's got 524 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: to be I know, you might not like this. Jacksonville 525 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: with Trevor Lawrence. Lawrence was bad, but I do think 526 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 1: he's gonna be good. And then Derek Carr. Other than that, 527 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: I don't know that i'd take the jobs. Yeah, when 528 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 1: you look at all these jobs, um, I mean Miami, 529 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think two is bad. I 530 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: think too it can continue to grow. Um, But I 531 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: mean the general manager hand picked the head coach and 532 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 1: that didn't work out. He also hand picked two, right right? 533 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 1: You know? So, so can you really trust the guy 534 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: that's hiring you? You know, are you gonna be constantly 535 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: looking over your shoulder there? I think you have stuff 536 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: to work with. Thank you to Brian Flores for whipping 537 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 1: that roster into shape. And you have a young quarterback. 538 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: You know, but you know that one's not so bad. Um. 539 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: The Houston job obviously terrible. Um, what are we Minnesota job? 540 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 1: That one's not a bad job. You gotta figure out 541 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 1: what you're gonna do with Kirk Cousins. But like a 542 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 1: guy like Marvin Lewis would be perfect there because they're 543 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: running his system anyway, and he's better than Mike Zimmers, 544 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 1: so he could elevate that defense. Um, how was Marvin Lewis? 545 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 1: Martin Lewis? He was right, So he's been out of 546 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: the league. He was at Arizona State, looks like for 547 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 1: the last three years with her ed words before that 548 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: with the Bengal coach. This is a good question. So 549 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: the GM was fired in Minnesota as well. Right, if 550 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: you are the GM, right, maybe this is your first 551 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: time getting a GM job. Are you hiring a guy 552 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 1: who's been around the block of veteran or are you 553 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: sweeing for the fences with a Zach Taylor anybody who's 554 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: had a cup of coffee with McVeigh. What about Brian 555 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: day Bole in Buffalo, who we could argue he maybe 556 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: made Josh Allen forty million dollars a year or whatever. 557 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,360 Speaker 1: I didn't think Allen was coming out. But where are 558 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: you going if you're the Minnesota Vikings and you're let's 559 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 1: say you get the GM job, Mike, If I'm that, 560 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: if I'm the guy, I'm hiring a veteran guy, because yes, 561 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: obviously you have convictions. UM on how you think should 562 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: things should be done. But if I'm a young guy, 563 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 1: I want to lean on someone who's been there. Um, 564 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: when you look at his track record, does he have okay, 565 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: does he have a good track record of working together 566 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: with people? Or you know, some veteran guys are just like, hey, 567 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: it's my way of the highway. Um, you know, as 568 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: we've seen coming out of Bill Belichick tree. Um. But 569 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: a guy like Marvin Lewis has a good way of 570 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 1: getting young guys and old guys to work together. He 571 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: works well. They had an awful, very bare bones scouting 572 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: department in Cincinnati, um, and they were competitive all those 573 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: years they were there. So he also had some personnel 574 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: say but so he does understand, but he also is 575 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: gonna let his general manager. So I'm hitching myself to 576 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: somebody like that. It's very hard to you know, go 577 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: after a young guy. What could be a real roll 578 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: of the dice, because okay, if you're Sean mcveigh's offensive coordinator, 579 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: and Sean McVeigh is its own play caller, you're basically 580 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: his gopher guy. You know. Um, now maybe maybe you 581 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: know we're seeing you know, Matt Lafleur, very meticulous, very organized, whatever. 582 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: And look now, well, I mean he's doing great up 583 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: in Green Bay. I think he's I was about to say, 584 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: I want to see and I like my matt Or 585 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: covered him in Washington. Very smart guy. What happens when 586 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is gone though, ye's coaching? Uh, let's see 587 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: who do you want to pick if Washington this year? 588 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: What was your record? I mean, are they in the playoffs? 589 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: I think I think he's more. I think he's better 590 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: than what's his face? Um? Than Scott Turner as an 591 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: offensive mind. Oh, I was thinking head coach. You know, 592 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: I'm saying, so he if he's overseeing their offense, I 593 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: do think that their offense is a little bit better. Um. 594 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,719 Speaker 1: But still if that team is still bad, you know, um, 595 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor, he was bad and now Joe Burrows healthy again, 596 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: and I don't think Jack Dane was good? Is it okay? 597 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: Is that a take to have, like you're only good 598 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: because of Joe Burrow? Sorry, I'm sorry, I need to 599 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: see it. I didn't see it the first two years. Mike. 600 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: Let me push back on Marvin Lewis. I just called 601 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: up his history won a lot of games intensity Cincinnati 602 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: playoffs with Carson Palmer and Andy Dalton and seven never 603 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: got out of the first round. Right that they didn't 604 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: have a real scouting department. His assistant coaches in him 605 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: were the guys who were evaluating talent after the season 606 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: was over. So you don't have a college a full 607 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: time college scouting department. They subscribed to a scouting service 608 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: because they were too cheap. If you have a full 609 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: time scouting department and a real general manager, how much 610 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: better could they be? Interesting? I feel like they are 611 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: all kinds of little, you know, pieces to this puzzle, 612 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: UM that could elevate and could make it better. So 613 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: that's why I when I see what he did and 614 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: talking to people, they're like, dude, if you knew what 615 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: he had to deal with um and to get what 616 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: he did get out of it, um, it makes that 617 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: what he did that much more impressed. It's funny you 618 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: say that. And I remember we had eight uh Greg 619 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: McElroy on the podcast a couple of weeks ago, and 620 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: he was in Cincinnati and he said the sauna broke 621 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: in like week two or whatever, and they were too 622 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: cheap to fix it. They just never like the organization 623 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: just cheap. UM. If you try to pull that stuff 624 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: with Burrow, I don't hopefully he won't stick around. UM yeah, 625 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: all right, let me quickly ask you about this weekend's games. 626 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: Anything jump out at you? Uh, either from a point 627 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: spread aside, Um, it seems like the favorites were dominant 628 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: in wild card round. Do you think the home favorites 629 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: to again rolled into Division Round? I think that two 630 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: home teams should be pretty worried. I mean, maybe maybe three. Um, 631 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: the Bucks should be worried about the Rams. Um, you know, 632 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: because this defense coming after them, and they have playmakers 633 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: across the board in offense, and the Bucks are a 634 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: little shorthanded. Um, you know, and those guys, you know, 635 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: I know that that coaching staff, the Rams coaching staff, 636 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: they were up at four o'clock this morning studying film 637 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: the night after they want you know, that game. Um, 638 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: they're they're they're coming for these Bucks. Um. I think 639 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: that the Packers should be worried. Um, how Kyl Shanahan 640 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: taught Matt Lafloor everything he knows. And you know this, 641 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: this this forty Niners team. I know that they had 642 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: to hold on. Jimmy Garoppolo is a generous guy and 643 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: kept Dallas in that game. But this defense is pretty good. Um. 644 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: And if you have, if if Kyl Shanahan knows the tendencies. Um, 645 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: we saw them go down to the wire, Aaron Rodgers, 646 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: you know, pull them out of the you know, a 647 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: tight spot, and they won on that game winning drive. Um. 648 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: Now you're seeing him again. I think you gotta sweat 649 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: a little bit off your the Packers. And I think 650 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: if you're the Chiefs, you're sweating about the Bills. Um, 651 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: because this Bill's team, Josh Allen looks like he's going 652 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,239 Speaker 1: on a mission. I still think that the Chiefs can 653 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: win that game, but I think it's gonna be it's 654 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: gonna be a dog fight. Interesting, you Shanahan take his 655 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: you know ahead of Shanahan versus Quinn. I was like, 656 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: you know, Quinn and him, and they knew each other 657 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: in Atlanta. Quinn has to know what's coming. And Dan 658 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: Quinn just got embarrassed. I thought he got his pants 659 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: pulled down. I mean they gave up touchdown field, goal field, 660 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: goal field. It could not stop San Francisco. Um. And 661 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: then now La Fleur Shanahan's interesting because I remember the 662 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: a f C or the NFC championship right, it was. 663 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: It was a blood bath a couple of years ago. 664 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: Have they have they played since they played in the 665 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: regular season this past year. Yeah, two point game, Aaron, 666 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: you know, Jimmy Garoppolo looked great. March them downfield. They 667 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: scored if they scored too fast, and and Aaron Rodgers 668 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: had like what like forty seven seconds marched down the 669 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: field score in the game. When you know that that 670 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: was a Monday game. Maybe I think it was a 671 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: Monday night. That's something like that, right, alright, Mike, Mike, 672 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: Mike Jones USA Today, formally Washington Post. Anything else you 673 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: want to You're gonna keep bombing on Kingsbury. And have 674 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: you heard from anybody at Arizona? By the way, No, 675 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: I have not heard from any in Arizona. But again, 676 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: like I'm not making this stuff up. I talked to 677 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: a lot of people around the league, and this is 678 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: the opinion held by many coaches and talent evaluators and 679 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: scouts who scouted his games, put together game plans and 680 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: are like, hey, like once he shows you something, next 681 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: time around, he's got no counterfund. Is there anyone that 682 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 1: you're the people you're talking to, Is there any young 683 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,720 Speaker 1: coach that they like. I'm assuming it's not Zach Taylor. 684 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: Are they talking about Rabel? Um, Robert Sala did not 685 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 1: so much for my Jets this here, right, Yeah he didn't. 686 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 1: I mean, Brabel has a lot of respect around the league. 687 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: I mean, look, when you think about what they didn't, 688 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: you know, they're not sexy. Um. You know, there's nothing 689 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: exciting about Ryan Tannehill. But the fact that they still 690 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: got the one seed after losing Derrick Henry, after having 691 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: you know, a j Brown out, after Julio Jones not 692 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 1: getting his first touchdown catch until what like two weeks 693 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: left in the season. Um, that defense gradually improved, steadily improved. 694 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: I don't know what they can do here in the playoffs, 695 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: but Rabel definitely has a lot of success, a lot 696 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: of respect around the league. Here. It's gonna be intriguing. 697 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I think they have a good, you know, 698 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: favorable matchup here. Um, I just I don't know is 699 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 1: Cincinnati you know, are they gonna be good or are 700 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: they gonna be like, yeah, we won our playoff matchup 701 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 1: and then you know what about January Joe Burrow they're 702 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: calling him now. I mean, all these win national titles 703 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,879 Speaker 1: in January, wins the playoff game. He's pretty damn good. 704 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: It's pretty quick, very good, very poised, very impressive to watch, 705 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 1: so it's gonna be intriguing there too. All Right, Mike, 706 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: thanks a lot for the time. Man, all right, thanks 707 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: for having me.