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Speaker 1: and we'll see if I'm correct, Stavros at lam Mazuglu.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask him and we'll see. But star Ros

426
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Speaker 1: has been writing for this side for a while, and uh,

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Speaker 1: I'm interested in hearing actually a little bit more about

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Speaker 1: his background from Greece and getting into some of the

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Speaker 1: recent articles he's been writing. So joining us is stav Ros,

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Speaker 1: former Greek army with the five seventy five Marines Battalion

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Speaker 1: and Army h Q, currently studying at Johns Hopkins, which

432
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Speaker 1: we were hoping to get you in studio, but I

433
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Speaker 1: know you're stuck there. Um, but you're doing that with

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Speaker 1: your undergrad while writing for News Rep full time. And

435
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 1: I was saying before I actually brought you on that

436
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 1: I was gonna attempt to say your last name. Uh,

437
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 1: tell me how wrong I am. So starv rostwa mazulu.

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00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 1: Actually that's probably the best variation of' heard from four

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00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: from a non Greek speaker. Nice. That's awesome. Wait, so

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00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 1: how how do you say it? Okay? I was pretty close. Yeah,

441
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: I feel like you should be like like Fabio, he

442
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 1: just goes by one name, like because everybody who knows

443
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: Star Wars like the last name. It's kind of tough. Yeah,

444
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 1: I mean it's tough even for Greeks. Yeah, it's not

445
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 1: the name, the name. So, so before we get into

446
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 1: the articles you're writing and the stuff that we'd like

447
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: to get into, which there there's a lot to talk about. Um,

448
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 1: we've really only had one other Greek military guy on

449
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: the show before Bill who has written for the site. Um,

450
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 1: so I'd love to hear about your background and uh,

451
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: not really enlisting because it's a mandatory service, right, but

452
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 1: i'ming a member of the Greek Army. Yeah. So unlike

453
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Speaker 1: Bill who after his national service when professional for a

454
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Speaker 1: few years, I did my job my national service. So

455
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: I did it with the five seven five Marine Battalion, which,

456
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 1: unlike everyone else everywhere else in the world, marins degrees

457
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 1: fall under the army. So it's not like here in

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Speaker 1: the States where the Marine Corps fall sunder the Navy,

459
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: or in Britain were the Commander Royal Mary commandos for

460
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 1: lunder the Royal Navy. Um so it's uh, it considered solve.

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Speaker 1: Although if if I were to compared with here in

462
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Speaker 1: the States, I would say that the Marines and the

463
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Speaker 1: regular radar companies are vandias of so whites of in

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Speaker 1: terms of boded and the unit in which Bill was

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Speaker 1: it lasts are considered tier one, so to give a

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Speaker 1: rough equivalent. So, yeah, I did my time there and

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Speaker 1: I fin sed up with Army leh Q in opens. Yeah,

468
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: that's the Marines are a big deal. Increase, right, because

469
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Speaker 1: you guys have to cover down and like how many

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Speaker 1: different islands in the G and C. Yeah, so so

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Speaker 1: we have three marine battalions, but and we also have

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Speaker 1: the amphibious radar companies. Um, there are so many islands

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Speaker 1: and inlets, it's retricting something over the thousands. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that's the the main training focus on how to respond.

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00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 1: Whereas there the amphibious radar companies would will respond to

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Speaker 1: a small inlet being attacked by the Turkish forces. The

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00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: Marines would focus on how to recapture an island that

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00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 1: was attacked by Turkish forces. But they we undergo the

479
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: same training. So I mean the prophecios, who are professional

480
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 1: military rotap between units, so you can they can do

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Speaker 1: you stint the figures didn't in the Marrington, then go

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Speaker 1: to one of the amphibious companies or the mount radar companies.

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Speaker 1: So there's a lot of interoperable between us. I love

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Speaker 1: the that that old school ethnic tension between Turkey and Greece,

485
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Speaker 1: Like you guys, you guys go at it. Yeah, I

486
00:27:55,160 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: mean it's over a thousand year old conflict and we

487
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: are the the smaller ones, so we have to do

488
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Speaker 1: what we can and Turkey is resurgent. Looks like there

489
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Speaker 1: are Ottoman ambitions. It seems like they want to come back,

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Speaker 1: and that must make make the Greek government nervous. It should,

491
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 1: but jumping from their defense expenditure, it doesn't. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: at what point did you move here? Star wars Um?

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Speaker 1: Actually most of my family United States, so I grew

494
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Speaker 1: up in Greece, but I used to come every summer.

495
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: So it's uh, but I relocated permanently two thousand and fourteen. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and now you're you said you're getting your your graduate

497
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Speaker 1: degree undergrad So yeah, I went. Essentially, I was in Boston.

498
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: I begun with in a community college, and my end

499
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: I fought my way off to Hawkins to things up.

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Speaker 1: That's great, man, congratulations cheers. Uh and uh, you said

501
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: your major is history. Yeah, I mean it's very interesting

502
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: to me, and it's also the exist way to get

503
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Speaker 1: a degree from a grade school. What period of history

504
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: are you? Are you mostly interested in? Um? Post World

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00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: War two military history? Okay, so like the same as me?

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00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but you were pyes, right, Yeah, I was

507
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: a political science major. But you know, I feel like

508
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: that's kind of been my focus as a writer's in

509
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: writing about you know, contemporary more more contemporary military activities.

510
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: It makes sense with what we do because that's the

511
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: of guys we could actually interview, or the Vietnam era,

512
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: the you know, Korean War, vieion or some you know,

513
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: but you're not going to really be able to speak

514
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: to anybody was in World War One or anything like

515
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: that unfortunately. Now. Yeah, so I get it if you're

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Speaker 1: an investigative journalist, which you are, you know, kind of

517
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: plays into all that and doing the podcast. Um, but

518
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: any anyway, getting into some stuff that you've been doing

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Speaker 1: for the site. You wrote this recent article ken You

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Speaker 1: terrorists attack update the accurate story behind the s A S. Operator.

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Speaker 1: So there was this man whose former s A S

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Speaker 1: or actually I don't know was the active duty or

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Speaker 1: former he's uh, he's actively uh, he's no format military

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Speaker 1: history totally essentially the reserve components of the Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: he happened to be in Nairobi, Kenya, and he took

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Speaker 1: action here. I mean the article from you, an unwelcome

527
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: avalanche of fame has fallen on the loan Special Air

528
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Speaker 1: Service member who responded to last Tuesday is terrorist attack

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Speaker 1: in downtown Nairobi, Kenya, news outlets around the world have

530
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: speculated about the identity and outfit. At first, he was

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Speaker 1: a Navy seal from the from Seal Team three because

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00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: he wore a vel crow patch that the Seal Team

533
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: three seals have been seen wearing. And then more accurately,

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00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: he became an active duty s A S operator. I

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00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: should have remembered that actually read the article. According to

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Speaker 1: a news repsource, however, the SA S trooper is in

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00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: fact part of the British Territorial Army s A S.

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00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: That is the reserve component of the famed Special Operations Unit.

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00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: So this gives an update on this maybe identity. Maybe

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00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: you can explain what that means, because you know how,

541
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: let's try. I'm trying to make like an American comparison.

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Speaker 1: So like in Delta Force there's Alpha Squadron, Bravos Squadron,

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Speaker 1: Charlie Squadron, and Ranger Battalion. There's First Battalion, Third Battalion,

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Speaker 1: Second Battalion UH, and the s A S. There's twenty

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Speaker 1: two s A S which is the active duty Special

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Speaker 1: Air Service guys. But then there's also UH twenty one

547
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: and twenty three which are the territorials that you're speaking

548
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: of um, So the best comparison I can give you

549
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: would be with the special forces groups. So you have

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Speaker 1: the five active active duty the first, third, seventh, and ten,

551
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: and then you have the two National Guards of the

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00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: nine twenty, so that that's the best comparison I can make. So,

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00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: since olive are part time soldiers, some of them were

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00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: former active duty twenty two s a s. Others joined

555
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: up from civilian street underwent the same selection as their

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00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: active duty colleagues, although in a different time frame. There's more,

557
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: each longer because you have to compose it for their

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00:32:55,600 --> 00:33:02,239
Speaker 1: civilian jobs. Thinking, excuse me, I think it takes them

559
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: like two years to go through it. Yeah, I mean

560
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: it's brutal because and I think some of them call them,

561
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: some call them waken warriors or one of these. But

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00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: if you if you think about it, it's harder because

563
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: you have a balance a full time civilian job with

564
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: being an operator. I mean it's hard. Yeah. So so, yeah,

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00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: they used to be under the Special Forces Command the

566
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: equivalent to so com the use the use equivalent, but

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00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: recently in two thousand and fourteens they were moved and

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00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: I think because of over budget issues they were moved

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Speaker 1: under a new command called the First U S Intelligence

570
00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: of Balance and Reconnaissance Brigade of Weeks and Compassors convention

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00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: them units that special idea I S are but also

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00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 1: a few more SAD units, so like the twenty one

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00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: and twenty three as he is, and a couple of

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00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: other human intelligence units. And these guys, I mean they

575
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 1: still get the point obviously. I mean this guy shows

576
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: up in Kenya. Yeah, yeah, so essentially they can they

577
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: are they can either deploy individually or they can accument

578
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: twenty tours is it needed? So, I like the National Guard,

579
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: and do you have any idea what this guy was

580
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: doing in Kenya that he suddenly shows up in Uh

581
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: at the shopping mall wearing a balaclava. Yeah, so so

582
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: they are down there training the any and counter terrorists.

583
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: You need the right cas uh and yeah, and a

584
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: couple of years ago there was also another incident in

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00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: the West Gate mall and another he was forward though

586
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: he was he was a civilian by then. H I

587
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: want to see he was a Royal marine. I'm not sure.

588
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: The press changed their story like three times on that,

589
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: like first he was a para, then he was a

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00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: Royal Marine then he was sas and yeah it was

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00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: kind of silly. A brave man, yeah, A brave man,

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00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: A brave man. Yeah. So and we have to remember

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00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: Kenya used to be a British colony for taked. Yeah,

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00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 1: so there's this cultural connection between the two nations and

595
00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: Paras deployed her two for exercise every year. So it's

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00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,919
Speaker 1: not uncommon for British personnel to be down there. And

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00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: consider how close is to someone with above it makes sense. Interesting,

598
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: So you could check out the article on this man's identity,

599
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: which is can you terrorist attack update? The accurate story

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00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: behind the essays operator that's now up uh something else,

601
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: I know you wanted to get into that. That has

602
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: been a topic of interest I know for you Jack.

603
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: Uh the so calm war crimes crisis going on. Yeah, yeah,

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00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: that's that's a huge one. Um. I'm actually because there

605
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 1: has been some there has been similar incidents, uh internationally,

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Speaker 1: So you have enquiries in Australia and New Zealand about

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00:36:54,719 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: let's called war crimes, uh, although the music in case

608
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: appears to be different. So a couple of journalists wrote

609
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 1: a book about the New Zealand says allegedly committing war

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00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 1: crimes in Afghanistan. But it's by the day their case

611
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 1: becomes weaker. I mean, the military, which is very the

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00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: New Zealand military is very quiet about itself, very quiet,

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00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: and the keys I s is known to be a

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00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: fairly small but very professional force. Also. Yeah, and you

615
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 1: wrote an excellent piece a few months ago about them.

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00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: So and and I believe those two journalists alleged that

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00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: what they went into a village and executed a few

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00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: civilians or something like this. Yeah, but the military has

619
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: started publishing their own food. That's another documentation proved them wrong.

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00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, they're on the only defense right now. However,

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Speaker 1: in Australia, Yeah, with the Australian I say there um

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00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: allegedly some of them went of the of the rails

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Speaker 1: and began committing war crimes. Uh said in the pattern

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Speaker 1: and what I'm trying to what I'm currently investigating, is

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Speaker 1: a possible connection with certain units here in the States.

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Speaker 1: So the say the Australian I says, guys were from

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Speaker 1: the maritime troop, from one of the marietime troops. So

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00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: so they say, yes, they are divided in a more

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Speaker 1: bi land mobility, air troop and Marietime troop the specialized

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Speaker 1: in searching methods. And the guy said there have been

631
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 1: accused were from the Manetime troup. So you can still

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00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: connect a link. There a possible link with some of

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Speaker 1: the war un war crimes been taken place by some

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Speaker 1: and w N. Well, I mean, I can tell you

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Speaker 1: just based on conversations I've had with people in the

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Speaker 1: Australian Special Operations community and this is going back probably

637
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: four years or so now. I was told about an

638
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: incident where an Australian S a S soldier had cut

639
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:41,919
Speaker 1: off a Taliban guy's hand and I hacked it off

640
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: with a hatchet, and it turned into a controversy internally

641
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: in the Australian military as it got found out. Um,

642
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: and you know, of course I asked the question like, well,

643
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: why the funk was the guy even carrying a hatchet?

644
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: Like who carries an axe out on target? And they're like, well,

645
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: you know they out that because they've been working with

646
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: Seal Team six and those guys all carry hatchets out

647
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: on target. Oh yeah, so so yeah, the most probably

648
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: there is some connection, but I want to be sure

649
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,959
Speaker 1: before I go through with it. Yeah, yeah, And it's hard.

650
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: It's hard for them to talk, I mean especially from

651
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: for to someone who is not from Australia. They the

652
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: Australians have a and I struggle to put my finger

653
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: on it, but there's some sort of cultural nuance with

654
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: the Australians. How when you talk to these guys, they

655
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: think it's like, no big deal, like nothing's gonna come

656
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: of that, no one cares. And then it becomes a

657
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: big deal and they're kind of like they shrugged their shoulders.

658
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's something unique, I think to their culture.

659
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: Maybe it's because Australia has just tucked away so far

660
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: away from everything else that they just don't see it

661
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: in the same light. I really don't know, but it's

662
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: just kind of an had a peculiarity. Um. And those

663
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:07,959
Speaker 1: conversations I've had with them, they are nice looks though,

664
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: they are nice and I'm I'm very supportive of the

665
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: Australian Special Operations guys that I mean, the ones i've

666
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: met are quality dudes. UM. And of course, like these

667
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:24,720
Speaker 1: guys are not indicative of all you know, Australian military. No, no, overall,

668
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 1: it's a it's a good force, UM. But I mean,

669
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: they obviously are struggling with some of the same issues

670
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 1: we are here as as UH, as you pointed out.

671
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: But then again you have the question of why so uh,

672
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: it's here in the States and it's w and especially

673
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: Debut was allowed to discipline its own so not to

674
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: not to create a controversy of the unit, uh out

675
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: of the U because of the of the alt work crimes.

676
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: But then when you fail to discipline, you said the

677
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: pattern right, especially your ability, you're basically handing the guys

678
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 1: a license to kill after you keep covering it up

679
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: and covering it up. What you're telling these guys is

680
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 1: it's the facto acceptable behavior and not the commands will

681
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 1: cover for you. Yeah, exactly that. But we can also

682
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: you can also see it from another point of view

683
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: as them trying to defend not only their unit, but

684
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: also their selection process. Because if you if you have

685
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: opera the sco that have an underwent the art, you

686
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: selection process with all of the psychological tests and everything,

687
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:55,439
Speaker 1: and they become and they start committing war climes, then

688
00:42:55,640 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: that's something about your program. Yes, it says something about

689
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: the program and about the unit culture. I'm working on

690
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 1: a story right now that it's not. It doesn't involve

691
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 1: war crimes, but it does involve violent crimes UM here

692
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: domestically in the United States. And it's about one person

693
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: in the Special Operations community who it's amazing that he

694
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: was not screened during the psychological evaluations. That this person

695
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: very clearly it should have screened him out. And he

696
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: was even bragging to other people about how his psychological

697
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 1: exams showed him to be a sociopath without any empathy. Well, yeah,

698
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: and he was bragging the people about this, and they

699
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: graduated him through the course. Anyway, So are they so

700
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: hard to fill out the ranks? I mean that there

701
00:43:54,200 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: are really sort of Yeah, well it's a combination of things. Uh,

702
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: you can't they're not able to retain people in the ranks. Um.

703
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: Then they're also struggling with recruitment numbers. And then since

704
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: nine eleven, Special Operations was directed to rapidly expand uh

705
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: and become much much larger than it was before. Um.

706
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: So we're I think now we're seeing the the the

707
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 1: long term effects of it, and we're going to continue

708
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: to see those long term impacts for you know, the

709
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: next ten or twenty years. But and then you you

710
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: have to ask the the follow up, So how do

711
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: we deal with it? I mean accountability, leadership, discipline. My

712
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: my opinion for what it's worth is, I think you

713
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: need to go back to the old school, like old

714
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: school military discipline. Uh. You need to hold people accountable. UM.

715
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: You know, people who break the rules need to be

716
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: kicked out. UM. And I'm not saying over like a

717
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: little things. I'm talking about serious, serious stuff here. Uh.

718
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: You know some people UM asked me a lot of

719
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,479
Speaker 1: times like is it just like dev group that's gone

720
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: off the rails like this? And I have to explain

721
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,959
Speaker 1: to them, like, you know, all of these units after

722
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: seventeen years of war, they all have some skeletons in

723
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 1: their closet, all of them do. UM. But the difference

724
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,399
Speaker 1: is that in a unit like Delta Force, what they'll

725
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: do is they'll kick guys out. They won't necessarily like

726
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: criminally prosecute them in court martial them, but they will

727
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: kick them out of the unit. So at least there

728
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: is some mechanism where they're saying, okay, these are the

729
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 1: lines you can cross, and if you do this, you're

730
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: kicked out of the unit. So at least that stops

731
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: things from sliding completely out of control. Uh. And I

732
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: think that's the big difference in in dev Group, you

733
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: didn't have that. It just kept getting covered up over

734
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: and over again, and and you know, excuses were made

735
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:57,760
Speaker 1: for these guys and the funcing fun. The interesting thing

736
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 1: is that when people get it kicked out of the group,

737
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 1: they go back to the VAMIDIA and FIL teams, which

738
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: is yeah, and they usually get out of the military entirely,

739
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,919
Speaker 1: even if they have like seventeen eighteen years and they'll

740
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: just leave because they don't want to deal with the

741
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,720
Speaker 1: disgrace I guess of going back to the other teams.

742
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: M hm. So yeah, that's uh. I'm trying to find

743
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: possible links between the the different cases out there there there. Um,

744
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: you can also look at some of the links. There's

745
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: some interesting stuff that happened when like dev Group and

746
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: Delta were doing INBDS with one another like they were.

747
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: They were like bringing dev guys over and having them

748
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 1: go out with Delta on raids early on in the

749
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: war in Afghanistan. Um. And I know there's some friction

750
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: there as well. Yeah, definitely. UM. I mean this is

751
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: a huge topic and I think people are gonna want

752
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: to read more about it, especially with the recent stuff

753
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: with the seals. Um the name escapes me and the

754
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: most Chief Gallagher, Yeah yeah, which is is court martial

755
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: is gonna go forward. And it's interesting though because some

756
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: some former seals that are you know that I follow

757
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: on our accounts Instagram are very insupport of him, and

758
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: you know, are you know, free Chief Gallagher and you

759
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: know that it's all trumped up charges that the seals

760
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 1: he worked with are lying. I guess they're lying under

761
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 1: oath according to this narrative that they're all purjured, gonna

762
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: they're about to perjure themselves on the stand. A lot

763
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: of seals also that I've met, to be honest, do

764
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: you have the attitude of like, you know, we got

765
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: to get the job done no matter what. I don't

766
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: really care what these guys do. I've heard that before,

767
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,760
Speaker 1: as I've heard it from civilians also, and it's like, really,

768
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: you want American kids and we're talking about young people,

769
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: like a twenty two year old seal. You want to

770
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: tell these twenty two year old twenty three year olds

771
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: to go out and shoot children and hack limbs off

772
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: of dead bodies, Like really, that's what that's who we

773
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: are now. Um. So, I mean I understand war is

774
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:07,919
Speaker 1: an ugly thing, um, But at the same time, there

775
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 1: have to be some sort of standards otherwise, like why

776
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: are we even fighting the Taliban if like we're the assholes,

777
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: if we're not any better than them, but what's the

778
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: point of even doing it? And then the argument I

779
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 1: also always see um on you know, the side that

780
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: you're making too, is that oftentimes this type of thing

781
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 1: is used for propaganda. You know, terrorists can say this

782
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: is this is who Americans are. Yeah, for sure. I

783
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 1: mean I guess the enemy will use anything for propaganda

784
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: against us, um. And this is just one more example. Um.

785
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 1: And I don't necessarily blame anybody for supporting Chief Gallagher

786
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: if they don't know the facts of the case. And

787
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 1: I don't know all the facts of the case. I'm

788
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: not trying to convict him in a court of public opinion.

789
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: I think, you know, the court martial has to happen.

790
00:48:54,040 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: He deserves a fair, impartial trial. Um. But there has

791
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: to be some sort of accountability mechanism. And I don't

792
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: think that every charge or every court martial is just

793
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: the result of some weird liberal agenda in the military

794
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: trying to persecute our troops. Yeah. Um well, also on

795
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: the topic of the Seals Star Wars, you're working on

796
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: an article about an old school that grew up. I

797
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: don't know much about it, but if you want to

798
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: expand on that, Yeah, without any spoilers, Jack knows about it.

799
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:40,399
Speaker 1: So it's it's supposedly the mission that the same deav

800
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: grew from disbandent. It took place in the early nineties

801
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: somewhere in the Caribbean, and there are contradicted there three

802
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: or four different versions of why they did the mission.

803
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 1: The mission wasn't that, it wasn't in the there was,

804
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: it wasn't tactically difficult, but there are three or four

805
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: different the possibilities behind the kind of did So I'm

806
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: trying to to find old school the good guys to

807
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: speak with. I'm waiting to hear from a couple of

808
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 1: sources and try to see why, what exactly took place

809
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: and why. So Yeah, I'm really excited to read this.

810
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: I mean, as you guys know, I'm a huge, huge

811
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: fan of reading about or are doing stories on the

812
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: unwritten chapters of Special Operations history, and I think this

813
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: is one of those. You know, it's an operation that

814
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: you if you go digging through the books, you'll find

815
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: mentions of it, but no one's really elaborated on it

816
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: or gone in depth on it like you're trying to

817
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: do right now. Yeah. I mean I remember when I

818
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 1: was younger before I joined up to read such books

819
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: and stories and that's always intrigued my interest. So it's

820
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 1: great to actually doing the the investigating. Now, have you

821
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: spoke to any guys yet? Have you been successful in that? Uh? Yeah,

822
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 1: some some of them have come back, but uh, and

823
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: I'm still trying to walk through. So I know people

824
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: that we're in in the operation, or we're in a

825
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: deaf group of people who were star rostros. This just

826
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: reminded me of something. UM, I'll do this when I

827
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 1: get home, but remind me just in case I forget.

828
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: I know a guy who is an n SW historian, um,

829
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: and I'll dig up his contact information. I'll introduce you

830
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 1: to him, Okay, than man, Yeah, yeah, he will be

831
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: able to He will know what you're talking about. UM.

832
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if he'll have additional information or not,

833
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: but he'll know what you're talking about. WHOA, That's that's

834
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: great yeah. Yeah, I'll introduce you to him UM by email.

835
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: But if I forget UM, just jog my memory and

836
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: uh and I'll pull up his contact info. Yeah, yeah,

837
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 1: we'll do well. I'm looking forward to seeing this piece.

838
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,479
Speaker 1: I mean it sounds great and knowing that you're gonna

839
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,959
Speaker 1: be making even more contacts, this should be really cool.

840
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: I know this audience are you know, total nerds for

841
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: that stuff. They love hearing about, as you said, unwritten

842
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 1: parts of special operations Stavros. Did you read that article,

843
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 1: that Sean Nayler article that came out yesterday about the

844
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 1: CIA operation in Cuba during the Cuban Missile crisis. No,

845
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 1: I mean I does saw in the in the writers

846
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: for the link. It's worth going to read. I'm jealous

847
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: of of Sean Nayler right in that article. I wish

848
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Speaker 1: I had written it because it's really cool. It's really

849
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Speaker 1: good UM, and people should go give it give it

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Speaker 1: a read. Um. It's about a CIA case officer UM

851
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Speaker 1: who was a graduate of the Merchant Marine Academy and

852
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Speaker 1: he was working in the Miami station during the nineteen

853
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Speaker 1: fifties guests into the early sixties, and he UM he

854
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: ran a very successful network of spies inside Cuba, and

855
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Speaker 1: they played a very instrumental role during the Cuban missile crisis,

856
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Speaker 1: and his network of spies got eyes on the missile

857
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: sites in Cuba, and that was what led us to

858
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Speaker 1: fly the YouTube spy plane over Cuba, over that area

859
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: to then get um final confirmation that those missile sites

860
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Speaker 1: were there. So, I mean, this was a huge, huge

861
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Speaker 1: deal from an intelligence and ultimately a global political standpoint. Um,

862
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Speaker 1: it's a really cool article. Yeah, whoa, Yeah, it sounds

863
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Speaker 1: like it's I love such stories. I mean, yeahs sat,

864
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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it kind of rewrites the history of

865
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Speaker 1: the Cuban missile crisis because this, this ring of spies

866
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: was not known previously. All we knew was there's a

867
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Speaker 1: YouTube spy plane took the picture, blah blah blah. But

868
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Speaker 1: the only reason why Kennedy allowed us to fly that

869
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Speaker 1: YouTube spy plane over that site because he was basically

870
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Speaker 1: against flying that the YouTube over Cuba, um because over

871
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Speaker 1: fears that would be shot down by sam sites. The

872
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: only reason why that flight went ahead was because we

873
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Speaker 1: had human on the ground telling us that this stuff

874
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Speaker 1: was there. And how did it? Naylor the the link

875
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Speaker 1: reading between the lines a little bit. And I've seen

876
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Speaker 1: stories like this in the past about m c I

877
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Speaker 1: A figures um to me, and I can't speak for

878
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: Mr Nailor of course, but I think that the family

879
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: worked with Nail are very closely the family of this

880
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Speaker 1: um CI A case officer, and they probably want their

881
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: family member to be you know, known and recognized for

882
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 1: what he did. UM. So I suspect that the family

883
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: helped him out a lot and showed him where to look.

884
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Speaker 1: I see years yeah, yeah, and uh. And the the

885
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: guy his name was Hewitt. Uh. He was awarded the

886
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 1: Intelligence Star UM after his death. They gave it to

887
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 1: his widow. Um So it's cool. He deserves to be recognized.

888
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Speaker 1: I'm glad it's happening now. Mm hmm yeah, uh yeah.

889
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Speaker 1: So these are the stories I'm working right now, aside

890
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Speaker 1: from their news actor. Yeah, which you write a ton.

891
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Speaker 1: I mean, if people go to the website, they click

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893
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Speaker 1: all of your work. Um. Last thing I was gonna

894
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Speaker 1: ask about and I could. I don't know your involvement. Really,

895
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897
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898
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Speaker 1: the last time he was on. Have you had any

899
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Speaker 1: involvement in that, because I'm not sure all the guys involved. Yeah,

900
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Speaker 1: So it's essentially me and John we alternate months during

901
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Speaker 1: the the finger which is a very it's the best

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903
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904
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905
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913
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Speaker 1: the Navy, for example. So it's actually we provide context

914
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Speaker 1: for those who are interested in investing in some scompanies. Well,

915
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916
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Speaker 1: So if you want to become a member, go to

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Speaker 1: the finn Rep tab as. I talk about every show

918
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Speaker 1: at the news rep dot com really looking forward. Especially

919
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 1: that article on old school dev grew up as you

920
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: were talking about UM, and now that Jack has another source,

921
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: maybe that'll be expanded even more. UM. Anything you're promoted,

922
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: I have promoting. I don't know if you have any

923
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 1: social media you want to get out there or anything

924
00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: like that. Actually, no, UM, trying to stay away from

925
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 1: some good I want to stay away from it too. Man,

926
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: if I feel like if I didn't have this job,

927
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: i'd be awful lot of it. I would be for sure.

928
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:17,479
Speaker 1: I have no interest in being a air quotes influence influencer. Yeah,

929
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: staff rous, do you have to write a thesis paper

930
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 1: for your degree? I I hope not to, Okay, So yeah,

931
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 1: I mean it's unnecessarily I won't be an academic, So

932
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: I didn't have to, Okay, I got you. Um, I

933
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 1: just wondered because this deaf group stuff probably for for history.

934
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: The history department probably wouldn't let you write about that

935
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 1: kind of stuff because it's too recent actually speaking of

936
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 1: uh such topics. So last here, I did the mandatory seminar.

937
00:58:56,680 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 1: It's a year long course. So my final thesis, so

938
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 1: I had to write a huge paper for one and

939
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Speaker 1: he's in class. M HM was the strategic utility of

940
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 1: so Uh. Now it's a no brainer. I mean conventional

941
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 1: SO forces supports especially in Iraq and Afghanistan. But previously

942
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: that wasn't the case. So I went back and studied

943
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 1: the mom They say, yes, you know man and the

944
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 1: Rhodesian salt, the seal scouts, the light infantry, and the Redgion.

945
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 1: I say yes, and I did a paper on that,

946
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 1: and now it has been accepted by the West Point History. Yeah,

947
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: that's super cool. So I'm always trying to and probably

948
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 1: I'll try to convert some parts of it into article

949
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 1: pieces to publish on the side. Uh, I'm always trying to.

950
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 1: When I think of paper topics for my class, I'm

951
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 1: almost trying to do to do topics that could be

952
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:13,439
Speaker 1: rising an asking for the side. Absolutely. Yeah. Well, Star

953
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: wars man, you've been doing a great job. I really

954
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 1: appreciate it. I mean some of these articles you're writing

955
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 1: are like getting a lot of attraction, a lot of interest.

956
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 1: I think Star Wars is currently like our type or

957
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 1: top writer in terms of like getting hits. And I

958
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 1: mean I know some of these stuff he's been writing

959
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 1: lately has gotten a ton of traffic. Well it's it's

960
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 1: a team effort. It may sound cornly, but one team,

961
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Speaker 1: one five. That's a that's a good political answer. Stop ros,

962
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 1: thank you. Okay, I have bragging, right, but that's about it. Well,

963
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: next time we'll definitely do in studio when you could

964
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 1: actually get in here. I actually was gonna if you

965
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 1: were going to be in studio, I was gonna say,

966
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Speaker 1: bring a backpack because we've got some like Bob's Naturals.

967
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 1: We can hook you up with some mug from some

968
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Speaker 1: free books. We might have one or two more of these. Um.

969
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Speaker 1: I actually us actually have a I have a copy

970
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 1: of my book here that I brought in for you. Man,

971
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 1: I thought you were going to be in studio. So

972
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 1: the next time you make it over here, you let

973
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 1: me know and you can come in and pick this

974
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 1: bad boy up. Yeah, we've got we got a ton

975
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Speaker 1: of copies of Brandon's last two books. So there's just

976
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 1: a ton of free slag the next time you're here. Yeah,

977
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 1: for sure. That's made it the incentive for coming and

978
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 1: hang with us. I mean, it's it's weird because I'm

979
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 1: one of those guys who's met pretty much everyone from

980
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 1: the side of this. Yeah. Well, I mean you haven't

981
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 1: met you yet. You can come in and take whatever

982
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 1: you want, because we got let's see, we got Paul

983
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Speaker 1: Shari's book here, Army of None. We got what else

984
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 1: might you be interested in? One Green Beret Mark Giaconia's

985
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 1: book that was really good. Jack Murphy Gray Matters Spladder

986
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 1: my novel, but it's not a real Yeah, but you're

987
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 1: you're a history dude. You need you need hardcore, real books,

988
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 1: not not novels. Actually, this book from an upcoming guest

989
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 1: to be up his alley right in front of you.

990
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, on Vietnam, on the on the men on

991
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 1: the ground, Vietnam BOUCHI. Yeah, I'm a journalists. I'm excited

992
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 1: to talk to this guy. I think there's gonna be

993
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 1: an interesting book. Yeah, there was. I wonder if she's

994
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 1: in here. Who's the name of that French journalist that

995
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 1: jumped in with the paratroopers and Vietnam. I know you've

996
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 1: seen those pictures on on the internet. I don't know

997
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 1: if you know start rust, I'm not aware outside, but

998
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: are you referring did you jumping uh not with the

999
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 1: French with the Americans. Oh, she jumped in. She jumped

1000
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 1: in with American paratroopers and Nam. She was like a

1001
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Speaker 1: five foot tall blonde, you know, with like two cameras

1002
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Speaker 1: around her neck. I'm sure he will know. Yeah, yeah,

1003
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Speaker 1: well we'll get into get into it with them. But

1004
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Speaker 1: thanks for coming on, man, really appreciate and we'll do

1005
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Speaker 1: this again. Like I said, next time in studio. Thanks

1006
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 1: for having a day. Yeah any time. Thanks, talk to

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Speaker 1: you soon. Take care all right, great having Starbars on

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Speaker 1: Nick Betts. I saw pictures from the Grate Club event,

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Speaker 1: which was called an Oasis for Villains at some ball

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Speaker 1: or fucking mansion, which looked pretty cool. We have to

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Speaker 1: have those guys on to talk about the show and

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Speaker 1: the party and all that good stuff. Yeah, so maybe

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Speaker 1: next week we could add that to what we have

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Speaker 1: and and do a quick segment for minutes. I'm down.

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Speaker 1: I'm always down to have those guys on. I saw

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Speaker 1: pictures from the cry Precision party, which is always pretty

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Speaker 1: crazy every year. Um, but you know, I'm not. It's

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Speaker 1: weird because when I go on the floor there, Admittedly

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Speaker 1: I'm not like the biggest gun enthusiast. I'm all for

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Speaker 1: the Second Amendment. I just I'm not extremely knowledgeable about guns.

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Speaker 1: So as I walk around on that floor for like

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Speaker 1: five minutes, I feel like I've seen it all. And

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Speaker 1: you know, now they've gone their multiple years, I really

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Speaker 1: feel like I've seen it all. Dude, I want seven

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Speaker 1: years that our and I mean it's definitely an experience. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you're in this line of work at all,

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Speaker 1: it's definitely something you to go to once and check

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Speaker 1: it out. But the like four of that trade show

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Speaker 1: is just exhausting. Um. The one thing that I that

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Speaker 1: I do miss though to be fairs. Just like I said,

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Speaker 1: how Sean Parnell is there. You're on the ground and

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Speaker 1: and a lot of the guys we've seen on the show.

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Speaker 1: They're all central. Everyone, I mean, everybody I know is

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Speaker 1: there basically, yeah, you know so, and I mean you

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Speaker 1: like link up with old army buddies and and guys

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Speaker 1: who haven't seen in like ten years. And that's really cool. Um,

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Speaker 1: But the show itself I could kind of care less

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Speaker 1: about at this point. Yeah. No, I I agree, to

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Speaker 1: be honest, But if you are a huge gun guy,

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Speaker 1: it's pretty cool to see, oh for sure. Yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: gun enthusiasts you should definitely go at least once. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's I mean, do you consider yourself a gun enthusiast

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Speaker 1: because you're a sniper? You know, But it's it's not

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Speaker 1: like it was a weapon, sergeant. I mean, I guess.

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Speaker 1: I I guess I still am in a sense, but

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Speaker 1: because you're stremely knowledgeable, but it's not a good part

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Speaker 1: of your life. Yeah, I mean, I got I've said

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Speaker 1: in the past like it's something I kind of miss

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Speaker 1: because I really like shooting, um, but it's also like

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Speaker 1: something I've kind of put behind me. I still like

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Speaker 1: to go out and shoot guns when I have the chance,

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Speaker 1: but I used to like eat, sleep, and breathe weapons,

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Speaker 1: you know, and that kind of part of my life

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Speaker 1: is kind of behind me now, Like it's not like

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Speaker 1: something I don't I don't sit in my bed reading

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Speaker 1: books about a K forty seven's anymore like I used to. Yeah, Hey,

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Speaker 1: well you know, okay, knock you if you do. I

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Speaker 1: think some of the guys that this scot Winner is

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Speaker 1: probably in that kind. If that's your profession and that's

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Speaker 1: what you do, I mean, you learn everything you possibly

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Speaker 1: can about it, right yeah, um, all right man. We'll

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Speaker 1: hope you guys have enjoyed great having stab ros Son.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna wrap this up and then in a couple

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Speaker 1: of hours I'll be recording a new Power of Thought

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Speaker 1: podcast if you want to check that out. As always,

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Speaker 1: follow us at Software Radio. And I still have all

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Speaker 1: my books and t m s and manuals on. So

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Speaker 1: if you ever want to like call me up and

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Speaker 1: we can wrap about gun Nerds stuff. I'm still down

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Speaker 1: for that. Awesome. I mean, I think we should do

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Speaker 1: a show on it. It's been a while since we've

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Speaker 1: done a show unlike gun Nerds stuff. I think we

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Speaker 1: had Scott Whittner on. You know, you know what, I

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Speaker 1: really like talking to people who have like a lot

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Speaker 1: of experience in the field and have had to come

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Speaker 1: up with like improvised solutions, like fixing guns in the

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Speaker 1: in like combat situations, and just like weird improvised stuff

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Speaker 1: that is not in the manual. What about guys who

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Speaker 1: create the you know, guns out of all different types

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Speaker 1: of weird ship when they're in prison. I don't learn

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Speaker 1: about that. Oh yeah, there's that one guy who escaped

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Speaker 1: prison because he created a paper machee clock and it

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Speaker 1: looked exactly like a real glock. I mean, obviously he

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Speaker 1: didn't shoot, but it looked exactly was like a scale

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Speaker 1: replica of a glock pistol, and he like held it

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Speaker 1: to a guard's head and he's like, let me out, motherfucker.

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Speaker 1: But I believe people have created stuff that shoots zip guns,

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Speaker 1: like a little pipe with some black patter. I find

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Speaker 1: that ship pretty interesting. I talked to a guy. He

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Speaker 1: was an Air Force guy with an O D A

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Speaker 1: and uh. I think he was in Kosovo or Bosnia

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Speaker 1: in the nineties, late nineties, and he said a guy

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Speaker 1: jumped out from behind a building around a corner with

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Speaker 1: a zip gun. And a zip gun is just a

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Speaker 1: pipe with like a ball bearing looted into it with

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Speaker 1: some black powder and like lights this thing off. He

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Speaker 1: goes boom, points right at him and he's like, bro

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Speaker 1: to this day, I could not tell you where the

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Speaker 1: bullet went. If there was a bull He's like, I

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Speaker 1: couldn't tell you it just went. And he's like everyone

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Speaker 1: just like stood there for a second looking at this guy,

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Speaker 1: like what the fund just happened? And then we all

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Speaker 1: just brought up our guns and just hosed them down.

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Speaker 1: Crazy ship man. Yeah, all right, Well that about wraps it, Uh,

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Speaker 1: Free b K on Twitter, b K. I mean, uh,

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Speaker 1: every time you try to talk to me about politics,

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Speaker 1: it almost gives me a migraine. But you are one

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Speaker 1: of our favorite Twitter personalities. Nonetheless, we enjoy your rants.

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Speaker 1: Uh and hopefully you know the ship libs let you

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Speaker 1: out of prison. Maybe I'll have to talk about it

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Speaker 1: all right, have a great weekend, guys. You've been listening

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Speaker 1: to self Rep Radio. New episodes up every Wednesday and Friday.

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