WEBVTT - Pacemakers Got the Beat

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<v Speaker 1>Get in tests with technology with text stuff from half

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<v Speaker 1>on Jonathan Stricklin. Today we're going to talk about pacemakers.

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<v Speaker 1>So these little medical devices that are incredible. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>these are life saving devices that have made countless people's

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<v Speaker 1>lives better. It's impossible. It's it's when when the electrical

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<v Speaker 1>impulses of your heart are less good than they should be. Wait, whoa,

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<v Speaker 1>whoa electrical impulses, Lauren, Now you're talking crazy talk. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you mean electrical impulses. That's that's how the heart works.

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<v Speaker 1>There's crazy there. We we we have natural pacemakers, and

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes they work less well than others. But so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so so. Pacemakers are are small devices that are implanted

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<v Speaker 1>nearish the heart, in the general chest, airs, cavity, shoulder,

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<v Speaker 1>abdomen's where on there. They use low energy electrical impulses

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<v Speaker 1>to help control any abnormal heart rhythms um sometimes called

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<v Speaker 1>arrhythmias rhythmia. Thank you, I had an arrhythmia as a child,

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<v Speaker 1>did you. Yep? I had an arrhythmia and a heart murmur.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow that's exciting in the bad way. So anyway, so

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<v Speaker 1>those can be that your heart is beating either too fast,

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<v Speaker 1>too slow, or irregularly. And um, there are more long

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<v Speaker 1>words for all of those things, which right now there's

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<v Speaker 1>there's a tachycardia there you go, yeah, and breda cardia. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so those are the too so breda cardias if it's

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<v Speaker 1>beating too slowly, and tachycardia is when it's too quickly. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>there's also other conditions that can that can wrap up

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<v Speaker 1>into needing a pacemaker a k A. M. Atrial fibrilation

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<v Speaker 1>in which the upper chambers of the heart kind of

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<v Speaker 1>quiver instead of really contracting. Yeah. So, in order for

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<v Speaker 1>you to really understand what we're talking about here, the

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<v Speaker 1>heart is divided up into four chambers right right, the

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<v Speaker 1>left and right atria, which are the upper chambers, and

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<v Speaker 1>the left and right ventricles, which are the lower chambers. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So the upper chamber chambers, the atria, when they when

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<v Speaker 1>they contract, they force blood down into the ventricles, which

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<v Speaker 1>then when they can try to force it throughout the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the body. And so the combination of these

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<v Speaker 1>two contractions are what we think of the heartbeat. The

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<v Speaker 1>whole love dub dub is that. Yeah, So that's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the love the atria and the dub the ventricles, so

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<v Speaker 1>you know that there's just plenty of room for romance.

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<v Speaker 1>But so if if one of these is not working

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<v Speaker 1>out correctly, then it's it's a huge problem. Right. So,

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<v Speaker 1>if the atria are doing this fibrillation where they are

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<v Speaker 1>quivering instead of beating, then it's not providing the right

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<v Speaker 1>amount of blood to the ventricles to pump it through

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the body. That's all obviously an issue,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's another one too. Write there's also heart block,

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<v Speaker 1>in which the electrical signal is slowed or disrupted as

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<v Speaker 1>it moves through the heart. So again the problem with

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<v Speaker 1>actually the signal reaching the place where it needs to

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<v Speaker 1>go so that you have a healthy heartbeat. Right. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's like if the cover on your wire is a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit screwy something something to that extent, except the

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<v Speaker 1>wires your heart and you need that wire pretty badly. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's um. Unless you're the tin man, you pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much need one. And these conditions can be caused by

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of disease and other wackiness that could be.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be an inherited condition, it can be after

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<v Speaker 1>a heart attack, if if a heart attack damages the muscle, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there are injuries that can end up injuring the heart

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<v Speaker 1>as a as a result. Yeah. So there's lots of

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<v Speaker 1>different ways that this could happen, including things like just

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<v Speaker 1>coming out of a surgery that's unrelated to your heart. Sure, absolutely, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So so what happens when your heart lacks rhythm? You

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<v Speaker 1>can no longer do really crazy dances like the electric slide. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>true enough. However, it mostly means that your body might

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<v Speaker 1>not be getting enough blood, which would cause a tiredness, lightheadedness,

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<v Speaker 1>breathlessness even like fainting, organ damage, and and can potentially

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<v Speaker 1>even lead to death if it goes unchecked. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're talking about very serious stuff. Now. A healthy

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<v Speaker 1>adult has a heart rate at rest. That's what between

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<v Speaker 1>sixty beats permant something like that. Ye ye, so um,

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<v Speaker 1>mind's on the high end, which is actually not great.

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<v Speaker 1>It means that, honestly, that Jonathan needs to exercise more

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<v Speaker 1>so that I have a healthier cardio life. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>something that I am working on because it's a concern, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting I'm getting to a certain age um physically

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<v Speaker 1>if not mentally or emotionally, so I need to prepare

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<v Speaker 1>for that. Generally, slower heartbeat within that range is is ideal.

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<v Speaker 1>Um and healthy heartbeats are regular because we have, like

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<v Speaker 1>I said earlier, those built in pacemakers. Those are the

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<v Speaker 1>sino ar trial I said that right, Yes, which at

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<v Speaker 1>the at the at the upper right. Okay, gotcha. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's this is kind of the signal that lets

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<v Speaker 1>the atria no to to contract. So once that signal

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<v Speaker 1>goes through to contract the atria, what happens then, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>how is it then move onto the ventricle um, it

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<v Speaker 1>passes through another node, the atrio ventricular nod. Well, yeah, okay, cool.

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<v Speaker 1>So you've got two nodes that are doing this and

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing it in a very precise rhythm so that

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<v Speaker 1>it creates this contraction that that then pumps the blood

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<v Speaker 1>through the rest of the body. All right, And if

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<v Speaker 1>that's atrial node isn't working properly, the atrio ventricular node

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<v Speaker 1>can take over for it. But it's a it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>a weaker force, so it's not as efficient, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>as efficient. It's only going to get you up to

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<v Speaker 1>about forty beats per minute. Which, um, is why you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to encounter that fatigue and breathlessness and stuff like that. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So you'll you'll you'll live, but you'll be getting an

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<v Speaker 1>increasingly poor condition. Um. So what do pacemakers do. Pacemakers

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<v Speaker 1>can can regulate that they can help slow the rhythm

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<v Speaker 1>of a too fast heartbeat or help control and a

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<v Speaker 1>regular or too fast form or too slow them. So

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<v Speaker 1>they can they can monitor the impulses and override it

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<v Speaker 1>or pulses, I guess I should say, and override it

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<v Speaker 1>so that it has a more regular heartbeat and keep

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<v Speaker 1>someone at an optimal heartbeat range. Right. Sure, And and

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<v Speaker 1>if those if those two nodes are not communicating properly,

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<v Speaker 1>a pacemaker can help coordinate the electrical signals between them.

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<v Speaker 1>I see. So if maybe the cino ore atrial nodes

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<v Speaker 1>working just fine, but perhaps the ventricular ones not, then

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<v Speaker 1>this could help balance that balance that out right? Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>And it does this because okay, So, so a pacemaker

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<v Speaker 1>is essentially a very small generator hooked up to a

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<v Speaker 1>battery and a computer. Again, very small battery and very

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<v Speaker 1>small computer. You have to be implant the sure um

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<v Speaker 1>and wires are threaded from the pacemaker through a vein

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<v Speaker 1>to the heart. Um. Those wires being tipped with electrodes,

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<v Speaker 1>and the electrodes detect your heart's electrical activity and rhythm

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<v Speaker 1>and then send that information to the computer which will

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<v Speaker 1>monitor them. Um and then uh, it will direct the

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<v Speaker 1>generator to fire whenever the signals go go wnkey all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So what the computer is doing is looking for any irregularities,

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<v Speaker 1>share addresses that right. Um. It can also record these

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<v Speaker 1>signals for your doctor to upload and used to adjust

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<v Speaker 1>your pacemaker. Um using a wireless device. They don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to do surgery on you and check it because they

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<v Speaker 1>want to check it about quarterly, so that would be messy.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is kind of like a very important version

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<v Speaker 1>of a physical activity tracker. It's keeping data on the

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<v Speaker 1>activity of your heart and let your doctor know exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on right right um. In some cases, that

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<v Speaker 1>onboard computer can even be accessed remotely via the interwebs.

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<v Speaker 1>So for those of you who are privacy worried about

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of thing, the idea that your heart rate

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<v Speaker 1>is being monitored remotely maybe not for you. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>think I actually think it's super awesome, Like the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that that a doctor would have that level of granular

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<v Speaker 1>information about a pay stients health and and even be

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<v Speaker 1>able to preemptively tell the patient, hey, I'm detecting some

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<v Speaker 1>unusual readings here. Could you come in so that we

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<v Speaker 1>can make sure that you are in good shape, that

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<v Speaker 1>you're in good shape, and that it's not an equipment malfunction.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, obviously that would be incredibly important. And

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<v Speaker 1>if it were, you know, I mean there's some some

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<v Speaker 1>people have pacemakers who are who are basically doing okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's more precautionary, and but there are other very life

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<v Speaker 1>threatening ventricular diseases. Sure, sure, yeah, some models, called great

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<v Speaker 1>responsive models will actually adjust to your heart rate to

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<v Speaker 1>your changes in activity. Gotcha is like, which again makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, like if you're exerting yourself, then you might

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<v Speaker 1>need a different heart rate than if you were at rest.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh that's why I remember older pacemakers that was

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<v Speaker 1>a real challenge because they would they would keep a

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<v Speaker 1>very steady heart rate, which was great, but if you

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<v Speaker 1>break into a brisk jug your heart wouldn't be able

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<v Speaker 1>to to keep up when the in the computer would

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<v Speaker 1>start misfire. Right, So that was a real issue. Sure sure, so, um,

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<v Speaker 1>So there are three basic types of pacemakers. You've got

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<v Speaker 1>single chamber which carry impulses from the generator to the

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<v Speaker 1>heart's right ventricle. Dual chamber which carry those impulses to

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<v Speaker 1>the right ventricle and the right atrium um and and

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<v Speaker 1>also helped coordinate the timing between the two. Then you've

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<v Speaker 1>got bi ventricular which which carry those impulses to the

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<v Speaker 1>right atrium and both ventricles helping coordinate all of the signals.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, those are yeah for for as you can imagine,

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<v Speaker 1>those those are increasing in seriousness right right, obviously because

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about having to take over more and more

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<v Speaker 1>of the hearts activity. There are all there are also

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<v Speaker 1>related UM implantable cardio verter cardioverter did I say that right? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>implantable cardioverter defibrillators, which UM use not only those low

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<v Speaker 1>energy impulses that a regular pacemaker would use, but also

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<v Speaker 1>UM high high energy impulses when necessary to treat very

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<v Speaker 1>life threatening So like if you're for example, there I'll

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<v Speaker 1>t talk about some of the early ones of this,

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<v Speaker 1>but there are some devices that let's say the detects

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<v Speaker 1>at your heart that maybe you're going into cardiac arrest.

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<v Speaker 1>It can actually deliver a strong enough electrical impulse to possibly,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, kickstart your heart going again. So it ends

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<v Speaker 1>up being like you know, if you guys have ever

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<v Speaker 1>seen any medical procedural, you have obviously seen the person

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<v Speaker 1>with which they usually use incorrectly. Yeah, the clear part

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<v Speaker 1>is important, by the way, Yes, but now he's doing

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<v Speaker 1>poorly from too much electric Um. Yeah, that's ah. This

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<v Speaker 1>is something that's sort of an implantable device that does

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<v Speaker 1>a similar thing, although it does it in a very

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<v Speaker 1>precise way because it's delivering it directly to the heart

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<v Speaker 1>and um and and not every pacemaker does this. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>They can also, like Jonathan said earlier, be temporary if

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<v Speaker 1>you've just had if you've just had a heart attack

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<v Speaker 1>or surgery, or perhaps overdosed. While while the patient is

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<v Speaker 1>in the hospital with these kinds of issues, they might

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<v Speaker 1>have a temporary pacemaker. UM. And of course the permanent ones,

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<v Speaker 1>which is more what we've been talking about. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't implant a temporary one, right, Yeah. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>the earliest pacemakers are more like what you would see

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<v Speaker 1>with a temporary pacemaker, I mean, far the temporary ones

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<v Speaker 1>that we use now are far more sophisticated. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>orders of magnitude more sophisticated. But the ideas that you

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<v Speaker 1>would have an external device that would be able, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>anyone could monitor and also be able to like a

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<v Speaker 1>medical professional would be able to disconnect it once that

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<v Speaker 1>was a viable option, and wires would go into you,

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<v Speaker 1>which is kind of, you know, depending upon your level

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<v Speaker 1>of comfort, a little squeaky, but I'm honestly pretty squeaked

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<v Speaker 1>out by the entire wire through a vein thing. Yeah. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>just wait until we talk about the history of pacemakers,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's going to get really interesting. I'm glad you

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<v Speaker 1>took that research. So, in the case of permanent pacemakers,

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<v Speaker 1>batteries and generators usually have to be replaced every five

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<v Speaker 1>to fifteen years, usually about six or seven. It's really

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<v Speaker 1>the battery start running down, and they figure, while we're

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<v Speaker 1>performing surgery on you, we might as well change out

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<v Speaker 1>the generator to make sure that it doesn't start running

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<v Speaker 1>down to right right, So that way, and it actually

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<v Speaker 1>decreases the number of surgeries you would need over the lifetime.

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<v Speaker 1>Over your lifetime, right sure, yeah, the lifetime of the product,

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<v Speaker 1>your lifetime, um and the wires may eventually need to

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<v Speaker 1>be replaced as well, but that's that's more case to

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<v Speaker 1>case basis. Right now, we talked about in our Electronics

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<v Speaker 1>and f A a episode about electromagnetic interference and even

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<v Speaker 1>discussed a little bit about how people with pacemakers need

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<v Speaker 1>to be careful around devices that emit E m I,

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<v Speaker 1>which is pretty much anything that's electrical, right right, And

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<v Speaker 1>that's because, like any electrical signal, the impulse is sent

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<v Speaker 1>by pacemaker can be disrupted by an electromagnetic field. Yeah. So, now, granted,

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<v Speaker 1>in most cases, the instructions you get are pretty pretty

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<v Speaker 1>common sense, and stuff like don't don't lay down and

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<v Speaker 1>put a laptop computer or a cell phone or for

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<v Speaker 1>your heart. Yeah you don't wanna, don't wanna have like

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<v Speaker 1>your cell phone in your shirt pocket for example, right right,

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<v Speaker 1>You know, avoid brushing up next to strong household appliances,

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<v Speaker 1>industrial welders. Don't lay directly against the microwave as you

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<v Speaker 1>wait for that sweet sweet popcorn to be delivered to

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<v Speaker 1>your hands. You know, keep keep it. Keep your generators.

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<v Speaker 1>You're you're larger than your heart generator generator at arms

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<v Speaker 1>length that don't use jackhammers kind of that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>I never do and everyone thanks me. Yeah, so's and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, things like metal detectors are are

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<v Speaker 1>fine if they're you know, I it's you're supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>tell security agents like, hey, I've got this pacemaker thing,

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<v Speaker 1>please kill me, and and they will know how to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with that. Yeah. So it's it's certainly one of

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<v Speaker 1>those things that does mean, you know, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>take that into account in your lifestyle. Sure, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>also development that has, like we said, given a huge

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<v Speaker 1>number of people a chance at a healthy life that

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<v Speaker 1>otherwise they would not have. So it's it's phenomenal technology.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk more about how we developed this technology over

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<v Speaker 1>years and years of experimentation, some of which enters into

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<v Speaker 1>the Frankenstein Mad Scientist realm. And I can't wait to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it. But before we do, let's take a

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<v Speaker 1>quick break to thank our sponsor. Now let's get back

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<v Speaker 1>to talking about pacemakers. Now, in this particular episode, we

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<v Speaker 1>kind of divided up the research of it, so Lauren

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<v Speaker 1>ended up looking a lot at how the heart works

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<v Speaker 1>and how pacemakers tend to work. If you guys have

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<v Speaker 1>ever listened to for thinking, you know that I am

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<v Speaker 1>the medical correspondent. Yeah. Yeah, we we make her look

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<v Speaker 1>at all the squeaky stuff so we don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>because she likes squeaky stuff like um. Although slime, I

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<v Speaker 1>would slime is really great, guys. Although I would I

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<v Speaker 1>would argue glancing through your notes here for the history

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<v Speaker 1>that you actually got the short end of the squick stage.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what. This This is why never used the

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<v Speaker 1>phrase quick stick. This is a This is entering into

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<v Speaker 1>a realm that I actually relish, I because we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about a realm of scientific exploration that definitely goes on

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<v Speaker 1>that mad scientist side of the scale. I mean, in

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<v Speaker 1>that really cool kind of Victorian era. And this this

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<v Speaker 1>is the same era where we saw things like Mary

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<v Speaker 1>Shelley's Frankenstein be published, and so that's you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>and some of the stuff that was being talked about

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<v Speaker 1>and discovered at this time plays into the narrative of

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<v Speaker 1>that story, although in a much more kind of literary

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<v Speaker 1>way and not a scientific way. But at any rate,

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<v Speaker 1>this is when we had people really thinking about electricity

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<v Speaker 1>and its effect on the human body, and not just

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<v Speaker 1>the human body as it turns out, So you really

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<v Speaker 1>need to talk about the history of the pacemaker have

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<v Speaker 1>to go all the way back to the mid seventeen hundreds.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when it's when people started to experiment with what

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<v Speaker 1>they called electro stimulation, using electricity to stimulate muscles. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And in fact, by this time they were looking at

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<v Speaker 1>cardiac electro stimulation, so again using electricity to stimulate the heart.

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<v Speaker 1>This was all in animals at the time. Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>they would find recently dead animals, or they would make

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<v Speaker 1>an animal recently dead, and then they would use some

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<v Speaker 1>form of electricity to use on electricity source to stimulate

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<v Speaker 1>the animal's heart. Electric sources. Yeah, at the time, they

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<v Speaker 1>had they had laden jars and voltaic piles peels Actually

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<v Speaker 1>you should say voltaic peels. It's it's actually named uh

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<v Speaker 1>it's yeah, so peel is French, but it's voltaic peels

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<v Speaker 1>or piles if you prefer both of which we were.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean our batteries. They are viable batteries, but very dangerous, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and not particularly strong unless you make huge stacks. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So these are predecessors to what we consider the modern battery.

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<v Speaker 1>But that was when there was a lot of experimentation

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<v Speaker 1>going on. So they would use them to stimulate the

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<v Speaker 1>cardiac nerves and animals in an attempt to resuscitate intact

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<v Speaker 1>dead animals and thus, as my notes say, infect the

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<v Speaker 1>world with chipmunk zombies. Uh. So, there was a fellow

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<v Speaker 1>named Luigi Galvani who was credited with proposing electricity as

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<v Speaker 1>the mechanism that causes our muscles to operate. Now here's

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<v Speaker 1>the story. Uh, this is very possibly apocryphal, but the

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<v Speaker 1>the story the legend that Galvani was working on on

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<v Speaker 1>dissecting a little froggy and uh ended up building up

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<v Speaker 1>an electrostatic charge and picked up a scalpel and touched

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<v Speaker 1>the scalpel to the froggy and it discharged the electro

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<v Speaker 1>static charge, which created the spark and made the froggy's

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<v Speaker 1>leg twitch. Thus, Galvanni began to think of electricity as

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<v Speaker 1>being the means through which our muscles operate. He called

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<v Speaker 1>it animal electricity, as opposed to what was being called

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<v Speaker 1>heat electricity. So he's he thought that animal electricity was

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of electricity trical type of fluid that would

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<v Speaker 1>make muscles move. Before then, it was this idea of

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<v Speaker 1>laden jars were still based on the principle that electricity

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<v Speaker 1>was a fluid isn't that correct? Yeah, yeah, so we're

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this is obviously this is the early days

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<v Speaker 1>of learning about electricity. So uh. At any rate that

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<v Speaker 1>that research led other people to start to tinker around.

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<v Speaker 1>One of those was William Hawes h A W. E. S.

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<v Speaker 1>He established a society in London called the Humane Society.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not the Humane Society the way we would

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<v Speaker 1>think of it in the United States. You hear the

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<v Speaker 1>Humane Society and you think, oh, that's an animal rescue.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not for adopting dogs and cats. Know, this was

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<v Speaker 1>a a group that was dedicated to um well, salvaging

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<v Speaker 1>people who appeared to be dead. This was a big

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<v Speaker 1>concern at the time a lot of people. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't really have the more precise scientific definitions and

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<v Speaker 1>even today's debatable of of what is alive and what

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<v Speaker 1>is dead, and we you know, we didn't have heart

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<v Speaker 1>rate monitors. It was a morbid time, really, it's what

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<v Speaker 1>it was. It was a lot harder to tell and

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<v Speaker 1>so there was a huge fear of getting buried alive. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So there was also a similar society at the time

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<v Speaker 1>in Paris. Paris, Uh, I assume Paris friends and not Paris, Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>Eventually the organization would become the Royal Humane Society of London,

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<v Speaker 1>and very early on during this society's days, scientists began

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<v Speaker 1>to explore electro stimulation as a way of resuscitating people

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<v Speaker 1>who appear to have died and maybe who are not

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<v Speaker 1>actually dead but could be revived. So se A guy

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<v Speaker 1>named Charles Kite writes uh paper titled an Essay upon

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<v Speaker 1>the Recovery of the Apparently Dead, which is already my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite title of a of a paper since uh, since

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<v Speaker 1>more wrote Cramming more components on integrated circuits. Um, I love,

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<v Speaker 1>I love, I love these titles. They're better. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>best kind of research, really. So, according to the essay,

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<v Speaker 1>Ki used electro stimulation to treat a three year old child.

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<v Speaker 1>She had fallen out of a window and appeared to

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<v Speaker 1>be dead. They had called in an apothecary, who was

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<v Speaker 1>unable to do anything. Kite said that it was twenty

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<v Speaker 1>minutes before he could arrive to provide some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>electro stimulation to the child's heart. He used his He

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<v Speaker 1>used essentially electrodes to to deliver a gentle electrical shock

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<v Speaker 1>to various parts of the child's body eventually setting on

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<v Speaker 1>the thorax or chest really to uh and found that

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<v Speaker 1>he got a pulse when he did that, and claimed

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<v Speaker 1>that the child woke up was very groggy and uh

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<v Speaker 1>and and confused about her surroundings, but that she eventually

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<v Speaker 1>made a full recovery. What that tells me is that

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<v Speaker 1>this story is probably either exaggerated or there are some

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<v Speaker 1>big missing components, Because being dead for twenty minutes is

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<v Speaker 1>being dead is dead. You're not You're not You're not

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<v Speaker 1>bouncing back from that really, But any rate, it could

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<v Speaker 1>be that that no one at the house at the

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<v Speaker 1>time could find a heartbeat, right, could have been that

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<v Speaker 1>she had a very weak pulse interminute pulse. Even so,

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<v Speaker 1>at any rate, that's the story. From seventy six, a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of Danish scientists published a paper that was titled

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<v Speaker 1>Life Saving Measures for drowning persons and Information of the

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<v Speaker 1>best means by which they can be brought back to life,

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<v Speaker 1>and that also included electro stimulation of the heart as

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<v Speaker 1>a means of saving people. We're gonna jump ahead, so

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people researching this. In eighteen twenty, Dr

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<v Speaker 1>de Sanctus in The Medical Guide described the reanimation chair.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't show you a picture of this yet, have

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<v Speaker 1>I learned? You're gonna get a chance to see it

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<v Speaker 1>on social as well. The chair included bellows which were

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<v Speaker 1>meant to force air into the person's lungs, a metallic

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<v Speaker 1>tube inserted into the person's esophagus, and a voltaic peel

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<v Speaker 1>or pile, depending upon how you want to pronounce it,

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<v Speaker 1>attached at one end of the metal tube and the

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<v Speaker 1>other end was to an electrode. The electrode was then

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<v Speaker 1>to quote regions of the heart, the diaphragm, and the

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<v Speaker 1>stomach end quote to cause muscles to contract. If you

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<v Speaker 1>look at this thing, or illustrations of this thing, I

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<v Speaker 1>should say I haven't seen a picture of what I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if one was ever actually built, but the

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<v Speaker 1>illustrations of what it was supposed to look like look

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<v Speaker 1>like it came from Hostile or Saw or one of

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<v Speaker 1>those movies. It is absolutely terrified to behold. It makes

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<v Speaker 1>a dentist chair look absolutely comforting by by comparison, I

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<v Speaker 1>look forward to it. Yeah, experiments with electro puncture, this

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<v Speaker 1>is where we're really getting into the fun stuff. So

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<v Speaker 1>that is that is combining electrical stimulation with acupuncture. So

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a needle that you insert into the body

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<v Speaker 1>of your your subject and then you shoot electricity through

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<v Speaker 1>it to stimulate. Yeah, well animal, it was most animals,

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<v Speaker 1>mostly dogs. Actually, uh yeah, I didn't want to dwell

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<v Speaker 1>on that too much because I love my doggies. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>it turned out the early experiments anyway, it turned out

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<v Speaker 1>to be i'll use the word failure, So no Frank

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<v Speaker 1>and doggies. From this particular early experimentation, however, other people

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<v Speaker 1>would start to experiment with using insulated needles that could

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<v Speaker 1>deliver an electrical shock to a specific point, the point

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<v Speaker 1>of the needle in fact, and that would in fact

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<v Speaker 1>be the basis for early pacemakers. Uh. They did discover

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<v Speaker 1>that by refining this process that they could stimulate activity

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<v Speaker 1>in a heart that was undergoing cardiac arrest. And again

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<v Speaker 1>they were using animals, and essentially, in order to experiment,

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<v Speaker 1>they would over a neesthetize animals in or to induce

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<v Speaker 1>cardiac arrest. So we would see more and more experiments

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<v Speaker 1>between eighteen twenty eight and nineteen thirty, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>next date I have on my my list, and I I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to be too exhaustive with this, and also

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<v Speaker 1>and they get pretty weird. And uh yeah, when you

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<v Speaker 1>start talking about getting cadavers from recent executions, it starts

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<v Speaker 1>to get pretty grim. So I'm going to I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>skip over that. We skip over the entire Victorian era.

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<v Speaker 1>We skip over Jack the Ripper. Uh, listen to stuff

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<v Speaker 1>you missed in history class. They cover all that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff. All right, it's n That's when a fellow

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<v Speaker 1>by name of Albert S. Hyman develops and patents the

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<v Speaker 1>artificial pacemaker. Yeah, so this thing did not look like

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<v Speaker 1>a pacemaker as you and I would would recognize if

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<v Speaker 1>we were to see one, which are which are large

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<v Speaker 1>coin sized. Yeah, they're they're in the Grand Scheme of

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<v Speaker 1>Medical Devices. They are tiny. Uh, this one was not tiny.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a hand crank. Okay, So you had a

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<v Speaker 1>hand crank and it had wires cables essentially that ended

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<v Speaker 1>in needles that could be inserted into a person and

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<v Speaker 1>by turning the hand crank. There was also a spring

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<v Speaker 1>motor inside of it that turned a magneto, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a d C current generator. So essentially what you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>is you're turning We've talked about inducing electricity to flow

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<v Speaker 1>by using moving a conductor through a fluctuating magnetic field.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a way of doing that by hand. You

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<v Speaker 1>turn the cranks. It's turning it through this magnetic field.

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<v Speaker 1>That's inducing electricity to throw to flow rather and that

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<v Speaker 1>ends up supplying the electricity needed for the pacemaker. The

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<v Speaker 1>insulation needle would deliver the electric charge to the right

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<v Speaker 1>atrium of the heart, and by March first, nineteen thirty two,

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<v Speaker 1>the pacemaker had been used forty three times with a

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<v Speaker 1>successful outcome in fourteen cases, which is about a thirty

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<v Speaker 1>three percent success rate, which sounds incredibly low, but then

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<v Speaker 1>keep in mind that the essentially this was an absolute

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<v Speaker 1>last Yeah, this was the last last ditch effort to

0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:43.520
<v Speaker 1>try and revive someone. So it wasn't like this what

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<v Speaker 1>These were not the type of pacemakers we've talked about

0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:48.280
<v Speaker 1>in our episode where we talked about the things that

0:25:48.320 --> 0:25:50.520
<v Speaker 1>you would have in your in your chest for a

0:25:50.520 --> 0:25:53.920
<v Speaker 1>prolonged period. This was really meant to revive someone. Yeah,

0:25:54.359 --> 0:25:57.960
<v Speaker 1>so this is this is a little different thing. Patient

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<v Speaker 1>saved is actually better and zero percent. So, uh, nineteen forties,

0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:06.560
<v Speaker 1>that's when they started to Engineers and doctors began to

0:26:06.600 --> 0:26:10.560
<v Speaker 1>work on designing defibrillators, which, as we said, can play

0:26:10.560 --> 0:26:13.959
<v Speaker 1>a part in some types of pacemakers that you can

0:26:14.000 --> 0:26:16.720
<v Speaker 1>find today that are it's kind of a combination device really.

0:26:17.400 --> 0:26:21.520
<v Speaker 1>Nine an elderly man who in the literature is called

0:26:21.720 --> 0:26:25.480
<v Speaker 1>h N. They don't obviously identify people because it's medical,

0:26:26.080 --> 0:26:28.880
<v Speaker 1>but h N suffered heart ailments for several years, had

0:26:28.960 --> 0:26:32.760
<v Speaker 1>had heart attacks and other irregularities, and became the recipient

0:26:32.880 --> 0:26:37.320
<v Speaker 1>of atronic products. Nine O two M battery operated pacemaker.

0:26:38.080 --> 0:26:40.080
<v Speaker 1>This was not an internal unit. It was not an

0:26:40.160 --> 0:26:44.800
<v Speaker 1>implant in that sense. They did implant the electrodes so

0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:47.720
<v Speaker 1>that they had contact with the heart, but the cables

0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:51.959
<v Speaker 1>to the actual device were external, and you would, you know,

0:26:52.119 --> 0:26:55.840
<v Speaker 1>have to carry the pacemaker around with you and it

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:59.040
<v Speaker 1>was held outside the body. You know. It could also

0:26:59.320 --> 0:27:03.320
<v Speaker 1>detect spont aneas cardiac activity. It had essentially had the

0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:06.440
<v Speaker 1>ability to tell if something was going wrong. It wasn't

0:27:06.440 --> 0:27:08.920
<v Speaker 1>necessarily able to respond to that dynamically, but it could

0:27:08.960 --> 0:27:14.320
<v Speaker 1>at least warn a caregiver that something something was happening. Um,

0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:18.960
<v Speaker 1>everything was it was, It worked all right. The one

0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:22.560
<v Speaker 1>problem was that the area where the electrodes would go

0:27:22.600 --> 0:27:24.840
<v Speaker 1>in through the skin Essentially the needle would go in

0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:28.720
<v Speaker 1>through the skin um was prone to minor infections. There

0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:31.480
<v Speaker 1>was never like that you would expect from from I mean,

0:27:31.480 --> 0:27:34.000
<v Speaker 1>and that's part of the reason why the drive should

0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:38.480
<v Speaker 1>create implantable rightmakers exist. And we talked about, you know,

0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:41.480
<v Speaker 1>the fact that in our piercing episode or our body

0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:45.199
<v Speaker 1>modification episode, we talked about that there is a a

0:27:45.240 --> 0:27:47.919
<v Speaker 1>possibility of developing these kind of infections and they may

0:27:47.960 --> 0:27:50.159
<v Speaker 1>not be serious, it may not be life threatening, but

0:27:50.160 --> 0:27:53.000
<v Speaker 1>they can be problematic. And that was exactly what he

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:56.800
<v Speaker 1>had experienced. It wasn't an infection that was developing into sepsis,

0:27:57.480 --> 0:27:59.399
<v Speaker 1>but it was like he would have to have the

0:27:59.440 --> 0:28:03.479
<v Speaker 1>area ened regularly so that he could clear out any infection. UH.

0:28:03.520 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 1>In late nineteen sixty two, he underwent surgery for a

0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:09.480
<v Speaker 1>pacemaker implant, but he never fully recovered. In fact, he

0:28:09.520 --> 0:28:12.639
<v Speaker 1>never recovered from the surgical procedure. He died twenty days

0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 1>after the surgical procedure, So that was an unfortunate tragedy there,

0:28:17.080 --> 0:28:21.840
<v Speaker 1>but he did have lived for several years with this

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:26.480
<v Speaker 1>external pacemaker. In nineteen sixty doctor Robert Rubio implant a

0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:29.480
<v Speaker 1>pacemaker into a female patient and that pacemaker was fifty

0:28:29.480 --> 0:28:31.960
<v Speaker 1>two point five millimeters in diameter, which is about two

0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:35.359
<v Speaker 1>inches uh seventeen point five millimeters thick, which is about

0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:38.120
<v Speaker 1>point seven inches, so just over half an inch, and

0:28:38.200 --> 0:28:40.840
<v Speaker 1>waged sixty four point three grams or two point three

0:28:40.880 --> 0:28:44.000
<v Speaker 1>ounces or less than a quarter of a pound. Now

0:28:44.040 --> 0:28:47.400
<v Speaker 1>that one got power from two rechargeable nickel cadmium batteries

0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:51.720
<v Speaker 1>which were charged through induction from an external flexible coil

0:28:51.760 --> 0:28:54.440
<v Speaker 1>placed on the skin over the pacemaker. So this is

0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:58.280
<v Speaker 1>the way some pacemakers are recharged today using a similar approach,

0:28:58.280 --> 0:29:01.280
<v Speaker 1>although it's usually radio frequencies. But what we're talking about

0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:05.000
<v Speaker 1>wireless power here right where you can induce this charging

0:29:05.120 --> 0:29:09.080
<v Speaker 1>through um again, your your cree. It's all about magnetic

0:29:09.080 --> 0:29:11.240
<v Speaker 1>fields and electricity is really what we get down to.

0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:15.480
<v Speaker 1>So you would have to place this flexible coil directly

0:29:15.520 --> 0:29:18.600
<v Speaker 1>over your heart in order to recharge the pacemaker, or

0:29:18.760 --> 0:29:21.440
<v Speaker 1>really directly over the pacemaker wherever the pacemaker was located,

0:29:21.960 --> 0:29:24.560
<v Speaker 1>wherever the you know, the battery was uh. The stimulated

0:29:24.600 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 1>electrode for this was a platinum disk, so it was

0:29:27.320 --> 0:29:31.920
<v Speaker 1>an expensive piece of medical technology. But sadly the patient

0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 1>died nine and a half months after the surgery, because

0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:39.240
<v Speaker 1>she did develop an infection which turned into sepsis after

0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:43.560
<v Speaker 1>the surgery. So the pacemaker was working, but the it

0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:46.720
<v Speaker 1>was a side effect of the surgery. She unfortunately perished

0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:50.720
<v Speaker 1>from that. So early implannable pacemakers varied widely and how

0:29:50.760 --> 0:29:53.760
<v Speaker 1>long they could operate before requiring a recharge. So one

0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:56.640
<v Speaker 1>of them would only go like eight hours and then

0:29:56.720 --> 0:30:00.880
<v Speaker 1>you have to recharge it. That's pretty yeah, that's pretty yeah.

0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:03.200
<v Speaker 1>But there were others that could go weeks or even

0:30:03.320 --> 0:30:05.760
<v Speaker 1>months before a recharge, even in the early days in

0:30:05.800 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 1>the sixties. Uh this this also, I mean still today,

0:30:09.320 --> 0:30:14.200
<v Speaker 1>how much how much your your pacemaker is actually needing

0:30:14.240 --> 0:30:18.080
<v Speaker 1>to to create a charge will make your battery life

0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:20.920
<v Speaker 1>very right. So in other words, in other words, if

0:30:20.960 --> 0:30:24.920
<v Speaker 1>if it's only occasionally having to intervene, then you're recharging,

0:30:25.200 --> 0:30:27.080
<v Speaker 1>may you may not need to recharge it as frequently

0:30:27.120 --> 0:30:31.400
<v Speaker 1>as someone where it's more active more frequently. Um So,

0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:33.680
<v Speaker 1>in the nineteen sixties, that's when we started to see

0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:37.000
<v Speaker 1>the cardiac stimulator defibrillators, which we kind of talked about.

0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:40.000
<v Speaker 1>It's under called something else today, but same sort of

0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:43.840
<v Speaker 1>idea that the device that can uh detect when a

0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 1>heart beat stops and then try to restart it with

0:30:47.480 --> 0:30:51.560
<v Speaker 1>a controlled electrical burst to the heart. Uh. The early

0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:54.960
<v Speaker 1>versions of that were also not implantable. They were external

0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 1>as well. But now we've got implantable ones that are

0:30:57.560 --> 0:31:01.520
<v Speaker 1>incorporated with sort of pacemaker technology. UM. Now, as far

0:31:01.520 --> 0:31:04.120
<v Speaker 1>as the future goes, because from the nineteen sixties on

0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:07.440
<v Speaker 1>to the present, it was really refining that process. It's

0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:13.680
<v Speaker 1>just that miniaturization and in electrical stimulation yep, yep, making

0:31:13.680 --> 0:31:16.360
<v Speaker 1>sure that we were getting more precise and smaller. Those

0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:19.600
<v Speaker 1>are really the trends. So anything from nineteen sixties on

0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:23.800
<v Speaker 1>is more about refining that that design. Uh. Talking about

0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:26.600
<v Speaker 1>the future, miniaturization is going to continue to be a factor.

0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:28.760
<v Speaker 1>In fact, there are companies right now that are trying

0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:32.360
<v Speaker 1>to create pacemakers that are about the size of a pill.

0:31:32.480 --> 0:31:35.160
<v Speaker 1>So that tiny. So the reason why you want this

0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:38.160
<v Speaker 1>is not just because it it takes up less space

0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:40.600
<v Speaker 1>in the patient. Really, it's because the surgical procedures become

0:31:40.680 --> 0:31:44.320
<v Speaker 1>less invasive. It's less damaged to the body, less chance

0:31:44.400 --> 0:31:48.320
<v Speaker 1>for infection, UH, makes it less chance for something to

0:31:48.320 --> 0:31:51.400
<v Speaker 1>go wrong, because you're it's just it's just a smaller

0:31:51.400 --> 0:31:55.120
<v Speaker 1>surgical procedure. So that's really where we're seeing the future

0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:58.360
<v Speaker 1>come in as far as Pacemakers are concerned. And now

0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:01.840
<v Speaker 1>that kind of wraps up our our episode. We were

0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:04.160
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0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:07.000
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0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:09.880
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0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:12.160
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0:32:12.240 --> 0:32:15.720
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0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:18.080
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0:32:55.680 --> 0:32:59.200
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0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:02.040
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0:33:02.080 --> 0:33:04.560
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0:33:07.080 --> 0:33:10.520
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