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Speaker 1: ask our guests every day what they think is overrated underrated? Uh,
Speaker 1: this is this is our chance to get some stuff
Speaker 1: off our chest. You know what I'm saying. Let's start.
Speaker 1: Should we start overrated? Get what's cheesing you off? Man?
Speaker 2: Me?
Speaker 1: Thing's overrated?
Speaker 2: Me?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 3: Who me fucking millionaires man just getting away with it
Speaker 3: all the time, specifically this Steve Balmer, Kawhi Leonard.
Speaker 1: They had this one.
Speaker 2: It's Pablo Tore every fucking week now is like truly
Speaker 2: they're calling him the Boogeyman. It feels like the Kendrick
Speaker 2: Drake like beef, but except it's just like upsetting legal
Speaker 2: documents about how pretty allegedly but pretty clearly.
Speaker 1: Feel like that. Like that way, I had that same
Speaker 1: thought as he was dropping like his fifth episode where
Speaker 1: he's like, and here's more documentation, because so he found
Speaker 1: out that Steve Bamer like basically did this thing where
Speaker 1: he funneled a huge investment into this company that was
Speaker 1: ended up being a scam nobody allegedly knew was escape
Speaker 1: at the time, and then that money was then paid
Speaker 1: to Kawhi Leonard by that same company for doing nothing
Speaker 1: in order to get around the salary cap because they
Speaker 1: had signed Kawhi Leonard to a salary that was He's like,
Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard is one of the best players in the NBA,
Speaker 1: but you have this salary cap that makes it so
Speaker 1: no team can just come through like the Yankees and
Speaker 1: just fucking everyone all all the money and so the
Speaker 1: way he got around that was kind of this like
Speaker 1: sloppy thing where I mean, I guess it's not sloppy
Speaker 1: in the sense that we wouldn't have found out about
Speaker 1: it if this company hadn't been.
Speaker 2: And everything becomes public.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then everything becomes public. But he's been going
Speaker 1: through the documents and just finding incriminating piece of evidence
Speaker 1: after incriminating piece of evidence. His fellow billionaire Mark Cuban
Speaker 1: has been defending him, being like, no one would do this.
Speaker 1: This is just he's you're wrong, he was scammed, he
Speaker 1: didn't know, and then that way he just happened to
Speaker 1: invest money in Kawhi Leonard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like Pablo Torre is actually in the
Speaker 2: beef with Mark Cuban because Mark Cuban says a thing
Speaker 2: and then Pablo Torre is like, I actually have documentation
Speaker 2: that because Mark he was like, right, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's like if it happened, then he would have to
Speaker 2: do it this way and maybe like he would probably
Speaker 2: prop up the company, and Probabatory is like, oh, interesting, here's.
Speaker 1: Just that she did exactly that.
Speaker 4: He knows the whole case, and that's why it's really interesting.
Speaker 2: To him just to drip it out because it makes
Speaker 2: everyone look more fucking bad. And also the people that
Speaker 2: defend Steve Balmer look even worse because they're like, well,
Speaker 2: it probably was done this, or maybe it wasn't. Evidence
Speaker 2: out that refutes it, and it just again like sports
Speaker 2: is used like the one thing that people kind of
Speaker 2: feel is like free from like all the fucking chaos
Speaker 2: of the world. But in the era of big money,
Speaker 2: like that's completely gone. And you know, the insanely wealthy
Speaker 2: owner trope has been around forever, but like salary caps
Speaker 2: kept things somewhat under control, especially like in the NBA,
Speaker 2: Like for us, we've been talking about it for the
Speaker 2: last few years. The amount like the parody that exists
Speaker 2: in the NBA is unlike anything I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: It's super fun. It makes yeah, it makes it crazy
Speaker 1: that like the Oklahoma City Thunder, who were like a
Speaker 1: joke team three years ago, just won the championship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right exactly. And then like when you have people
Speaker 2: like Balmer just coming in and sloppily skirting the rules
Speaker 2: like a common CEO, it just like it just it's
Speaker 2: it's really fucking infuriating, and it has nothing to do
Speaker 2: with like the team or whatever, Like I I my
Speaker 2: fucking allegiance to the Lakers. Aside, Like just looking at this,
Speaker 2: it's shows. I think that's what it is. I just
Speaker 2: hate the fact that that entire way of doing business,
Speaker 2: it's like, well I'm a billionaire and I have my
Speaker 2: own rules, is just done so blatantly in the in
Speaker 2: people's faces. And now you have a league with the
Speaker 2: NBA where Adam Silver is like not not being as
Speaker 2: unequivocal as I'd like him to be. When he's talking
Speaker 2: about like put like laying the hammer down on people
Speaker 2: who circumvent the cap rules, It's like, are you really
Speaker 2: going to do it? Because Pablo Torre is really making
Speaker 2: it difficult now for the NBA to like not do
Speaker 2: you know, come down seriously on the Clippers. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's cool because he's a you know,
Speaker 1: he's a Politzer Prize winning journalist. He's a podcaster. His
Speaker 1: podcast is you know, once he gets on his previous
Speaker 1: thing that he got into is just the Bill Belichick
Speaker 1: and his twenty two year old girlfriend thing. That was
Speaker 1: a fun thread. And like when he gets on a
Speaker 1: thread like this, it's definitely worth listening because like especially
Speaker 1: with this one. It's a white collar malfeasance at a
Speaker 1: time when literally nobody else is paying attention to that.
Speaker 1: You know, the authorities are asleep at the wheel, and
Speaker 1: so he's able to like just go in and get
Speaker 1: the low hanging fruit. But for people who don't know,
Speaker 1: Steve Bomber is the richest owner in any sport. He's
Speaker 1: one of the richest people in the world. He co
Speaker 1: founded Microsoft with Bill Gates, and they had an episode
Speaker 1: recently just about the parallels between what Microsoft got caught
Speaker 1: doing and then in the nineties.
Speaker 5: This is a.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Steve Bomber was the head of the company
Speaker 1: at the time that they were caught doing anti competitive
Speaker 1: stuff blatantly by the US government and like forced to
Speaker 1: you know, it's like the one anti monopoly thing that
Speaker 1: has happened that like really the government pushed back on.
Speaker 1: That's how blatant they were being. Best detail I learned
Speaker 1: over the past week is because I think it's easy
Speaker 1: to lose sight of like how much money was at
Speaker 1: stake here, So Kiletter do not to do twenty million
Speaker 1: dollars I think from this company to do nothing twenty
Speaker 1: eight I think, yeah, okay, twenty Eighth, he's getting paid
Speaker 1: more by this company to do nothing. Then he's getting
Speaker 1: paid by New Balance for being their face. They're the
Speaker 1: face of New Balance, Yeah, face of their basketball thing
Speaker 1: like like, which was a huge Like the fact that
Speaker 1: they New Balance got Kawhi Leonard was wilder that we
Speaker 1: were like, whoa, Like, that's a huge get for them.
Speaker 1: That's like an amazing amount of value. The idea that
Speaker 1: this company would just pay him for doing nothing just yeah,
Speaker 1: it seems very unrealistic anyways, It's it's just it's just.
Speaker 6: Wild to think.
Speaker 2: It's like he's the face of a brand for X
Speaker 2: amount of money, but then he can get more money
Speaker 2: to literally just do nothing. Because again it's it wasn't
Speaker 2: it's it's not that he was ever doing anything with
Speaker 2: this company.
Speaker 1: They were just funneling money to him. But yeah, this
Speaker 1: is not abnormal for Steve Balmer, obviously as the head
Speaker 1: of Microsoft who previously got caught doing anti competitive things,
Speaker 1: but also just like billionaires, as we keep talking about
Speaker 1: on this show, like it is what they do. They
Speaker 1: rewrite the history. It's very important to America's ethos and
Speaker 1: the American zeitgeist to believe that these are remarkable people
Speaker 1: who are doing things with like creative normal brain power. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're amazing brain power. And then you know, so they
Speaker 1: rewrite these biographies where they like started everything from a
Speaker 1: garage and all this bullshit, and then you actually look
Speaker 1: at the reporting and it's just they find loopholes and
Speaker 1: exploit loopholes is what they do. And they are predatory
Speaker 1: and will do whatever it takes to make a bunch
Speaker 1: of money.
Speaker 2: Leen or whatever whatever their fucking worldview is. But yeah,
Speaker 2: it's just Pablo Tory, God bless Yeah, shout out to
Speaker 2: fucking keep turning the heat up on the league because
Speaker 2: that would be the next scandal, is if the NBA.
Speaker 1: Just kind of THEBA just looks the other way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because again, like you said, Bombers so fucking wealthy.
Speaker 3: It's like he could buy the league if he wanted to,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like it's just like he's
Speaker 3: his that's just looming over everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is something you think is underrated?
Speaker 7: Underrated? Deer crossing signs?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the little sign with the little deer doing
Speaker 2: like a little hot hop.
Speaker 7: Yeah, my husband hit a deer on his from work
Speaker 7: on Sunday.
Speaker 1: What did deer say? To him, fuck you bitch.
Speaker 4: Car?
Speaker 8: Yeah, oh okay, so, uh yeah, it was late at night,
Speaker 8: no deer crossing signs, even though it definitely needs it
Speaker 8: for the area we're in, but came out of nowhere?
Speaker 8: Did damage left the deer's okay, we didn't find the body.
Speaker 7: We're not sure.
Speaker 1: Exchange information and check in after.
Speaker 7: I'm pretty sure that deer didn't have insurance.
Speaker 1: And the way he fucking ran out of there, I
Speaker 1: don't want to God.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know this show, you know, trying to
Speaker 2: be progressive, but that's I feel like all deers, no
Speaker 2: deer has right every time.
Speaker 4: Every time they don't.
Speaker 2: And I don't like to paint everyone with the same brush,
Speaker 2: but they never have insurance.
Speaker 6: Ever.
Speaker 7: Well, I have to register to kill a deer, so
Speaker 7: why don't they have to register for exist?
Speaker 4: See?
Speaker 2: This is this is God. We need someone who takes
Speaker 2: this shits here.
Speaker 7: Need a registry for all deers.
Speaker 4: How fucked up? Did the car get? Uh?
Speaker 7: Not great? We're having it towed either today or tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, Like, couldn't you be driven any further?
Speaker 8: Yeah, but it was fortunate it was very close to
Speaker 8: our house, so and my husband's fine. All that but
Speaker 8: we don't know about the car just yet.
Speaker 1: Damn, it was a long time to ask if your
Speaker 1: husband's fine, the extent that we didn't even do it.
Speaker 4: I made a joke about how I punched a deer.
Speaker 1: I will say the deer crossing sign, like, if you're
Speaker 1: going to have a sign representing deer, like they have
Speaker 1: to be happy with that one. That is like the
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's silhouette, like the Jordan silhouette of like it
Speaker 1: is so mysticletic and majestic. It's like springing forward in
Speaker 1: a way that like I feel like they have to
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 7: And I'm pretty sure like they're antler sized. They were
Speaker 7: very gracious with antler sizes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah they were.
Speaker 2: See this is why are they getting all the preferential
Speaker 2: treatment in society. This is what I'm now I'm thinking.
Speaker 1: Also, like if you look at the moose crossing like
Speaker 1: I'm looking at a moose crossing one, it's all like
Speaker 1: hunched over, it looks drunk, whereas like the deer is like.
Speaker 8: Like l elf one is pretty majestic looking and yeah
Speaker 8: because elk towards here and oh.
Speaker 4: Yeah hel yo that ants.
Speaker 8: But I wouldn't want to be sucked up by an
Speaker 8: elk that that would take most cars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my rankings, I still like deer than elk moose,
Speaker 2: But a moose is like it looks.
Speaker 1: Like it definitely evokes moose. It's communicated. I guess it
Speaker 1: just like tells us what we think of moose. Like
Speaker 1: it looks like, yeah, I'm seeing some that are a
Speaker 1: little bit better, but the one I'm first looking at
Speaker 1: it just looks drunk like it just like watch this
Speaker 1: asshole are pretty hammered. You can just assume.
Speaker 7: They're angry too. But I'd rather have like these instead
Speaker 7: of like impressionist paintings of animals for crossing, because you
Speaker 7: have no idea what you're going to get.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, for sure. Too much.
Speaker 2: There's there's too much that someone can interpret it differently.
Speaker 2: It's like, I don't know, could be like a horse, yeah,
Speaker 2: whimsical horse with some kind of hairdo.
Speaker 7: Or a hunchback horse.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel like they should give like the when it's
Speaker 1: like the walking cross sign, like you can you can
Speaker 1: walk now. That'd be cool if like they may us
Speaker 1: look athletic and cool as hell instead of just like
Speaker 1: you know, like they would you want just the very
Speaker 1: stiff We don't get the swag. I don't what do
Speaker 1: you want to I'm not the artist here, I'm just
Speaker 1: cruising the Pelican brief. Yeah he's no, he's not Pelican brief.
Speaker 1: He's what's the one, yeah briefcase?
Speaker 4: Yeah exactly. Just now there goes a man.
Speaker 8: I want the woman like on the truck flaps like
Speaker 8: the woman that sits like yeah, I want that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and but what's that communicating? Ladies? You can now
Speaker 4: lay in the crosswalk?
Speaker 7: Do you want an insurance payment? Just lay here?
Speaker 4: But not near deer because they don't have insurance.
Speaker 7: No, no, they'll trample you.
Speaker 1: Fuck Bambi and the child the slow children sign. That
Speaker 1: child looks like he's up to something.
Speaker 2: He's like, there's a slow children thing that's not just
Speaker 2: like a far side thing like children. Yeah, oh sorry,
Speaker 2: I'm thinking of.
Speaker 7: The good yeah slow chill.
Speaker 1: I do remember that was that was like slow children? Whoa,
Speaker 1: that's so mean?
Speaker 2: What that means?
Speaker 7: Call in one area?
Speaker 1: Slow children? But they're strong, Okay, they've got good they've
Speaker 1: got good leaping ability.
Speaker 4: What is it?
Speaker 2: Sorry, there's the one for like the girl coded figure
Speaker 2: for a slow children play, but the head of like
Speaker 2: the girl, it has like a ponytail, but it looks
Speaker 2: like just one of those like Japanese kendama things like
Speaker 2: right here. Oh yeah, anyway, George Washington ribbon.
Speaker 1: She's also like being dragged by the boy one yeah,
Speaker 1: come on, come on, come on, we'll make it.
Speaker 4: We'll make it, make it.
Speaker 6: Oh, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 4: I'm so sorry, kid.
Speaker 1: Slippery ragging her into traffic.
Speaker 7: One less ky came out there, children at.
Speaker 1: Play dragging each other into traffic. What is something you
Speaker 1: think is underrated?
Speaker 9: Underrated? Okay, this is really dumb. But for years and
Speaker 9: years and years I have been driving around without a
Speaker 9: phone holder in my car. Uh huh, and I just
Speaker 9: got I just got one. And we're not talking about
Speaker 9: these things enough.
Speaker 10: It's amazes, Oh my god. Like literally, I want to say,
Speaker 10: the last time I had one was probably six ish
Speaker 10: more than five years ago, maybe even significantly more so.
Speaker 9: It really is the type of thing where I'm like, wow,
Speaker 9: I I literally have the fuck that. The other day
Speaker 9: driver is like, my phone's right, there's just right there it.
Speaker 9: Oh my god. So anyway, I think those little piece
Speaker 9: of plastic are pretty underrated.
Speaker 1: Prior to that you were just driving around with it
Speaker 1: in front of your face, with holding it up in
Speaker 1: front of your face.
Speaker 2: An exact same spot where the holder would be.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and I had a couple of phones. I have
Speaker 9: the Android item all I had like a real Goldberg machine,
Speaker 9: et Pro dash cam, all of it. Yea, But now
Speaker 9: I just have the one holder. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, always a boxing glove and a that's connected to
Speaker 1: a wheel somehow.
Speaker 4: Like on a plunger.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure that like skins for it and kicks something.
Speaker 9: Usually I'm usually driving down Banana Peel Lane.
Speaker 1: And is it a phone holder that connects into the
Speaker 1: air conditioning vent.
Speaker 9: Yes, but it is also one that has enough space
Speaker 9: so that it it's like I can still feel the
Speaker 9: air from that vent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. Sounds like you got a good one out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got you search Reddit you search read it
Speaker 2: to figure out what's one to get?
Speaker 9: No, that one, I just took that one. I just
Speaker 9: took a stab in the dard because I think what
Speaker 9: I think what I happened was the phone foul or something.
Speaker 9: I was like, let me just get one of these
Speaker 9: fucking things right now.
Speaker 1: I think you were doing the search on a broken phone.
Speaker 1: From the Falling.
Speaker 9: Yeah exactly, exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, phone holder for a car, and then you just
Speaker 1: hit the unfeeling lucky. But that's not even a thing anymore,
Speaker 1: don't Yeah, do they even have nothing? Oh no, they do.
Speaker 1: They do.
Speaker 2: Here, I'm gonna do right now, still own holder for
Speaker 2: car and guess what, assholes at Google. I'm feeling fucking lucky. Oh,
Speaker 2: it just fucking feeling. It doesn't even give I didn't
Speaker 2: realize what it does. It just sends you to what
Speaker 2: sends you to the top results. Oh yeah, that sent
Speaker 2: me straight to Amazon.
Speaker 9: Amazing, amazing.
Speaker 1: They should I feel like they should be like, I'm
Speaker 1: feeling really lucky and like you hit that and you
Speaker 1: just like get the thing whatever they want to send you.
Speaker 1: They're just like, yeah, I bought that shit.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put Tame and Paula tickets refresh. I'm feeling lucky.
Speaker 4: There you go. Just send me straight to fucking Ticketmaster.
Speaker 1: There you go, are good friends at Ticketmaster. What is
Speaker 1: something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?
Speaker 11: Well to keep talking about the Star Wars prequels because
Speaker 11: I need to just plug this star as.
Speaker 4: Much as possible.
Speaker 11: But I did search for this. And I'll tell you
Speaker 11: why I searched for Palpatine's lightsaber color because I have
Speaker 11: been brainstorming a list of possible like drinks beverages for
Speaker 11: the venues that we're performing at to like kind of
Speaker 11: create a special drinks menu for our show. And so
Speaker 11: I was like, oh, a Palpatini and it should be
Speaker 11: read because of Palpatine means lightsaber color being red. And
Speaker 11: then here, let me just pull up the list of
Speaker 11: other drinks I've crafted. Uh, you know, listeners and and
Speaker 11: and Jack and Moore, you're welcome to to riff on
Speaker 11: this as well. Let's see the qui gon gin and tonic.
Speaker 1: I mean unbeataful. That's beautiful, A.
Speaker 11: Darth vodka and cranberry or any vodka.
Speaker 4: Dark Father.
Speaker 1: So that actually worked, does it?
Speaker 7: Really?
Speaker 11: Okay?
Speaker 1: It's vader that that's a like apocryphal thing. People were like,
Speaker 1: and actually everybody would have known that his name that
Speaker 1: he was actually looks father if you knew the German
Speaker 1: translated to dark Father, and then you actually look it
Speaker 1: up and it like doesn't mean ship, it doesn't translate.
Speaker 11: Just like yeah, that just I think that's a joke
Speaker 11: from like Pitch Perfect where Anna Kendrick is like Vader
Speaker 11: means father in German, so obviously, but the important thing
Speaker 11: here also so is that the vodka that should be
Speaker 11: used should be Anakin sky Walker vodka.
Speaker 1: Having some fun.
Speaker 11: Now we're having fun. And then of course there's also
Speaker 11: and then this is where things get a little bad
Speaker 11: obi one canoe beer.
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, did you say this is where things
Speaker 1: get brilliant? Perfect?
Speaker 4: Sorry?
Speaker 11: Sorry I misspoke? And then finally, mace wine do wine?
Speaker 4: Do?
Speaker 1: Sounds like it's I'm going to get some mountain dew
Speaker 1: in there? Do I? Is it a mixture of wine
Speaker 1: and mountain.
Speaker 11: Wine plus a Cabernet savignon plus mountain dew? Actually, that
Speaker 11: sounds kind of good.
Speaker 1: I'm in I have seventeen years sober.
Speaker 12: I will relapse on that if.
Speaker 1: You make it.
Speaker 11: Yeah, sorry, but.
Speaker 1: Is it relapsing if you just injected directly into my veins?
Speaker 1: But it doesn't like I don't have to drink it.
Speaker 1: It just goes right into my veins. That's probably fine, right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeahs is fun? Those are great? And are do you
Speaker 1: do you think that you're gonna get cooperation from the venues?
Speaker 11: I hope so, I emailed all of them and said like,
Speaker 11: here's my brilliant menu. Do with it what you will,
Speaker 11: and if they don't do it, that's their loss. They're
Speaker 11: they're they're losing out on millions of dollars that they
Speaker 11: would have generated at our show.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm told millions part of my ignorance. But I
Speaker 12: did have to look up Palpatine. I can't believe his
Speaker 12: name's not.
Speaker 11: Jiz He he looks Yeah, all right, he's not doing
Speaker 11: he's not doing great now.
Speaker 1: He seems bad. All the people, all the forced people
Speaker 1: seem bad, like you would think that all the power.
Speaker 1: They're like, this is the best feeling. It feels so good,
Speaker 1: and they're just like dying like the whole time. They
Speaker 1: just look like absolute shit, which does seem to also
Speaker 1: be what happens to people who just embrace concern a
Speaker 1: bit of politics. They look like ship, but they also
Speaker 1: live forever. They also have force lightning powers. They have
Speaker 1: fingers lightning that comes out of their fingers.
Speaker 12: Yeah, they should call they should call whatever disease bandon.
Speaker 12: Steve Bannon has the Palpatine.
Speaker 1: Yeah he's got some. He's Palpatine in big time.
Speaker 12: Yeah, well, your skin melts and you never die.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Guy's been drinking a couple of Palpatini's about
Speaker 1: to look at his nose. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I know what you're saying.
Speaker 1: What is something you think is overrated? Kyle?
Speaker 13: Uh?
Speaker 4: Those I can cuss? Right?
Speaker 1: Oh? Hell yes, those fucking believe ds not that one.
Speaker 4: I hate you believe videos so much. I hate them.
Speaker 4: I hate them. I can't tell when they're satire or not.
Speaker 4: I don't think they're helpful. Maybe I'm wrong and too
Speaker 4: closed off and too like, uh pessimistic about it, but
Speaker 4: ultimately I'm just like, who's the who's It's just to me,
Speaker 4: it's it's like, uh, musical chairs for a bigot. Who's
Speaker 4: the fastest bigot? Not even fastest quickest? And then they
Speaker 4: come in and there every one of them is like, hey,
Speaker 4: will you ever change your mind? And that person goes no,
Speaker 4: and then they're like, all right, we should talk over
Speaker 4: each other for a minute, right, which is pretty fun.
Speaker 14: Have you seen Yaser Lester's thing that he photoshopped him
Speaker 14: in the surrounded background and he was like one light
Speaker 14: skinned n word versus a bunch of white conservatives.
Speaker 7: But they don't know I got a gun on me.
Speaker 1: See, I would.
Speaker 4: Watch that, so I really and it's something that I'm
Speaker 4: not happy to admit I find unhelpful because maybe it
Speaker 4: is just me closing myself off and it feels like
Speaker 4: a very sort of like, I don't know, I feel
Speaker 4: very pessimistic to be like, I find these wildly unhelpful,
Speaker 4: and I'm sure I'm very open to being incorrect about it,
Speaker 4: but god, I have never seen a clip of them
Speaker 4: and thought this helped anyone at all, except everyone could
Speaker 4: sit at home and be like, uh huh.
Speaker 1: Yeah he told him. Both sides are getting like are
Speaker 1: being like yeah, exactly, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 4: Another launch where everyone feels right.
Speaker 14: I think like I watched a lot of the like
Speaker 14: political commentators online, and I think they helped me with
Speaker 14: talking points. So in terms of like understanding talking points
Speaker 14: or history, then I'm like, okay, like I didn't know
Speaker 14: about that or like this other argument or whatever. But
Speaker 14: I also think that the people involved are like very
Speaker 14: happy to debate, and I'm like unhappy to debate in that.
Speaker 14: I think in that I think we shouldn't have to
Speaker 14: fucking debate human rights, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 14: I think that that's the part where I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 14: this is a bit self indulgent in that, yeah, like
Speaker 14: maybe it'll help more people like understand like the history
Speaker 14: of the talking points, like the politics of it all,
Speaker 14: but also like we're not super changing any minds on there,
Speaker 14: and it does give these fascists a platform, Like now
Speaker 14: I know some of the faces of these fascists, and
Speaker 14: but people are.
Speaker 4: Just submitting to being fascist. And I find it to
Speaker 4: be like you were saying, the what we have normalized.
Speaker 4: I hate saying stuff like normalized. I hate you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, you feel crazy using what we have
Speaker 4: allowed to be the normal debate is so far outside
Speaker 4: of what is like reasonable or or.
Speaker 7: Or anything like Hitler debates.
Speaker 4: Right, We're not debating like an allocation of taxes in
Speaker 4: a community versus near a city or something where you're like,
Speaker 4: I could you know, we're we're allowing equal footing to
Speaker 4: such there is an objectively correct and incorrect answer that
Speaker 4: we're allowing people to talk about like there isn't and
Speaker 4: it involves people being alive, and then someone's monetizing it,
Speaker 4: of course, But it's just I am maybe I just
Speaker 4: want to get booked on one I don't know. I'm tired.
Speaker 4: What's overrated? This YouTube show that won't book me.
Speaker 1: On the clip of this, and Kyle has been we
Speaker 1: had to restraint get a restraining order against.
Speaker 14: As We're like, wow, we were really unsure of which
Speaker 14: side Kyle it was on this whole time.
Speaker 1: Kyle said, please let me.
Speaker 4: I don't do the work. It's one of the It
Speaker 4: was one of the things I felt a little bit
Speaker 4: guilty about feeling is overrated, if that makes sense. But
Speaker 4: I'm just sort of like it makes me I don't
Speaker 4: think we are. It doesn't feel healthy. It doesn't feel healthy,
Speaker 4: and it feels like you you make you think something
Speaker 4: is equal if you are giving it a platform like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it's it feels like it comes from the
Speaker 1: same place as people being like, what, we don't need
Speaker 1: moderators on Reddit because like this is free speech and
Speaker 1: then you just like get shouted down by like thirty
Speaker 1: fascists and it's it does. I think it helps my
Speaker 1: visual imagination for like what fascists can look like.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I was gonna say, now, okay.
Speaker 1: They do have glasses like that.
Speaker 7: I'm like, it's your local NB barista.
Speaker 1: Yes, it certainly is.
Speaker 4: That has been a jarring discovery is a mute not
Speaker 4: knowing who believe what has been a tough thing to
Speaker 4: come to right where it used to be, you know,
Speaker 4: on mute, I know who's got a tiki torch?
Speaker 1: Right exactly? They all kind of all those tiki torch
Speaker 1: guys looked like I would expect people caring tiki torches
Speaker 1: to look like, and now they look like Hawaian. Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't appropriate, right, they look they look like the
Speaker 1: stars of sitcoms that had like special we go to
Speaker 1: Hawaii episodes from like the nineteenth fifty, yeah, you know.
Speaker 4: Wanted to go on vacation. They're like, we're actually having
Speaker 4: a nice story arc here.
Speaker 1: But yeah, they hipsters can be fascist too frequently they are,
Speaker 1: according to Jubilee videos. That's that's what I've learned.
Speaker 14: I also I also can't tell like I understand what
Speaker 14: you mean by like not normalizing it or like wanting
Speaker 14: people to have shame. But also like as a brown person,
Speaker 14: like I would rather know what people actually believe in
Speaker 14: their hearts. And I've had interpersonal experiences where I where
Speaker 14: somebody's fully switched up on me and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 14: so that's in my neighborhood. That's good. Like I would
Speaker 14: rather fucking know you know, yeah, sure do you like
Speaker 14: hate watch them?
Speaker 4: I have really really tried to cut out of my
Speaker 4: life doing that with things. But it's sometimes they really
Speaker 4: you know, a certain back and like the one that
Speaker 4: was just the guy going yeah, I'm a fascist, Yeah
Speaker 4: I'm aist. You can't avoid that. And so I saw, Yes,
Speaker 4: I saw a lot of clip from his clips from
Speaker 4: his of the various people, but especially.
Speaker 7: Telling him to go leave, like yeah, you.
Speaker 4: Just sort of like, I don't know, maybe I just
Speaker 4: but I mean.
Speaker 14: He kind of has a similar view because he was
Speaker 14: saying like when one of them was like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 14: a fascist, he's like stopped.
Speaker 7: K He's like, I don't have conversations with fascist. He
Speaker 7: just like.
Speaker 4: Appreciated that I have. So I commend the people who
Speaker 4: can sit there and do that. And I just I
Speaker 4: think rationing, Oh, ultimately, I feel guilt about the amount
Speaker 4: of concern you do and what you cut out and
Speaker 4: what you're aware of and things like that all the time.
Speaker 4: And then I'm also trying to like take care of
Speaker 4: myself in a physical and manner and you're just like
Speaker 4: it's crazy to small picture and big picture yourself through
Speaker 4: all of this. It's very difficult thing to balance.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did like and this is probably a bad
Speaker 1: thing that this is what gave me like hope was
Speaker 1: that the guy who he was like, oh, I don't
Speaker 1: debate with fascist fascists? Are you a fascist? And he
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, a fascist and like started like ugly
Speaker 1: laughing they are. Yeah. He got fired from his job
Speaker 1: and like I was like, oh, so there's like still
Speaker 1: some institutions.
Speaker 14: Then he started to go fund me where he raised
Speaker 14: like a fuck ton of money for.
Speaker 1: Being a fascist that's true, which is.
Speaker 14: Like that isn't That's the thing where I'm like, this
Speaker 14: is encouraging people to like try to become like influencers
Speaker 14: and like make politics content. And that's that's the part
Speaker 14: that I'm like, if you don't fucking know or you're
Speaker 14: a bad person, just stay out.
Speaker 4: Like there is something it seems like that is a
Speaker 4: new It's like a quick quicker than going on a
Speaker 4: dating reality show or The Bachelor or something is to
Speaker 4: go and go viral in a jubilee moment and launch
Speaker 4: yourself into something that's right.
Speaker 1: I do want to like see what the process is
Speaker 1: for like putting those rooms together. Like where are they going?
Speaker 1: Like is it what pool are they fishing from?
Speaker 4: You know, they're going to these They're going to these
Speaker 4: cities that uh, fascists and Republicans love to live in
Speaker 4: that they say they hate, right, they like.
Speaker 14: They're also influencers before, Like a lot of them are,
Speaker 14: like to the other people who said, yeah, a lot
Speaker 14: of them have either been like worked for Jubilee. Like
Speaker 14: some of the people are like picked by Jubilee multiple times.
Speaker 14: Some of them are like podcast hosts or something like
Speaker 14: some of them are already like they'll take Dane Kyle.
Speaker 1: There might be a chance.
Speaker 4: Yeah, one guy keeps trying to do movie puns. He
Speaker 4: keeps saying the wolf of Wally Street in the Jubilee
Speaker 4: video about order control. I do appreciate all it is
Speaker 4: just it's such an odd feeling for me, and I
Speaker 4: don't know what it is about them that feels bad
Speaker 4: and weird and it feels terrible. Yeah, you do, but
Speaker 4: there is something to like it's just like jarring. You
Speaker 4: just never thought you would see people be like, yeah, dude,
Speaker 4: I'm a fascist. You never think you'd see someone say that.
Speaker 4: But then it's like it's so normal now. I guess
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm like, honestly, I think the moment of political
Speaker 14: shock I had was the twenty sixteen election, and like
Speaker 14: I had an experience just like that SNL moment where
Speaker 14: like Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle were like, yeah, this
Speaker 14: is what America is, and all the white people were
Speaker 14: like what because I was with like my white friends
Speaker 14: and we were all freaked out. And then I like
Speaker 14: later in the night, I was like out of mic
Speaker 14: where it was like a lot of black people and
Speaker 14: they were like laughing and they were like, yeah, this
Speaker 14: is just normal for America.
Speaker 7: So since then, I haven't been shocked. Yeah. I haven't
Speaker 7: been shocked at anything honestly since then.
Speaker 4: Yeah, shock is hard to have. Yeah, you just it's
Speaker 4: weird that I let myself continually have disappointment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's beautiful though, let's get disappointed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it proves that there's like some hope inside. Yeah, what
Speaker 1: is something from your search history that's revealing better who
Speaker 1: you are?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 15: This is this is revealing about who I am in
Speaker 15: multiple ways, which is that I remembered I had a
Speaker 15: memory of tweeting something about how the xenomorpho is really
Speaker 15: just a huge wasp that can't stop drooling.
Speaker 1: But then yeah, like it drools a lot, Like it's
Speaker 1: okay in a way that like any other thing that
Speaker 1: drools that much, you'd be like, that thing is.
Speaker 4: Stupid, it's sick, all right.
Speaker 15: So here here's the train of thought that I think
Speaker 15: actually tells everyone literally everything you might conceivably want to
Speaker 15: know about me, which is I have a memory of
Speaker 15: this because I I basically was like someone else made
Speaker 15: a sort of similar joke on some social media and
Speaker 15: I was like, I already did that, and then I
Speaker 15: looked for it and I couldn't find it. So that
Speaker 15: was my search history as Andrew t Zeno morphlass, and.
Speaker 1: I couldn't find it. Did I.
Speaker 4: Did?
Speaker 15: I just think this? And so I don't know. I
Speaker 15: genuinely don't know. It seems like it's not there. But
Speaker 15: I also deleted most of my tweets at some point.
Speaker 15: Maybe it was in the deleted batch of tweets.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, go get me in trouble.
Speaker 14: With.
Speaker 15: All of those movies have some very serious characters saying
Speaker 15: a nearly completely perfect organism.
Speaker 4: I have to tell you it's only an okay organist.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can get you can get rid of that
Speaker 2: second mouth, yeah, second mouth, theol Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 15: It's fucking It can't reproduce unless a fucking like a
Speaker 15: certain number of humanoids look at its eggs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like stare at its eggs with their mouth open.
Speaker 4: Plan? Is that for propagating your sleep?
Speaker 1: It doesn't if it wanted to bring people in, if
Speaker 1: that was its strategy, right, Like, think about like a
Speaker 1: flower that wants to reproduce, so it's brightly colored, it's
Speaker 1: like it looks fucking so hot to bumblebees. Like bumble
Speaker 1: bees are like, oh yeah, I want to fuck that thing,
Speaker 1: or like you know, they or it looks delicious to
Speaker 1: other things. Well there is one that looks like something
Speaker 1: that I forget which insect it is, but then to
Speaker 1: fuck it.
Speaker 4: Yeah all right, well that's fine.
Speaker 1: But anyways, like this one is on a scary ass
Speaker 1: planet that you know, like just not does not It's.
Speaker 15: Created mist and eerie blue lights, and it looks like
Speaker 15: a fucking like demon.
Speaker 2: Yeah you see that, You're like hell no, yeah, why
Speaker 2: would you look at that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like they really need some they need to up
Speaker 1: their game. In terms of even if.
Speaker 15: Yeah, it's just that so many things have to go
Speaker 15: perfectly for one baby to be born, and that I
Speaker 15: think is not such.
Speaker 4: A good plan perfect evolutionarily speaking.
Speaker 1: And also when it runs, it's like not that yeah,
Speaker 1: like when it so when it pops out of that
Speaker 1: motherfucker's stomach spoiler alert for people managed to miss that whole.
Speaker 4: I saw Senator Cassidy's testimony.
Speaker 1: And it runs out. It doesn't run that like, it's
Speaker 1: like just like it's just like kind of scampers out
Speaker 1: like in a way that's you know, kind of well.
Speaker 1: Some of these are answered in.
Speaker 15: Alien Earth Jack. Then they hit series on FX it uh,
Speaker 15: they show more of the zoomorph in between, which is
Speaker 15: why this came up for me.
Speaker 4: Someone was talking about Alien Earth and I was like.
Speaker 15: Hold up, I already made this sick ass joke, and
Speaker 15: I just think I'm suing.
Speaker 4: I didn't make this. The sick ass joke is what
Speaker 4: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's any perfect, perfectly scary thing. Unfortunately that doesn't make
Speaker 1: it perfect for reproduction and survivor.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gorgeous.
Speaker 1: Nature's the pinnacle of nature's achievement.
Speaker 4: It's like, what the fuck are you.
Speaker 1: Talking about, Yeah, because there is also like the conceit
Speaker 1: is that everybody wants to use it as a weapon,
Speaker 1: Like it's just yeah, it would be the worst weapon
Speaker 1: to turn on you so fast. You heard of just
Speaker 1: a better gun if you really want.
Speaker 4: To pretty spooky guns in here, man, Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's not even the best gun in the like spaceship area.
Speaker 1: What did it even look like? Would it be like
Speaker 1: the car you know in Gouni's data has the vest
Speaker 1: where like a punching like a thought single pops out
Speaker 1: of would that be like just have a xenomorph that
Speaker 1: like pops out of a container, Like how are you
Speaker 1: going to weaponize that? You open your vest and then
Speaker 1: as xenomorp pops out of your chest and.
Speaker 15: Like yeah, every every time they've tried to depict that
Speaker 15: on screen as the xenomorph being a quote unquote perfect weapon,
Speaker 15: all it does is kill some quite a lot of
Speaker 15: the people in the area.
Speaker 1: It doesn't do anything that.
Speaker 15: A fucking like cruise missile couldn't do a billion times more.
Speaker 2: If you have the technology for interplanetary travel, I'd imagine
Speaker 2: your weapons might be better than just unleashing it.
Speaker 15: Truly, monster, But I'm so sorry, but like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 15: just like putting a big bug in the in the
Speaker 15: house cannot be the best way to do this.
Speaker 1: It's like the equivalent of like putting some bees under
Speaker 1: some door and then like walking away giggling yourself.
Speaker 2: And then they're like I was on vacation, I came home.
Speaker 2: There's like three dead bees, and.
Speaker 1: The bees killed a bunch of stuff. Right, Why would
Speaker 1: you do that? Man?
Speaker 2: It's such an insane way to kill people.
Speaker 1: If everybody stays inside this house, who we want to
Speaker 1: stay inside this house? We're in business. There's just too.
Speaker 4: Many variables, too many variables. I don't like it. You
Speaker 4: don't want to go back.
Speaker 1: And on the house, Yeah, bad idea.
Speaker 15: Do you ever want to use that spaceship for your
Speaker 15: own No? You just want to kill some of the
Speaker 15: people in it? Real scarily okay, like still.
Speaker 1: At the ancient like using an ASP as a weapon? Yeah,
Speaker 1: version of weapons. Unleash the ASP on Cleopatra.
Speaker 15: Oh your city with scorpions?
Speaker 4: Like what do you?
Speaker 15: I just I listen. I get that it's a monster.
Speaker 15: I just think the underlying research imperative seems shaky at best.
Speaker 1: Yeah, monster can't even close its fucking mouth. Yeah, what
Speaker 1: is something from your search history that's revealing about who
Speaker 1: you are?
Speaker 7: Wow, that's so kind of you to ask, Jack.
Speaker 16: Funny that you bring that up, because my actual last
Speaker 16: Google search was what is the newest research about octopuses
Speaker 16: being sentient? And so then I got on a a
Speaker 16: deep dive on that and I will be publishing a
Speaker 16: substack later today with your findings some of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, do you like eating octopus?
Speaker 16: And well I was raised on it, my whole life.
Speaker 1: Housing octopus right now, everybody.
Speaker 4: All over her face.
Speaker 7: Still something I've come to.
Speaker 16: That's all very sad, confusing sort of reckoning that I
Speaker 16: have to be honest with myself about because I come
Speaker 16: from a diving family, so I've eaten it my whole
Speaker 16: life quite a bit.
Speaker 1: And diving not like competitive pool diving, but.
Speaker 16: Diving in the ocean, and like catching their diving.
Speaker 4: Yeah all that.
Speaker 16: No, Actually, Jack, I'm very sorry to correct you, but
Speaker 16: the correct nomenclature at this time has been changed back
Speaker 16: to octopuses, not like OCTOPI like when we were taught
Speaker 16: when we were young.
Speaker 1: Well, just correct, both of you. I said catching octopus
Speaker 1: like catching fish instead of fishes. So you're both wrong,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I.
Speaker 16: Can see where you were going with that.
Speaker 1: One fish is a word, No, I mean fishes in
Speaker 1: terms of the present. Yeah, I got a lot of
Speaker 1: table it's nine eleven, all right, it's yeah, you're you
Speaker 1: gotta give me a break.
Speaker 4: But you can't blame it all nine eleven.
Speaker 1: I can't blame it all on nine eleven. But it
Speaker 1: certainly didn't help Miles.
Speaker 2: Wait, so then are you so now you're a little
Speaker 2: bit because I feel the same way because everything every
Speaker 2: time you see a documentary or something about an octopus, like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, they're fucking there.
Speaker 4: They know, they know.
Speaker 16: Apparently they're sentient, and they can recognize faces. They're extremely intelligent.
Speaker 16: They can edit their own social which is the pea
Speaker 16: cursor to editing their own DNA, and so like, you know,
Speaker 16: there's all this new research coming out about it, and
Speaker 16: it's basically to me, I'm like, oh my god, it's
Speaker 16: like eating a dog, and I just don't feel like
Speaker 16: it's ethical, even though you know, I eat cows, which
Speaker 16: I do feel guilty about every day as well, even
Speaker 16: though I don't foresee stopping.
Speaker 2: But you're an athletic specimen. You gotta keep you got
Speaker 2: to pack in the protest.
Speaker 16: I am a carnivore, but I'm deciding I'm making an
Speaker 16: executive decision. I think to stop eating octopus going forward.
Speaker 2: Yeah, octopus is so such is so prevalent in like
Speaker 2: Japanese food too, that like I was raised eating like takoyaki,
Speaker 2: which is like first ball thing, or like taco wassa,
Speaker 2: which is like what like wassa be root with like
Speaker 2: raw octopus. It's like a really good little side thing.
Speaker 2: And yeah, every time I like see that, it is
Speaker 2: just sort of like co fuck.
Speaker 16: But I've noticed I'm varying of guilt inside me like
Speaker 16: the last year or so. And you know, I am
Speaker 16: very very addicted to TikTok, so I'm really in taking
Speaker 16: a lot of info at all time. Good good, So
Speaker 16: I just had to make the decision.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well, I mean they sound more advanced than
Speaker 1: like the DNA RNA. Yeah, like that sounds I don't
Speaker 1: like I've tried that before. It hasn't totally worked out
Speaker 1: the ability to edit my own DNA and RNA just
Speaker 1: with sheer tyranny of will. So that's pretty pretty impressive.
Speaker 1: They don't they don't live long lives. I've long had
Speaker 1: this theory that octopus, octopi, octopuses, octopuces, octopises would be
Speaker 1: way more advanced if like they they they would run
Speaker 1: the globe and be like waging wars and or not,
Speaker 1: you know, just being cool. But like they, we would
Speaker 1: work for octopuses if they just had longer lifespans.
Speaker 16: Well, well, there also have been discovering new species and
Speaker 16: are saying that there are many other octopus species that
Speaker 16: we haven't even discovered yet, and that they are possibly
Speaker 16: linked to our own evolutionary us. Maybe I don't know,
Speaker 16: or extraterrestrial we'll see. At the risk of the listeners
Speaker 16: thinking I'm a.
Speaker 1: Total quack, yeah, they would never, they would never. No, No,
Speaker 1: you're goaded, You're gods with the sauce, Like.
Speaker 16: Yeah, I'm some odd special. I only found out I'm
Speaker 16: autistic six months ago. But it explains a lot, Like
Speaker 16: I mean, I like, my whole life really makes sense now,
Speaker 16: Like I mean, I'm like, I complain now, I have
Speaker 16: so much stuff to do, and then I spent like
Speaker 16: all morning like just researching about octopus.
Speaker 1: Why I don't know. No, that's the info you needed
Speaker 1: what I needed, I guess what is something you think
Speaker 1: is over efficiency.
Speaker 17: I think I spent a time, a lot of time
Speaker 17: studying algorithms, studying how people optimize for things, and I
Speaker 17: don't think that's where we find meaning. And things like
Speaker 17: uber eats, like delivering something straight to your doorstep. You
Speaker 17: don't experience the friction that makes life feel worth living.
Speaker 17: You don't bump into your friend in the street, you
Speaker 17: don't interact with your local community. The efficiency of algorithms
Speaker 17: and how everything is streamlined in society is kind of
Speaker 17: boring to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, unless you're yeah, unless you hate running
Speaker 2: into people you went to high school with in public
Speaker 2: when you're high and you just want to get taco
Speaker 2: bell just just quietly, there's.
Speaker 4: A time employece Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I always found people to be an impediment to the
Speaker 1: efficiency of commerce, and so yeah, that's why I'm really
Speaker 1: excited about this new direction that our society has taken.
Speaker 1: This This actually gets to kind of my first question
Speaker 1: for you is just you know, the difference between I
Speaker 1: feel like you did a post on like quant speak
Speaker 1: and like how the language of efficiency is sort of
Speaker 1: bleeding in. Like I one example that I've noticed I
Speaker 1: don't know if this would be categorized the same in yearbook,
Speaker 1: but like the phrase replacement level is a thing that
Speaker 1: I've like from the world of sports analytics, which is
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, they're like an average player, but it
Speaker 1: like adds this sort of dark fascist like Thomas the
Speaker 1: tank engine thing, where like everybody is just replaceable in CHANGEABI. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: people as commodities. Like so I do I notice that
Speaker 1: as a as a newish trend sort of vying with
Speaker 1: the more broad trends of like language. It seems too
Speaker 1: historically and even modern like today feel it's like a
Speaker 1: democratic phenomenon. It's like not top down and it's you know,
Speaker 1: it comes from like teenagers or like frequently persecuted minority groups,
Speaker 1: and like it's a way for people without officially sanctioned
Speaker 1: power to like weird wield their creativity and like power,
Speaker 1: which is I think beautiful. And that's what you see
Speaker 1: with a lot of these linguistic trends that scare people online.
Speaker 1: But then yeah, I do see also, you know, whether
Speaker 1: it be the world of like you know, like analytics
Speaker 1: people are stat people, or just like the corporate world,
Speaker 1: you know, creating these new phrases I feel like that's
Speaker 1: sort of an interesting like dark and light side battle
Speaker 1: that we see in linguistics happening all the time. Do
Speaker 1: you think about it that way at all?
Speaker 6: That's so interesting?
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 17: I think there's each community always finds the best way
Speaker 17: to speak for that community, and it changes as the
Speaker 17: vibe changes.
Speaker 4: Again, I think the vibe is important here.
Speaker 17: It's very probably true that since the moneyball era started,
Speaker 17: the sports language has gotten more about like quantifying things,
Speaker 17: and you're talking more about things like RBIs than you
Speaker 17: used to. Probably people care about stats a lot more.
Speaker 17: I think as communities have shared values, language emerges to
Speaker 17: reflect those values. So the video you were referencing was
Speaker 17: about how math nerds and cs people kind of find
Speaker 17: streamline optimized ways of communicating. I think that's definitely true,
Speaker 17: because their goal is to find efficient ways, maybe mathematically,
Speaker 17: to express things. Same things happening with middle schoolers right.
Speaker 17: Middle schoolers are just vibing in that they are using
Speaker 17: language to connect with other middle schoolers, to differentiate their
Speaker 17: identity from adults. And that distinction between top down and
Speaker 17: bottom up is kind of constant that we always impose
Speaker 17: like a layer, like through dictionaries or through formal rules
Speaker 17: of what language is supposed to be, but then in
Speaker 17: reality that doesn't fit onto everybody, and then different communities
Speaker 17: find their own ways of expressing themselves.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I feel like, I mean it's a fit.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: They're trying to find the most efficient way to communicate,
Speaker 1: but they're also trying to make each other laugh and
Speaker 1: trying to impress people, you know. And like there's this
Speaker 1: book about the evolution of birds and the role of
Speaker 1: beauty and like how birds evolved, and so like, you know,
Speaker 1: we tend to think of, you know, the way evolution
Speaker 1: works and as like the survival of the fittest being,
Speaker 1: like you know, it's just everything is a something that
Speaker 1: was evolved to like feed or like defeat or dominate
Speaker 1: the other side. And it's like, you know, a lot
Speaker 1: of the stuff that birds have evolved to do is
Speaker 1: just to be like beautiful in a way that is
Speaker 1: like attract some other mate, you know. And so I
Speaker 1: feel like, similarly, in language, you have how to most
Speaker 1: efficiently communicate your meaning, but also how to do so
Speaker 1: in a way that is just like fun, you know,
Speaker 1: and like makes people laugh and makes people impressed by
Speaker 1: your creativity a little bit.
Speaker 17: Yeah, I don't think everything is about efficiency, right. I
Speaker 17: think it can also be you're joking, you're kind of
Speaker 17: trying to communicate that your chill or laid back those
Speaker 17: things aren't efficient. If you're being efficient, that it isn't
Speaker 17: chill or laid back. And I don't know, like surper communities,
Speaker 17: like we'll talk differently than the quants, you know, because
Speaker 17: they have a different goal in mind, they have a
Speaker 17: different vibe of how they're approaching language.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does feel like teenagers, Like how we experience
Speaker 1: language being spoken by teenagers today and then how we
Speaker 1: actually use language tho was spoken by teenagers in years
Speaker 1: past is like kind of you know, people don't realize
Speaker 1: how much of our modern dialect is just created by
Speaker 1: sort of younger people. Or you know, I've heard people
Speaker 1: talk about upspeak being a thing that was started by
Speaker 1: teen girls and criticized and criticized and criticized, and until
Speaker 1: the people criticizing it, we're also doing it with upspeak.
Speaker 1: You know, how do you like it is that sort
Speaker 1: of a constant in your study of like how language evolves,
Speaker 1: or also like persecuted minority groups like and you.
Speaker 17: See you seem to really know what's happening that it
Speaker 17: often does come out of these minority groups because they
Speaker 17: have the biggest reason to defy the hierarchical imposition of language,
Speaker 17: because that's not their version of language. The language that's
Speaker 17: being imposed is like the super straight, white old man
Speaker 17: version of language. So minority groups women, they're going to
Speaker 17: want to eventually talk different than than they do, and
Speaker 17: then they're kind of scrutinized by these other people. Except
Speaker 17: these young people and the marginalized communities are the ones
Speaker 17: that are actually generating the new language. And sometimes that
Speaker 17: leaks into the mainstream, and then it gets adopted, and
Speaker 17: then it gets institutionalized, and then we once again forget
Speaker 17: like that it came from that group. This is a
Speaker 17: time honored process that we see over and over again.
Speaker 4: But yeah, you seem to really have a good graph
Speaker 4: of that.
Speaker 17: I think we have a tendency to call things brain
Speaker 17: rot right, and the idea that words are bad for
Speaker 17: your brain, it's kind of funny. I think brain rod
Speaker 17: is also a meme aesthetic, and to be fair, the
Speaker 17: words that are spreading right now fit into that meme
Speaker 17: aesthetic really well. And the aesthetic is like pointing back
Speaker 17: to the algorithm and how the algorithm is bad for
Speaker 17: our brains. And these words are coming from the algorithm.
Speaker 17: Riskyvide ohio do bai, chocolate, labubu macha. You know, all
Speaker 17: of those are memes brought to us by the algorithm.
Speaker 17: And the words are funny because they're like algorithmic words.
Speaker 17: But I don't think the words themselves are bad. But
Speaker 17: you know, we do have this tendency to call language bad,
Speaker 17: and we've been doing it time and time again. And
Speaker 17: you go back to the nineteen hundreds and there are
Speaker 17: articles about people like being upset at words that we
Speaker 17: now find normal.
Speaker 2: Right right, I wonder too, like if it's kind of
Speaker 2: you know, we we sort of speak the same way,
Speaker 2: especially as kids, because you're referencing something in pop culture
Speaker 2: or like sort of in group as like young people,
Speaker 2: this is like.
Speaker 4: A shared experience or value.
Speaker 2: And I wonder too, because, like I was trying to think, like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck was I saying? That would have even
Speaker 2: been perceived as brain rot quote unquote, like because again
Speaker 2: this is all generationally cyclical, where the like they go.
Speaker 4: What are the kids talking about these days?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I wonder too, because like in the
Speaker 2: eighties and nineties, there was really a very limited amount
Speaker 2: of content movies, TV that sort of a lot of
Speaker 2: people were experiencing at the same time. But with the
Speaker 2: Internet it becomes so much more specific that suddenly like
Speaker 2: everyone knows Ace Ventura or everyone knows the budwe or frogs.
Speaker 4: So being like.
Speaker 1: Or saying like still do that to this day, yeah, same.
Speaker 2: Or alrighty, then is again the same way we were
Speaker 2: just saying some dumb shit because it's from this thing
Speaker 2: you like, not because you're like that's the way I talk.
Speaker 2: You're like, we're saying the thing from the thing we
Speaker 2: like that Now because there's so many different like sort
Speaker 2: of inputs for like what that what can affect someone's
Speaker 2: language or the kind of content that they have an
Speaker 2: affinity for, that's that Now it's like people are like, well,
Speaker 2: I don't know fucking skimmity of toilet, So what the
Speaker 2: fuck is skimmity toilet?
Speaker 15: You?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 17: Literally, I think you is a really a good point
Speaker 17: about like media and the role that media plays and
Speaker 17: our adoption of slang, and it's always been based on
Speaker 17: what we're consuming. So when hip hop in the nineties
Speaker 17: was influencing language, people would say things like fo shizzle
Speaker 17: and then to when you know movies were influencing culture people,
Speaker 17: it's you know, was up you know the millennials lange
Speaker 17: that doesn't really stick around. Some of it does stick around,
Speaker 17: you know, words like cool emerge from minority communities and
Speaker 17: now just like a part of wuage, but vine. I
Speaker 17: think in twenty fourteen people were saying things like bay
Speaker 17: fam on fleek way more. Sometimes those are still around,
Speaker 17: but I think largely they were a fad in the
Speaker 17: general population. And uh, same thing is happening now with TikTok.
Speaker 17: Some of the words are going to stick around.
Speaker 4: Some of them aren't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I also wonder if they're having to like if
Speaker 1: we're seeing this moment of exploding you know, slang that
Speaker 1: is like kind of extra inscrutable because everybody, like the
Speaker 1: as Miles as you were talking about, like what were
Speaker 1: the words that we said to like define ourselves away
Speaker 1: from like previous generations. It was a lot of like swearing, right,
Speaker 1: like yeah, you know just this day, yeah, terrible, terrible, No.
Speaker 1: But now the fucking president like swears and like the
Speaker 1: vice pread you know, they're constantly swearing. So like I
Speaker 1: feel like you need new tools that aren't just the
Speaker 1: standard old tools of like saying bad words, but like
Speaker 1: you have to like create your own sort of aggressive
Speaker 1: words that like won't be used by the president, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Yeah, I wonder if that that
Speaker 1: is pushing the young people to like have to get
Speaker 1: extra creative and like create new ways of speaking because
Speaker 1: literally everybody.
Speaker 4: Says everything's on the table.
Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're kind of right that like absurdism
Speaker 17: is the only option here, and the importance of identity
Speaker 17: formation because young people are always trying to build a
Speaker 17: shared identity for themselves that's different from the identity of adults,
Speaker 17: because they're trying to figure out who they are in
Speaker 17: the world.
Speaker 4: That's normal.
Speaker 17: That's why young people are always the ones that are
Speaker 17: coming up with slang, whereas old people have a crystallized
Speaker 17: idea of who they are and what language is. But
Speaker 17: in a world where I think things are overly structured,
Speaker 17: like through algorithms which force feed us like the content
Speaker 17: that makes them money, and through like I think society
Speaker 17: is structuring things a lot more. But at the same time,
Speaker 17: we have this uncertainty about what's going on, and then
Speaker 17: we turn to absurdism in the same way. I think
Speaker 17: you're right to point out da daism in like the
Speaker 17: nineteen tens. I think that's a really good analogy. There
Speaker 17: was a kind of that period of uncertainty going on
Speaker 17: as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is something from your search history that's revealing
Speaker 1: about who you are?
Speaker 4: I just so this is always kind of a mirror
Speaker 4: that you hold up to yourself when you do this segment.
Speaker 4: But the last thing I had searched was are there
Speaker 4: any laws about headlights? Reddit? So I just simply don't
Speaker 4: know if there's any laws about how bright headlights are
Speaker 4: allowed to be, is anyone allowed to do anything? Some
Speaker 4: of them are so upsettingly bright. And I was just
Speaker 4: in North Carolina, which is what made me search this,
Speaker 4: because all the headlights there are at all the truck
Speaker 4: it's all trucks there, and it seems like people lift
Speaker 4: their truck to what I like to call toddler blind
Speaker 4: spot inches high, and so every single truck is like
Speaker 4: they're like, I just see my truck. It's just high
Speaker 4: enough to where I could clip the top of a
Speaker 4: skull if it was learning to walk.
Speaker 7: Predator.
Speaker 4: Yeah, dodge ram is actually the two verbs kids need
Speaker 4: around and so I'm like, I'm in a regular human
Speaker 4: rental car being followed by a truck and I cannot
Speaker 4: see and I can't and so I didn't search it
Speaker 4: while driving, but I do think it's it's actually illegal
Speaker 4: there to not be on your phone. Water are we
Speaker 4: are there any laws for headlights? And did you find out?
Speaker 1: Like? Are there? Because I really had the thought just
Speaker 1: search this, started searching it clipped A toddler had to
Speaker 1: stop and pretend throw my phone out the window so
Speaker 1: that nobody toddler.
Speaker 4: Sounds like those parents exploiting their.
Speaker 1: Kids a toddler.
Speaker 14: I thought that the rule about tail lights was you
Speaker 14: aren't allowed to have them or not have them if
Speaker 14: you're black, Like I thought that.
Speaker 1: Was the thing, right, that's right tail lights.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, well that part of the internet's banned in
Speaker 4: North Carolina. The answers to that, you're actually not allowed
Speaker 4: to access black part of the internet, the part that
Speaker 4: could help a minority.
Speaker 1: It's like square in China.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. It was no definitive answer
Speaker 4: and honestly hard to read because I was in a
Speaker 4: hotel and yet again, headlights outside were so bright.
Speaker 1: I can't deal with it, And what are we doing
Speaker 1: National Lampoon's Christmas vacation.
Speaker 7: When you first started this, I was like, oh god,
Speaker 7: we are old.
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, oh, what's the oldest I've ever felt?
Speaker 14: Yeah, but it makes sense. I get really upset when
Speaker 14: restaurants are too dim.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 14: I'm like, these fucking guys. They think that we can't
Speaker 14: read the menu in here.
Speaker 4: Oh I just ate at a restaurant down street from me.
Speaker 4: I say, just it was it was a long time ago,
Speaker 4: a month ago, but the guy pulled it. It was
Speaker 4: so dim. The guy pulled his phone out to read
Speaker 4: the menu and then just never turned the flashlight off
Speaker 4: the rest of his time in the restaurant.
Speaker 7: He was trying to help the rest of the restaurant.
Speaker 4: It was like he had a little disco ball on
Speaker 4: his table at any given moment that might blind you
Speaker 4: or might help you.
Speaker 1: Oh, you had dinner with my father. That's it's been nice,
Speaker 1: I said.
Speaker 4: But I have no idea about headlights. I still don't
Speaker 4: know the answer.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Can we leave that up to the States?
Speaker 1: I wish we wouldn't, because I feel like something bad
Speaker 1: is going to happen. I know.
Speaker 4: I don't like telling people. I'm either pro light or
Speaker 4: pro choice, But.
Speaker 14: Yeah, headlights are gonna only can only be dimmed by
Speaker 14: the corpse of a child.
Speaker 4: You know, you could put a windshield wiper on there
Speaker 4: to get thin hair off of it after you run
Speaker 4: a kid over it. Big wheel out of a truck.
Speaker 7: I forgot how dark. I forgot how dark your company is?
Speaker 1: Like why I forgot?
Speaker 4: Every time I see one of these trucks, I'm like,
Speaker 4: they're going to run over the kid from the Incredibles
Speaker 4: that was in his driveway. That's what this looks like
Speaker 4: to me.
Speaker 14: I just realized, I know why there aren't like creepy
Speaker 14: kids on bikes anymore, and they all are like throwbacks
Speaker 14: to the eighties.
Speaker 7: They've all been wiped out.
Speaker 4: So why it takes so long for them to make
Speaker 4: a new season a stranger thing? They let the kids
Speaker 4: grow out of the blind spot, I know that.
Speaker 1: Like people always talk about how yeah, but if it's
Speaker 1: like super bright, it's kind of like this arms race
Speaker 1: that's happening with the size of cars, and this is
Speaker 1: like also a part of that where like the size
Speaker 1: of cars, the people inside the car are safer, is
Speaker 1: everyone outside the car that's like less safe because.
Speaker 4: Once again we're talking about and square. They were very
Speaker 4: safe in the tank. Inside the tank, yeah, but historically
Speaker 4: out of it. I was always worried about the people
Speaker 4: inside the tank when I saw that bit, but apparently
Speaker 4: they were fine. It was that guy holding his groceries
Speaker 4: that but yeah, and then like super bright lights, it's like, well,
Speaker 4: nobody's gonna run into you, and it's like, well they
Speaker 4: can't see, so they might run into other things. And
Speaker 4: it's like not you though, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: Like it just has this like weird prisoner's dilemma, like
Speaker 4: zero something that's happening.
Speaker 7: It's a trolley problem where you invented the track, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, talk problem, except they're like, is there a way
Speaker 4: I can run over some them, back up, change direction
Speaker 4: than run over the one guy? All so I could
Speaker 4: try and save a little bit on taxes in my mind, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, trying to research this, like headlights are too bright,
Speaker 1: but US experts say they're not bright enough on Reddit
Speaker 1: the first one, brightness isn't the issue. I'm like, all right,
Speaker 1: well I've checked out. It's it's actually the direction that
Speaker 1: you and my brain shuts down, like I can't I
Speaker 1: don't want to hear that I was not.
Speaker 4: And I just got a little, great, little more angry
Speaker 4: about the Internet.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's right, my underrated uh Mad's Michelson's desire to
Speaker 1: be like held down slash tied up just any any So,
Speaker 1: as you I've talked about before, my uh probably my
Speaker 1: favorite thing I wrote back in the Cracked days was
Speaker 1: this article about actors who kind of like to do
Speaker 1: the same thing in every movie. Tom Cruise likes to run,
Speaker 1: Brad Pitt likes to eat, John Cusack likes to get
Speaker 1: stuck in the rain, and the the ultimate. Tom Hanks
Speaker 1: love to pee and he loves in a movie. And
Speaker 1: I'm just obsessed with the idea of like how that happened.
Speaker 1: I'm just obsessed with the idea of watching people pee.
Speaker 1: And the Internet's amazing because you can find so many
Speaker 1: videos of it, just like how that happens? Is it
Speaker 1: a note from the actor? But anyways, somebody on Twitter
Speaker 1: who goes by v i z l a g F
Speaker 1: on Twitter posted a super cut of Mad's Michelson like
Speaker 1: being tied up or tied down, or like held down
Speaker 1: or tying somebody else down, And it's just there's a
Speaker 1: lot to go off of.
Speaker 3: It's why does he have a boner in all.
Speaker 1: These shots too? So the projects are polar The Starvation
Speaker 1: Hannibal Bitch Better Have My Money music video he's in
Speaker 1: there being tied up exit Casino Royale, Unit one valhallarizing
Speaker 1: Doctor Strange, and then something called The Call, which is
Speaker 1: a furniture ad in which he gets So it's interesting
Speaker 1: that these are like, there are some weird projects on there. Like,
Speaker 1: on the one hand, you could be like, man, they're
Speaker 1: really scraping to find examples of this. On the other
Speaker 1: you can read it as like he will take a
Speaker 1: job that doesn't make any sense for him, like a
Speaker 1: Rihanna video or a furniture ad if they're just like yeah,
Speaker 1: but we'll hold your arms down in like kind of
Speaker 1: a sexual context.
Speaker 2: His agent's like, Mad's, I got this news script for you.
Speaker 2: He's like, you you already know what I'm going to ask.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm gonna ask? Why are you even
Speaker 1: why are we even talking about it right now? But
Speaker 1: Mad's this could be just say it. What am I
Speaker 1: going to ask?
Speaker 4: Are fine?
Speaker 1: Is it bondage? Is it hold me down? Is it bondage? Okay?
Speaker 1: Then yes, But they don't make sense.
Speaker 2: The work too.
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is more this one feels
Speaker 1: more in line with like Tom Hanks, because like the
Speaker 1: Brad pitt One, the John Cusack, it's just like Tom
Speaker 1: Cruise are like this is the thing I look cool
Speaker 1: doing Tom Hanks and like this one, I can't imagine
Speaker 1: they think it looks cool. It feels like it's coming
Speaker 1: from in like a deep like psycho sexual urge that
Speaker 1: they is.
Speaker 2: Probably why Tom Hanks isn't canceled is because he's found
Speaker 2: a way to route any kind of weird sexual desire
Speaker 2: into like somewhat a creative Outlet's like, look, as long
Speaker 2: as I'm pissing in a film, like.
Speaker 1: I can keep my shit together. Watch it. All those
Speaker 1: people I walk around this country, I make eye contact
Speaker 1: with people and I know and that's where my comments
Speaker 1: comes from. They've watched me piss, Like, yeah.
Speaker 4: There it is.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, we literally finish each other sandwhich is
Speaker 2: did you see that clip of Ben Stiller talking because
Speaker 2: it had been like twenty something years since that MTV
Speaker 2: Movie Awards where he was protecting Yeah, yeah, yeah, and
Speaker 2: he was like reminiscing about it, and he was like,
Speaker 2: I thought i'd be nervous. He's like, but the second
Speaker 2: I started doing it like he was, he was just
Speaker 2: all in and he's like and that made it so
Speaker 2: much easier. I thought, I don't know what the fuck
Speaker 2: is how he was going to react, and he's like,
Speaker 2: he started laughing. Then I started He's like that scene
Speaker 2: where they just kind of start laughing, like and they
Speaker 2: made on each other. He just said that just started
Speaker 2: with him laughing and then Tom Cruise reacting and him
Speaker 2: just kind of they just kept reacting to each other.
Speaker 2: Beautiful moment for all my old ass chooge listeners out
Speaker 2: there who remember that storied MTV Movie Awards when we
Speaker 2: used to watch them live.
Speaker 1: The premise was that Ben Stiller is his body double,
Speaker 1: right Yeah, But then like he's like and we're exact,
Speaker 1: We're basically the same person, and it's clear that he
Speaker 1: has this like obsessive relationship with him and it's like
Speaker 1: trying to make things happen quite working both five seven too.
Speaker 1: So there you go. What is something you think is underrated?
Speaker 14: Okay, this is something that when I used to live
Speaker 14: in the Bay and I had rich ass friends who
Speaker 14: were and they shout up to the friends.
Speaker 7: To me anymore.
Speaker 1: They would soon start making phone calls again once they
Speaker 1: get the metaglasses. Yeah, point to their temple and.
Speaker 4: They call CVS, CBS.
Speaker 14: Your extra care savings. They like would outsource like all
Speaker 14: of their chores. And I'm like, I feel like chores
Speaker 14: are underrated, like cleaning, like get it, like laundry dishes, cleaning,
Speaker 14: like you don't want to be overwhelmed by it. But
Speaker 14: if you haven't like changed your child's diaper ever, then
Speaker 14: like I feel like you're not living in the same
Speaker 14: plane of existence as me.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: You don't change?
Speaker 2: Yeah, daddy Daddy Bear doesn't get his pause dirty with don.
Speaker 4: Do.
Speaker 14: I don't know what your audience is, but the bears
Speaker 14: are tuning in, okay, very excited.
Speaker 4: That is so funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean like when whenever I hear people like
Speaker 2: earnestly be like, oh I don't change diapers, I'm like,
Speaker 2: you're a fuck.
Speaker 7: Up person, kind of Like we talked about this with
Speaker 7: like JD.
Speaker 14: Vance, right, didn't we didn't He have something about like
Speaker 14: not interacting with his kid in like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I forget if it's one of the many famous
Speaker 2: Vance quotes where he's like I think he's like he's
Speaker 2: like my wife like likes to like coddle them.
Speaker 4: I just kind of yell at him, and you're like.
Speaker 1: Oh, the mama dada bear. You know, I am a
Speaker 1: me into them and don't really look at them. I
Speaker 1: don't want to deal with that ship. And then my
Speaker 1: wife cleans up my like.
Speaker 7: I learned it from Succession. That's how I learned. That's
Speaker 7: the parenting book I read.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like that's a show man, that's a show.
Speaker 2: It's a it's a it's a parenting tone.
Speaker 1: Actually yeah, yeah, And just generally, I do think boredom downtime,
Speaker 1: Like I listen to podcasts a lot for a fucking
Speaker 1: living sometimes and but just like carving out time to
Speaker 1: do boring tasks like clean up without anything, without like
Speaker 1: anything going on, you know, just like.
Speaker 7: The mind mindfulness as as true as a chore wheel.
Speaker 4: What's your favorite shore? What's your favorite chore?
Speaker 14: I really like doing laundry, Like I like I like
Speaker 14: the like the folding and putting a way of laundry
Speaker 14: because it feels like a fresh start.
Speaker 7: I also get to look at things that I have
Speaker 7: and be grateful for.
Speaker 1: Them, and like you know what I mean.
Speaker 14: I'm like, oh, like this is a cute Yeah, and
Speaker 14: I also like don't like I don't like things too much.
Speaker 14: We have to wash my hands a lot because my
Speaker 14: hands get like dry really quickly, so like dishes. I
Speaker 14: don't like or like like cleaning the toilet and like
Speaker 14: washing my hands, you know, like I just don't like.
Speaker 2: Weird, like washing your hands after using the toilet.
Speaker 7: Listen.
Speaker 14: I think that you don't need to use shampoo and
Speaker 14: you don't need to wash your hands.
Speaker 7: Okay, you you odorant can be made out of bark.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, when the Democrats take over, you'd be a
Speaker 2: great pick for Secretary of Defense.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
Speaker 4: Yeah, excuse me.
Speaker 1: Germ theory his hands after he pooped because it like
Speaker 1: made him stronger somehow. I was just reading back to.
Speaker 2: Like the next a signal chat with ship hands. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's like, hey, get my cell phone, man, bring my
Speaker 2: phone over here. You're like.
Speaker 4: There's He's like, how come the charging ports all clogged
Speaker 4: up with stuff?
Speaker 2: He's like, I don't know. That's why I got the
Speaker 2: magnetic charger because that hole is all.
Speaker 1: Like crust, you know.
Speaker 2: The I was reading a thing that like it was
Speaker 2: a poll of parents talking about allowances and like how
Speaker 2: kids like like the financial awareness of children and of
Speaker 2: like these two thousand parents that they had pulled, they
Speaker 2: were saying, they're like average allowance is around one hundred
Speaker 2: and twenty bucks a month.
Speaker 1: And I was like, damn inflation.
Speaker 4: I'm like, how come wages actually haven't gone up in.
Speaker 1: With allowances?
Speaker 4: Really everything's gone up five bucks a week And if I.
Speaker 14: Was lucky, we didn't because my parents were like, this
Speaker 14: is your home. But also like they didn't ask us
Speaker 14: to do too many things like they did obviously like
Speaker 14: the majority of stuff, but they'd ask us to help
Speaker 14: like a little bit here and there. They wanted us
Speaker 14: to be kids basically yeah and and so. But they
Speaker 14: were also like, we're not going to pay.
Speaker 7: You like you live here.
Speaker 4: It was yeah, like I was.
Speaker 2: The thing was like they would pay me to pick
Speaker 2: up dog poop and like they had like a per
Speaker 2: bag thing. I was breaking down pieces of ship and
Speaker 2: bagging it up individually.
Speaker 7: My allowance poop trap house like just cutting but.
Speaker 2: Naked butt naked bagging it up. The balloon meant something totally.
Speaker 4: Different for you.
Speaker 1: Trying to put poop into a balloon.
Speaker 4: It's fun.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't easy.
Speaker 4: You just need a thing that opens it up. I
Speaker 4: do it all the time.
Speaker 7: You do it now to your wife.
Speaker 1: You get you get a PVC.
Speaker 4: Pipe thing that's big enough. Just wrap the end of
Speaker 4: it right there. Then perfect funnel.
Speaker 14: You're gonna get accused of fraud and your parents going
Speaker 14: to require back pay on this.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, already they required, They've already demanded it, and
Speaker 2: I have to.
Speaker 1: Paul of what's something you think is overrated?
Speaker 14: Okay, this is something I'm starting to recently. I think
Speaker 14: I've done it throughout different points in my life. I
Speaker 14: think like shopping online, shopping at stores overrated. Shop at
Speaker 14: your friend who hoards stuff's place because they have a wonderful, unique.
Speaker 7: Selection of items.
Speaker 14: Curated goods, Yeah, curated goods that they find value in
Speaker 14: maybe you will too. And then also I feel like
Speaker 14: they're more likely to relinquish it to someone that they
Speaker 14: know and love, so you're helping them.
Speaker 7: And it's free. It's like the Facebook marketplace of like,
Speaker 7: you know issues, It's something.
Speaker 2: Right, it feels like it works perfectly, like psychologically with
Speaker 2: the mentality of a hoarder who's like I have to
Speaker 2: keep that because I never know when someone might need
Speaker 2: it or I might and you, as a third party
Speaker 2: come in and go.
Speaker 4: Hey, you know I could get a lot of use
Speaker 4: out of that. Please take it, please?
Speaker 15: Yes?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because the growing away, I feel like is
Speaker 1: the thing, right, Yeah, they want to Yeah.
Speaker 7: It's like extreme sustainability.
Speaker 4: So what happened? So what did you get in your
Speaker 4: latest hoarder shopping?
Speaker 7: They got a really cool jean jacket Okay new, okay.
Speaker 4: New with tags WTS no tags.
Speaker 7: But it was new, it was like never used.
Speaker 14: And then I got like, I'm getting like a comforter
Speaker 14: because I like don't have a comforter.
Speaker 4: I don't want to like get great ship. I thought
Speaker 4: you're gonna be like an old Game Day program from now.
Speaker 7: You have hoarders do have nice ship.
Speaker 14: Sometimes you know, like it's it's you gotta you gotta
Speaker 14: be friends with the most people they are like, I
Speaker 14: want to be friends with with a.
Speaker 1: Guy with a boat.
Speaker 7: Fuck that. Yeah, I don't want a boat that's full
Speaker 7: of shit.
Speaker 2: You want to be friends with someone who has three
Speaker 2: thousand unopened coke cans from the nineteen nineties.
Speaker 14: Yeah, if I need a wire, I can just go,
Speaker 14: I don't need to. What is the radio shack is
Speaker 14: on a business type?
Speaker 7: Yeah, any any sort of wire I call my friends.
Speaker 1: Sounds more organized than the hoarders that I'm familiar with.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you need to you need to have like it's
Speaker 7: a very specific sounds like.
Speaker 1: You cultivate, relate, you hord relationships with hoarders.
Speaker 7: I don't know what you're talking about. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 7: I feel like that ultimate really minimalizing.
Speaker 13: I take them down, vampire, Yeah, take them down by
Speaker 13: hoarding them yourself.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 14: People, you know, they are all these like hoarder reality shows.
Speaker 14: I'm doing the I'm doing the hard work away from camera, okay.
Speaker 1: After the production team leaves pulls up.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm the person.
Speaker 14: I'm like the boom mic operator and I'm like, hey,
Speaker 14: if you don't want to, you.
Speaker 4: Need just while you're operating boom, You're like, hey you
Speaker 4: need that.
Speaker 2: What's that thing over there?
Speaker 1: Hey that therapist is actually really fucked up. Come talk
Speaker 1: to me after this because.
Speaker 7: And you're like, you're actually just hoarding other people.
Speaker 2: You are, You're outsourcing your place to be a secondary
Speaker 2: unit for revers.
Speaker 1: Just a wall of old newspapers.
Speaker 4: Stacked up precariously, I might need to read.
Speaker 1: I have a good friend who's in the process of
Speaker 1: moving and he's like a reverse hoarder where he's now
Speaker 1: I'm having to be like, don't throw that out.
Speaker 7: Okay, I was going to say, like minimalism.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's thrown away like a work of art from
Speaker 1: his grandfather who's like a famous artist.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 7: Is he mentally okay though? Because worries I'm actually I
Speaker 7: was like.
Speaker 1: That's this is good. You you'll want this. He's like, well,
Speaker 1: I I haven't used it in like a couple in the.
Speaker 2: Kay smacks of somebody who has a lot of resources.
Speaker 1: Exactly what it's going to say.
Speaker 2: Oh really yeah, oh no, that's really bad because like
Speaker 2: the people I know who are like that are truly
Speaker 2: everything so disposable whatever we want, that's what.
Speaker 1: And like this is a sentimental value.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so crazy. No, I would check on him.
Speaker 1: He believes in not sing Lebowski. Yeah, does he have
Speaker 1: any nice stuff?
Speaker 4: Because yeah, roll by some grandfather art. Hey, what's up
Speaker 4: with their shoes?
Speaker 6: What size you my man?
Speaker 4: I'm a twelve you I'll take a wait, I'm wearing these.
Speaker 4: You don't need them?
Speaker 7: What's that it's sentimental. I don't have any sentiments.
Speaker 1: Give it to me, weird pot.
Speaker 2: I'm dumping all this dust out of this pot.
Speaker 1: What is this that was my grand phone?
Speaker 4: Whatever?
Speaker 1: What is something from your search history that's revealing about
Speaker 1: who you are?
Speaker 6: Something that I can say that just guess my mom
Speaker 6: listens to. This is my my last google. I was
Speaker 6: searching Minnesota spiders, all right. We were talking about this
Speaker 6: before the show a little bit. I actually have been
Speaker 6: googling spiders because there's a fat spider in my yard.
Speaker 6: That is if you know when a bug is too
Speaker 6: so big that you're like, I think, if I kill you,
Speaker 6: I go to jail. Is that it's that level of spider.
Speaker 1: It's really I take like several blows, like a yeah.
Speaker 6: It's not a it's not a it's not a fly
Speaker 6: swatter situation. We're squaring up. We're bad.
Speaker 18: I need gloves, I need a pan, a can of paint,
Speaker 18: yeah yeah, and like a torch. But so this this
Speaker 18: I my My My position is outdoor spiders are fine.
Speaker 18: They're they're not bothering me whatever. I need to cut
Speaker 18: my law.
Speaker 6: My lot is looking terrible right now because I am
Speaker 6: that the spider is the alpha in my yard right now.
Speaker 6: The spider is the alpha myleer. It's literally one. But
Speaker 6: I'm not kidding. It's probably it's probably like a it's
Speaker 6: bit for me from Minnesota. It's bit right, like if
Speaker 6: I if I kill it, it'll crunch, and I don't
Speaker 6: like that sort of I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I don't want to disturb it. It's like it's kind
Speaker 6: of like a it's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 2: You're concerned, like you're gonna be mowing your lawn and
Speaker 2: then you're gonna lawnmower the funk out of it or something,
Speaker 2: or you just don't want it, or it's gonna descend
Speaker 2: on you as your mom.
Speaker 6: It's going to touch me. Yeah, I don't want to ye. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I don't let it burn. I don't care. But like
Speaker 6: it's it's just big enough that I feel like it
Speaker 6: might have a margin of intelligence and I would have
Speaker 6: to push more through it if I'm going to cut
Speaker 6: my grass. So I've been thinking about, like should I
Speaker 6: leave it? It's deadly if that's a stupid question in Minnesota,
Speaker 6: but whatever, So I spiders and I was just trying
Speaker 6: to see what kind of spider does. I still haven't
Speaker 6: quite figured out.
Speaker 2: When you said you googled Minnesota spi I thought I
Speaker 2: was hoping it was like a minor league hockey team.
Speaker 2: That does sound good, the Minnesota Spiders, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, because I know University of Richmond. They're Spiders.
Speaker 2: I always like, whenever I see that jery that basketball
Speaker 2: Jersey'm like, that's the sickest jersey.
Speaker 4: It really fucking spiders on it. Yeah, this is with
Speaker 4: the Spider as a mascot, which is really odd to me.
Speaker 6: Yeah, people people choose demon over spider. That's how much
Speaker 6: they don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is wild anything but a spider, huh huh.
Speaker 1: Like multiple colors of demon. There's like blue demon, red devil,
Speaker 1: like yeah, and then double the worst article clothing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of colors. What do we go with? Yeah, yeah, no.
Speaker 6: One's done the roaches yet or anything that's that's that's
Speaker 6: the bottom twos. But probably intimidating, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: They're like alphas. Yeah, they're bullying you out of your
Speaker 1: own yard.
Speaker 6: Imagine imagine losing to the Spiders and then they just
Speaker 6: like lay eggs in your girl after.
Speaker 4: The game or something like that. You know, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: They're like and thousands of them.
Speaker 6: Probably you're a father. Now I'm not going to be
Speaker 6: here to take care of it.
Speaker 4: You've got three thousand.
Speaker 1: I think that's pregnanti Uh. Yeah, I've got I've got
Speaker 1: a spider in my front yard that has been it's
Speaker 1: just like found the best spot. So it's like always
Speaker 1: outside the same window. Yeah. It's built an elaborate web
Speaker 1: that like comes down sometimes and then we'll just be
Speaker 1: back the next day. Is just out here building and
Speaker 1: then feasting. It is getting like noticeably bigger as it was,
Speaker 1: like is killing it. It had a great September. I now,
Speaker 1: do you guys have this?
Speaker 6: You're in La right, Yeah?
Speaker 9: Do you have those?
Speaker 6: We don't have them here yet, but they they're on
Speaker 6: the East coast and I'm waiting for this when this happens.
Speaker 6: Do you have those like quote unquote flying spiders like
Speaker 6: they float on their webs and then they're huge and
Speaker 6: they just like rain down.
Speaker 2: From the sky and just lad No, but I've seen
Speaker 2: videos of those. Get ready Yeah, yeah, I'm My spider
Speaker 2: car was really good. So I'm like I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: bring it, man, I fuck with you.
Speaker 6: People are worried about AI. They should be worried about.
Speaker 1: Raining spiders raining from the sky. One of my favorite
Speaker 1: like piece of information I learned and the past couple
Speaker 1: of years was that like the sky, like you look
Speaker 1: up at the sky and it appears to be blue
Speaker 1: or gray or whatever, but like it's actually full of bugs.
Speaker 1: Like the bugs are just like flying, not just like
Speaker 1: flying bugs, but like bugs that bugs that don't fly
Speaker 1: just like catch a ride on the wind all the time.
Speaker 1: And like there, if you just like cut a square
Speaker 1: chunk like of the sky above you, there would just
Speaker 1: be like tens of thousands of bugs just like floating
Speaker 1: around up there. The bugs, Yeah, they just like decide
Speaker 1: they don't want to be where they are, and they
Speaker 1: just like lift up their arms and get taken away
Speaker 1: on that gust of wind. It's fucking sick.
Speaker 4: That's freedom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 6: They're actively trying to their own lives and then they
Speaker 6: just have the best ride of their life.
Speaker 1: I'm good, now, that's right. I'd like to do that.
Speaker 1: They're like hands up, and you put your hands up
Speaker 1: and then just get somewhere else, Batman, get dark knighted.
Speaker 12: Out of there.
Speaker 5: Oh right, and that is it for this special Indigenous
Speaker 5: People's Day edition of OOPS all Overrated, Underrated, and we
Speaker 5: will be back tomorrow with a whole last episode of
Speaker 5: the show.
Speaker 1: Bye.
Speaker 14: The Daily Zeite Guys is executive produced by Katherine Law,
Speaker 14: co produced by Bee Wayne.
Speaker 1: Co produced by Victor Wright
Speaker 5: Co written by j M mcnapp, and edited and engineered
Speaker 5: by Brian Jefferies.