1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Best of the Odd Couple podcasts. 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday from seven 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: pm to ten pm Eastern four to seventh Pacific on 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for the Odd 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: Couple at Foxsports Radio dot com, or stream us live 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: You're listening to the Best of the Odd Couple. 8 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 3: Nobody seems to be a fan of the former number one. 9 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 3: What would you call him? The generational prospect that is 10 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 3: Caleb Williams. First, we had the athletic tier come out 11 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 3: yesterday and he was ranked at the Tier three quarterback. 12 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 3: Something met him in the Tier four quarterback, which says 13 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 3: a lot, But all of the criticism basically said some 14 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 3: variation of the same thing. You had an anonymous defensive 15 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 3: coordinator says quote. In terms of processing ability and getting 16 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 3: the ball at his hands, it was the worst we 17 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 3: played against. 18 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 4: Anonymous head coach says quote. 19 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 3: His process, I seek to me was alarming watching the 20 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 3: tape and in fact, if you don't believe these anonymous 21 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:09,199 Speaker 3: gms and coaches, former All Pro left tackle to Ron 22 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 3: Armstead was at the joint practice between the Dolphins and 23 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 3: the Bears last week said yes because he retired and 24 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 3: he put his name on it. 25 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 4: Take a listener. 26 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 5: Caleb's process playing that quarterback position has to improve fast, 27 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 5: and pretty fast. In my opinion, on a consistent basis, 28 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 5: Caleb was not able to recognize where he was in danger. 29 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 5: He wasn't feeling pressure, he wasn't feeling blitzes. He wasn't 30 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 5: seeing blitzes and threats. 31 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 6: Pre singaput. 32 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 5: Anthony Weaver, the Dolphins defensive coordinator, was able to send 33 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 5: guys from all different spots on the field and man, 34 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 5: a lot of those got home. A lot of those 35 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 5: would have been sacks. 36 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: All right, I'm just gonna say it. I'm gonna say 37 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: I'll say the quiet part out loud. This is just 38 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: an anti Caleb Williams. They've never really liked Caleb Williams 39 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: from this standpoint of he paints his nails. 40 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 4: I don't know. 41 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: He cried towards mom in the stands. He's a different 42 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 1: kind of guy. Wanted a piece of the Bears. He 43 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: didn't want to go to all the other stuff that 44 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: came out, And there are a lot of people who 45 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: just don't like the guy. Last year he had a 46 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: fine rookie season, and it's funny other people get a 47 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: chance to develop and get better. Peyton Manning threw thirty 48 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: interceptions his first year. Nobody threw the toweling on him. 49 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: Nobody said he holds the ball too long, or he 50 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: doesn't know what he's doing with it, or he can't 51 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: weed defenses. They allowed him to progress. And last year, Kelvin, 52 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: they were at least three games where he marched his 53 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: team down, gave them the go ahead touchdown, and then 54 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: the defense gave it back up. 55 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 4: You remember, including that hail Mary to Washington. 56 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: You remember that game he had actually taken his team 57 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: down and they scored a touchdown to go up in front, 58 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: and he had one of his dbs or safeties who 59 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: was flexing to the crowd when the hail Mary came in. 60 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 4: And I'm not saying. 61 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: He's a finished product or he's gonna be the best 62 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: quarterback in the league or whatever. 63 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 4: I just the noise to me. 64 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 1: With a new coach and a new coordinator, and people 65 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: gonna give Justin Fields eight chances, right, three teams and 66 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: three Oh yeah, look at Justin Fields, and here he is. 67 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: He had twenty touchdowns, six picks and too many sacks, 68 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: and they need to protect him better. He needs to 69 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: be more aware. I'm not saying that he doesn't need 70 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: to make some changes, but this fire Alarmer on Caleb 71 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: william I think is just. I think it's personal, to 72 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: be honest. 73 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 6: I'm addressed that personal a minute. 74 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 7: And Rob G you're saying they're not a fan of him. 75 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 6: I think the term is concerned. 76 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 7: So, Rob, this is gonna happen when you're the top 77 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 7: prospect since Andrew Luck. You're the suing, you're the one 78 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 7: everybody says that's the guy that can miss. You're the 79 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 7: number one pick, you're a Heisman Trophy winner, and these things, 80 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 7: these conversations are gonna happen. 81 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 6: And I think he's getting some of that. 82 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 7: He's getting some smoke or some added extra sauce that 83 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 7: people felt they should have been given to Trevor Lawrence. 84 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 7: So I think he's getting some. Well, I should have 85 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 7: been on Trevor Lawrence a little harder. Let me make 86 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 7: sure I'm on Kayleb Williams a little hard. But all 87 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 7: of this comes with when you're the number one pick, 88 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 7: the Heisman Trophy winner, and now let's add to it, 89 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 7: you do have to add context if the same thing 90 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 7: that has been a concern for him coming out of 91 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 7: college into his rookie campaign, into his training camp this year. 92 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 7: Mind you, he's got Ben Johnson, the offensive guru. This 93 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 7: is why people are ringing the alarm and they're saying, hey, hey, 94 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 7: something they looking right. When you have to have your 95 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 7: first teamers pulled off the field early, just something we 96 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 7: hardly ever hear happens because he wasn't getting them out 97 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 7: of huddle. He's been We've been hearing more and more 98 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 7: of reports about he can't break the huddle, fast en up, 99 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 7: they got a burn timeouts, they're getting fl flags from 100 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 7: a delay of games. These are concerns now we heard 101 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 7: about him. But because he was Superman of the worldly, 102 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 7: he was able to escape these things. He was able 103 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 7: to make plays happen. You look at the interceptions, they're low. Yeah, 104 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 7: because he ate a bunch of sacks. That's why you. 105 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 4: Don't want to go to the ball up for grabs. 106 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 7: What do you just but he has he has a 107 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 7: little Andrew Rodgers itis and that he doesn't want to 108 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 7: turn it over. He's trying to make too many plays. 109 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 7: Aaron Rodgers was able to do that to the tune 110 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 7: of success. That's why he's going to be a first 111 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 7: ballot Hall of Famer. 112 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 6: Caleb. 113 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 7: The jury is still out, so Caleb Williams has to 114 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 7: process faster. We're hearing it from too many sources, from 115 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 7: his own Dagone team, in his own his own coach. 116 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 7: He's got to be better at getting the ball out faster. 117 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 7: He can no longer just rely on his talent that 118 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 7: has gotten him this far. And that is a fair 119 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 7: thing to say of a guy who we expect the 120 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 7: world from. 121 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson. We had these concerns about Lamar Jackson. 122 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 7: Lamar Jackson came right in after a couple of years 123 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 7: his Now you and I talked about this last week 124 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 7: or so. Now he's one of the best passers in 125 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 7: the NBA, gets the ball out, doesn't get sack. 126 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 6: In the NFL. 127 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 7: I'm sorry, it has the most passes down the field 128 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 7: and yards per pass. 129 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 4: Well, but that's because that's the lesson. 130 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: That's the lesson is you can't pass judgment on people 131 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: so quickly. But you give Justin Herbert and he's a 132 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: top five quarterback for whatever reason, it's okay Justin Herbert 133 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: or or who do or Lawrence down in Jacksonville. No 134 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: one's crying, oh my god, he got the big contract. 135 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 6: He's all this. 136 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 4: He got, you know, a contract and all that. 137 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: My point is there is a little extra sauce because 138 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: he's not conventional. 139 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 4: He's not the guy that that maybe people, you. 140 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: Know what I mean, want to rally around because he's 141 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: different a little bit. 142 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 6: And I'm saying. 143 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: That that factors in. That's all I'm saying. He's not 144 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: above criticism. That's not what I'm saying. 145 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 4: I think he gets extra for some other stuff. 146 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 7: I think he gets extra because the same problem has 147 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 7: applied for the same few years, from college to his 148 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 7: first campaign and then this training camp. 149 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 6: You're supposed to be better by now, and I think why. 150 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 7: But you're saying it's personal, And I don't see how 151 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 7: you don't you think it's personal? What should do when 152 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 7: this dude is the number one pick a Heisman winner. 153 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 6: Of course it's gonna be for people. What's the personal? 154 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 7: What I'm saying is, I'm saying it's if it's for Caleb. 155 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 7: To me, it's warranted. He's supposed to be that guy. 156 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 7: This is supposed to be the all world. What a 157 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 7: new coach and a new everything new from last year. 158 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 7: I just yes, because you can't go five for seventeen 159 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 7: with three interceptions and a family fest last week. 160 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 6: You can't do that. It is a layup. This is 161 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 6: just a promo for the fans. 162 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: That's that's nothing that none of these games matter. The 163 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: Lions win four to o and then owen sixteen. 164 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 6: In the season. 165 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 7: Nobody said you can't look horrible. You can't go five 166 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 7: for seventeen three. 167 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: You think people don't have bad you think you think 168 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: great players haven't had bad training camp game, I mean 169 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: preseason games, saying this. 170 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,559 Speaker 6: Wasn't even a game. He didn't even play in the game. 171 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 6: Of course you should, he should. He didn't even play 172 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 6: in the game. 173 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 7: Rob These are shorts and T shirts, and he's out 174 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 7: here looking like me if I went to go be 175 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 7: a quarterback. 176 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 6: That's so. 177 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 4: I just think it's overblown. 178 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 179 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 180 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 181 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 2: listen live. Hi, this is Jay. 182 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 8: I'm the producer of the Paula and Tony Fusco Show. 183 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 8: Usually in these promos. They asked you to listen to 184 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 8: the show. I'm here to ask you please, don't listen 185 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 8: to the show. The hosts are two absolute morons who 186 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 8: have the dumbest takes on sports, imagicable. Don't listen to 187 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 8: the show so it can get camp. 188 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 6: What the hell are you doing our studio get him? 189 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 4: Ignore that fool. 190 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 6: Listen to the Pauline Tony Fusco Show on. 191 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,479 Speaker 8: The iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 192 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 6: He's still moving. 193 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 3: First time, long time. We got Chris in New Jersey 194 00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 3: calling in the crazy on the. 195 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 9: First of all, How in the world I'm not. 196 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 10: The first caller? Easy? 197 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 9: You know why before me? 198 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 6: You know why? 199 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, let me tell you why, because we 200 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: have a warning for you, and we figured that this 201 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: is the reason why here. 202 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 6: It is exactly for one thing. 203 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 10: You forgot to turn down the radio. 204 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 3: There you go, you don't call him radio. 205 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 10: Look, I just had a great deal in New York City. 206 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 10: I get in my car and I hear Rob hating, 207 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 10: oh and chadure Sanders And sure I think Kelvin or 208 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 10: Ron g is going to put him in his place. 209 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 9: And you co signing it. 210 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 6: How are we hating him. 211 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 10: How I had to call it. 212 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, he's a four string quarterback. 213 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,239 Speaker 4: They're not carrying four quarterbacks. 214 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 6: How we hating? 215 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 10: You're right, he is going to make the tea. Here's 216 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 10: the deal. Even though I'm you didn't want him to 217 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 10: get injured, the injury helps him, assuming he can come 218 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 10: back next week, and you know, you'll be fine. He 219 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 10: already put the good taste out there. Like the last 220 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 10: time we saw him, he was very good. And if 221 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 10: Dylan Gabriel goes out there against the Eagles, he gonna 222 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 10: be facing a better team. 223 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: He's going there, and if he plays better than what okay, 224 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: say he plays well against the better team and the. 225 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 10: Eagles, because he's been terrible he was six nineteen. 226 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 6: You know what I'm asking you. 227 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 4: In the game, if he plays well chardor had his. 228 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: One hundred and thirty yards, If he has one hundred 229 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: and forty yards and two touchdowns and no picks, then 230 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: then what's the conversation. 231 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 10: If he plays well, then it will probably keep. I 232 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 10: think they'll cut I think they'll trade Kenny Pickett. I 233 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 10: think they're gonna trade Kenny. 234 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 4: They're not gonna keep two rookie quarterbacks. The backup of God. 235 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 10: Could get hurt if Gabriel plays well, but I doubt 236 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 10: he will against the Eagles. He's been bad, as Robgie said, 237 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 10: he's been bad in the training camp, and he's not 238 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 10: gonna you know, he's gonna be facing game planning, which 239 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 10: they really don't do in the first preseason game, so 240 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 10: he's going in a tougher situation. He's probably gonna look bad, 241 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 10: and that's gonna make that will probably move Shador ahead 242 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 10: of him on the depth chart. So this actually helped 243 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 10: Shadure because he was so good in his only outing. 244 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: Well it's funny because he didn't move up to depth 245 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 1: art after that's so good. 246 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 4: And you just you just need to you just even 247 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 4: said that. 248 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: But you just said it, Chris, that they don't even 249 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 1: plan for the game one. 250 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 4: They're just out there playing. It's like pick up football. 251 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 10: Right, Well, I wouldn't say pick up football. 252 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 6: But you know what I mean. Right, you just said the. 253 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 10: Defenses don't game plan. You know, they progress, you know 254 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 10: this game one, Game two is a little more sophisticated 255 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 10: than three to four. But he had not had a 256 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 10: lot of reps in practice, so and remember he was 257 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 10: at least some of the time against Carolina starters with 258 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 10: the backups from the Browns, and you got him at 259 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 10: those two touchdown paths were pinpoint. 260 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, they were great. 261 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 6: Thing. 262 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 10: He was perfect because he had a few mistakes, but 263 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 10: he looked good. And look, if Gabriel goes out there 264 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 10: and plays well robbed, you're right, then you got a 265 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 10: battle for the backup spot. But I think there's a 266 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 10: better chance he goes out there and struggles, and then 267 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 10: that will probably move to door ahead of it. 268 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 3: Chris, you are entirely too smart to have this kind 269 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 3: of That'd be like if on first things first, because 270 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 3: Danny park is at he went to the show, if 271 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 3: he comes in and does well, they're gonna say he's 272 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 3: done so well, we're gonna replace. 273 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 6: Invested so much, Chris, that is not gonna happen. 274 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 9: And Gabriel, I mean, I've already done my thing, but 275 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 9: come out with it like it's there's not I mean, 276 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 9: Gabriel's a third round pick. 277 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, but they invested too much of him to just 278 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 3: move off him that quickly. 279 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 10: He didn't invest too much. I mean he's a third reason, 280 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 10: not like he's a first I get it. If he 281 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 10: was a first round pick, you're really giving him a 282 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 10: legit chance and all that. It's not that much difference 283 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 10: in a third and a field, get it, it's a 284 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 10: little different. But they're not Gabriel and you said it. 285 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 9: Rob g He hasn't looked good. 286 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 6: It's just not Yeah, all right. 287 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 4: Well, Chris, we gotta get you on again. We'll have 288 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 4: you on. We know you're the star. First things first, 289 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 4: that's on FS one. 290 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: But I do have this. We got Sean Merriman coming up. 291 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: But I gotta say this, Chris, there are people who 292 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: question the legitimacy of all sources. That's right of Martin 293 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: Weiss's wedding Tamurio, because you indeed were the officiator of this. 294 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: Are you ordained in the state of California. We want 295 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: to know. 296 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 10: I am, I say it by the powers invested in 297 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 10: me in this, by the state of California. So it 298 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 10: is a legit marriage, Alex told me. And when Alex 299 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 10: is ready, I'm ready. 300 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 3: Alex, Who say, Chris, really, it's just gonna take a 301 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 3: sizeable donation of the King movement, that's right. 302 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 4: You know what, Alex. 303 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: All you're gonna do is bring twelve clean uh uh 304 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: clean hoodies and then Chris could put the King Batri. 305 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 6: There could be a donation. Hey Chris, thanks for listening. 306 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 4: We appreciate you listening and calling. 307 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 6: In my man. 308 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 10: Yes, keep work, y'all found great. 309 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 6: Thank you buddy, Chris. There it is Chris Bussar. 310 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 4: He used to be around here for a couple of years, 311 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 4: wasn't he. 312 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 3: He used to be his key card. Don't work no more? No, no, 313 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 3: he's done here. Can I Can I not say rest 314 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 3: in peace? Christmas are anymore? Now that we know he 315 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 3: is alive? 316 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 4: Yes, we know he's alive. 317 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 6: Okay, okay. 318 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 319 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 320 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 321 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 2: listen live. 322 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 3: According to viewership numbers that the NFL released on on Wednesday, 323 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 3: the Cleveland Browns first preseason game aka the debut of 324 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 3: Shador Sanders, was the NFL's NFL Networks most watch preseason 325 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 3: contest since twenty fifteen, all right two point two million viewers. 326 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 3: According to the Volte, that debut was the number one 327 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 3: program on Friday night across both cable and broadcast television. 328 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 7: Big Numbers numbers and what those numbers, rob and what 329 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 7: to me what we have seen before. And by before 330 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 7: I mean two from a couple different people, from Shador 331 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 7: and Joe Flacco. And if you want to add Kenny 332 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 7: Pickett now Dylan Gabriel, we don't really know much about it. 333 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 7: He's just kind of here, you know, he hasn't really 334 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 7: had a chance, So I'll put him. I reserved for 335 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 7: him on the side. Right now. I'm really looking at this, 336 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 7: and I mean this sincerely. This ain't radio. This ain't 337 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 7: trying to be saying. 338 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: Make make sure, make sure you don't lose your credibility here. 339 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 7: I kem legitimately be Kiff not understanding why you don't 340 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 7: run with Shador Sanders. 341 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 6: Here's why. 342 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 7: This is the Browns who have done nothing with quarterbacks 343 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 7: for the last thirty forty years. 344 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 6: In fact, let me read you something, Tim not true. 345 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield one beat the Steels in the playoffs. 346 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 6: I'm glad you said. 347 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 7: Baker Mayfield, the guy that got rid of I Digress 348 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 7: when they got it right, they got it wrong and 349 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 7: let him go. Cole McCoy, Brandon Whedon, Jason Campbell, Brian Hoyer, 350 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 7: Josh McCown, Cody Kessler, Baker Mayfield was actually solid to 351 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 7: good for them. 352 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 6: Let him go. 353 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 7: Jakobe Brissett, Jameis Winston, we know he's just a turnover 354 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 7: weight to happen. 355 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 6: My point is, and. 356 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 7: Then, oh I left out one guy, the guy you 357 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 7: actually decided to do something. No one else in the history, 358 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 7: including Brett Farr, Joe Montana, Aaron Rodgers, Peyton Manning, no 359 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 7: nobody got two hundred and thirty guaranteed. 360 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 6: Deshaun Watson did. Who the Browns. 361 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 7: The Browns need to do exactly what they think they're 362 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 7: gonna do and do the opposite, and that is they 363 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 7: need to give Shadoor a chance. 364 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 6: And I mean this sincerely. Joe Flacco. We know what 365 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 6: Joe Flacco is. 366 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 7: He's probably the first or second best breaking in the 367 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 7: case of emergency in the NFL. Whether it's Kirk Cousins, 368 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,479 Speaker 7: Yo cousin, not my cousin, whether it's him, I know 369 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 7: what I got. 370 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 6: He's been that he is. 371 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 7: He's perfectly fine as a backup, you know what, he is, 372 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 7: very very good, serviceable backup. But for once, why don't 373 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 7: you try to find your guy and build up your guy. 374 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 7: Why don't you give you a chance and see if 375 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 7: he is good he's not. You got Dylan Gabriel and 376 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 7: you got Kevin Pickett Kenny Pickett to go with. And 377 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 7: to me, and I mean this, start to build something, 378 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 7: do something. Joe Flacco's gonna win you seven games, and 379 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 7: you're gonna be right back here trying to get a quarterback, 380 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 7: trying to figure it out. 381 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 6: Shud Do is clearly selling out. He's at the number 382 00:17:58,040 --> 00:17:58,719 Speaker 6: two jersey. 383 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 7: He's why people are watching, people are gonna go to 384 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 7: the games. And he also happens to be a pretty 385 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 7: solid quarterback from what we've seen thus far. And if 386 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 7: he isn't, fine, Dylan Gabriel get in there. But to me, 387 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 7: why go And I mean this, Why go to Joe 388 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 7: Flacco when it's just a recyclable I know what it is. 389 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 7: He's two years removed from the last time he was 390 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 7: good with us. Now he's two years older. We let 391 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 7: him go when he won a playoff game. Now we 392 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 7: want him back. And I genuinely don't understand. Yes, well, 393 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 7: he seems to be the better option, but you're gonna 394 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 7: win seven eight games, Max, why not go start to develop, 395 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 7: build for your future and have something moving forward that 396 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 7: also is a hot ticket item, that's selling jerseys that 397 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 7: could sell out the freaking stadium. 398 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 6: To me, I genuinely don't get to Joe Flacco. You 399 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 6: know what that is. You've been there before, Rob, you 400 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 6: know exactly what that is. What first got to stop games. 401 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: Okay, obviously you don't know anything about Cleveland Browns football 402 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 1: because they sell out. They don't have any empty seats. 403 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: So whether should doors the quarterback or not, that's what 404 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: they love that team and they've been showing up. So 405 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: it ain't about selling tickets or on a TV rating 406 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: for the Browns games. 407 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 4: No, No, I'm just trying to. 408 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 1: Say, like, like, none of that factors in. People are 409 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 1: gonna watch the games on Sunday during the season. People 410 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 1: are gonna go to Brown's games. They've been bad, they 411 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: haven't won anything, and people still when. 412 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 6: They lost the team. 413 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 4: No, No, that's not what I'm saying. 414 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: And you can't guarantee me that your door is going 415 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: to be better. 416 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 6: You don't know that. 417 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: That's in your that's your emotions getting the best of you. 418 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: But I'm saying I'm going to look at the coaches 419 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 1: who are invested. You're not invested in this. You're just 420 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 1: a bystander who is saying, yeah, this is a shiny 421 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: new toy. Let's just go put them. Just put them in. 422 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: It can't be any just put them in. The coach 423 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: is invested. That's his career, the general managers invested. 424 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 6: That's his career. 425 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 4: They're invested. 426 00:19:59,040 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 6: I think it's. 427 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: For guys like you and other people to just absolutely 428 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 1: think that these guys don't want to win, because I 429 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: don't believe that. I don't believe that they're not putting 430 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: Shador Sanders in because they. 431 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 4: Don't want to win. 432 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense. That's not the nature of 433 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: the game to win. They watch them every day in practice, 434 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 1: they watched the film. They don't believe it's the starting quarterback. 435 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: What part don't you get? 436 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 6: What's the only thing we've heard? No negative thing we've heard. No, No, 437 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 6: it's before he even got there. 438 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: I keep telling you, if he was that guy you're 439 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 1: talking about what he did at Colorado. You don't think 440 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: the Raiders need a quarterback long term? Tom Brady's right there. 441 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: There were other teams. The Steelers need a team. No, 442 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 1: I'm telling you about other teams that needed quarterbacks. And 443 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: your ratings thing, which is as weak as it gets 444 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: because Tim Tebow. I could give you ratings in twenty 445 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 1: twelve when Tim Tebow was a quarterback, and guess what, 446 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: they couldn't wait he won a playoff game for the Broncos, 447 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 1: and you know what, they couldn't wait to get rid 448 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: of him because they knew that he wasn't a good quarterback. No, 449 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: but that's my poem. Who wanted more in college? Who 450 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 1: want more in college? Tim Tebow or Shador Sandy? No, 451 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 1: let me, I'm asking you a question more. Okay, who 452 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: was a first round pick? Who was a first round 453 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: pick Tim Tebow? 454 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 6: Okay? 455 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: Who got their coach fired for moving up to go 456 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: pick Tim Tebow? 457 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,959 Speaker 4: That ultimately it cost him his job in Denver? 458 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 9: Right? 459 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: And my point to you, yes, my point to you is, 460 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: I'm giving you exhibit A with this. The fans love him, 461 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: and the TV ratings and the selling of the jerseys. 462 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 4: He sold a more Mets jerseys than anybody. 463 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: And guess what didn't make it to the major leagues 464 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: jerseys and all that. 465 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 6: That's that's window dress. That has nothing to do. 466 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 7: With we thought was a tailback. Nobody thought Tim Tebow 467 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 7: was a quarterback. We all knew he was a half back, tailback, 468 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 7: tight Endshaw you're looking at your door is an actual quarterback. 469 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 6: And here's the part I'm saying. Let's say he sucks. 470 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 7: Let's find out why am I rolling out old Joe 471 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 7: Flecco that hasn't. 472 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: How do you get your job in the NFL? How 473 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: do you get your job in the NFL? It's the 474 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: only sport where you practice more than you play, and 475 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: you earn your keep, you earn your spot. They watch 476 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: you more than you play. You practice ten times more 477 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 1: than you play in the NFL. So that's that's what 478 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: they go off of. That's why people are watchings. 479 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, that no. 480 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 7: You have heard and only see Did Patrick Mahons play 481 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 7: in game one? 482 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 6: Did Patrick Mahons playing game one of the preseason? I 483 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 6: could go on. You gave this same argument for justin Fields. 484 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 6: Try jumped into friend of you. The Steelers put the 485 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 6: field right there. 486 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: And that's what he would not write. You would not 487 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: right because he's not with the team. 488 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 6: And here's your. 489 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 1: Point year old quarterback. And now the first thing they 490 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: say the Jets, no, no, I'm not And the Jets 491 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: are like this, dude, can't even move the offense. 492 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 6: Did you read the stories about him? 493 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 1: Can't throw the ball consistently, and that's why this Dallas 494 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: moved off of him. 495 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 7: What I'm saying is, go see, maybe su Doer isn't great. 496 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 7: You know what Joe Flacco is. He's two years older 497 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 7: from the same guy that won you a playoff game 498 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 7: that you got rid of. So clearly you didn't want him. Man, 499 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 7: Now he's two years older. Didn't look great last year? 500 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: No, no, no, your argument was about selling jerseys, and 501 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: that's why that doesn't That doesn't mean anything. 502 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 6: Guy, that's when year old Aaron Rodgers. None of nobody 503 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 6: cares about that. None of this makes sense. 504 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: Joe Jeslo Fields is on his third team in three years. 505 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: That's so good, guy, that's the guy. You hit the 506 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: wagon too. We're good in twenty twenty five. Why is 507 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: that coaching general manager? We have Joe Flaco. 508 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 6: Here we go. 509 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 7: Man, you better start developing and building something and moving towards. 510 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: Nobody builds anything. That's not what they do because when 511 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: they were building. No, no, they don't. They don't do 512 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 1: that anymore. 513 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 2: For you. 514 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: Let me no, let me tell you Ja Aeron Rodgers, 515 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: Aeron Rodgers didn't play for three and a half years. 516 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: They don't build anymore. They put the quarterback in day one. 517 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: They don't build anything. And if you're not ready, they 518 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,479 Speaker 1: don't put you in. That's the point. If you're ready, 519 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: anybody else, All those quarterbacks you mentioned got thrown in 520 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: because they think that their franchise quarterback. 521 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 6: They don't believe your door in door won't get thrown in. 522 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 7: He's still may because they're sitting there saying Kenny Picktt 523 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 7: ain't nothing. 524 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 6: And Dylan Gabriel can be in this coming. Maybe it's him. 525 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 6: I don't. 526 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 7: My point is it can't be that you're selling me 527 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 7: Joe Flacko is the guy. Yes, he's a proven veteran 528 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 7: in the Super Bowl chat respectfully, but that can't be 529 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 7: you moving forward. Joe Flacco won with an amazing defense. 530 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: Manning Peyton Manning win a Super Bowl and late in 531 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: his career. Yes, whether the world we're now okay, okay, 532 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: I'm asking you did they didn't put brock up Brockwaller 533 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: in there, right? They put they won the Super Bowl 534 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: with an old quarterback, did they not? 535 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 4: That's my point. 536 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 6: They did. 537 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 7: Joe Flacco won a Super They didn't say no, let's 538 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 7: play brocks Waller because he's younger and he and he 539 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 7: represents the future. 540 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 6: No, they did not. They put the veteran in. They 541 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 6: did not put him. 542 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 7: Man Ever, compared Peyton Manning to Joe Flacco, Peyton Manning 543 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 7: is Peyton Manning. 544 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 6: Arguably the top five quarterback all time. 545 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 7: Both they both won Super Bowl that both he earned respect. 546 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 7: Joe was a solid quarterback who had an amazing defense, 547 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 7: Ali Brad Johnson, Alive, Trent Dilford. 548 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 6: He had one of the greatest Super Bowl runs. Go 549 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 6: look at the stats. 550 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: Nobody he had one of the greatest runs to a 551 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: Super Bowl and he quarterback has ever. 552 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 6: Peyton Manning in the same name. 553 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 4: And my point is an old quarter ever played and 554 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 4: it ain't. That's Joe flat you're talking about. 555 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 6: I want to TV waiting arguing Aaron Ers. Since that 556 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 6: makes I'll give you that. Okay, at least he's Aaron Rodgers. Okay, 557 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 6: I get it. That's Flacco. That's what the Browns just say. 558 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 7: No, we're gonna be stubborn and close our eyes because 559 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 7: we got Joe Flacco.