1 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: A professional dominatrix is a person who provides BDSM services 2 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: in exchange for money or other forms of compensation. A 3 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: dominatrix typically takes on a dominant role in a power 4 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: exchange dynamic with their submissive partner, who is willing to 5 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: submit to the dominatri's. 6 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 2: Control and authority. 7 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: During this week's episode, my guest will be sharing her insights, stories, 8 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: and expertise as a professional dominatrix. In addition, we will 9 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: discuss the role of communication, consent and negotiation, and BDSM 10 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: and how these practices help to ensure a safe and 11 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: fulfilling experience for everyone involved. To my guests, thank you 12 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 1: so much for coming on the show. How you doing, 13 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: how you feeling? 14 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. It's a blessing to be here. 15 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: Yes, blessing. 16 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: Come on now before wy are we start with your story. 17 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: I want to get your opinions on a few things. 18 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: What are some common misconceptions or stigmas surrounding kinks in 19 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: the black community. 20 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 3: Ooh, I was not expecting to be asked that question. 21 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 3: What I would say is one of the most common things, 22 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 3: especially within our community, especially with BDSM being so taboo. 23 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 3: I would have to say is that people would assume 24 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 3: that men in this lifestyle or people in this lifestyle 25 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 3: are number one weird. Number two, they would automatically assume 26 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 3: that if a man is submissive to a woman, that 27 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 3: that makes him homosexual, yes, or weak or data male 28 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 3: or he's a sin blah blah blah. First of all, 29 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 3: except that somebody goes after someone and does not get 30 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 3: the thing one out of that person. Right, this is 31 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 3: a consent. This is a total power exchange and a mutual, 32 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 3: mutually consensual benefit for both parties. They're walking away with something. 33 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 3: But I mean, I understand, especially with the topic of 34 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 3: sex and number number one and number two b DSN 35 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 3: being so tabooed because I mean, you think about it, 36 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 3: if you think about like men in a barbershop, they're 37 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,399 Speaker 3: talking about bitches, these my friends. 38 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 2: And holes and shit, right, they're. 39 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 3: Talking about bitches. Holes. They're talking about you know, popping 40 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 3: bottles and the club with sneakers they got to wear, 41 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 3: uh sports and everything. They're not talking about, Hey, I 42 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 3: just got bent over by this woman who I'm never 43 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 3: going to see again, and I gave her like a 44 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 3: piece of my salary forre Like, they're not discussing that 45 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 3: much for each other. 46 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: So, but do you think we're gonna ever get to 47 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: that point where Nigga's gonna be speaking about that shit freely? 48 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 3: You know what, I think eventually we will. It's already starting. 49 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 3: I mean sex one of the especially within you know, 50 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 3: sex work one of the oldest occupations, but for some 51 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 3: reason it's just super taboo and like people do not 52 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 3: want to discuss it. And sex work is a big umbrella. 53 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 3: First of all, it does not require conventional intercourse as 54 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 3: like other people want to go ahead and think about 55 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 3: it that way. And a lot of people are missing, 56 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 3: you know, They're like, Okay, well do you have such 57 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 3: such a clients And I'm like, no, no, no, I'm 58 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 3: doing the bending how I don't bend over you know, 59 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 3: expect me. There are a lot of men who have 60 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 3: been I want to say, pretty open about their experiences, 61 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 3: either with the dom or with themselves or you know what. 62 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 3: My key level is evolving. I thought I was into 63 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 3: this until I was introduced to something that I thought 64 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 3: was weird, and now I actually like it and enjoy it, 65 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 3: and now I can tell the people get to tell 66 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 3: too many people. But it's it's beginning to be normalized. 67 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 3: And I run a house on Clubhouse that's called Fetish 68 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 3: and it stands for furthering education to incorporate sexual health healthy. Yes, 69 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 3: we have a healthy conversation regarding sex positivity, all things 70 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 3: kink and fetish related. And it's just literally a chill 71 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 3: out spot for mature adults to talk about sex and 72 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 3: kings and fetishes and bds and within a healthy space 73 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 3: right pulling aloud or anything like that. And I think 74 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 3: having spaces like this and amongst other ones and different 75 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 3: podcasts like Horrible Decisions and like podcast I love them 76 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 3: to Pieces're coming to Atlanta eventually. But I think with 77 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 3: more groups, with more podcasts, with more people speaking open 78 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,559 Speaker 3: about these topics that are type doo, it'll make people 79 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 3: think like, Okay, I'm not weird for liking what I like. 80 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 3: It's just my preference. It's my choice. Nobody has to 81 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 3: yuck my yom. So I think with these types of 82 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,559 Speaker 3: groups and just people just talking about it more, it'll 83 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 3: answer some questions that people are afraid to ask. 84 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: Listen, that's how I know you work with white people, 85 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 1: because only white people say, don't yup somebody else's young baby. Now, 86 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: do you think that the media does a good job 87 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 1: of representation and showcases the diversity of sexual purposes and 88 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 1: kinks within our community. 89 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 3: Wow, these questions are good. 90 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 2: Come on, I gotta get my Oprah and we're gonna get. 91 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 3: To k Okay, cool, cool cool. The media does not 92 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 3: do I mean, I want to say that it's evolving, 93 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 3: but it's kind of kind of sort of not like honestly, 94 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 3: when you turn on the TV nowadays, you will see 95 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 3: some insane shit and be like, what the hell like 96 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 3: really going in? But I post a picture of my 97 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 3: feet and this is my third Instagram and has gotten 98 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 3: flagged and gotten deleted. So it's certain things that it's 99 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 3: just like, okay, we can push the line and doing 100 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 3: this BH that feat that is just right, that's that's worship. 101 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 3: Oh that's a problem. So I know when I first 102 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 3: thought about being in this lifestyle, I was naturally I 103 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 3: don't want to say naturally soon. I can't kind of 104 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 3: say I was naturally sinissen as a child because I 105 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 3: was brought that way. I was like, I was brought 106 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 3: that way, I was taught that way. I was the 107 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 3: only child. I did not have any brothers or sisters. 108 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 3: I have family that are adopted that I've worn with 109 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 3: and I have cousins and everything. But when I would 110 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 3: watch shows, I was into, you know, regular kids shit, 111 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 3: regular girly shit. And then when I was the Players Club, 112 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 3: when I saw the scene where Ronnie is thinking the 113 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 3: cop on the ass, and I'm like, oh, it's like 114 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 3: kind of fun, right, and I'm looking like, well, but 115 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 3: the police is supposed to protect us, like they're not 116 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 3: supposed to. 117 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: Be getting oh. 118 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 3: My gosh, And I was just like wow. But I mean, 119 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 3: if you look in media today and when you hear 120 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 3: the dominatus or will you see one like you see 121 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 3: me right now? Like I have like my hair in 122 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 3: the bun I got a T shirt on. When it's 123 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 3: time to put on the late text, I'm there, go 124 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 3: on and I look on TV and I see other 125 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 3: women who are doing the same things that I'm doing. 126 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 3: I don't see enough of us, right, I don't see 127 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 3: a lot of us at all. 128 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: Well, I don't see y'all at all. I see white women. 129 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I And when you google dominatex, you will see 130 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 3: nothing but white women. And it took me really, I mean, 131 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 3: I'll go into the whole story eventually about how I 132 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 3: became and a dom and everything, right, a little player 133 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 3: when you asks and everything. But it's not a lot 134 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 3: of us being represented a lot like it's it's well discouragion. However, 135 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 3: I do know that the general public probably would not 136 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 3: be looking, probably wanting to hear some sex some sex 137 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 3: worker story, which is unfortunate to say due to it 138 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 3: being stigmatized. But it's just I feel like if people 139 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 3: knew that we were multifaceted and that we had actual 140 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 3: vanilla jobs, that I have a vanilla job outside of here, 141 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 3: I work in tech. Wasn't able to go ahead and 142 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 3: work into tech without being a sex worker because that's 143 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 3: how I paid for school. Right, So a lot of 144 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 3: people like, wow, like you know, people don't have this 145 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 3: Madonna horror complex where they put women into two categories, 146 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 3: Like women are not a monolith. We can do a 147 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 3: lot of things. And I know I kind of got 148 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 3: off on a tangent on your your but it's not 149 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 3: a lot of us. 150 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: I think you make a good point as well, because 151 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: I feel like only black sex workers and that could 152 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: be wrong, but I have a lot of friends that 153 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: are sex workers, and I feel like their pages are 154 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: constantly being deleted non stop. 155 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 3: My TikTok was deleted too, and those same hashtags that 156 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 3: I was using under my pictures and videos that have 157 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 3: no nudity right there, palm colored people, no fency, y'all. 158 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 3: But y'all shit was still up there, cliped. I said, 159 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 3: oh my god, wow. So yeah, I really feel like 160 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 3: when it comes to us, the media friends upon it 161 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 3: due to our color oar skin. And that's because our 162 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 3: pages are constantly being. 163 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 2: Taped right right now. 164 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,839 Speaker 1: How are you introduced to the lifestyle of BBSM. 165 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 3: So back in twenty twelve, I was dating a preacher's kid, 166 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 3: and I did not know that he was into the 167 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 3: lifestyle at all. I started reaching kids, baby, yeah, And 168 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 3: I mean when you look at us like night and day. 169 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 3: I was twenty three, well twenty two going on twenty 170 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 3: three at the time, and I was just my regular 171 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 3: twenty two year old son, you know, ha, going out 172 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 3: here drinking and everything like that, having fun blah blah blah, 173 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 3: and in college and working blah blah blah, my own money, 174 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 3: what'll be doing on a Friday night? And him he 175 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 3: was just so, you know, just very soft and very coy, 176 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 3: and you know, I'll do anything for you and you 177 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 3: were so sweet and special, had flowers every other day. 178 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 3: He was the type of person where he took off 179 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:49,719 Speaker 3: his jacket and put it over a puddle and you 180 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 3: will walk over like on some you know, some movie shit, right. 181 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 3: I was just like, y, I. 182 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: Don't want that. 183 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, you cannot make bitch happy, y'all Like, excuse my friend, 184 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: but you know you you know, at the time, I'm like, 185 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 1: you know, I wasn't used to men being so catering 186 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: towards me, right, And he was just like, well, I 187 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: do think that you're wonderful to be around. 188 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 3: He was just like definitely the opposite from you know, 189 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 3: people that I dated. However, when it comes to women, 190 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 3: you know, I put women on a pedestal and I'm like, okay, 191 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 3: you're just saying that because you've got three sisters. He's like, no, no, no, 192 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 3: it goes beyond that, Like I am into FLR and 193 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 3: I'm like, that was that right, right? Okay? He said no, 194 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 3: that it sends for female led relationships, which is a 195 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 3: dynamic with m BBDSM community. So he lets me make decisions. 196 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 3: I am the authoritative figure. I am the person that 197 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 3: he looks up to for anything he wants me to 198 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 3: pick out his clothes. He wants me to tell him 199 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 3: how to dress. Any sort of executive could decisions come 200 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 3: through me. I say that we are hungry. I am hungry. 201 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 3: We are hungry. We go to the bathroom. If I 202 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 3: want to put on a pair of high heels, you're 203 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 3: helping me put them on, like different things. Down to 204 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 3: the tea and he was high protocol with it. So 205 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 3: I was just like, I'm not sure how to feel 206 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 3: about that because I'm so used to men, you know, 207 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 3: taking the lead, and he wants me to do this. 208 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 3: So he was just like, I got you, doesn't. So 209 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 3: he introduced me to his ex girlfriend, which I kind 210 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 3: of thought was awkward, but he told me that his 211 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 3: ex girlfriend was a DOM and she was black, and 212 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 3: I had never seen a black dom like prior to that. 213 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 3: I'm like, you'd be beating at this. And she's just like, 214 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 3: it's more than just needing it, Like she I paid 215 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 3: her for her time and she had me read some books. 216 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 3: I also got into cam work, so I started doing 217 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 3: webcam at night, making money in order to pay to 218 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 3: shadow her, like either individually, like with her teaching me 219 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 3: material or like hands on when I would accompany it 220 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 3: to her to like a scene or a session or oyous. 221 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: That was really nice of her, because I mean, even 222 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: though you pay her, a lot of people wouldn't put 223 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: people on game. 224 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 2: No, you know what I'm saying. So that's a real 225 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 2: one right there. 226 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 3: I feel like I'll forever be in debted to her 227 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 3: and she's she's wonderful. And that was back in twenty twelve, 228 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 3: and then from twenty twelve to twenty eighteen, I decided 229 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 3: to learn and practice. I had moved to Georgia in 230 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 3: like twenty fifteen, so our relationship like kind of like 231 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 3: ended with the physical like as far as me going 232 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 3: to her for services. I would reach out occasionally from 233 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 3: time to time, but she was just like, I think 234 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 3: you got it. And me and the guy that I 235 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 3: was dating had already broken up for like a totally 236 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 3: different reason. Nothing's wrong with him. But I moved to 237 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 3: Georgia and I was already dating someone else. But I 238 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 3: feel like I'm trying to find this book that she 239 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 3: gave me. It's called The Dark Psychology and gas Lighting Manipulation, 240 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 3: Mind Control Techniques for Influencing Human Behavior, How to camouflage, attack, influence. 241 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 3: So crazy, I also read I'm an observer. I have RBF. Naturally, 242 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 3: I have rest and bitch face. But it doesn't mean 243 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 3: that I'm not happy or I'm not observant, or that 244 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 3: I'm just like high all the time. I mean, granted, 245 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 3: I'm high and maybe like eighty percent of the time, 246 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 3: but I'll be watching people. So I decided to study 247 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 3: the and I read a book called The Ritual of 248 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 3: Dominance and Submission Guide to High Protocol Dominance and Submission, 249 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 3: and that helped me pretty much gain the type of 250 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 3: clientele that I want because I don't service all people, 251 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 3: and I also don't service all sessions or kinker fetish 252 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 3: types like I have heart limits myself. So I had 253 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 3: to learn that I had to learn what I liked. 254 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 3: I had to find my niche, and then I had 255 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 3: to make sure that I found through all that I 256 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 3: was actually able to cater to an audience that would 257 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 3: be listening or at least watching. So I was spending 258 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 3: eleven pm to four am every day doing camp work 259 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 3: and doing different types of camwork. And I know you're 260 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 3: probably like Dan, you're up late, and like yeah, because 261 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 3: that's when people put their kids and their wife to sleep. 262 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 3: Like this is the time that they were able on 263 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 3: the phone and get on shatter Bag and cam Solda 264 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 3: and my free cams and do what we need to 265 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 3: do and release. In some of the sessions, majority of 266 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 3: them would be feet related. I have my feet out 267 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 3: all on my Instagram. Some of them would be me 268 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 3: would be doing ASMR, so I would be reading and 269 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 3: a soft voice to the ab DC community, which is 270 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 3: the adult baby diaper community, like when I read them 271 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 3: bad time stories and they would pay me or you know, 272 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 3: send me tokens on the app in order to read 273 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 3: their specific one. I would branch them over to Skype 274 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 3: sessions I would do. I also do in person and virtue. 275 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 3: I still do these things, but I don't care anymore 276 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 3: because I'm just busy as fuck, Like right right, I'll 277 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 3: refresh my inbox and I'll see that somewhe booked the 278 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 3: session or inquired about one, and I'm like, all right now, 279 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 3: I've got to take time out of my day to 280 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 3: do this and that and this and that so and 281 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 3: I also mentor other baby doms whore trying to get started. 282 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 3: Since twenty eighteen, I decided to pursue then doom, which is. 283 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 2: Funny Financial Dominator and pro done. 284 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 3: It, which is professional dominated services since I'm servicing people 285 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 3: in person and I saved up enough money for me 286 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 3: to pay for me to go to school. 287 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: No, wait, so what where are some of the services 288 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: that you provide, like, because I know you do a lot. 289 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 3: Yes, specification, pegging. Oh, I pretty much do everything except 290 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 3: for scat, not jazz, scattered ship Okay, uh so when 291 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 3: but I do water sports, so I will pee on 292 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 3: you for a fee. But I do do scat, I 293 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 3: do not do knife play, and I do not do needles. Yeah. 294 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 3: There you can get pierced as in. 295 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: I'm just so surprised at how tabooed this is because 296 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: I feel like and maybe because I just have people 297 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: that's in this lifestyle, but I feel like this is 298 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: so common. 299 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 2: I feel like Kinks is forever growing. 300 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 3: It is, And you know what, I tried to touch 301 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 3: base with like some people that I've either had one 302 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 3: session or multiple sessions with down the road, because you know, 303 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 3: kinks change your limits, right or what you're into definitely changes. 304 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 3: So I'm like, hey, you know, I haven't heard from 305 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 3: you in a while. Are we good? They're like, oh, yeah, 306 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 3: it's just busy and everything like that. But I actually 307 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 3: wanted to explore something different because I saw a clip 308 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 3: that you posted on Twitter and you did that with 309 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 3: someone else. Can we try that? And I'm like, oh, 310 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 3: I didn't know you were into that, but absolutely. So 311 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 3: aside from pegging, I do trampling specifications, I give wedgies. 312 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 3: I am. Yeah, I do think I am into the 313 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 3: nineteen fifties of housewife role, but I do like it. 314 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 3: It's different into latex, into leather and PVC clothing, flogging, caning, 315 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 3: pretty much everything under the sun. Mummification is something that 316 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 3: is a feelin I restrict you, and the one that 317 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 3: I recently did, I don't know. There's a Twitter video 318 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 3: going viral right now where this man is in like 319 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 3: a box and he is being like all the air, 320 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 3: all the air is being stucked out of it. So 321 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 3: you just see the imprint of his silhouette and like 322 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:08,719 Speaker 3: there's like a tube in his mouth for him to breathe. 323 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 2: Wow. 324 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 3: So I kind of do something similar where I wrap 325 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:15,959 Speaker 3: you in saran rat because that's what I can't get 326 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 3: right now the commercial side, Serene rat, right, and I 327 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 3: will take out a pole for you to breathe, either 328 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 3: by mouth or by nose, but also your penis, and 329 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 3: either I'll step on it with my shoe, or I 330 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 3: will step on the barefoot, or I will milk you 331 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 3: into an orgasm or forced orgasm or edging, and you 332 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 3: can't do anything about it. Y'all. 333 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: I wish I could see my guests because how she 334 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: look and how she sound is not matching up with 335 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: the images in my head. 336 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 2: She looks so soft. 337 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: Spoken, well put together, like if she's a per smashion 338 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: niggas ball. 339 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 2: Y'all like it? 340 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 3: I love it? 341 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it's so crazy, like I can't even see 342 00:18:58,359 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: you like going in. 343 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 2: I can't see you breaking the nigga back. 344 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 3: In, like I dressed like this on purpose today. Yeah. 345 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 2: Really, it's then a. 346 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 3: W why it's been a while journey. I will say 347 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 3: that the men that are in this lifestyle and women 348 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 3: because I do service women too, and I actually have 349 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 3: I have a daughter, but she's not someone who I birth. 350 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 3: She is a little so she engages an age play. 351 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 3: She's twenty seven, is as a between the ages of 352 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 3: zero and two, so she is a little no. 353 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: No. You know what's so funny because I did my 354 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: research on you and I'm like, oh, she just texted 355 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 1: me too, Yeah I saw that, because I mean, we're 356 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: jumping the head. But one of my questions was how 357 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: do your family and friends feel about you being a 358 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 1: professional dominatrix. 359 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 2: And I was going to. 360 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: Ask you after that was about your daughter. But when 361 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: I went to her page, I'm like, well, wait, my 362 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 1: guests looked like she and my age group, and your 363 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: daughter looked like she a little bit younger than us, 364 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: and I was just like. 365 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 3: Nah, yeah, well she identifies between the ages of zero 366 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 3: and two. She has been in the lifestyle for eight years. 367 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 3: She met her daddy Dom, who was a girl. They 368 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 3: have been in a relationship for eight years. They met 369 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 3: on a porn site. Wow yeah, so love it first Megavite, 370 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 3: I guess, and then for about a year, for about 371 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 3: maybe six months to a year. I didn't know this, 372 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 3: but she told me she had been looking through my 373 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 3: tweets because she was looking for a mommy dom and 374 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 3: she had been going back to my tweets all the 375 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 3: way back in two thousand and nine. But she vetted 376 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 3: and studied me, and then she approached me via DM 377 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 3: on Twitter and I was five months ago and the 378 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 3: rest is history. She just fit helped me well, she 379 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 3: actually did herself. She paid off my car. 380 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: Wow, So what do you do as a mommy dom? Like, 381 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: like what is a mommy dom? 382 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 2: Like what do you do? 383 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 3: So I am caregiver or for this person? 384 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 2: So now I'm in the wrong business. 385 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 3: So I tend to her as if she is her 386 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 3: little age. So I'm like, wake up, princess, it's a 387 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 3: new day. Like I wake her up. I send her 388 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 3: a text message. Now mind you. She lives in Florida. 389 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 3: I am in Georgia. She is planning to come here. 390 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 3: Her and her daddy dam are kind of in here 391 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 3: to stay for like a week, which we're going to 392 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 3: at Airbnb and we're gonna make some content stuff. So uh, 393 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 3: she is part of the sinking community. They all are, 394 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 3: so that should be fun. But in regards to our 395 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 3: day to day activities, why she tex me, Probably nothing new. 396 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 3: You don't need anything right now. She's probably asked me 397 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 3: what I'm doing. But we wake up. She's she's just like, 398 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 3: can I have a snack? And I'm like, absolutely not. 399 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 3: You're gonna have breakfast because that's the most important mill 400 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 3: of the day. I'll get on FaceTime with her while 401 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 3: she cooks or either she will send me a picture 402 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 3: of you know, what she's going to make or what 403 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 3: she is eating. Aside from that, I asked, you know, 404 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 3: what are we going? What are we doing today? She works? 405 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,719 Speaker 3: She works at a daycare, which is ironic for her 406 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 3: to be, but she works to jobs. She helps out 407 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 3: with the household. She reached out to me and asked me, 408 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 3: what do you need? How can I serve you? What 409 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 3: are the things that you need? Because I like to 410 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 3: please you. Me and her do not have a sexual relationship. 411 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 2: Will you have a sexual relationship with her? 412 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 3: No, that's my baby m M. But she helps out 413 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 3: with the bills and everything. She's just like, can you 414 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 3: give me a breakdown of the things that I need 415 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 3: to do, like by this week? What do you need 416 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 3: from mere? She has been in childcare for some time 417 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 3: and she does make good money. Yeah, she's good. She's 418 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 3: really good to me. And outside of that, we do 419 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 3: have movie nights now. She loves Lee Low and Stitch. 420 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 3: She loves Jojo c why. She loves putting her hair 421 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 3: and goes. She loves candy. She loves pizza rolls and 422 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 3: will eat them none stop unless I reprimand her. But 423 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 3: she's not the Disney looking at those types of movies 424 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,479 Speaker 3: things we watch true crime when we interact this as 425 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 3: a family or when we FaceTime. But she does like 426 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 3: baking cookies and sweets, and she does get into mischief 427 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 3: and sometimes she speaks out of turn, which I have 428 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 3: to go ahead and correct and get punishment when necessary. 429 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 3: It's just watching adult child pretty much. 430 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: But do you ever think, like, outside of like this 431 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: being your profession, do you ever think about where the 432 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: stem from? For me, well, we'll get to you later, 433 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: but for her, okay, or just for anybody that wants 434 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 1: to be that's in this the mommy dump into mommy 435 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: dom or daddy dom, Like, do you ever think like 436 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: like there's something happened or. 437 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 3: So not all kings are rooted from trauma whatever some 438 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 3: of them. Some traumas do play a part or role 439 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 3: into how this person has a king, but it may 440 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 3: not be rooted in trauma. So with her, she's adopted 441 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,719 Speaker 3: and she didn't really have like a mommy and daddy 442 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 3: figure growing up. She's adopted by her cousin, remember, but 443 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 3: it's still not the same. And her parents died before 444 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 3: like she hit the age of eighteen, so this was 445 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 3: something she had needed, and she reached out to me 446 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 3: for she had reached out to a couple of mommy 447 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 3: dons and they wanted to use her as a service 448 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 3: of like someone who would be cooking and cleaning and 449 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 3: washing in the clothes and taking care of their biological kids. 450 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 3: And I'm like, that is not what the little was 451 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 3: supposed to do. Nique between the ages of zero and two, 452 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 3: get a service of it. 453 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, but also little is supposed to be paying no 454 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: bills at the age of two now. 455 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 3: At all, this is something that she wanted to do. 456 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 3: I didn't tell her that there was anything monetary that 457 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 3: she needed to provide. She told me that this is 458 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 3: something that she wants to do because she she thinks 459 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 3: that I deserve to look good and to be happy 460 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 3: and that make her feel safe though I do, and 461 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 3: she comes to me for everything, like she'll call me 462 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 3: at the drop of the dome like, hey, can you 463 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,719 Speaker 3: help me with this? And I'm happy to help her. 464 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 3: It's not like it's a chore or what it is 465 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 3: this person who want. She gives me space to be 466 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 3: in my vanilla lifestyle whenever I need that space, however, 467 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,959 Speaker 3: so she can come to me for anything, right and 468 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm her protective, like, that's my baby girl, 469 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 3: so she's not going anywhere. At first, there was adamant 470 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 3: on taking littles in the first place, because it's a 471 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 3: responsibility taking care of a child. So imagine an adult 472 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 3: one who knows what they should be doing, but they're 473 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 3: going to be doing the opposite right right, right, And 474 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 3: I have to get punishment whenever necessary, but it's not 475 00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 3: too much. That may be too much for her, But 476 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 3: in my opinion, I think I'm fair. I think I'm 477 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 3: more than fair. 478 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: That's what all moms say, right, that's true, especially black moms. Yeah, 479 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 1: so I can only imagine the amount of research that 480 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 1: you do because I was assumed that you would have 481 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 1: to stay on top of all the latest trends and techniques, right. 482 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,719 Speaker 3: Yeah. That and also because the fetish lifestyle is just 483 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 3: you can go down and rad the hole, right, and 484 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 3: there's no I don't want to say that there's no 485 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 3: right or wrong way to do things, but just keep 486 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 3: in mind that your perspective of how to perform or 487 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 3: engage with the kid may be different from someone else. 488 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 3: I definitely asks I do my research online. I read books, 489 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 3: I actually go to other subs and ask about their 490 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 3: experiences with their dom. What are some things that you 491 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 3: are working on. I'm cool with subs. 492 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 2: That are really thoughtful. 493 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 3: Thank you. If you are own, I do not reach out. 494 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 3: I will go ahead and ask your DOM or your owner, 495 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 3: your handler for permission to speak with that person individually, 496 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 3: or I will just go ahead and speak to the 497 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 3: DOM because I'm not allowed to speak to their sub 498 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 3: that's who they engage with. But it's important to do 499 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 3: research and if she does go outside in trouble for that, 500 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 3: I've been on fast time with her where me and 501 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 3: her daddy DOM have made her stand in the corner 502 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 3: like and do wall sets for like an hour. 503 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 2: Wow. 504 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 3: And that's just for a little punishment. My punishments get 505 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 3: a little bit severe and sadistic. I'm a stated so 506 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 3: I thrive on the and I get pleasure from other 507 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 3: people's paying anyway. So I try to be a little 508 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 3: bit gentle to her because she is a little that 509 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 3: anybody else can get to smoke. Right. Yeah, I also 510 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 3: mentor other doms because I know how difficult it can 511 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 3: be to navigate through the fetish community on your own, 512 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 3: and why not work smarter instead of hard? Granted, sex 513 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 3: work is definitely work. It is something that you have 514 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 3: to be consistent in doing to reap the benefits. However, 515 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 3: I'd rather show you like, hey, don't do this because 516 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 3: you'll make a mistake, and this is a tried and 517 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 3: true mechanism that will actually get you to get the 518 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 3: money you deserve. I have a mentee. Her name is 519 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 3: a Taurus. Shout out to touris if you really be 520 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 3: listening to this. She took my course and I think 521 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 3: like maybe one or two weeks later she had a 522 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 3: two thousand dollars virtual customer. That works. 523 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: But I think the reason why you're like I think 524 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: the reason why you're like that, though, is because your 525 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: mentor was like that with you. 526 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's trying. 527 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 3: To be because nobody ever knows anything. I'm a for 528 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 3: other student, and if I don't know shit that my 529 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 3: mentees are asking, I'm gonna make sure I'm gonna ask 530 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 3: somebody else, either just a mentor that I feel is 531 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 3: vetted and responsible and has a good reputation in this 532 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 3: community and has not been relisted, and someone I know 533 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 3: what the experience. I definitely reach out to people, especially 534 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 3: when I don't know something. Hey, I'll be right back, 535 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 3: because I don't want to give anybody the wrong information. 536 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 3: That's how you can hurt people in yourself. 537 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. 538 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: So how do you ensure the safety and well being 539 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: of your clients during sessions? And what protocols do you 540 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: have in place to ensure that everyone involved, including yourself, 541 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: has given informed consent. 542 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 3: Consent consent, consent, that is the key word. And when 543 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 3: it comes to like, let's just say, like if a 544 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 3: customer or a client reaches out to me and they 545 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 3: fill out the in person session application, right and my leak, 546 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 3: there are a list of questions that I need to 547 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 3: be able to know and address before we even talk 548 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 3: about negotiations or vetting, right, And some of these are important, well, 549 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 3: all of them are important. So I mean, aside from 550 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,959 Speaker 3: asking you know, how long you've been in a lifestyle, 551 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 3: please enter your contact information, I'm asking things as far 552 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 3: as they're a little bit more and death not even 553 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 3: about where you found me or what's your session budget? 554 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 3: What are your heart limits? Because I don't want to 555 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 3: do anything that's going to hurt either one of us, 556 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 3: and I also want to respect your boundaries. And I 557 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 3: ask you know, to list any types of kings and 558 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 3: names that you may find offensive to you. I definitely 559 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 3: do not want to call you a com dumpster. If 560 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 3: that's not what you prefer to be called, you may 561 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 3: be used this one. But you may want me to 562 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 3: speak to you like this. And I actually speak to 563 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 3: my clients like this. They know to you to my 564 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 3: authority without me having to y'all at them, because they 565 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 3: know I'm going to bring this slope. But I do 566 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 3: ask about you know, do you have any medical or 567 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 3: mental health issues or concerns or conditions that I should 568 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 3: know about. 569 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 2: It's not important. 570 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not used to like discriminate or anything, but 571 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 3: I want to help navigate our arrangement and like the 572 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:59,479 Speaker 3: best way possible. Yeah, and I carry during my sessions. 573 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: I already know you've got your piece on you at 574 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: all times. 575 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 3: All times my clock nineteen make sure that she accompanies me. 576 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 3: I try to tell people that you know, hey, like 577 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 3: your kink is not a mental illness or it shouldn't 578 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 3: prohibit you from doing anything. However, if you have one chick, 579 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 3: let me know, let it be you know, please, like 580 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 3: it's not to go ahead and say well, this can't 581 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 3: happen for us to navigate our arrangement because consent is key, 582 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 3: and consent not only happens before the session, it's during 583 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 3: the session, and then we talk about it after the 584 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 3: session during our aftercare, which is subject to different customers, 585 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 3: and your after care session is going to be different 586 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 3: depending on whatever your kinks or whatever you want it 587 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 3: to be. Just asks that you know, if people are 588 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 3: into like the kinks that they listed, like, if you 589 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 3: find it fulfilling and arousing, cool, If you're doing it 590 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 3: as a form of self harm, not cool it all. Yeah, 591 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 3: BDSM and the subcommunity use are a great lifestyle to adopt, 592 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 3: but it should never be used with the intention of 593 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 3: hurting anybody or hurting yourself or someone else. If you 594 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 3: are struggling with that, and I have that in my application, 595 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 3: I'm like, if you're struggling with that, how that unity am? 596 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 3: Because I know a lot of people they have vanilla issues, 597 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 3: like and I'm talking about you know, just regular life shit. 598 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 3: They're adulting just like I am. We go through this 599 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 3: life shit together. 600 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 2: Life is hard. 601 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 3: But if you need to message me as a friend 602 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 3: because you are using like kink life to navigate from 603 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 3: your vanilla issues, because your life, that's that's not I 604 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 3: prefer that you reach out to me and we talk 605 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 3: about this before we even engage in a session. We 606 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 3: may not even engage in one. I may have to 607 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 3: go ahead and refer you to a their and I 608 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 3: don't mind doing so, right, but consent is something that 609 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 3: is needed throughout. If at any time during the session 610 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 3: or seeing that we're doing you feel uncomfortable, or I 611 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 3: can gauge that you were in pain and you're trying 612 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 3: to bear and take it, I'm stopping the scene all together. 613 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 3: Some people I don't know, and in some cases with 614 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 3: with there are extreme kinkes. I may have to go 615 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 3: ahead and draft up a agreement just saying you know, hey, 616 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 3: this is something that we are both consenting to. This 617 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 3: is a negotiation. You have the obligation to go ahead 618 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 3: and tap out of this by using a safe word 619 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 3: or a scheme at any time. So if you're telling 620 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 3: me yellow, I'm gonna go ahead and like back off 621 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 3: a little bit. If you're telling me red, scene is over, 622 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 3: we're not doing this because I want to make sure 623 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 3: that you were good. I do not want to want 624 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 3: sexent me to the er. It's the last thing not 625 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 3: what I want for either of us, but it's the 626 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 3: application is near to protect me, it's also get to 627 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 3: protect the person that's applying. And then their contact information 628 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,720 Speaker 3: is given to one of my subs, the alpha sub, 629 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 3: who is in the police department. I'm gonna not gonna 630 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 3: say which one or which state. He will run my 631 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 3: background checks for me to ensure that the person is 632 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 3: who they say they are. And there's some uh procedures 633 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 3: that I follow prior to or in including of to 634 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 3: when I get to the particular scene. Because I don't host, 635 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 3: I travel. MM, no one comes to me. I'm a 636 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,240 Speaker 3: I'm an alcohol. 637 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 2: So wait, so what are your living. 638 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 3: So heart limits for me? Don't ask me about No. 639 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 3: Somebody actually I like did and they actually want to 640 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 3: pay me a lot to like make scatt Brownie's. I'm 641 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 3: not going to be making that they're gonna take my 642 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 3: stuff and use them. I sold my people before, so 643 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,839 Speaker 3: I'm not you know, but you would sell your shit too. 644 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 3: I would sell my ship too. I saw my Brazilian 645 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 3: wax shavings, I saw my toenail clippings, my old house 646 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 3: slippers like what I got on now? Are about to 647 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 3: like instead of throwing them a jar in the garbage round. 648 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 3: I just like to sell them for like fifty dollars. 649 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 1: How much is shit going for these days really depends. 650 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,760 Speaker 1: I'm so intriguing, It really depends. 651 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 3: I've sold my pee for about fifty twe hundred dollars 652 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 3: an ource. You look and I'm like, hey, don't use 653 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 3: the sport drug test because I can't help you put that. 654 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 3: But there are a lot of things in the creuny 655 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 3: old worn socks. I'll go to the gym and wear 656 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 3: the same sock for a week, the same sock, and 657 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 3: that is disgusting. But I'll put it in machine bag 658 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 3: or ziplock and I'll ship it off to you four 659 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 3: hundred dollars and they like you. 660 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 2: But you know what's so funny. 661 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: I remember when there was a time where girls were 662 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: going to Dubai to get shipped off for like mad money. 663 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:04,439 Speaker 2: Do you remember that? 664 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? They still are, apparently. I don't even think that 665 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 3: that's actually stopped. 666 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 1: No more. 667 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,280 Speaker 3: I think due to the shame that it has gotten, 668 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 3: people are probably doing it a little bit more discreet. 669 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 3: I don't want to go to Dubai to get shipped 670 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 3: on now. I will gladly go over there to ship 671 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 3: on somebody. Yes, yeah, I would have no problem. It's 672 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 3: a hard limit for me because I hate the smell 673 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 3: and I hate the way it looks, and I'm like, 674 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 3: oh my god. So that's why I But other than that, 675 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,359 Speaker 3: medical play and knife play because I don't know when 676 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 3: it comes to blood the way that it is drawn. 677 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 3: Like even I can't even look at my blood when 678 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 3: I get like blood work done, I have to look 679 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 3: away because too much. But if I do impact, meaning 680 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 3: if I spank you or flog you or beat you 681 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 3: and you happened to be luddy, I would use your 682 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 3: blood and go ahead and paint on a canvas like 683 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 3: finger paint from that, and then I'll give it to 684 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 3: you as a job. 685 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I sign for you. I got to see these videos, man, 686 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 2: I am intrigued. 687 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 3: A lot that you do. I would just say, just 688 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 3: don't put yourself in the box when it comes to 689 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,320 Speaker 3: the BDS and lifestyle, because you can literally get lost 690 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 3: in it if you just explore. I go to munches, 691 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 3: which is like, uh, it's a gathering where kinksters go 692 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 3: in a vanilla setting where we can talk and socialize 693 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 3: amongst each other. That is not the same as betting 694 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 3: or negotiating, you're just having dinner or lunch with someone. 695 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 3: It's a way in order to network with people that 696 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 3: you could potentially play with, right, And that's how I 697 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 3: always I end up playing with others as well, in 698 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 3: the form of lifestyle sessions. So any type of major 699 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 3: events or munches, or if you have to go to 700 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 3: a dungeon, or if someone's having a slave auction at 701 00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 3: their home where they auction off their services, and we 702 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 3: get that. My need to charity on all the way 703 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 3: into that, and that's how we play together. But anybody 704 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 3: who's just like, hey, I got to keep this on 705 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,320 Speaker 3: the hush and this discreet. My wife can't know, nobody 706 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 3: can know. I'm in a position of power. This cannot 707 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 3: get out. Oh you're paying, you're paying for privacy. I'm 708 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 3: gonna charge you for it. I'm not leaving that. I 709 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 3: don't leave my house for less than three fifty I 710 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 3: don't care if it's just to kick you in the 711 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 3: nuts or just to spit on you for five minutes. 712 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 3: Three point fifty is the least, and that is actually 713 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 3: a low ball. My services generally go between three fifty 714 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 3: to five hundred. The most that someone has paid someone's 715 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 3: paid a thousand. It was a girl, let's start, and 716 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 3: I got a chance to peg her pit a thousand. 717 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,280 Speaker 2: What's your most expensive service? 718 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,760 Speaker 3: Pegging? Because that shit takes a lot of work. 719 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:01,720 Speaker 2: You know what's so funny? 720 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 1: My next question was because because I noticed that pagan 721 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: has grown is getting really popular. 722 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 2: So have you noticed this trend among your clients? Like, 723 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 2: it's this something that you. 724 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 3: Yes, and I have told people because people are I'm like, god, 725 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 3: you do that. I'm like, yo, it's just a pro 726 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 3: state massage. You're just getting your prose state massage. And 727 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 3: this is one of the reasons why I really don't 728 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 3: take men as seriously because your g spot is in 729 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 3: your ass? How dare you yell at me or tell 730 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 3: me what the fuck you think you ever did or 731 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 3: whatever like that. But anyway, I get a lot of 732 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 3: men who are like, yo, I want to try it, 733 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 3: or hey, I've done this before and I actually liked it. 734 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 3: I can't tell nobody else, but at least I'm comfortable 735 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,280 Speaker 3: telling you or you know, can you do a session 736 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 3: that way? The last booty hole I had out Rich 737 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 3: and he was cool about it. He was he was fine, 738 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 3: he was fine. I fixed them up by, you know, 739 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 3: made sure that he didn't walk out here? Would you 740 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 3: be doing? 741 00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 2: You going in like that? 742 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 3: I think it was a while for him. And I 743 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 3: have three, uh tho those That one was like pretty big. 744 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,920 Speaker 3: It was pretty gressy. It's not as long as like 745 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 3: my tendage one, but it is a and it has 746 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 3: like a I guess the girth is like two and 747 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 3: a half inches maybe three. And I wasn't even going 748 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 3: hard as I usually do. And I will say pegging 749 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 3: is a workout. You know how men com playing that? 750 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 3: Oh my god, Like I'm all, you can't get on 751 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 3: top and we're like no, no, no, I can't do that 752 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 3: and everything. Men be putting the work and that shit. 753 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 3: Maybe Like I'm like, I see what you're saying now, 754 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 3: because I'm the one that's putting people in different positions. 755 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 3: I'm putting their legs up and everything. If you go 756 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 3: on my Twitter media, I'm gonna retweet some videos that 757 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,800 Speaker 3: I've done, you'll be able to see that these niggas 758 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 3: in different positions. That ship is a workout. I don't 759 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 3: wish for anybody who prepare. 760 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 2: How does that make you feel? 761 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,839 Speaker 3: Like? Do you? Yes, I'll be slapping ass and all 762 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,399 Speaker 3: tongue and call me daddy and everything. I have their 763 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 3: leash on when I'm doing it, so I can pull 764 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 3: them back and rhythm into me. I'm like a combination 765 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,399 Speaker 3: between Justice Later and like a little bit of Brian 766 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,440 Speaker 3: Pumper or Wesley Pipes. Because I do get disrespectful, I 767 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,320 Speaker 3: start saying crazy shit to you. The mind fuck you 768 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,959 Speaker 3: while you're getting the experience you deserved. But you're gonna 769 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 3: enjoy it. 770 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 1: Hey, fact that you and I can only imagine the 771 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 1: type of niggas that you're fucking like because you're in 772 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 1: the South, so I know niggas is like big niggas. 773 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 3: A lot of the majority of them black men, which 774 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 3: I love. I love being a safe haven for them. 775 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 3: And know this expo the case and fetishes. A lot 776 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 3: of these men come and positions of power. They're in 777 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 3: professions where no one gets to tell them what to do. 778 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 3: They're either cops, they're lawyers. Uh, they are engineers, they 779 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,240 Speaker 3: are preachers. My first customer down here was a pastor. 780 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:55,400 Speaker 2: Well, hold on, we're gonna get to that. 781 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 3: We're gonna get into that. These are professions where they 782 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 3: are wearing the hat all the time. So in order 783 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 3: to take it off because they're like, y'all, I don't 784 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,359 Speaker 3: want to feel like that shit all the time. I 785 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 3: got to govern like when I go to work, and 786 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 3: then I got to govern the house when I come home. 787 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 3: So they come to me for release and that's appreciated. 788 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,839 Speaker 1: This concludes part one of this week's episode. Please stay 789 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,279 Speaker 1: tuned for part two, which will be dropping next week. 790 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,439 Speaker 1: The Professional Homegirl podcast is a production of the Black 791 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: Effect Podcast Network. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the 792 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,719 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app, app a podcasts, or wherever you listen to 793 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 1: your favorite shows. Don't forget to subscribe and rate the show, 794 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,919 Speaker 1: and you can connect with me on social media at 795 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 1: the PHG podcast