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Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Catherine, I'm excited for today's episode. You know, I

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Speaker 2: was driving and there was something that came up for

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Speaker 2: me and I was I wanted to just frame the

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Speaker 2: question to you, what is something in your day that

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Speaker 2: you are not prioritizing that you know you need to prioritize.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I could come up with a couple of things,

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Speaker 1: let's hear them. Okay, Obviously working out he was doing

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Speaker 1: so good for so long. But what you want to

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Speaker 1: do well, I mean I want to want to.

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Speaker 3: I want you to want to do I want.

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Speaker 1: One hundred percent that's I need the I want the

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Speaker 1: watch to do that. No, but for sure, definitely I

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Speaker 1: haven't been doing my Bible study in the morning. That

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Speaker 1: is definitely one that I could do better at.

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Speaker 3: What else that's really it? I think?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Mostly what about you?

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Speaker 2: I'm just curious on the working out thing though, too,

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Speaker 2: because you did do you were doing you were doing

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Speaker 2: pans Dam for how many weeks? Was it was like good?

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Speaker 3: I did it for the three months three months?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's like I think you like you said

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Speaker 2: like you wanted to want to want to work out.

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Speaker 1: Well, I wanted to like, this is terrible because I

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Speaker 1: know that, like I wanted to be like that person

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Speaker 1: that when I did that, I was like, oh, I

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Speaker 1: that way. I mean, I was fine when I was

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Speaker 1: for me. It wasn't like that mental time, you know,

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Speaker 1: or whatever. So it wasn't like I felt like I

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Speaker 1: needed it to be like in the right headspace. Is

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Speaker 1: maybe why I don't feel like but I do feel

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Speaker 1: not as strong now. It's just it wasn't like a

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Speaker 1: mental thing for me where I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: realizing I think that that's why it wasn't this like

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Speaker 1: my mental release is better off with Like I can

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Speaker 1: be fine with that at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: just reading a book or watching TV or sitting down

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Speaker 2: So then then why would you want to add it back?

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Speaker 1: Well, because I need to for my health and I've

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Speaker 1: gained back way, which is fine. I'm not like down

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Speaker 1: would love to have that motivation back to get it

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Speaker 1: back and to feel stronger. I was definitely feeling stronger

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Speaker 1: lifting weights and I did enjoy that, So I mean,

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Speaker 1: I definitely plan on getting back to it.

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Speaker 3: I just need that motivation back.

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Speaker 2: It's an interesting thought though, because if it's like, if

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Speaker 2: it's not something that you enjoy or want to do,

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Speaker 2: most people then probably won't make the time then to

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Speaker 3: And that's me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think we could all probably agree with

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Speaker 1: working out, Like, whether you want to or not, we

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Speaker 1: kind of need to for our health.

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Speaker 2: They say, well, here's the thing though, They say, like, sure,

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Speaker 2: there's all the studies about weightlifting and all that stuff

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Speaker 2: is good for you, but they also say just getting

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Speaker 2: ten thousand steps is really good, right, so you enjoy walking. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So maybe that's the switch where it's like, yeah, okay, yes,

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Speaker 2: there are there benefits to lifting weights, sure, but if

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Speaker 2: you're going to pick one, which walking is so good

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Speaker 2: for your heart health, yeah, and you're cardiovascular and your

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Speaker 2: energy and your stress, like go for a thirty minute.

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Speaker 3: Walk, Yeah, that's like that, and it's even ten.

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Speaker 2: Thousand steps, Like, well, I know they say ten thousand,

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Speaker 2: but like thirty minute walks?

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Speaker 3: Would you take a thirty minute walk? At least?

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Speaker 1: For me, if I would take at least a thirty

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Speaker 1: minute walk a day, I would usually hit close to that.

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Speaker 1: But I ye, yeah absolutely, so like yeah, so no,

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Speaker 1: that's a good point. I mean, and I do think

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Speaker 1: I'm like, you're right, that's a very good point. Like

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Speaker 1: I could go walk and it would get for me,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so maybe that's.

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Speaker 2: Where because A you can be by yourself, you can

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Speaker 2: be on your phone, yeah you can, you know, like absolutely,

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Speaker 2: and you can get sometimes I'll do I'll just go

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Speaker 2: I know, I save certain things for the walk. But

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Speaker 2: I think for you, like and anyone else like and

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Speaker 2: for me too, like that is so good. Just do

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Speaker 2: that every day, right, right, No, prioritize that, Yeah, good point.

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Speaker 2: You're welcome.

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Speaker 3: Thanks to check in.

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Speaker 2: When do we check in? Because there should be checks

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Speaker 2: and balances?

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Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, Well it's cooling off, so that helps me.

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 1: I like to walk in the cold, which is weird,

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, let's start next week.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you want to a walking partner, like,

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Speaker 2: I love to.

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Speaker 3: Walk, so I'd like to do that.

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Speaker 2: Like she's like, I like that alone, and then that's.

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Speaker 3: That's just me being honest.

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Speaker 1: Mostly I do like to walk alone, but there are

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Speaker 1: two times I love to walk, like if I haven't

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Speaker 1: seen you in a while, Yeah, we can catch up

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Speaker 1: on so much in a thirty minute walk.

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Speaker 2: I mean I mean literally she's like wait, what what what?

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Speaker 4: I do look forward to those when I'm in the

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Speaker 4: mood to get all the catch up stuff right and

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Speaker 4: like I haven't talked to Dan a while, and like,

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Speaker 4: so much has happened in your world when we.

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Speaker 3: Go on a walk.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, okay, so we saw soa Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: what's the what's the checks and balances?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, like in a in a month? Do

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Speaker 2: we check back? On December eighteenth, and say sure, and

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Speaker 2: then maybe you know what's great. You know how we

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Speaker 2: love to check things off. Yeah, you should put walk

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Speaker 2: in your calendar every day. Then you can then.

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Speaker 1: Show that's what I was doing with my walks and

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Speaker 1: workouts before. Okay, but what am I checking you on?

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Speaker 1: What do you want to I'm great, No, they don't

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Speaker 5: No, I know.

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Speaker 2: And that's the thing, because I'm like, I like, you know,

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Speaker 1: Other yeah, and then I run and then I walk.

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Speaker 3: And then so basically you do a lot. No, no, no,

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Speaker 2: No, but like I have to at least walk every

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Speaker 2: day no matter what. Like that's just for my own

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Speaker 2: like for everyone's sake. But I was thinking about in

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Speaker 2: prioritize the working out, which is great, but there's other

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it's just.

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Speaker 1: We all put things off that we know we need

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Speaker 2: sometimes too, when something feels overwhelming, like maybe working out

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Speaker 2: you know, starting this foundation and how it's like it

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Speaker 3: It's kind of like where do you start?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that is that seems so so like for

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Speaker 2: And there's not one that's like even said like I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I need to just start something where it's

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Speaker 2: don't know, just check in maybe see if I've done something.

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Speaker 3: Sure month to will that feel like work to you

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Speaker 2: So like yes and no no, because I will want

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Speaker 2: I like I have like this dream where I'm like

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Speaker 2: maybe I'll do like that subscribe or not subscribing, but

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Speaker 2: I'll do something where it's like once a month, I

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Speaker 2: like when survivors or people are going through a divorce

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Speaker 2: where it feels like work, and I don't want feel

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Speaker 2: doesn't feel like work. It feels like it's something out.

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Speaker 3: That's what I was going to say, have the want.

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Speaker 2: But I have the pull of I got too much

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Speaker 1: You need to do, in my opinion, do something that

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Speaker 1: does not feel like work. Yeah, because I think for

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Speaker 1: you it's kind of like you have time to prioritizing

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Speaker 1: working out for you personally, but that's it.

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Speaker 3: Otherwise you feel like you should be working or being

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Speaker 3: a mom.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's where I think it would be key

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Speaker 2: Thanks well on this. We have Sadie robertson huff Did

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Speaker 2: you watch her on duck Dynasty?

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Speaker 3: Not all of it, but yeah, some of it, Okay,

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Speaker 2: Well it's so hard the prioritizing and like, what are

438
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Speaker 2: you leaving out that you need to prioritize that you're

439
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Speaker 2: not doing for yourself because I think again, as a mom,

440
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Speaker 2: it's like the first thing that I do is get

441
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Speaker 2: the kids ready for breakfast. I have to peace so

442
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Speaker 2: bad by the time they get on that damn bus.

443
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Speaker 2: But yet I won't even like it's just like got

444
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Speaker 2: to get them ready, make pack this, and okay, let's

445
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Speaker 2: go back through the site words again. And it's like

446
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Speaker 2: you're but the discipline of waking up that ten minutes

447
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Speaker 2: early to meditate or to do something for myself. I

448
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Speaker 2: can't do it.

449
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not good at that either.

450
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Speaker 2: Or reading scripture or I'm like I want to so badly,

451
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Speaker 2: Like I truly like you know, I have some things

452
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Speaker 2: on my phone. I'll go to the Jesus app if

453
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Speaker 2: i'm you know, not at a red light. But I

454
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Speaker 2: don't take the time to do it. And I know

455
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Speaker 2: that's important.

456
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think for me, I've noticed because

457
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Speaker 1: I go through seasons I'll be honest, where it's like

458
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Speaker 1: I actually take the time to get in the word

459
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Speaker 1: and do my Bible study. I mean it's after the

460
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Speaker 1: kids go though. I mean, there's no part of me

461
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Speaker 1: that's getting up earlier to do this before the kids

462
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Speaker 1: go to school. We love our sleep, or be honest,

463
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Speaker 1: but I've gone through seasons where I've been really good

464
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Speaker 1: in scheduling that nine to nine thirty or nine to ten,

465
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Speaker 1: it ends up usually being nine to ten. That's what

466
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Speaker 1: it is, you know, And I have found you don't

467
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Speaker 1: really really realize it in the moment. But again, when

468
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Speaker 1: you're not doing it, I realize the blow ups are more.

469
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Speaker 3: The stressors are the same. The kids are just as stressful.

470
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Speaker 1: The marriage is just as stressful, but the way I

471
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Speaker 1: react to it is so different. And I'll be like, man,

472
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Speaker 1: what was different, And I'm like, oh, it's been a

473
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Speaker 1: month since I've actually like opened my Bible or you know.

474
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Speaker 1: And so I definitely go through seasons and I recognize

475
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Speaker 1: that that's different, but I don't always do great. And

476
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Speaker 1: it's kind of like people like, you know, with like

477
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Speaker 1: working out, that's not my thing. I'm not like I

478
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Speaker 1: have to work out or I don't feel good.

479
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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I could get to that point, but that's.

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Speaker 1: Kind of how it is for me, with getting in

482
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Speaker 1: the word and doing my Bible study in the morning.

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Speaker 2: That makes sense for you, what is because you have

484
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Speaker 2: you know, the next step out, which is the daily

485
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Speaker 2: it's daily you know, motivation. So it's like, for you,

486
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Speaker 2: what does your day look like? How do you get

487
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Speaker 2: it in with everything that you're doing?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this is so good. I love your point too

489
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Speaker 5: about how it doesn't change anything about your circumstances if

490
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Speaker 5: you get in the word, but it changes your heart

491
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Speaker 5: posture and that that changes the way that you're able

492
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Speaker 5: to go about the circumstances you've been placed in. And

493
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Speaker 5: I do think people sometimes have this false expectation that man,

494
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Speaker 5: if I'm following God, everything's going to work out, and

495
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Speaker 5: that that's not true, that's not even biblical. You're gonna

496
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Speaker 5: face trials, you're gonna go through hard things, but yet

497
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Speaker 5: you have a source of strength to go through it

498
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Speaker 5: with you. You know you, and that that's what changes everything.

499
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Speaker 5: So yeah, it doesn't change your circumis just change your heart,

500
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Speaker 5: changes who you are and how you respond in your circumstances.

501
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Speaker 5: And you know, the next step I'm so excited about

502
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Speaker 5: because hopefully it we'll get people in that daily practice.

503
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Speaker 5: And I even talk about this in the book. It

504
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Speaker 5: doesn't have to be the first thing in the morning.

505
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Speaker 5: I think it's a I think it's a great thing

506
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Speaker 5: if it can be, because it just sets your heart

507
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Speaker 5: and your intention for the day. And for me personally,

508
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Speaker 5: I used to be like, it doesn't have to first

509
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Speaker 5: thing in the morning, and it does not have to be.

510
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Speaker 5: But I do notice when it is, my day is better.

511
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Speaker 5: You know when it is. It just everything is better

512
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Speaker 5: in the day. And that's the thing. Even that's Jesus

513
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Speaker 5: showed us that he would get away in the morning

514
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Speaker 5: on the mountainside with the Father and like, if Jesus

515
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Speaker 5: did it, then we can all benefit from it. But

516
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Speaker 5: you know what, actually it was for me because I

517
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Speaker 5: used to not get up before the kids. I would

518
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Speaker 5: be like, no, I'm sleeping, this is my time. And

519
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Speaker 5: then I had a great friend who asked me one time,

520
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Speaker 5: she was like, what can I be praying for you for?

521
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Speaker 5: Because I had a really big confidence coming up I

522
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Speaker 5: was speaking at I was like, I'm really nervous about this.

523
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Speaker 5: I just can't find the time, you know, to work

524
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Speaker 5: on my sermon, like I want to in the morning's

525
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Speaker 5: so and she said, well, I'm gonna help you wake up.

526
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Speaker 5: She said, every morning at six I'm gonna text you

527
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Speaker 5: get up and get in the word, and I'm holding

528
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Speaker 5: you to it. And I was like six, oh my gosh,

529
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Speaker 5: like that is way too early. And my kids actually

530
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Speaker 5: sleep in pretty good and they're three and one, and

531
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Speaker 5: I'm thankful for that. So I'm like I was gonna sleep,

532
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Speaker 5: but I'm like, okay, now I'm gonna do it. And

533
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Speaker 5: so every morning for three weeks at six am, she

534
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Speaker 5: would text me, get up, get in the word, and

535
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Speaker 5: then she would make if I was like late, like

536
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Speaker 5: six oh five, are you awake? Are you up? Like

537
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Speaker 5: she text me, this is such accountability. And those three

538
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Speaker 5: weeks were so they had such a profound impact on

539
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Speaker 5: my life. Truly. I watched the Bible Recap videos, which

540
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Speaker 5: is the Bible Project, and it like recaps stories of

541
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Speaker 5: the Bible. I ended up watching the entire series from

542
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Speaker 5: Genesis Revelation in those three weeks of just getting up

543
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Speaker 5: at six, because I had so long in the morning

544
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Speaker 5: to learn it. It gave me such a new perspective

545
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Speaker 5: on the Bible on life. I got to preach this

546
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Speaker 5: message after that that ended up impacting a lot of people,

547
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Speaker 5: but before impacted a single person. Impacted me so much,

548
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Speaker 5: and so now I'm like, I want to get up,

549
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 5: like I find great joy and like getting up now

550
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 5: there's still a lot of mornings and I'm like, I'm tired.

551
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 5: I'm gonna sleep in this morning. That's okay, you're human again.

552
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Speaker 5: Like it. It's not like God set the time and

553
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Speaker 5: is disappointed you didn't wake up. But what a blessing

554
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Speaker 5: it is when you do, you know, and get that

555
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Speaker 5: time in. And so I do hope that the next

556
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Speaker 5: step hosts people form that habit. And you know, we

557
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Speaker 5: have so much scripture in the book that we're actually

558
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Speaker 5: going through the Wisdom books, which is so exciting because

559
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Speaker 5: we're going through like Proverbs and Ecclesiastes in different Bible versus.

560
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Speaker 5: You're gonna read a lot. Then it's like my story

561
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Speaker 5: and how that relates to my life. Then some prayer,

562
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Speaker 5: and then I actually even have some worship recommendations in

563
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Speaker 5: the book. So it's really just creating that quiet time

564
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Speaker 5: that you can have with the Lord of that meditation

565
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Speaker 5: that you can have. And so if you've listened to this,

566
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Speaker 5: you've never done that before. This book is kind of

567
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Speaker 5: walking you through what that will look like.

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 1: So besides this one, do you have any other favorite devotionals?

570
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm like, I'm getting yours obviously, but I need

571
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Speaker 1: some new ones, So give me some other.

572
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Speaker 5: Absolutely, I need to you know what the daily devotional

573
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Speaker 5: I do every single day, I don't. I don't even

574
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Speaker 5: know the name of it, which is terrible. I've posted

575
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Speaker 5: a picture of before and I'll have to share it.

576
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Speaker 5: But it's a book that actually that friend gave it

577
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Speaker 5: to me and it has been so good. It's one

578
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Speaker 5: of those books where it's like all of these theologians

579
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Speaker 5: and great people of the faith over the past hundreds

580
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Speaker 5: of years, Like it's their devotions all put together, and

581
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Speaker 5: it is the richest book. I get so much out

582
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Speaker 5: of it has been so powerful, and that is so

583
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Speaker 5: funny that I don't even know the name of it

584
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Speaker 5: because I've never even I just go through the day.

585
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Speaker 5: But I hate that. I'll have to get it for y'all.

586
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Speaker 5: I have posts on Instagram.

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Speaker 2: I'll share I've got two, like I read one at

588
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Speaker 2: night to my son and my daughter, Like they have

589
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Speaker 2: different ones, like one for boy, one for a girl,

590
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Speaker 2: and so I would couldn't even tell you the name

591
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Speaker 2: of that one. I know my calm calm one devotion

592
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 2: for anxiety. I love that one. That's a really good one.

593
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Speaker 5: That is so funny. I'm like, how do I not

594
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Speaker 5: know the name of this book that I actually read

595
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Speaker 5: every day? That's terrible.

596
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Speaker 3: But no, that's okay.

597
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Speaker 2: That's totally normal. What is your favorite thing about being

598
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Speaker 2: a mom in this season? And then what is something

599
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Speaker 2: that you're like, you know, I want to work on

600
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Speaker 2: this a little bit more.

601
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Speaker 5: It's good. Oh my gosh, I'm just so grateful to

602
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Speaker 5: be a mom to my girl, as honey, as three

603
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Speaker 5: and a half and Haven is eighteen months old. They're

604
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Speaker 5: two years apart, and I think my favorite thing right

605
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 5: now is their little friendship beginning to blossom. My scissors

606
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Speaker 5: one of my best friends in the world, all my siblings,

607
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Speaker 5: and I are super close with my sister and I

608
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Speaker 5: like we shared a room growing up. We work in

609
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 5: the same place now. She is just like my go

610
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Speaker 5: to girl, and we're so different, but like love each

611
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Speaker 5: other so much, and I see so much of that

612
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Speaker 5: in Honey and Haven. They're so different even at three

613
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Speaker 5: and one, you can already tell, but the way they

614
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 5: love each other is just so precious. And getting to

615
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 5: help steward their friendship is just so adorable. Seeing them

616
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,239
Speaker 5: laugh at each other is probably my favorite thing right

617
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 5: now about being a mom, because they trying to make

618
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 5: each other laugh and it is just so cute to

619
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Speaker 5: see them in their own little world. So I'm loving that.

620
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Speaker 5: I'm just loving our little family. We're traveling a lot,

621
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Speaker 5: but just to feel at home with each other and

622
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 5: teaching them what that means, you know.

623
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Speaker 2: Like there is home again for you.

624
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Speaker 5: We're in Louisiana, which we love Louisiana, but it's sweet because,

625
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 5: like Honey is like such a homebody, but we travel

626
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 5: with her so much and I'm teaching her like, hey,

627
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 5: home is Louisiana, but it's also where your family is.

628
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 5: And like that's been a fun, just like little gift

629
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Speaker 5: of life to get to do that with them. But yeah, man,

630
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Speaker 5: probably the hardest thing, I guess be a mom right now.

631
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Speaker 5: What I struggle with is just time. You know, I'll

632
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 5: work and I'm a mom, and I know you guys

633
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 5: understand that, and I feel like you're just realizing how

634
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 5: fast the time goes by, you know, And it's hard

635
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Speaker 5: whenever you do work and you go home and like

636
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Speaker 5: that's your time with them. You want to be fully present,

637
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 5: but then you're like so tired because you just work

638
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 5: during the day. And I feel like navigating that has

639
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 5: been something on working on in this season of like

640
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 5: giving them my best, you know and not like my

641
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 5: most tired self, and so working on that. I can

642
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 5: definitely be better at that. But that's a challenge for sure.

643
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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, that's for sure. I was just talking about

644
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 2: my therapists about that because we don't we now efficiently.

645
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 2: We started to have help and then now we don't

646
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 2: have any, and I'm like Okay for the rest of

647
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Speaker 2: this season. So it's gonna be like two months. Like

648
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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna yes, it's I'll be tired because I'm

649
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 2: gonna be kind of multitasking, you know, working and you know,

650
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Speaker 2: being quote unquote stay at home mom, right, And so

651
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 2: I'm like, but I also know that season is so short,

652
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 2: and I know that, you know, I'm gonna start filming

653
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 2: a movie in January. So I'm like, embrace this season

654
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 2: because he's you know, twelve months old, he's little. Like,

655
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 2: it's it's only a short period of time, you know.

656
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 2: And so I think just also giving us like grace, like, yes,

657
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: you might be tired coming home, but it is short

658
00:28:58,320 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 2: and you're still you're still showing up.

659
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: Just yeah, you know, and it's you won't regret it, No, zero,

660
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: you won't regret it. I mean, my kids are so

661
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: much older now, and I look back and I'm like, man, yeah,

662
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: if I had that chance to just I would do it,

663
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: especially knowing now like I would do it. Yeah, So

664
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: I think you'll love.

665
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 2: I already want to go back to like when he was,

666
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 2: you know, just like a baby, you know, six months ago,

667
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 2: because I'm like, I never really rocked him to sleep

668
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 2: because I was so big on like sleep training that

669
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 2: now I'm like, I want to rock him to sleep.

670
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 2: You know, Oh totally.

671
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 5: I know you you definitely learn as you go, and

672
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 5: that is a crazy thing because I think you have

673
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 5: to just be like, Okay, you don't know what you

674
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 5: don't know, You're learning as you go, and there's grace

675
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 5: for the journey. Is the first time you've ever done

676
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 5: this before, you know, But no, it's it's definitely something

677
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 5: Like one of the things I'm working on is I

678
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 5: had a teammate of mine kind of take over my

679
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 5: social media and I've sent her my captions in my post,

680
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 5: so it's me. But I haven't been on social media

681
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 5: for the past week and a half and it's not

682
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 5: a big deal. It's just been a week and a half.

683
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 5: But it's been so good for me because I do feel, like,

684
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 5: like I said, whenever I'm there with them, I want

685
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 5: to be fully present and like the last thing I

686
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 5: want to do is looking at someone else's life when

687
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 5: I'm like, my kids are right in front of me,

688
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 5: you know, which is so hard. I know that sounds

689
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 5: like yeah, duh, like everyone would choose your kid, but

690
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 5: then at the same time, when you're sitting there and

691
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 5: you're tired and it's just so easy to just scroll.

692
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 5: I am so guilty of that all the time, and

693
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 5: so no shame if you're in that, that's just that's

694
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 5: just life. But at the same time, I'm like, you

695
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 5: know what, right now, I need to get rid of

696
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 5: that distraction because I am working, so whenever i'm home, like,

697
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 5: I really do need to be fully present, and for me,

698
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 5: if that means just like removing this from my life

699
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 5: right now, then this just needs to be removed for

700
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 5: right now. And so yeah, I think you have to

701
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 5: just lean into you know, there might be different things

702
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 5: at different times that you can just kind of be

703
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 5: more intentional about. And that's something I'm currently working on,

704
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 5: because it's not that I would intentionally choose scrolling over

705
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 5: paying attention, but you just accidentally do when you're not,

706
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 5: you know, prioritizing it.

707
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

708
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: So in your book you talk about not wanting to

709
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: make plans. I really want to hear about this because

710
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: I'm a big planner and all I love to do

711
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: is make plans. So please tell me more about this.

712
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 5: Okay, So I'm a big planner too. In the sense

713
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 5: of like I like to be over prepared for things

714
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 5: that I step into and still, like, for instance, whenever

715
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 5: I'm speaking, people always say, like, you know, you don't

716
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 5: miss the be and you don't even have notes, And

717
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, because like I've worked on that so

718
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 5: many times. I've I have rehearsed that so many times

719
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 5: in my mind that like, yes, I know it because

720
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 5: I'm way over prepared for this moment, you know what

721
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 5: I mean, which is it's not a bad thing, but

722
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 5: sometimes it can be to my disadvantage. But how much

723
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 5: to overrepare and like want to I guess be in

724
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 5: control of what's going to happen and the outcome and stuff. Well,

725
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 5: since I had kids, it's very humbling because, as you

726
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 5: guys know, you can't plan everything. You're totally out of control,

727
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 5: Like you don't know how the day is going to go.

728
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 5: You don't know when the kid's gonna get into your

729
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 5: infection or whenever your kid's not going to sleep that

730
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 5: night or wake up super early, Like there's so much

731
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 5: out of your control. And so you know, So I

732
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 5: used to have this way of going about preparing for

733
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 5: these messages, and I would be so ready and then

734
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 5: when I had kids, I was like, oh, I don't

735
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 5: have kid to prepare, like, or I'm speaking the next

736
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 5: a and I'm up all night and like there's so

737
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 5: much it's just out of your control. And it really

738
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 5: taught me how to like lean on the spirit. Well, anyways,

739
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,959
Speaker 5: this one particular event I was going to. It was

740
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 5: at Texas A and M. It was in their basketball arena.

741
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 5: There's thousands of college students, and I did not have

742
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 5: the time. I wanted to plan what I was gonna

743
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 5: say or to prepare, and I thought, Okay, well, I'm

744
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 5: just gonna do this older message that I did about identity.

745
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 5: It's really powerful. This is the one I'm gonna go with.

746
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 5: So I get up there and I'm speaking and everything's

747
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 5: going great, and it was like mid analogy, and my

748
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 5: mom brain was just like blah, Like I just totally

749
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 5: forgot what I was gonna say, and I was like,

750
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 5: oh my gosh, I don't even know what I'm gonna

751
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 5: say right now. It was so weird. I've never had

752
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 5: that happen on stage. I've had that happen obviously in life,

753
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 5: because that's mom brain and that happens. I never had

754
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 5: that happen in front of thousands of college students in

755
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,479
Speaker 5: the middle of what I was talking about that was

756
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 5: like a story, and so I just kind of stopped

757
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 5: and I was like, okay, I was like, what am

758
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 5: I gonna say? So I just like quickly, and it's

759
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 5: so cool because my husband's like, it wasn't that much time.

760
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 5: It was maybe thirty seconds, but it felt like forever.

761
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 5: And I was like, God, what do you want me

762
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 5: to say right now? And I ended up stopping and

763
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 5: just asking a question. I just said, is the way

764
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 5: that you're living your life right now actually leading you

765
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 5: to where you want to go? And when the question

766
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 5: came out of my mouth, it was actually a really

767
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 5: powerful question, and it was it was like a shift

768
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 5: in the room all of a sudden. It was like

769
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 5: you could hear a pin drop in an arena. And

770
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 5: I was like, okay, this is a different route than

771
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 5: I was taking, but clearly, God, you have something different

772
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 5: you want to talk about tonight. So then we just

773
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 5: kind of sad on that for a little while and

774
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 5: with this different direction and anyways, after that, the pastor's

775
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 5: wife who was there, was like that was so powerful.

776
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 5: She was like, was that different than the way you

777
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 5: normally do things. I was like, well, yeah, because I

778
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 5: really forgot what I was gonna say. She was like, well,

779
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 5: I don't know what you have planned, but that was

780
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 5: so much better than whatever you could planned. And I thought,

781
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 5: you know, it's actually true. I know what I had planned,

782
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 5: and that was actually better than what I planned. And

783
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 5: it was just this lesson in like, God's plan really

784
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 5: is greater than yours, like it really is, and you

785
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 5: need to learn to lean into that and to trust that.

786
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 5: And when you can be willing to surrender your control

787
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 5: of a situation and let God lead, it will feel messy,

788
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 5: it will feel a little out of control, but it

789
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 5: will be so much more powerful of an outcome. And

790
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 5: she taught me I know this verse, but she taught

791
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,919
Speaker 5: me a profound thing about this versus. There's a verse

792
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 5: that says your word is a lamp unto my feet

793
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 5: and a light into my path. And she showed me

794
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 5: what an oil lamp from the Bible days looked like.

795
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 5: Because I've heard that verse a lot of times, but

796
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 5: I always thought of the lamp being like a big lamp.

797
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 5: I actually more so thought of it like a torch,

798
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 5: where it's like lights up this path, and she said, no,

799
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 5: these lamps were tiny back in the day, So this

800
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 5: lamp would not have lit up the path you're going

801
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 5: to walk. It would have literally just lit up the

802
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,439
Speaker 5: next step you were going to take, which is where

803
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 5: the book title comes from, the next step, because I

804
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 5: think so many times life we want to see the

805
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 5: whole path. We want to know the plan, We want

806
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 5: to know where we're going, where we're going to be

807
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 5: in five years. But that's just not life, that's just

808
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 5: not realistic. And there are things that you can do

809
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,720
Speaker 5: to be confident to take the next step, to prepare

810
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,919
Speaker 5: for the next step. But at the end of the day,

811
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 5: I think so much of life does take faith, you know,

812
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 5: confidence in the things we hope for, assurance and the

813
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 5: things that we cannot see, and leaning into what the

814
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 5: Lord has for that next step, knowing it's going to

815
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 5: be better than the one that you could have even planned.

816
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 5: So when I say don't plan, it's not just like, oh,

817
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 5: be careless, be free, go for it, it'll work out. No.

818
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 5: I think there's wisdom in being smart enough to even

819
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 5: get oil for your lamp. There's a wisdom in having

820
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 5: some sort of a plan to being prepared, but at

821
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 5: the end of the day, it's that the Lord wills,

822
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 5: and what the Lord does, it will be better than

823
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 5: what you could have done in your own strength. And

824
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,720
Speaker 5: I've personally learned that time and time again. Me forgetting

825
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 5: what I was going to say was a small example

826
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 5: of what my life has looked like on a bigger

827
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 5: picture of letting go of control and letting God lead

828
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 5: in my life.

829
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:02,240
Speaker 2: So well said.

830
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 3: It gave me chills.

831
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 2: I know so well, said Sadie. Thank you so much

832
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 2: for coming on. You're just your beautiful soul. Thank you

833
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 2: for everything that you do in your words, and everyone

834
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 2: will get the next step fifty devotions to find your

835
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 2: way forward.

836
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you, Thanks for asking great questions by

837
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 5: see bye. Thank y'all.

838
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:23,439
Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with her.

839
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 3: She's precious.

840
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 2: She's so sweet.

841
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 3: I love her.

842
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: She's just so like I want to be that, like

843
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: smiley and happy all the time.

844
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 2: I know, but also like knowing that, Okay, she had

845
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 2: a freaking panic attack last week, Like she she's human

846
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 2: and she's showing up and everyone she's being authentic. Because

847
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 2: I saw something I was on I was googling something

848
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 2: and something came up. There was like you know how

849
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 2: I don't look at like comments anymore. But something was like, oh,

850
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 2: yes see she's not healed anymore because she said she

851
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: had to go do this. And I'm like, first of all, healing,

852
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 2: like these people that just want to go on someone's

853
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 2: page and say something about someone else or like, no

854
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 2: one has ever claimed to be fully healed, fully perfect

855
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 2: fully like so I was just like and I was

856
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 2: like I kind of laugh because I'm like, oh my gosh,

857
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 2: these people are so ridiculous.

858
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 3: I don't even understand that.

859
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm like, of course, no one's like you

860
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 2: might be far removed from a situation and healthier, but

861
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 2: like and I can be healed from certain things, but

862
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 2: there's still things that are going to come up.

863
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

864
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 2: Anyways, I just was like it just made me laugh

865
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 2: because I'm like, in this day and age, people think

866
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Speaker 2: about it's like a there's perfect, then there's unhealed, and

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Speaker 2: then there's a complete mess.

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Speaker 1: Well and they only expect yeah, they only expect that

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Speaker 1: from people that right are well known, right their lives

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Speaker 1: can be right, I mean.

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Speaker 2: But also it just goes to show you that you know, again,

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Speaker 2: what we see, what we scroll, what we everyone deals

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Speaker 2: with it, and I just it's.

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Speaker 1: It's remembering that because at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: like no, not all of us are going to post

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Speaker 1: all the bad, you know, and so.

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Speaker 2: We just have to like some of us will just

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Speaker 2: post vibrators and other things, you know what I mean exactly.

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Speaker 2: Everything's great. Oh I'm not now to see you later.

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Speaker 3: Bye,