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Speaker 1: John Middlecoff Three and Out Podcast Back at it again

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Speaker 1: Monday night. Uh just got back from a long, long

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Speaker 1: weekend in uh my favorite place in the world, Scottsdale, Arizona.

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Speaker 1: It's just hard to beat. Uh. You know, I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: realize that, you know, if I want to buy a place,

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Speaker 1: And luckily I thought a lot about on the plane

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Speaker 1: right home. Uh, something that I I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's just something that we talked about a lot with quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: but you saw it this weekend with Chris Paul and uh,

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Speaker 1: their kind of cloak and dagger history and just how

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Speaker 1: And then what I thought i'd do is I have

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Speaker 1: But I'm John Middlecoff and my inbox is just full

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Speaker 1: It's cool, I don't get me wrong, but it's hard.

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Speaker 1: I make excuse us. You know I'm make an excuse.

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Speaker 1: But also subscribe to the podcast three and Out podcast

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Speaker 1: on college Feed, subscribe to the podcast. But I wanted

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Speaker 1: to start with Chris Paul another epic joke job uh

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Speaker 1: first round of the playoffs, the Patriots had a successful season.

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Speaker 1: That they really did. But given that the influx of

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Speaker 1: all the talent in the FC. You know, the Chargers

427
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Speaker 1: missed the playoffs last year. I mean, the Raiders acquired

428
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Speaker 1: Davante Adams, Denver got Russell Wilson. Who knows how this

429
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 1: whole Deshaun Watson situation plays out, but if he can play,

430
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 1: I mean, they're gonna be pretty good that you just

431
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Speaker 1: have to think to yourself that I don't know if

432
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Speaker 1: I like the Patriots as much to make the playoffs

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Speaker 1: this year. And in Bill Belichick, I trust, I think

434
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Speaker 1: he's the greatest coach in the history of the league.

435
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Speaker 1: But when you tell me that Joe Judge and Matt

436
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 1: Patricia and just the whole kind of cloak and dagger

437
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 1: thing with the coordinators in general, and I know they

438
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Speaker 1: did that last year with defensive coordinator even though it's

439
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 1: kind of clear that it was like a mixture of

440
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Speaker 1: Steven and Bill what would regardless, like all those guys

441
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Speaker 1: know the offense, but the offense like, I'm sorry. Josh

442
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 1: McDaniels on his worst day would be better than Joe

443
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Speaker 1: Judge Matt Patricia combined on their best day. When it

444
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Speaker 1: comes to offensive football, We're not coaches special teams Joe Judge,

445
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 1: We're not a pencil in our year dialing up a

446
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Speaker 1: blitz Matt Patricia that we're calling offensive place. Think about

447
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,119
Speaker 1: the best offensive coordinators in the league. Andy Reid has

448
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 1: been calling offensive plays for two and a half decades.

449
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan has been talking offense with his father for

450
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Speaker 1: forty years. Forty you know, since he was like two

451
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Speaker 1: years old. And Joe Judge is gonna call offensive place potentially.

452
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Speaker 1: Now if Bill doesn't, maybe you got a chance. But

453
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Speaker 1: I think clearly being the head guy, I don't know

454
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Speaker 1: if he wants to do that. And they're acting really weird,

455
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Speaker 1: and I just got that whole situation red flagged. Right now,

456
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Speaker 1: Let's let's answer some male bad questions at John Middlecoff.

457
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Speaker 1: Is the instagram really easy? Fire in those d M

458
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Speaker 1: s gotta I'm I'm so happy that Chris Paul get us.

459
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Speaker 1: I mean, he got at their asking. God, that makes

460
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: you feel good, really does Kansas Native Chiefs fan. When

461
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 1: we traded away start with Reese, So mail bag, you

462
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 1: guys know the deals slide up in those d m s.

463
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Speaker 1: Get your question answers here on the show. I'm gonna

464
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Speaker 1: try to answer a bunch right now. When we traded

465
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Speaker 1: away Tyreek, I was pretty disappointed when we didn't grab

466
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Speaker 1: a wide receiver in the first round. I was worried.

467
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Speaker 1: Looking back on the trade post draft, I feel much

468
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Speaker 1: better about it. Only time will tell or not at

469
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 1: truly was smart moved to give to trade away Tyreek

470
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Speaker 1: and not resign Tyron? However, do you feel like the

471
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Speaker 1: Chiefs are doing what needs to be done to win

472
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Speaker 1: or do you think they're backed into a corner because

473
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Speaker 1: the massive amount of money it costs to pay Number

474
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Speaker 1: fifteen was I know those guys in Kansas City love

475
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Speaker 1: the Honey Badger like I mean, they legitimate love the

476
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Speaker 1: Honey Badger, And I think one thing. Was it the

477
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Speaker 1: was it the chief? Was it the gay him against

478
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Speaker 1: the Did he get a concussion the Honey Badger against

479
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals in the playoffs or that happened in

480
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,199
Speaker 1: the regular season. I can't remember, but the Honey Badger

481
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 1: got a concussion in one of the games and they

482
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 1: gave up a bunch of points, and you talk to

483
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 1: people in k See it's like, well he lines up everyone.

484
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: Like the guy's a really good player, even though he's

485
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Speaker 1: an older and I think his his arrow right is

486
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 1: probably starting to point down a little bit. Eric Reid's brother.

487
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 1: I think justin Reid. Do they sign from the Texans

488
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 1: du can play, so they at minimum that's a wash.

489
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Speaker 1: If anything, it might be an upgrade given that the

490
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Speaker 1: age and like you said, like feaching and you know

491
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Speaker 1: what they're doing with the offense and getting drafting, uh

492
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Speaker 1: sky moreris. I know they draft in the second round.

493
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Speaker 1: Who whatever wide receiver they drafted. I think the Western

494
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Speaker 1: Michigan guy. Uh Ironically, I think he went to Antonio

495
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Speaker 1: Brown's school and that was kind of his comp like

496
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 1: that style of player. He's gonna be good. And I

497
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Speaker 1: think Patrick Mahomes is really there, you know, most important pe.

498
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Speaker 1: I mean, as as long as you've got him, you've

499
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Speaker 1: got a chance every year. So I I don't think

500
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Speaker 1: he's hindering them at all. And uh, I think I'm

501
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: not right now. I think the Chiefs are gonna be

502
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 1: a playoff team now. They might not win the division.

503
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Speaker 1: But I think in two years, maybe not this year, right,

504
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Speaker 1: maybe they go like ten and seven or eleven and six.

505
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Speaker 1: But I think in a year yet, some of these

506
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Speaker 1: younger guys experienced there in their second year, they'd be

507
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 1: more apt to like win thirteen games. Again. Now, if

508
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Speaker 1: you told me that the Chiefs win twelve games this year,

509
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Speaker 1: I would not discount it, like I'm prepared for it.

510
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Speaker 1: But I just think that division is gonna be really

511
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Speaker 1: really hard, uh a lot. I mean, they've won the

512
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Speaker 1: division whatever six seven straight years, and uh, you know,

513
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Speaker 1: for the first time because I've I've never thought one

514
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Speaker 1: time over that six year, especially since Patrick started, it

515
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,719
Speaker 1: was their division. Now. I mean, I think even they

516
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Speaker 1: tell you, I mean that the talent that has come

517
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Speaker 1: in the division is is the real deal talent Like

518
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 1: this isn't like, you know, pretty good move. It's like

519
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: see Khalil mac last year before we got hurt ce

520
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Speaker 1: Davonte Adams. I mean, these guys Russell Wilson, from Drew

521
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 1: Lock to Russell Wilson, it's pretty big upgrade, it really is.

522
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Speaker 1: Do you think Aaron Rodgers struggles in the playoffs or

523
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: due to cold weather he plays amazing in the regular

524
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 1: season when it's warmer and nicer. I've always said the

525
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: Packers under Rogers and a little bit under far of too.

526
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Speaker 1: It's just the their best player on the team by

527
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Speaker 1: a mile is the quarterback. Who's These are two of

528
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 1: the greatest pastors of all time, and then they play

529
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: their playoff games in negative ten degrees. Think about think

530
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Speaker 1: about the teams that have beaten them the last couple

531
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Speaker 1: of years. The forty Niners just wanted to play a

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Speaker 1: heavyweight fight Tampa Bay physical defense. So like, if your

533
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Speaker 1: team is built like you know, the Indianapolis Colts or

534
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 1: the Mike Martz St. Louis Rams, and I know the

535
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: floor team the last couple of years hasn't been built

536
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: quite like that. But I mean they're quarterbacks throwing to

537
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: sounds a year, and then you get in this situation.

538
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: It's just hard, you know, it's just harder to throw

539
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: and catch the ball. Now, listen, I'm a Rogers defender.

540
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 1: As a player, I did think he something was like

541
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: that game wasn't good enough, that that game just simply

542
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna You can't lose the forty Niners in that game.

543
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 1: It cannot happen, and to me, I do put that

544
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: on him now. I do think they've built their team,

545
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: you know, la Fleur like, they ultimately want to play

546
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: defense and run the football like that is to me,

547
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:24,479
Speaker 1: la Floor is closer to Kyle than nickveigh like. I

548
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: think McVeigh like lives to kind of throw the ball

549
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 1: where Kyle lives to run it. I think Lafleur likes

550
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: running it a lot too, and I think he's convinced

551
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: Rogers and that's why it's taking his career to another

552
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 1: level to do it. The problem is in the playoffs,

553
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: like you know, if it just the game plan doesn't

554
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 1: go perfectly, you just got to rely on Aaron. And

555
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: then again, it's freezing cold. It's hard to catch. I

556
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: catch you on my warning, my warning, Sorry, I can't

557
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: even speak fan. I catch you in the morning on

558
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: my way to work in Colin on the way home.

559
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,959
Speaker 1: I'm a cardiac operating room nurse at the Cleveland Clinic,

560
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 1: and it's tough being a Steelers fan in a sea

561
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: of Browns fans. I know not many people are really

562
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: high on Picket, but I have huge expectations after having

563
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 1: Big Ben as my quarterback ever since I was in

564
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: fourth grade. You've lived a pretty charmed life a young

565
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 1: guy growing up on the Steelers. You've seen a lot

566
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Speaker 1: of winning. I mean, you haven't seen a losing team

567
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: since you were like one. In your opinion, do you

568
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: think the Steelers will get it right at quarterbacks sodent

569
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 1: or later or end up being a quarterback drought some

570
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: like some teams across the league. Well, I said it,

571
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: and listen. I think that Kevin Colbert is or was.

572
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess he's retiring one of the best

573
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: gms in football that they have figured out every position

574
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: skill guys, running backs, defensive linemen, linebackers, dbs. The trade

575
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: he made for menca fantastic. But the only evidence I

576
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: have beside Ben, which has been on the team, like

577
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: you said, since you were in fourth grade and now

578
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: you're you know, have a job in the real world,

579
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: is his draft picks of cores back to the last

580
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: couple of years. Now. They weren't high picks, but they're awful.

581
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: Players like Mason Rudolph and Dobbs are two quarterbacks that

582
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: he evaluated and clearly liked. So this notion that he

583
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: is a good quarterback drafter, I can't be in agreement there,

584
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: and I know Tomlin and Listen spoke really highly Kenny Pickett.

585
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: I think Kenny Picketts a high level guy. I just

586
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: don't like the physical traits. I don't see it when

587
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: you're a poor man's Mac Jones. I'm out. I wasn't

588
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: the biggest mac Jones guy. I would not have taken

589
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Speaker 1: Mac Jones in the first round. And as anyone in

590
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: the NFL who evaluated these guys not on the Steelers

591
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: will tell you, Kenny Pickett wasn't in mac Jones league.

592
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: So I just I don't love it. I I really don't. Now.

593
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: I think your team is so solid that a little

594
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: bit like Ben when he was young before he became

595
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: a star, that you can just operate in function, so

596
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: you might still be able to compete to get to

597
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: eight wins. I got I don't think you're gonna suck,

598
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: But I don't. I don't. I think he missed on

599
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: the quarterback. Am I the only one who thinks Kyler

600
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Speaker 1: Murray played last year's pathetic playoff games safe because he

601
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: knew he was gonna ask for more money and didn't

602
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: want to get hurt? Or is that reaching? Sometimes you

603
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: watch a game and I'll speak to Chris Paul's game

604
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: the other night, and you just go, what is going on?

605
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: Like if I was gambling on this team that's losing,

606
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: Like if I would have had money on the Arizona Cardinals,

607
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: or I would have had money in Game seven on

608
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: the Phoenix Suns, I'd go, I think that Kyler Murray

609
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: or Chris Paul is throwing the game. I would want

610
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: an investigation by the FEDS into what is going on.

611
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: I grew up hearing about Pete Rose, Pete Rose, Pete Rose.

612
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: I'd want to invest the freaking gaition. I'd want answers.

613
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: So listen that game. The Rams were better, right, The

614
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: Rams were the Super Bowl champs, So the Cardinals should

615
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: not have won that game. The Rams should beat them.

616
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: If they played ten times, the RAM should win, especially

617
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: in a big game price seven, seven or eight. But

618
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: to have that level of performance, UH is really weird.

619
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: I don't know the guy. I don't have any explanation.

620
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: I think we've had seen evidence now. He wears down

621
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: little guys wear down. So yeah, I just if I

622
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: was a Cardinal fan, I'd want an explanation if I

623
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: had gambled on that game. I'd want an explanation. But

624
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: here's what I know. You can't have that game, Like

625
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: that game can't happen. And then you're like, yeah, I

626
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: oneredy million dollars, Like uh what that's that's not how

627
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: it goes like you know, you you don't get to like, uh,

628
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: get grounded, you know, get suspended from high school and

629
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: then your sixteenth birthday and be like you, I'm time

630
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: for a car. I'm ready, mom, Dad, buy me a car. Right,

631
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: you're getting a fight with your wife, it's probably not

632
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: the time to ask, you know. It's like, honey, I'm

633
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a guy's weekend, play some golf. I'll

634
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: be out of town, like be they might blow up

635
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: in your face. Right, you lay that egg on that stage.

636
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Speaker 1: You can't ask for a hundred fifty million dollars and

637
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Speaker 1: expect to get it. Means you just not not when

638
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: they don't need to pay you. Like, so I just yeah,

639
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Speaker 1: I'm a I'm I'm from Fresno And know you worked

640
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: for Freso State at the time. Were you working for Fresno?

641
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: Who was the head coach? Also, if Mark Davis has

642
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: to sell the team, are there rumblings on who would

643
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: want to buy the team as a rated fan, I'm

644
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: hoping for a guy that loves football. I was there

645
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: with coach Pat Hill. It was awesome. It was I

646
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: graduated Cal PAULI went to work at Fresno State. Was

647
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: one of the two of the funnier years of my life.

648
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: It was. It was really fun and I mean it

649
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: changed my life forever. Led to me get in the

650
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: job of the Eagles, you know, decade later podcasting with

651
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,719
Speaker 1: coward Um. I am a full time podcaster. So it's

652
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: without that, I'd never be here. Uh. I love for

653
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: I got family lives in Frosdo. I'm I'm a fresident

654
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: State fan rooting for j Caner at the quarterback right now,

655
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: like him too. I would say, uh, if the Raiders,

656
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: if that story is kind of quieted down, but if

657
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: Mark Davis had ever been if he ever gets forced

658
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: to sell, the amount of people that would line up

659
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: to buy the Vegas Raiders would be fucking around the corner.

660
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: I mean, they're every billionaire in uh shouting distance of

661
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: this country would have their uh have their financial advisors,

662
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: you know, crafting up some agreements and putting together some

663
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: money and doing what they had to do to get

664
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Speaker 1: a piece of that pie. Because the stadium is awesome.

665
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: There is no state income tax, it would be it

666
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: has a history as a franchise in terms of the colors,

667
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: you can kind of do a rebrand a little bit

668
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Speaker 1: as a new owner. I say it all the time,

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00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: you know, and listen. I I didn't live obviously lived

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Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, and I only I've only been to Washington,

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Speaker 1: d C. One time in my life. My my college

672
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 1: roommate Steve Mayat, who actually still lives there. I went

673
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Speaker 1: out when I my first year in Philadelphia. I went

674
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 1: from fourth to July in d C. And I just

675
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 1: this would have been, you know, two thousand ten, and

676
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: I just remember thinking, and he was he was a

677
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: lot to go to law school and maybe his wife

678
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: went to law school. Steve went to business school, but

679
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: he lives out there those business construction business and uh.

680
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: And we we went out all day and it was

681
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 1: just it was awesome. I mean, I just remember feeling

682
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 1: like the power of the place, like this is a

683
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,959
Speaker 1: it's a pretty cool place. I don't think it would

684
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: even be close in terms of the interest of Vegas

685
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: first Washington d C. I think people would want the

686
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 1: Raiders more than the football team, Commanders, whatever, whatever the

687
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: hell they're called. I just I think about that. They

688
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: don't even have a name. I guess they do, but

689
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: like I don't take their names seriously. What are your

690
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: thoughts on shows undisputed with Skip and Shannon? Also, what

691
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: do you feel like makes your pod unique? I mean,

692
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: is this my future agent? I mean what, I don't know.

693
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't. Clearly they have an audience.

694
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: I I don't. I don't watch, but I don't really

695
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: they're they're not for me. I mean that's just that

696
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,760
Speaker 1: that's is content not made for yours truly. Now clearly

697
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: some people are I find it boring. Um, it doesn't

698
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: do anything for me, So I I that's that's what

699
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: my take would be. You know, first take actually today

700
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,240
Speaker 1: of Pat Beverley was pretty entertaining. My uncle actually send

701
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: me a text because he was watching it and he's like,

702
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: you know, Mike Greenberg is Greenberg is doing a hell

703
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: of a job and Greeny get up? Is that Greeny

704
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: is a really really good host? Like to me, my

705
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: issue with Skips, I just don't believe everything he says.

706
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: It's all just fake, like I would say what makes

707
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: my pod unique? Because I just say what I think?

708
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: This isn't I'm not like, what do you want to

709
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 1: do today? Then will get some social hits like that's

710
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: not my I'm not I'm not doing it for that,

711
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: like that's not me. I I'll go into a different

712
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: business before I do crap like I do not care.

713
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do stuff that I think people will

714
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: like and if they like it, great, If they don't,

715
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: they don't have to listen, you know. And I think

716
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: that those shows are scripted towards like algorithms, you know,

717
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 1: And I'm not doing an algorithmic show. I'm just doing

718
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: whatever i'm fired up on. That's what I will talk about.

719
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: And I would say, so far, we're having some success.

720
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Speaker 1: So like I just I don't try to talk. I mean,

721
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: obviously there are certain stories you're not gonna avoid, like

722
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: Tom Brady retires, like you're talking about that. But I

723
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: do think, you know, they just play the same hits

724
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,879
Speaker 1: over and over, like God damn, no one cares about

725
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: Kyrie riving anymore. So I'm talking about it, but clearly

726
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: in their algorithmic of the two D people that watch

727
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: their show on a daily basis like it, I don't know,

728
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: it's again not for me, It's I I can't like

729
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: I enjoy talking about Jerry Jones. I'll talk about the

730
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: Cowboys and I understand their power. Like I try to

731
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:57,760
Speaker 1: mix in some stuff about the Jets and the Giants.

732
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: They have a lot of fans. But I'm not gonna

733
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: go in my way every single week to do a

734
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: Cowboys segment. Now, when stuff happens with the Cowboys, like,

735
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: I'm not going to avoid it because I do find

736
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: them interesting. But I think shows like that there's a reason,

737
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: like the Cowboys get a lot of talk. Why no

738
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: different the Yankees, No different Lakers? They have the most fans,

739
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 1: So it could I hell, could I have more podcast

740
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: downloads if I made sure to talk about the Cowboys

741
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: every single pot. Maybe, But I'd also say would be disingenuous.

742
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: I would say one thing that I think everyone listens

743
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: to the show. I would agree with that. You know,

744
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: I'm I've been pretty consistent, you know. I just give

745
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: my takes, and I think if you listen and you go, yeah,

746
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: he actually believes that. And I'm not afraid to say

747
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: I was wrong. I've admitted I was wrong on Lamar Jackson.

748
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: I have not admitted I was wrong with Kyler Murray

749
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 1: because I was right right. I did not I will

750
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: not admit I was wrong on James Harden because I

751
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: was right. There are certain things, and like I think

752
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: Colin is really good on this and it's what makes

753
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: Colin probably the best in the business. He'll have a

754
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: take and sometimes he's out of left field, Like I

755
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 1: thought as Baker Mayfield take was kind of crazy. I

756
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: thought Baker Mayfield was gonna be really good. Colin's proven right.

757
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 1: Colin nailed that one, you know, I think is Aaron

758
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,439
Speaker 1: Rodgers take. Like I heard some things about Davonte leaving.

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00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: You're like, well, I mean Colin hasn't been wrong on

760
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: everything with Aaron you know doesn't then I'd say you

761
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: got the John wall and the and the Russell Westbrook

762
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 1: one pretty right too. But when he is wrong, he'll pivot.

763
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: And if if I'm wrong on something like if Cliff

764
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: Kingsbury and Kyler Murray win a Super Bowl next year

765
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: in Glendale, Arizona, I will wear that on the chin, right.

766
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 1: And I think sometimes that some of these shows they're

767
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: like won't pivot off their take. I'm also not a journalist.

768
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,760
Speaker 1: I think a lot of these guys like ultimately Skip

769
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: Bayliss and stephen A, and I like. I like stephen A,

770
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 1: but no, I don't watch his content, but I do

771
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: enjoy Steven. These guys started his newspaper writers like at

772
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Speaker 1: their core and at their heart, you can say they're

773
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: sold out their journalist. I am not even close to

774
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Speaker 1: a journalist. I'm an anti journalist, and I'd say so.

775
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: I we just don't have as much in common about

776
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: the way I think we view the world. I'm doing

777
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: this for business purposes, you know, and you know I

778
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: love sports, but I'm it's not really the same a theory.

779
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 1: What do you think Jimmy G. What do you think

780
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 1: San fran wanted to trade Jimmy G? He got hurt,

781
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: trade value plummeted this whole unimpressed with Lance, would it

782
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: not be trying to reinflate Jimmy's value as much as possible. Well,

783
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 1: Jimmy got hurt during the season. You know, Jimmy played

784
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: the playoff games with a messed up shoulder and a

785
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: messed up thumb, and he hurt his thumb because his

786
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: shoulder was hurt and in the Titans game, he tried

787
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: to brace his fall because he didn't want to hurt

788
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: his shoulder more so he heard his thumb. Like Jimmy

789
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: was injured when the season ended. So I this notion that,

790
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,280
Speaker 1: like Jimmy g surgery came out of nowhere. It's like, hey, guys,

791
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: and I like John, I mean, I'm I'm obviously want

792
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 1: the Fortys to thrive. It's good for my other podcast

793
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: and the business of it. But like I I I

794
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: don't necessarily agree that it completely came out of left field.

795
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: He told him might get surgery. He was injured, so

796
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: him getting surgery, it wasn't like if all the and

797
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Speaker 1: you know, I would say, like Patrick Mahomes had surgery, Like, yeah,

798
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: I didn't see that coming. Like Jimmy Garoppol was literally hurt.

799
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: He missed games last season because of injuries. He was

800
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: on the injury report. We didn't know if he was

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00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: gonna start in the playoff games. So I I think

802
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: it's just I don't know. I think Jimmy's legitimately hurt

803
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 1: or I mean, what was he got surgery? The Trey

804
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: Lance stuff like O t s are starting and he's

805
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: gonna be on the practice field. It's time to piss

806
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: or get off the pot. It's time to show your

807
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: can play. Now's the time. I don't care what happened

808
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: last year. Time is now. You're the starter. O t

809
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: A S go in there in press Kyle making a

810
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: no brainer decision. You've been in the round for a year,

811
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Speaker 1: you know the playbook, you got all the physical tools. Um,

812
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: time is now We're about to find out. Do you

813
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 1: think the Chicago Bears made the right decision to take

814
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: two defensive players with our first two picks in the draft? Also,

815
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on Matt ever flews Uh? I

816
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 1: don't know that much about that. You took two dbs.

817
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: I think you took a owner and a safety. I

818
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: texted someone after the draft because I was like, God,

819
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: what are they gonna do that their offensive line? Stax

820
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: didn't taken offensive He's like, well, both those two guys

821
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: are really good players. So I know the people in

822
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,919
Speaker 1: the league that I knew that like those two guys.

823
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: So they're good players. But when I thought like, what

824
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: did Chicago Bears need? It was not like dbs not

825
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 1: saying that. I mean every team needs dbs. Do you

826
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: know what they need someone to block for their star

827
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: young quarterback, someone to catch passes from their star young quarterback.

828
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: So he was running for his life last year. I

829
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: don't see why he won't be running for his life

830
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: again this year. So I I would imagine that, Uh

831
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Speaker 1: e fluce, I listen my philosophical belief and I could

832
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: be wrong because I would take Mike Vrabel. So there

833
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: are outliers to this philosophy. Philosophy I would only hire

834
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: offensive coaches, especially if I had young offensive quarterback or

835
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: young quarterbacks that I had drafted. Now, I get that

836
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: im Pols didn't draft this guy, but this is an

837
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: offensive league and the best coaches. Look at the final

838
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 1: four last year and Sean McVeigh, Andy Reid and uh

839
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: kind of sad, I swort. Now, I've I've been a

840
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 1: long weekend. I can't even think of the Bengals coach

841
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: now off the top of my head. That's that's no

842
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: disrespect to him. He's a good young coach. We think

843
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 1: did get his team the Super Bowl. I'll be completely honest,

844
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: if you like said, here's ten thousand dollars. What is

845
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: his name as of right now? Again, long weekend, I

846
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: have no clue what his name is, but he's an

847
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: offensive coach quarterback Nebraska. I'm not even gonna look it

848
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: up because I think it's funnier. But my point is

849
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: that I would hire offensive guys, and I think they're

850
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: the most inclined to help your quarterback. I don't know

851
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: if it's gonna work. I'm rooting for him, but I

852
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: like what Denver did. They went with Hackett, an offensive

853
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: guy who's going to call the offensive place. So when

854
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: they trade for Russell Wilson, who their franchise success is

855
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: gonna hinge on his success. The head coach, who is

856
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: also the play caller, controls the situation, so I might

857
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 1: take on uberfluences. I don't know much about him. Uh

858
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: Josh M. Daniels liked to remember he was hired before.

859
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: I just I would not have hired that guy. Not

860
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 1: because he's not a good football coach, but I just

861
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: I like having offensive guys. I get it. Chicago Bears

862
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:26,720
Speaker 1: defense Bears. It's like two twenty two. You know, Walter

863
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: Payton and and uh Singletary in the refrigerator, Perry r

864
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: I p are not walking through that door. Play offense

865
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 1: score some points. You know, the Packers who beat your

866
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: ass all the time. Offensive franchise the Minnesota Vikings, who

867
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: have been a lot better than you like, they've had

868
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 1: pretty good offenses lately. He's time to figure that out.

869
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: You have justin fields and is it gonna be good?

870
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: I hope so. I was a fan of him coming out,

871
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: but sometimes young quarterbacks that they are, their success is

872
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: predicated on other peel other people who's blocking for him,

873
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: obviously their weapons around him. Who's the play caller. I'm

874
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: from Hartford County, Maryland, big fan of the show and

875
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: listening for years. I like your takes and being awesome

876
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: and everything. I'm a huge Ravens fan and have a question,

877
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: with all the offseason moves we've done, for example signing

878
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 1: Marcus Williams, Morgan Moses and doing very well in the draft,

879
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: do you think the Ravens are contenders? I know we

880
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: lost Hollywood Brown, but I think without him, targets for

881
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: targets for Lamar are gonna be distributed better because I

882
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: felt like Lamar was forcing him the ball. I think

883
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: Guy's gonna be really good. I mean, on paper, your

884
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: team is really really good. On paper, I would pick

885
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: you to win the division. I'm not saying the Bengals

886
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: are a fluke, but you know, I don't view them

887
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 1: quite as a division champ though. I mean they might

888
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: have the better quarterback than you. I don't. I get

889
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: Bengals fan gets mad like will you whenever you bring

890
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: up Mahomes and and Alan and Herbert, you never mentioned him.

891
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 1: You gotta mention him with Lamar. He's a stud. Uh.

892
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: But your team top to bottom is better. Your team

893
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: top to bottom is better. Have no clue the guy's name,

894
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:13,439
Speaker 1: I'm absolutely none. I'm sorry, Free Bengal fans. Uh mail

895
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,240
Speaker 1: bad question. As a Browns fan, I know I'm biased,

896
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,479
Speaker 1: but I'm getting too carried away with the optimism way

897
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: I see this. The roster and Kevin Stefanski were an

898
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: eight to eleven win team with Baker Mayfield, who, let's

899
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 1: be honest, has been shown to have no physical traits.

900
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 1: He's got a decent arm. He's got a decent arm. Short,

901
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 1: can't run though, and questionable. You know, teammates aren't in

902
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: love with them. Now you you take some You take

903
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: the same situation and just pop in one of the

904
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 1: most talented quarterbacks in the league. Uh, and a go

905
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: to head to head with Mahomes and the Herbert's. I

906
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 1: know the division is tough, though I really think they're

907
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: the best team in the North permitting a small no suspension.

908
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: That's the problem I saw today that Goodell, They've been

909
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: waiting for everything happen um to like talk to They

910
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: have not talked to Deshaun Watson. So they're gonna talk

911
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: to Deshaun Watson last. You know, I mean ten games,

912
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: eight games, four games. I got no clue. You know,

913
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: I'd be a complete guessing game if Deshaun Watson could

914
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: play the entire season. Not he did miss all the year, right,

915
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: he did not play a football game like Iron Sharpen's Iron.

916
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: One of Colin's greatest takes was the Gruden thing, and

917
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: that was one where I was wrong. I thought John

918
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 1: Gruden was going to be successful and his take, which

919
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna use this theory moving forward. You can't leave

920
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: a high end industry for a long period of time

921
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: and then come back and expect to be successful. Now,

922
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: I think as a player it's a little different. Right,

923
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: he didn't miss ten years. He didn't miss one season

924
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 1: in the prime of his career, and not for injury.

925
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: He was fully healthy, just on the sideline, and I

926
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,240
Speaker 1: know he could work out and throw balls, it ain't

927
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: the same. So I do think it's fair to say

928
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 1: that there's gonna be a process for him to like reacclimate.

929
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: So if he were, let's just pick a game. Let's

930
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: say he suspended six games, so then he'll have missed

931
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: seventeen games plus another six, so he'll have missed twenty

932
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: three straight NFL games. And like I said, baseball, basketball,

933
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,399
Speaker 1: there are an unlimited amount of games. So what if

934
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: it takes him a month to kind of get his

935
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: sea legs under him. I I think this year, not

936
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: saying it's a wash, but I have unknown on the Browns.

937
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,479
Speaker 1: I do think in the future years, you guys should

938
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,919
Speaker 1: be pretty good, but I do think this year could

939
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: be a little weird depending on how long his suspension is.

940
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 1: And even if he's not suspension, you could start slow.

941
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 1: I'm from Alabama, so I don't really have an NFL team.

942
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: I just like certain teams because of players, like I

943
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: love the Colts because of Manning. I was the same.

944
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: I don't get what the strategy is getting older from

945
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: uh because I love the Colts because of Manning. I

946
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,919
Speaker 1: don't get what their strategy is, getting older, former elite

947
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that make it to the wild card and get bounced,

948
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: making their draft picks lower. They have a good history

949
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: and shouldn't be desperate to just make the playoffs. Why

950
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: do you think they didn't just tank to try to

951
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,919
Speaker 1: get an elite college quarterback. Well, there wasn't one this year,

952
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: and they obviously didn't have their first round pick. They

953
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: traded it to, you know, the Eagles, so they were

954
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: incentivized to win and try to make the playoffs. I

955
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,720
Speaker 1: do think once you go through Manning, you realize winning

956
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 1: ten eleven games, even getting bounced in the first round

957
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: of the playoffs is much better than the alternative sucking.

958
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: In the NFL, being competitive is a very very lucrative thing.

959
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: Like the Minnesota Vikings under Mike Zimmer they like five

960
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 1: years where they were really good. They won like a

961
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: total of what one playoff game to playoff games maybe,

962
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 1: but like maybe three. I guess the one year they

963
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: made the the year they lost the Folds and then

964
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 1: they won the Digs catch they want a couple of

965
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,919
Speaker 1: playoff games and Cousins beat Drew Brees the one year,

966
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,919
Speaker 1: but like they never they got to one championship game

967
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: and they got blown out. Uh, the year after they breeze,

968
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: they've lost the Niners. But you would say, if you're

969
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: a Vikings fan, like that was a lot better than

970
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: being the Jags, a lot better than being you know,

971
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: some of these crappy teams. Right, You think the Commanders

972
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: would it like that. You think the Raiders, who have

973
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:19,479
Speaker 1: made the playoffs twice in twenty years, would have signed

974
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: up for making the playoffs every year. So I think

975
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: part of it is, like making the playoffs every year

976
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: is a big deal. And in football, like we talked

977
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: about earlier in the show, like playoff football, playoffs, in

978
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: the NBA, playoff baseball. That's what it's all about. That

979
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: is the entire point of the sport, the entire point

980
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: of the draft, the entire point of free agency, the

981
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: entire point of hiring coordinators and position coaches is to

982
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: have the best team possible and win like that. That

983
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: is the goal of this whole thing. And the more

984
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: you win, the more money you make. So I would

985
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 1: say that I think the Colts I respect what they do.

986
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: I guess. I guess would be my ultimate take. Saints

987
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: fan here, I know you're viewing the Saints is up

988
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: coming season. But what are your thoughts on the Bengals.

989
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: I see everyone picking them to win their division and

990
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: make the playoffs like it's a lock. After last year.

991
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: I just feel like they got lightning in a bottle

992
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: and think they make a step back take a step

993
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 1: back this season. I know they have some improvements to

994
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: the offensive line this offseason, but the a f C

995
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: is loaded, and while the Brown Steelers are a crapshoot

996
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: with Shaun Watson not being resolved in Mitch a rookie

997
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: quarterback situation, I do think the healthy Ravens team could

998
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 1: give them a good fight for the division. What are

999
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 1: your thoughts? Yeah, I think one thing with the Bengals.

1000
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: If I was a Bengals fan, do you know what,

1001
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: I'd say, We got Joe fucking Burrow and as long

1002
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 1: as he's healthy, which you know he's he got hurt.

1003
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,439
Speaker 1: You know, one year he didn't make it. Now they've

1004
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: improved the offensive line, but last year, like he that's

1005
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: not sustainable, him running making plays out of his you

1006
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 1: know what, because he's his offensive line is terrible. Like,

1007
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: that's not a healthy way to play when you're young.

1008
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: You can pull it off one year, but for them

1009
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: to sustain success, they're gonna have to be able to

1010
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:01,439
Speaker 1: block for him. But he's elite. I mean he's he's

1011
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: a special cat man. And Higgins is a baller, Jamar

1012
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: Chase is a star uh mixing stud I mean they

1013
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,959
Speaker 1: got they got some dudes. Now defensively, are they good enough?

1014
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 1: We're gonna find out. All. Here's the other thing. It's

1015
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 1: easy when you get to kind of fly under the

1016
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,919
Speaker 1: radar or when you kind of get to be the attacker. Hell,

1017
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 1: I get to be the attacker right now. I'm not

1018
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: Coward or my podcast isn't you know, Portnoy or whatever.

1019
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 1: I'm just doing well. But it's not like considered like

1020
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 1: super famous or whatever. It's just I can say whatever

1021
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,439
Speaker 1: I want. It does not matter. It is a little

1022
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: bit different when you're the top of the mountain. Like

1023
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: Coward can't just say whatever he wants, right, you know,

1024
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: he's he's once everyone starts good, and think how many

1025
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:51,439
Speaker 1: people are gunning for you when you're calling right, when

1026
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: you're Rogan, when you're Portnoy, everyone's gunning for you. Well,

1027
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: the Bengals, no one even thought twice about them last year.

1028
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,040
Speaker 1: Now I'm not saying I'm putting them on the a

1029
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: stall of the Chiefs or the Rams, but they are

1030
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: to be taken various the opponents like, hell, you just

1031
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: play a random team like you're just playing like the Lions.

1032
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: You're playing the Vikings like they're coming for you. You're

1033
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: viewed as a super Bowl level team just won the

1034
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: a f C. Like you kind of got a target

1035
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: on your back. And it's I think it's it's always

1036
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: much easier to operate when you're the guy, when you're

1037
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 1: chasing the person with the target on their back. In

1038
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,720
Speaker 1: any business, in any industry, it's always easier to chase.

1039
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: Once you got the target on your back and everyone's

1040
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: coming for you, it's just more difficult. It's it's it's

1041
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: hard to sustain success in anything in life, so and

1042
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: especially young teams. But I would say, Joe Burrow, now

1043
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: we have some evidence ninet l s U team, that

1044
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 1: team last year of the Bengals, Like, I'm not in

1045
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 1: the business of betting against that kid. I guess he's

1046
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: actually a sneaky older player than uh you realize. But

1047
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: I just I'm a believer, you know, and I might

1048
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: not know your head coaches names with the Bengals still

1049
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: have absolutely no clue. Games Bill, I'm not making this up.

1050
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: I don't know his name, but I do believe in

1051
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: your quarterback. And his name is Joe Burrow, and I'm

1052
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 1: I think he's got a chance to be, uh one

1053
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 1: of the all time grades. Anytime you got one of

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Speaker 1: the all time greats, he could elevate the franchise. And

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Speaker 1: that's what the Bengals needed. That was the only way

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Speaker 1: they were going to make it. The franchise had to

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Speaker 1: be elevated. They were a joke, and he did that.

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Speaker 1: I mean the second year, starting with one of the

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Speaker 1: worst offensive lines in football, they were winning in the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. They weren't they just make it the Super Bowl. Remember,

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Speaker 1: like Marino was second year with the Dolphins, made of

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and they lost. Like the Niners killed him, right.

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Speaker 1: Burrow was leading in the Super Bowl. So this no

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Speaker 1: like Stafford McVeigh their Super Bowl champions. They were losing

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Speaker 1: in that game like that was. They were losing to

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Speaker 1: the Bengals. So it's wasn't that flukey um, you know?

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Speaker 1: I mean they beat the Chiefs. They got after the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs man, they got after Ryan Tannehill. I mean that

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Speaker 1: they even that Raider game, the final score was closed.

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Speaker 1: They kicked the Raiders ass. They had a really good

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Speaker 1: season and the player honestly, their playoffs, they were good

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Mean that Titans game, there's a reason,

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Speaker 1: you know, John Robinson was crying at the combine. It's like,

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Speaker 1: you know, we were in one seed and we kind

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Speaker 1: of got her ass. Kicked three three picks. The Bengals

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Speaker 1: took it to him. It was one of the worst

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Speaker 1: halves of football. Honestly, in like the rest of his career,

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Speaker 1: that might be one of the worst halves of football.

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Speaker 1: Ma Homes ever plays in a game that really matters.

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Speaker 1: I mean he might have random games that in the

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Speaker 1: regular season, but you'd be hard pressed to watch the

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Speaker 1: Homes in the playoffs. I mean, he just outdueled Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen the previous week, or just I mean outdueled. You know,

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Speaker 1: I put that a little on Sean McDermott, but he

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Speaker 1: went told it like they were. They looked like two

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Speaker 1: superhuman people. And then to have that second half and

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Speaker 1: even the first half, remember they were up, had twenty

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Speaker 1: one points, You're like, God, Mahomes looks incredible. This is

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Speaker 1: the guy that Andy and Beach banged their whole careers on.

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Speaker 1: I would do so. You gotta get the Bengals some credit.

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Speaker 1: You know you gotta get the Bengal some credit. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate everyone listen to show uh. Share it with your friends,

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Speaker 1: Share it with your enemies. Have a good week of golf.

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Speaker 1: Podcast out on Wednesday with my guy Sobel. I can't wait.

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Speaker 1: I love the PG Championship this week Tiger's back. Hudios.

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Speaker 1: The volume