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Speaker 1: Welcome to jag zon this morning on Penani Stevens, Brian section,

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Speaker 1: John Osier with me. We also have a special guest

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Speaker 1: host will introduce in a moment. But Jaguar's riding high

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Speaker 1: on that week one win, but also turning the page

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Speaker 1: as we start to look towards Cincinnati this weekend. It's

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Speaker 1: still of some of the big things here today on

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Speaker 1: jag z Am, starting off with Trader James as a

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Speaker 1: big trade went down on Monday evening, becoming official on Tuesday. Brian,

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Speaker 1: but we talked about that crowded running back room, not

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Speaker 1: as crowded now, thanks by we traded up to Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: for a couple of draft picks to come back.

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Speaker 2: We surprised by the move, No, I think it made

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Speaker 2: a lot of sense. And Ryan O'Halleran woke this in

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Speaker 2: the column, so I got to give him credit. Back

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Speaker 2: in mid August, Listen, it was too much value for

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Speaker 2: the Jaguars to pass on, to be able to take

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Speaker 2: a running back for whom there were not going to

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Speaker 2: be a substantial amount of carries, and to move him

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Speaker 2: for a fifth and sixth round pick next year. Now

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Speaker 2: they have thirteen picks. They have three in the third,

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Speaker 2: they've got two in the fourth, they've got two in

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Speaker 2: the fifth, they've got four in the seventh. That's great

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Speaker 2: value and that's what they were looking for overall. Remember

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Speaker 2: Travis etn is playing on the fifth year option and

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Speaker 2: is likely, no matter how good a year he has

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Speaker 2: this year, to be playing somewhere else because the Jaguars

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Speaker 2: used draft choices on ba shal Touton and Lequin Allen Junior.

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Speaker 2: The future here is set on those two guys. So

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Speaker 2: to be able to take Tank Bigsby and flip him

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Speaker 2: into two picks and put him in a situation where

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Speaker 2: he'll be happy in Philadelphia where they run the ball

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Speaker 2: a lot makes a lot of sense, James.

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Speaker 1: That's und certainly not afraid to make any trades and

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Speaker 1: now stacking up those picks. So we'll have to see

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Speaker 1: what that turns into. Big thing Number two today is

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Speaker 1: going to be tail of the taste. Obviously, take the

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Speaker 1: first half of the week to look back at that

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Speaker 1: game against the Panthers and while Brian Thomas Senior did

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Speaker 1: have a touchdown a Russian touchdown, he only had one

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Speaker 1: reception and he wasn't overly involved. Coach Coon talked a

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Speaker 1: little bit about some of the miscommunications between Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 3: I think we try to get him a touch on

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Speaker 3: the first or second drive of the game, first play

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Speaker 3: of the game, right, we don't convert it, throw him

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Speaker 3: a screen low doesn't come down with it. And then

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Speaker 3: the flow of the game, we missed him on an

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Speaker 3: inbreaker which he had a lot of room to run,

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Speaker 3: missed him on a corner route where he was fairly open,

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Speaker 3: and then missed you know, had the one on the

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Speaker 3: out of bounds. So you're talking about that's five catches

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Speaker 3: right there. That gets him into the flow of it.

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Speaker 3: It's just the way the game went, and you know,

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Speaker 3: we got to details of route running, timing, depth, the

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Speaker 3: quarterback protection, everything goes into it. So I fully anticipate

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Speaker 3: him being able to get going John.

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Speaker 1: We's also success from the running backs in this game,

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Speaker 1: and even Trevor Lawrence running around a little bit. Brian

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Speaker 1: Thomas Enior had a rushing touchdown. But how do they

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Speaker 1: get more involved? Is it just getting on the same

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Speaker 1: page again with Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is sort of a first world problem.

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Speaker 5: You know, he won twenty six to ten, and I

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Speaker 5: thought Trevor in the first half had a lot of

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Speaker 5: good throws and a lot of good reads throwing the

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Speaker 5: ball downfield, and you got Jammy Brown involved. They tried

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Speaker 5: to get BTJ involved in the first play. I think

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Speaker 5: he has six or seven targets. I think there. I

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Speaker 5: think they'll continue to try to get everybody involved early.

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Speaker 4: And then after that.

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Speaker 5: I really think the reality of this offense is gonna

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Speaker 5: be You've got Travis Hunter, who's pretty good. You've got

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Speaker 5: Yammi Brown it's pretty good. You've got running backs pretty good,

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Speaker 5: You've got printing strange. I don't know that there's going

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Speaker 5: to be a huge serge or a huge need of

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Speaker 5: We've got to target Brian Thomas Junior seven or eight

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Speaker 5: think it's a problem to take care of itself. He's

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Speaker 5: have his games. But it's not gonna be last year

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Speaker 5: where mac Jones was feeding him twelve times a game.

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Speaker 5: That's not good and it's not necessary in this offense.

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Speaker 1: We'll have to see how things evolve as the season

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Speaker 1: goes along. But good point, he did get a lot

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Speaker 1: So now we'll do our final big thing today, which

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Speaker 1: Next opponent, it's going to be the Bengals. Now we're

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Speaker 1: gonna bring in our extra host today, marked up their

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Speaker 1: former linebackers fast to the Dagwars, but also a former

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Speaker 1: friends assistant with the Cincinnati Bengals. So we talked a

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Speaker 1: little bit about the defense pre show. We talked they

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Speaker 1: played great against the Panthers. Different story when you take

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Speaker 1: on the Bengals. A lot of targets there that are

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Speaker 1: of a different colgo. When we talked about Jamar Hayes

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Speaker 6: Well, I'll tell you what. Thank you guy for letting

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Speaker 6: me be with you. They're loaded in terms of weapons.

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Speaker 6: I mean, shoot, when you look at what Jamar Chase

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Speaker 6: has meant to their offense, T Higgins, Mike Yoseki, they

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Speaker 6: added Noah Fant at tight end. The fact too that

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Speaker 6: in the running game they've had Chase Brown now active

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Speaker 6: in terms of both a runner and a receiver. So

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Speaker 6: they've got weapons across the board and speed and they're

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Speaker 6: gonna distribute that. In this past game again, their opening

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Speaker 6: meet their standard. So we're gonna get their best shot

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Speaker 6: in terms of what Joe burrowin the offense and company

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Speaker 6: are gonna try to present to the Jaguars.

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Speaker 1: Excellent. All right, we're happy to have you here. Mark.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk a little bit more specifically about what

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Speaker 1: the Bengals bringing to the table and week tune what

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars are gonna need to do to get a

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Speaker 1: win in week two. So say with us here on

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Speaker 1: Am here midweek. We're getting ready for week two already,

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Speaker 1: but we should still enjoy the victory from week one.

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Speaker 1: We try to turn the page and get prepared though.

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Speaker 1: Mark Dufner joining us today and a perfect time for

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Speaker 1: you to join us. Obviously a longtime coach to the Jaguars,

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Speaker 1: but you were in Cincinnati as well, so we can

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Speaker 1: kind of pick your brain a little bit about what's

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Speaker 1: going on in Cincinnati this week.

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm happy to share with you right now, and

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Speaker 6: I know for a fact right now that they're in there.

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Speaker 6: Even though today is an off day for the players

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Speaker 6: at the offensive particularly the offensive players are receivers, a quarterback,

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Speaker 6: they're all in there in the walk through where going

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Speaker 6: through their footwork, catching tennis balls, doing all the little

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Speaker 6: things to try to improve their game, to up their skills.

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Speaker 6: So they didn't I think they felt like they didn't

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Speaker 6: of that nature. So they're in there working hard right

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Speaker 6: now in full respect for the challenge playing the Jaguars.

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Speaker 2: Tell us about Joe Burrow. We've talked at length about

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Speaker 2: him on the practice field. He's one of those guys

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Speaker 2: that because the Bengals haven't gone deep into the playoffs

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Speaker 2: except that one Super Bowl year, people tend to forget

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Speaker 2: that when you talk about Mahomes and Josh Allen and

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Speaker 6: Them, absolutely, And I'll tell you right now. I'm very

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Speaker 6: pleased that I had the opportunity to be around this guy.

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Speaker 6: I mean the attention to detail he does, competitiveness to work, ethic,

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Speaker 6: the study, the leadership, trying to improve his skills that

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Speaker 6: as they come. I called him Buckets because he'd go

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Speaker 6: move the offense in a way I haven't changed, so

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Speaker 6: I never could try to crack in the guy in

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Speaker 6: terms of something that wasn't good, wasn't something that I

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Speaker 6: highly respect him.

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Speaker 7: I mean he is off the chart.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, full disclosure.

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Speaker 5: Outside of the fifty three players for the Jaguar, he's

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Speaker 4: NFL player right now. I love the way the guy plays.

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Speaker 5: And if I'm wondering from Afar, my sense is this

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Speaker 4: Their locker room doesn't love him or is his best friend.

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Speaker 4: Maybe he is.

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Speaker 5: My guess is he doesn't care about that, And my

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Speaker 5: guess is he's a guy that everybody in that locker

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Speaker 4: He's that kind of inspirational.

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Speaker 6: Leader without a doubt, John, I mean, there's no doubt

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Speaker 6: they're gonna follow him anywhere, any place, and they have

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Speaker 7: You're right, he doesn't really care about anybody else, thinks.

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Speaker 6: His focus and his determination and trying to make the Jaguar,

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Speaker 6: I mean, make the Bengals be the best they possibly

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Speaker 1: Chart we talked a little bit about them. They've had

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Speaker 1: the Browns, still got the win. You can't underestimate them

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Speaker 6: Without a doubt. And I promise you, like I said,

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Speaker 6: we're gonna get their best shot. I promise you that

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Speaker 6: they're happy to be one. And oh, they kind of

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Speaker 6: got that monkey off their back, but they didn't, don't.

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Speaker 6: I know, they don't think they played as well across

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Speaker 6: and they want to try to rectify that. No matter

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Speaker 6: meaning they're thinking about the Bengals and how they can

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Speaker 6: get better on offense, defense and special teams, and I

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Speaker 6: suspect it's a scene for us right now on the

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Speaker 6: How we can get better at moving the ball, how

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Speaker 6: better at field positions and special teams.

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Speaker 7: All those will be the focus this week.

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Speaker 2: If you were in the meeting room here and on

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Speaker 6: Well, you you know, you've got to still rely on

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Speaker 6: your fundamentals.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I think if you get too you.

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Speaker 6: Know, over anxious about what they're gonna do, you're gonna

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Speaker 6: lose focus and they're gonna beat you badly as far

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Speaker 6: as that's concerned. So you're gonna have to still rely

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Speaker 6: on fundamentals, have your eyes where they've got to be,

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Speaker 6: Concentrate on understanding what your job is, and do your job.

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Speaker 6: They're tough, you know, I've never seen Jamar Chase get

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Speaker 6: And then t Higgins always says a way of coming

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Speaker 6: So again, he commands your attention, that's for sure. And

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Speaker 2: Thought that the Jaguars, they're obviously the more physical team

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Speaker 5: You know, def I haven't had a chance to talk

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Speaker 7: Well. I really liked their energy and effort. There was

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Speaker 7: In the run game, Jew but I.

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Speaker 1: Just a nice change of pays on defense to see

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Speaker 1: of all, John, the Colts beats Dolphins and boo them out.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's so hard to tell and not definitely tell

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Speaker 4: But the Colts, I think there was some inspiration involved.

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Speaker 5: But look, the Colts were a good team last year

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Speaker 2: I thought that Daniel Jones was a solid contributor of

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Speaker 2: They're going to be a hard out. They're going to

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Speaker 6: No question, Daniel Jones played like Indiana Jones. I mean

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Speaker 7: I mean, Miami.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, I saw that the Colts were

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Speaker 7: Unbelievable. Yeah, I mean it was unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: NOWT definitely not a fun spot to be from Miami,

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Speaker 1: Some struggles on offense for CJ. Stroud and just their

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Speaker 2: More well, and Duff can talk about Joe Mixon and

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Speaker 1: But I was.

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Speaker 2: Impressed by what I saw from Mit Chubb, who has

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Speaker 7: No doubt.

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Speaker 6: But what you said about Chubb is strong too. That

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Speaker 5: They had trouble last year sort of becoming what they

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Speaker 4: until week four.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, amen to that, John, What you say is right.

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Speaker 6: I already looked at that film. Yeah, and they just

441
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Speaker 6: couldn't get in rhythm and they just and that a

442
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Speaker 6: lot of it was they were stopping themselves, you know,

443
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Speaker 6: no disrespected the opponent, but in the rams, but they

444
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Speaker 6: stopped themselves.

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Speaker 7: So they're struggling right now.

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Speaker 6: We hope that it becomes an internal itch on them.

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Speaker 6: Right now, part of the offensive line, as you talk about.

448
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Speaker 6: I think their center was banged up a little bit.

449
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Speaker 6: They had tackle another player got hurt, so it starts

450
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Speaker 6: there too, But they just didn't get in sync.

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Speaker 7: And we hope that continues.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, I don't think Christian Kirk is

453
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Speaker 2: supposed to play for the first month.

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Speaker 1: Of the season as well, which you know can linger

455
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Speaker 1: with him sometimes that he's been injured a couple times

456
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Speaker 1: the last couple of seasons here in Jacksonville. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's close things out the Titans. Cam Ward makes his debut.

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Speaker 1: I think made some good decisions. Obviously, with a rookie quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Do you try to just pressure him.

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Speaker 6: As much as you can, try to do everything you

461
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Speaker 6: can to make sure he's not can't see things you

462
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Speaker 6: want Sure, we want to disguise him. We want to

463
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Speaker 6: get him wondering what's going on, so we can't produce sure.

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Speaker 4: So he had some strong throws, stayed in the pocket.

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Speaker 1: He has some strong arm. But Calvin Ridley had a

466
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Speaker 1: couple of drops, had a couple other drops from his

467
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Speaker 1: wide receivers. That makes it hard as a rookie quarterback

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Speaker 1: when you're already going up against that. But Denver Broncos

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Speaker 1: defense tough too, So the Titans fault for the Broncos

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Speaker 1: in their season opener as well.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think correct if I'm wrong. He got sacked

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Speaker 2: six times. He was never able to set his feet

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Speaker 2: and be comfortable because the Broncos defensive front is really

474
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Speaker 2: good and the Titans offensive line, you know, they brought

475
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Speaker 2: in the big tackle from Pittsburgh. They's pent sixty million

476
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Speaker 2: bucks on him, and they have the right tackle that

477
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Speaker 2: they dropped from Alabama last year. But they're still in

478
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Speaker 2: flux with their offensive line, and you know, doctor trying

479
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Speaker 2: to make the transition from cave man football where they

480
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Speaker 2: just beat the hell out of you with Derek Henry

481
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Speaker 2: right to a more modern offense that doesn't happen.

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Speaker 7: Overnight, not even close.

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Speaker 6: And that's it again, getting everybody to gel together right now.

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Speaker 6: I mean they they struggled running the football. Like you said,

485
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Speaker 6: Denver gave that quarterback a lot of different looks, so

486
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Speaker 6: as you said, he couldn't get set right now, he's

487
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Speaker 6: got feeling pressure, he's getting hit six sacks. I mean,

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Speaker 6: it was just again trying to get going. Anything get

489
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Speaker 6: going was uphill and toughs lading for him.

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Speaker 4: I only saw highlights. The highlights I saw.

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Speaker 5: Late involved a really good Denver defense with a rookie

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Speaker 5: quarterback who at times late was fleshed enough that he held

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Speaker 5: the ball too long, which is sort of if you're

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Speaker 5: writing the script.

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Speaker 4: For that game, how that's gonna go would have been

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Speaker 4: how you thought. But it looked to me like.

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Speaker 5: The first three or four games you expect that from

498
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Speaker 5: rooky quarterback Like that, he looked like the arrows up,

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Speaker 5: you know.

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Speaker 6: I think the other thing that rookies don't understand until

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Speaker 6: they get in the season is the speed of the game.

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Speaker 6: It's a little different in preseason. Each and every week

503
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Speaker 6: it gets faster, and then when you get into the

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Speaker 6: season it picks up then and it picks up as

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Speaker 6: the season goes on. So for young players, first time players,

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Speaker 6: speed of all that's going on, it's hard to underestimate that.

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Speaker 4: It came in a couple of players where it looked like, oh,

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Speaker 4: that guy's here already.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, no, that's right.

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Speaker 4: That happens.

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Speaker 7: Never good.

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Speaker 1: All right, stick with us one more break and we'll

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Speaker 1: tell you what's coming up the rest.

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Speaker 4: Of the week.

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Speaker 3: Some footwork things, you know, there was a couple on

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Speaker 3: the mistargeted throws that you know, if you look at

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Speaker 3: he's nineteen at thirty one. We missed four screens, no,

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Speaker 3: three screens on O Maha to Diami on the right sideline,

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Speaker 3: and then you talk about the one to BT. It's

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Speaker 3: like a few of those, and he's twenty five at

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Speaker 3: thirty one for two hundred plus. And now you're talking

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Speaker 3: it's not about the stats, it's about the balance. You know,

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Speaker 3: it's about the balance. And so if you're sitting there

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Speaker 3: saying he could have been twenty five or thirty one

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Speaker 3: for two hundred plus and you try to eliminate the turnover,

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Speaker 3: you're sitting there saying he had a damn good game.

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Speaker 3: So what's nice is that I thought he operated the

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Speaker 3: offense really well. I thought he had a great command,

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Speaker 3: He used his cadence. We got the free play response.

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Speaker 3: There were some really good things that did show up.

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Speaker 1: They tooked tween Cohen talking a little bit about what

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Speaker 1: he saw when he looked at the tape of Trevor

536
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Speaker 1: Lawrence's performance, described him as solid but obviously, pointing out

537
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Speaker 1: a couple of throws that were missed, things that switch

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Speaker 1: the tide on. It looks a lot better, Brian, when

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Speaker 1: you looked back at Trevor's performance, solid.

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Speaker 2: But more to do well the second half. Obviously he

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Speaker 2: wasn't as efficient, and that's got to be The word

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Speaker 2: is consistency, right, stuff. You've got to be consistent from

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Speaker 2: the start of the game to the end of the game.

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Speaker 2: And you can point to the long layoff or whatever

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Speaker 2: it is. I don't know that anybody's made any excuses

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Speaker 2: for it. But in the first half he was better

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Speaker 2: than he was in the second. So there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of upside there. And I think if you go back

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Speaker 2: and look at last year when Liam was in Tampa,

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Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield really took off after Week four. That's when

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden you started to go, wow, look

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Speaker 2: at what he's doing. So there's a curve that we

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Speaker 2: haven't quite got to yet, and John, part of that

554
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Speaker 2: is you've got to get into the meeting rooms and

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Speaker 2: you've got to make corrections, and you've got to coach,

556
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Speaker 2: and you've got to get him closer to where you

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Speaker 2: want him to be with respect to the offense and

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Speaker 2: the game plan.

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Speaker 5: Well, you can win with the guy in the first half.

560
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Speaker 5: You can win with the guy in second half if

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Speaker 5: you have a big lead. So he struggled in the

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Speaker 5: third quarter. But I think the big thing with Trevor

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Speaker 5: that you saw when it was going right and when

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Speaker 5: they kept him out of the gray in the first half.

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Speaker 5: Like Leam likes to talk about, they were throws he made.

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Speaker 5: There were decisions he made. They were very positive. I

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Speaker 5: thought it was a good way to build. But you

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Speaker 5: can't have stretches like he had in the third quarter

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Speaker 5: against the teams they're about to start playing from week

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Speaker 5: two to week eight.

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Speaker 1: All right, busy week coming up. Who are you guys

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Speaker 1: talking to this week? What do you got going on?

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Speaker 5: I'm supposed to have Jordan Lewis nasone podcast. I'm excited

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Speaker 5: about it. I did not have him on it in

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Speaker 5: the off season, and I have not a chance to

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Speaker 5: talk to him a whole lot, but as impressive as

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Speaker 5: you can be coming in as a free agent. And

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Speaker 5: he's got a great story. What was almost a career

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Speaker 5: ending injury in twenty three or so where he basically

580
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Speaker 5: shattered his foot. And I'm not going to compare him

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Speaker 5: to Kalais because that was a special.

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Speaker 4: Thing in twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 5: But this guy's impact as a leader as a free

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Speaker 5: agent is pretty impressive.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to talk to Sean Sharrott, the offensive line coach,

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Speaker 2: and Duff we were talking about it. The offensive line

587
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Speaker 2: in his first game together with a couple of new

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Speaker 2: starters and a new coach and a new scheme. It's

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Speaker 2: pretty impressive how physical they were able to play.

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Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, you got rush for two hundred yards.

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Speaker 6: The quarterback doesn't get shocked, he gets one hit in

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Speaker 6: the game. I mean, excellent, very very good as far

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Speaker 6: as were concerned. A couple penalty things, but that's gonna happen.

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Speaker 6: Some of that was just over aggression. But jeez, I

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Speaker 6: think you'd be very happy with that guy.

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Speaker 5: That's a good Sunday night for an offensive line coach, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: absolutely it is.

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Speaker 2: And you can appreciate the fact that offensive line coaches

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Speaker 2: are interesting to talk to.

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Speaker 4: You never know what you're getting, right.

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Speaker 2: You might get the guy who's happy coming off of performance,

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Speaker 2: but he might just be like they call him the

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Speaker 2: mushroom society right there in the.

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Speaker 7: Dark and get over it.

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Speaker 2: He might be a little little crankedy. He might want

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Speaker 2: his guys to play just a little bit harder, or

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Speaker 2: you know, not be so full of themselves. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I'm just throwing it out there, but offensive line coaches

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Speaker 2: are the most interesting assistant coach interviews that I have

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Speaker 2: ever done in thirty plus.

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Speaker 5: Years of doing this.

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Speaker 1: All the hard working out of the glory.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 1: So it's a line as motto, Mark, you will be

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Speaker 1: back on happy Hour. You've been on Thursday happy Hours

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Speaker 1: with JP and Jeff. I imagine you'll have a full

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Speaker 1: game plan by.

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Speaker 7: Then for them looking forward to it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I will, absolutely, Well we have we're happy to

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Speaker 1: have you on am.

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Speaker 2: The doors right over there and you tell me where

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Speaker 2: to walk in.

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Speaker 6: To get out, well that's no saying.

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Speaker 4: It's right there.

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Speaker 2: If you want to come through it, come through.

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Speaker 7: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: All right, Mark will be back for happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: We will be back on Thursday. As well as we

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Speaker 1: talk more Bengals here on jack zam