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Speaker 1: Welcome to Verdict with Ted Cruz. I'm Ben Ferguson. Nice

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Speaker 1: to have all of you with us, and Senator we

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Speaker 1: have got a lot to discuss today, including this new

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Speaker 1: news that Steve Bannon is going to spend in theory

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Speaker 1: some news, and that is the media is starting to

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Speaker 1: with school closures. We're gonna have that plus gun control

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Speaker 1: in Canada and a very important Senate race in Utah. Now,

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Speaker 1: before we get to those other story center, I want

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Speaker 1: to get to the shocking headline, and that is that

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Speaker 1: Steve Bannon is supposed to spend four months in jail.

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Speaker 1: In prison for defying an outwardly partisan kangaroo court is

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Speaker 1: how one tweet put it earlier. Today, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of people asking questions, how do you get four months

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Speaker 1: when guys like Eric Holder didn't get any time in jail. Kleinsmith,

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Speaker 1: for example, the former FBI sist in General counsel in

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Speaker 1: all Been Crossfire Hurricane didn't get any any time in

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Speaker 1: jail as well. Look, I think the news of Bannon's

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Speaker 1: being sentenced to four months is absolutely outrageous, and I

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Speaker 1: am furious about it. I'm furious because Merrick Garland has

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Speaker 1: presided over a Department of Justice that it now consists

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Speaker 1: opponents of Joe Biden and the Democrats. And Merrick Garland

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Speaker 1: should be ashamed. He should resign in disgrace, and if

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Speaker 1: What happened here the January sixth Committee subpoena Steve Bannon. Now,

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Speaker 1: the January sixth Committee is not a real congressional committee.

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Speaker 1: A real congressional committee has members from both parties, and

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Speaker 1: the Democrats select the Democratic members of the party, the

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Speaker 1: to have a kangaroo court. So she selected the Democrat

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Speaker 1: Kevin McCarthy selected the Republicans, and she promptly said, no,

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Speaker 1: I don't like those Republicans. She didn't like Jim Jordan.

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Speaker 1: She didn't want Republicans who actually would oppose the Democrat

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Speaker 1: to do that. That is unprecedent. It's an abusive power.

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Speaker 1: She literally tried to stack the deck. And so this

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Speaker 1: committee consists of one hundred percent Democrats plus two now

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Speaker 1: fake Republicans Liz Cheney and Adam Kenzing are both of

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Speaker 1: whom will be gone in January, neither of whom are

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Speaker 1: coming back as Republicans. And they're two Republicans who Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump shattered into tiny little pieces of impotent rage. And

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Speaker 1: they've conducted a year long TV commercial for the Democrats

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Speaker 1: these hearings. I literally have not watched one second of

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Speaker 1: these hearings for the same reason that I don't watch

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Speaker 1: the Democratic National Convention every four years. It is a

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Speaker 1: paid infomercial for the Democrat Party. So is this well,

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Speaker 1: this kangaroo court subpoena Steve Bannon. He declined to testify,

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Speaker 1: and the Department of Justice stepped forward and prosecuted him.

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Speaker 1: He was voted in contempt of Congress, and the Department

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Speaker 1: of Justice stepped forward and prosecuted him. And what just

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Speaker 1: The reason I'm furious Ben is the wildly double standard.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned Eric Holder. Eric Holder was Attorney General under

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Speaker 1: over documents, refused to testify, just stiff armed Congress. Congress

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Speaker 1: But look under our constitution, Congress, as the legislative branch

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Speaker 1: defined by Article one of the Constitution, doesn't have the

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Speaker 1: he wasn't prosecuted. The difference is now when it's Democrats

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Speaker 1: you know you mentioned also Kevin Kline Smith. I want

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Speaker 1: And look, we saw this this weekend, the headlines that

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Speaker 1: There was others that say Steve ban deserved what he

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Speaker 1: be clear about that and that doesn't mean that you

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Speaker 1: the American people have a right to be angry now

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Speaker 1: what Barack Obama was doing there. There's a technical word

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Speaker 1: for it that's called lying. How do we know it's

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Speaker 1: lying Because Number one, Lois Lerner was never prosecuted. Number two,

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Speaker 1: the Department of Justice a pointed a special prosecutor in

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Speaker 1: Number three, Lois Learner retired with full pension. But number four,

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Speaker 1: Obama Department of Justice was thoroughly corrupted. As you know.

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Speaker 1: Next week my book comes out on this topic, Justice Corrupted.

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Speaker 1: How the Left weaponize the legal system. I walk through

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Speaker 1: Lois Learner, I walked through Eric Holder, I walk through

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Speaker 1: Kevin klein Smith. Let's do Kevin Kleine Smith because it

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Speaker 1: gives another example. So Obama weaponizes DOJ, weaponizes the FBI,

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Speaker 1: forward to Trump, when Donald Trump becomes president. Under Obama,

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Speaker 1: these hard partisans had burrowed in to senior positions at

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Speaker 1: different agencies of the federal government. In the FBI, they launched,

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Speaker 1: along with DOJ, what was called Operation Crossfire Hurricane. There's

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Speaker 1: an entire chapter in my book explaining Crossfire Hurricane. Crossfire

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Speaker 1: Hurricane was the hard partisans at DOJ at the FBI

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Speaker 1: they do well? The Department of Justice Inspector General issued

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Speaker 1: Crossfire Hurricane. It outlined seventeen different major mistakes, the biggest

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Speaker 1: one of which was committed by Kevin Kline Smith. Kevin

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Speaker 1: Kline Smith was an Assistant General Counsel at the FBI.

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Speaker 1: The FBI was seeking a wire tap on a guy

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Speaker 1: And the basis of their wire tap as they said, well,

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Speaker 1: exactly right, And to ask that question, I want to

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Speaker 1: they may say, well, that's a weird question to ask. Right,

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Speaker 1: For the FBI to talk this, there was obviously something

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Speaker 1: a reasonable inference. We don't know what it was that

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Speaker 1: he is a source. Here's what Kevin Klein Smith did.

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Speaker 1: He took that email and he fraudulently altered it and

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Speaker 1: that is a felony. He created a fraudulent document and

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Speaker 1: and minority kids. And for Jake to say, I'm surprised

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Speaker 1: no one is having a conversation. I and many others

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Speaker 1: were screaming on the Senate floor. We're forcing votes on

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Speaker 1: the Senate floor. And you know what Jake didn't do.

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Speaker 1: He never covered the vote on the Senate floor. It

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Speaker 1: wasn't news well and not going to say, but Jake

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Speaker 1: didn't even look at all the parents in real time

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Speaker 1: when the school closures were carrying on that we're talking

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Speaker 1: about how far behind their kids had gotten. That they

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Speaker 1: were saying it was clear they were behind. They were

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Speaker 1: worried that their kids are going to be socially promoted.

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Speaker 1: There were parents that were saying, I know my kid

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Speaker 1: is not at the level where they should be graduating

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Speaker 1: the grade that they just said they graduated with bees

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Speaker 1: or a's. They were saying, this is a fraud. This

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Speaker 1: is a fraud. I referred to it as a form

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Speaker 1: of child abuse when you set a kid up for failure.

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Speaker 1: Right to me, I called it the educational Ponzi scheme

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Speaker 1: in this country center because you're taking money, you're claiming

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Speaker 1: you're doing something with the kids, and you're not giving

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Speaker 1: them what they paid for, what the money was intended

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Speaker 1: to pay for. That to me is a Ponzi scheme

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Speaker 1: and the worst kind. Because these kids are going to

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Speaker 1: graduate and they're going to go onto society and they're

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Speaker 1: going to realize they're not at a twelfth grade level.

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Speaker 1: They're at a tenth grade or a ninth grade level

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Speaker 1: at that point in time. Look, that's exactly right. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, this is not just a problem that

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Speaker 1: happened in the past. This is a problem that is

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Speaker 1: happening right now today. So the DC Public schools have

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Speaker 1: imposed a COVID vaccine mandate. They've announced they're going to

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Speaker 1: throw out a school any student that doesn't have a

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Speaker 1: COVID vaccine. It's supposed to go into effect in January.

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Speaker 1: Let me give you some stats that show you just

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Speaker 1: how idiotic this vaccine mandate is. The DC Public schools,

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Speaker 1: roughly eighty percent of the kids have received the COVID vaccine.

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Speaker 1: That means, for those of you doing math, although after

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Speaker 1: the last two years, doing math is harder for people,

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Speaker 1: that means twenty percent of the students have not had

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Speaker 1: the COVID vaccine. Now, let's look on racial lines, because

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Speaker 1: it's even more exacerbated when you look on racial lines.

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Speaker 1: In the DC Public schools, roughly sixty percent of the

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Speaker 1: students have received the COVID vaccine. That means forty percent

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Speaker 1: of the black students have not received the COVID vaccine.

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Speaker 1: Just a couple of months ago, I forced to vote

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Speaker 1: on the Senate floor and I stood up and said,

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Speaker 1: we should block this vaccine mandate. Why because it's idiotic

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Speaker 1: to throw out of school forty percent of the black

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Speaker 1: kids in the district of Columbia. And I stood on

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Speaker 1: the Senate floor and I argued for the amendment, and

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Speaker 1: I forced an amendment, and Ben every single Democrat voted,

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Speaker 1: not all of them, every one of them, Raphael Warnock

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Speaker 1: and Georgia voted to throw forty percent of the black

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Speaker 1: kids out of DC public schools. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: this is not some abstract point. Let's say you're a thirteen, fourteen,

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Speaker 1: fifteen year old kid the DC public schools. If they

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Speaker 1: throw you out, if they make you a school dropout involuntarily,

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Speaker 1: the chances skyrocket that you go down a road of crime,

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Speaker 1: of substance, abuse, of violence, of incarceration, and you have

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Speaker 1: a very good chance of early death. It is cruel.

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Speaker 1: I cannot imagine. I gotta tell you. I literally was

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Speaker 1: looking at my colleagues and wondering, like, what in the

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Speaker 1: hell is going through your mind when you cast a

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Speaker 1: vote to throw forty percent of the black kids out

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Speaker 1: of the DC public schools. And you know what Jake

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Speaker 1: Tapper didn't do. He didn't cover it, he didn't discuss it.

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Speaker 1: He's never asked one Democrat, not a single Democrat. He

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Speaker 1: has Democrats on a show every week. He's never asked

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Speaker 1: one of them, why don'd you vote to throw forty

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Speaker 1: percent of the black kids out of the DC public schools.

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Speaker 1: That's what's amazing for Tapper to say, I'm surprised they're

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Speaker 1: not a conversation about this. There has been a conversation

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Speaker 1: all across America. There's just not a conversation on CNN

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Speaker 1: because CNN is not a journalistic outlet. It is a

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Speaker 1: pure propaganda tool for the hard left. And so just

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Speaker 1: because Jake ain't talking about it, that is a choice

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Speaker 1: trying to silence and ignore the real conversation that was

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Speaker 1: happening and should have been happening on CNN. I think

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Speaker 1: one of the interesting points is going to end up

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Speaker 1: coming out of this center is the fact that there's

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Speaker 1: going to be many, many, many parents. They're gonna now

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Speaker 1: start looking at school choice and vouchers through a very

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Speaker 1: different lens, and conservatives like you, who have been talking

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Speaker 1: about this for decades are going to have to remind

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Speaker 1: them of how important it is to give parents the

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Speaker 1: ability to take their children to the school that best

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Speaker 1: serves them. And that is where I think conservatives can

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Speaker 1: capitalize on this absurdity, and they're going to be parents

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Speaker 1: are not going to want to get their kids vaccinated,

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Speaker 1: and they deserve to have their kids get a quality

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Speaker 1: education and have the choice to go to school that's

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Speaker 1: willing to serve their children, and that's something that needs

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Speaker 1: to be on the ballot in the midterms. We'll tell you,

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Speaker 1: by the way, is a bit of good news, given

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Speaker 1: these idiotic school shutdowns, given the abuses we've seen from

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Speaker 1: school boards and blue state politicians, the national numbers and

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Speaker 1: supportive school choice have skyrocketed. That there was always a

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Speaker 1: majority and in fact a supermajority of voters supportive school choice.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, that's true not just Republicans. It's

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Speaker 1: true of independence and it's true of Democrats. It's true

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Speaker 1: sixty to seventy percent of African Americans in the United

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Speaker 1: States sports school choice, same number seventy to eighty percent

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Speaker 1: of Hispanic supports school choice, and those numbers keep going

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Speaker 1: up because so many parents have seen the disaster that

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Speaker 1: their kids, unfortunately were subjected to. I want to move

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Speaker 1: to this other issue real quick center, and that's coming

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Speaker 1: out of Canada. I wouldn't be here if it wasn't

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Speaker 1: for my right to carry a firearm. I was a

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Speaker 1: target of a gang initiation. They it was two people

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Speaker 1: that shot at us. I was able to shoot back

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Speaker 1: and save my life. I know how important it is

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Speaker 1: to be able to protect and defend yourself. But what's

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Speaker 1: happening in Canada right now is truly unprecedented, and Trudeaux

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Speaker 1: announced it implying that the country and the rest of

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Speaker 1: the world should be envious of them. Take a list

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Speaker 1: and I'll get your reaction. In May, our government introduced

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Speaker 1: measures to implement a national freeze on handgun ownership. Today,

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Speaker 1: our national freeze on handguns is coming into force from

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Speaker 1: today forward. It is no longer legal to buy, sell

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Speaker 1: or transfer a handgun in Canada. Senator, this is something

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Speaker 1: that you heard. You would hear back in Nazi Germany,

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Speaker 1: to be honest, and now they're saying it in Canada

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Speaker 1: like you should cheer it on. Well, A couple of

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Speaker 1: things come to mind. First of all, this is the

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Speaker 1: Democrat vision for America. This is what my colleagues in

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Speaker 1: the Senate wants. This is what Diane Feinstein wants. This

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Speaker 1: is what Chuck Schumer wants. This is what Bernie Sanders wants.

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Speaker 1: This is what Elizabeth Warren wants. This is what AOC wants.

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Speaker 1: This is what Beato O'Rourke wants, where he says, hell, yes,

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Speaker 1: we're going to take your guns. This is what they want.

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Speaker 1: This is their desire. They are pretending sometimes they don't

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Speaker 1: want this, but they are looking at Justin Trudeau with

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Speaker 1: envy because this is their objective. Now, why have they

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Speaker 1: not been able to implement it so far in the

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Speaker 1: United States? Two reasons. One, Politically, there are tens of

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Speaker 1: millions of Americans who care about defending our right to

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Speaker 1: keep in bear arms, about defending our right to protect

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Speaker 1: our homes and our families and our children. Secondly, we

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Speaker 1: have the Second Amendment to the Constitution. Canada obviously is

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Speaker 1: not bound by our constitution. They don't have a Second Amendment,

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Speaker 1: and the left hates the Second Amendment. They wish it

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Speaker 1: didn't exist. And it is hard to find a more

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Speaker 1: powerful current example of why the Second Amendment is important.

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Speaker 1: Democrats in Congress would do what Justin Trudeau is doing

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Speaker 1: today if they could. They can't because the Second Amendment

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Speaker 1: says the right of the people to keep in bear

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Speaker 1: arms shall not be infringed. And it's important emphasized. The

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Speaker 1: reason the Second Amendment is in the Constitution is right obviously,

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Speaker 1: right after the First Amendment, right at the top of

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Speaker 1: the Bill of Rights. It's not about target shooting, it's

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Speaker 1: not about hunting, it's not about skeet shooting. The Second

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Speaker 1: Amendment is fundamentally about the right to protect your life

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Speaker 1: and your family. It is about the right that if

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Speaker 1: someone comes into your home seeking to harm your children,

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Speaker 1: seeking to harm your wife, that you have a fundamental right,

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Speaker 1: a god given right, to defend your life and to

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Speaker 1: defend your family. And that's what the right to keep

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Speaker 1: in bare arms is all about. Look, Ben, what you

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Speaker 1: went through. You you were attacked by criminals with guns,

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Speaker 1: and the fact that you exercise your right to keep

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Speaker 1: in bare arms saved your life. How old were you

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Speaker 1: when that happened, Ben, I was twenty three or four

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Speaker 1: at the time, if I remember correctly. That's a fundamental

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Speaker 1: right that the left doesn't want you to have. And

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Speaker 1: I'll give you a statistic from the Obama White House,

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Speaker 1: not normally a source of right wing statistics. The Obama

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Speaker 1: White House laid out that every year in the United States,

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Speaker 1: firearms are used defensively to stop a crime between five

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Speaker 1: hundred thousand and one million times every year. That's a

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Speaker 1: stat from the Obama White House. Yours was one of them.

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Speaker 1: So you were one of that five hundred thousand to

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Speaker 1: a million that year. What Trudeau is saying in Canada,

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Speaker 1: and what liberals and Democrats in America are saying is

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Speaker 1: they want that number to drop to zero. And you

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Speaker 1: know what will happen as a result. If you don't

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Speaker 1: have a right to keep in bear arms, if you

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Speaker 1: don't have a right to protect yourself. There will be

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Speaker 1: more murders because the murderers will have their guns, but

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Speaker 1: no one will have the ability to defend themselves. There

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Speaker 1: will be more rapes because the rapists will have their

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Speaker 1: weapons and no one will have the ability to defend themselves.

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Speaker 1: There will be more violent assaults. Look, when you saw

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Speaker 1: Antifa and Black Lives Matter riots all across the country,

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Speaker 1: it was the people that had the ability to defend

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Speaker 1: themselves who had at least some check to the lawless

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Speaker 1: violence that was waging outside. And Democrats want to take

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Speaker 1: away your ability to keep yourself safe. And and this

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Speaker 1: is a really chilling reminder that this is not fanciful.

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Speaker 1: This is reality. And we're saying it just to our

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Speaker 1: northern neighbor center. One last thing, and I want to

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Speaker 1: bring this up. And I know you got to run

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Speaker 1: to the airport in a second, but I think this

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Speaker 1: is very important that we mentioned it to everyone listening

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Speaker 1: to Verdict today and that's this, Uh, the balance of

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Speaker 1: the Senate very likely, there's a real possibility could come

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Speaker 1: down to a race in Utah. There is a race

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Speaker 1: in Utah with Senator Mike Lee. We mentioned it on

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Speaker 1: this show last week. This is a race that Democrats

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Speaker 1: understand the value of this fake democrat he's running is

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Speaker 1: an independent. They understand that he's valuable to them possibly

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Speaker 1: holding control of the Senate. The amount of money that's

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Speaker 1: coming in from outside to say Utah is gonna end

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Speaker 1: up being historic in Utah politics. And this is a

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Speaker 1: race that many of you listening to Verdict right now,

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Speaker 1: if you can donate to Senator Mike Lee. He's a

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Speaker 1: good friend of yours. He's a good man running for

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Speaker 1: office there. Get involved. If you have family or friends

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Speaker 1: in Utah, you need to be reaching out to them

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Speaker 1: and advocating for Senator Mike Lee. And this is a

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Speaker 1: race that Democrats are going all in on. This is

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Speaker 1: also a race that may end up taking you back

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Speaker 1: to Utah, even though you were just with him on

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Speaker 1: that bus trip, because it's going to be so important. Now,

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Speaker 1: that's exactly right. This race is dangerous. It's a real race.

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Speaker 1: There's a real possibility that Mike could lose. And the

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Speaker 1: reason is what is happening in Utah is one of

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Speaker 1: the most dishonest and deceptive things I've ever seen in politics.

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Speaker 1: And it's several things coming together. You have Evan McMullen,

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Speaker 1: who you remember in twenty sixteen ran as an independent

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Speaker 1: against Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton, and he claimed he

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Speaker 1: was kind of a nice Republican. He wasn't Trump and

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Speaker 1: he was just a nice guy, and he ended up

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Speaker 1: getting a lot of votes in Utah. He's Mormon, and

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Speaker 1: folks in Utah that that didn't like what Trump said

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Speaker 1: and how he talked, they voted for McMullen. All right

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Speaker 1: fast forward to now. McMullen is one of the many

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Speaker 1: never Trump Republicans who are broken, who are shattered, who

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Speaker 1: are so filled with hate for Donald Trump that they've

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Speaker 1: abandoned everything they claim to believe. So McMullan is now

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Speaker 1: running as a quote independent in Utah. He is not

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Speaker 1: an independent. Evan McMullen is a Democrat who will elect

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Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer. My confidence level on that is one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: Let me lay out why so McMullen is claiming. He says,

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Speaker 1: I will not conference with either side. I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to caucus with the Republicans. I'm not going to caucus

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Speaker 1: with the Democrats. I'm going to be a happy independent,

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Speaker 1: floating like a be just peaceful and happy. Well, let

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Speaker 1: me give you some data points. Number one, the Democrat

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Speaker 1: Party in Utah did not run a Democrat. They chose

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Speaker 1: let's not have a Democrat at all, so they didn't

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Speaker 1: nominate anyone. Number two, the Democrat Party in Utah formally

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Speaker 1: endorsed Evan McMullan, so they're telling all the Democrats vote

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Speaker 1: for McMullan. Number three, McMullen is raising his money using

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Speaker 1: Act Blue, which is the online portal that you have

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Speaker 1: left wingers and socialists and Democrats from all of the

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Speaker 1: country refueling millions and millions of dollars into the race.

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Speaker 1: He's being funded by the same people that fund Bernie Sanders,

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Speaker 1: an AOC, and Elizabeth Warren. Number four. Just in the

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Speaker 1: last quarter, Evan McMullan spent one point six million dollars

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Speaker 1: going to Democrat consultants and operatives who are running his campaign.

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Speaker 1: Number five. In the last few days, he had a

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Speaker 1: fundraiser hosted by John Tester, who used to lead the

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Speaker 1: Democratic Senatorial Committee, the political arm of Chuck Schumer that

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Speaker 1: is devoted to electing Democrats into keeping Schumer as majority leader.

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Speaker 1: John Tester knows exactly what he's doing, which is trying

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Speaker 1: to put in place someone who will vote for Chuck Schumer. Now,

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Speaker 1: why is it dangerous? Why is bright Red Utah even competitive? Well,

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Speaker 1: the reason it's dangerous is McMullen is getting all of

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Speaker 1: the Democrats and their forty some odd percent of voters

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Speaker 1: in Utah Democrats, and then he is picking up some

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Speaker 1: of the moderate Republicans, of the more moderate Republicans. So

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Speaker 1: if you look at McMullen's campaign ads, he looks like

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Speaker 1: a Republican. He talks about securing the border, he talks

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Speaker 1: everything he talks about is Republican because he knows the Democrat.

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Speaker 1: If he was a real Democrat, he couldn't win this thing.

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Speaker 1: That's why they've had to lie to the people and

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Speaker 1: imply that he's actually somehow an independent conservative Republican asked candidate,

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Speaker 1: that's that's why this is a big lie. Well, and Ben,

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Speaker 1: let me tell you the question that Evan McMullin should

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Speaker 1: should be forced to answer. But because we have a

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Speaker 1: corporate media that are not actually journalist, he hasn't been

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Speaker 1: forced to answer it. He says, well, I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to cauc us with either side, So isn't that wonderfully independent?

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Speaker 1: That's not the question. Let's suppose in January we have

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Speaker 1: fifty Republican senators that are elected, and we have forty

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Speaker 1: nine Democrats senators that are elected, and Evan McMullan. If

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Speaker 1: that happens, McMullen will have a choice and he will

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Speaker 1: have to vote. It doesn't matter who he caucuses with,

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter he has lunch with at the opening of

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Speaker 1: the Senate. He will have a vote, and he have

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Speaker 1: one of two choices. If he does nothing, if he abstains,

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Speaker 1: if he votes for Mickey Mouse, then Republicans will be

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Speaker 1: the majority of the Senate. On the other hand, if

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Speaker 1: he votes for Chuck Schumer, Kamala Harris as Vice President

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Speaker 1: will break the fifty fifty tie and the Democrats will

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Speaker 1: be the majority. Now, if Chuck Schumer is the majority leader,

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Speaker 1: what will that mean? That will mean that Bernie Sanders

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Speaker 1: will remain the Budget chairman. That will mean that Dick

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Speaker 1: Durbin will remain the Chairman of Judiciary, which means we

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Speaker 1: will do nothing to have oversight of the Biden administration.

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Speaker 1: We will do nothing to have oversight of the corruption

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Speaker 1: of this administration. We would do nothing to examine the

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Speaker 1: origins of COVID nineteen and the Wu Hunt Institute for

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Speaker 1: Virology will do nothing to examine the evidence of Hunter

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Speaker 1: Biden Joe Biden's corruption with China. We will do nothing

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Speaker 1: to secure the border, just like the Democrats have done

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Speaker 1: nothing for the last two years. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: if you think that that is an outcome that McMullen

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Speaker 1: doesn't like, he voted for Joe Biden. He voted for

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden. He actively defends Joe Biden, and yet they

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Speaker 1: are deceiving the voters because the voters are thinking, well,

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Speaker 1: he's kind of sort of Republican. No, he is a

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Speaker 1: Democrat through and through, and no reporter has asked him

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Speaker 1: the question. Mister McMullen, if there are fifty Republicans and

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Speaker 1: forty nine Democrats, your vote will determine who has the majority.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter who you caucus with. That's not an answer.

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Speaker 1: Which way will you vote? And the odds I believe

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Speaker 1: are one hundred point zero zero zero percent he will

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Speaker 1: vote for Chuck Schumer and empower the lawless corruption we

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Speaker 1: have seen in Washington. If you want to help Senor Lee,

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Speaker 1: you can go to Lee for Senate dot com, Lee

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Speaker 1: for Senate dot Com and tell your family and friends,

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Speaker 1: if they are out there and able to vote in Utah,

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Speaker 1: about the importance this race. If you want to take

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Speaker 1: articles I've written about Lee, post him on social media,

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Speaker 1: Tell your friend just support Lee and help that go viral.

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Speaker 1: It's so important in this race. And Ben, let me

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Speaker 1: say two other things. Number one, so let's take the

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Speaker 1: question of life. When McMullan was running for president twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 1: he claimed to be pro life. He claimed to want

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Speaker 1: to see roversus weight overturned. Now that it actually has

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Speaker 1: been overturned, McMullan has had a change of heart. He

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Speaker 1: suddenly realizes, Oh crap, I need to get all the

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Speaker 1: Democrats to vote for me. So he's now against Roe

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Speaker 1: versus Wade being overturned. Just today online Robbie George. Robbie

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Speaker 1: George is a professor at Princeton University. He was my

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Speaker 1: thesis advisor in college. He is one of the most

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Speaker 1: respected conservatives in the country. He is a man of

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Speaker 1: impeccable character, a man of impeccable judgment. He wrote a

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Speaker 1: detailed description about Evan McMullin calling him in twenty sixteen

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Speaker 1: and trying to get his support in the twenty sixteen campaign,

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Speaker 1: and Robbie wrote how he asked him at great length

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Speaker 1: about life and about his support for life, and he

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Speaker 1: said McMullin swore up and down he was opposed to

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Speaker 1: row and he would fight against it. And Robbie just

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Speaker 1: just recounts how everything he said to me either he

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Speaker 1: was lying through his teeth then, or he believes nothing

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Speaker 1: and is willing to change it for convenience. Now it

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Speaker 1: really is a devastating indictment because it shows. What it

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Speaker 1: shows is that he's a Democrat, that he's an opportunist,

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Speaker 1: and he's taking advantage of deception. I'll say, secondly, you

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Speaker 1: want to understand what the stakes are in this race.

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Speaker 1: If Schumer is still majority leader, because people in Utah

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Speaker 1: have been fooled into voting for Evan McMullen, and there's

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Speaker 1: another vacancy on the Supreme Court, the Democrats will ram

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Speaker 1: through another left wing ideologue who will undermine our free

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Speaker 1: speech rights, our religious liberty rights, our Second Amendment, all

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Speaker 1: of our fundamental rights. So when you are voting, if

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Speaker 1: you vote for Aman McMullan, you are voting to take

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Speaker 1: away religious liberty from Americans and from people in Utah.

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Speaker 1: Not only that, McMullen has said that he supports S one.

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Speaker 1: What is S one? S one is Chuck Schumer's number

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Speaker 1: one priority. It is the federal takeover of elections. It

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Speaker 1: strikes down virtually every voter integrity law in the country.

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Speaker 1: It strikes down photo id laws, It strikes down's prohibitions

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Speaker 1: on ballot harvest. It automatically registers millions of illegal aliens

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Speaker 1: to vote. The purpose of S one is to ensure

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Speaker 1: that Democrats will remain in power forever and that it

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Speaker 1: becomes effectively impossible to vote them out. The fact that

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Speaker 1: McMullan supports that makes perfectly clear that if you vote

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Speaker 1: for him, you are voting for Chuck Schumer, and that

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Speaker 1: is absolutely tragically unacceptable. I think to a large majority

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Speaker 1: of people from Utah, even very moderate people from Utah,

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Speaker 1: they don't like what the Democrats are doing, and they

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Speaker 1: need to understand McMullen and the media are lying to

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Speaker 1: them by suggesting that he would be anything other than

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Speaker 1: a Democrat foot soldier for Chuck Schumer. Yeah, get involved,

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Speaker 1: go to the website leaf Senate dot com. Senator I

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. As always, our conversations were remindered everybody listening,

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Speaker 1: reach more conservatives ahead of the election day. Senator, a pleasure.

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Speaker 1: I'll talk to you again and we'll do this in

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Speaker 1: a couple of days. Fantastic