1 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live to New York, Kilomberg eleventh to Washington, d C, 2 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: bloom to Boston, Bluemberg twelve on its to San Francisco, 3 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: Bluebird nine to the Country Series at Channel one ninety 4 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: and around the globe the Bluemberg Radio Plus happened Bloomberg 5 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: dot com these bloomwork surveillance. Good morning, have you won 6 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Surveillance? Tom Keene and joining me now, Scarlet Food 7 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: thrilled Scarlett with this morning, Scarlett, Let's get right to 8 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: the economic indicators. Economic indicators this morning marching by Commonwealth 9 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: Financial Network. When it's time to change the conversation and 10 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: talk with a broker dealer r I A that's ready 11 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: to listen, call eight six six four six two three 12 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: six three eight or visit Commonwealth dot com to learn more. 13 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: It's a quiet day the market US Manufacturing p M 14 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: I later in the day next week Housing housing housing 15 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: uh we all sorts of good things like case, Schiller 16 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: and even durable goods in there to give us an 17 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: important g D p uh tweak. Scarlett, I'm a major 18 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: here in a way. Did you stay for the third period? 19 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: I stayed until the bitter end because my son did 20 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 1: not want to leave, but I made him leave before 21 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: they announced the three stars of the game because I 22 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: knew that there would be no Rangers who would be 23 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: among the three stars. That's fair enough, right, um, Tom. 24 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 1: When I'm looking at the markets, what surprises me here 25 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: is that you've got so many individual companies down in 26 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: pre market trading, Alphabet, Microsoft on those disappointing results, Yet 27 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 1: when you look at futures, they're kind of met there 28 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:39,199 Speaker 1: there little change. Everyone's emphasizing the macro over the micro today. Yeah, 29 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 1: the macro is five nothing. Pittsburgh. I mean, for those 30 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: you nationwikes, through is a die hard ring. You really 31 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: know how to twist the dagger. Die hard Rangers, And 32 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: I might I might point out, folks that she don's 33 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: the blades and actually, what position do you play when 34 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: you play women's hockey. I've attended a couple of practices. 35 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: I'm working on it, working. Yeah, that's it's a polite 36 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: way to put it. Are you like horn Quest in 37 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: front of the net? Pegs you get in front of 38 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: the net and just make it not nearly as effective. Yeah, 39 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 1: I'm working on that. Okay, Well, they're scarlet food with 40 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: their hockey. Update. Of course the Penguins, I guess they 41 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: play Saturday, and the Penguins doing better than good. They 42 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: they come down the ice quickly. Did you stay and 43 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: watch the game? Okay, yeah, that's probably all you needed. 44 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: It's different kind of hockey for those of you that 45 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: are not hockey fans. It's a wonderful time of year 46 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: here in New York. Scarlett. It is a quiet tape 47 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: this morning. It is a quiet tape, and we want 48 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 1: to bring in John Harriman of Mitsubishi ufj A Securities 49 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:37,679 Speaker 1: right now to talk to us a little bit about 50 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: the eco data that's on tap that we've seen this week. John, 51 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: I know that you've been looking specifically at jobless claims 52 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: as this indicator of the strength in the labor market, 53 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: and they continue to trend lower. It's a really remarkable 54 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: scarlet that we the patterns we've been seeing for the 55 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: last i'd say two to three years. But what when 56 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: I look at this year, what jumps out at me 57 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: is this from a pure cyclical basis, the the year 58 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen is mirroring very closely, uh, the pattern 59 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: in jobs claim because we saw in the year two 60 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: thousand and also in the year nineteen eighty nine, and 61 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: if if you recall, those were years where the claims 62 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: were so low, they were at the absolute end of 63 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: the economic cycles for the nineteen eighties or the nineteen nineties, 64 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: and it was only after you know, almost ten years 65 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: of economic growth that you're able to achieve such low 66 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: level of claims. Were now tracking that remarkable performance this year. 67 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: Are you saying we're at maximum employment? No? No, No, 68 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: We're saying, is there's a chance there's a chance we 69 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: may actually set a new even lower record and an 70 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: annual cycle next year. There's a chance. But here's what 71 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: here's what's particuliar. When if you go back in nine 72 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: and in the year two thousand, when we had had 73 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: claimed solo, Chairman Screenspan, who was running the set at 74 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: the time, became nervous about this Phillips curve relationship. You know, 75 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: this this the idea that very low unemployment leads to 76 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: significant wage gains, which translates ultimately into a much higher 77 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: core and headline inflation. So he became very worried about that, 78 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: so he hyped rates, I would say just a little 79 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: bit too aggressively. In both of those episodes and the 80 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: following year after threw us into a recession. So what 81 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: I'm hoping what I pitched this says, and and maybe 82 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: you know, as I was on scholars Show recently, in 83 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: the TV show where I mentioned that I think Jerry 84 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: Yelling maybe actually the right person right now for the job, 85 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: because she, even with such low level claims, she may 86 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: go very gradually, very cautiously on the rate hikes, unlike 87 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: Sherman Greenspan, who previously moved right off sharply and quickly 88 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 1: slowed the economy and things unsfolded. But we don't, none 89 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: of us want that. I'll take your point clearer issue here. Yes, 90 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: the numbers are great, and all my mails says, these 91 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: guys are nuts. John Herman's nuts, scarlet nuts. I don't 92 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: care what claims are. I'm looking at my economy and 93 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: my joy, my village, my city. Let me use you 94 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: the basic Yelling question, is there slack in the economy. 95 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: I think there's still slack in the economy, tom. And 96 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,559 Speaker 1: here's why. From the year two thousand and six through 97 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: last year. Uh, there's a group of people in economy 98 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: called their working age, but they're called not in the 99 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: labor force. That that group swelled to swell by seventeen 100 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: million people from twenty two thousand six through seventeen million 101 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: people up to about ninety four and a half ninety 102 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: five million people. What we've observed for the last i'd 103 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: say five months is that we're now the labor market 104 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: is sufficiently tight where employers when they go to higher uh, 105 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: they're actually even going into that pool of people what's 106 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 1: called not and pulling those people into ops. And that 107 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: has been something that Cherry Yelling argued back in two 108 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: thousand leven two that she was hopeful would happen. Uh. 109 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: And now we're finally, you know, seven, you know, five 110 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: six years later, finally starting to get that. So if 111 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: I was to Charley Yelling, I'd say, okay, look, uh, 112 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: you know, I I was on a hook five or 113 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: six years ago. I was looking for this kind of 114 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: pattern where the economy was strengthened enough we start drawing 115 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: down that reserve, that surplus pool of workers, as called 116 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: marchis are calling we do. We start drawing them down, 117 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: bring them back into health, their families, health economy, give 118 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: the economy a little more resilience, a little more depth. 119 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: We want some depth to the growth process. Here and 120 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: give a little more strength and and and she's getting it. 121 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: So if she goes slow, I mean, I know you 122 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: know everyone's while you get vice. Chaick Fish turns saying, 123 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: always worried about wage growth, he's worried about the tinness 124 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: of the labor market. He's worried about the Phillips curve. 125 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: And you just don't want to overreact the way we 126 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: did in nine or two thousand. Pushed these very sub 127 00:06:55,640 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: confessors soon and then slow us downing ourselves back with 128 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 1: John Herman and Mitsubishi UFJ with us this morning on 129 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: the Odditiesily I get Scarlo get tons of mill on 130 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: this with incredible jobless claims. There is another way to 131 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: put it. Futures up to down, futures up ten. This 132 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: our surveillance is brought to you by BMW mount Kisso. 133 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: Visit BMW mount Kisso dot com. Let's bring in Michael 134 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: barb with national and international headlines. Michael Scarlett, Tom, thank 135 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: you very much. President Barack Obama is in the UK. 136 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: He's having lunch right now with Queen Elizabeth. President Obama 137 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: has also waited until the heated Brexit debate. President Obama, 138 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: in an op ed piece and the telegraphers the UK 139 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: to stay part of the EU, saying the EU does 140 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: not moderate British influence, it magnifies it. London Mayor Boris 141 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: Johnson bristled at President obama suggestions, saying the US does 142 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: not follow its own advice. States would not dream of 143 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: subjugating itself in any way to any other international jurisdiction. 144 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: Uh they won't even sign up to the International Criminal Court. 145 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: Britain's will vote on the Brexit in June. President Obama 146 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: is set to become the first sitting president to visit Hiroshima, Japan, 147 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: since in atomic bomb destroyed the city during World War Two. 148 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: According to the Niek Business Daily, President Obama would be 149 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: accompanied by a Japanese Prime minister, Shinzo Abe, after Japan 150 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: hosted G seven summit in late May. Earlier this month, 151 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: Secretary of State John Kerry visited a Roshima and on 152 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: Topsy is scheduled for today for pop Icon Prince. He 153 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: was found dead in the suburban Minneapolis home in age 154 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: fifty seven. Global News twenty four hours a day, powered 155 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: by our twenty four hundred journalists and more than a 156 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 1: hundred fifty news bureaus from around the world. Michael bar Scarlett, Tom, 157 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: thank you so much, Michael. It is time now for 158 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: the land Rover Percippi Bloomberg NBC Sports Update. Let's bring 159 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: in John Stash Heart and John. You're gonna start with 160 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: the Rangers. The awful game last night, down five nothing, 161 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 1: the Rangers trail three one in the series. It's a 162 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: must win on Saturday. You were there, apparently, Yeah, I 163 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: was there. It was painful to the very end. Yeah, 164 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: maybe the the one still there at the end. Well, 165 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: the Rangers knew they were facing a hot team. Penguins 166 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 1: won four team of their last sixteen, but it has 167 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: been surprising how one side of the series has been 168 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: Penguins winning game four five nothing. First time the Rangers 169 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: has been shut out in four months an a Ranger team, 170 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: they went nearly four months without back to back losses. 171 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: Now trailing three games to one, facing elimination. Their coaching 172 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 1: lane Vigno, You know how a character for this group 173 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 1: to come up with this type of performance. I don't 174 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: think it was a matter of lack of will. We 175 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: just picked a very bad night to have a very 176 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: bad game. Had the bench Henry Lunk was second period 177 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: of Game five in Pittsburgh three o'clock tomorrow, Tampa Bay 178 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: scored late one nothing over Detroit to win the series. 179 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: Anaheim one at Nashville. That series tied to two. Chicago 180 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: double overtime win at St. Louis to stay alive. Islanders 181 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 1: have Game five at Florida tonight. The Warriors able to 182 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: win once without the injured Steph Curry, but not again. Houston, 183 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: on a game winning from James Harden, won ninety six. 184 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 1: Golden States, still leading two to one, didn't lose back 185 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: to back games all season. Toronto and Oklahoma's vide both 186 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: one for two one series leads. Not the loss for 187 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: the Yankees failed to get an extra base hit. The 188 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: normally reliable bullpen gave up five runs over the last 189 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: three innings. Oakland finished a sweep seven three. Yanks have 190 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,719 Speaker 1: lost seven last eight. The Cubs won sixteen nothing at Cincinnati. 191 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: They out hit the Reds eighteen to nothing on no 192 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,599 Speaker 1: hit her for Cubs. As Jake Grietta with the Bloomberg 193 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: NBC Sports Update, I'm John scar John, thanks so much. Yes, 194 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: we'll continue our discussion here in Penguins Rangers Hockey. When 195 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: Scarlett is re medicated five. Nothing. You have to keep 196 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: repeating that, don't you. Yes, I thought it was fair. 197 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: I think the penguins are playing like l A. King's. 198 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: They just come down. That's another painful memory. They come 199 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:47,359 Speaker 1: down the ice very very fast. They escaped forward aggressively 200 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 1: like a few other teams in hockey. John Herman with 201 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 1: this Mitsubishi UFJ will continue our discussion here Oil forty 202 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:00,599 Speaker 1: three fifty one a barrel. This is Bloomberg's Surveillance. 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Caterpillar cut its forecast 221 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: for the year. It shares her down two point two percent. 222 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: Honeywell beat stocks are falling, commodities retreating as investors wound 223 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: back enthusiastum that had sent gauges of both to this 224 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 1: year's highs earlier in the week. The end dropping is 225 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: the Bank of Japan weighs the possibility of offering negative 226 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: rate loans to banks. We check the markets every fifteen 227 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: minutes throughout the trading day on Bloomberg snp E Mini 228 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: future as little change this morning. DOWIE mini futures down too, 229 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: and NASDACI mini futures down eight The decks in Germany's 230 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: down half percent. Ten year treasury down five thirty seconds, 231 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: the yield one point eight seven percent. Nimax screwd oil 232 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: of seven tenths per cent or thirty two cents to 233 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: forty three fifty a barrel. Colmacs Gold is down two 234 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: tenths per cent or two dollar sixty cents at twelve 235 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 1: forty seven sixty announced the euro and all our twelve 236 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: fifty eighth p N one eleven point oh six. That's 237 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: a Bloomberg Business Flash, Tom and Scarlett Karen, thanks so much. 238 00:12:55,800 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: It is folks on a Friday on Wall Street. The 239 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: following is from Bloomberg View. Opinions and commentary from Bloomberg columnists. 240 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: I'm a entrepreneuru, a columnist for Bloomberg View. Donald Trump 241 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: says that Republicans want to slash SO Security and Medicare 242 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: and that their approach will cost them elections. He's right 243 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 1: that these programs are very popular. That's why Republicans have 244 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: been careful in their approach to them. They don't want 245 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 1: to cut Social Security benefits from their current level. They 246 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: want to slow their growth. The leading Republican proposed to 247 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: change Medicare guarantees that senior citizens will face no increase 248 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: in out of pocket expenses and the Congressional budget officers 249 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: will actually cut those expenses. Trump provides no realistic alternative 250 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: for making SO Security and medicare, solvents, cutting waste, fraud 251 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: and abuse, as he promises, cannot possibly make up social 252 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 1: securities ten trillion dollars shortfall, nor would raising taxes on 253 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: the rich raised nearly enough money. We face an inescapable 254 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,719 Speaker 1: trade off. Either we raise middle class taxes to keep 255 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 1: middle class benefits rising, or we reign in the growth 256 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: of those benefits to keep those taxes down. While either 257 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: choice carries political risks for Republicans, standing for entitled reform 258 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: is the better option. I'm entrepreneuria. For more of you, 259 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 1: please go to Bloomberg View dot com or view go 260 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: on the Bloomberg terminal. This has been Bloomberg View and 261 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: Bloomber You. Commentaries could be heard hourly weekdays on Bloomberg Radio. 262 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: Michael McKee in Florida. He's off to do a panel. 263 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: Scarlet food picked a short straw. We said at the 264 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: Rangers one you didn't have to come in. She's here. 265 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: She'll be here all weekend. John John John Herman Mitsubishi 266 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: UFJ with John. There's a consensus belief that the first 267 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: quarter was moldy and it will get better. Yes, I 268 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: don't hear that consensus from you. What what's what's the 269 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: path to decent economy? Okay, so, uh, you know we well, 270 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: we've been forecasting for a long time and we continue 271 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: to forecast. Is the economy's potential. The average growth rate 272 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: that we're running is very close to two and that's 273 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: just productivity games plus of labor force growth, and unfortunately, 274 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: both of them are significantly slower than will be observed 275 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: over the last forty to fifty to sixty years. Unfortunately 276 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: this time around, we can do some things in the 277 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: government can do some things to change it. But until 278 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: we do those things, we continue to forecast around two 279 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: percent growth on average, not just this year but for 280 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: the comedy so um, so we do have we have 281 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: an inventory correction in the first quarter. Unfortunately, we also 282 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: have a ballooning foreign trade drag. So our exports are 283 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: slow because the rest of the world is slow. But 284 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: we're also we're not manufacturing as much stuff at home 285 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: that we consume that we used to, so we have 286 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: to import this. You know, I have to import those goods. 287 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: So in general softwaret quarter. Definitely we're above the street 288 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: on second quarter bounds and uh problems, and I think 289 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: also a little bit above the street on the third 290 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: quarter bounce and then we look for a fourth quarter 291 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: just a little bit below the streets. So on average 292 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: though around two percent this year, one point nine two 293 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: percent this year, about uh two, two point one, maybe 294 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: two point two next year. But again some of the 295 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: keys is this, if you can just keep this labor 296 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: you know of labor market growing and not overreact, don't 297 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: don't get you know, looped into this sort of academic 298 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: argument over the Phillips curve and expressions on just don't 299 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: get looped in patients and slow you know, we we 300 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: this is this recovery is more like a marathon. It's 301 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: not a sprint. So what we you know, in previous 302 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: recoveries in four or five or six years, we had 303 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: super strong gains and income. Everybody felt good, consumer conferences, roaring, 304 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: people would borrow and some one. This time it's been 305 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: very moderate, very slow, painstakingly slow. So this time it 306 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: has it's more like a marathon. You've got to just 307 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: time out and hopefully hopefully the expension last another four years. 308 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: Here's the thing. We have this pattern now developing since 309 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: the financial crisis, where GDP growth in the first quarter 310 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: is a little bit subpar. Uh Deutsche Bank actually included 311 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: this in their recent note. Where the first quarter, on average, 312 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: you see eight tenths of one percent growth, in the 313 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: second quarter you get average growth of about three point 314 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: one per cent, four times stronger than the first quarter. 315 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: What's going on there? Uh, some it was some seasonal 316 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: adjustments that the government was not correctly incorporating. And uh, 317 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: but what we're getting this time around is they've they've 318 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: attempted to correct for it. But what we're getting this 319 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: time is we've sort of have a double whammy hitting 320 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: in the first quarter. We had an overbuild of inventories 321 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: all last year when the dollar strengthen and companies brought 322 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: in a ton of inventories inexpensively, and now we're just 323 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. In this quarter, we're trying to 324 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: correct them where you know, bring these inventories down, uh, 325 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: you know, burn them off, so to speak, and bring 326 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: things more into bounce. So we have that extra drag. 327 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 1: But what is also something to be mindful of is this, uh, 328 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 1: you know, business capex spending is very soft. Chairman green 329 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: Spencer is talking about this. We've been talking about it. Uh, 330 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: it's been really soft the entire decade, and it's been 331 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: the worst recovery in business capex uh on you know 332 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: since the early fifties, and Chairman Greenspan says in his lifetime, 333 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: which puts it back into the thirties. So this is very, 334 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: very bad. And we see we see CAPE spending on 335 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: equipment this quarter negative sharply they go two point five. 336 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: My stegment this is, you know, officials in Washington have 337 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: to ask themselves, where seven years into a recovery and 338 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 1: businesses are still unwilling to commit capital, to commit their 339 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: finances to you know, investment on on either equipment or 340 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: structures lasting to have the aspensos. Why are they unwilling 341 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: to make this commitment? And it's not the key for 342 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: really good growth you need you need to have this. 343 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: And and unfortunately when I talk to officials and Washington, 344 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: they're not really browt in on this, and they're not 345 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: and they're not doing the real job and they're not 346 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: doing the real job on this on this matter. But 347 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 1: until we get more consistent, more robust um, you know, 348 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: more passion out of businesses, you know, we're gonna stay 349 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: and unfortunately staying this kind of two percent average growth 350 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: rate where you know, first quarters a little bit on 351 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: the soft side and you get to bounce in the 352 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: second and third quarters, and that's where we're at. Unfortunately, 353 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 1: So given all that, there will still be people who 354 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: look at what the economies going through endpoint that the 355 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: Federal Reserve will look mainly at the market reaction and 356 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: how it's performing. And of late it's things have stabilized, right, conditions, 357 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 1: financial conditions of ease, stocks are right around their best 358 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: levels of the year. Does the Federals are sound more 359 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: hawkish as a result next week because of this stabilization. 360 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: I think, you know, I think you know, you're gonna 361 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: have many different voices on the effluence, but I think 362 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: Cherry Yellen is going to have kind of a steady 363 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: hand here. And I think you know, she in the 364 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: last several months has said, you know, not only were 365 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: just concerned about the financial conditions and song, but we're 366 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: also concerned about the global growth, the impact that the 367 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: strong dollar is having on our exports, on our manufacturing 368 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 1: activity and the like and song. And I think she's 369 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: going to have a steadier hand, and I don't think 370 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: she's just gonna flip flop on the basis of, you know, 371 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: a six week rally in stocks and that kind of thing. 372 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: I think she's going to have a more consistent hand, 373 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: and I at least that's what I hope she does, 374 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: because if does that, I think we can achieve you know, 375 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: even more games in stocks for example, but also get 376 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: the economy going a little bit more, help the job 377 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: market go hopefully, get you know, wages up just a 378 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: little bit more this year, next year and so on, 379 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: give consumers and businesses a little more confidence, and you know, 380 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: maybe we start to see you know, some borrowing and investment. 381 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 1: But you know, right now this, you know, consumers cautious 382 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: this first quarter. I think the savings rates up in 383 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: the first quarter. That's how cautious people are. Unbelievable. I 384 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: think you're totally right. Where does the savings rate go 385 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: in the next three months is unbelievable. Jenn Herman, thank 386 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: you so much. With UFJ Scarlett, it has been the 387 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: most interesting first quarter. We're now what to making three 388 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: weeks in the April. Companies have reported so far, well, 389 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: there's the there's the reporting which has been I haven't 390 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: seen a good sun of that, but it's been a 391 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: little saggy, to say the least, lackluster. Yeah, but what 392 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 1: what I would point out, certainly it's too early to 393 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: have any handle in the second quarter. But one of 394 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: the reigning debates in this weekend is is when does 395 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: the flip occur as we migrate from the first quarter 396 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: into this quarter. It's still the same this Yeah, there 397 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: is in Tracy ellen Away and I were saying on 398 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Television yesterday that as the UK companies begin really 399 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 1: reporting in earnest as well, you wonder to what extent 400 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: some company executives will start blaming Brexit concerns as reasons 401 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 1: why their sales or their profits are not doing as well. 402 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: It's kind of like a Y two K cover all excuse. 403 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's an excuse or not, but 404 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: you wonder whether you'll start to get that kind of 405 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: explanation in the in the earnings. Yeah, and of course 406 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 1: look this weekend to Bloomberg News coverage the president's trip 407 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: not only does Saudi Arabia, but of course in England 408 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: right now visiting the Queen and of course the strong 409 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: idea that of his op ed in the Daily Telegraph, 410 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: the Telegraph as well. He will move on to Germany 411 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: after his visit in England. Futures up one is a 412 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: churn of the market. Nasdaq Future has actually right on 413 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: the screen. Tenure yield up a basis point one point 414 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: eight eight percent. The junior yield has been a big 415 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: shift this week. We're at the point eight to higher 416 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 1: yields really across the curve. Higher oil prices Brent crude, barrel, 417 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: Scarlett fue and Tom Keane another hour of Bloomberg surveillance