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Speaker 1: And welcome to Lake cake Islive. It is Tuesday, that

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Speaker 1: August tenth, Dear of Our Lord, twenty twenty one. You

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Speaker 1: heard me right, It's Tuesday three. A week's is back,

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Speaker 2: The season four Matt is back.

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Speaker 1: So we're here from now until we crown a national champion,

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Speaker 1: and probably a few weeks beyond that. Sunday Tuesday, Thursday

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Speaker 2: We had one out just this morning in which.

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Speaker 1: We delved into very very fascinating and very very unique

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Speaker 1: I'm not here at beg though, I'm here to tell

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Speaker 1: you we have a jam packed show tonight and we're

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Speaker 1: going all over the country. We're going to hit a

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Speaker 1: bunch of outposts in the SEC.

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Speaker 2: Where are we going tonight?

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Speaker 1: Actually, so we're gonna hit Tennessee, A and m Bama,

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Speaker 2: Did I say Florida State?

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Speaker 1: Probably already once. Look, We've got a lot to discuss

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Speaker 1: tonight and then I'm doing the Inside Carolina podcast in

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Speaker 1: Rama Noodle Express. It's been mia over the course of

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Speaker 1: the summer because there's no games to bet on over

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Speaker 1: the summer. But we are rapidly approaching the time, my friends,

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Speaker 1: get off that Rama Noodle diet, and it's time for

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Speaker 1: us to enter the real world. It's time for us

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Speaker 1: to do that, we got to make some money. We

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Speaker 1: got to bet some winners. And we're going to discuss

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Speaker 1: some games of the year tonight, and I'm going to

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Speaker 1: show you the Vegas number four out of the five

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Speaker 1: going to show you what our internal model says about it. Now,

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Speaker 1: this time of year. And so we'll discuss that, and

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Speaker 1: then I'm also going to give you our biggest questions

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Speaker 1: the case with the Ram and Noodle Express and many

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Speaker 1: at late kick Josh. Also, as we dive in tonight,

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Speaker 1: So there is nothing that you are not seeing there.

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Speaker 1: Everything is as it appears on the surface. At Georgia,

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Speaker 1: So Warren Ericsson was penciled in to be the starting

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Speaker 1: Well, this is not ideal, but it's really not ideal

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Speaker 1: like for someone to explain to me this is rhetorical

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Speaker 1: because hair notwithstanding.

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Speaker 2: There's no one else in this studio right now.

436
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Speaker 1: But I would like for someone to explain to me

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Speaker 1: what a quarterback controversy is. And why don't we have

438
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Speaker 1: wide receiver controversies? Why do we never have safety controversies?

439
00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,040
Speaker 1: We only have competition at those positions, but at quarterback

440
00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,040
Speaker 1: sometimes we have quarterback controversies. Now, if you're running a

441
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Speaker 1: website out there and it is it is imperative that

442
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Speaker 1: you generate a minimum amount of clicks, Okay, call it

443
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Speaker 1: a controversy all you want to. But for the real

444
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Speaker 1: ones in the room, what are we talking about when

445
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Speaker 1: we say quarterback controversy?

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Speaker 2: It's competition.

447
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Speaker 1: There's nothing bad that's happening at Ohio State right now,

448
00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,760
Speaker 1: because they have multiple guys good enough to start.

449
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Speaker 2: All right, let's move on.

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Speaker 1: I do question how Florida State's going to handle their

451
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Speaker 1: quarterback situation. If I was texting back and forth with

452
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Speaker 1: the buddy down lives very near Tallahassee, not exactly in Tallahassee,

453
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Speaker 1: close to the program, though he pays for that access,

454
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Speaker 1: but he's very close to the program. And so we've

455
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Speaker 1: been going back and forth all summer about Mackenzie Milton.

456
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Speaker 1: I've spoken my piece on him here. I think ultimately

457
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Speaker 1: he's going to give them the best chance to win

458
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Speaker 1: football games. But at the same time, offensive tackle is

459
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Speaker 1: going to be a weakness for this team this year.

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Speaker 1: Let's just put it out there and state it like

461
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Speaker 1: it is. This is not a team that has the

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Speaker 1: kind of depth at that position to where, even at

463
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Speaker 1: their maximum potential, that's ever going to become a strength

464
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Speaker 1: for them. Now, everybody's got strengths and weaknesses, relatively speaking,

465
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Speaker 1: some are more glaring than others. But having stated that,

466
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Speaker 1: it makes your quarterback vulnerable. Well, anytime you got weaknesses

467
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Speaker 1: at tackle, it makes quarterback vulnerable. And then you add

468
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Speaker 1: into that the context that Mackenzie Milton is coming off

469
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Speaker 1: a devastating injury now, much like Deerreck king down at Miami.

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Speaker 2: We've heard all the right things about him.

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Speaker 1: Even back in spring we saw him move around, so

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Speaker 1: it's not like anyone is chewing their fingernails down to

473
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Speaker 1: the nubs worrying about whether he can walk up right.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, having watched the history of

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Speaker 1: this game as you and I have, you know it

476
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Speaker 1: makes you nervous the first time you see a free rusher,

477
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Speaker 1: not in a spring game where they're going to blow

478
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Speaker 1: the whistle and not in practice where it's not live

479
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Speaker 1: bullets and it's a touch and it's a blow the

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Speaker 1: play dead this in the fall. When Notre Dame is

481
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Speaker 1: on the field with you ten minutes into the first quarter,

482
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Speaker 1: they're trying to knock your head off. Figuratively, we don't

483
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Speaker 1: want to win kicked out of a game, but they're

484
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Speaker 1: trying to assault you at quarterback. They want to knock

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Speaker 1: you out of the game, and so then it becomes real.

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Speaker 1: And that's where the whole quarterback rotation possibly fits in here,

487
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Speaker 1: because the other situation to keep an eye on is

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Speaker 1: Jordan Travis's having a really good camp for Florida State,

489
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Speaker 1: and it's been a net positive positive for Jordan Travis

490
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Speaker 1: no matter if he wins this job outright or not.

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Speaker 2: Two positives there.

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Speaker 1: Number one, this coaching staff has been a godsend for him,

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Speaker 1: both physically and mentally. And number two, I think Mackenzie

494
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Speaker 1: Milton's been a godsend for him because not only do

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Speaker 1: you have culturally just an infinitely better and less toxic

496
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Speaker 1: environment for a quarterback to exist in, but you've got

497
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Speaker 1: real premium competition they're at the position, and any player

498
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Speaker 1: worth his salt, quarterback or otherwise will tell you competition

499
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Speaker 1: never made a mentally tough guy worse, it only made

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Speaker 1: him better. And so I think he is the latter

501
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Speaker 1: instead of the former of that descriptor. And so I'm

502
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Speaker 1: thinking to myself, if Jordan Travis does indeed progress throughout

503
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Speaker 1: this camp and put on a good showing, even if

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Speaker 1: he's not matching Mackenzie Milton throw for throw, even if

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Speaker 1: he's not grading out a for a whin Mackenzie Milton,

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Speaker 1: given what the potential slight limitation may be on Mackenzie

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Speaker 1: Milton if he wins that job, I think it's ludicrous

508
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Speaker 1: to be surprised if both of these guys are worked

509
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Speaker 1: into the rotation there Florida State.

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Speaker 2: I absolutely think both of them will.

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Speaker 1: Play and play a lot this year, and that is

512
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Speaker 1: injury or not, even if they're both healthy. Now, I

513
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Speaker 1: want to shift it. Stay in the ACC for a second,

514
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Speaker 1: but shift it to Clemson. Talked about this the other day,

515
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Speaker 1: But since some Clemson fans think that I'm out with

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Speaker 1: torch and pitchfork in hand to get them, we really

517
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Speaker 1: got to lather them up in the preseason. Here. There

518
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Speaker 1: are a couple of fan bases that I just have

519
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Speaker 1: to handle differently, and Clemson's one of them. Because I

520
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Speaker 1: cannot pronounce the name right, so it's already strike one.

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Speaker 1: Strike two is a lot of Clemson folks think that

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Speaker 1: the world's out.

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Speaker 2: To get them.

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Speaker 1: I got a lot of Clemson buddies, and I'm talking

525
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Speaker 1: directly to them right now. They know good and well

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Speaker 1: who they are, and they know this in their heart

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Speaker 1: to be true. So having said that, let me just

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Speaker 1: tell you how much I love Clemson for a second,

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Speaker 1: specifically the wide receiver position. It is no breaking news

530
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Speaker 1: that they've got a lot of talent at receiver. It's

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Speaker 1: the length it's the wings span Like you can't fit

532
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Speaker 1: the edges of the fingers on camera. Neither can I.

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Speaker 1: I'm not starting at receiver for Clemson. I can assure

534
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Speaker 1: you of that. So I put out a tweet today

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Speaker 1: and I was just marveling at the overall linked in

536
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Speaker 1: their receiver room. Good.

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Speaker 2: Jesse's got it up.

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Speaker 1: Jesse, by the way, is punching the show tonight from Connecticut.

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Speaker 1: We've taken a break from Fort Lauderdale, giving those guys

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Speaker 1: and girls the day off. We've shifted our operation up

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Speaker 1: to Connecticut, which has confused many of you because I

542
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Speaker 1: am in Nashville. But we're just we're beaming this thing

543
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Speaker 1: all over the place to get it to you live.

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Speaker 1: Look at the length on this chart, though, if you're

545
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Speaker 1: listening on the podcast, let me read these names to you.

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Speaker 1: Justin Ross is sixty four to two o five. E. J.

547
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Speaker 1: Williams sixty three one ninety. Both of them hail from

548
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Speaker 1: Phoenix City, Alabama, by the way, shout out Phoenix City.

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Speaker 1: Frank Ladson is six three two oh five and Gotta

550
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Speaker 1: is six three two twenty. Aju Azue bless you is

551
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Speaker 1: six three two twenty. There's not a guy in their

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Speaker 1: receiver room, that's gonna see serious minutes this year. That's

553
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Speaker 1: under six y three. Now, combine or compare that rather

554
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Speaker 1: with what Bama's been like the last couple of years,

555
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Speaker 1: and they had the best receiver room by a mile

556
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Speaker 1: in the country and sent four of them to the

557
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Speaker 1: first round, and none of those guys were over six

558
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Speaker 1: to one, which just goes to show you there are

559
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Speaker 1: several different ways still to skin the old wide receiver cat.

560
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Speaker 2: But if you'll look at the b roll, which.

561
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Speaker 1: Is a fancy term for this really slow motion three

562
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 1: year old footage we're showing right now, it's three years

563
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Speaker 1: old for a reason.

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Speaker 2: Well, the first highlight was it.

565
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Speaker 1: Was the length on display in the twenty eighteen title

566
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Speaker 1: game that we were discussing the other night, where those

567
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 1: thirty seventy balls were getting caught and caught and caught,

568
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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, Bam is getting beat by

569
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Speaker 1: four touchdowns by Clemson. How is that?

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Speaker 2: Well, elite receiver play, That's how it was.

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Speaker 1: And I'm having a really hard time not picking Clemson

572
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Speaker 1: to win the national championship this year. This is not official,

573
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Speaker 1: so this is just between you and I. Don't tell

574
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Speaker 1: the folks that run our desk or cbsports dot com.

575
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Speaker 1: Because I'm not ready to turn my picks in yet,

576
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Speaker 1: but I'm I'm leaning towards Clemson to win the national

577
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Speaker 1: championship right now. Now, that would buy me, I think

578
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Speaker 1: a lot of credibility up there. Lastly, I want to

579
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Speaker 1: go to Ann Arbor and I want to talk about

580
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Speaker 1: a guy that as we sat here on National Signing Day,

581
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Speaker 1: we were talking a whole lot about Remember Donovan Edwards.

582
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 2: It was Wilt Fong in here.

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Speaker 1: I think Trey Scott was over in the nether regions

584
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Speaker 1: of the edge of the studio. Now we had Trey

585
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Speaker 1: on air that day, didn't we call in? And we

586
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Speaker 1: had director Colin as always on the ones and twos

587
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Speaker 1: in there. But there was a guy we talked about

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Speaker 1: a lot. After we got off the air, we said,

589
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Speaker 1: did we do like seven Donovan Edwards segments? Says, well,

590
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Speaker 1: we kind of did because we thought he was going

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Speaker 1: to be a big deal. And then subsequently on Late

592
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Speaker 1: Kick I talked about him a lot. This is a

593
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Speaker 1: four star high four star true freshman running back. You

594
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Speaker 1: see his bio if you're watching here on YouTube. He

595
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Speaker 1: chose Michigan over Notre Dame among other programs. This was

596
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Speaker 1: a really really big get at the time. They'd gotten

597
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Speaker 1: Xavier Worthy in a sense, then he's gone on to Texas,

598
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Speaker 1: but they got Donovan Edwards to go to Michigan. And

599
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Speaker 1: so the reason I made such a big deal about

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Speaker 1: him is because we had people behind the scenes telling

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Speaker 1: us there is zero chance unless he unless he stubs

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Speaker 1: a tow or he's got ingrown tone ail or a lot.

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Speaker 2: Of tow issues.

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Speaker 1: Apparently, unless he hurts himself, he's going to be playing

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Speaker 1: very early for them, because he's one of the most

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Speaker 1: college ready backs you'll ever see. From the neck up,

607
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: he's totally there. Physically, he's totally there. He's five eleven

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Speaker 1: one ninety, put together really really well, and he's a

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Speaker 1: complete back. There aren't glaring weaknesses to his game, and

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Speaker 1: he's going to Michigan where they need guys like that. Well,

611
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,239
Speaker 1: sure enough, early on in camp at Michigan, that's all

612
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Speaker 1: anyone wants to talk about. They want to talk about

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Speaker 1: Donovan Edwards. And there are two things that stand out

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Speaker 1: about him really if you talk to people close to

615
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Speaker 1: the program up there. One is skill set, but number

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Speaker 1: two is total self starter. He's the kind of guy.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I make this comparison. In the atmospheric science world,

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00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 1: we have closed cold core lows sometimes and they're very unique.

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Speaker 1: One of the only chances you're going to get snow

620
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Speaker 1: in the South is if one of those rogue systems

621
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Speaker 1: comes through. But what's so fascinating about it from a

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Speaker 1: meteorological perspective is they provide.

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Speaker 2: Their own cold air.

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00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: They can be seventy degrees all around them, but that

625
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: little system can be pumping thirty two degree air in

626
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Speaker 1: itself and it can make its own cold air doesn't

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Speaker 1: come from Canada or anywhere else. Well, that's kind of

628
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: how folks like Donovan Edwards are when they walk in

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Speaker 1: a room. You could be in an office building and

630
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: know someone like this. You can meet a football complex

631
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,439
Speaker 1: and know someone like this. They don't need motivation externally.

632
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: They don't need you to pump them up. They don't

633
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 1: need you to disrespect them before they get angry. They

634
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 1: don't need to see anybody else. They don't need to

635
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: be led. They are leaders. It's intrinsic. It's in them.

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Speaker 1: And when those kinds of guys walk in the door,

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Speaker 1: I don't care if they're eighteen years old or twenty

638
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,199
Speaker 1: two years old, true freshman or senior. They impact the

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00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 1: rest of your program. Donovan Edwards, from the day he's

640
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: been on campus at ann Arbor has started to impact

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00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: the Michigan program. Now, in an ideal world, you got

642
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: several guys like that, but you take as many of

643
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: them as you can get, and Donovan Edwards is a

644
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: really good one. So you're gonna watch Michigan play early

645
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: in the season. They got that big game against Washington

646
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: in Week two, which is the first time most of

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00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: you will watch them watch for Donovan Edwards, true freshman

648
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Speaker 1: running back. All right, let's take let's take a little,

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Speaker 1: a little and let's go out west, all the way

650
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: to the desert, all the way to Las Vegas.

651
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Speaker 2: So a little story for you.

652
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Speaker 1: It's been a very eventful couple of days for director Colin, myself,

653
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: several other people here, most of which I can't talk

654
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: to you about yet, but if you were following me

655
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: on Instagram, you probably saw a lot of it. So

656
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: it culminated last night. We went out to eat with

657
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: a couple of the high level mustaches here at CBS.

658
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: It's well after closing time, so they're not watching the

659
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: show and one of the high level mustaches, which ironic

660
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Speaker 1: because he himself does not have a mustache. But if

661
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: your management, you are a high level mustache. He said

662
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: to me in a crowded restaurant in downtown Nashville. I

663
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: think you should talk more gambling on Lake Kick. And

664
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: I said, mustache, mustache, mustache. Have you not heard of

665
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: the Rama Noodle Express? And he said no, Tell me

666
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: about this ram Noodle Express. Where does it run to?

667
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,719
Speaker 1: What rail corridor is it in? Well, it's not an

668
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: actual train, sir, Well explain it to me. Make it

669
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: make sense. Well, it's our gambling segment on Lake Kick.

670
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: What does that have to do with ramen noodles or

671
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: a train? I can't spell it out for you. All

672
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: I'm telling you is it means something to our audience.

673
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: They know what it means. It's kind of inside. And

674
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: if you don't watch the show, you don't get it.

675
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 2: You don't get it. That's fine.

676
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: But you guys are up there in the corporate world.

677
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:12,719
Speaker 1: You've got fifty dollars ice cream scoops.

678
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 2: We're down here in the trenches.

679
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: We're down in the wells and the mines, and we

680
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: are trying very much to stay off the Rama Noodle diet,

681
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: and the only way we can do that in many

682
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: cases is by hitting Western Michigan plus three and a

683
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: half late in the game. This fall in week three,

684
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: and that is where the Rama Noodle Express was born,

685
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: and every fall in the season weeks one, weeks two,

686
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,959
Speaker 1: weeks seven, week eight. You know to come here, and

687
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: you know we're giving you enough winners to keep you

688
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: off that diet unless you start parlaying, at which point

689
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: you deserve every bit of terrible luck that comes your way,

690
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: because it's not luck at all. Parlays are Satan's tool

691
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: and I can't put it any planer than that. So

692
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: don't do meth, don't bet parlays. Two are the only

693
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: rules we have on the show. But I want to

694
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: take a look at some games of the year. These

695
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: I want to be careful here. These are not games

696
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: that we're telling you to bet on yet, and if

697
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: you choose to, that's mine. I have moved on a

698
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: couple of these, and I will tell you the bets

699
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: I've made.

700
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 2: But I want to tell you.

701
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: The way we hand out any pick on this show

702
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: during the fall is we run it through a model,

703
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: and it's proprietary. I work with someone and we've built

704
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: this thing for a long time. When I say we,

705
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: he mainly builds. I mainly give vision and some guidance

706
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: and assistance. But we're really proud of it, and we

707
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: really trust it. We don't brag about it a lot,

708
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: because if we bragged about the percentages it hits out,

709
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: it would sound like we're full of it and we're lying.

710
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: So we just win. So we did last year on

711
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: the show. The picks we handed out here hit at

712
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: fifty three to thirty seven. I think it was like

713
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: a sixty point one percent winning percentage against the spread.

714
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: Incredibly good. And so having said that, I decided, all right,

715
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: high level Mustachham, we'll meet you halfway. We're gonna talk

716
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: some gambling on Late Caick tonight. I am going to

717
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: run the model on five games of the year. I'm

718
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: going to tell you what the Vegas number is. Right now.

719
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: You can bet four out of these five games, and

720
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: then I'm going to tell you what our model says.

721
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: Let's start and we're just going here.

722
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 2: Georgia versus Florida.

723
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Speaker 1: This is the game. I can't remember. It's a little

724
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: bit later in the season. But the Vegas number right

725
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: now is Georgia minus seven and a half. You can

726
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: bet this number widely at minus seven and a half.

727
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: Keep in mind, what I'm going to show you is

728
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: raw model output, so there would be a couple of

729
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: other factors added in. If this was the week of

730
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: this game, we would take the raw model data, and

731
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: then we would add a couple of little caveats of

732
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: our own, and it would pump out our official number.

733
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: But our raw model data, if we have that, we'll

734
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: roll it now, is Georgia minus nine. So we still

735
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: lean a little heavier on the dogs than do the

736
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Speaker 1: guys in the desert who have set this number. This

737
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: is a game that has a chance to move on

738
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Speaker 1: opening weekend. Keep in mind this is a future's number,

739
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: so it moves with the market throughout the season. Believe

740
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: it or not, this is probably the next most losable

741
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: game that Georgia has all year. They've got the Clemson

742
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: game in Week one, and this is probably the next

743
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: most losable game they have all year.

744
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 2: Now that doesn't really.

745
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: Mean anything within the context of this, but what I'm

746
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: saying is something that would seriously affect this line is

747
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: probably going to have to be happening to Florida, probably

748
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: not happening on the Georgia side. So if Georgia were

749
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: to get pasted like forty four to twenty seven in

750
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: the first week, you may see some movement on this.

751
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: But right now, this is where it stands. We think

752
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: the opposite. Okay, what our model, in a forward thinking fashion,

753
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: because we've built a model that thinks is doing is

754
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: we think Georgia's offense is probably going to overachieve relative

755
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: to whatever the market expectation is right now, and probably

756
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: about one and a half points per season over achieved

757
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: relative to expectations. So that explains the gap between Vegas

758
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: and our number. Moving on, I think Jesse the one

759
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: game that we did not have a Vegas number on.

760
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: But I have a very strong opinion on is Utah

761
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: at USC This is going to I think determine the

762
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: PAC twelve South. That's my opinion. But we're not handing

763
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: out season predictions here yet. But what I do want

764
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: to tell you is this is October ninth. It's the

765
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: only big game on Southern cal schedule where the Trojans

766
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Speaker 1: don't have have a decided scheduling, dynamic advantage they have

767
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: got a very workable schedule. It's like Clay Helton drew

768
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 1: it up himself except for this game. And this is

769
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: the wrong game to be on the wrong end of

770
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: scheduling dynamic because I think this is their toughest game.

771
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: This is a veteran Utah team. One we're going to

772
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 1: talk about more in just a second. This is our number.

773
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 1: We've got Southern cal minus one. Let me translate that

774
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,919
Speaker 1: for you because that adds in home field. We think

775
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: Utah is better than USC my power ratings when they

776
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: come out a little bit later this month, unless something

777
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: crazy happens, we will have Utah rated higher than USC,

778
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: So keep that in mind. There is a word going

779
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: around the water cooler out in Salt Lake City that's

780
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 1: not all that hard to believe that this is such

781
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: a veteran laden team for Utah and there is so

782
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: little brand new install happening out there right now, that

783
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: this is a team that is ripe to be able

784
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: to circle a game, especially one that you're going to

785
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 1: have a bye week before anyway, and have your own

786
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: totally unique game plan installed for that particular contest. And

787
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: I think that's exactly what Utah is doing. Partly right now,

788
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: partly in the summer, and then they can find two

789
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: net thing when they get to the bye week and

790
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: got thirteen days prep when they get in the season,

791
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: Utah is going to be ready for Southern cal How

792
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: about Penn State at Iowa. This one is happening on

793
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 1: what I think is the biggest Saturday of the year,

794
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: and it is a game that has such variants because

795
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: both teams have games, several of which that they could

796
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: lose that could impact the market's opinion. Here to give

797
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: you an idea of what happens before this matchup, Penn

798
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: State plays at Wisconsin, they play Auburn, and they play Indiana.

799
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: Iowa by this time will have already played Indiana, at

800
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: Iowa State and at Maryland. All six of those games

801
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: are losable, some of them they'll be dogs. In Having

802
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: said that, the current Vegas number on this game is

803
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: Iowa minus three, and our model just disagrees, and I

804
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: would agree with our model here. There is not much

805
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: tweaking I would do on this line. We have got

806
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: this at pick I have already bet Penn State in

807
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: this spot, So this is one I've moved on. It's

808
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: not an official handout but it's one I've already moved on.

809
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: I really like Penn State in this spot. You're gonna

810
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: need to watch Penn State in week one. It's a

811
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: losable game. It's a game they won't be favored in.

812
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: They're at Wisconsin, So if you don't want to move

813
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: here and I already played it because I just liked

814
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: the number, but there is some strategy in waiting until

815
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: after week one, because Penn State could lose to Wisconsin

816
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: in week one and not change my opinion on this

817
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: game one bit. I mean, if they lose thirty four

818
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: to twenty seven, I still see this game the same way,

819
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: but the market may not, especially if Iowa were to

820
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: beat Indiana in week one. You may see this move

821
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: off and go to three and a half or four,

822
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: and then you could get some added value.

823
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 2: I'm happy with the value now.

824
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: I just want to tell you that's how we would

825
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: explain that and why maybe if you wanted to wait,

826
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: you should wait Iowa State at Oklahoma. For personal reasons,

827
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: I'm not going to have much comment on this game,

828
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: but I did feel that I owed it to you

829
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: to show you the number and to show you there

830
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: is no bias involved. In the Late Kick Model, I

831
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: was stayed at Oklahoma. We have as sooners. Well, I'm

832
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: going to tell you what Vegas has.

833
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 2: First.

834
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: Vegas has Oklahoma minus nine and a half. We got

835
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 1: Oklahoma minus eleven. Now again, if I had a green

836
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: screen behind me, I would just put a green circle

837
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: on my chest right now so you could see through it,

838
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: to represent how much this rips my heart out. Because

839
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: what I want to be able to tell you is

840
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: I want to tell you, oh, we think this is

841
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 1: way too fat. There's a lot of public square money

842
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: on Oklahoma. No, no, no, friends, this should be under

843
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 1: a touchdown. But that's just not the way the model

844
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: sees it right now. Like I said, I'm not going

845
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: to give you much comment because I wish the model

846
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: didn't see it this way. But this one is it's

847
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 1: later in the season. Time to change. We'll see. Maybe

848
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: Matt Campbell installs some new gadgets in his offense, because

849
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: believe me, they got plenty of time and plenty of

850
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: returning starters too. The last one I wanted to hit

851
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: right quick is Bama at Texas A and m This

852
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: has happening in the same day as Penn State, Iowa

853
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: Bama minus ten and a half at Texas A and M.

854
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: That's what our model sees, and it's very much in line,

855
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: a little bit shorter, but pretty much in line with

856
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: what the guys in the Desert Sea. Now with Alabama,

857
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: I think I talked about this like a month ago.

858
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: We see every Alabama game right this second as about

859
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: a point to a point and a half short of

860
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: what the Vegas number is.

861
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 2: That's the Dallas cowboy effect.

862
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: Very that's very very public nature of team being baked

863
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: into line sort of deal. So we agree with the

864
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 1: odds makers. It's just the odds makers have baked in

865
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 1: a little added juice there without calling it juice on Alabama.

866
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: But this is a fascinating game because it may decide

867
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: the SEC West. But I also want you to think

868
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: about this. If you go look at Texas A and

869
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: M's schedule, you could make the argument that this is

870
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,720
Speaker 1: the first game potentially that they'll have to ask Haines

871
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 1: King to win. Now that carries with it its own

872
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: set of obstacles. Alabama is always a big obstacle. But

873
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: then the third context that you need here to make

874
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 1: this very varying focus is Alabama's defense is as poised

875
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: to play takeaway this year and harass your quarterback and

876
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: spike on those havoc rate indexes or indices as they

877
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: have been in several years. So you've got a Formula

878
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: four disaster there potentially, wherein you're asking your quarterback to

879
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: do more through the air than he will at any

880
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: point all year, and you're facing the most opportunistic and

881
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: lethal defense that you will face at any point all year.

882
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: So Alabama minus ten and a half, you're gonna or

883
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: eleven and a half, you're gonna look at that. You're

884
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: gonna say, WHOA, that's a fat number. How does it

885
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: get out of hand? Well, that's how it would get

886
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: out of hand. Turnovers is how it would get out

887
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: of hand. Okay, let's move on. Colin. By the way,

888
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: since we're here rested in the middle of a segment,

889
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: I think our air conditioners on the fritz.

890
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:49,760
Speaker 2: Again.

891
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: It's talking to me in morse code up here, So

892
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: if we can't hear it, it's not a big deal.

893
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: If we can hear it, I don't want to be

894
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: made fun of in the comment section when we put

895
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: the individual video out.

896
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: Let's roll along.

897
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: I was told the other day we don't talk enough

898
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: PAC twelve. I totally disagree. I think we've talked a

899
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: lot of PAC twelve on the show, but I listened

900
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: to the audience and more than a few of you

901
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: said it. So we're gonna finish the show tonight by

902
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,240
Speaker 1: giving you the biggest questions in the Pac twelve.

903
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 2: Here we go, Colin three to one.

904
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: Let's talk Pack twelve football, biggest questions out on the

905
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: West Coast.

906
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 2: We waste no time.

907
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: The first thing I want to know is what is

908
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: Oregon's offense in twenty twenty one. I'm not talking about

909
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: the personnel or who's gonna win this position battle, but overall,

910
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: this team has a lot to be excited about. If

911
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: you don't pay attention, if you live in Raleigh, North Carolina,

912
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 1: and you don't really pay attention to Pack twelve football,

913
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: this to me is one of the best chances of

914
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 1: having one of those non traditional powers crash the playoff party.

915
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: But the thing about it is, we got to get

916
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: some of these questions answered because if Oregon is just

917
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: going to be a pretty good offense, one that's good

918
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: enough to contend for and maybe even win the Pac twelve,

919
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: But then that's about it. Well, that's nothing to write

920
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: home about it, because there's a growing gap between the

921
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: phrase Pac twelve contender versus college Football playoff contender.

922
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 2: Well, the thing.

923
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: About it is there's loaded as I remember them being

924
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: at any point, to be honest with you, at wide receiver,

925
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: you could say the same running back at least over

926
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: the last several years. And Anthony Brown is a multi,

927
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: multi multi year experience quarterback, and they've got good quarterback depth.

928
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: So this sounds like a formula for a very explosive offense.

929
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 2: That's what people are waiting on. Duck fans included.

930
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: They're waiting to turn on an Oregon game and see

931
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,720
Speaker 1: the sum total equal tour even greater than the individual parts.

932
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: If that happens, then Oregon is going to win the

933
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: Pac twelve. And if that happens, this is going to

934
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: be a team that could be a fringe noisemaker in

935
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 1: the playoff discussion. But what we don't want is we

936
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: don't want to look at all this firepower on an

937
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 1: Oregon preseason depth chart and then get out on the

938
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 1: interstate and go sixty five miles an hour. Sixty five

939
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: is good enough. It'll eventually get you where you're going.

940
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: But when we have a sports car, there's no excuse

941
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: to be doing sixty five right lane or not. There's

942
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: no excuse to only be sixty five on the interstate

943
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 1: out there. So we need to put it on the floor.

944
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: We need to see if we can hit ninety ninety five.

945
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 1: That would be a.

946
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 2: Quantum leap forward for Oregon football.

947
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:17,439
Speaker 1: Let's go to USC. USC is listed. I think as

948
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: of this moment they are a co favorite to win

949
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: the Pac twelve South are the USC Trojans. So my

950
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: question with the USC is how am I supposed to

951
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: feel about them? There's a movie The Words and Bradley

952
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: Cooper Zoe Saldana. They're out in an alley and Bradley

953
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: Cooper just drops the I'm not the man I thought

954
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: I was on her and she looks at him and says,

955
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 1: how is that supposed.

956
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 2: To make me feel? Well?

957
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 1: I'm looking at USC, and I don't really know how

958
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 1: to feel. I got a full of Bradley Cooper complex

959
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: about myself right now. I don't know how to feel

960
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,959
Speaker 1: about USC because on one hand, I'm looking at odds

961
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: Makers tell me something. I'm looking at preview magazine Culture,

962
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: tell me something. I'm looking at Heisman odds in a

963
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: fringe manner tell me things. And then when you get

964
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 1: closer on in Southern California, if you listen to the

965
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 1: fan base, they will tell you a different story. Southern

966
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: cal fans do not have a ton of confidence in

967
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: the overall direction of the program. Right now, they are

968
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: rooting for the program. It's not some toxic situation, you know,

969
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: where they are rooting for their own demise. But they're

970
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: looking and they're saying we recruiting seems to installed a

971
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: bit again by Southern cal standards, specifically at certain positions.

972
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: I'll leave it at that.

973
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 1: And then also the toughness of this team when we

974
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: watch the other big boys nationally, our talent roster may

975
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: be comparable in some cases, but the overall level of

976
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: play is not. Do we feel like we're trending on

977
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: an upward trajectory.

978
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 2: They don't all feel like that.

979
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: And so I arrive back at my question of how

980
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: am I supposed to feel about us? Am I supposed

981
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: to believe the more national hype or am I supposed

982
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: to listen to the more legitimate on the ground concerns,

983
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: Because right now, as I said, they're a co favorite

984
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: to win the PAC twelve South, which brings me to

985
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: Utah because USC is a co favorite to win the

986
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: PAC twelve South. You know who they're a co favorite

987
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: with in a Utah. As of today, even given all

988
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: the off field questions, it was still Arizona State. They

989
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: are plus two hundred each of them to win the

990
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: PAC twelve South. Now, for the record, Utah is right

991
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: behind them at plus two to fifty. But Utah, my

992
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: simple question about them is why not Utah? Look at

993
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: everything you have going for you if you want to

994
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: back Utah, which I very much am right now as

995
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: the leader in the PAC twelve South clubhouse. I've got

996
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: the Kyle Whittingham reputation been there forever at this point,

997
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: very dependable style of play on Kyle Whittingham teams. But

998
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: they've got two very good quarterback options. Cam Rising is

999
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 1: the guy who was already there. Of course they've brought

1000
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 1: Charlie Brewer in. I don't know how many more times

1001
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 1: I can hear a stat line from a spring game.

1002
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: It is impressive if you go fifteen for fifteen against

1003
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: air in a pool with a nerf ball. Having said that,

1004
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: two good options much better than none two good options there.

1005
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: But also this is the deepest he and Kyle Whittingham

1006
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: has had since he's been at Utah.

1007
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 2: He's been there a long time.

1008
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: Guys, they've had some really good teams, according to him

1009
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: and people around the program, this is the deepest they've

1010
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: been and so what does that do. Well, Obviously it

1011
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: gives them a leg up in several facets. But here's

1012
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 1: what's key. Defensively, they were a step off last year,

1013
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 1: but they got I think four or five games in.

1014
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: That's gonna be imperative. You're gonna watch Utah this year

1015
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 1: and I think you'll watch them defensively and you'll say,

1016
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: and that coaching staff will end up telling you, boy,

1017
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: I'm glad we got those five games in last year.

1018
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 1: It may not have been anything to write home about, necessarily,

1019
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: but the incremental steps that we needed this team to

1020
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: take we ended up taking this year because of some

1021
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: of the lumps that we took last year. They got

1022
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys back really good pieces. I'm very

1023
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 1: excited about Utah as of the moment. That's the team

1024
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 1: I would pick to win the Pac twelve South. Lastly,

1025
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: I want to go all the way up the Pacific

1026
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: coast all the way to Washington, and I want to

1027
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: talk about the Huskies, and I just want to ask,

1028
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 1: does Washington have enough juice offensively to do what they

1029
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 1: want to do. We've heard they may be favored in

1030
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,439
Speaker 1: every game, certainly, favored in eleven of twelve, well, ten

1031
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: of twelve, certainly, and then maybe eleven of twelve. But

1032
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: there have been some mixed results in camp up there

1033
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 1: so far. There's a lot of promise, but you know,

1034
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: you look at their offensive line and they're massive. I

1035
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: mean that certainly is a unit that you can go

1036
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: to battle with, you can rely on it to lean

1037
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: on teams. This will be an excellent team this year

1038
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 1: at playing with the lead. Is it realistic to expect

1039
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: to play with the lead the whole year? No, it's

1040
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 1: not really. And so then you start thinking about being

1041
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: able to trade points or being able to close a

1042
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: gap or come from behind on teams.

1043
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: What you need is really good receiver play to do that.

1044
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: And that's the unit with Washington that has had some

1045
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 1: early inconsistency in camp. Long way to go in camp,

1046
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: but they've had some early inconsistency there. The other really

1047
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 1: fun thing to watch is It was over on the

1048
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: Washington Board earlier today and there were some people that

1049
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: were talking about young Hewart has come in and he

1050
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,280
Speaker 1: is not immediately thrust into the spotlight.

1051
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 2: He's not running with the ones quite yet.

1052
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: And so Sam Heward came in with a lot of

1053
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: acclaim and a lot of fanfare and he's been there

1054
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: like fifteen minutes, and no, he's not running with the ones.

1055
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: He's probably more their third option at the moment. That's

1056
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: not a bad thing. It's not a bad thing at all.

1057
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 1: When a high profile guy comes in and cannot crack

1058
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: the starting rotation, it doesn't always mean he's overrated. What

1059
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: it could mean is got a couple of good options

1060
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: ahead of him, and Dylan Morris is a plenty good

1061
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: enough option for them. A Patrick O'Brien saw and read

1062
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: some good things about him today. So Washington, there is

1063
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: reason to be excited there, certainly there is. You look

1064
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: at the schedule, there's another reason to be excited. But

1065
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: the thing about it is they need a level of

1066
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: play that is not determined just on let's be three

1067
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: points better than the opposition every week.

1068
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 2: That's not how you make a great team.

1069
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 1: Man. You got to operate to a standard up there.

1070
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 1: And if you're ever gonna do what ultimately you want

1071
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 1: to do, which is whin the PAC twelve North and

1072
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: go play for a conference title, you're gonna have to

1073
00:47:55,960 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 1: have units like the receiver position take several steps, and

1074
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to have Obviously a lot of other

1075
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: elements fall into place. But Washington, just overall, that's the

1076
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: biggest doubt I.

1077
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 2: Think nationally that people would have.

1078
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: They'll look at Jimmy Lake and they'll say, I don't

1079
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: doubt a second's worth of that guy's a defensive prowess.

1080
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Speaker 1: But a guy in Jimmy Lake with the defensive background

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Speaker 1: leading program, I'll sit here and have the same questions

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Speaker 1: about him I had about Jeremy Prude at Tennessee. A

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Speaker 1: lot of people think that way. I don't blame him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Kirby Smart's a defensive guy. What are we

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Speaker 1: questioning about Georgia Still, So it's not the craziest concept

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Speaker 1: in the world to see a defensive guy's offense lag

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Speaker 1: a little bit to start their career. But Washington is

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Speaker 1: in prime position right now to do some interesting things.

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Speaker 1: I'm in prime position to get out of here because

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Speaker 1: number one, the ac is still on the fritz. And

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Speaker 1: number two, I got another podcast to do at nine o'clock.

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Speaker 1: So we really appreciate you guys watching Quick Favor. Sixty

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Speaker 1: eight percent of our audience is still unsubscribed.

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Speaker 2: I don't know you're asking, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: All I'm suggesting to you is if you would like

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Speaker 1: to keep the show free forever, then subscribe to the

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Speaker 1: YouTube channel. Does it cost you a dime and also

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Speaker 1: follow me on Twitter, Instagram at late Kick Josh. Just

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Speaker 1: these simple gestures of good faith go a long way

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Speaker 1: and keeping.

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Speaker 2: The show free dollars and free cents to you.

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Speaker 1: So thank you so much for our crew in Connecticut tonight.

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Speaker 1: We just were jet setting, were globe trotting with production,

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Speaker 1: so thank you to them. Good to have Jesse back

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Speaker 1: in the saddle for a Tuesday night here and director

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Speaker 1: Colin as always steady at the wheel in our Nationale

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Speaker 1: control room. I am merely Josh bait. They just pay

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Speaker 1: me to sit out here and talk for forty five minutes,

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Speaker 1: and I.

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Speaker 2: Have more than effectively done that, I think. So thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for watching. We'll see you back here

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Speaker 2: Thursday night.

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Speaker 1: Until then, have a great rest of your evening and

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Speaker 1: God bless