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Speaker 1: Wow, everybody, It's Tuesday, January twenty eighth, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where one of

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Speaker 1: us is drinking a large glass of haterade. It's me

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Speaker 1: and your man, MG Marcus Grand joined by Michael Florio

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Speaker 1: and Lakwan Jones.

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Speaker 2: Floria.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to your thoughts on the weekend in a

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Speaker 1: little bit. I know you're still uh, sort of looking

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Speaker 1: your wounds. Understandably, you're a little bit radio silence in

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Speaker 1: the text chat the last couple of days, which I

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Speaker 1: totally understand, Like I totally get it. I know you

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Speaker 1: were in New York for a wedding and then flying

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Speaker 1: back and everything. Uh, lak Wan, I will say this.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know that your team, you know, had

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Speaker 1: a tough loss week before. As somebody who was a

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Speaker 1: neutral observer, it was an enjoyable week. It was an

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Speaker 1: entertaining weekend, right, Like it was sort of nice to

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Speaker 1: just sit back and watch it because I couldn't met

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Speaker 1: and watching really either of those games. If if I

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Speaker 1: had a rooting interest, that would have been excruciating.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the sitting part was fun. Like you know, when

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Speaker 3: the Rams are playing, we all know that I'm standing

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Speaker 3: two inches from the TV screaming at it, like are

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Speaker 3: you that?

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Speaker 2: Are you that person?

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Speaker 3: Oh? I am that person? Yeah, one hundred percent, that

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Speaker 3: is me. Playoff games on that way as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so it's so good to sit back, relax, you know,

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Speaker 3: roof for my boy Floria. You know, I wanted the

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Speaker 3: Bills to win also, but I don't know if I

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Speaker 3: believe you. Wait, no, I don't believe yeah, playing that text.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so just for background, you know, we're all we

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Speaker 1: are in a text chain and we're communicating before the games,

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Speaker 1: and uh Laqwan basically said I should probably find the

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Speaker 1: actual text, but essentially you implied that you wanted the

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Speaker 1: Bills to go to the super Bowl and lose. Uh

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Speaker 1: is what it was, which is like, look, man, if

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Speaker 1: you have those intrusive thoughts, that's fine.

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Speaker 2: But maybe don't let them out next to a Bills fan.

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Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Right before the game too, literally right before checkoff. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that was bad time by me.

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Speaker 2: I promise you.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't meant for me what it was. And I

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Speaker 3: read it later and I'm like, oh, yeah, I didn't

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Speaker 3: mean that, brother. I get it because I do that

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Speaker 3: a lot too.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'll send a text and I'll be like, oh,

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Speaker 4: they're gonna take that differently than how I I meant

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Speaker 4: to say it.

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Speaker 3: I just left it at that. I was like, no,

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Speaker 3: he's probably gonna be so focused and pissed off.

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Speaker 1: All right, So here was the Here was the actual text.

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Speaker 1: It says, let's go Bills. Damn it would hate to

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Speaker 1: see this historic run by Saquon got to waste just

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Speaker 1: to be cheated in the Super Bowl. And I was like,

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Speaker 1: wait a minute. So basically you want the Chiefs to

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Speaker 1: lose and then the Eagles to beat the Bills. Like

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Speaker 1: all right, I mean that's fine if that's how you feel,

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Speaker 1: but maybe just don't say that with.

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Speaker 2: Florio like being able to read it.

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Speaker 3: That's all players mess up. Jersey Boys stick together.

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Speaker 2: I get it. Then.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, we will get into that game. Obviously, we'll talk

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Speaker 1: about the NFC Championship game. Plus we'll continue our exit

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Speaker 1: interviews Pick seven team through twenty. We are flying right

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Speaker 1: along as we get ready to start pivoting our focus

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Speaker 1: to the draft. What is it I think the phrase

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Speaker 1: is using is recalibrate your eyes. I saw that in

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Speaker 1: a couple of places on social media, recalibrate your eyes,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, some of us wear glasses.

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Speaker 2: Let's not talk about that now.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with some headlines because we had We've had

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Speaker 1: some coaching moves in the last few days since we

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Speaker 1: last spoke to you all. The Jaguars we're trying to

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Speaker 1: hire Liam Cohen. Liam Cohen said, I'm not going there,

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Speaker 1: So the Jaguars are like, hey, Balki hit the bricks.

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Speaker 1: Hey Liam Cohen, come on in. So the former offensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers is now the new

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Speaker 1: head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Lakwan you said you

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Speaker 1: had you saw the rundown, and you're like, oh, we're

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Speaker 1: getting the hater stuff out of the way early. I

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Speaker 1: know how you feel about Trevor Lawrence. I'm curious than

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Speaker 1: what this Liam Cohen, who was a former Rams assistant.

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Speaker 3: He's part of the tree.

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Speaker 2: What this means in your mind for trev and the

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Speaker 3: The bars high bars high man coming from the McVeigh tree,

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Speaker 3: I mean, you have to find success, and that's kind

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Speaker 3: of been the trend set for some other guys that

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Speaker 3: we won't mention. But more so, if he cannot fix

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Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence, can we just ultimately agree that Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 3: is not that guy. If he can't go there and

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Speaker 3: fix that with the weapons he has around him, I

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Speaker 3: don't think the problem is going to be any coach

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Speaker 3: paid that hefty contract. So let me put on my

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Speaker 3: buck nasty, the nastiest hater of two thousand. I just

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Speaker 3: feel like, if Trevor Lawrence can't go out there and

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Speaker 3: perform at a higher level, this will literally be my

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't know, Floria.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like we've all gotten past the

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is that guy now. I think most of

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Speaker 1: us are center on Trevor Lawrence is a jag. He's

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Speaker 1: just a guy at this point.

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Speaker 3: Wow, he literally is a jag. But the fantasy street

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Speaker 3: say otherwise, Fellas, please bro I've been inside, man, I

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Speaker 3: ain't been outside. I have no idea marks outside.

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Speaker 2: I ain't been outside. I had no idea that people

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Speaker 2: were still on it like that.

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Speaker 4: No, I for one him not like there's a zero

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Speaker 4: percent chance. I think he gets drafted as a QB

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Speaker 4: one next year, Like I top fifteen is even in question,

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Speaker 4: I'd argue, I mean, quarterback does thin out quicker than

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Speaker 4: in the past. But I agree with Leakwalam, like this

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Speaker 4: fantasy purposes, for NFL purposes, Like I know his contract

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Speaker 4: is going to get him a couple more years as

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Speaker 4: the starter there, but like if he doesn't produce with

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Speaker 4: Liam Cohen and two years from now or three years

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Speaker 4: from now, whatever it takes, like they let go of

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Speaker 4: Liam Collen, they're going in another direction. That's probably also

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Speaker 4: the end of the Trevor Lawrence tenure in Jacksonville, i'd imagine.

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Speaker 4: So this is kind of his last chance, but take

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Speaker 4: it like to put it on the other offense. This

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Speaker 4: for Baker Mayfield in the Bucks in three years, so

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Speaker 4: that offense keeps getting people hired.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully Dave can Allis had success going to Carolina. Maybe

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Speaker 3: maybe Liam, But did you guys see Liam Cohen's duval

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Speaker 3: It was the worst thing, awkward and embarrassing, cringe.

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Speaker 2: It's just not a great start, not a great start.

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Speaker 3: Low the frequency is not happy right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm sort of skeptical on this move just because, look,

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Speaker 1: maybe it works out right and Liam Cohen is ready

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars or any team really, right, I just am

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Speaker 1: a little bit skeptical of a guy who has been

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Speaker 1: the one really pulling the strings on that whole thing, right,

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Speaker 1: So granted, look, it was amazing to watch what Baker

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Speaker 1: it to one guy when Mayfield and the Bucks are

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Speaker 1: just this feels like it feels like the Jaguar is

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Speaker 1: sort of jaguarring right, like they waited forever to move

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Speaker 1: hire in there. They get the guy who is the

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Speaker 1: hottest name left on the market and they make the

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Speaker 1: move on it.

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Speaker 2: I just and I'm not rooting against.

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Speaker 1: I don't have any skin in the game, but it

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Speaker 1: just feels like this is It's like you say, you

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Speaker 1: did your paper the night before, you know, and now

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Speaker 1: you're turning it in and hoping that everything works out.

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Speaker 2: And I just I'm skeptical.

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Speaker 4: I think it's it's all about Trevor Lawrence in my opinion,

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Speaker 4: like because I don't think this was a spot where

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Speaker 4: like you want to bring in like like saying Mike

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Speaker 4: Raybrowll or a Bill Belichick, a Pete Carroll something like that,

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Speaker 4: where those guys are more like motivators defensive minded coaches.

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Speaker 4: I think you you wanted the best possible offensive scheme

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Speaker 4: you could get, because not only do we all think

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Speaker 4: Lawrence was generational and they took him first overall, they

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Speaker 4: also paid him a bunch of money, which is why

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Speaker 4: I thought this landing spot was not one of the

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Speaker 4: better ones like other people thought. But if Liam Cohen

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Speaker 4: can get Trevor Lawrence to play anywhere close to the

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Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence we thought he would be, then this is

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Speaker 4: all worth it. And if not, you're hitting the hard resets.

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Speaker 2: So I did.

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Speaker 4: Giving you one more last ditch effort to get the

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Speaker 4: most out of Lawrence.

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Speaker 2: Is worth it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't know how many hard resets.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it's infinite, right. The Jaguars can

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Speaker 2: Just man, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: They don't have it out until twenty twenty nine on

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Speaker 3: his deal.

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Speaker 2: Great, so they're locked in. I mean they're locked in

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Speaker 2: with the Trevor Lawrence for a while.

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Speaker 1: Sofully dude like that. Man, I'm gonna I'm gonna. I

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Speaker 1: have to remember this so I can start using it

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Speaker 1: on Fantasy Live next year.

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Speaker 3: We need it as a drop duo.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of it, you mentioned Pete Carroll.

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Speaker 1: Florio and the Raiders have hired Pete Carroll to be

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Speaker 1: their next head coach. He will be the league's oldest

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Speaker 1: head coach in league history when he turned seventy four

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Speaker 1: in September. Look, Pete is a guy with boundless energy.

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Speaker 1: I mean he will work over a piece of gum

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Speaker 1: like nobody's business, you know, and like he's good to

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Speaker 1: line up every now and do a drill. But Florio,

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Speaker 1: he's seventy four. He's been out of coaching for a

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Speaker 1: couple of years now our year, I guess now, and

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Speaker 1: he's going to roster That is really kind of a mess.

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Speaker 1: Their quarterback, the quarterback of the future, is not there.

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Speaker 1: They've got running back issues. They've got you know, they

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Speaker 1: got brock Bowers. We'll see if they have Max Crosby.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know, we're still waiting to see what

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Speaker 1: the rest of the coaching staff is gonna look like.

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Speaker 2: They're in Las Vegas. But I don't know.

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Speaker 1: And I love Pete Carroll, right, he did great things

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Speaker 1: at my alma mater for a number of years. I

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Speaker 1: can't get excited about Pete Carroll in Las Vegas, can you?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: No, Because as great as he was in Seattle, won

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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl, like you said, did wonders with USC

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Speaker 3: Look at his last three years in Seattle once they

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Speaker 4: So uh, Carol, One thing is for sure, the Raiders

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Speaker 3: I don't know about you, guys. I don't think Carol

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Speaker 3: But I'm more excited for the antics that are already

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Speaker 2: At least maybe, so, Like I get it.

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Speaker 1: This is Las Vegas, right, this this feels like your

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Speaker 1: all it means, Like it's silver and black. Right, let's

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, so many things.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, they got brock Bowers. You know, Jacoby

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Speaker 3: He's like, I'm the oldest coach in the NFL history.

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Speaker 1: But by the way, shout out to the AFC West

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Speaker 2: They're like, to hell with it. We're gonna be the

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Speaker 1: Last bit of coaching news, the Dallas Cowboys have made

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Speaker 1: I loved by the way, the the quote from I

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Speaker 1: It was something to the effect of he's been a

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Speaker 1: just like, hey man, so like you, we're gonna move

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Speaker 2: Like that's what it felt like my hiring Brian Shott. Wow. Right, Like,

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Speaker 3: Hey, that's a big promotion. Man, I've worked for that's

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Speaker 2: So now now we're gonna let you lock up at night.

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Speaker 1: Like, hey, dude, congratulations, here are the cheese.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly what this felt like.

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Speaker 1: Please please look on make me excited about Brian Schottenheimer

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Speaker 3: I absolutely cannot do that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like, I look, I know Cowboys fans, so

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, dude, I have no words for you.

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Speaker 3: Like I try to give him, you know, a little

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Speaker 2: That's an enough to me on a hook.

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Speaker 3: It's not moving for them. It's bad. My uncle won't

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Speaker 2: He's not happy.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not good out there, man.

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Speaker 1: I mean, has Skipped Bayless thrown the same jersey in

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Speaker 1: to that you pull it out?

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Speaker 3: Pull it out?

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Speaker 2: He's he gonna do the same.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna walk into the kitchen, we're gonna throw it

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Speaker 3: You're gonna hear his wife say, okay, we're recording. At

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, because.

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Speaker 3: He is Pete Carroll's age, he doesn't know how to

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Speaker 4: So wow, I'm looking at his career as an o

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Speaker 1: And that was that was the year where Dak had

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know why I said the Rams. That

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Speaker 3: To me, this just says Jerry Jones.

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Speaker 4: Wants to a coach that he can have the year

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I mean Brian Schottenheimer was.

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Speaker 1: I think the expectations is he's something of a figurehead

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Speaker 3: Just the Cowboys, right, the stories developed.

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Speaker 2: That's the story. That's the story.

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Speaker 1: excited about for next year?

439
00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,600
Speaker 3: Next year? I think this draft they have to address

440
00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,159
Speaker 3: the wide receiver to a consistent wide receiver too. You

441
00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,440
Speaker 3: love Deanny Brown his emergence end of the season big time,

442
00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,640
Speaker 3: you know, in the playoffs, but more so, like I

443
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,720
Speaker 3: am excited for the Commander's offense as a hole for fantasy,

444
00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,200
Speaker 3: just being that Jayden dans is the quarterback, Like that's

445
00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:32,920
Speaker 3: one of the things that you want to mark off

446
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,480
Speaker 3: a hit in that draft, or like do they have

447
00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,760
Speaker 3: a good quarterback? Do they have an awesome offense?

448
00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:37,080
Speaker 2: Yes?

449
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,560
Speaker 3: Check check check. So once they bring in a guy

450
00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,600
Speaker 3: like a wide receiver two that I think that could

451
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,479
Speaker 3: be you know the counterpart of Terry McLaurin, because obviously

452
00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,680
Speaker 3: you're drafting scary Terry. It's like you're just overall excited

453
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,000
Speaker 3: for this offense developing for what it is, because this

454
00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,719
Speaker 3: is his rookie year, getting to the NFC championship, and

455
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,000
Speaker 3: he's been playing like he's a veteran, Like it's insane.

456
00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,800
Speaker 3: So it's a you know, as a commander's rand, you

457
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,639
Speaker 3: would be happy and excited for next season, but for

458
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,160
Speaker 3: more so fantasy, I'm gonna be taking my picks as

459
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,159
Speaker 3: I can because I can see these guys being a

460
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 3: discount because again, everybody's paying sophomore slump. Nah, I don't

461
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:11,640
Speaker 3: think that's happening to with JD.

462
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't know if I worried Florie

463
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,960
Speaker 1: so much about the sophomore slump with Daniels, but it

464
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,880
Speaker 1: really is, like, okay, so obviously we're drafting Daniels, we're

465
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,640
Speaker 1: drafting McLaurin. Like, how much are we really buying into

466
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 1: zach Ertz who was their number two pass catcher this year, right,

467
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 1: I mean he's thirty four. We're gonna be thirty five

468
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,640
Speaker 1: next season, you know. I know people took some late

469
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,159
Speaker 1: dart throws at Ben Sinnett, who had that nice catch

470
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 1: on the fake punt in the game, but Ryan Robinson

471
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,359
Speaker 1: was okay, I mean above expectations, but just okay, Austin

472
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 1: Eckler looks like the decline is probably underway right now.

473
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 1: I just don't see any other real targets besides Daniels

474
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,639
Speaker 1: and McLaurin in this offense that I want for next.

475
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 2: Year as of now. A lot.

476
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 4: It's gonna change, I think, because the Commanders have the

477
00:21:56,119 --> 00:22:00,159
Speaker 4: third most cap heading into free agency, so I I

478
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 4: think if you are them, you're thinking exactly what we're saying. Like,

479
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 4: Jayden took us to the NFC Championship game and a

480
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 4: year where we were coming off having the number two

481
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 4: overall pick, and like I know, early in the year,

482
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 4: a lot bounced their way. You had the Hail Mary

483
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 4: against the Bears. You had a number of plays that

484
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 4: just were like, Okay, this is probably not sustainable. But

485
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,119
Speaker 4: then at the end of the year, I thought Jayden

486
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 4: took another step forward and his processing, the way he

487
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 4: was seeing the field was incredible to the point where

488
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 4: I think he is already a top five not fantasy quarterback,

489
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 4: because that's a lock. I think he is a top

490
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 4: five real life quarterback. And that's saying a lot because

491
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 4: the top four are already a slam dunk. You ask

492
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 4: anyone they're gonna give you the same four names. So

493
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 4: I think he's better than everyone. Maybe it's like Hayman

494
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 4: Hurts or something like that, battling for that fit spot.

495
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think you get him a little bit

496
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 3: more help on offense and you're good to go. But yeah,

497
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 3: I felt so bad for him because he had this

498
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 3: team in this game three he fumbles by other players

499
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 3: that were lost. That just took any chance he had

500
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 3: of winning that game away. But I thought he impressed

501
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 3: me so much as playoffs and they'll be back better

502
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,439
Speaker 3: next year. Although you guys were bigger on him than

503
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 3: I was, Like what happened to Brian Robinson this year?

504
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 3: Because it looked like halfway through the year he just

505
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 3: he lost all of his capability of how to run injuries.

506
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 3: What was it? His knee, his ankle? I mean that

507
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 3: he was going through it like he was just bruised up.

508
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that had a lot to do with it,

509
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 1: because he just, you know, he started out great. I

510
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 1: mean to the point that we were like, oh, I guess,

511
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 1: I guess Austin Echler is just not going to be

512
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,119
Speaker 1: a thing. But he had knee issues, he had hamstring issues.

513
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 1: I think that just sort of took its toll over

514
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 1: the course of the season. That and the fact that

515
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: once Jaden Daniels took off, there was just less reason

516
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,479
Speaker 1: to really lean on him.

517
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Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think he prepared for a long season.

518
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 3: Let's just say that.

519
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 2: I don't. I mean, look, let's be honest.

520
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 1: I mean I know that, I know that in the

521
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 1: building they'll talk about it like, hey, this is our goal,

522
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: but I think realistically, like, yeah, no, I need to

523
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 1: talk At the beginning of the year, was you know,

524
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 1: the battle for the basement of the NFC East is

525
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:14,360
Speaker 1: it the Commanders isn't a giant, so you know, yeah,

526
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: the Eagles were supposed to be there. We thought the

527
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 1: Cowboys would be better than it turned out to be.

528
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 4: I've already seen people saying like this was the Commander's

529
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 4: one chance, and I'm like, no, if you have a

530
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 4: top quarterback like this, your your window is as open

531
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 4: as as long as Jaden is playing at this level.

532
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,439
Speaker 3: Ten years you got with JD. And that is a

533
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 3: finger I'm.

534
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 2: Not gonna go.

535
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 1: I'm not going ten. I'm not ready to put ten

536
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 1: years on it right now. That's that's you know, how

537
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 1: long ten years is, bro.

538
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 3: Like, yes, my son is eight now I'm almost We're

539
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,679
Speaker 3: not even ten years into the Lamar Alan Burrow errors. Okay,

540
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 3: like I'm putting. I'm putting twenty on ten right now

541
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 3: that I'm hotting, I'm potting. This is what I call

542
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 3: if he says healthy.

543
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just looking at the like the top five,

544
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: some of the top movies in twenty fifteen, right, I

545
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 1: mean San Andreas, right, the Transporter refueled, not even the

546
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 1: original Transport, like one of the multiple sequels, like the mark.

547
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: Ten years is a long time bro, That's all I'm saying.

548
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 4: When when you said ten years ago, like I was

549
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,199
Speaker 4: like twenty ten and I'm like ten years ago, so

550
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 4: like you know, like my brain doesn't, twenty fifteen is

551
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 4: ten years Like the Mets were in the World Series

552
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 4: ten years ago.

553
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is crazy to a long time bro.

554
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 4: Ah.

555
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: Okay, So Chiefs thirty two Bills twenty nine, Michael left Florio,

556
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 1: The Flora is yours.

557
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 4: My thoughts are pretty much the same as what they

558
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 4: have been at the end of each of the last

559
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 4: three Chiefs since. Okay, in twenty twenty, the Chiefs whooped

560
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 4: the Bills the Bills.

561
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 2: Were there a year early.

562
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Speaker 4: I don't count that one. The three sents, the thirteen

563
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 4: seconds last year in Buffalo, and then on Sunday, they've

564
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:57,360
Speaker 4: all come down to the same thing.

565
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 3: In my opinion, Uh.

566
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 4: The narrative is going to be that Alan cannot beat Mahomes.

567
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 4: And look, maybe I'm biased and stuff like that, but

568
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 4: I watched those three games and I'm like, you're gonna

569
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 4: tell me that the reason the Bills lost these games

570
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 4: is because of seventeen. Like I know, look, he did

571
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 4: not play great in the first half this week. He

572
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,959
Speaker 4: was definitely way too antsy. He had a couple of

573
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 4: bad throws that got away from him, but then he

574
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 4: had a couple of amazing plays to throw the touchdown

575
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 4: to mccollins, the one inside the five to mac collins,

576
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 4: the deep throat of Khaliel Shakir. And I know people

577
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 4: are mad about the Toush push and stuff like that.

578
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 4: I don't think people realize how much success the Bills

579
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 4: had with the Toush push this year. Like it was

580
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 4: legitimately unstoppable. It was a free first down every time

581
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,239
Speaker 4: they did it, or a free touchdown every time they

582
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 4: did it. The Chiefs are just smarter and they are

583
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 4: just better. They loaded up on the left side because

584
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 4: something I've said a lot is like Josh Goo's left

585
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 4: every single time, and the Chiefs were prepared for that.

586
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 3: But then you had Gregory.

587
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 4: Russo and I believe it was Torrents on the O

588
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 4: line came out and they both and well defensive player,

589
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 4: both were like We've never seen some of the stuff

590
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 4: the Chiefs have done before. Like that, I think Andy

591
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 4: Reid and Spags are the greatest coaching duo that I've

592
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 4: ever seen together because like what the Patriots, it was

593
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 4: all Belichick and the coordinators kept changing. Spags is a

594
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 4: genius and is a huge portion of the success. Chris

595
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 4: Jones is the best defensive playoff performer I have ever seen.

596
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 4: He had seven QB pressures in the first half alone.

597
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 4: The Bills had three as a team. He has worth

598
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 4: more than that entire Bills D line. And this is

599
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 4: something I've said for a while now. McDermott, I'm not

600
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 4: even on the I was in the past. I think

601
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,360
Speaker 4: he has improved, and even more than that, I don't

602
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 4: think there's any better options out there, so I don't

603
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 4: think they move on. But he has shown us time

604
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 4: and time again that Andy Reid is going to run

605
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 4: circles around his defense every single time they meet up

606
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 4: in the playoffs, and then the supporting cast I think

607
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 4: shows up even more so. While Mahomes is the best,

608
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 4: he's on him and he's chasing Brady, everyone else is

609
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 4: chasing Mahomes.

610
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 3: I agree with that.

611
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 4: To me, when you compare these teams, the gap at

612
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 4: quarterback is so much closer, in my opinion, than it

613
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 4: is at coach. It is on defense and it is

614
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 4: on special teams. So, yeah, the Bills got beat. I

615
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 4: did think it was a first down.

616
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 3: I was very annoyed that the first ref spotted it

617
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 3: as a first and then they changed it, and yeah, like,

618
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 3: I know why people are mad about the refs. There's

619
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 3: that played.

620
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 4: There was the catch, which I thought was ridiculous, like

621
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 4: if both guys are fighting for it, it hits the ground.

622
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 4: To me, that's as incomplete as incomplete could be. You

623
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 4: had holes on special team that punt return. They gave

624
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 4: them a free second to take it to the two

625
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 4: minute warning.

626
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 2: Like what was that about?

627
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 4: So I see why people are upset about the refs,

628
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 4: But this did not come down to the refs. Josh

629
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 4: Allen had a chance to win the game. Steve Spagnola's

630
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 4: defense showed up up. But if Dawn Kinkaid catches that ball,

631
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 4: we are talking about that being the best throw of

632
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 4: Josh Allen's career. And then you see the end zone

633
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 4: angle the next morning it comes out and it's like, Yo,

634
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 4: that was a great throw. Like Kinkaid was there, it

635
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 4: hit him off the hands, and I tweeted, I was like,

636
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 4: time is a depressing flat circle because last season against

637
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 4: the Chiefs, Josh Allen made the throat of Stefon Diggs.

638
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 3: That went through his hand. He made the throat to

639
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 3: Trent Sherfield that went through his hand. So like, while

640
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 3: the narrative is that the quarterback can't get the job done,

641
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 3: to me as someone who watches it extremely close, and

642
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,479
Speaker 3: my hands were sweating, my knees were shaking on that

643
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 3: final drive like it's everyone else, in my opinion, more

644
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 3: so letting Josh down than it is Josh letting the

645
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills down.

646
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 2: I think that pretty much covers it.

647
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: I'll say this, I saw something from Pat Doherty, Rotto Pat,

648
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: who I thought summed up with Sean McDermott, is basically

649
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: like you know, he's like in the past, I think

650
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: you could.

651
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 2: Put some of the losses on Sean McDermott.

652
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: Probably not necessarily this, but have the Bills reached the

653
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: point of hey man, maybe we risk a downgrade, but

654
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: maybe it's time just to see what somebody else can do,

655
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: which sort of sounds like where you've been with McDermott

656
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: for a while now.

657
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 3: Yes, I think the thirteen second game, which again like, oh,

658
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 3: Alan can't beat Mahomes, let's not rewrite history, like he

659
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 3: did not leave the field that they lead with thirteen

660
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 3: seconds left and never touched the ball. Again like, yes,

661
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 3: he can beat Patrick Mahomes. He's done it more than

662
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 3: anyone has.

663
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 4: I think that moment has poisoned McDermott in the locker

664
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 4: room until this season, I felt like McDermott finally made

665
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 4: all the adjustments that we wanted. I don't think he'll

666
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 4: ever be able to beat Andy Reid. I've lost faith

667
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 4: in that.

668
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 3: Like, I know, we could say this isn't on him,

669
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 3: but the Chiefs scored eight season high points in this game.

670
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 3: The Chiefs have averaged thirty five per game against the

671
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 3: Bills in the playoffs. The d lion continues to not

672
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 3: show up every time they play. But I was down

673
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 3: to make a change when it was like we could

674
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 3: bring in Ben Johnson or someone like that that I

675
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 3: thought maybe could put us over the top. I who's

676
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 3: out there, like Bill Belichick? I I think he one.

677
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 4: It's all futile as well. They are not firing Sean McDermott.

678
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 4: I can guarantee you that today. So yeah, they're going

679
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 4: to be back next year. I'm hoping they make a

680
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,959
Speaker 4: lot of changes because they finally have cap and stuff

681
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 4: like that. But I until they I'm at the point

682
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 4: now where until they beat the Chiefs, I'm sure next

683
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 4: season I'll be like this is it's different this year.

684
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,239
Speaker 4: But right now I'm like, yeah, the Chiefs have deserved it,

685
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 4: like they But what I was saying to Lakwan before

686
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:35,959
Speaker 4: the show was like, the Bills are going to take

687
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 4: it on the chin this week, But point to me

688
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 4: the team that has beaten Patrick Mahomes in the playoffs.

689
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: I mean, Lakwan, of the three of us, you're the

690
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: only ones sitting here whose team has not been victimized

691
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: by Mahomes in the postseason.

692
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 3: Thankfully, Thank you, Jam You should thank Loamo for that.

693
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 2: Literally, like you're the only ones.

694
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: You're the only team of the three of us who

695
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: have not been victimized in the postseason.

696
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 3: I don't have that secret hatred forms. I just don't

697
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 3: want the Chiefs to hit the three people.

698
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: I don't think for most of America it's hatred. It's

699
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: just fatigue. Yeah, I think I think everybody's just tired.

700
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 3: I think it's more. I think it's getting to hatred

701
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 3: because of like the whole ref narrative and right or wrong.

702
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 3: Please point to me the last significant crucial call that

703
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 3: didn't go the Chiefs with against the Patriots in twenty nineteen,

704
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 3: like or twenty eighteen whenever that was. It's all politics, man,

705
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 3: there's politics in sports. It is what it is. He's

706
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 3: on the right side of it.

707
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 2: I like my job at the NFL.

708
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: Anyway, we will obviously next week we'll dive into the

709
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: Super Bowl matchup. I know it's the one that I

710
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: think most of America least wanted to see, but it's

711
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: what we got.

712
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 2: So we're gonna die to that last week as well.

713
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, we're gonna say, breaking back to our exit

714
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: interviews were still stuff to dive it those be a

715
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: beefy first block. We'll get into the rest of it

716
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: here just a second on the NFL Fantasy Football Show.

717
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: All right, now that we've had that moment of Catharsis,

718
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: we get back into the business of exit interviews as

719
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: we dive into picks seventeen through twenty coming up here

720
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: in the NFL Draft, which I was reminded by the

721
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: way it's in Green Bay. I've never been to Green Bay, Wisconsin.

722
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: I hear it's lovely, especially if you're a Packer fan.

723
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: I feel like being outdoors in Green Bay, Wisconsin in

724
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: April might not be great.

725
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 2: But what do I know.

726
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 3: They got cheese curves. Apparently they're good.

727
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 2: Hey man, I'm not knocking cheese curves. Man. The Canadians

728
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 2: see what they were doing with poutine. That's all I'm saying.

729
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: Let's start the pick number seventeen with the Cincinnati Bengals.

730
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 2: What went right?

731
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow absolutely, especially in the latter part of the season.

732
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: I just shy of five thousand passing yards, forty three touchdowns,

733
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: nine interceptions. He was the QB four Jamar Chase over

734
00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,719
Speaker 1: seventeen hundred receiving yards.

735
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 2: He was the wide receiver.

736
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: One, Lakwan, I know you have said you are not

737
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: under any circumstances taking a running back in the first round.

738
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: Is Jamar Chase here one dot zero one?

739
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 2: Yes, he is?

740
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 3: By default consensus. Probably we get closer to summer, it's

741
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 3: one on one Jamar Chase.

742
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 1: All right, Well, he was fantastic. I don't think a

743
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: lot of people are gonna fight with you on that one.

744
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 3: I think that's my safest take in the last couple

745
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 3: of years.

746
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: He's gonna be one of the more lukewarm takes out there,

747
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 1: if you would be like, yeah, okay, sure. Chase Brown

748
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,720
Speaker 1: had more than thirteen hundred scrimmage yards. He had eleven

749
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: total touchdowns. He was the RB ten. Te Higgins, who

750
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,439
Speaker 1: was banged up at times this year when he was healthy,

751
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: has certainly played well seventy three catches, nine hundred and

752
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: eleven yards, ten receiving touchdowns. He was the wide receiver

753
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: twenty two. The things that went wrong Zach Moss, who

754
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 1: was not playing particularly well at the beginning, Vin had

755
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: a neck injury and went on the IR after nine games,

756
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 1: finished as the RB fifty. So Florida, I know te

757
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: Higgins is out there free agency. Joe Burrow has certainly

758
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: made the point that he wants him to come back.

759
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure Bengals fans would love to have him back.

760
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: But if he does not come back, does that one?

761
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: Does that lock in Jamar Chase as the undisputed one,

762
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: dot one and two?

763
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 2: Who else would we look at in that passing game?

764
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 4: Yes to the first question, I think I think Jamar

765
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 4: Chase is because his numbers with him without T Higgins

766
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 4: are like, they're all always good. He's Jamar Chase, He's

767
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 4: got Joe Burrow at quarterback, but I would be surprised

768
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 4: if Ti Higgins is back. Bengals are eleventh and cat,

769
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 4: but they still have to pay Jamar Chase, and obviously

770
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 4: they need to add to that defense because you could

771
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 4: have all of these guys, but if you can't stop anyone,

772
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 4: your season's gonna probably look like it did this past year.

773
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 4: I think I think the Bengals shown us what their

774
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 4: intentions were last year when they drafted Jermaine Burton. I

775
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 4: think he was supposed to be the one that takes

776
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 4: over for T Higgins. Then it wins about a year

777
00:35:58,680 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 4: as you could have for him.

778
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna guess that their number two target is

779
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 3: not currently on the roster, either they draft a wide

780
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 3: receiver or they signed someone. But I would be surprised

781
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 3: because of not just of their situation, but because te

782
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 3: Higgins is the crown jewel at the wide receiver position

783
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 3: this year, like he might get twenty five million a

784
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 3: year or something like that. So I don't think it's

785
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 3: gonna be the Bengals.

786
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 4: And to me, my like, obviously we need to know

787
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 4: where he ends up and stuff, but I do I

788
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 4: think he takes a bigger hit potentially than Jamar Chase

789
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 4: going because he's been having the number two corners on

790
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 4: him for a while now and all that attention that

791
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 4: Chase gets, it's gonna be the exact opposite if he

792
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 4: goes somewhere.

793
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 3: And is the number one.

794
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: Note to self, do not spin fourth round pick on

795
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: andre Yoshivas.

796
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 3: The dude will have eight touchdown catches though.

797
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: Fill a whole bunch of suxchdown catches, but like you know,

798
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 1: forty forty receptions that will be it.

799
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 3: But that just goes more so of like why they

800
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 3: should pay t Higgins, Like they should break the bank

801
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 3: for both him and Chase, because there's no real replacements

802
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 3: out there. I mean, not even a Cooper Cup can

803
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 3: even fill in T higgins shoes if he was to leave.

804
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 3: And it's like, you have all these older free agents.

805
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 3: You have Elijah Moore, you have Keenan Allen. I mean,

806
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 3: look Van Jefferson, like DeMarcus Robinson, Darius like these are

807
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 3: available options for free Okay. One of those wide receivers

808
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 3: did not belong in that group. Yeah, I mean, look

809
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 3: I just did in order that I'm like, no.

810
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 2: I'm just read it.

811
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 3: But more so it just goes to the case like

812
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 3: there's no real replacement even in this draft to replace

813
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 3: T Higgins because we all know he's a one elsewhere.

814
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 3: Like the Bengals are in a situation, a rare luxury

815
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 3: situation to have two wide receiver ones on the same team,

816
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 3: So why would you want to break that up for

817
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 3: another project? In the draft where Jermaine Burton failed, like

818
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 3: I would have PTSD with that. You know he had

819
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 3: a character issue, but still it's a young, developing rookie

820
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 3: wide receiver you're coming in to fill the shoes of

821
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 3: a Tiggins. There's no way we see Joe Burrow play

822
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 3: at the level he's played last season. Without T Higgins,

823
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 3: even with Jamar Chase, You're gonna get fatigue, You're gonna

824
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 3: get injuries. We're overworking him. Like, I just feel like

825
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 3: it will be a huge mistake if they let T.

826
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 3: Higgins walk out of that building, like you fix the cap.

827
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you would think so, right, But this is

828
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 1: also the Bengals that are notorious for not necessarily breaking

829
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: the bank on guys. That has been that has been

830
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: the franchises moo pretty much forever. Maybe they change it

831
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: this year, or maybe they try to go after another

832
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,399
Speaker 1: cheap option. Now, the Jermaine Burton thing was probably one

833
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 1: we should have seen coming more than we did, because

834
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: that was the reason he fell in the draft. So

835
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: it was it was a surprise, first of all that

836
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: the Bengals drafted him where they did, because you know,

837
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 1: the expectation was he might fall to day three at

838
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: some point. And then on top of it, you wondered, Okay,

839
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: well do they have the personnel, do they have the

840
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: sort of the system in place to kind of get

841
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: his mind on try And it would appear that the

842
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: answer is no. I mean, let's just be honest, right,

843
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: I Mean, he was on and off the field, he

844
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 1: was getting suspended. He was not you know, he was

845
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 1: getting left at home on road trips stuff like that.

846
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: So like they obviously didn't have the system in place

847
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: to make sure that he was the professional they needed

848
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 1: him to be. What this means for his future, I

849
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: will say, doesn't look good and it does make you

850
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 1: wonder whether or not because considering the depth of wide

851
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: receivers coming out of college every year, whether or not

852
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: the Bengals take another swing at it when you figure

853
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: they have not a ton of investment in Jermaine Burton

854
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 1: at this point.

855
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 4: Really, Jamar Chase said prior to the year, he wants

856
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 4: more than justin Jefferson, and then he went out and

857
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 4: had won the Triple Crown, like he's gonna get over

858
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 4: thirty five million year, I think, And if t Higgins

859
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 4: is gonna get over twenty a year, I mean, two

860
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 4: teams do it. The Eagles and the Dolphins are paying

861
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 4: two wide receivers over fifty million a year, but these

862
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 4: two guys would probably be over sixty.

863
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: And that's one of those two team just going to

864
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,280
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. The other one is sort of figuring

865
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: out what went wrong this year.

866
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 3: So the formula is there, though.

867
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 1: Your results may vary on that. Before we move off

868
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 1: to Bengals real quick, lukwan uh. Chase Brown? Can he

869
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,919
Speaker 1: be a top ten running back again next year?

870
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 3: Something tells me they're gonna invest, They're gonna they're gonna

871
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 3: go out there and bring a guy in. I mean,

872
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 3: Zach Walts was supposed to work, but he got hurt.

873
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 3: So the emergence of Chase Brown really happened with you know,

874
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 3: him getting injured. I mean, the weird accusation of a

875
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 3: Khalil Herbert that never really happened. But I just feel

876
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 3: like he can be the guy if they don't go

877
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 3: to the draft and bringing the guy or free agency.

878
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 3: But I honestly think they're gonna bring somebody in.

879
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I like Chase Brown. I like him

880
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 2: a lot.

881
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: I was end up getting the workload he did just

882
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: by circumstance, and I'm with you, I sort of wonder

883
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: whether or not they're gonna do that again coming up

884
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 1: this year for sure.

885
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 3: A good draft for it, good draft.

886
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: For it, we'll see. Let's move order to Seattle Seahawks

887
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 1: because they are the eight team. They were ten and

888
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: seven last year. I should have mentioned, by the way,

889
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,240
Speaker 1: the Bengals were nine and eight. See Seahawks ten and seven.

890
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 1: What went right for sure Jackson Smith and Jigbo, who

891
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: really elevated himself from the number three receiver to by

892
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: the end of the year was kind of the number

893
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: one receiver. Hundred ketches over eleven hundred yards, six touchdowns,

894
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 1: wide receiver seven. That being said, Floria, where we draft

895
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 1: in Jasn next year? Round three? Is that reasonable?

896
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 4: My first thought was round four? So in that range,

897
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,439
Speaker 4: I would love him so much more as a two.

898
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 2: Zero.

899
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 3: Part of me wants him as my one.

900
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 4: And that's not so much about him as one who's

901
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 4: gonna be calling the plays.

902
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 3: Right, like, we gotta see that two. Is it gonna

903
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 3: be Gino again? I know Gino had it was a

904
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 3: very mixed bag year.

905
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 4: Like he had a lot of yards, not a lot

906
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 4: of touchdowns. I love Jaysn as a prospect coming out

907
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 4: all of that. He is also the only Seahawks receiver

908
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 4: I really what would want. But yeah, it's much more

909
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 4: as a two and it's very price dependent. Just it's

910
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 4: more about his quarterback and his offense though than it

911
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 4: is him, because I believe he is insanely talented.

912
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 2: But I just.

913
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 3: I also have a little bit of pause if Seattle's

914
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 3: going to change their approach because last year they were like,

915
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 3: we're gonna throw downfield, We're gonna run a quick, tempoed

916
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 3: offense and everything. There's a defensive minded head coach there.

917
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 3: They didn't make the playoffs. I wonder if he's gonna

918
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 3: be like, I want to put things more on my

919
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 3: side of the ball and control the clock more and

920
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 3: stuff like that rather than trying to sling it around

921
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 3: the field.

922
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: Well, they did hire Clint Kubiak as their offensive coordinator

923
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 1: coming from New Orleans.

924
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 2: So I mean, zero pers are excited. There's nothing about it.

925
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 2: There's nothing exciting about it.

926
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: But also, I mean just so many things went wrong

927
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: injury wise in New Orleans too that I don't know.

928
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: I feel like that's when we really got to take

929
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:55,919
Speaker 1: a deeper dive into and sort of.

930
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 3: They started off hot though, I mean they were.

931
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: They were the hottest thing on four legs at the

932
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: start of the season, and then everything went sideways.

933
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, but who do they It was like the Giants

934
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 3: and like the Panthers or something like.

935
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 2: That, Panthers and Cowboys.

936
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, they scored a combined ninety one points in

937
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: their first two games, and then I think it took

938
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: them like a month to score ninety one points combined

939
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: after that.

940
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 2: So the things that went.

941
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: Wrong though in Seattle, DK, it wasn't the things went wrong,

942
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 1: just a lot of things wentn't meh right, DK Metcalf

943
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 1: was wide receiver thirty five, just shy of one thousand yards.

944
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker did not have the healthiest season he got

945
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: you just just shy of nine hundred scrimmage yards, had

946
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: eight total touchdowns. Gino Smith, you mentioned to Florio, you know,

947
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 1: not a ton of touchdowns, a decent number of yards

948
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: forty three hundred yards, twenty one CDs, fifteen, interceptions QB fifteen.

949
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 1: So I asked, where you're drafting jsn Lakwan, Where are

950
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: you drafting DK next year?

951
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 3: Me personally, I'm not. But in my mock I got

952
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 3: him in the fourth round and I have at three

953
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 3: h nine and that's like right next to Marvin Harrison junior.

954
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 3: But I don't know if DK brings that appeal with

955
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 3: this new offensive coordinator either, Like it's it was just

956
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 3: a lot of frustration on the sidelines this season, Like

957
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 3: it was just a lot of confusion now you're bringing

958
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 3: in another offensive coordinator, which I won't say he's not proven,

959
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 3: but we just haven't seen him, you know, put you know,

960
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 3: belt the butt you know on the offense on a

961
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 3: consistent basis. You know, like it's only the two games

962
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 3: that we could really have high hopes for and it's

963
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 3: like this one will probably be a lot of play action,

964
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 3: a lot of motion you know, going on with JSN

965
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 3: hopefully if that's how they utilize him. But if this

966
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 3: offense can get up and going, like you know, you

967
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 3: might want to take the discount on DK if you

968
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 3: are interested on drafting him. Because he didn't have one

969
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 3: of his best seasons either, No, I.

970
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 2: Mean he really didn't.

971
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: I mean again to the point that by the end

972
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: of the year, we all looked at Jackson Smith in

973
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: but as the wide receiver one there in Seattle. So

974
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: it does mean that you know, Metcalff is coming at

975
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: a discount, is he?

976
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 2: Though? I say fourth round, Like, I don't know how

977
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 2: much of a discount that is, right, Well.

978
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 3: If it's gonna be a heavy wide receiver draft when

979
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 3: most straps were this season, I mean, some of these

980
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 3: guys get pulled up to a round that seems nasty

981
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 3: on paper, but I want no part of the look.

982
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 3: It's because I let myself get sucked.

983
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 4: In last year after saying at the end of the

984
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 4: season prior, like, yeah, I'm probably not taking DK anymore.

985
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 4: I let the new OC and everything. He one time

986
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 4: in his career he's been top twenty at wide receiver

987
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 4: in points per game.

988
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 3: Like, so him getting.

989
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 4: Drafted outside the top twenty is taking him where he's

990
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 4: finished every year but one in his career. So, like,

991
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 4: I get that the upside is there, but I like

992
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 4: DK is what DK is. In my opinion, most games

993
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 4: are gonna he's very up or down. He's gonna have

994
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 4: a game where he catches like three touchdowns for it

995
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 4: goes for one hundred and fifty yards, and then he's

996
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 4: gonna have a bunch of down weeks. And I don't know,

997
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,240
Speaker 4: like maybe it's.

998
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 3: Just because he's driven me crazy over the years, but

999
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 3: like I'm kinda like, I don't I don't want to

1000
00:45:58,400 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 3: do this again.

1001
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: No, I think the other part that you have to

1002
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 1: talk about is we've seen the absolute ceiling for Gino Smith.

1003
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: That twenty twenty two season was his absolute ceiling.

1004
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 2: Forty two hundred yards thirty touchdowns.

1005
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: Right since then he's throwing twenty touchdowns and then this

1006
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: past year was twenty one touchdowns. So you also have

1007
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 1: to ask yourself, can Gino Smith support two wide receivers

1008
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: at a really high level?

1009
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 2: And I think the answer is not really. I think

1010
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 2: he can get you.

1011
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: He can maybe have a wide receiver one and then

1012
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: a wide receiver too, or you can get you two

1013
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: high end wide receiver twos. I think that is sort

1014
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: of the best case you could expect out of Geno Smith.

1015
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: He's not going anywhere obviously, anytime soon, so this is

1016
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: going to be your quarterback for the time being there

1017
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: in Seattle, barring injury or him just completely imploding. I

1018
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 1: don't see that second part happening, so and I don't

1019
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 1: wish for the first thing. So I think this is

1020
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: sort of what it is when you look at that

1021
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 1: Seahawks offense. For sure, take a break, come back. We

1022
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: got two more teams to talk about in our exit interviews.

1023
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:02,720
Speaker 1: NEI will wrap this one up here on the NFL

1024
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: Fantasy Football podcast. Drafting at the number nineteen spots. It's

1025
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They were ten and seven this

1026
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 1: past year, made it to the postseason. Baker Mayfield again

1027
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: a thing that went right. Forty five hundred passing yards,

1028
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: forty one passing touchdowns.

1029
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 2: He was the QB five.

1030
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: Mike Evans did it again, one thousand and four receiving yards.

1031
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 1: Shout out to the Bucks for on their very last

1032
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: offensive play of the regular season, in a game that

1033
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: they already had won, lined up and ran a wide

1034
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: receiver screen to Mike Evans to get him over that

1035
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: thousand yard mark. I think that was the thing that

1036
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: universally we all were like, yeah, man, that was great.

1037
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: Like I feel like sports social media just universally was like,

1038
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: that was awesome. Thank you so much for that wide

1039
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: receiver thirteen. Despite missing a handful of games with injuries,

1040
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: Bucky Irving was a revelation this year. Over eleven hundred

1041
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: rushing yards nearly four hundred receiving yards. He was the

1042
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 1: RB fifteen.

1043
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,240
Speaker 2: So, knowing Florio that.

1044
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: That running backs are probably getting pushed down the board

1045
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 1: a little bit, where are we drafting Bucky Irving?

1046
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 2: See third round? I mean whybys seem really really high

1047
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 2: on him right now?

1048
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, But I do think if it depends on what

1049
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 4: their offense looks like, next year and who the oc is.

1050
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 4: I was thinking third fourth round, like late third, early

1051
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 4: fourth round, but Rashad White is He's what we thought

1052
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 4: he was like. He is not a good runner. He

1053
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 4: could be utilized as like a pass catcher, but his

1054
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,240
Speaker 4: existence there is a thorn in this side of Bucky

1055
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 4: Irving because he will take some of those very valuable

1056
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 4: targets away, which Bucky has the potential to be an

1057
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 4: RB one. But if Rashad White is there and playing

1058
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 4: third downs in two minute drills and stuff like he

1059
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 4: was this year, then I think it kind of caps

1060
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 4: Irving as like a high end ur that I'll have

1061
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 4: some RB one weeks. But even more than that, it's

1062
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 4: what we keep talking about. The first two rounds are

1063
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 4: probably gonna be a ton of wide receivers, so more

1064
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 4: of these fringe like I could see him going similar

1065
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 4: to where like and I'm not saying he's gonna have

1066
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 4: the same season as him, but think back to like

1067
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 4: Travis Etn last year, where he was a third round

1068
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 4: pick in most drafts, but in some wide receiver heavy drafts,

1069
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 4: he'd see him slide a little bit. I could see Bucky.

1070
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 3: Going in that sort of range next year.

1071
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: From Week twelve, which is the week after their bye,

1072
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: to the end of the season three week eighteen, he

1073
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: was the RB six, averaged just over eighteen points per game.

1074
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 2: Did Bucky Irving?

1075
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: I mean, people seem really really excited about him, and

1076
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: I've seen people talk about he's already one of the

1077
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: best running backs just pure running backs in the league.

1078
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: But as you mentioned, yeah, yes, a new offensive coordinator

1079
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: and Rashad White still there.

1080
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna throw out some names. Tell me when

1081
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 4: when you would stop and you would take Bucky Irving. Okay,

1082
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 4: Jamior Gibbs, Saquon Barkley, Bijon Derrick, Henry, Devon ah Chan,

1083
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 4: Josh Jacobs, Hyan Williams, James Cook, Alvin Kamara, Chase Brown,

1084
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 4: James Connor, and Jonathan Taylor. Those were the twelve running

1085
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 4: backs maybe at Camara, maybe that's eight you would definitely

1086
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 4: take ahead of them, I mean, just because of what

1087
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 4: potentially is coming in New Orleans this year, because that's

1088
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 4: sort of a mess.

1089
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 2: What about Breece Hall, I'm taking Breece over Bucky.

1090
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 3: I'm taking Brace. What about Devon A.

1091
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 2: Chan.

1092
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 3: That's where I got him in my mock right next

1093
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,479
Speaker 3: to a Chan at that three oh seven, three oh eight, I.

1094
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 4: Think I still take a Chan over Bucky Irving. A

1095
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 4: Chan was a top five running back this year. I'm

1096
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 4: taking him all day.

1097
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I still think I still take a Chan over

1098
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 2: Bucky Irving.

1099
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 4: And he did that with two a missing time. I

1100
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 4: think a Chan is gonna be a top two round

1101
00:50:58,280 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 4: pick easily.

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00:50:59,040 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1103
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,280
Speaker 1: With Tua he was lights out, So yeah, one hundred

1104
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:07,280
Speaker 1: percent doing that anyway. That gets us to who will deliver?

1105
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: Presented by Uber Eats. One of the things that did

1106
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: not go well for the Buccaneers was Chris Godwin.

1107
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 2: Mostly just because injuries.

1108
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: Ankle injury put him on ir after just seven games

1109
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: fifty catches, five hundred and seventy six yards, five touchdowns.

1110
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: He ended up as the wide receiver fifty one this year.

1111
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: But he is a free agent, you know, and we'll

1112
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: see whether or not he decides to walk or if

1113
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: he sticks in Tampa Bay. But lakwan, if he does

1114
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 1: not re sign with the Bucks, what does this mean

1115
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: for Jalen McMillan, who we loved and who came to

1116
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: life late in the season, especially catching touchdowns. Could he

1117
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: end up being the twenty twenty five version of JSN.

1118
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: If Chris Godwin is not there.

1119
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 3: I would pump the brakes on that just with the

1120
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator change. And you know, I think a lot

1121
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 3: of what was installed for him, and it worked for

1122
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 3: him because he mirrored kind of what Chris Godwin had

1123
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 3: for him with Liam Colin. And I think, you know,

1124
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 3: I have to just be realistic here, being that I

1125
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 3: could see him finishing outside the top forty, top fifty,

1126
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,879
Speaker 3: you know, wide receivers, because there's just an unknown there

1127
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 3: of what's going on. I just feel like, you know,

1128
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 3: he had an awesome rookie campaign on the back end

1129
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 3: of the season, but we need to be realistic if,

1130
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 3: like with these changes, is he still going to be

1131
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 3: the same players He's still going to have that same

1132
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 3: opportunity because if Chris Godwin leaves, there's still going to

1133
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 3: be a holder that they need another reliable wide receiver

1134
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 3: who says that they're going to be done.

1135
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: Adding, Yeah, I mean I think that's sort of it.

1136
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 1: I mean, but that being said against loyal no Chris Godwin.

1137
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 1: In our hypothetical here, McMillan, is he a top twenty

1138
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 1: five wide.

1139
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,720
Speaker 2: Receiver, top thirty? Where are you looking at top thirty.

1140
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 3: I think I'm excited for him because I think what

1141
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 3: teams are starting to do nowadays is they're drafting the

1142
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 3: replacement a year before that other player leaves. And I

1143
00:52:56,440 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 3: think McMillan was brought in to kind of behind Godwin

1144
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 3: this year, which he did until Godwin got hurt, and

1145
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 3: then he really stepped up. I think the Bucks know

1146
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,720
Speaker 3: that there's a good chance that they lose Chris Godwin

1147
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 3: this year.

1148
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 4: Now they want him back, and if he comes back,

1149
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,280
Speaker 4: this changes everything because he'll be playing ahead of McMillan still.

1150
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 4: But if he leaves, I think even if the Bucks

1151
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 4: bring in another wide receiver, McMillan could be that slot guy.

1152
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 4: He's already excelled in that role. Him and Baker clearly

1153
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 4: have the chemistry. The OC determines a lot. But I

1154
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 4: think the fact that we've seen this Bucks offense perform

1155
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 4: now with numerous offense coordinators.

1156
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 3: Now, they've both been great in Canalis and Cohen. But

1157
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 3: if they bring in another sharp offensive mind, I think

1158
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 3: this offense could stay afloat and could keep getting especially

1159
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 3: Mike Evans as great as he is, he's getting close

1160
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 3: to that age cliff, so there could be a potential

1161
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 3: scenario where McMillan ends up sooner than later being their

1162
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 3: wide receiver.

1163
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:50,879
Speaker 2: One.

1164
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, Mike Evans is going to be

1165
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: thirty two when next season starts. Definitely not old old,

1166
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: but look man, he's He's had one thousand yards eleven

1167
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: straight years. At some point it does come to an end, presumably,

1168
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: and so you do have to sort of start to

1169
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: prepare for that moment when it does come. I'm willing

1170
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: to take the shot, and as a top thirty receiver

1171
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:18,280
Speaker 1: on McMillan, I think the rapport that all the pieces

1172
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 1: have together with Baker and Evans, and see what Baker

1173
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 1: and McMillan did last year kind of makes you optimistic,

1174
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: even without knowing who the play caller is going to be.

1175
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 3: You know what's fantasy guys are sucker for young players.

1176
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, we always love shining new things.

1177
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 3: I'm out noy Hey, hey hater?

1178
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 2: All right?

1179
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: Anyway, that was Rule Deliver, presented by Uber Eats, where

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Speaker 1: NFL Order. Now our last team in this edition of

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00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: the Exit Interviews, the number twenty pick in this upcoming

1184
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 1: draft belongs to the Denver Broncos. They were ten and seven. Bonnicks.

1185
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: One of the things that went right. I think we

1186
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: all became bow Lievers at some point during the season.

1187
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: Three seven hundred and seventy five passing yards, twenty nine touchdowns,

1188
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: twelve picks. Also four hundred and thirty rushing yards and

1189
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: four rushing touchdowns. Even had a receiving touchdown this year.

1190
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: But Nick's a bit of everything.

1191
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 2: QB nine, so that was great. But lakwan, are we

1192
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 2: really drafting bow Knicks as at QB one next year?

1193
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 3: Yes? Wow, yes, yes I am. I don't care about

1194
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 3: who else is on this trend, but I am just

1195
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 3: going to take that confidence because they're just going to

1196
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 3: add to that offense. If they add Chris Godwin, then

1197
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 3: we're so in right, like we will be so in

1198
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 3: on bow Knicks. If they add a wide receiver for

1199
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 3: that caliber, you're adding more weapons to the offense. The

1200
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 3: old line was one of the best out there. He's

1201
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 3: best to create on his feet. Like, I'm just super

1202
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 3: all in. I'm the biggest bowliever. If there was a

1203
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 3: Justin Bieber, Like, what is it? The believers? I am

1204
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 3: one of them. Yeah, Yeah, I'm so standing for bo

1205
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 3: Knicks in twenty twenty five.

1206
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: I thought I was a true bow leiever, but maybe

1207
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: I'm not. Where do you fall on this florio.

1208
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 3: I am not in nearly as Look, I'm excited for

1209
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 3: bo Nicks.

1210
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 4: I thought what he had his rookie year was phenomenal.

1211
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 4: But and maybe this is I could easily be wrong

1212
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 4: on this. I think of all the rookie quarterbacks, bo

1213
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 4: Nix is the closest to his ceiling in this league

1214
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 4: because twenty four years old, five years in college, and

1215
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 4: I know you could say Jade and Daniels did all

1216
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 4: of that as well, But I felt like watching bo

1217
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,320
Speaker 4: Nicks this year, like he did phenomenal in the system

1218
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 4: and what he was asked to do. But I thought

1219
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 4: a lot of it was the fact that he's in

1220
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 4: this system and Sean Payton and everything.

1221
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 3: So that's all gonna be back next year. But I'm

1222
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 3: wondering what, Like, I'm more concerned.

1223
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 4: About his sophomore slump with him as well, because teams

1224
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 4: are gonna now look at the tape figure out what

1225
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,240
Speaker 4: he does well and stuff like that. At no point

1226
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 4: did I watch both like I watch jayde and Daniels

1227
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 4: play and I'm like, this kid is amazing. He is

1228
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 4: the future. I watch bon Nicks play and I'm like,

1229
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 4: the future is bright and den They found their quarterback

1230
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 4: of the future here. But at no point was I like,

1231
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 4: this kid is one of the gonna be one of

1232
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 4: the best in the league. So I think, like to me,

1233
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 4: I think the up side. That's why I said a

1234
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 4: couple weeks ago, like I'd rather have Drake May. I

1235
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 4: think there's more upside there. I'd rather have Kleb. I

1236
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 4: think there's more upside there. But I think bow Knicks

1237
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 4: gets drafted as a QB one. The issue I have

1238
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 4: is I think some people are gonna pull them up

1239
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 4: too high up the board and start taking them closer

1240
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 4: to QB five than QB twelve, and that's not something

1241
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 4: I could get behind.

1242
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: I think my evaluation of bow Knix was, hey, this

1243
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: turned out better than I thought it would.

1244
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 2: I mean, that was that was sort of it.

1245
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 1: And I think even then it was mostly from a

1246
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: fantasy perspective, like, obviously he helped them get into the playoffs.

1247
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: They squeak in at ten and seven, you know, obviously

1248
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: they get rolled by the Bills. Really, no shame in

1249
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: that for the Broncos because I think you were sort

1250
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: of ahead a schedule. But I think in terms of

1251
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: actual football, let's look at the division. I mean, you know,

1252
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: the Raiders we talked about and they're sort of a

1253
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: mess right now trying to figure things out. But when

1254
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 1: it comes to quarterbacks in the AFC West, we know

1255
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 1: you're taking Mahomes ahead.

1256
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 2: Of bow Knicks. That's not a question.

1257
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: You're still taking Justin Herbert ahead of bow Knicks, right, yes,

1258
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 1: right right, in terms of actual football. Now I'm not

1259
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: talking about fantasy but actual football. Yes, yes, I don't

1260
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 1: have Justin Herbert then bow Knicks. So that being said,

1261
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 1: the Broncos right now, the best hope is to continue

1262
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: to sort of squeak in as a wild card.

1263
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 2: And I'm with you Florio.

1264
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: I think I think we sort of he's not at

1265
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: the ceiling yet, but you know, if he stands up,

1266
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: he's gonna bump his head.

1267
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 2: Yes, I like that, So I mean that's I think

1268
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 2: that's sort of where we are.

1269
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton eighty one catches over a thousand yards, eight

1270
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: receiving touchdowns, even had a passing touchdown. He was wide

1271
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: receiver fifteen. I feel like Courtland Sutton's just one of

1272
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: those guys who's sort of steady. You know, there's not

1273
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 1: really much to get to really talk about. He's a

1274
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 1: nice player.

1275
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 3: Aaron McLaurin.

1276
00:58:58,280 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not.

1277
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: You're not gonna you're not breaking a bank for him,

1278
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 1: but you know you're not upset about having him on

1279
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 1: your roster.

1280
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 2: That's sort of where we are there. So what went wrong?

1281
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 1: So written down here is Javonte Williams five hundred and

1282
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 1: thirteen rush yards, three hundred and forty six receiving yards

1283
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 1: RB thirty one. I feel like we could have oscol

1284
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: also just put Broncos backfield and that would have been

1285
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 1: there equally correct.

1286
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 2: Look on, we're not drafting of Broncos back next year,

1287
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 2: are we? We're just not.

1288
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 3: I can't muster up, you know, a hype trained to

1289
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 3: do that. I mean no, I mean not even if

1290
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 3: they hit the draft and they hit one of the

1291
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 3: running backs I like, or they bring into my own

1292
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,919
Speaker 3: free agency, no, like, I just don't want any parts

1293
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 3: of it. It was a very very hard, you know,

1294
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 3: decision making when you have all your estimate and Javonte

1295
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 3: Williams on your roster and you're just like, well, I'm done.

1296
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 1: It was the lesser of two, honestly, med but it's

1297
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 1: less than them Florida.

1298
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 2: I mean Javonte five.

1299
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: Hundred and thirteen rush yards, Jeel mcgloff in four ninety

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Speaker 1: six estimate three to ten.

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Speaker 2: There's just nothing there to be excited about.

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Speaker 3: It was awful, like it It was worse if you

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Speaker 3: lived it then if you look at.

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Speaker 2: Those results, because as.

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Speaker 4: Someone who had a decent amount of Javonte Williams, because

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Speaker 4: I was like, yo, he looked good in the preseason

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Speaker 4: and he's going as like an RB.

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Speaker 3: Three and I'm going wide receiver heavy. So the only

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Speaker 3: week it was fun was the week.

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Speaker 4: They played the Saints on Thursday Night football, and I

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Speaker 4: sat him because he had done nothing up until that point.

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Speaker 4: So like, that's kind of what this backfield is. There's

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Speaker 4: no rhyme or reason to it. Remember, for weeks, Payne

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Speaker 4: was like, we gotta get autric estimate more involved than

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Speaker 4: he had that one game where he had like twelve

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Speaker 4: carries or whatever, and then the next week he had

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Speaker 4: no touches.

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Speaker 3: Like it's just maddening and frustrating. And then Jalio he

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Speaker 3: sprinkled within all that chaos, and it's like, what am

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Speaker 3: I supposed to do with this?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: By the end of the year, when I.

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Speaker 4: Was writing starts, sit, I get to sit running backs,

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Speaker 4: and I would just autumn.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn'tven look at the matchup. I would just write

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Speaker 3: Broncos running backs, and I want zero percent to do

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Speaker 3: with that backfield next year.

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Speaker 2: You should just send yourself time.

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Speaker 1: You should have just been like, sit Broncos running backs,

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Speaker 1: you know why, and then just moved on to the

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Speaker 1: next one.

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Speaker 3: Right, and you know, well, Jamonti is a free agent though,

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Speaker 3: so maybe he things and you get back on there.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a wrap for him, at least in

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Speaker 2: any any major role.

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Speaker 4: Remember when him and Michael Carter, Him and Michael Carter

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Speaker 4: are gonna be like the future coming out of UNC.

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Speaker 3: Michael Carter gets spelled by Ty Johnson.

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Speaker 2: Nice. Yeah, just yeah.

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Speaker 1: At this point, I mean, Javonte, he's gonna be heading

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Speaker 1: into year five. He's had injuries, he hasn't played well.

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Speaker 2: I just maybe.

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Speaker 1: Somebody signs him, but he's never gonna get a huge role.

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Speaker 1: It's never gonna be what we wanted it, what I

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Speaker 1: wanted it to be.

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Speaker 2: Raiders, would you be interested if the Raiders. No, not

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Speaker 2: really offense, no, because they got agent and that hurts a.

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Speaker 3: Chan but well, oh yeah, you're right.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean like it just sometimes we just gotta

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Speaker 1: just say, this wasn't meant to be. And I think

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Speaker 1: with Javonte just it just wasn't meant to be.

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Speaker 3: Apparently, I see Marcus heart slowly breaking.

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Speaker 1: It is man, I just because I had so I

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Speaker 1: was so excited. And when he got drafted by the

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Speaker 1: Broncos and they had Melvin Gordon there, I had a

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Speaker 1: sad and Adam Rank talked me out of it and

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Speaker 1: it was like it's gonna be fine, and I really

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Speaker 1: tried to buy into it. It was an rookie year.

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Speaker 1: He had nine hundred rushing yards and I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: things are gonna be fine. And then, for whatever reason,

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton treats Davonte Williams like he kicked his dog

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Speaker 1: or something like.

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Speaker 2: I don't really get.

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Speaker 3: Goodness for Marvin Mems. I guess the future.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's nice to know that he and Sean Payton

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Speaker 2: have been introduced to one another. That's good. It took

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Speaker 2: two years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh you were in a last year when oh

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Speaker 1: ye're like, you know, last year was like Sean Payn's

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Speaker 1: we should get Marvin Memes more involved. It was the

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Speaker 1: Tom rat was it was that sim Robinson in a

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Speaker 1: hot dog suit. Like we're all trying to find a

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Speaker 1: guy who did this, Like you're the guy who could

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Speaker 1: put him on the field.

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Speaker 2: Do it worked up at the end of the show,

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Speaker 2: this is not supposed to happen.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go I'm gonna drink some water with some

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Speaker 1: limon in it. I'm gonna calm down. I'm gonna get

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Speaker 1: ready for the next show on Thursday. We'll continue our

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Speaker 1: exit interviews and uh, I don't know, we'll do some

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl something.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Figure out how to fill in the

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Speaker 2: rest of the show.

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Speaker 3: Let's go outline and do some activities.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they should go out and see what's going happen

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Speaker 1: in these fantasy streets. I've been inside. All right, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna wrap this thing up. That'll do it for this

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Speaker 1: edition at the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, they happy, saveing ld,

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Speaker 1: do good and live well. I enjoyed the next couple

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Speaker 1: of days, folks. We'll talk to you on Thursday. A