WEBVTT - Rachel Kaly Disobeys Bridger 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:14.440 But I invited you here. I thought I made myself 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:21.239 perfectly clear. When you're a guest to my home, you 0:00:21.400 --> 0:00:27.240 gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guests, 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:30.160 Your presences presents enough. 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:35.920 I already had too much stuff, So how do you 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:38.240 dare to surbey me? 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:54.400 Welcome to I said, no gifts. Temperature wineger. We're in 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:57.920 the backyards. This is a rare occasion. We're out here. 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:02.200 The sun is slowly raising the temperature. I'm going to 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:07.120 be uncomfortable. Ah, what's going on? I have three buckets 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:10.360 of gravel to move in the driveway, which is you know. 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:13.720 I'm saving that for myself, a little special something for later. 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:17.800 It's nice to have something to live for. And I 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:20.360 have weekend plans. So that's my weekend plan, is moving 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:24.080 three buckets of gravel. Or maybe I won't. Maybe I'll 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:25.800 let us sit there for three more weeks and then 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:27.480 I'll get wet from the rain, and then I'll have 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:31.400 to wait again. This is the this is my life, 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:33.600 this is what we're doing. I'm living at one hundred 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:37.680 miles per hour. The birds are loud. I don't think 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:40.480 there's any business we have to talk about, which is incredible. 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:43.479 We should just get into the podcast. I love today's guest. 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:47.160 It's Rachel Kayley. Rachel, welcome to I said no gifts, 0:01:47.400 --> 0:01:50.640 thanks so much. How are you feeling about the temperature 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:51.080 so far? 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:54.120 Well, there was just a breeze that was quite nice, 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:57.360 but I'm definitely not looking forward to it. 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:03.320 This is actually not too uh. It's a nice little 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:04.480 refresher every few minutes. 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:07.800 It's completely lovely when it happens. When it's not happening, 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:08.960 it's not amazing. 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:12.120 You're kind of just begging for it to come back. Yeah, 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:13.360 what have you been doing this week? 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:20.040 Oh my god? Well, the truth is I'm spending a 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:24.680 lot of time on my phone, which I'm sure. Yeah, Unfortunately, 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:27.880 I'm allowing myself to Oh and I'm not meaning to 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:31.080 plug right up top. Okay, but I am in season 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:32.600 two of Jury Duty. 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:36.080 But that's why you have to get on there and 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:38.959 you have to post clips. You've got to post things. 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:40.000 You've got a career. 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:43.640 Oh, I'm letting myself look and refresh, look and refresh 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:45.680 all hours, hours hours. 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:48.680 Are you looking for the likes likes follows? 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:52.200 Is it from a verified account? Is someone dming me 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:54.400 to tell me something amazing? Do they have something mean 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:57.000 to say? Looking at comments at times? 0:02:57.240 --> 0:02:58.519 Have there been any mean things? 0:02:58.680 --> 0:02:59.240 Definitely? 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:01.440 Do you interact with mean people? 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:05.640 You know, I don't mind it, like I would like to, 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:08.520 But the issue is I don't know if they will 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:11.320 then come for me. Like I'm like, it's a little 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:13.280 like when you're yelling at someone from a car and 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:14.480 you're like, do they have a gun? 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:15.639 Right? Right? 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:18.239 That's how I feel about interacting with mean comments. 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:20.240 Right. If it was like an even back and forth 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:22.880 of meanness, that would be fine. Yeah, Like, yeah, that's 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:25.280 what I worry about sometimes too. If I go back 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:27.800 at them, then God knows what they have planned. 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:30.640 I mean, they're just waiting for the dam to burst. 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:33.240 Right, and they have full access to attack. Yeah, and 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:34.880 I can only kind of just comment. 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:36.720 Back, right, Have you had a mean really mean? 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:39.559 Oh? I get lots of mean things, but I never interact. 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:42.800 I mean, I kind of the feeling of power for 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:46.160 me is to make that person just feel unbelievably alone 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:48.480 in the world by not getting any response. 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:48.840 Right. 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:51.160 I just want to talk to them all face to face. 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:53.640 That would be nice because I think. 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:56.400 You know, it's the anonymity that is an issue, but 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:58.320 also no worries. 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:03.440 The other thing that I think contributes to some of 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:05.640 this is some people. I think some people know they're 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:08.360 being made. Some people are absolutely horrible. Yeah, some people 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:14.480 just do not know how to process their thoughts through writing, right, 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:16.800 And so I think that they're just like this seems 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:18.960 like a fine thing to say to another person, because 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:22.600 they don't really know how to modulate. They're new to 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:26.960 journaling truly, because most people are bad at writing. Ye, 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:31.159 bad at just I mean like typing, you know, like 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:34.480 like that. Yeah, they're bad at that. Like they barely 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:36.880 made it through high school. And so then they get 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:38.920 online and they have access to be able to write things, 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:40.040 but they never really figured it. 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:44.400 Out, right, I mean absolutely, the democratization of it all. 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:46.480 Who's to say if it's for good. 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:49.440 I think it's ultimately for the adis of their worst. 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:52.640 Yeah, we're just gonna have to see, I think. 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:54.560 I think, well, I think we're going to see probably 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:57.039 sooner than later. I know. I think it's like we're 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:59.839 finally coming to a head a little bit with some 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:04.040 thing is gonna break, Yeah, but I don't know what's next. 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:06.560 It's like when you're in a video game and the 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:08.640 thing breaks and you have to jump to the next thing. 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:11.200 I wonder what the next thing is. 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:13.920 Right, Like the little thing is like in the lava 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:15.640 and that you jump on it, and it's like you've 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:16.960 got three seconds and you have to get to the 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:19.360 next thing exactly. I think God knows how long that'll 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:21.680 last or might be a really long platform walk. 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:24.440 I mean, who's to say. That's what it's feeling like 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:26.520 more and more every day. 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:29.320 Right, So you're online, you're looking for the likes, You're 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:31.920 looking for the verified users. We all know verified users 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:33.640 now are almost meaningless nothing. 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:37.080 I'm looking these guys have four hundred ninety seven followers. 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:40.799 I'm gonna kill myself. That's horrible. 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:45.159 At four hundred followers, Why do you decide I now 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:46.640 need to be verified? 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:49.719 Well, I am looking at them because the digress is 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:52.279 just like here, so it's bringing eyes. But it is like, 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:56.680 I don't understand. I don't know the point myself. 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:58.359 Because it brings eyes. But then the person looking at 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:00.560 you is now just annoyed with you and thinks even 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:03.320 less of you as a person. Right, It's never like, Wow, 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:06.039 look at these horrible photos they took of their family. 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:07.760 I've got to get on board with this. 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:10.240 Yeah, it's just like I don't understand, but I am. 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:13.640 I'm doing a deep dive. A lot of them have businesses, 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:14.440 they're trying. 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:18.640 To start right right, but again it's just like difficult. 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:22.640 Just make a decent business, take some decent photos and 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:26.600 game the system that way. Imagine do they hand out 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:28.919 verification at this point or is it all purchased? 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:31.640 No, you can. Not to brag, but I got it. 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:35.600 But I applied. I was like, this is like I 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:38.680 had been applying for years. I had a similar thing 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:41.640 with Rayah, the dating app, where I did it way 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:45.960 too early. I applied to Rya in twenty sixteen college. 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:48.920 Those were like that's when they may have had celebrities 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:49.400 on there. 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:52.120 Well exactly, And I just was like, well, I'm doing 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:56.200 comedy in New York, so let me give it a shot. 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:57.680 And now I can't get on it. 0:06:58.279 --> 0:06:59.000 Why can't you get it? 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:01.200 Because I tried to early and they won't let me 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:05.960 like update, even though I add referrals of like, you know, right, 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:10.160 real people, they're not. They're like, oh, she's too desperate. 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:11.640 It's like a one time thing. 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:14.040 Well it's not supposed to be. I don't understand what 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:16.480 the issue is. But I did have that thing with 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:19.400 Instagram too, where I kept because they asked for like news. 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:22.080 Articles about it. Right, It's very odd, and I kept. 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:23.880 Putting in the same ones because there were no new 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:26.120 ones coming up for many years and they were just 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:28.640 like stop. But they finally gave it. 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:31.440 But those were news articles. What was the problem with 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:31.920 those ones? 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:34.080 Well, they were written about me when I was like 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:35.560 quite young. 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:39.520 Oh so they would have verified you as a child. Yeah, yeah, 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:43.240 or now an Instagram teen right, exactly. I would love 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:45.240 to have an Instagram teen account. It sounds like so 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:45.800 much fun. 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:48.680 I need, like I need guardrails. 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:51.720 I think everyone does. Yeah, I think that I've said 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:53.160 this before. I feel like there should be some sort 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:56.040 of test and then maybe you like get certain powers 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:59.040 for sure, and like certain abilities. 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:00.720 To use like posting or even like. 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:06.480 Posting, commenting, liking, sharing, because earn it. Yeah, you have 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:09.480 to earn it. Not everybody knows how to do it. No, 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:11.560 not everyone should be trusted with that response. 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:13.960 But I feel grateful for the people who don't know 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:16.440 how to do it and still do it, you know 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:16.920 what I mean. 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:18.200 They're more fun to watch. 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:21.640 Yes, Like that's what all my reels are I guess 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:24.840 it's like people turning on the camera forgetting I see 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:27.280 you know, yeah, it doesn't matter. 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:30.400 The reels that I enjoy most are probably people who 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:33.320 would not pass the test, right exactly, Then what am 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:36.480 I looking at? My competent friends? Yes, and that's anything 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:37.280 to do with it. 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:38.480 No one watches any. 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:42.040 Of this, No, absolutely no. They will want to see someone, 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:44.160 you know, kind of losing their mind in the mid 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:49.120 West exactly. Yeah, that's I'm sorry to hear. Are you 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:51.800 going to get back off once the promotion cycle's over. 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:55.960 I'm not sure what's going to happen to me. I 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:59.559 don't know what to say. I don't know. I really 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:01.160 don't know. I've been thinking about this. 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:04.120 What were you doing prior to I was trying. 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:08.079 To curb my usage. I had like deleted TikTok, Twitter's gone, 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:12.080 But now it's all back right and I'm on it 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:16.120 and I feel crazy. And then I saw this study 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:18.800 that just came out that shows like even two weeks 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:22.200 off your phone like makes your brain like ten times healthier. 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:23.160 Do we believe it? 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:26.080 I'm believing it. They had him like hooked up to 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:29.280 all this stuff they were testing, like his reaction time 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:32.200 right went up twenty three percent. Oh my god after 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:36.400 two weeks, and I'm like, well, I think I need that. 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:39.920 Right, that could become like a pro baseball player. Yeah, exactly, 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:43.240 Maybe I'll consider it. It's the thing where you're like, 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:47.520 but what if something? If I miss something, and you will, 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:50.480 You'll miss the best days of your life on Instagram. 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:53.959 Yeah, it's tough, but I'm trying to get back out 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:54.720 into the world. 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:56.920 What do you do to get back out into the world. 0:09:58.160 --> 0:10:02.040 This is my issue. I used to have hobbies like 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:04.640 what I did Pottery Okay, that's a real I did 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:07.360 painting Okay, oh wow, mo sayn I was that good 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:09.080 at it. But it took up a lot of my time. 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:13.480 Right, I would walk, Okay, that's ours. It's not I'm 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:16.719 not going to qualify, but it took up a lot 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:17.320 of my time. 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:22.520 Those were kind of it. 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:24.920 Those are I mean, you named two solid hobbies. That's 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:27.920 more than I have. Really, you have no hobbies, not currently, No, 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:30.840 nobody have soil or gravel. I've got oh I forgot 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:35.480 I carry buckets. Yeah, but Instagram takes up all my time. 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:37.280 Otherwise I would be constantly. 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:41.000 Carrying is the gravel for like gardening, Like, what's the deal. 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:44.640 It's the backyard. Our dog destroyed our lawn. You have 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:48.160 a dog and she's the best, but she has you know, 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:50.840 she's like a raptor, and so she destroyed the entire 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:53.520 lawn by when we were playing fetch so and we 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:57.119 needed to get rid of the lawn anyway, Los Angeles. 0:10:57.440 --> 0:11:00.920 So now it's like pebbles. But the landscapers left me 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:04.319 extra pebbles and they said, do you want us to 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:06.839 put these somewhere? And I don't know what was going 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:09.560 through my mind when I said, oh, don't worry because 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:10.760 they're each like eighty pounds. 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:11.960 That's crazy. 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:14.520 So now they're just sitting there and just kind of 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:15.839 making me feel bad all the time. 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:19.480 Yeah. Yeah, you could sell those on Facebook, Marketplace easy. 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:24.840 Probably can't get it today. But then when I need 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:25.960 the pebbles, what do I do? 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:27.440 Well, then I don't know how to help you. 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:27.840 Yeah. 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:29.480 I don't want to face a life where I don't 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:30.960 have extra pebbles lying around. 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:35.800 Now, did you choose all these plants? 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:36.280 No? 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:38.640 These when I bought the house. This is how it was. 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:41.440 I have to say, you're telling me stuff that is 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:44.880 amazing to hear and you'll see why later. 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:48.000 Oh incredible. Okay, so this kind of happens on this 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:51.720 podcast sometimes. Really, there's something, there's something, you know. I 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:54.560 think we've talked simulation to death, but there's something about 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:57.480 this podcast. It feels like someone's pushing buttons. Oh yeah, 0:11:57.640 --> 0:12:01.360 gouting things in line. I mean, the things this podcast 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:02.080 is predicted. 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:08.960 I really like what. Oh my god, I'm sure the pandemic. Yeah, 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:10.760 I believe that it's like the Simpsons. 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:12.520 Yeah, it's very much like the Simpsons. 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:14.240 I've never seen You've. 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:17.959 Never seen the Simpsons. No, wow, you've seen clips. 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:18.160 Well. 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:22.160 When I was a kid and my we always watched Seinfeld, 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:25.280 but the Simpsons came on after Seinfeld, so I would 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:27.480 see like the first two minutes and then get scared 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:28.200 and turn it off. 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:29.000 You get scared. 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:34.600 I find animation very scary, and I've mostly worked in animation, 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:37.600 and I find it completely terrifying. 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:38.760 What's so frightening about it? 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:39.040 For you? 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:43.960 The issue is that, to me, animation is like mainlining 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:48.240 someone else's brain, because it's like the only time you 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:51.320 can see exactly what someone sees in their brain. 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:53.440 Wow, oh my god. 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:56.640 That to me is like looking at the stars. 0:12:57.040 --> 0:13:00.400 Really fascinating thing. Yeah, I've never thought of, but I mean, 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:03.400 I guess that's art. Do you just freak out? 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:08.280 I think because I think as animation moves. 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:12.079 Right, it's things move in someone's mind. 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:15.679 I really don't like it. 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:19.800 Is there any animation, like what's your favorite animated thing? 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:23.719 There was a period of time in college where I 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:27.480 was like just so mentally ill that I couldn't watch 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:31.280 shows that had anything I could relate to. Okay, so 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:35.600 like any any relationship stuff, or like money or like 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:39.440 sad family stuff. So I watched kids shows, right, and 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:41.640 I got really into the Backyard against. 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:42.600 Oh I'm not familiar. 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:46.000 Well why would you be. It's a show for kids 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:49.959 created not so long ago. But it's gorgeous and they're 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:54.920 singing and they're so happy, and it's animals that are 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:58.320 living I think in New York City. They play in 0:13:58.320 --> 0:13:59.000 the backyard. 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:04.640 They rare backyard art rich New York City. 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:06.000 They all live in different houses. 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:09.720 They Now the concept of the show is kind of 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:10.800 falling apart for him. 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:13.000 Yeah, I don't know, it was a while ago. 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:15.760 Like other animals, they're not elevant creatures. 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.400 No, No, they're it's like cow cute. 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:19.640 Yeah, very cute. 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:22.680 Rhyo, maybe, Oh they're so cute. 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:24.480 And that was the end of animation for you. 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:27.640 Yeah, that's pretty much. I definitely watched it as a kid, 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:31.000 but like it did it always carry That's. 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:34.400 Such a good point. That's really fascinating. Yeah, that's something 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:37.280 I think you learn like really early on of like 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:40.280 this thing, I'm looking at me like it may not 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:42.880 look the same to me as somebody else. Yes, and 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:48.160 now you've really brought this into a whole full circle thing. Yeah, wow, magical. 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:48.640 I know. 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:51.720 It's it's interesting power of animation, the power of art. 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:54.240 Yeah, I find it scary. 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:57.480 Okay, so you've but you have given up on painting yourself. 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:00.680 Yeah, I'm trying to get back in to it a bit. 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:04.120 I'm trying to get back into anything that like is 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:08.440 not something I can monetize basically, right, But then I 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:12.240 have sold my artwork before. Oh well, it was like 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:16.280 a desperate thing during COVID when I had no work 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:18.040 and people were being quite generous. 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:19.040 What sort of art is in. 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:25.360 The pottery is pretty poorly made, kind of like weird shapes, right, 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:28.920 like you know, three legged planters. When that was like 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:34.280 fun in twenty nineteen and then the paintings. It started 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:37.000 because I would go to paint and sip, okay, sure, 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:41.120 and then I would start getting crazy. I would add silly. 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:44.280 Stuff upon sipping. Is that no sipping. 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:46.200 I'm not going there to sip. I'm going there to paint. 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:49.720 I'm one of the only sober people there usually like 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:53.240 a bachelorette party. And then me sober painting nine to 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:56.640 eleven onto the sunset that we were instructed to make. 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:01.760 So then I just got into painting right right. 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:04.200 Because also pottery was your journey into painting. 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:09.960 No, they ran congruentut okay. 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:11.960 And was there any of that before, like in high 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:12.640 school or anything? 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:15.200 I had always well, I also embroider. 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:17.680 I like crafts okay. Yeah. 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:19.800 I got a little into furniture building. 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:21.280 During cool You're very handy. 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:22.440 I like to be handy. 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:23.560 I was. 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:26.720 There was a moment also not to keep talking about 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:28.120 COVID so interesting. 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:29.880 I think people are craving it. 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:33.560 Okay, great, just to bring it back. I got into 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:37.280 a woodworking school, okay. And I would have gone and 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:38.200 lived in Vermont for. 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:39.280 Two years, oh my god. 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:41.320 And it was like it felt like the perfect time 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:43.720 because it was like you know whatever, And then I 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:46.920 ultimately decided not to at the last minute to continue 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:50.480 making videos, but I regret it. But I was really 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:52.800 like I had sort of taught myself everything I could 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:55.640 teach myself wood working wise, and wanted to. 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:58.320 And were you learning like through YouTube? Was that how 0:16:58.360 --> 0:16:58.800 you were doing it? 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:03.040 I would I would say, how ye wasn't even YouTube 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:05.240 like it was really dangerous And what were you making? 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:10.560 I made a like a stool that I had tiled. 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:13.520 I tiled stool myself when that was kind of a 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:18.960 big trend. I made a waterfall stool. Oh never quite 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:23.000 supported much weight, but was pretty. 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:24.240 More for a child or something. 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:25.600 I made a couple of tables. 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:27.720 Okay, where were you putting all of this? 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:33.320 I was they were small. But I had a friend 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:35.600 who was a painter, and so I would go to 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:38.760 her studio and it was like just like sort of 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:42.200 a studio for any discipline. So they had a lot 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:45.800 of like different things you could use and store and make, 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:48.920 and so I would use like power tools there, which 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:53.600 I had no like it was I almost cut stuff off. 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:57.600 Oh my god, professionals constantly cut stuff off alone. Somebody 0:17:57.640 --> 0:17:59.080 just starting off right, and. 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:00.879 It was like I'd be like, oh yeah, like I 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:04.440 get you know, I'd do it with no mask, no goggles, 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:05.160 and then I'd be. 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:10.800 Like oh right, yeah, and that kind of thing. 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:14.240 I was trying. I tried to do some like stuff 0:18:14.280 --> 0:18:19.639 where I wanted to like freeze stuff in resin, which 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:24.159 is extremely dangerous, just the chemicals, like if it's not 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:26.760 ventilated well, and I was like heating it up what 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:29.560 you're not supposed to. I was just trying stuff, right, 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:32.800 So you know, I would like to get back into 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:34.040 the spirit of that. 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:36.760 And how did you apply to the Wood School? Did 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:38.359 you have to show them photos or. 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:40.840 I sent photos of the stuff I had made? And 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:43.520 I have to imagine I wrote an essay. 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:47.320 That would have been such a turn for you. 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:51.480 I know I'm regretting it. I'm regretting it, but it's 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:57.360 also like, I don't know, actually it's just regret. It's 0:18:57.480 --> 0:19:00.359 just regret. It would have been so awesome. I think 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:02.040 I'd be so much happier. 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:04.480 Right, you probably, I mean, let's be honest, you would have. 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:04.840 Yeah. 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:07.760 I think, no question anyone in comedy if they just 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:10.840 would pick up a skill and just make things, Yeah, 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:12.679 probably feels better. 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:19.640 Yeah, it could be on Instagram. Well, and ultimately woodworkers 0:19:19.680 --> 0:19:22.200 are posting their stuff to Instagram at times. Right, it 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:23.280 depends who you are. 0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:26.800 Right, Yeah, there's a you know, there's a whole you 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:29.119 can kind of turn anything into a thing that hurts you. 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:31.680 At this point, it just kind of keeps you on 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:35.520 that just it's nice to know you have that option. Sure, 0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:37.880