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Speaker 1: What is up? Metstup listeners back here for episode number

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Speaker 1: sixty seven of the met stub podcast. Of course, I'm

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Speaker 1: your co host Mark Luino Draftek Mark here with James

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Speaker 1: cianoj No Range talking about the New York Mets. We

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Speaker 1: actually have some news to talk about here because, as

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Speaker 1: you guys know already, we actually have a manager and

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Speaker 1: it's Buck. We got big Old Buck Show Walter. We're

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Speaker 1: having a bucking good time over here. Now everyone's excited

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Speaker 1: about Buck show Walter, maybe not us as much, but

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about him, go full in depth into the

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Speaker 1: new guy who's gonna be at the Helm for these

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Speaker 1: New York Mets. We also got a little Christmas wish

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Speaker 1: I think they're a little bit different. James probably took

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Speaker 1: a little more serious route, if I had to guess,

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Speaker 1: not really, No, Now we're in a zany mood. Okay,

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Speaker 1: here we go. Should we just get ripping into it?

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Speaker 1: But I mean, first and foremost, how are you feeling

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Speaker 1: because you've got COVID.

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Speaker 2: I do have the COVID. I love how you were

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Speaker 2: about to rip right in and it was the first

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Speaker 1: It's about it. I was like, wait a second, we

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Speaker 2: This is the one. Yeah, I got. I got the

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Speaker 2: omicron last weekend, either at the Christmas part of your

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Speaker 2: parties got It wasn't fun for a few days. It's okay.

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Speaker 2: So that's kind of rough. But we're two more days,

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Speaker 1: Two more days and we're looking good. But uh, glad

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Speaker 1: As someone who had COVID not omicron, and I had

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Speaker 2: My favorite part about this is everybody's happy to Buck

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't feel like the wrong decision. It just

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Speaker 1: Were absolutely podcast guys over here, but I.

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Speaker 2: Like if Diaz blows the game that Buck used him

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Speaker 1: It's like an offensive Lineman. You almost shouldn't know offensive

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Speaker 1: Yes, and I think it's worth noting Buck Showalter. The

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Speaker 1: I'm coming for you.

436
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Speaker 2: That's what we want to do. Does Buck even have it? Twitther?

437
00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:58,560
Speaker 2: Can we tag him in?

438
00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:02,640
Speaker 1: That can't? Possibly? We're we could Listen, you're starting to

439
00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,200
Speaker 1: get a little bit ahead of yourself because we're starting

440
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Speaker 1: to get to my Christmas list here.

441
00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:07,920
Speaker 2: That's a great transition. Let's move on to the Christmas list.

442
00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:09,520
Speaker 1: I'm ready for it, all right, So should I just

443
00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:10,760
Speaker 1: start off with one of the ones that I have?

444
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Speaker 2: So maybe first we should explain to the listeners what

445
00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,640
Speaker 2: we're doing here, because that was confusing last week.

446
00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:18,040
Speaker 1: Yeah that's fair, but yeah, shockingly people could not understand

447
00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,200
Speaker 1: the most Mets team of all time. I couldn't believe

448
00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,560
Speaker 1: the confusion that it caused. I felt like it was

449
00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:27,159
Speaker 1: very straightforward. But nonetheless, where's Tom Severs? Yeah, where's Mike Piazza?

450
00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,800
Speaker 1: Where's Dale Strawberry? Does do any of those guys sound

451
00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,800
Speaker 1: like lasting's millage? I think it's because I saw ed Crainpool.

452
00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:35,000
Speaker 1: I think I really threw them for a loop.

453
00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,520
Speaker 2: And I did grow with you too at the Legacy Picks. Actually,

454
00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,280
Speaker 2: I apologize to our dad's if I listened to this,

455
00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:40,840
Speaker 2: that kind of screwed everybody up.

456
00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, but anyway, talk about the Christmas list. Me and

457
00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,640
Speaker 1: James have come up with five things that we want

458
00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,320
Speaker 1: the Mets to give us for Christmas. Something's on the field,

459
00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,119
Speaker 1: something's off the field, something serious, something's a little bit

460
00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,160
Speaker 1: a little zany. As James said earlier on I'm gonna

461
00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,560
Speaker 1: get started off and why not a little transition with

462
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Speaker 1: Buck and the Christmas List. I would like Buck show

463
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Speaker 1: Walter to just get some sort of technology and in

464
00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,840
Speaker 1: his possession, whether that be a computer, an iPhone and iPad,

465
00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,560
Speaker 1: something where he's able to go on to Google, he's

466
00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,240
Speaker 1: able to type in fangrafts dot com, and he can

467
00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,119
Speaker 1: start to see some advanced stats. I just want him

468
00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,600
Speaker 1: to just to peruse a little bit. He doesn't have

469
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Speaker 1: to be, you know, this expert on WRC plus by

470
00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,520
Speaker 1: any means, but i'd like to. I would like for

471
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Speaker 1: it to be in his vocabulary. And I think a

472
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Speaker 1: smartphone or a MacBook Pro, something of those lines could

473
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Speaker 1: really help elevate Buck's vocabulary in modern day baseball.

474
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Speaker 2: Definitely, we don't need Buck to explain like what goes

475
00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,080
Speaker 2: into the advanced stats. He doesn't know how to build anything,

476
00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,160
Speaker 2: but he needs to know what's important and like kind

477
00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,359
Speaker 2: of why, Like he needs to kind of explain to

478
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Speaker 2: me why these things are important. It's kind of like

479
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Speaker 2: I don't even have an analogy for this one. I

480
00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,720
Speaker 2: don't want to say it's like planes, because I don't

481
00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,520
Speaker 2: even have a conception of how they fly. But it's

482
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Speaker 2: like I want Buck Show Walter to be able to

483
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Speaker 2: explain to me certain advanced stats as like like again,

484
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Speaker 2: we as like we can cook expert cooks by any means.

485
00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if that the oil and the vinegars

486
00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:05,800
Speaker 2: I use are the right things to be using, or

487
00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,960
Speaker 2: if I'm making things at the right temperatures, but it

488
00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:09,840
Speaker 2: tastes good when it comes out. So that's all we

489
00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,119
Speaker 2: really need here, Just Buck Showalter to acknowledge that this

490
00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,399
Speaker 2: stuff's important and for this stuff to all just be okay.

491
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Speaker 1: Well without a doubt. And I think that's possible. I

492
00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,720
Speaker 1: think that's a realistic Christmas wish list right there. Buck

493
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Speaker 1: Show Walter and technology a match.

494
00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,560
Speaker 2: Made in heaven, just go together. I have a Buck

495
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Speaker 2: Show Walter one two that goes along with this. Let

496
00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:28,080
Speaker 2: me get it out of the way, and we could

497
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Speaker 2: just put Buck behind us for the entire episode. Yes,

498
00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,200
Speaker 2: we'll talk enough Buck, we will talk about Buck. Let's

499
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Speaker 2: give a date February twentieth.

500
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Speaker 1: I pray to God that's the next time we could

501
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Speaker 1: talk about him.

502
00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,320
Speaker 2: I don't the next time we get talk, the next

503
00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,920
Speaker 2: time we can even mention Buck show Walter's name. That's

504
00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:44,520
Speaker 2: a deal. We're gonna make the Mets s Up podcast.

505
00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,320
Speaker 2: But my first thing I want for Christmas with the

506
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Speaker 2: New York Mets is for Buck show Walter to have

507
00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,960
Speaker 2: told the truth in his interview and to have just

508
00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,640
Speaker 2: checked his nuts at the door. He's not gonna go rogue,

509
00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,760
Speaker 2: be a maverick, make any crazy decisions. Listen to what's

510
00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,119
Speaker 2: eventually going to be the large just analytics staff in

511
00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,800
Speaker 2: all of baseball. Have them help you, don't shy away

512
00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,480
Speaker 2: from it. Just me make sure that we have a

513
00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,040
Speaker 2: collaborative effort, that everyone's here working together, and there's nothing

514
00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:11,440
Speaker 2: that tells me that Buck can't do that. That's not

515
00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,000
Speaker 2: going to happen. But what I want for Christmas is

516
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:15,840
Speaker 2: for that to actually just be the case.

517
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm hearing from Santa Claus that he was on

518
00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,560
Speaker 1: the nice list, so he was not lying. He was

519
00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,800
Speaker 1: not on a naughty list. No, coal, he got rewarded

520
00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,560
Speaker 1: with a managerial job. Instead, he's back working.

521
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Speaker 2: Back working the three year contract. I thought it was

522
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Speaker 2: a little small Before we leave Buck Showalter behind for

523
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Speaker 2: the next two months.

524
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was just like, you gotta prove yourself.

525
00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,239
Speaker 1: We the Mets. I mean, Steve Cohen has put out

526
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:35,960
Speaker 1: that three to five year window and that was last year.

527
00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,160
Speaker 1: Here's your chance win a World Series, you get paid more.

528
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,800
Speaker 1: We got four last Well, yeah, he's got to show something.

529
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Speaker 1: I'm sure if he doesn't get any cool wear close,

530
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Speaker 1: he's gone after three years.

531
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Speaker 2: Yeah, sixty five to sixty contract that runs you too,

532
00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 2: between your sixty eighth and sixty ninth year. I think

533
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,160
Speaker 2: that's that's a healthy spot to be. Yeah.

534
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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with my second item on the

535
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Speaker 1: wish list here, and that's going to be on the

536
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Speaker 1: pitching side, because boy, do the Mets need pitching terrible, terribly,

537
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,639
Speaker 1: terribly terribly bad. I want Carlos Roddan, bring me, Carlos

538
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,120
Speaker 1: Roddan sign him to what, you know, a nice little

539
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,440
Speaker 1: contract there, making you know, twenty twenty five million dollars

540
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 1: a year, whatever it's gonna be. Have him sloted as

541
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Speaker 1: your number three starter in this rotation. Right now, we

542
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 1: are hurting, which sounds crazy to say when you have

543
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,520
Speaker 1: Max Scherzer and Jacob Degram headlining the one too. But

544
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,920
Speaker 1: right after that, there is an insane drop off. We

545
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,680
Speaker 1: love Taiwan, we love Carlos Carrasco, but it's hard to

546
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 1: rely on those guys to give us reliable innings when

547
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to have a lot out of them

548
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,159
Speaker 1: because they are currently the number three and four and

549
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 1: then battling for five names. We have our Lukez, Jordan Yamamoto,

550
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,719
Speaker 1: Trevor Williams. There's not a whole lot of depth right

551
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,359
Speaker 1: now in this Mets rotation. Adding a guy like Rodan,

552
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 1: while it's gonna be expensive, who cares? That's poor people

553
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,359
Speaker 1: problems where the New York Mets. We spend money. Now

554
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,360
Speaker 1: go get the best picture available on the free agent

555
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:50,040
Speaker 1: market right now.

556
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Speaker 2: I honestly don't know how expensive Carlos Rodan will be,

557
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,680
Speaker 2: just because he's coming from an organization who is now

558
00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 2: just basically told him to fuck off politely twice between

559
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 2: last year the White Sox non tendering him and this

560
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 2: year them not offering him, not giving him a qualifying offer.

561
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,159
Speaker 2: So the team who knows the most about him has

562
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 2: now twice told him to again politely fuck off. And

563
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 2: he wasn't really very coveted in the opening period of

564
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 2: free agency when like eighty percent of the useful pitchers

565
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 2: went off the board. So I think you could probably

566
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Speaker 2: get rodn for probably less money than people think, Like

567
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Speaker 2: I think he was assumed to be in the Robbie

568
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 2: Ray Gussman Stroman's here at the beginning of free agency

569
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,640
Speaker 2: and just doesn't seem like that's the case. Maybe he's

570
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 2: prised himself back into it because of how few legitimate

571
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,719
Speaker 2: options remain on the market. But there is a guy

572
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,679
Speaker 2: who just really fell apart in the second half last year.

573
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 2: So I don't know what's gonna be. Can I give

574
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,200
Speaker 2: you a Rodon stat? I think I've told you this before,

575
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 2: but there's like one of my favorite stats ever. So

576
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 2: for Donald's dominant in the first half this year, like

577
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 2: April through July, is one of the best pitchers in baseball.

578
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 2: Fourth highest K rate in the league, fourth highest k

579
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 2: kmeu as walk right in the league, tenth lowest whip

580
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,360
Speaker 2: like he was disgusting. From that time April through July,

581
00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 2: twelve point seven percent of his fast balls were ninety

582
00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 2: eight miles per hour or higher. Again, that was April

583
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 2: through July, so all those months from August first through

584
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 2: the end of the season, and that was in between

585
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 2: he had an il stint with like shoulder inflammation or

586
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 2: shoulder fatigue, elbow fatigue, something that is clearly like a

587
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 2: bad injury, something that that bought bad injuries he's had before.

588
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 2: Only one point seven percent of his fast balls were

589
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,439
Speaker 2: ninety eight miles an hour. Great, that's a massive, massive

590
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 2: reduction from a guy who was winning a little bit

591
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 2: with velocity at the beginning of the year from the

592
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 2: left side.

593
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Speaker 1: Yeah, just gim Jeremy Hefner sprinkle on him. He got

594
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 1: Taiwan to look pretty strong over the entire year, you know,

595
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 1: as a whole with the VLO and everything like that.

596
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 1: So I feel like, get him under the Jeremy Hefner

597
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,640
Speaker 1: umbrella and only good things can happen.

598
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna

599
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 2: say no to that. I'm just he he just scared

600
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 2: me a little bit. And the Mets team as they're

601
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 2: constructed right now needs more than anything else. Innings, Like,

602
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 2: I know, you should always play for upside and free

603
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 2: agency because you've already basically lost the best years of

604
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 2: a guy's prime, so you might as well play the

605
00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 2: upside card. Anyway, and hope you just catch it. But

606
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 2: the second thing on my wish list is also pitching

607
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 2: related in this trade for Luis Castillo.

608
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I wanted to do that one, and

609
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: then I saw you had it written down, and I'm like, okay,

610
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give James that one. I think even Sonny

611
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 1: Gray would be a great guy to bring in. I

612
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 1: would love to bring in Sonny.

613
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 2: Definitely would call the Reds say, here's Ronni Mauricio, and

614
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,200
Speaker 2: I want Louis Castillo. We'll give Will Pepper in a

615
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 2: few more prospects probably also have to give up, like

616
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 2: one of these very young guys like Joel Diaz or

617
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 2: a new famous guy on Twitter because of Baseball America

618
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 2: and Alex Ramirez, and probably another mid level prospect like you.

619
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Speaker 2: Probably also have to give up a JT. Gin or

620
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 2: like just a smathering of all the successful guys in

621
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 2: the lower miners that we have. But I really just

622
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 2: I think it's incredibly worth it, because Castillo is probably

623
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 2: at the lowest point you're ever gonna get him at

624
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 2: in his value right now, because he's a guy who's

625
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 2: been like not an ace, but like a really perennial

626
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 2: two for the last few years. Had a really tough

627
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 2: year this year, But there were a lot of bad

628
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 2: circumstances that led to Luis Castillo's like really dreadful first half.

629
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Speaker 2: First of all, they were playing Juhenio Suarez, who's like

630
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 2: basically an average third basement shortstop. For a while, Suarez

631
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 2: was making just copious amounts of errors as first he starts.

632
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 2: On top of that, this is the staff that I

633
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 2: have for no reason at all, just from all the

634
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 2: pitching riding I did over the last year. He made

635
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 2: his first six starts of the season this year fifty

636
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 2: five degrees or lower. Tough to pitch in those conditions,

637
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 2: Very tough to pitch in those conditions time after time

638
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 2: when you're not playing well, when you have a guy

639
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 2: playing opposition a short stop behind you. And he made

640
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 2: a major adjustment in the second half to bump his

641
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 2: change up usage. He was basically back to his current

642
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,880
Speaker 2: self from August through the end of the year. Change

643
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 2: up has always been his best pitch, and I think

644
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 2: you could really get in for Rani, Marisio, plus like

645
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 2: a few ish prospects. I've always said, you want to

646
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 2: hold onto these prospects unless you see a move that

647
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 2: could be one of the last moves, and getting Luis

648
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 2: Castillo in this rotation could be one of the last moves.

649
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 2: And Ryan Marissio at the end of the day is

650
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Speaker 2: probably just not actually helping you over the next two seasons.

651
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Speaker 2: So at that point, to me, that feels worth it.

652
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I if we're gonna give up Rianan Marisio,

653
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 1: a guy like Luis Castillo who has ace type stuff

654
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Speaker 1: and has shown the ability to be a top front

655
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: line pitcher, who would then slotted at number three behind

656
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: two of the best pitchers of this generation, Jacob de

657
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: Gram and Scherzer. I talked about the Jeremy Hefner umbrella.

658
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: How about we get Luis Castill all around Max Scherzer

659
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 1: and Jacob deGrom for a season or two?

660
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Speaker 2: My goodness, also get Luis Castillo to fucking City Field

661
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 2: as opposed to great American Bandbox. All the Mets fans

662
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 2: saw how that stadium plays during the season. He's pitched

663
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: his whole career like that. Get in the city field,

664
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Speaker 2: that era is dropping like a half of a run.

665
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Speaker 1: And the fact that we have good infield defense behind

666
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Speaker 1: him too now and good outfield defense, it'll be huge

667
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Speaker 1: for his game. The Reds were one of the worst

668
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Speaker 1: defensive teams in baseball.

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Speaker 2: Yeah they were, I get because they were had a

670
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 2: third basement playing shortstop for most of the year. The

671
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 2: Mets also shifted the second most all Baseball last year,

672
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Speaker 2: more than the Reds. That's gonna help a pitcher who

673
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 2: gets ground balls. This is all around. I think would

674
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Speaker 2: be just a slam talk and I would love to

675
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Speaker 2: see the Mets pull it off.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that'd be awesome. I'm gonna go now to

677
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Speaker 1: a player that I'd like to acquire on the hitting side,

678
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Speaker 1: and it's gonna be maybe a little bit out there,

679
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Speaker 1: but let's go get Chris Bryant. I know we have

680
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Speaker 1: it Wardo Escobar, who's looking like he's gonna be a

681
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 1: third baseman right now. But Chris Bryant is one hundred

682
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: percent better. I think there's no doubt in that. Why

683
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Speaker 1: not go and get one of the best available corner

684
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: guys right now on the market who can also play

685
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: the outfield, has a little versatility. So like that eight

686
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: to fifty oh ps every single year, won fifteen to

687
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: one to twenty WRC plus guy absolute beast. I know

688
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: he's boring. He's He's not even vanilla ice cream. He's water.

689
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: He's got no taste whatsoever. But Chris Bryant is a

690
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 1: good player. He has the versatility, he has the bat,

691
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 1: he has the ability, he's had the experience. I feel

692
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 1: like he fits really well in this team. It's probably

693
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 1: not one of our biggest needs. But Christmas, you know,

694
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: I'm feeling a little spoiled. I want to spoil myself.

695
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 1: Santh to bring me something good. Chris Bryant. That'll be

696
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Speaker 1: a nice president.

697
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Speaker 2: Definitely let him sit out there for a few months

698
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 2: and get into a nice three year deal and make

699
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 2: it just all fit in really nicely. And I think you,

700
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 2: especially and a lot of the Mets fans have overrated

701
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 2: while the westcbar are a little bit during the time

702
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 2: since he was signed. Like he's a fine player, but

703
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 2: I don't think you're winning a World Series. Why the

704
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 2: Westcbar gets six hundred that bats for your team? And yeah,

705
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 2: Chris Brian would definitely alleviate that problem. It just really

706
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 2: some like be that like the last punch at this

707
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 2: lineup needs to go from being like a good one

708
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 2: that sometimes could probably still get cold and teether the

709
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 2: wrong way. It's just having a very very very high floor.

710
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, I think Chris Bryant would really help

711
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 1: elevate this team for sure, to a different level, or,

712
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: like you said, at least a little more consistent at

713
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 1: the level that they're at.

714
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 2: So I'm moving on. My third item for my Mets

715
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 2: Christmas wish list is going to take it back to

716
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 2: back off the field onto the internet, specifically Twitter, and

717
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 2: specifically for all of the baseball Twitter personalities Mets especially

718
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 2: that are really starving to get generate clicks or you

719
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 2: not really generately clicks because everyone's still on Twitter. It's

720
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 2: just nothing baseball talk about. But just find things that

721
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 2: are meaningful to put out into the world. I would

722
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 2: wish that people really relax with the on this Day

723
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 2: post gears specifically to the New York Mets, because over

724
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 2: the last two weeks we have seen on This Days

725
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 2: for absolutely every single fucking thing that's happened in the

726
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 2: last twenty thirty forty fifty years of the Mets organization.

727
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 2: Two weeks ago was last week when we did the

728
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 2: draft episode. That was the day that the Bartol anniversary

729
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 2: of Bartolo Coloone signed his contract with the Mets. I

730
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 2: probably saw the video of Bartolo Colonne's home run like

731
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 2: fourteen fifteen, sixteen seventeen times on Twitter and one day,

732
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 2: and I know, for some reason, Bartol Colonna has remained

733
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: like this folk legend for the New York Mets. But

734
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 2: this guy was just mediocre for like three years on

735
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 2: a team, Like there's no reason he should still be

736
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 2: this large end life figure. I saw one the other

737
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 2: day for John Oliarud.

738
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Speaker 1: He was great, but yeah, it's crazy. John Olarux was great,

739
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: but I mean, to be honest, I think there's a

740
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: little more crazy one that's on this.

741
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 2: I know I'm a building again. He was great, but

742
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 2: he played with the Mets for three seasons. Three seasons

743
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 2: for the Mets ninety seven, ninety eight, ninety nine. Those

744
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 2: those were meetingful seasons for the Mets. They went, they

745
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 2: went to the playoffs every time, they almost went to

746
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 2: a World Series. He got some MVP votes in nineteen

747
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 2: ninety eight, like he played almost every game every year.

748
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 2: He wore the helmet in the fields. A little helmet

749
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 2: is yeah, it's cool thing. But like we're showing on

750
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 2: this day stats for John John Oliarud getting signed by

751
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 2: the Mets. I get the fuck out here in the

752
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 2: last one. This is the one that sent me to

753
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 2: the moon. This is the one that's the motivation, the

754
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 2: inspiration for this. I on my wishless and on this

755
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 2: day signing post for Wilson Ramos. How on God's green

756
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 2: Earth should that be something that we care about right now?

757
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 2: That the Mets signed Wilson Ramos on this day three

758
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 2: years ago. The Mets gave out objectively just slightly worsted

759
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 2: value contract a couple of years ago to a player

760
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 2: who didn't do well at all for us and who

761
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 2: meant nothing in the grand scheme of things, never appeared

762
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 2: in a playoff game. It's absolutely bonkers.

763
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Speaker 1: Like I was gonnay at least for Bartol and old Rude.

764
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: Like there were some good vibes, there were some good memories,

765
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: but like we we've.

766
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,239
Speaker 2: Got MVP votes. I do get that. But again, these

767
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 2: are guys who collectively played on the Mets for I

768
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 2: think ten total seasons. Why are any of them being recognized?

769
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 2: Like we gotta just think, we gotta think of something else.

770
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 2: Guys do some quizzes like Mark.

771
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Wilson Ramos was not not one of the great

772
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: ones to be pulled out there. That's easy.

773
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 2: These are guys who, just like, if you look at

774
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 2: their Baseball Reference page, the Mets portion of their careers

775
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 2: doesn't even stand out. Maybe Old Root because they were

776
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 2: probably his best years, those three goddamn years. Like, why

777
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 2: the fuck are we giving these guys so much credit? Here?

778
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: Bartolo hasn't played since being with the Mets, right, I

779
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: don't think he has no And Wilson Ramos essentially hasn't

780
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: played since being with the Mets. I would call last season.

781
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 2: Remember in April, Lester he hit all his home runs

782
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 2: and everyone was giving the Mets shift for it, and

783
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 2: then he hit like three more the rest of the year.

784
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got so much shit about Wilson rom So.

785
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: You said he stinks. So I was like, this is

786
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: he does this every year. He goes on a week

787
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: where he hits four homers and he disappears for the

788
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: rest of the season. That's Wilson Romos for you. I

789
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: think that's probably enough Wilson Ramos talk. Let me go

790
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: to my number four thing on my wish list. I'm

791
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: going off the field here, and I'm talking about the

792
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: experience at City Field. We love City Field. It's one

793
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: of my favorite stadiums in the game. I'd like for

794
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: Steve Cohen, who has been very vocal about wanting to

795
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: hear changes made to City Field. I would love for

796
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: Steve Cohen and the Mets and the city Field. You know,

797
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: vendors everything. Let's do what Atlanta does and go with

798
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: that cheaper food option. I love that the Falcons and

799
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: the Braves. You go to a game, you buy a burger,

800
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: it's like five dollars. You get a beer, it's like seven.

801
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: I'll take a seven dollars beer over the fifteen fourteen

802
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: dollars beers we're paying for any day of the week.

803
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: And apparently in Atlanta, their concession sales and their revenue

804
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: was way up. And part of the reason why is

805
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: that people come into the ballpark earlier, starts spending more money.

806
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: They think it's cheaper, so we'll go and get more.

807
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: Give us an opportunity to not spend two hundred dollars

808
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: at the ballpark to have a good time. I don't

809
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: care about the tickets. Do whatever you want for ticket prices,

810
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: but in terms of the food, the stuff in the stadium,

811
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: don't price gouge me for a bud light sorry bud Light.

812
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: I would never drink that piss water Coors Light, Sorry Cours.

813
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 2: I can't be giving out, uh these free ads right

814
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 2: now to all of our listeners, all all hundreds of

815
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 2: thousands of the people listening to Metsup podcast on a

816
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: regular basis.

817
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: I'm just pitching the Coors to come, come sponsor us.

818
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: I'll take it any day of the week.

819
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 2: I really thought you were gonna stay topical and go

820
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 2: to the Samsung announcement that we're gonna have a scoreboard

821
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 2: that spans from left center of the right center.

822
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: I love that they knocked it off. I love that.

823
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: I love having more distractions. Let's do it. Let's have

824
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: screens everywhere.

825
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 2: Every screens we play a different teams game. We want

826
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 2: to watch every game in the league. If you have

827
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,719
Speaker 2: the Mets right here. But like the modern living room

828
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 2: has multiple TVs. Again for the mold sports fans, this

829
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 2: is like one of those commercials from the sixties. The

830
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 2: mold sports fan requires more screens than the semi modelin

831
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 2: sports fan of years ago. Welcome to the six TV experience.

832
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 2: Like that's what we need. I want to watch every

833
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 2: fucking baseball game every night of the week. I will.

834
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 2: Maybe Robbie Ray's pitch, I want to watch him. Maybe,

835
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 2: maybe Garret Cole's pitching, I want to watch him. I

836
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 2: got maybe lancelt I'm gonna hit the trifecta. You maybe

837
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 2: he's pitching. I want to watch him. I want to

838
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 2: see the Phillies doing, the Marlins, the Braves, the Nationals.

839
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,479
Speaker 2: I want to say every team is doing right there.

840
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 2: Put screens fucking everywhere.

841
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: It seems like they are. It seems like Samsung is

842
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,959
Speaker 1: quite literally trying to cover every inch of the ballpark

843
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: that is not a seat in screens.

844
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Speaker 2: I love the Steve Cohens taking the ballpark into the

845
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Speaker 2: twenty first century. You've got Samsung sponsorship, we got the

846
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 2: Crypto sponsorship all over the field. Like Steve Cohen's just like,

847
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 2: I'm here to make money.

848
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's gonna be NFT stuff going on at

849
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: some point.

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00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm telling you the Buck show, Walter Nft

851
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 2: spinning tobacco with his little look on his face.

852
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: Like, is that number four in your wish list? Do

853
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: you want to Buck show Walter Nft?

854
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 2: Uh? No, that that's my honorable mention. But if anyone

855
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: out there makes NFTs, make that is the first ever

856
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 2: metst up NFT. Do you people make NFT. I don't

857
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 2: know how you even make an NFT. Whatever number four

858
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 2: thing on my wish list, this is very on branch

859
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 2: for me. This is something I want to say. I

860
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 2: want the Mets to have it open and creative pitching strategy,

861
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,959
Speaker 2: especially early in the season this year. Like you referenced

862
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 2: it before. We both have major pitchers on our wish list.

863
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 2: The Mets don't have any pitching depth at all, and

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00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 2: Jacob de Grom is probably gonna be brought along slowly,

865
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 2: Like I can't see Jacob de Grom throwing win eighty

866
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 2: pitches until we get to the middle of May, you

867
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 2: know what I mean. So I think that we just

868
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 2: really have to lay out like a clear and attainable,

869
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 2: like goal and action plan for all of these middling

870
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 2: pitchers that we have, the Petersen's, the Yamamoto, McGill especially

871
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 2: the mcguil is the real guy this is all about,

872
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 2: Like I want to tell like a whole fleet of

873
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 2: these guys, like six of these guys, Like you're a

874
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 2: nine out pitcher for all of April, Like we're gonna

875
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 2: even Taiwan could be a twelve out guy early in

876
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 2: New year, who saw how much he died last year.

877
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 2: And I want people get mad about this. I don't

878
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 2: want people to get frustrated with this, especially Buck Showalter,

879
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 2: the people on Wfan, Like, I just want all these

880
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 2: guys to get as many guys out as they can

881
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 2: sustainably and then bring somebody else in as long as

882
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 2: it doesn't kill the bullpen. We have Max Scherzer as

883
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: the boulder going seven innings every five days. Carrasco hopefully

884
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 2: by this point. Actually no, you know, Carrasco's gonna be

885
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: a guyho probably also wanted the schedule, Like you're a

886
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 2: twelve out guy. You're twelve out guy until May first.

887
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 2: If you did twelve outs until May first, we can

888
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 2: move you up to fifteen. Attack the season that way,

889
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 2: and just be clear and open and honest about it.

890
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 2: And don't put any of these pitchers who aren't the

891
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 2: most skilled or they're not really perfect by any means,

892
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 2: don't put them in situations where they're susceptible to be hurt.

893
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I will say, like, as much as the

894
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: Mets don't have pitching depth by any means, we do

895
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: have a lot of those guys who I think could

896
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: be very useful in those nine out you know, three

897
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: man swingman situations.

898
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 2: You got to read Foley. We have Trevor Williams. I

899
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 2: think he's still on this roster correctly. There's a lot

900
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 2: of the Moto. Yeah, there's a lot of these guys

901
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 2: that are kind of in between the Mets have right

902
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 2: now they're going to have to stretch value out of

903
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 2: if they want something to happen. Is negostis still on

904
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 2: this team? No, he's gone, right, I.

905
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 1: Don't think he's gone. No, But you still have lu Casey,

906
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: who's you know, he's Tommy, He's he's been Yeah, not.

907
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 2: Gonna Winnie Pitchers, Winny Pitchers.

908
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,280
Speaker 1: Mcgil though McGill.

909
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 2: McGill's the guy McGill. You just need McGill to be

910
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: a twelve out guy. Probably Peterson too, he's gonna pitch

911
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 2: it next year, twelve outs, fifteen outs. If you're really

912
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 2: feeling like Sparky, just get your guys out, be as

913
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 2: effective as possible, and then bring it onto the Bullbanks

914
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 2: and Mets Wallpen does pretty good, so you need to

915
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 2: like lean on that strength until the reinforcements become strong.

916
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: Yes, No, I think that's very fair. I think outside

917
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: of the stable guys that we have in this rotation,

918
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 1: we have to be smarter in order to get the

919
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: most out of our players. I like that. That's a

920
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: very good one for my fifth and final one here.

921
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a real simple man. This is an

922
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: easy one for me. How about a world series. Let's

923
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: get a world series. I'm gonna take a world series,

924
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: of course, So what do you mean? Of course, I've

925
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: been a panther. I want one. I want a world series,

926
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: and you know how we do it. Listen to what

927
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: me and James just said. Go get Louis Castillo, Go

928
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: get Carlos rodon To, and go get Chris Bryant. I'm

929
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: drunk with power. I want them all.

930
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 2: If the mess gout, all three of those guys, I

931
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 2: think they probably would be a positioned actually won a

932
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 2: world series.

933
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think I think that would be a

934
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 1: legitimate thing. And why can't we? Why can't we? That's

935
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: poor people problems, not being able to get these guys.

936
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: We're not poor anymore. Go and spend all the money

937
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: in the world. If Steve Cohen, which he's shown so far,

938
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: is really saying balls to the Wall will do anything

939
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: to win, which also is kind of like the Buck Show.

940
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: Walter hiring as a manager, Like you said, short term contract,

941
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: he's here to with Now, go get more guys, Go

942
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: win a world series. We're closer than we were to

943
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: start the off season. We're still not a contender, but

944
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: we can get there for sure.

945
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 2: All Right, that is a good one, win a world series.

946
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 2: I didn't realize how simple and like stupidly easy. I

947
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 2: guess this is wishless thing could be. But Mark's not

948
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 2: feeling that creative this evening. That's really all right. I

949
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 2: just feel bad for the listeners at home, truly. Wow.

950
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 2: My fifth and final item on the Wishless is also

951
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 2: very simple. It's so simple that it might have happened

952
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 2: by the time that this episode drops. But I want

953
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 2: Robinson Cano to get his second extra base hit of

954
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 2: the Dominican Winter League.

955
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that guy's gonna be playing a lot next year,

956
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: sure is. I don't know. I don't know where he's

957
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: gonna be playing. I don't know if he can really

958
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: play second base with how old he is and maybe

959
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: no steroids. But he's gonna be swinging the bat, that's

960
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 1: for sure. And it would be nice to see him

961
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 1: just look a little bit rejuvenated in the lead.

962
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 2: Dom just get a couple hits here and there, just

963
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 2: play against all the righties, be the start out on

964
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 2: the bench against the lefties, come in for that big

965
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,439
Speaker 2: pinch hit opportunity, and just you know what, Robinson Cano,

966
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 2: don't fuck it up. And there is there's a non

967
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 2: zero chance that there's no DH because I think the

968
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 2: way that these negotiations have stalled right now, these groups

969
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 2: are gonna come to the table with like vastly uh,

970
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 2: vastly more motivation to get something done. I think that

971
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 2: was a good uh it's gonna be advantage later on

972
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 2: if this freeze out. But I think we're at the

973
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 2: point now where basically neither side cares about the DH,

974
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 2: so it'd be very easy for it to just become

975
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 2: lost in the shuffle of this negotiation. So if there's

976
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 2: no DH, I don't know where the Mets are gonna

977
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 2: do with Robinson Cano.

978
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, we need the DH. We are a team that

979
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,439
Speaker 1: benefits massively from having the DH, without a doubt.

980
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 2: I mean in a way, yes, because it helps some

981
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 2: of our not useful players become relatively more useful. But

982
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 2: the Mets still aren't like one of the deeper teams

983
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 2: in the National League in terms of bats, So I

984
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 2: don't I don't think it really benefits us as much.

985
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think like getting Robson can Knows

986
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 2: bat in the line up every day gives us an

987
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 2: advantage over a team like the Dodgers or the Braves.

988
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, but getting JD. Davis's bat in the lineup could

989
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: be somewhat of a benefit because we just know that

990
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: he is horrendously Did you.

991
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 2: Hear what you just said It could be somewhat of

992
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 2: a benefit. You gave two qualifiers for how much of

993
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 2: a benefit JD. Davis's bat could someone?

994
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's uh. That reminds me. I got a comment

995
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: on my shortstop rankings about how Danzy Swanson's underrated and

996
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: the reason why he's under raised because he goes out

997
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: there every day and he's in the lineup.

998
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 2: That's why.

999
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: And it's like, well, those seem like the minimum qualifications

1000
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: to be a baseball player. It seems like step one

1001
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: and go out there every single day. I just did

1002
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: that with JD.

1003
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 2: Well, Yeah, exactly. He did over rank Carls Carreis. That

1004
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:21,439
Speaker 2: makes sense.

1005
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: I over ranked him.

1006
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm just I'm just trying to number three.

1007
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 1: That was a fair spot.

1008
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a little high. I remember he was.

1009
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 2: He was in front of somebody. I said it was wrong, Billgarts. Yeah.

1010
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 2: Uh puts poke Garts ahead to see here. Yeah. I don't.

1011
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 2: I don't care, all right.

1012
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: Whatever. My rankings though, for the Mets, they look good.

1013
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: I have them pretty high, and I don't think it's

1014
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: bests biased. I really do think they're strong.

1015
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 2: So but if George Springer was a Met and Starling

1016
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 2: Marte was a Yankee, who'd be ranked higher?

1017
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: Oh, George Springer all day?

1018
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 2: There you go, all day.

1019
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not a I'm not on any mal.

1020
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 2: This is a weird episode.

1021
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: Sorry, guys, we're a little all over the place. It's

1022
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: almost one am. This got later recordings. James says COVID.

1023
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: I'm sweating. I'm so sweaty.

1024
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 2: I've felt the air one time in the last five days.

1025
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 2: It's losing it.

1026
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 1: I had waffles and bacon for dinner tonight. I ordered

1027
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,240
Speaker 1: diner food and they forgot my sausage. I was distraught.

1028
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 2: That actually kind of ruins the entire ditch no sausage

1029
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 2: for the waffles and bacon.

1030
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough. It's tough. And then there was just

1031
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 1: like something I wanted to kind of talk about because

1032
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: it happened on Mets Twitter, and it was something interesting

1033
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: between s and y Mets fans. A little bit of

1034
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: Marcus Stroman action too. I know he's no longer worth

1035
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: the Mets, so we really shouldn't care, but I do

1036
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: think that it kind of opens up a bigger narrative,

1037
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: which we've talked about before. Will Pond Shills, let's talk

1038
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: about it. So Todziel made some comments about Marcus Stroman

1039
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: that were a little a little strange, and I know

1040
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 1: you have those there.

1041
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. I didn't even hear the comments. I wasn't able

1042
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 2: to find them anywhere because I think they just probably

1043
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 2: happened on like daytime SNY and no one in the

1044
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 2: world is paying attention. But luckily Joey Waller of ABC Audio,

1045
00:40:56,080 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 2: ABC News, WFN and Wagner Wagner College. I guess he

1046
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 2: writes for Wagner Wagner Basketball. Wow, he had it. Put

1047
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 2: it on Twitter. Todd Zeel just said Marcus Stroman was

1048
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 2: one of the most divisive players in the Mets clubhouse

1049
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 2: and there it is. So I don't know how to

1050
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 2: perceive that. It's just kind of seems like SNY throwing

1051
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 2: a throwing some shit on Marcus Stroman's name after the fact.

1052
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 2: I do also think it's possible this Stroman could have

1053
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 2: been device him in the clubhouse. Like I'm not gonna

1054
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 2: discount that, but I am just not really understanding the

1055
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 2: fact that it was brought up now of all days.

1056
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it was super weird. And the guy Mark

1057
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: Heeley on Twitter, who was connected with the Mets all

1058
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: over the place. I'm not sure why, but I know

1059
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: he's connected with the Mets. He said, if Todd Zeel

1060
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 1: had the information that Marcus Stroman was divisive, he should

1061
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: have shared that information before the picture signed with the Cubs.

1062
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: The Mets have an S and Y problem, and it's

1063
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: not a secret as to why bagging on a player

1064
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: after they leave is a long time. Willpond move and yeah,

1065
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: like we've talked about it before that S and Y

1066
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: is a little bit all over the place sometimes with

1067
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: their commentary. We love Gary, we love Ron, we love Keith.

1068
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: Those guys are good. It's not really the S and

1069
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: Y people, But it's the news and the kind of

1070
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: Fox Sports ESPN type stuff that they try to do

1071
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 1: gets a little all over the place.

1072
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 2: S and Y, for some reason, is a station that

1073
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 2: puts out like twenty hours a day of New York

1074
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 2: sports concept. Besides for the four hours overnight when they

1075
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 2: run the infomercials and they put out just some insane stuff.

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Speaker 2: Any network you have to fill for that long, as

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Speaker 2: anyone can tell by the regular full time sports stations

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00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 2: or the full time politics news networks, you have to

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00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 2: fill so much airtime, you just say some crazy things

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Speaker 2: to get people to watch, listen, peak care of it.

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Speaker 2: So I would make sense that someone would say something

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Speaker 2: like this to get some eyes on there. Have you

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00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 2: ever watched the dating show that smy puts on? Will

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00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 2: they put New York sports fans together?

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Speaker 1: Incredible? It's awesome TeV.

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Speaker 2: That's not true. That is some of the worst programming

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00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 2: it's ever existed in the God's Green Earth. But I

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Speaker 2: want to also share that as I searched Todd Zeal

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00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 2: to find this quote, I got it on to Stay

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Speaker 2: Todd Zeal from a few months ago. On this day,

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00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 2: todds Eal end of his career with a bang by

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Speaker 2: homering in his last Major league at BT.

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Speaker 1: Who gives that shit?

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Speaker 2: New York Mets official accounts that.

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Speaker 1: Whoa. I almost fell out of my chair. It almost

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Speaker 1: knocked me out of my chair that we had it

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Speaker 1: on this day from Todd Zeal. That's about as lozi kats.

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Speaker 2: We actually have one another one from ten days ago.

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Speaker 2: This day of Mets history, so entire count donate. It's

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Speaker 2: a really useless information about Mets history. On this day

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Speaker 2: Mets history, the Mets signed Tod Ziels to a three year,

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Speaker 2: eighteen million dollar contracts Todd Zeal. We're talking about Tod

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Speaker 2: Zeal signing a three year contract to utility man at

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Speaker 2: the end of his career. He did play in a

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Speaker 2: World Series. We'll give him that. It's no Wilson Ramos,

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Speaker 2: but my god, Todd Zeal.

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Speaker 1: We are starving for baseball content.

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Speaker 2: That brother stove.

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00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, we are starving for baseball content. And SOI is too,

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Speaker 1: And that's why I say shit like this. Yeah, no,

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00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: it's whatever. Who cares market show was on the team.

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Speaker 1: But I did think it's worth noting that we see

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00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: another Mets fan that has somewhat of a poll here

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00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: on social media. Talking about us and why being a

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00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 1: little bit uh, a little shaky here and there, which

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00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: we've definitely said it. We know how I feel about

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Speaker 1: Andy Martino not a fan.

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Speaker 2: And now scrolling there were three todd zeal on this

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00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 2: day signing things that were made from Mets, Mets content

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Speaker 2: us and now at least three different people felt the

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Speaker 2: need to tweet on this day todd Ze signed with

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Speaker 2: the Mets. And also I don't think TODZ was in

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Speaker 2: the clubhouse and all do for the Mets the season,

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Speaker 2: and I don't think any journalists were allowed to be

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Speaker 2: I don't know how personal relationship he has with any players,

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Speaker 2: and this is something that he clearly sat on for

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Speaker 2: the entire season. So this is just a weird thing

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Speaker 2: to have happened.

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Speaker 1: Weird thing to happen for a player who's irrelevant now

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Speaker 1: to the Mets. Irrelevant.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, both tod zand Marcus Strumman, Yes, but them.

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00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: Literally have no impact on the Mets at all, and

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Speaker 1: they shouldn't.

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Speaker 2: No, this is this is the big reason why we're

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Speaker 2: in a shoe pile of shortage in northern Manhattan. It's

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Speaker 2: because of todd zial.

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Speaker 1: Oh he loo blow he low blows insane.

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Speaker 2: Just gotta go out. Man. The grade's not bad. It's

1139
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Speaker 2: not a bad. Look.

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Speaker 1: My dad rocks it.

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Speaker 2: I'll give him mad he rocks the grind Dad too.

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00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a little little distinguished no distinguished whatever. Yeah,

1143
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: all right, I'm losing it. I'm losing it. And that's

1144
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: where it feels like a perfect time to wrap this up.

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00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: You got nothing else to talk about, right.

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00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: No, it's anything we keep saying can only hurt this

1147
00:44:59,239 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 2: in the long run.

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00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, this, this episode is all over the place. I

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Speaker 1: can assure you that if you're listening to it, it

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Speaker 1: was one hundred times. It's harder for James to edit it.

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00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 1: I can promise you that. But that's what we're wrapping up,

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Speaker 1: episode number sixty seven on The mess Up Podcast. Follow

1153
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,279
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1154
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: mets up podcast. Follow James on Twitter at your had

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1157
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Speaker 1: drop us a five star rating, drop us a review.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for listening, Thank you for watching.

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Speaker 2: Also Spotify podcast reviews coming out soon. When that happens,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna we're gonna do something for it. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: do it challenge, maybe giveaway. Yeah, there's gonna be something

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Speaker 2: we want to get to, like one hundred and hundred

1163
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Speaker 2: reviews on their twenty four hours something crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and also keeping out on Christmas Day, might be

1165
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: doing a giveaway on the Twitter, so keep an eye

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Speaker 1: out for that.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 1: Awesome, Thank you so much for listening, Thank you for watching,

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Speaker 1: and we'll see on the next episode of The Messed

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Speaker 1: Up Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Peas out please out, guys, See you next time.

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Speaker 1: The new