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Speaker 1: We are talking about the Oregon twenty twenty two season

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Speaker 1: as if it's a pulsar we discovered in deep space

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Speaker 1: and we're not sure how it works.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the solid verbal hell that for me. I'm

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Speaker 2: a man, I'm forty.

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Speaker 3: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 3: be happy.

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Speaker 4: You want to be happy for a day? Edith Steak

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Speaker 4: is that woo woof?

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Speaker 1: And them and Tye, welcome back to the salad barbol

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Speaker 1: boys and girls.

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Speaker 3: My name is ty Hildebrand. That fine gentleman over there,

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Speaker 3: whoa as always Dan Rubenstein, Sir, how are you, my friend?

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Speaker 4: I'm good. You have a little bit of a stink,

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Speaker 4: and I mean that in a good way in your voice.

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Speaker 4: Say you're riding a little bit of zip, a little

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Speaker 4: bit of buzz. If you're watching this, you can clearly

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Speaker 4: see that Tie got a terrific haircut. Sotsus to Tie.

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Speaker 4: I'm good, Tye. You know it's one of those days

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Speaker 4: where at least the sun is out, even though it's

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Speaker 4: cold here in quote unquote spring. I'm good, Tye. I

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Speaker 4: get to talk to you. We get to talk Oregon

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Speaker 4: Foot in our year one debrief series happened to make

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Speaker 4: Great Pizza Friday Night. What's new?

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Speaker 3: Come on?

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Speaker 4: Life is all right?

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Speaker 1: Matt Preme from the autsin Audibles podcast from duck Territory

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Speaker 1: from the twenty four to seven Sports Network. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: be by shortly to help us decipher Year one in Oregonland.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in Duckville, Track Town, USA.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm quite excited to talk about it. I'll give

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Speaker 4: my own personal thoughts afterwards so people can decide. Okay,

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Speaker 4: I've listened to the person who actually covers the team

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Speaker 4: in is that practice. I don't need to hear Dan

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Speaker 4: Rubinstein talk about Oregon football. I want to give the

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Speaker 4: people the opportunity to move on with their lives after

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Speaker 4: hearing Matt. But yeah, this should be quite good.

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Speaker 3: I'm very excited.

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Speaker 1: If you are enjoying the Year one debrief series, don't Forget,

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Speaker 1: you can go back and listen to the episode we

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Speaker 1: did with Dave Waters when we talked about all things Florida.

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Speaker 1: You can go back and listen to the episode we

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Speaker 1: did last week with Ryan Abraham of usc football dot Com.

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Speaker 1: We're going to keep doing these for the foreseeable future

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Speaker 1: because because there are a bunch of teams, as you know,

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: Two had first year coaches.

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Speaker 1: It was a very active coaching carousel after the twenty

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Speaker 1: one season, so twenty twenty two obviously had a lot

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely playing a role behind the scenes with the show. Also,

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Speaker 4: you neglected to mention you did a Notre Dame your one, Debriech.

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Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, I Pete Sampson, Yeah, how could I forgot?

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Speaker 4: Because Freeman and the like, Yes, so.

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Speaker 3: You weren't part of that. You weren't part of that.

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Speaker 1: No, I refused, So it felt it felt a little

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Speaker 3: Should we just dive right in?

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Speaker 4: And with that we bring in Matt prem of two

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Speaker 4: four seven Sports of course Duck Territory covering the Oregon Ducks.

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Speaker 4: You can hear him on the Ots and Audibles podcast.

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Speaker 4: They just had Dan Laning on the show. So if

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Speaker 2: Things are Good?

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Speaker 5: Spring is here, So it's craziness of whether kids are

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Speaker 4: Love to hear it. My first question is not even

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Speaker 4: a question, it's vibes colon are there, which I guess

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Speaker 4: signing day, after the first wave of portal signees, and

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Speaker 4: even though the season sort of ended with the Washington

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Speaker 4: and Oregon state disappointments for Oregon fans, what are the

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Speaker 4: current vibes around the program heading into year two.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's vibes. There's good vibes. There's a lot of

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Speaker 5: vibes with this program. Dan Lanning is a different coach

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Speaker 5: than basically all his predecessors, OK, at Oregon.

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Speaker 2: He's out in.

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Speaker 5: The public, he's involved in the community. Mario did a

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Speaker 5: little bit of that. We would see hell Rich and

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Speaker 5: Chip didn't see much time for Taggart even have an opportunity.

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Speaker 5: He just he's at things that he just didn't see

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Speaker 5: Landing and his family and his three kids and his

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Speaker 5: the stands, just hanging out, not a ceremonial first pitch,

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Speaker 5: why Mario would always be That's why you typically see

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Speaker 2: He's just there enjoying football or baseball.

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Speaker 5: We we've seen Dan talk about restaurants in town and

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Speaker 5: publicly say I go here, it's it's a different vibe,

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Speaker 5: and then it's translated onto the football field or I

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Speaker 5: real conversations. They have speakers come in and it's an

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Speaker 5: upbringing how they got to Eugene. They do a lot

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Speaker 5: the position groups went out to breakfast, but this specific group,

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Speaker 2: It's a different vibe with Oregon football lately.

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Speaker 4: So last year a weird season all things concerned. Right,

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Speaker 4: They get demolished to open up the season in Atlanta

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Speaker 4: Bo Nicks looks pretty much excellent all year long until

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Speaker 4: he gets beat up in that Washington game. That's a

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Speaker 4: weird ending to that game, a disappointing one for Oregon fans,

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Speaker 4: I'm sure, certainly the way that the Oregon State game unfolded.

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Speaker 4: But they finish on a high note, both with the

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Speaker 2: You know, you lose two of your final three games and.

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Speaker 5: You know, there were a lot of questions about how

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Speaker 5: You know, they maybe unfairly got tabbed with a being

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Speaker 5: darn impressive. I don't care if you're play in a

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Speaker 5: But you know that kind of is a building block

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Speaker 5: You've won ten games, you won a Bowl game, You've

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Speaker 5: got your star quarterback back, You've got your star running

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Speaker 5: And there's just that internal optimism now that things are

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Speaker 4: So the interesting thing too, I think anybody who watched

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Speaker 4: Oregon was Dan Lanning comes in after coaching an excellent,

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Speaker 4: an all time excellent Georgia defense, and it's the Oregon

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Speaker 4: connection to now former offensive coordinator Kenny Dillingham from Auburn,

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Speaker 4: and he's looked at as the wild card. Can he

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Speaker 4: make it work after having such a turbulent career at

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Speaker 4: Auburn and it just sort of went against type. The

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Speaker 4: mind the next step for the defense? Was it a

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Speaker 4: talent thing, was it a coaching thing? Was it a

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Speaker 4: just year one thing? And is there actually room to

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Speaker 4: grow for bon Nicks now that he is in his

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Speaker 2: There's a lot there.

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Speaker 5: We'll start defensively, Yeah, they were atrocious in getting to

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Speaker 5: the quarterback. Whether that was scheme, whether that was not

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Speaker 5: the players not understanding how to execute the scheme. Probably

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Speaker 5: it was all three of those. They were bad. The

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Speaker 5: worst number from a SAX perspective this season is since

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Speaker 5: I think that has to be taken into consideration because

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Speaker 5: his predecessor, Mario, he showed up at Miami this past

439
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 5: season and there wasn't the expectation that they needed to

440
00:22:56,119 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 5: win the league and when, and that's there, that expectation

441
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 5: is hovering over your head and your first year head coach.

442
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 2: That's tough.

443
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 5: And especially you know, I thought Kirby smart was when

444
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 5: they played Week one and afterwards Kirby had you know,

445
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 5: came out and said that Dan will never admit this publicly,

446
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 5: but he knew we had better players. Like that was

447
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 5: a pretty telling statement. You know, Kirby doesn't say that

448
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,439
Speaker 5: unless he believes it, which is true, which he should believe,

449
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 5: but me, he also is not going to say that

450
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 5: if he doesn't, you know, if he doesn't know Dan

451
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 5: well enough to know what Dan's thinking. That and Oregon

452
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 5: didn't have, you know, enough players that were close to

453
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 5: what Georgia had to even compete. So like the coaching job.

454
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,679
Speaker 5: There were highs winning eight straight, especially after Week one

455
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 5: and how it happened. You have to you have to

456
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 5: praise that that was a big that was a big answer.

457
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 5: I think we learned more over those eight weeks maybe

458
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,400
Speaker 5: than we learned in a while because around the Oregon

459
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 5: football just because I mean Dan Chip Kelly's first game

460
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 5: at Boise State, YEP in two thousand and nine, I

461
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 5: mean I almost think Georgia was worse, and that you

462
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 5: know that Boise game included their star running back throwing

463
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 5: a punch. Actually, game is over. I mean Chip lost

464
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 5: control of the team week one, so that has to

465
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 5: be taken into consideration. That the expectations at Oregon are different.

466
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 5: You know, when coaches lead, because they don't get fired,

467
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 5: they take other head coaching jobs, which, unfortunately for Organs

468
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 5: it is what it is.

469
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Speaker 1: Fair enough, Matt, my beloved co host Stan Rubinstein Proud

470
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Speaker 1: Oregon Alum, initially was very salty about Mario crystal Ball

471
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 1: leaving the salt I feel at this point is pretty

472
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 1: much gone. However, it has marinated into more of a

473
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 1: persistent snark, if you will, a broad yeah, with what

474
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Speaker 1: you know now like a year and a half later,

475
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 1: I guess, how do you feel about the crystal Ball

476
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: era looking back at Oregon and now maybe contrasting that with.

477
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Speaker 3: What we see from Dan Lanning early on.

478
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Speaker 5: I think it's one of those where it's like I

479
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 5: think the Oregon fan base is probably we love you,

480
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,479
Speaker 5: we thank you for what you did, but it's like

481
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 5: a it's like a relative you stayed a couple of

482
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 5: days and it's great, and you stay too long and

483
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 5: all of a sudden things get weird. And that that's

484
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 5: just the vibe that removed with Mario crystal Ball. I

485
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 5: mean he brought forth so many ideas and a lot

486
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 5: of beliefs within the program that hey, yes we are

487
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 5: an Oregon we can we can sign a top ten

488
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 5: recruiting class, and we can do it again and we

489
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 5: can compete for that that.

490
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Speaker 2: That mantra was not.

491
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Speaker 5: Said, uh inside those buildings, inside that building, can you

492
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 5: know and be a believable statement before Mario crystal Ball.

493
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 5: The commitment to building out the staff is a big

494
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 5: thing that Mario crystal Ball brought. I mean, we would

495
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 5: we look at this, like a couple of months ago

496
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 5: on the podcast that Oregon staff like ten years ago

497
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 5: was like fourteen people on the official website that Oregon

498
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 5: has and today it's over forty. I mean the number

499
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 5: is just at you know, grown exponentially, and that's because

500
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 5: of Mario crystaball. But the crystal Ball era also saw

501
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:38,239
Speaker 5: him micro manage everything and he had to have a

502
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 5: hand in everything. He couldn't delegate and allow other people

503
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 5: to do their jobs without the fear.

504
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 2: Of him overlooking.

505
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Speaker 5: The biggest you know, I guess story I've ever had

506
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 5: was I was communcaged me that you know at Oregon,

507
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 5: like he had final approval of every graphic that got

508
00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 5: sent out on socials, and there would be calls at

509
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 5: like two or three am in the morning from Mario

510
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 5: Cristobal because he's working and this isn't good enough.

511
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 2: We need to change here, we need to change there.

512
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 5: And it just got to the point where it was like,

513
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 5: we love you, but man, this is too much, like

514
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 5: you need to let your guys do your jobs. And

515
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 5: so I think at Oregon there's definitely a sense of

516
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 5: you're thankful for the years that you had him, but

517
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 5: you've also got a guy now in place, and Dan

518
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 5: Lanning who's more in balanced, more in tune for a

519
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 5: workflow from a commitment standpoint with what the organ is

520
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 5: and should be.

521
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 1: What do they say, don't don't cry because it's over

522
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: smile because it happened.

523
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 2: Yes, that's exactly. That's exactly the Mario Cristobal era out

524
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,479
Speaker 2: of Oregon. Gotcha, that's a perfect way to say it.

525
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 4: So now, externally, Mario Cristobal recruits crazy well. Chipelli had

526
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 4: good but not great classes top fifteen type classes. Dan

527
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 4: Lanning finished extremely strong, unpunctuated by that picture of him,

528
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 4: you know, smoking the cigar on signing day, the early

529
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 4: signing day. What is the viewpoint on Dan Lanning and

530
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 4: his staff nationally regionally? How does that differ from previous

531
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 4: coaches at Oregon? What you know, is there a difference

532
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 4: in strategy? Is there a difference in relationship building? You know,

533
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,479
Speaker 4: how is how is landing in his staff? How are

534
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 4: they viewed at high schools and by seven on seven

535
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 4: teams and you know, whatever else is out there organizing recruits.

536
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,959
Speaker 4: What what is their general reputation and perhaps how does

537
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 4: that differ.

538
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 5: It's high, It's it's very high. I would compare it

539
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 5: to being similar to Mario crystal Balls reputation.

540
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 2: Being an avid recruiter. Dan Lanning is.

541
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Speaker 5: Involved in a lot of these recruitments, especially the big

542
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 5: you know, the high guys. Their strategies are the same.

543
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 5: Mario basically said, we're going to have staff turnover. I

544
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 5: don't want one one coach being in charge of one recruit.

545
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 5: The whole staff is involved. Landing does the same thing there.

546
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 5: We've also seen the importance of getting prospects to Eugene

547
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 5: unofficially for visits, really pushing that. I think Maria did

548
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 5: a really good job, and Landing built upon that and

549
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 5: expanded it more. There were like six or seven five

550
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 5: star recruits that rolled through Eugene during the month of

551
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 5: January this past January, and I can't recall that many

552
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 5: guys from an underclassman standpoint rolling through Eugene before. It

553
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 5: was pretty surreal to see his ability and his staff's

554
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 5: ability to get guys here and then.

555
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 2: Do it consistently, do it over and over again.

556
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 5: Because it's one thing when you coach at Georgia and

557
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 5: you've got fifteen five stars over three recruiting classes that

558
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 5: are all four hour, five hour drives, it's easy to,

559
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 5: you know, over a four five month span, to talk

560
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 5: to those parents say hey, the drive over, you know,

561
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 5: spend the afternoon here, you know, spend the night, check

562
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 5: us out in the morning and then go home, you know,

563
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 5: a quick one day trip.

564
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 2: You can't do that in Eugene.

565
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 5: I mean, you've you've got a couple three stars, a

566
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 5: couple of four stars, and maybe your occasional five that's

567
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 5: in the Pacific Northwest. So his ability, his staff's ability

568
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 5: to get kids here, whether it's from Arizona. They hit

569
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 5: Arizona really hard, and when Dillingham left, there was definitely

570
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 5: that feeling of, oh, maybe these guys are going to

571
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 5: see a little dip in activity in the state of

572
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 5: Arizona now, like their offers are still out there strong.

573
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 5: They're still getting guys to come up for unofficial, for

574
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 5: official visits. They've got a verbal commit already in twenty

575
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 5: twenty four from an Arizona prospect.

576
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 2: There's a couple more that they look really good for.

577
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 2: So they're making inroads.

578
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 5: There that, you know, beyond Kennye Dillingham, they still recruit

579
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 5: the Southeast.

580
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 2: They still recruit the state of Florida.

581
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 5: Satana Moss, a kid from Florida in the twenty twenty

582
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 5: five classes, committed to Orgon.

583
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: He was here this past weekend for an unofficial visit.

584
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 2: He's been committed for a couple of weeks now, so

585
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 2: that they're still recruiting at a national level.

586
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 5: They're still recruiting Southern California really well, like Murray crust

587
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 5: of Baal did, and I just think the best way

588
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 5: to expand on it is he's just built off of

589
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 5: what was in place, the infrastructure that was in place here.

590
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 5: He kept on Johnson, one of the directors player in

591
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 5: personnel out Oregon under Mario. That was one of the

592
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 5: first things that he did. He kept him on staff

593
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 5: and didn't let him go to Miami or anyone else.

594
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 5: He up the contract, gave him a long term deal.

595
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 5: Marshall Malkau's director of the chief of Staff. I should

596
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 5: say he's been instrumental.

597
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 2: So it's basically building upon the infrastructure and expanding it

598
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 2: out and just making it even better. Now is his.

599
00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 5: Ability to finish like Mario has last couple of cycles

600
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 5: out of Oregon.

601
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: He always would have a big bang on signing day.

602
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 5: We thought it was going to be like that this

603
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 5: past year with bowen Uh and a couple other guys

604
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 5: that they were involved in Hicks, but we'll see. It's

605
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 5: it's one full year through the cycle. This year they're

606
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 5: off to a good start, It's not the greatest, it's

607
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 5: certainly could be a lot worse too, And I imagine

608
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 5: hearing in Mack six weeks, we'll have a better idea

609
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 5: of where the class's potential could be.

610
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 4: At, perhaps more than other schools. There is money looming

611
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 4: over Oregon's program, and with money comes influence, comes opinions.

612
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 4: What is the opinion of the current state of Oregon

613
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 4: football from I say, in a shadowy way, the money right,

614
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 4: whether it's Phil Knight, whether it's the Pape family, whether

615
00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 4: it's whoever, Pat Kilkenny, Dan Landing inexperience does a head

616
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 4: coach Mario Christabal has the experience comes from a big program.

617
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 4: Of course, Willie Taggart has head coaching experience, had West

618
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 4: Coast experience. Chip Kelly had experienced within the program before

619
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 4: taking over as head coach. Mark Helfrich has experienced within

620
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 4: the program before taking over. Dan Lanning had no connection.

621
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 4: So is the money Are they squarely in the corner

622
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 4: of Dan Lanning and the direction of the program. Are

623
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 4: they happy? Are they thrilled? What? What is What is

624
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 4: the opinion behind the scenes of where this program is?

625
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 2: Uh, there's very little pressure on Dan Lanning to be.

626
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 5: I mean there's pressure, yes, but he's not having to

627
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 5: go and win over their you know, their approval where

628
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 5: you know.

629
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Speaker 2: The big boosters at Oregon love Dan Lanning.

630
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 5: Uh and in large part, Yeah, the success on the field,

631
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 5: that's always going to be.

632
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 2: Important and probably the most important thing.

633
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 5: But what I went back to at the very beginning

634
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 5: of the vibes like this dude's just a different cat.

635
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 2: I mean, he's my age. I'm assuming he's close to

636
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 2: all three of us, and.

637
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 4: I'm a very very young guy. Continue I'm in my

638
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 4: mid to late thirties four.

639
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 5: But I mean, he's just a different dude, and he's cool.

640
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 5: He's a guy that that that golf, he goes to

641
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 5: sporting events, he's out exploring the state of Oregon. He's

642
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 5: made it a point to really entrench himself into the community.

643
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 5: And to go back on that touch on something when

644
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,760
Speaker 5: he first arrived, he called Kid Sports. It's an organization

645
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 5: in Eugene. Dan may be aware of it, but they

646
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 5: basically run the biggest youth leagues you know, in town

647
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 5: for Eugene Springfield, in the surrounding communities of the area,

648
00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 5: whether it's football, basketball, lacrosse, baseball, whatever. They run all

649
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 5: these leagues. And he called them and said, I want

650
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 5: all your kids, I want all their families to come

651
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 5: watch a spring football practice on behalf of Oregon.

652
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 2: We're going to give you guys a full tour at

653
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 2: the facility. What ae YadA YadA. Your kids look up

654
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 2: to my players as role models. It's our opportunity to

655
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Speaker 2: introduce our guys to you. And they called back and said,

656
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Speaker 2: we'd love to do it. What do you need from us?

657
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Speaker 2: And he said nothing. And the person in charge is

658
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Speaker 2: Ben Smith.

659
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Speaker 5: She said, like, you realize that's like thousands of people

660
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Speaker 5: that you're inviting and you don't need anything from us.

661
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,760
Speaker 5: And he said, nope, We'll provide drinks, we'll provide pizza,

662
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 5: we'll provide snacks.

663
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Speaker 2: We'll have enough people in.

664
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Speaker 5: Here to give everyone a tour to make sure that

665
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Speaker 5: everyone feels personable.

666
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Speaker 2: And then they did that. They brought them out to

667
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 2: the football Heeld they watched practice. It was a warm

668
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 2: day that day.

669
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Speaker 5: I was there for the practice and Dan Lanning was

670
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 5: the first one to rush over to the gate that

671
00:35:55,520 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 5: they basically separated the fans and.

672
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 2: The practice and the players on the practice.

673
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 5: Field and tore down the gate and yell at all

674
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 5: the kids get on the football field, play with my kids.

675
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 5: And that is why I think all of the big

676
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 5: money people at Oregon are all in on Dan, because

677
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 5: he's truly made it a point at a school where

678
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 5: this scene ship Kelly go to the NFL that had

679
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,959
Speaker 5: to fire Mark Lfritch, who was an in state guy.

680
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 5: They saw Willie Taggart league within a year, and then

681
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 5: Mario Cristobal year and after year, demanding more, saying he's

682
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 5: committed to Oregon, eventually leaving to go cross country to

683
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 5: go home. There's now a guy in place who's like

684
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 5: legitimately going out of his way to make it clear

685
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 5: that his family is enriched into the community. He's all

686
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 5: in on the community. He's all in on Oregon. And

687
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 5: that goes a long ways. And I would be utterly

688
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 5: shocked if I bumped into anyone that was a big

689
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 5: money player from a boosterer perspective at Oregon that was

690
00:36:58,400 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 5: upset at Dan Lannings.

691
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 4: First, the big story these past couple off seasons, and

692
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 4: all of what you're saying resonates with me, But the

693
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 4: big story over these past couple off seasons has been

694
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 4: the shadow over schools, not moving to the Big ten,

695
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 4: not moving to the SEC, and not playing on what

696
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 4: is perceived to be the biggest stages, and rightfully so

697
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 4: within the sport. Organ's a major program. They've played for

698
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 4: national championships, they have a Heisman winner in the last decade,

699
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 4: they spend a lot of money, They've got the Nike branding.

700
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 4: Everything is there for Orgon as a national program, and

701
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 4: yet there is a I think a shadow of uncertainty

702
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 4: over the program and the program's future just in terms

703
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 4: of where they play, not that if they'll play. Is

704
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 4: any of that internal? Is any of that something that's

705
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 4: discussed within the program as for we're doing everything we can,

706
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 4: but now we are being perceived to be in a

707
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 4: disad disadvantaged place because the heavyweight program, so the heavyweight

708
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 4: city within the conference, is moving on. Is that something

709
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 4: that lingers within the program at all.

710
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 5: I think there's definitely like an acknowledgment of that happening

711
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 5: a little bit that usc uc are leaving, and you

712
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 5: know the conference is going to take a dip again

713
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 5: from a strength standpoint nationally. But I think Oregon is

714
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 5: in a unique position where they know they've got the boosters,

715
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 5: where the.

716
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 2: Money gap and it's going to be ginormous.

717
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 5: It's going to be a gap bigger than the Grand

718
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 5: Canyon from a money standpoint, that the big ten schools,

719
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 5: the SEC schools are getting and what will be the

720
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Speaker 5: Pac ten schools.

721
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,720
Speaker 2: Maybe they expand twelve again, maybe they expand the fourteen.

722
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 2: Who knows, but the money gap is going to be

723
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 2: big between those two.

724
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 5: You know, the haves and the have nots, you could say,

725
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 5: but I think out of organ at least internally, from

726
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 5: the money, there's always that idea that the money can step.

727
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 2: In and fill the gap.

728
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 5: And from at least from a short perspective, I think

729
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 5: there's a lot of people out of Oregon that say,

730
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 5: why can't we just become Clemson of the West. Why

731
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 5: can't we just if the playoff is expanding and all

732
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 5: we need to do is win the league. Yes, having

733
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 5: more money from the money rights deals is going to

734
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 5: be huge. It's eventually going to catch up to Oregon

735
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 5: and hurt them. But from a short term perspective, and

736
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 5: short term could be five, ten years, I don't know.

737
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: But from a short.

738
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 5: Term perspective, why can't they be the Clemson of the

739
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 5: West and basically dominate the West Coast and dominate whatever

740
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 5: is left of what the.

741
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 2: PAC twelve will be and every year or majority of

742
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 2: the years get into the playoff as whatever. See because

743
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 2: you're the representative of the pack X conference. Why can't

744
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 2: they do that?

745
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 5: I think that's the big notion right now is you

746
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 5: take out USC, you take out UCLA, and from a

747
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 5: brand perspective, from an on field perspective, there really is

748
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 5: no challenger that's left you. You know there's one. There's

749
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 5: schools that maybe have one side of it, like Utaw

750
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 5: certainly is more consistent or as consistent as an organ

751
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 5: from a winning on the field perspective, but they will

752
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 5: come nowhere close from a brand perspective and a recruiting

753
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 5: scope and national reach that Oregon has.

754
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 2: Washington is kind of in both.

755
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 5: Categories, but they're still below what organ is right now.

756
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,439
Speaker 5: So I think that's kind of where the Ducks sit,

757
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 5: is that there's really no true equal or school. It's

758
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 5: even better like a USC in those regards than Oregon,

759
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 5: and you have to see at least where it goes.

760
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 2: And you just would think.

761
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Speaker 5: That in five, ten, fifteen years, whenever college football or

762
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Speaker 5: college athletics finds its final shape that organ will be included,

763
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 5: which they should be.

764
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Speaker 1: Matt, you mentioned that Dan Landing in a sense is

765
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Speaker 1: just like us. He likes to golf, he likes to

766
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: do normal people things. What is Dan Lanning shoot at

767
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 1: Bandon Dunes.

768
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 2: It's a good question. I have it on good authority

769
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 2: that he played a local course in Eugene and was

770
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 2: not very good. Really, so he's probably truly one of us.

771
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and why why why.

772
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: Should he be like an elite golfer.

773
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 4: Maybe it'd be weird if you were terrific, of course.

774
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, if Dan Lanny's a scratch golfer, there's probably a

775
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 1: deeper issue here with respect to Oregon football.

776
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. So but dudes, I would say something under one

777
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 2: hundred that would be.

778
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 3: I mean, that'd be respectable, respectable.

779
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he was, I was. I haven't told. He

780
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 2: frequents a golf course in the Eugene area.

781
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Speaker 5: And some days he looks good, some days he looks

782
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 5: really bad, like one of us.

783
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Speaker 4: So been there, all right, Matt Preme of Duck Territory

784
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 4: two four seven Sports and the Aughts and Audibles podcast.

785
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 4: The vibes are strong on the show. The vibes are

786
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 4: strong within the Oregon Ducks program. Matt, thank you so

787
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 4: much for your time.

788
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 2: Absolutely all right, Dan, there you go.

789
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: Matt prem Yeh's in Audibles is the name of his podcast.

790
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 3: Awesome podcast logo. Have you seen it?

791
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 4: I have, Well, I'm mixed on it, ty because it's

792
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 4: what the duck hunt look So that's what Oregon opponents

793
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 4: and Oregon fans of Oregon opponents like to use.

794
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: But it's interesting, it's provocative, right, the ducks are flying

795
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 1: though they're ducks filling out by the little dog.

796
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:23,439
Speaker 4: They're good.

797
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: Go and check out Oughts and Audibles. If only for

798
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: the podcast logo, and of course Matt's insight, we appreciate

799
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: his time.

800
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Speaker 3: Duck Territory twenty four to seven Sports.

801
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: Matt's been doing God's work on the Oregon beat for

802
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: god knows how long. He does a great job. Is

803
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: there anything that he said that you disagree with?

804
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 4: Not especially the Bonnix thing I disagree with. Maybe just

805
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 4: because he looked so good last year and that was

806
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 4: year one getting acclimated to a new place that I

807
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 4: don't necessarily think that you know, it was going to

808
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 4: be a one off thing, because you know, look, Oregon

809
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 4: loses a bunch offensive linemen. They lose their offensive line coach.

810
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 4: They've had some transfers on offense, but the core of

811
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,439
Speaker 4: everybody else, you know, the receiving corps, the running backs

812
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 4: that were excellent last year. Bucky Irving was the headliner

813
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,439
Speaker 4: there that allowed Oregon to succeed downfield and play action

814
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 4: like they were able to do. It's a new look.

815
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 4: It's the new offensive line coach that comes in. I

816
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 4: believe was a GA at Oregon, so he's familiar with

817
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 4: these players, and he was going to go to I

818
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 4: think coach defense for the Vikings of Minnesota Vikings and

819
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 4: Camp was hired back. So I think the familiarity the

820
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 4: report that I think Bonnicks will have as receivers will

821
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 4: even grow further, and his familiarity with the conference will

822
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 4: grow further. So I'm not terribly worried about Bonix. I

823
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 4: think he's probably going to be one of the best

824
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 4: three or four quarterbacks in the country this year, with

825
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 4: a chance to have a really special season. But otherwise, no,

826
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Speaker 4: I think he nailed that. The defense was atrocious on

827
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 4: all three levels at different times. They started the year

828
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 4: off in embarrassing fashion and really didn't belong on the

829
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 4: field with the eventual national champ and the way that

830
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 4: they lost the Washington and Oregon State games, you know,

831
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 4: blowing the Oregon State game and really blowing the Washington game.

832
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 4: But that's at least you can, you know, point to

833
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,720
Speaker 4: bo Nix's injury late in that game. Was a pretty

834
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 4: horrendous watch for me. I made videos after each of

835
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 4: those games. You can go back and watch the soul

836
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 4: leaving my organ They did well.

837
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 3: Those videos did really well.

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00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 4: They do very well. Anytime Oregon loses. People like to

839
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 4: see me misery, like to see my misery. So no,

840
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 4: I think he nailed everything there, and I thought it

841
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 4: was fascinating to hear how Dan Lanning has sort of

842
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 4: ingratiated himself to a community that is always waving goodbye

843
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 4: to head coaches for one reason or another. So I

844
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 4: thought that was a positive bit of insight there. I

845
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 4: think I'm pretty much aligned with him. I'm I'm optimistic

846
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 4: and it's a great year of quarterbacks in the Pac twelve,

847
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 4: this final year for the LA schools, but between Caleb

848
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 4: Williams and Cam Rising and Michael Pennix the Arizona Schools obviously,

849
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 4: I mean Arizona has Jaden DeLaura. Who am I missing here?

850
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 4: That just the high level guys within the conference. We'll

851
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,479
Speaker 4: see what happens at Colorado. You know, quarterback is generally

852
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 4: pretty good under Chip Kelly, It's going to be a

853
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 4: very good year for the Pac twelve, the final year

854
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 4: of the Pac twelve as we know it, Oregon should

855
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 4: be deeper and better on defense. We'll see in that secondary,

856
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 4: we'll see a linebacker. But I think that first full

857
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 4: off season for this staff and for Dan Lanning, I

858
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,240
Speaker 4: think the defense will be fine. I think the defense

859
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 4: will largely be fine. They won't be great. They won't

860
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 4: they probably won't be good, they'll be fine. And so

861
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 4: I think Oregon should win double digit games this year,

862
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 4: provided health provided. Essentially offensive line is at least pretty good.

863
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 3: I gotta be honest.

864
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: I'm still reeling from the fact that he brought up

865
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 1: that there's a Santana Moss junior.

866
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 4: Class of twenty twenty five. I had no idea Santana

867
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 4: Moss has a kid. I no clue.

868
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 1: I'm still reeling from the fact that I'm old enough

869
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: to start seeing juniors move through the college football rank.

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00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: I understand, well, yeah, we'll see what happens the Oregon

871
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:05,959
Speaker 1: schedule as we look forward into twenty twenty three, there's

872
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Speaker 1: a road tilt here at Washington, there's a road tilt

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Speaker 1: here at Utah. They've got USC on the schedule as well.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a workable schedule. You're going to have

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Speaker 1: some land mines on it, for sure, but all things considered,

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Speaker 1: I think attracts pretty nicely. With your expectation that ten wins,

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Speaker 1: nine wins seems like it should be very attainable for

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Speaker 1: this team. I would have to believe, given Dan Lanning's

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Speaker 1: expertise as a defensive mind, he's going to find a

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Speaker 1: way to infuse that defense with more talent, get things

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Speaker 1: to click in a way that maybe they didn't for

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Speaker 1: Noah's soul or justin flow. As mentioned by Matt So,

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Speaker 1: I have high expectations on the defensive side of the ball,

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Speaker 1: and of course bo Nix is still there.

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Speaker 3: We will have an opportunity. It was a great unknown.

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Speaker 1: You know, whenever we have these unexpected results in sports,

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Speaker 1: it makes for a great story, and bow Knicks was

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Speaker 1: one of them this past season. But we will now

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Speaker 1: have an opportunity to see was it Pixie dust? Was

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Speaker 1: it a one year thing. Keep in mind, he's got

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Speaker 1: a new offensive coordinator, Will Stein comes up from UTSA.

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Speaker 1: What will that system look like? Will look any different?

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Speaker 1: How will Bonnicks mesh with it?

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Speaker 3: It remains one of the.

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Speaker 1: More fascinating watches for me on the college football on

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Speaker 1: the entire college football beat. I'm not an Oregon guy,

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Speaker 1: You're the organ guy among us here, but there's just

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Speaker 1: so much intrigued to me as we look ahead to

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Speaker 1: what does Dan Lanning do next? Not to mention all

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Speaker 1: the steam and the recruiting and the transfer portal game,

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Speaker 1: you know, he's definitely kicking up a lot of dust

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Speaker 1: in Eugene.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So the fascinating thing with Orgon specifically, And there's

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Speaker 4: a couple of schools like this as well, not you know,

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Speaker 4: the least of which Arizona State is in a similar situation.

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Speaker 4: We're looking ahead to the Final Four right this coming

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Speaker 4: weekend in a few days, and the story of college

908
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 4: basketball is just every team looks different every season. And

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Speaker 4: I believe half of Oregon's roster approximately is turning over.

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Speaker 4: They are adding between the recruiting class and transfer, something

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Speaker 4: like forty new scholarship plans as they turn things over,

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Speaker 4: So Landing in his staff didn't look at last year's

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Speaker 4: team and say, Okay, let's let's keep on moving forward

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Speaker 4: with these guys, and I think we we like what

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Speaker 4: we have. No, they are, they are pushing things forward.

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Speaker 4: They're bringing in guys that they feel like can compete

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Speaker 4: or are just flat out better than where the roster

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Speaker 4: is right now. And they are They're not resting on

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Speaker 4: their laurels. So you'd rather be the adders than the

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Speaker 4: ad ease right that. You know, you don't want to,

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Speaker 4: you know, just hope for the best, and Oregon is

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Speaker 4: quite aggressive in that in that regard, so it'll be fascinating.

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Speaker 4: I really have no idea what to expect. I don't

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Speaker 4: know which freshmen are going to contribute right away. I

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Speaker 4: don't know how the portal guys are going to work out.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how the new offensive line. You know,

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Speaker 4: you've got a couple of top top flight offensive line

928
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Speaker 4: transfers coming in. How they're going to be affected with

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Speaker 4: you know, a new co defensive coordinator, new offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 4: There's just a ton new So really the story of

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Speaker 4: the spring, summer and fall camps are just going to

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Speaker 4: be the word would be gel you know, is everybody

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Speaker 4: quickly gelling.

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Speaker 1: Matt Priam again, we thank him for his time, for

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Speaker 1: his wisdom. Don't forget to go on out and check

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Speaker 1: out his work, Oughts and Audibles, the podcast two four seven, Sports,

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Speaker 1: Duck Territory, the Works. If you are ever interested on

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Speaker 1: the Oregon side of things, Matt can hook you up

939
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Speaker 1: with his insight.

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Speaker 3: We're going to continue doing our year one debrief series.

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Speaker 3: We've got more to come.

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Speaker 1: If you've got suggestions for folks that you would like

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Speaker 1: to see us talk with, give us a hollor soliverbal

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Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. We are also all across social media.

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Speaker 1: You can always reach out send us a message there.

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Speaker 1: Would love your input on how we can move the

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Speaker 1: conversation forward with some of these other teams that had

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Speaker 1: Year one coaches. In the meantime, they'll make sure you

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Speaker 1: subscribe to our podcast so that you don't miss any

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Speaker 1: episodes as we continue on through the long cold months

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Speaker 1: of the offseason. You know it would be spring football

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Speaker 1: before you know, we got the draft. We're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about the draft. I don't want to talk about

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Speaker 1: May because nothing happens in May. Nothing ever happens in May.

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Speaker 1: But once you start getting into June and July, that's

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Speaker 1: when that's when things start to percolate. So it'll be

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Speaker 1: here before you know it. At least here the weather

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Speaker 1: is starting to shift a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Look at you.

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Speaker 3: At least here the.

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Speaker 1: Weather's starting to shift a little bit, and it's starting

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Speaker 1: to feel like the seasons are moving along. And give

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Speaker 1: me hope that color football is not quite around the corner,

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Speaker 1: but the corner is getting closer.

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Speaker 4: Let's say, Yeah, it's creeping.

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Speaker 1: All right, it's cool, I have Make sure you hit subscribe,

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Speaker 1: make sure you check out for Ballers dot com. We appreciate,

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Speaker 1: as always, everyone's support. Continue downloading the show as we

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Speaker 1: continue talking about all things. Your debris for that guy

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Speaker 1: with there, Dan rubenst for myself, Tie hilden Brand. Thanks again,

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Speaker 1: it as always stays solid Peace