WEBVTT - Hour 2 -Scott Miller (05-25-20)

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio. Welcome inside hour two of the program. Jason

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<v Speaker 1>Smith and Doug Gottlieb in for Dan and the Dan X.

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<v Speaker 1>On today, Happy Memorial Day, and uh, you know today, Doug,

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<v Speaker 1>it's always it's always fun to be around my dad.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fun to be around my dad every day, well

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<v Speaker 1>not most some days it's not. But Memorial Day. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>my dad served in the military. He was in Vietnam.

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<v Speaker 1>He was in the Navy, and he has the best

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<v Speaker 1>Memorial Day joke I've ever heard that never fails to

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<v Speaker 1>just capture everybody's attention and he gives you the punchline

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just, oh my god, you can't kin tell

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<v Speaker 1>you real fast. Yeah, it's okay. So, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>my dad was in Vietnam. He's on his ship. The

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<v Speaker 1>USS to Louth was his ship. And one of the

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<v Speaker 1>best things in his life, He'll tell you, was when

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<v Speaker 1>he moved out here and we went to visit his

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<v Speaker 1>ship because it was docked in San Diego and he

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<v Speaker 1>walked on he's telling all these stories. I'm going, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, it was. It was the greatest thing in

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<v Speaker 1>his life. And this is the first time I heard

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<v Speaker 1>the joke, and he'll tell it in mixed company and

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't seem like a joke, and and and he

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<v Speaker 1>kind of gets people. He goes, do I ever tell

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<v Speaker 1>you about the time I saved the lives of all

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred and forty three people on my ship? And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when I go no, and when someone else

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<v Speaker 1>hears it, you don't know, Okay, wow, Well what's this

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<v Speaker 1>going to be like? Is this a joke? Is this

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<v Speaker 1>something else? What's gonna be I don't know. He goes yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he goes yeah, and he gets you know, then he

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<v Speaker 1>stops for a second, and he was waiting for someone

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<v Speaker 1>to ask him, you know what you do? It's in

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<v Speaker 1>very whether it was being something else, like what you do?

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<v Speaker 1>He says, I threw the cook overboard. And then it

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<v Speaker 1>takes people a second and then they go oh. And

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<v Speaker 1>he never fails, never I've seen him tell it, I

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<v Speaker 1>know fifty times. Never fails to get to get a

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<v Speaker 1>big response, it's going, I like it threw the cook overboard. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>yea to anyone who has served or people who continue

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<v Speaker 1>to serve, like from both me and Jason, everybody Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio, that's a pretty amazing and selfless thing that

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<v Speaker 1>that you do, and it's it's fast day. We talked

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<v Speaker 1>about being a dad, you know, like I'm my son

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<v Speaker 1>is doing revolutionary war history and you know, we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about these things, and we start talking about the service,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said, you know, do you have to go

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<v Speaker 1>to the service. It's like, no, it's a volunteer army.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like people volunteer for that. It's like, yeah, well

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<v Speaker 1>they get paid for it, because how much. I like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know not. I mean, it's it's a good job.

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<v Speaker 1>There's really good benefits, but you know, there's things you

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<v Speaker 1>have to surrender and and give up. He's like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>those people are awesome. I go, yes, they are awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>So today is the day in which you are You

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<v Speaker 1>should be awesome every day, right, It's like Mother's day. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>If if Mother's Day is the only day you tell

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<v Speaker 1>your mom you're awesome, you're probably not doing a great job.

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<v Speaker 1>If today is the only day you're telling a military

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<v Speaker 1>a service member you're awesome, then you're not doing a

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<v Speaker 1>good job. But there's there's nothing wrong with telling people

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<v Speaker 1>you're they're awesome today. And did your son ask you dad?

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<v Speaker 1>So was Alexander Hamilton really that important the Revolutionary War,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's what I was. Hamilton's really that important because

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know the play and everything. Was he

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<v Speaker 1>that big? It was never president, wasn't it? Go No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't, but he was important. But it's great, you

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<v Speaker 1>know you're talking about doing Revolutionary War. Kids are growing

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<v Speaker 1>up now with a completely different look at American history, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Washington was the president, but man Hamilton, Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>all those great songs, Hamilton really was the guy behind everything. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my kids don't know Hamilton he was. He's doing He

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<v Speaker 1>has a John Adams presentation, which is funny because a

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<v Speaker 1>good friend of mine, John Adams, used to be ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of the NCAA referees, right, and says, I'm immediately thinking

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<v Speaker 1>of him, Like we could have John Adams and we

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<v Speaker 1>could do his history, and just go, I thought you

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<v Speaker 1>said John Adams. I didn't know John Adams was the

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<v Speaker 1>first one termer. He's only one term president. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>every you said that, he's doing a thing on John Adams.

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<v Speaker 1>Anybody's seen Hamilton just went, oh, man, John Adams, what

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<v Speaker 1>a waste he was. Because that's now everybody thinks of

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<v Speaker 1>John Adams. He was you know, he was short, and

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<v Speaker 1>he you know, one term and he was a bad president.

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<v Speaker 1>When before nobody really had any thoughts about John Adams. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was Washington and then it was Adams, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it was Jefferson and then it was but you just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of just blow by John Adams. And now he's

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<v Speaker 1>got a much different history look back at him. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>So this weekend we had to have big things from

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<v Speaker 1>Troy Vincent on the NFL and they were returning a second.

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<v Speaker 1>But did you see Eli Manning joined Twitter this weekend

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<v Speaker 1>and and got roasted by Tom Brady. Yes, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that that Twitter is gonna be for Eli. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like he's seeing some of his tweets. He has

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<v Speaker 1>the Jimmy Chitwood tweet and and you know, talking about

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<v Speaker 1>trying and coming on social media. I don't know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that he has the the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>personality for all the what he's going to get in

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<v Speaker 1>this timeline from fans when he says something, he's going, boy,

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<v Speaker 1>look at what these people are telling me to go

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<v Speaker 1>do to myself. Well, I don't know about I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know about Twitter. Yeah, I'm kind of nervous for Eli. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like, look the you're assuming that he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>read his mentions and that he's gonna be on it

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. And I think a lot of these

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<v Speaker 1>guys with Twitter sometimes they'll, you know, during an event,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll get on it, but they probably have a publicist

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<v Speaker 1>who handles it as well. I would agree with you,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's a weird time to get on it, but

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<v Speaker 1>he got on it right right when his brother's playing

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<v Speaker 1>on TV playing golf. I really like the Manning family.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously the way in which they're they're kind

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<v Speaker 1>of portrayed is immensely likable. But god, they're they're just

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<v Speaker 1>they're funny. They're really like funny in a natural way,

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<v Speaker 1>and they see the aw shucks thing kind of does

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<v Speaker 1>does work for him. I don't know if it's real

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<v Speaker 1>or not, but I my little time I spent with Peyton,

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<v Speaker 1>it feels real. Um. But I like them, and I

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<v Speaker 1>like Eli on Twitter, especially if he can If if

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<v Speaker 1>somebody somebody sends him a picture of Eli face, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't wait to hear what his response is. How much

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<v Speaker 1>how much do you look at your ats when you're

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter? You look at them a lot once in

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<v Speaker 1>a while every day. How much you look at him? Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>very rarely. Now, I used to live look, I used

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of live in that that realm. You go

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<v Speaker 1>back maybe five six years ago. I was probably too

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<v Speaker 1>much in my mentions and you know, trying to respond

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<v Speaker 1>to what people were saying now and very very little

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<v Speaker 1>you Once in a while, I will sometimes it depends.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go through and see if anybody that I follow

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<v Speaker 1>or or with a with a blue check mark that's

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<v Speaker 1>in the in the industry with us, We'll say something like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh okay, you know, they'll come back and say things,

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<v Speaker 1>and but you know, it really kind of depends. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it just kind of depends on the mood I'm in.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, only go through and see what's being said

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<v Speaker 1>if I see And but a lot of times I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I kind of know how things are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go here, So I'm just gonna say what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say on social media and then I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>back off for a while. And then uh, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it checked the ads another time. It just it just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of depends on my mood. And then sometimes I'll

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<v Speaker 1>go and say, oh, this is really cool, and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>say on my ads for a while and I'll answer

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<v Speaker 1>questions and then sometimes I'll just go, Yep, nope, I'm good.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go do something else. I'm just gonna just

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<v Speaker 1>wipe my hands of it and walk away. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think Eli is gonna wind up having to do that

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, just just because I can't. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just picturing him trying to get through and people

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<v Speaker 1>are taking what people are gonna say about him in

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<v Speaker 1>his lifetime record and all this stuff, and you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>end up, you didn't go visit Plexico, burst and jail.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that's gonna come up, and it's gonna be whoa, whoa,

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<v Speaker 1>whoa whoa. Like I think he's gonna be surprised by

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing. Yes, Like you're just sometimes you're like, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>what happened here? Like you like, I have no idea

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<v Speaker 1>what I stepped into. It is a it's a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it's like sometimes listening to the gym Rome show,

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<v Speaker 1>where you if you haven't listened in years, you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know what they're talking about, right, They're

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<v Speaker 1>making references the thing, like I don't know what they're

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<v Speaker 1>like I gotta get out of this saying I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what they're talking about, Like if you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't been on social media and like you're not aware,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, if you don't know of who was

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<v Speaker 1>it was it Nelly who had the bad audio with

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<v Speaker 1>um he was doing a live like wrap off with

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<v Speaker 1>somebody going back to last week, like right again, like

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't know that exists, you're sitting there going

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<v Speaker 1>like why are people talking about Nelly? Why? I don't

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<v Speaker 1>understand this? Moving on, I do think it can be

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit you can feel like many of us feel.

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<v Speaker 1>We watched the Grammys, right, We're like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>any of these albums. I don't the end of these artists.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't watch this thing. That's why I think sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like when you're on Twitter, what is this?

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<v Speaker 1>What is this roney that keeps trending? Why is Real

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<v Speaker 1>Housewives of New York? Why is that on there? Why?

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<v Speaker 1>Why is analyst trending? I don't understand? Like it's He's

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<v Speaker 1>like it's like it's a whole new world that's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be opened up for him. Yep, So Troy Vincent, this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty interesting thing. H Vincent is the NFL's head of

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<v Speaker 1>football operation, has been head of football operations going on

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<v Speaker 1>seven years now, and he gave a pretty big statement

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend by saying that the NFL is planning for

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<v Speaker 1>full stadiums this year quote until the medical community tells

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<v Speaker 1>us otherwise. And when I see this from Troy Vincent, Doug,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, Okay, I know what's going on. The NFL

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<v Speaker 1>is not going to play in September. They're not. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean when they have their plan that they threw out there,

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of idly that Roger Goodell said, well, we

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<v Speaker 1>have a plan for the middle of October that would

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<v Speaker 1>take the NFL season through till the end of February,

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<v Speaker 1>played the Super Bowl the end of February. But that

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<v Speaker 1>that that's our plan. Be the more time that goes on,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the plan a all right, Because first

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<v Speaker 1>of all, you have the NFL is not paused at

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<v Speaker 1>all during the coronavirus pandemic. Right, They didn't pause for

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<v Speaker 1>free agency, that didn't pause for the draft, that didn't

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<v Speaker 1>pause to release the schedule. They have been a full boar.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going ahead with our season. This is how we're

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<v Speaker 1>doing it, and so if you're not stopping at all,

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<v Speaker 1>but you have this plan for October, and now you

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<v Speaker 1>hear Troy Vincent saying we're planning on full stadiums. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know that you're gonna get the okay to do

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<v Speaker 1>that in the beginning of September and when you're playing

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<v Speaker 1>exhibition games in the month of August. But by the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the year, which is when doctor Anthony Fauci

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<v Speaker 1>had said, I could see some people coming back to

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<v Speaker 1>football games towards the end of the year. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's the NFL's a plan. I don't think they have

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<v Speaker 1>any they're operating under any illusion they're going to actually

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<v Speaker 1>play the beginning of September, we're gonna have the Thursday

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<v Speaker 1>night kickoff, and then we're gonna go. I think we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go the middle of October. Week five is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the beginning. We're gonna get Tom Brady on

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<v Speaker 1>that Thursday night game because that's the Thursday night Week

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<v Speaker 1>five game, and they're gonna flip the first four weeks

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the calendar. If if I had all

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<v Speaker 1>my money had to push it on one of those dates,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say NFL's mid October is really their plan.

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<v Speaker 1>A I'm gonna disagree with you. I think they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have I think they'll be fine. I just I just

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<v Speaker 1>do I I'm please, don't think that I'm a denier

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<v Speaker 1>of what COVID has been and the number of deaths

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<v Speaker 1>right Like, It's like you'll get people saying, well, you

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<v Speaker 1>know the flu, Like, look, if you actually do some research,

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<v Speaker 1>the flu numbers aren't real numbers. It's a it's a

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<v Speaker 1>it's a calculation based upon spikes in deaths during a

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<v Speaker 1>certain time of the year when when flu is present.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what it is. These are real numbers in a

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<v Speaker 1>short period of time. The one hundred thousand people you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about, So I have full respect for that. And

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<v Speaker 1>I and the flattening the curve was is a is

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<v Speaker 1>of utmost importance. And I don't know whether we flattened enough,

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<v Speaker 1>we should have weighed longer or whatever. I just I

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<v Speaker 1>don't see us going back into quarantine. I don't see

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<v Speaker 1>it going I could be wrong. I reserve the right

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<v Speaker 1>to be wrong. I don't see us going back to

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<v Speaker 1>that point. And I don't see the NFL not having

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<v Speaker 1>games or pushing back their game, pushing back their schedule.

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<v Speaker 1>As you said, they haven't changed anything now they haven't

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<v Speaker 1>had two because they haven't had any live sports games.

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<v Speaker 1>But my guests would be there's just the unintended consequences

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<v Speaker 1>of moving in a week or a month. And oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, all these college students who are not

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<v Speaker 1>going back after Thanksgiving break. You know, one that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be more viewers on TV, but two that's the

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<v Speaker 1>later in the year appears by most people's estimation and

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<v Speaker 1>be the more dangerous time of the year. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think we're gonna miss a single NFL football game. I

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<v Speaker 1>think by hook or by crook, they'll do it. But

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<v Speaker 1>if they get the chance to say, okay, you can

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<v Speaker 1>start now, or if you start in mid October, we

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<v Speaker 1>can loosen things up and get fans to come in,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they'll push it to mid October. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to play without fans. I mean, other sports are

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<v Speaker 1>much more okay out but but but they don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to play thinks it's like it's like the people who

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<v Speaker 1>are fighting having the athletes back on campus or in facilities,

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<v Speaker 1>like there's we're not getting it. First of all, anybody

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<v Speaker 1>like we're gonna we're not getting a vaccine. So for

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<v Speaker 1>for this football season, for this fall, we're not having vaccine.

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<v Speaker 1>If that's part of your argument that in order for

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<v Speaker 1>these things to happen, we have to have a vaccine,

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<v Speaker 1>then we need to seriously consider canceling everything because we're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to have vaccine. Okay, that's the first thing.

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<v Speaker 1>The second thing is that I believe getting these athletes

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<v Speaker 1>back into their facilities getting the one antibodies test, because

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<v Speaker 1>I would guess that a good portion of people have

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<v Speaker 1>had it. But but two, um, somebody's gonna get sick,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're gonna get treated and they're gonna get better.

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<v Speaker 1>Whereas if you're the longer you wait and then you wait,

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, all right, well let's push it back, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we get to you know, late August into September,

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<v Speaker 1>and somebody gets back. Now you run the risk of

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<v Speaker 1>canceling everything because you haven't treated it before. So this

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<v Speaker 1>this gives you. And also remember, and this is probably

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<v Speaker 1>the most important point that I feel like I've I've made.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not if you're staying at home, you're not in

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<v Speaker 1>a bubble anymore. Right, Everybody social distancing isn't over, but

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like it's essentially over. And if it's not

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<v Speaker 1>over yet, it's going to be in the coming weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you think the keeping an athlete, professional collegiate,

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<v Speaker 1>high school at home protects them, it doesn't. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>like we've opened back up the world to all of

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<v Speaker 1>the germs that are all going to be spread again

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<v Speaker 1>and let's let's see what happens. But you're actually in

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<v Speaker 1>a much more contained environment if you go to your

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<v Speaker 1>facility or if you go to your college campus than

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<v Speaker 1>you are if you just stay at home. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's a difference between quarantine being over and social

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<v Speaker 1>distancing being over. You know, I think as we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about we talked at this beginning of the show this weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>I think was the big Okay, quarantine is over all right,

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<v Speaker 1>either the whole we're staying home all the time. People

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<v Speaker 1>are past that, even the most staunchest of we need

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<v Speaker 1>to stay home, need to stay home. I think we

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<v Speaker 1>move past that. But still social distancing is going to

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<v Speaker 1>continue to be a thing. We're still going to be

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<v Speaker 1>wearing masks, They're still gonna be businesses that are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say you got to wear a mask coming in, and

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<v Speaker 1>that might be what it winds up being where we

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<v Speaker 1>can get back to everything being normal, but you got

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<v Speaker 1>to wear a mask. And restaurants may be different and

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<v Speaker 1>how they wind up doing it. Maybe it's you wind

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<v Speaker 1>up sitting outside. Now we're getting into the summer months

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<v Speaker 1>and being outside is okay. So maybe you know, dining

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<v Speaker 1>on the patio is what they do, and they limit

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<v Speaker 1>being able to dine inside when when it comes to it,

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<v Speaker 1>your server may wear a mask. You may not have

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<v Speaker 1>to wear a mask, but we're still going to have

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<v Speaker 1>the social distancing part of it. And if it becomes

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<v Speaker 1>too difficult of even just a just an optic of boy,

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<v Speaker 1>fifty thousand fans, you know, next to each other without

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<v Speaker 1>any kind of masks or any kind of of of

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<v Speaker 1>of or using anything that's gonna potentially stop the spread

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<v Speaker 1>of this, that's going to be difficult to get by,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to say, okay, well this is really tough

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<v Speaker 1>because look, this weekend you're gonna get stuff coming off

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<v Speaker 1>of church services and of parties. Uh and and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>beach goers where you might see a coronavirus spike. And

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<v Speaker 1>then suddenly it's all right, maybe we have to do

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<v Speaker 1>something else. But I think that social distancing is still

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<v Speaker 1>going to be there in the fall. And if it

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<v Speaker 1>turns out to be, hey, we can sell every fifth

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<v Speaker 1>seat or every fourth seat in football, Ohio State's got

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<v Speaker 1>a plan saying, hey, we're looking at uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>potentially having anywhere from twenty to fifty thousand fans of

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<v Speaker 1>the game if we have to sit you know, every

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<v Speaker 1>other seat or every third seat. Now that I could see,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think that that's going to be something that

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna need a little bit longer to get to

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<v Speaker 1>to that point. Then That's why I think when we

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<v Speaker 1>get to September and maybe we're not there, but if

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<v Speaker 1>we get back into school and kids go back to

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<v Speaker 1>school and we figure that out, then by the time

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<v Speaker 1>mid October hits, then I think we can have it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the big question is going to be who's

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<v Speaker 1>going to have the money to buy these tickets? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Like right now, we're all kind of operating in this

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<v Speaker 1>fantasy world because our government's pumping money, you know, into

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<v Speaker 1>the economy because because of how dramatic the spike has

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<v Speaker 1>been an unemployment but either you know, at some point

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, all right, we're good, you know. Um, but

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<v Speaker 1>but even if you're living on on the government's supplementation

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<v Speaker 1>of your income, you're not going to spend a couple

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred bucks a thousand bucks to go to an

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<v Speaker 1>NFL game, are you? Like I we just tell me

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<v Speaker 1>where that money, Tell me where that money is coming from. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>at some point you got to say to yourself, like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're in the NFL, like man, even when we

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<v Speaker 1>open it back up, who's gonna be able to afford tickets?

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<v Speaker 1>And it was a tough sell to begin with, because

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<v Speaker 1>when you're at an NFL game, you couldn't watch the

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<v Speaker 1>other games. You can't you know, follow your fantasy team,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't do red zone. So I there's there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to it. But I would say, I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>of the belief that it was we were told it

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<v Speaker 1>was about flattening the curve. Will we see another spike?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we'll find out in two weeks because so

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<v Speaker 1>many people have decided they're completely done with the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And my guess is by timber, NFL teams find a

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<v Speaker 1>way to get people in stadiums. Twitter At, how about

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<v Speaker 1>few minutes, but joining us now on the hotline. Normally

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<v Speaker 1>he'd be joining us to talk about where the Major

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<v Speaker 1>whatever big Memorial Day quadruple header we have. Instead, it's

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<v Speaker 1>about the return. You can follow on Twitter at Scott

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<v Speaker 1>Miller BBL. That's at Scott Miller BBL Scott Miller, friend

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<v Speaker 1>Turner Sports, Scott, how's it going? Man? Good? Jason and

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<v Speaker 1>Doug Happy Memorial Day. So as we sit right now,

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<v Speaker 1>instead of talking about the games, we're talking about getting

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<v Speaker 1>ready to come back. Where are you as far as

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<v Speaker 1>when you know people you've been talking to, when actually

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<v Speaker 1>we could first of all get a decision on when

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<v Speaker 1>you know, baseball, what they're going to agree to to

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<v Speaker 1>come back, and then what would happen right after that?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I think the decision as usual won't come

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<v Speaker 1>as quick as people would like. You know, Tomorrow, the

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<v Speaker 1>next week to ten days is going to be big.

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<v Speaker 1>Tomorrow the owners are going to present the players with

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<v Speaker 1>a financial proposal. You know, they met two weeks ago

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<v Speaker 1>to begin the latest negotiations. You guys have heard all

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<v Speaker 1>about the health proposals. The player and owners have been

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<v Speaker 1>kicking around, you know about you know, what the protocols

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be, you know, if and when the

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<v Speaker 1>game comes back. They've moved through quite a few of those.

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<v Speaker 1>But now comes the money part. And I think in

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<v Speaker 1>the end the two sides will get together because I

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<v Speaker 1>just think too much is at stake that both sides

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<v Speaker 1>are already losing so much money this year. Obviously, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you play, you get at least some of that back.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus there's pressure you know, nationally, I mean, everybody wants

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<v Speaker 1>sports to come back. Everybody wants a game coming back.

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<v Speaker 1>That said, you know, negotiations are negotiations, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>the financial part begins this week. And you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think if you're talking spring Training Part two beginning, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>June tenth to fifteenth, somewhere in that range, which is

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<v Speaker 1>what they would like, then you're going to have to

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<v Speaker 1>have an agreement hammered out sometime around June first or

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<v Speaker 1>the first few days in June. If you go much

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<v Speaker 1>beyond that, then the Spring Training Part two has to

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<v Speaker 1>be pushed back. Then the proposed opening day of the

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<v Speaker 1>first week of July has to get pushed back, and

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<v Speaker 1>the whole trickle down effect begins. All right, So, Scott,

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<v Speaker 1>how long do you think it takes these teams will

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<v Speaker 1>legitimately be ready? You know, dougative ready is probably a

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<v Speaker 1>relative question. I mean, you know, pitchers obviously there are

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<v Speaker 1>the big thing. I say three weeks preferably, they'll have

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<v Speaker 1>three weeks of spring training Part two. But even at that,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure, you know, I don't know, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to see starting pitchers ready to go seven or

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<v Speaker 1>eight innings out of the gate. So I think even

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<v Speaker 1>with in a perfect scenario, right now, they come back

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<v Speaker 1>to spring training, like I say, mid June, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>squeeze in maybe three weeks at the most of spring training,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the hitters will be fairly read. But even

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<v Speaker 1>after that, you know, you'll see tag team pitching staffs,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you know, assuming the game goes back

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<v Speaker 1>on the field early July, in other words, you'll have

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<v Speaker 1>starting pitchers, you know, maybe go four or five innings,

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<v Speaker 1>six at the most, and then it'll be a reliever

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<v Speaker 1>and a reliever and a reliever. And that's why rosters

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<v Speaker 1>were going to expand to twenty six this year, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six players per team. Probably when all of a sudden done,

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<v Speaker 1>once they negotiate, you're gonna see rosters of thirty thirty one,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty two, and most of those extra players will be pitchers.

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<v Speaker 1>And it'll be because of what I just said, Because

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<v Speaker 1>after three weeks, starting pitchers won't quite be back up

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<v Speaker 1>to speed, and you'll have some extra pitchers on each staff. Scott,

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<v Speaker 1>how much of the comeback is being pushed due to

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<v Speaker 1>pressure of seeing sports return? Because the one thing I'm

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<v Speaker 1>seeing from from baseball players it's different from the other sports,

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<v Speaker 1>is the big question about health and making sure everything

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<v Speaker 1>is okay for us, for people who come to the games,

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<v Speaker 1>for the workers. Uh. I've seen that more from baseball

0:23:08.760 --> 0:23:12.320
<v Speaker 1>players and anybody else. Is the pressure of to push

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<v Speaker 1>baseball coming back. Maybe what's what's uh me keeping this

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<v Speaker 1>as a halt right now and as the players try

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out how much they're ready to come back

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<v Speaker 1>at this point, I think, Jason, I think everybody wants

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<v Speaker 1>to play. I think the reason you've seen the health

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<v Speaker 1>component talked about more from baseball players than in other sports.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's two things. One, uh, you know, baseball

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<v Speaker 1>could be the first sport to come back, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>legitimate health concerns. Uh, you know, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>diminish that, but but so so that that's that's part

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<v Speaker 1>of that. But I think the second reason you've seen

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<v Speaker 1>some talk about health from players is, um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when was it about three weeks ago that that it

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<v Speaker 1>leaked that owners want to the players to go do

0:24:01.280 --> 0:24:03.720
<v Speaker 1>a revenue sharing split. The players thought it would be

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<v Speaker 1>salary cap and they didn't want to do that, and

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<v Speaker 1>things got a little bit ugly. Well, I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>why the owners when they came back for negotiations, the

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<v Speaker 1>owners lad with the health component, not with the financial component.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think basically like any negotiations, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>really touchy because obviously this pandemic has been horrible for

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<v Speaker 1>the country, horrible for everybody. But if you if you

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<v Speaker 1>just look at the negotiations on their own, a lot

0:24:34.920 --> 0:24:37.879
<v Speaker 1>of it always comes down to spin right, Like the

0:24:38.800 --> 0:24:42.640
<v Speaker 1>players want to take their righteous ground. The owners want

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<v Speaker 1>to take their righteous ground. And the players aren't going

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<v Speaker 1>to win if they say you need to give us

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<v Speaker 1>our money, We're not taking that big of a hit.

0:24:52.560 --> 0:24:57.080
<v Speaker 1>But they can get more public opinion on their side

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<v Speaker 1>if they talk to health issues. So again I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not diminishing the health issue at all. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying that the players aren't concerned with the health issue.

0:25:06.080 --> 0:25:08.480
<v Speaker 1>It is a legitimate and they do want to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that you know, everything's safe and sound when they

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<v Speaker 1>come back. But that second part is also why I

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<v Speaker 1>think you've heard about the health from the players because

0:25:18.160 --> 0:25:21.679
<v Speaker 1>they ain't gonna win any any public opinion battles if

0:25:21.720 --> 0:25:27.399
<v Speaker 1>they just talk about money, Scott, the money. It's not

0:25:27.440 --> 0:25:29.280
<v Speaker 1>just the money, it's to all the preston, right, Tyke.

0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Tony Clark has to get this thing done right because

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<v Speaker 1>he's under an immense amount of pressure for the next CBA,

0:25:36.520 --> 0:25:38.760
<v Speaker 1>which is, you know, less than like a year off.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's there's a bunch of different It's not

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<v Speaker 1>tell me if I'm wrong here. It's not just hey,

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<v Speaker 1>can we get you back on the field playing and

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<v Speaker 1>what is the appropriate going rate for players to be

0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:52.359
<v Speaker 1>playing in empty stadiums? It's what sort of prestons does

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<v Speaker 1>this set for the new collective Barney agreement? And the

0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:57.720
<v Speaker 1>players are already operating under this thought that we got

0:25:57.720 --> 0:25:59.600
<v Speaker 1>destroyed last time. We've got to get back some ground

0:25:59.680 --> 0:26:03.320
<v Speaker 1>this time. Yeah, and that factors into it as well, Doug,

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<v Speaker 1>There's no question. And because in a normal world, which

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<v Speaker 1>my goodness, it's hard to remember that now, isn't it.

0:26:10.600 --> 0:26:15.080
<v Speaker 1>But in a normal world with no pandemic, the basic

0:26:15.119 --> 0:26:20.200
<v Speaker 1>agreement between the players and owners, the current one expires

0:26:20.240 --> 0:26:23.800
<v Speaker 1>after next season, the twenty twenty one season, so on

0:26:23.920 --> 0:26:28.399
<v Speaker 1>a normal calendar. This would be about the time the

0:26:28.520 --> 0:26:32.399
<v Speaker 1>players and owners would be just starting to meet, because

0:26:32.400 --> 0:26:34.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, they start meeting more than a year out

0:26:35.000 --> 0:26:37.360
<v Speaker 1>when it comes time to negotiate the next basic agreement,

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<v Speaker 1>So they would just be starting to have some meetings

0:26:40.760 --> 0:26:44.480
<v Speaker 1>that wouldn't exactly be pressurized yet because they'd be staking

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<v Speaker 1>out their territory and they'll be saying a year, you know,

0:26:47.600 --> 0:26:50.359
<v Speaker 1>we've got a year and a half or whatever it

0:26:50.440 --> 0:26:53.320
<v Speaker 1>is now until we got to figure this out. All

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, you're right, the pandemic has blown everything up,

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<v Speaker 1>So now the players and owners all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 1>happen to go shiates something rapidly, and with the basic

0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:09.200
<v Speaker 1>agreement that's a year and a half or less away expiring,

0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:12.840
<v Speaker 1>so it's almost like they gotta not you know, barely

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<v Speaker 1>have time to do this before they have to get

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<v Speaker 1>onto the next one. And yeah, I mean if if

0:27:17.760 --> 0:27:19.960
<v Speaker 1>the players give too much in this one, then they

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<v Speaker 1>feel like that'll put them behind as they start negotiating

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<v Speaker 1>for the next basic agreement, which is going to come

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much the negotiations will start right about the time

0:27:32.359 --> 0:27:35.400
<v Speaker 1>they finish getting this year is done. And so yeah,

0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:39.879
<v Speaker 1>it's a very slippery slope for both sides. But you're right,

0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:43.480
<v Speaker 1>especially the players because they feel like they got played

0:27:43.560 --> 0:27:47.439
<v Speaker 1>last time. On Twitter at Scott Miller BBL. That is

0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:51.159
<v Speaker 1>at Scott Miller BBL, national baseball columnist for Bleacher for

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<v Speaker 1>Turner Sports, Scott, appreciate your time with us this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk to you soon. Have a great day. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope you and all the listeners stay safe and healthy

0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:01.840
<v Speaker 1>and enjoy some burgers or something out there for Memorial Day.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks a bunch, Scott appreciated, buddy. Uh So, Doug, let

0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:08.320
<v Speaker 1>me ask you that because obviously listen, as Scott said, uh,

0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:10.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, big Memorial Day, big day in baseball. You

0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:13.840
<v Speaker 1>know how much is uh is your son missing baseball

0:28:13.920 --> 0:28:17.439
<v Speaker 1>right now? Um? A lot? I mean, like you know,

0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:22.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, right now, he'd be missing flag, football, baseball,

0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:25.520
<v Speaker 1>and basketball. So yeah, he's he's not He's not not

0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:28.560
<v Speaker 1>too keen on I'm not seeing his buddies in playing sports. Yeah,

0:28:28.560 --> 0:28:31.399
<v Speaker 1>it's because my daughter misses softball. But at the same time,

0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:34.199
<v Speaker 1>it's like, really is it. It's really hard for me

0:28:34.240 --> 0:28:36.080
<v Speaker 1>to even get her out of the house to do something,

0:28:36.400 --> 0:28:38.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, Like I feel like the kids what they

0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:39.800
<v Speaker 1>do they go, they go through that, they go through

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:43.160
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of depression, and you gotta find different ways.

0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:46.240
<v Speaker 1>He had a couple of meltdowns over like, yeah, hey,

0:28:47.360 --> 0:28:50.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm Lackey motivation. You know, normally I'm super

0:28:50.160 --> 0:28:53.040
<v Speaker 1>He's a super motivated guy. I mean, look, what's help

0:28:53.040 --> 0:28:55.280
<v Speaker 1>with us is we've started back some basketball workouts. We

0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:58.440
<v Speaker 1>started back having I have one kid over to to shoot.

0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Uh he has like s we have a shooting machine

0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:03.680
<v Speaker 1>that is shoots with and you know, playing baseball. If

0:29:03.680 --> 0:29:06.040
<v Speaker 1>he plays does something with a buddy, it's way better.

0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:08.280
<v Speaker 1>But I get it. Yeah, they do. Even the most

0:29:08.320 --> 0:29:10.960
<v Speaker 1>active kids, suddenly you take away that interaction with other

0:29:11.000 --> 0:29:14.000
<v Speaker 1>people and they become inactive, and sometimes they become a

0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:17.200
<v Speaker 1>little depressed. Twitter out, how about a fresca Doug at

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Gottlieb Show, Jason Smith, Doug gotlie Been for Dan and

0:29:19.520 --> 0:29:21.560
<v Speaker 1>the Dan Nets to day. We'll have more baseball coming

0:29:21.640 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 1>up later on in the show. But something we talked

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:26.239
<v Speaker 1>about a few minutes ago, I want to deliver on

0:29:26.280 --> 0:29:28.480
<v Speaker 1>that tease. As we say in the radio business, as

0:29:29.080 --> 0:29:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Reggie Bush did an interview with Playboy, and you know,

0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:33.960
<v Speaker 1>which is where all our big interview should come from

0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:38.280
<v Speaker 1>Reggie Bush an interview with Playboy that is just hitting

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:42.360
<v Speaker 1>the internet now, and he talked about how concerned he

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:46.480
<v Speaker 1>was about the NCAA's recent support of a player endorsement plan,

0:29:46.840 --> 0:29:49.680
<v Speaker 1>saying that paying college athletes with their names and likenesses

0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:54.120
<v Speaker 1>is quote going to destroy some people. Quote guidance is

0:29:54.160 --> 0:29:56.360
<v Speaker 1>the one thing that young athletes coming through the college

0:29:56.400 --> 0:29:59.080
<v Speaker 1>system miss on so much. I missed on it. They're

0:29:59.120 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 1>about to start paying in college athletes. This is something

0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:04.239
<v Speaker 1>that has never been experienced before, and it's going to

0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:07.800
<v Speaker 1>destroy some people if their foundation is not in the

0:30:07.880 --> 0:30:11.600
<v Speaker 1>right place. Now, I get what he's saying in a

0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:13.960
<v Speaker 1>vacuum that Listen, hey, you give money to kids. If

0:30:14.000 --> 0:30:16.280
<v Speaker 1>they're not ready to handle it, then it's it's difficult.

0:30:16.320 --> 0:30:18.880
<v Speaker 1>But really, you know, anytimes you give kids money, whether

0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:21.040
<v Speaker 1>they're nineteen, twenty or twenty one, if they're not ready

0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:23.520
<v Speaker 1>to handle it, they're not ready to handle it. Um.

0:30:23.760 --> 0:30:25.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, what do you think about what Reggie Bush

0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:27.840
<v Speaker 1>has said so far? Doug, I think there's a lot

0:30:27.880 --> 0:30:30.960
<v Speaker 1>of wisdom in it. I think, you know, I just

0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:34.120
<v Speaker 1>do it's it's I mean, look, there there's the first

0:30:34.160 --> 0:30:38.440
<v Speaker 1>the simple question of Uh, you know, are they going

0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:40.080
<v Speaker 1>to pay the taxes on it? Because they're going to

0:30:40.080 --> 0:30:44.040
<v Speaker 1>be taxed on money they receive, and so are they

0:30:44.160 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 1>pay taxes on it? What happens to their scholarships? So

0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:49.160
<v Speaker 1>they is there a chance that those are tax or

0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 1>other benefits they have our tax That's the first thing.

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:53.560
<v Speaker 1>But not just the idea of taxing, but the responsibility

0:30:53.560 --> 0:30:55.680
<v Speaker 1>of doing it and the punishment if you don't pay

0:30:55.680 --> 0:30:58.800
<v Speaker 1>your taxes. But yeah, just this idea you I mean,

0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:03.040
<v Speaker 1>I think Mike Tyson said it best years ago. He said, like,

0:31:03.040 --> 0:31:04.920
<v Speaker 1>you want to see a tragedy, Take a kid from nowhere,

0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:06.920
<v Speaker 1>give him all the power in the world, all the

0:31:06.920 --> 0:31:10.560
<v Speaker 1>money in the world, and no guidance, and there you

0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 1>go like that, it's like a Greek tragedy. And I

0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 1>think that's a little bit of what Reggie's talking about.

0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:18.560
<v Speaker 1>He's like, we all think of it, like, Okay, you'll

0:31:18.560 --> 0:31:21.880
<v Speaker 1>get however much money from a local car dealership to

0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:25.200
<v Speaker 1>make an appearance and forget about the pandemic, which may

0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:27.360
<v Speaker 1>eliminate some of this for a year or two anyway,

0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 1>but let's just say you get it one or do

0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:32.479
<v Speaker 1>you have the responsibility of will you pay the taxes

0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:34.280
<v Speaker 1>on it that you need to pay on whatever money

0:31:34.280 --> 0:31:36.800
<v Speaker 1>you get. Two you're gonna are you just gonna go

0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 1>spend it? Right, We're gonna go. Like when I was

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:40.600
<v Speaker 1>in my twenties, if I got a thousand bucks, like

0:31:40.960 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 1>probably have gotten rims and tires, you know, to get

0:31:45.560 --> 0:31:49.400
<v Speaker 1>rims and tires and and some gear. So you know,

0:31:49.520 --> 0:31:52.800
<v Speaker 1>like you just it ends up. And then there's the

0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:56.440
<v Speaker 1>are you sending money to people who who need it

0:31:56.560 --> 0:31:58.760
<v Speaker 1>or just people who want it or make them make

0:31:58.800 --> 0:32:01.360
<v Speaker 1>themselves feel entitled to adding it? You know, that gives

0:32:01.400 --> 0:32:03.240
<v Speaker 1>a lot of levels to it. But I think Reggie

0:32:03.280 --> 0:32:06.240
<v Speaker 1>Bush is somebody who has been through this and understands

0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:08.840
<v Speaker 1>what it's like to be a young man in a

0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 1>place like southern California and being offered the world like

0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:14.600
<v Speaker 1>you're just not That's part of the whole thing with college.

0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to explain to people, you're just not ready

0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:18.640
<v Speaker 1>for all that. It's why you go to college. You

0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:21.360
<v Speaker 1>need to learn all these other kind of little things.

0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:23.600
<v Speaker 1>And some of they are teaching more now in college

0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 1>in terms of being a professional. Some of it is

0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:28.200
<v Speaker 1>it's just social emotional growth that you have to go

0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:31.080
<v Speaker 1>through and our desire to pay people as soon as

0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:35.960
<v Speaker 1>as possible, it doesn't traditionally work out better because of it.

0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:37.880
<v Speaker 1>We're not better because we got a check because we

0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:40.080
<v Speaker 1>got money in our like that. That's never been. It's

0:32:40.120 --> 0:32:42.480
<v Speaker 1>never been what anything's about in terms of growing. So

0:32:42.720 --> 0:32:44.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'm kind of with Reggie on this one,

0:32:44.880 --> 0:32:46.600
<v Speaker 1>especially because he's lived it and he knows it better

0:32:46.640 --> 0:32:49.280
<v Speaker 1>than than maybe anybody else. See I look at it

0:32:49.280 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 1>this right, I disagree a bit in that if let's say,

0:32:51.800 --> 0:32:55.440
<v Speaker 1>let's take Reggie Bush for example, or any big college

0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:57.880
<v Speaker 1>basketball start, the list of people that all be getting

0:32:57.880 --> 0:33:00.479
<v Speaker 1>paid is really tiny. Like, if you're talking about players,

0:33:00.480 --> 0:33:03.320
<v Speaker 1>you're paying them for their likenesses and their jerseys. Well,

0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 1>how many how many guys are having that jersey made

0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:07.920
<v Speaker 1>that people are actually buying? You know, you're talking about

0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:10.080
<v Speaker 1>maybe one or two stars per team, so it's not

0:33:10.200 --> 0:33:12.680
<v Speaker 1>quite the the you know, the blanket. Okay, all these

0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 1>guys are getting paid. If you're at that point where

0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:17.680
<v Speaker 1>your jersey is getting made, well, then you are a

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:21.040
<v Speaker 1>year away from being you know, paid professionally or leaving

0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:23.479
<v Speaker 1>school to go to the NFL draft or to go

0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:26.720
<v Speaker 1>to the go to the NBA, and at that point

0:33:27.320 --> 0:33:29.720
<v Speaker 1>you should be having people in helping you. You're gonna

0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:32.000
<v Speaker 1>have somebody in a year anyway, and anybody that's getting

0:33:32.000 --> 0:33:34.280
<v Speaker 1>paid under the table now or for whatever, you're still

0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:38.120
<v Speaker 1>having people that are advising you. And so it's just

0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:40.960
<v Speaker 1>about making better decisions with who you surround yourself with.

0:33:41.000 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know that a year is a difference,

0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:46.040
<v Speaker 1>because you're gonna be making these decisions not by yourself,

0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:49.200
<v Speaker 1>but usually with your family, with your parents or your guardians, whoever,

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:51.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, whoever is you know you've grown up and

0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:54.000
<v Speaker 1>you're living with So I feel like, Okay, I get

0:33:54.000 --> 0:33:57.560
<v Speaker 1>it in theory, but if you're making these decisions anyway

0:33:57.680 --> 0:34:00.280
<v Speaker 1>and you're getting money somehow, what you have to do

0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:02.880
<v Speaker 1>with it, it's it's the same thing you'd be doing

0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:04.800
<v Speaker 1>in a year, and you're already doing it to an

0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:07.640
<v Speaker 1>extent in college anyway. So I'm trying to see where

0:34:07.680 --> 0:34:10.120
<v Speaker 1>where this is going to be something where they put

0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:11.759
<v Speaker 1>a system in place that's really going to help and

0:34:11.880 --> 0:34:14.960
<v Speaker 1>change things. I think it'll be more kids than you think.

0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:17.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they'll be paying true truthfully for their

0:34:17.760 --> 0:34:21.600
<v Speaker 1>name and likeness. It'll be more you know, like, hey,

0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:23.319
<v Speaker 1>we had the football team. They're all going to be

0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:27.440
<v Speaker 1>at such and such restaurant, you know, on a Monday

0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:30.000
<v Speaker 1>after the game, and then everybody gets everybody's going to get,

0:34:30.040 --> 0:34:32.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, a couple hundred bucks for an appearance. That's

0:34:32.680 --> 0:34:35.359
<v Speaker 1>generally the way I would guess it will work more

0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:39.680
<v Speaker 1>often because you can't. The problem with like the car

0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:42.760
<v Speaker 1>dealerships is you're not going to be able to do

0:34:43.520 --> 0:34:45.600
<v Speaker 1>anything that you know, if it's a sponsor of a

0:34:45.600 --> 0:34:49.200
<v Speaker 1>school that get that. If it's somebody that doesn't sponsor

0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:50.520
<v Speaker 1>the school, you're not gonna be able to do it.

0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:52.279
<v Speaker 1>And if they sponsor the school, why are they going

0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:54.640
<v Speaker 1>to give money. It's it's a little commit confusing in

0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:56.719
<v Speaker 1>terms of who will actually be able to pay. So

0:34:56.800 --> 0:34:59.680
<v Speaker 1>my guests would be it'll be small time kind of

0:34:59.760 --> 0:35:03.120
<v Speaker 1>nicke and dime stuff where you'll be able to, you know,

0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:05.840
<v Speaker 1>have a group of kids after a big game, before

0:35:05.840 --> 0:35:08.960
<v Speaker 1>a big game, recruiting weekend or whatever. You have them

0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:11.440
<v Speaker 1>stop by and they get paid. They signed some autographs

0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:15.719
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, even though they don't really have value. It's

0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:18.759
<v Speaker 1>essentially pay for play, and it's just kind of under

0:35:18.800 --> 0:35:21.640
<v Speaker 1>the under the guise of name image and likeness. See,

0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:23.120
<v Speaker 1>I like the fact that you would have bought rims

0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:24.839
<v Speaker 1>because I think I think I would have bought gear.

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:27.200
<v Speaker 1>I'd have bought jerseys. I'd have bought you know, jerseys,

0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:28.720
<v Speaker 1>like you know, they would have like one hundred hundred

0:35:28.719 --> 0:35:30.120
<v Speaker 1>and fifty bucks. I'd have bought a couple of really

0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:32.400
<v Speaker 1>cool ones. But I like that you went right to Rims.

0:35:32.560 --> 0:35:33.920
<v Speaker 1>I'd be Rims. And because I don't know that you

0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:36.160
<v Speaker 1>could have done rims and tires for a thousand bucks.

0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:38.360
<v Speaker 1>You might have just been able to do rims. Oh no,

0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:40.840
<v Speaker 1>in in two thousand, you absolutely could have do a

0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:43.839
<v Speaker 1>Rims entire shirt a thousand bucks. Not necessarily good ones,

0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:45.080
<v Speaker 1>but you could do rooms and tire. I mean you're

0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:46.959
<v Speaker 1>talking about college rooms and tires. You had no question

0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:48.800
<v Speaker 1>college rooms been tires. You could have bought out of

0:35:48.800 --> 0:35:50.319
<v Speaker 1>the back of somebody. You know, you pull up to

0:35:50.320 --> 0:35:52.319
<v Speaker 1>a stop light and somebody's like, hey man, you want

0:35:52.320 --> 0:35:55.399
<v Speaker 1>a stereo. Oh I don't know why, like pull over

0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:58.080
<v Speaker 1>and then they like pop out of stereo like okay,

0:35:58.320 --> 0:36:01.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean you know that was a speak. I'm on

0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:03.319
<v Speaker 1>a big bass. I bought some speakers like that. I'm

0:36:03.360 --> 0:36:05.560
<v Speaker 1>not gonna lie did you really put people pulled up?

0:36:05.560 --> 0:36:07.200
<v Speaker 1>And today you guys, I got some speakers at the back.

0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:11.360
<v Speaker 1>You want something? Yes? Really? How were how are they good?

0:36:11.640 --> 0:36:13.320
<v Speaker 1>Work that fine? For my dorm room when I was

0:36:13.360 --> 0:36:15.880
<v Speaker 1>in college? It was great? Okay, I mean they were

0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:18.399
<v Speaker 1>good issues. They were good. It wasn't just like hey,

0:36:18.440 --> 0:36:20.320
<v Speaker 1>it sounded good in the and then I got it

0:36:20.400 --> 0:36:22.160
<v Speaker 1>home and then you know there's a bunch of rats

0:36:22.200 --> 0:36:26.680
<v Speaker 1>eating cables inside it. No. Wow, you're like the only

0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:29.600
<v Speaker 1>person I know that has bought stereo off a truck

0:36:29.600 --> 0:36:33.440
<v Speaker 1>and it's worked out well for I'm definitely an outlier

0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:36.560
<v Speaker 1>in that case. Hey, I just sold rims to Doug Gotli.

0:36:36.560 --> 0:36:39.320
<v Speaker 1>I just sold a stereo to Doug Gottlieb gave me

0:36:39.360 --> 0:36:41.600
<v Speaker 1>his autograph and everything. It would have been before selfies,

0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:44.960
<v Speaker 1>before selfies. And I'm not sure the guy, I think

0:36:45.000 --> 0:36:46.840
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know who I was. Whatever. We just started

0:36:46.840 --> 0:36:49.520
<v Speaker 1>like talking and negotiating whenever, and I was like, all right,

0:36:49.520 --> 0:36:51.359
<v Speaker 1>hook them out in me here, and I was like, yeah,

0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:53.200
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't work. I mean I think I paid like

0:36:53.239 --> 0:36:55.560
<v Speaker 1>something crazy though, like two hundred bucks or something for

0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:58.440
<v Speaker 1>it and ended up working. I used them my whole guy.

0:36:58.440 --> 0:37:00.560
<v Speaker 1>I used him in post college and stuff. I'm still

0:37:00.640 --> 0:37:03.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm not only at him. I had him for a

0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:06.160
<v Speaker 1>long time. Your son's good. You still got him down.

0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:07.719
<v Speaker 1>I put him in my room. Now, you still got

0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:10.040
<v Speaker 1>hi about using Now you have Bluetooth everything, and you

0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:13.280
<v Speaker 1>just carry around your own speaker. It's so lame compared

0:37:13.320 --> 0:37:16.000
<v Speaker 1>to trying to figure out the chords and twisting the

0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:19.319
<v Speaker 1>little copper part and all that stuff. Twitter at How

0:37:19.360 --> 0:37:22.160
<v Speaker 1>about a fresca Doug A Gottlieb Show Jason Smith. Doug

0:37:22.200 --> 0:37:24.440
<v Speaker 1>gotlied in for Dan and the Danettes today here on

0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:27.319
<v Speaker 1>Fox Sports Radio. Coming up next, we got the Lands

0:37:27.400 --> 0:37:30.359
<v Speaker 1>Dance to get too is now with Last Dance done,

0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:33.600
<v Speaker 1>Lance Armstrong's documentary making some headlines, we'll get into that

0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:36.759
<v Speaker 1>straight ahead. This is Fox Sports Radio. Be sure to

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio, The Dan Patrick Show, Jason Smith and Doug

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<v Speaker 1>Gottlieb in for Dan and the Danettes Today. It was

0:37:50.200 --> 0:37:53.160
<v Speaker 1>just last Sunday we said goodbye to the Last Dance,

0:37:54.040 --> 0:37:58.440
<v Speaker 1>the Michael Jordan documentary biography, and then you knew we're

0:37:58.440 --> 0:38:01.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna get the onslaught of copycats or what's the next

0:38:01.680 --> 0:38:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Last Dance? And now Lance Armstrong's thirty for thirty debuting

0:38:05.640 --> 0:38:07.920
<v Speaker 1>last night, in which he had a lot of f

0:38:08.080 --> 0:38:11.120
<v Speaker 1>bombs that he threw at the camera and telling some stories. Uh,

0:38:11.160 --> 0:38:13.399
<v Speaker 1>you know the thing that gets me on this, Doug

0:38:13.480 --> 0:38:15.520
<v Speaker 1>is that now everybody's gonna be looking for the next

0:38:15.560 --> 0:38:18.319
<v Speaker 1>last dance and what's next? What what's the story we

0:38:18.360 --> 0:38:20.799
<v Speaker 1>can tell, what's something we can have and and I

0:38:20.840 --> 0:38:23.800
<v Speaker 1>think we kind of have to temper expectations that nothing's

0:38:23.800 --> 0:38:26.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna have that kind of impact. I don't see there

0:38:26.080 --> 0:38:28.399
<v Speaker 1>being any do that that is coming down the pipe

0:38:28.440 --> 0:38:31.279
<v Speaker 1>anytime soon that's gonna have any kind of impact like

0:38:31.400 --> 0:38:35.480
<v Speaker 1>last Dance did um, I would agree with you. I

0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:39.040
<v Speaker 1>think there's there there's there's a couple of levels to it.

0:38:39.080 --> 0:38:41.759
<v Speaker 1>One it is it's during basketball season when there was

0:38:41.800 --> 0:38:44.200
<v Speaker 1>no basketball playoff season, where there's no basketball too was

0:38:44.239 --> 0:38:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Michael Jordan and you know, uh, it was about championships.

0:38:49.520 --> 0:38:51.680
<v Speaker 1>And then you know, I thought ESPN did a great

0:38:51.760 --> 0:38:53.400
<v Speaker 1>job promoting it, and then I thought it was it

0:38:53.800 --> 0:38:56.080
<v Speaker 1>was it was good um, and it was it was

0:38:56.120 --> 0:38:59.319
<v Speaker 1>an era of the sport that people loved and loved

0:38:59.320 --> 0:39:02.480
<v Speaker 1>to look back with with with glistening eyes over I

0:39:02.760 --> 0:39:05.760
<v Speaker 1>don't like the Lance Armstrong documentary is very very different

0:39:06.160 --> 0:39:08.480
<v Speaker 1>in a different tone. But no, no no, it will not

0:39:08.560 --> 0:39:10.640
<v Speaker 1>have the same impact or be discussed in nearly the

0:39:10.680 --> 0:39:13.040
<v Speaker 1>same amount, although I can talk about it for days

0:39:13.760 --> 0:39:17.279
<v Speaker 1>that the Last Dance, well, you know what, I think

0:39:17.400 --> 0:39:19.319
<v Speaker 1>people miss a little bit as you say, yes, it

0:39:19.440 --> 0:39:21.560
<v Speaker 1>was a time in the night, you know, Michael Jordan,

0:39:21.600 --> 0:39:23.480
<v Speaker 1>we want to look back at that. How much of

0:39:23.520 --> 0:39:26.120
<v Speaker 1>a desire is to look back at Lance Armstrong's career,

0:39:26.160 --> 0:39:27.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, I really want to see and go through

0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:31.080
<v Speaker 1>everything that went on the past few years with his

0:39:31.120 --> 0:39:33.440
<v Speaker 1>doping scandal and winning Tour de France. Now it's it's

0:39:33.440 --> 0:39:36.320
<v Speaker 1>a fascinating story, but it just doesn't have that same

0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:39.400
<v Speaker 1>overall while I gotta go see this, And part of

0:39:39.400 --> 0:39:41.960
<v Speaker 1>that is that, you know, we went back and looked

0:39:41.960 --> 0:39:45.360
<v Speaker 1>at Last Dance stuff. You know, Jordan was the biggest

0:39:45.600 --> 0:39:48.440
<v Speaker 1>icon in the world, and he came about in the

0:39:48.440 --> 0:39:51.680
<v Speaker 1>age before social media. So while we still knew a

0:39:51.719 --> 0:39:54.160
<v Speaker 1>lot about Michael Jordan's life in his career, and certainly

0:39:54.160 --> 0:39:56.320
<v Speaker 1>some of the stories that we heard we knew and

0:39:56.440 --> 0:39:58.400
<v Speaker 1>we liked hearing him again, there was a lot of

0:39:58.480 --> 0:40:01.200
<v Speaker 1>new information there just becau because you know, it wasn't

0:40:01.239 --> 0:40:03.759
<v Speaker 1>that time. But like all these these people that are

0:40:03.800 --> 0:40:06.840
<v Speaker 1>being trotted out there for DOCUMENTI so Lance Armstrong age

0:40:06.840 --> 0:40:09.800
<v Speaker 1>of social media. You know, we knew everything about Lance Armstrong,

0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Tiger Woods, we know everything about Tiger Woods. Well, what

0:40:12.680 --> 0:40:14.040
<v Speaker 1>are we going to find out that we don't know?

0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:16.040
<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady? What are we going to find out we

0:40:16.040 --> 0:40:19.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know about? You know, all nine of his Super Bowls? Wait?

0:40:19.120 --> 0:40:21.480
<v Speaker 1>I really I don't know that we're going to find

0:40:21.600 --> 0:40:24.239
<v Speaker 1>anything new that's gonna be Wow. This is unbelievable stuff

0:40:24.280 --> 0:40:26.160
<v Speaker 1>that may be a headline for a few hours after

0:40:26.200 --> 0:40:28.279
<v Speaker 1>the show airs, and then afterwards we're gonna be on

0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:31.560
<v Speaker 1>to something else. Well, I'd really disagree with you on that.

0:40:31.640 --> 0:40:33.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's so much about the Tiger stuff we

0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:36.239
<v Speaker 1>don't know. There's a ton about Tom Brady and the

0:40:36.239 --> 0:40:39.520
<v Speaker 1>Patriots we don't know, and Lance Armstrong stuff just in

0:40:39.560 --> 0:40:42.680
<v Speaker 1>one episode. You know, there's so much more we we

0:40:42.760 --> 0:40:47.280
<v Speaker 1>didn't know. Um, yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna totally disagree

0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:49.560
<v Speaker 1>because the social media stuff is all BS as part

0:40:49.600 --> 0:40:51.480
<v Speaker 1>of the deal, and you start to see this is

0:40:51.719 --> 0:40:55.520
<v Speaker 1>this is really how it works. What but the the

0:40:55.560 --> 0:40:58.600
<v Speaker 1>age of instant information is is more what I mean

0:40:58.680 --> 0:41:01.399
<v Speaker 1>that that we know everything about these guys. Look, what's

0:41:01.560 --> 0:41:04.839
<v Speaker 1>what's Brady gonna say? What's Brady really gonna say during

0:41:04.960 --> 0:41:08.080
<v Speaker 1>his uh, during his big look back at the Super Bowls?

0:41:08.080 --> 0:41:09.840
<v Speaker 1>That's gonna be something we go, Oh my god, I

0:41:09.880 --> 0:41:12.399
<v Speaker 1>can't believe he's not gonna throw Bill Belichick under the ball. Well,

0:41:12.560 --> 0:41:14.959
<v Speaker 1>well Brady, Okay, so Brady doesn't say, but that doesn't

0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:16.920
<v Speaker 1>mean somebody else that they interview some other story that

0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:20.120
<v Speaker 1>did it. You know, the the the deflate gate. I mean,

0:41:20.440 --> 0:41:23.200
<v Speaker 1>what's the real story behind that? Or the spy gate,

0:41:23.239 --> 0:41:25.040
<v Speaker 1>what's the real story behind that? Like, there's lots of

0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:27.400
<v Speaker 1>stuff we have no idea about. We don't know about

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:31.080
<v Speaker 1>conversations and like did you know that Dennis Robin flew

0:41:31.080 --> 0:41:33.840
<v Speaker 1>off to Vegas for forty eight hours? Or that that

0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Jordan had to go into his Chicago apartment and get

0:41:36.000 --> 0:41:38.520
<v Speaker 1>him you know, he Carmen Letcher's hide him behind, you know,

0:41:38.600 --> 0:41:41.279
<v Speaker 1>hiding from from Jordan. Like you know, there's all kinds

0:41:41.280 --> 0:41:43.680
<v Speaker 1>of little quirky stories that make it. And then you

0:41:43.719 --> 0:41:46.920
<v Speaker 1>get to to Lance's stuff and there's so like I

0:41:46.960 --> 0:41:50.279
<v Speaker 1>always suspected that he knew what he was putting into

0:41:50.360 --> 0:41:52.839
<v Speaker 1>his body, but to the level to which they were

0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:55.319
<v Speaker 1>all doing it and they all knew, uh, and they're

0:41:55.320 --> 0:41:58.600
<v Speaker 1>all admitting it is I wasn't ready for. I I

0:41:58.640 --> 0:42:00.839
<v Speaker 1>guess I was ready for but I'm even surprised by

0:42:00.960 --> 0:42:03.480
<v Speaker 1>So I'm going to disagree with you that there's not

0:42:04.520 --> 0:42:06.640
<v Speaker 1>we'll never have another Jordan. I mean Jordan, who was

0:42:06.719 --> 0:42:11.880
<v Speaker 1>such an iconic figure, brand guy, plus the six championships.

0:42:11.920 --> 0:42:14.719
<v Speaker 1>On the other hand, that doesn't mean that there won't

0:42:14.719 --> 0:42:18.680
<v Speaker 1>be some really, really good and interesting documentaries that we

0:42:18.840 --> 0:42:21.800
<v Speaker 1>won't watch as much, but we will definitely watch now

0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:24.759
<v Speaker 1>because because of the Last Dance made it cool to

0:42:24.760 --> 0:42:27.160
<v Speaker 1>watch documentaries again. Yeall that that I think is going

0:42:27.200 --> 0:42:29.359
<v Speaker 1>to wind up being what the Last Dances legacy is,

0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:31.960
<v Speaker 1>is that it's gonna spawn this new interest in whatever

0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:35.520
<v Speaker 1>the sports stock genre turns into. Is what we're gonna

0:42:35.520 --> 0:42:37.680
<v Speaker 1>get because of Last Dance. That's gonna be its lasting

0:42:37.680 --> 0:42:41.680
<v Speaker 1>impact after this Twitter, Right, how about a Fresca Doug

0:42:41.719 --> 0:42:44.799
<v Speaker 1>at Gottlieb show Jason Smith, Doug Gottlieb in for Dan

0:42:44.880 --> 0:42:46.759
<v Speaker 1>and the Dan that's phone to rate seven seven ninety

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<v Speaker 1>nine on Fox eight seven seven nine six three six nine.

0:42:50.800 --> 0:42:52.399
<v Speaker 1>We'll have more on that coming up. We've got Rick

0:42:52.440 --> 0:42:54.919
<v Speaker 1>Bucker in about a half hour or now from now,

0:42:54.960 --> 0:42:57.000
<v Speaker 1>but coming up next we look back at the big

0:42:57.040 --> 0:43:01.040
<v Speaker 1>and wild golf weekend involving Bread and Peyton Manning and

0:43:01.080 --> 0:43:02.360
<v Speaker 1>Tiger and Phil Fox