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Speaker 1: Smith and Doug Gottlieb in for Dan and the Dan X.
Speaker 1: On today, Happy Memorial Day, and uh, you know today, Doug,
Speaker 1: it's always it's always fun to be around my dad.
Speaker 1: It's fun to be around my dad every day, well
Speaker 1: not most some days it's not. But Memorial Day. You know,
Speaker 1: my dad served in the military. He was in Vietnam.
Speaker 1: He was in the Navy, and he has the best
Speaker 1: Memorial Day joke I've ever heard that never fails to
Speaker 1: just capture everybody's attention and he gives you the punchline
Speaker 1: and it's just, oh my god, you can't kin tell
Speaker 1: you real fast. Yeah, it's okay. So, like I said,
Speaker 1: my dad was in Vietnam. He's on his ship. The
Speaker 1: USS to Louth was his ship. And one of the
Speaker 1: best things in his life, He'll tell you, was when
Speaker 1: he moved out here and we went to visit his
Speaker 1: ship because it was docked in San Diego and he
Speaker 1: walked on he's telling all these stories. I'm going, oh
Speaker 1: my god, it was. It was the greatest thing in
Speaker 1: his life. And this is the first time I heard
Speaker 1: the joke, and he'll tell it in mixed company and
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like a joke, and and and he
Speaker 1: kind of gets people. He goes, do I ever tell
Speaker 1: you about the time I saved the lives of all
Speaker 1: five hundred and forty three people on my ship? And
Speaker 1: you know, when I go no, and when someone else
Speaker 1: hears it, you don't know, Okay, wow, Well what's this
Speaker 1: going to be like? Is this a joke? Is this
Speaker 1: something else? What's gonna be I don't know. He goes yeah,
Speaker 1: he goes yeah, and he gets you know, then he
Speaker 1: stops for a second, and he was waiting for someone
Speaker 1: to ask him, you know what you do? It's in
Speaker 1: very whether it was being something else, like what you do?
Speaker 1: He says, I threw the cook overboard. And then it
Speaker 1: takes people a second and then they go oh. And
Speaker 1: he never fails, never I've seen him tell it, I
Speaker 1: know fifty times. Never fails to get to get a
Speaker 1: big response, it's going, I like it threw the cook overboard. Yes,
Speaker 1: yea to anyone who has served or people who continue
Speaker 1: to serve, like from both me and Jason, everybody Fox
Speaker 1: Sports Radio, that's a pretty amazing and selfless thing that
Speaker 1: that you do, and it's it's fast day. We talked
Speaker 1: about being a dad, you know, like I'm my son
Speaker 1: is doing revolutionary war history and you know, we're talking
Speaker 1: about these things, and we start talking about the service,
Speaker 1: and he said, you know, do you have to go
Speaker 1: to the service. It's like, no, it's a volunteer army.
Speaker 1: It's like people volunteer for that. It's like, yeah, well
Speaker 1: they get paid for it, because how much. I like,
Speaker 1: I don't know not. I mean, it's it's a good job.
Speaker 1: There's really good benefits, but you know, there's things you
Speaker 1: have to surrender and and give up. He's like, man,
Speaker 1: those people are awesome. I go, yes, they are awesome.
Speaker 1: So today is the day in which you are You
Speaker 1: should be awesome every day, right, It's like Mother's day. Right.
Speaker 1: If if Mother's Day is the only day you tell
Speaker 1: your mom you're awesome, you're probably not doing a great job.
Speaker 1: If today is the only day you're telling a military
Speaker 1: a service member you're awesome, then you're not doing a
Speaker 1: good job. But there's there's nothing wrong with telling people
Speaker 1: you're they're awesome today. And did your son ask you dad?
Speaker 1: So was Alexander Hamilton really that important the Revolutionary War,
Speaker 1: because that's what I was. Hamilton's really that important because
Speaker 1: I mean, you know the play and everything. Was he
Speaker 1: that big? It was never president, wasn't it? Go No, No,
Speaker 1: he wasn't, but he was important. But it's great, you
Speaker 1: know you're talking about doing Revolutionary War. Kids are growing
Speaker 1: up now with a completely different look at American history, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: Washington was the president, but man Hamilton, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: all those great songs, Hamilton really was the guy behind everything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my kids don't know Hamilton he was. He's doing He
Speaker 1: has a John Adams presentation, which is funny because a
Speaker 1: good friend of mine, John Adams, used to be ahead
Speaker 1: of the NCAA referees, right, and says, I'm immediately thinking
Speaker 1: of him, Like we could have John Adams and we
Speaker 1: could do his history, and just go, I thought you
Speaker 1: said John Adams. I didn't know John Adams was the
Speaker 1: first one termer. He's only one term president. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: every you said that, he's doing a thing on John Adams.
Speaker 1: Anybody's seen Hamilton just went, oh, man, John Adams, what
Speaker 1: a waste he was. Because that's now everybody thinks of
Speaker 1: John Adams. He was you know, he was short, and
Speaker 1: he you know, one term and he was a bad president.
Speaker 1: When before nobody really had any thoughts about John Adams. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was Washington and then it was Adams, and then
Speaker 1: it was Jefferson and then it was but you just
Speaker 1: kind of just blow by John Adams. And now he's
Speaker 1: got a much different history look back at him. Uh
Speaker 1: So this weekend we had to have big things from
Speaker 1: Troy Vincent on the NFL and they were returning a second.
Speaker 1: But did you see Eli Manning joined Twitter this weekend
Speaker 1: and and got roasted by Tom Brady. Yes, I don't
Speaker 1: know that that Twitter is gonna be for Eli. I
Speaker 1: feel like he's seeing some of his tweets. He has
Speaker 1: the Jimmy Chitwood tweet and and you know, talking about
Speaker 1: trying and coming on social media. I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know that he has the the kind of
Speaker 1: personality for all the what he's going to get in
Speaker 1: this timeline from fans when he says something, he's going, boy,
Speaker 1: look at what these people are telling me to go
Speaker 1: do to myself. Well, I don't know about I don't
Speaker 1: know about Twitter. Yeah, I'm kind of nervous for Eli. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, like, look the you're assuming that he's gonna
Speaker 1: read his mentions and that he's gonna be on it
Speaker 1: all the time. And I think a lot of these
Speaker 1: guys with Twitter sometimes they'll, you know, during an event,
Speaker 1: they'll get on it, but they probably have a publicist
Speaker 1: who handles it as well. I would agree with you,
Speaker 1: like it's a weird time to get on it, but
Speaker 1: he got on it right right when his brother's playing
Speaker 1: on TV playing golf. I really like the Manning family.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously the way in which they're they're kind
Speaker 1: of portrayed is immensely likable. But god, they're they're just
Speaker 1: they're funny. They're really like funny in a natural way,
Speaker 1: and they see the aw shucks thing kind of does
Speaker 1: does work for him. I don't know if it's real
Speaker 1: or not, but I my little time I spent with Peyton,
Speaker 1: it feels real. Um. But I like them, and I
Speaker 1: like Eli on Twitter, especially if he can If if
Speaker 1: somebody somebody sends him a picture of Eli face, I
Speaker 1: can't wait to hear what his response is. How much
Speaker 1: how much do you look at your ats when you're
Speaker 1: on Twitter? You look at them a lot once in
Speaker 1: a while every day. How much you look at him? Uh,
Speaker 1: very rarely. Now, I used to live look, I used
Speaker 1: to kind of live in that that realm. You go
Speaker 1: back maybe five six years ago. I was probably too
Speaker 1: much in my mentions and you know, trying to respond
Speaker 1: to what people were saying now and very very little
Speaker 1: you Once in a while, I will sometimes it depends.
Speaker 1: I'll go through and see if anybody that I follow
Speaker 1: or or with a with a blue check mark that's
Speaker 1: in the in the industry with us, We'll say something like,
Speaker 1: oh okay, you know, they'll come back and say things,
Speaker 1: and but you know, it really kind of depends. Uh,
Speaker 1: it just kind of depends on the mood I'm in.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, only go through and see what's being said
Speaker 1: if I see And but a lot of times I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I kind of know how things are
Speaker 1: gonna go here, So I'm just gonna say what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say on social media and then I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: back off for a while. And then uh, and maybe
Speaker 1: it checked the ads another time. It just it just
Speaker 1: kind of depends on my mood. And then sometimes I'll
Speaker 1: go and say, oh, this is really cool, and I'll
Speaker 1: say on my ads for a while and I'll answer
Speaker 1: questions and then sometimes I'll just go, Yep, nope, I'm good.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go do something else. I'm just gonna just
Speaker 1: wipe my hands of it and walk away. And I
Speaker 1: think Eli is gonna wind up having to do that
Speaker 1: a little bit, just just because I can't. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm just picturing him trying to get through and people
Speaker 1: are taking what people are gonna say about him in
Speaker 1: his lifetime record and all this stuff, and you didn't
Speaker 1: end up, you didn't go visit Plexico, burst and jail.
Speaker 1: You know that's gonna come up, and it's gonna be whoa, whoa,
Speaker 1: whoa whoa. Like I think he's gonna be surprised by
Speaker 1: the whole thing. Yes, Like you're just sometimes you're like, wait,
Speaker 1: what happened here? Like you like, I have no idea
Speaker 1: what I stepped into. It is a it's a you know,
Speaker 1: It's like it's like sometimes listening to the gym Rome show,
Speaker 1: where you if you haven't listened in years, you're like,
Speaker 1: I don't even know what they're talking about, right, They're
Speaker 1: making references the thing, like I don't know what they're
Speaker 1: like I gotta get out of this saying I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're talking about, Like if you
Speaker 1: haven't been on social media and like you're not aware,
Speaker 1: like you know, if you don't know of who was
Speaker 1: it was it Nelly who had the bad audio with
Speaker 1: um he was doing a live like wrap off with
Speaker 1: somebody going back to last week, like right again, like
Speaker 1: if you don't know that exists, you're sitting there going
Speaker 1: like why are people talking about Nelly? Why? I don't
Speaker 1: understand this? Moving on, I do think it can be
Speaker 1: a little bit you can feel like many of us feel.
Speaker 1: We watched the Grammys, right, We're like, I don't know
Speaker 1: any of these albums. I don't the end of these artists.
Speaker 1: I can't watch this thing. That's why I think sometimes
Speaker 1: it feels like when you're on Twitter, what is this?
Speaker 1: What is this roney that keeps trending? Why is Real
Speaker 1: Housewives of New York? Why is that on there? Why?
Speaker 1: Why is analyst trending? I don't understand? Like it's He's
Speaker 1: like it's like it's a whole new world that's gonna
Speaker 1: be opened up for him. Yep, So Troy Vincent, this weekend.
Speaker 1: Pretty interesting thing. H Vincent is the NFL's head of
Speaker 1: football operation, has been head of football operations going on
Speaker 1: seven years now, and he gave a pretty big statement
Speaker 1: this weekend by saying that the NFL is planning for
Speaker 1: full stadiums this year quote until the medical community tells
Speaker 1: us otherwise. And when I see this from Troy Vincent, Doug,
Speaker 1: I think, Okay, I know what's going on. The NFL
Speaker 1: is not going to play in September. They're not. I
Speaker 1: mean when they have their plan that they threw out there,
Speaker 1: the kind of idly that Roger Goodell said, well, we
Speaker 1: have a plan for the middle of October that would
Speaker 1: take the NFL season through till the end of February,
Speaker 1: played the Super Bowl the end of February. But that
Speaker 1: that that's our plan. Be the more time that goes on,
Speaker 1: I think that's the plan a all right, Because first
Speaker 1: of all, you have the NFL is not paused at
Speaker 1: all during the coronavirus pandemic. Right, They didn't pause for
Speaker 1: free agency, that didn't pause for the draft, that didn't
Speaker 1: pause to release the schedule. They have been a full boar.
Speaker 1: We're going ahead with our season. This is how we're
Speaker 1: doing it, and so if you're not stopping at all,
Speaker 1: but you have this plan for October, and now you
Speaker 1: hear Troy Vincent saying we're planning on full stadiums. I
Speaker 1: don't know that you're gonna get the okay to do
Speaker 1: that in the beginning of September and when you're playing
Speaker 1: exhibition games in the month of August. But by the
Speaker 1: end of the year, which is when doctor Anthony Fauci
Speaker 1: had said, I could see some people coming back to
Speaker 1: football games towards the end of the year. I think
Speaker 1: that's the NFL's a plan. I don't think they have
Speaker 1: any they're operating under any illusion they're going to actually
Speaker 1: play the beginning of September, we're gonna have the Thursday
Speaker 1: night kickoff, and then we're gonna go. I think we're
Speaker 1: gonna go the middle of October. Week five is going
Speaker 1: to be the beginning. We're gonna get Tom Brady on
Speaker 1: that Thursday night game because that's the Thursday night Week
Speaker 1: five game, and they're gonna flip the first four weeks
Speaker 1: the end of the calendar. If if I had all
Speaker 1: my money had to push it on one of those dates,
Speaker 1: I would say NFL's mid October is really their plan.
Speaker 1: A I'm gonna disagree with you. I think they're gonna
Speaker 1: have I think they'll be fine. I just I just
Speaker 1: do I I'm please, don't think that I'm a denier
Speaker 1: of what COVID has been and the number of deaths
Speaker 1: right Like, It's like you'll get people saying, well, you
Speaker 1: know the flu, Like, look, if you actually do some research,
Speaker 1: the flu numbers aren't real numbers. It's a it's a
Speaker 1: it's a calculation based upon spikes in deaths during a
Speaker 1: certain time of the year when when flu is present.
Speaker 1: That's what it is. These are real numbers in a
Speaker 1: short period of time. The one hundred thousand people you're
Speaker 1: talking about, So I have full respect for that. And
Speaker 1: I and the flattening the curve was is a is
Speaker 1: of utmost importance. And I don't know whether we flattened enough,
Speaker 1: we should have weighed longer or whatever. I just I
Speaker 1: don't see us going back into quarantine. I don't see
Speaker 1: it going I could be wrong. I reserve the right
Speaker 1: to be wrong. I don't see us going back to
Speaker 1: that point. And I don't see the NFL not having
Speaker 1: games or pushing back their game, pushing back their schedule.
Speaker 1: As you said, they haven't changed anything now they haven't
Speaker 1: had two because they haven't had any live sports games.
Speaker 1: But my guests would be there's just the unintended consequences
Speaker 1: of moving in a week or a month. And oh yeah,
Speaker 1: by the way, all these college students who are not
Speaker 1: going back after Thanksgiving break. You know, one that's going
Speaker 1: to be more viewers on TV, but two that's the
Speaker 1: later in the year appears by most people's estimation and
Speaker 1: be the more dangerous time of the year. I don't
Speaker 1: think we're gonna miss a single NFL football game. I
Speaker 1: think by hook or by crook, they'll do it. But
Speaker 1: if they get the chance to say, okay, you can
Speaker 1: start now, or if you start in mid October, we
Speaker 1: can loosen things up and get fans to come in,
Speaker 1: I think they'll push it to mid October. They don't
Speaker 1: want to play without fans. I mean, other sports are
Speaker 1: much more okay out but but but they don't want
Speaker 1: to play thinks it's like it's like the people who
Speaker 1: are fighting having the athletes back on campus or in facilities,
Speaker 1: like there's we're not getting it. First of all, anybody
Speaker 1: like we're gonna we're not getting a vaccine. So for
Speaker 1: for this football season, for this fall, we're not having vaccine.
Speaker 1: If that's part of your argument that in order for
Speaker 1: these things to happen, we have to have a vaccine,
Speaker 1: then we need to seriously consider canceling everything because we're
Speaker 1: not going to have vaccine. Okay, that's the first thing.
Speaker 1: The second thing is that I believe getting these athletes
Speaker 1: back into their facilities getting the one antibodies test, because
Speaker 1: I would guess that a good portion of people have
Speaker 1: had it. But but two, um, somebody's gonna get sick,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna get treated and they're gonna get better.
Speaker 1: Whereas if you're the longer you wait and then you wait,
Speaker 1: you're like, all right, well let's push it back, and
Speaker 1: then we get to you know, late August into September,
Speaker 1: and somebody gets back. Now you run the risk of
Speaker 1: canceling everything because you haven't treated it before. So this
Speaker 1: this gives you. And also remember, and this is probably
Speaker 1: the most important point that I feel like I've I've made.
Speaker 1: You're not if you're staying at home, you're not in
Speaker 1: a bubble anymore. Right, Everybody social distancing isn't over, but
Speaker 1: it feels like it's essentially over. And if it's not
Speaker 1: over yet, it's going to be in the coming weeks.
Speaker 1: So if you think the keeping an athlete, professional collegiate,
Speaker 1: high school at home protects them, it doesn't. It doesn't
Speaker 1: like we've opened back up the world to all of
Speaker 1: the germs that are all going to be spread again
Speaker 1: and let's let's see what happens. But you're actually in
Speaker 1: a much more contained environment if you go to your
Speaker 1: facility or if you go to your college campus than
Speaker 1: you are if you just stay at home. Well, I
Speaker 1: think there's a difference between quarantine being over and social
Speaker 1: distancing being over. You know, I think as we talked
Speaker 1: about we talked at this beginning of the show this weekend,
Speaker 1: I think was the big Okay, quarantine is over all right,
Speaker 1: either the whole we're staying home all the time. People
Speaker 1: are past that, even the most staunchest of we need
Speaker 1: to stay home, need to stay home. I think we
Speaker 1: move past that. But still social distancing is going to
Speaker 1: continue to be a thing. We're still going to be
Speaker 1: wearing masks, They're still gonna be businesses that are gonna
Speaker 1: say you got to wear a mask coming in, and
Speaker 1: that might be what it winds up being where we
Speaker 1: can get back to everything being normal, but you got
Speaker 1: to wear a mask. And restaurants may be different and
Speaker 1: how they wind up doing it. Maybe it's you wind
Speaker 1: up sitting outside. Now we're getting into the summer months
Speaker 1: and being outside is okay. So maybe you know, dining
Speaker 1: on the patio is what they do, and they limit
Speaker 1: being able to dine inside when when it comes to it,
Speaker 1: your server may wear a mask. You may not have
Speaker 1: to wear a mask, but we're still going to have
Speaker 1: the social distancing part of it. And if it becomes
Speaker 1: too difficult of even just a just an optic of boy,
Speaker 1: fifty thousand fans, you know, next to each other without
Speaker 1: any kind of masks or any kind of of of
Speaker 1: of or using anything that's gonna potentially stop the spread
Speaker 1: of this, that's going to be difficult to get by,
Speaker 1: you know, to say, okay, well this is really tough
Speaker 1: because look, this weekend you're gonna get stuff coming off
Speaker 1: of church services and of parties. Uh and and you know,
Speaker 1: beach goers where you might see a coronavirus spike. And
Speaker 1: then suddenly it's all right, maybe we have to do
Speaker 1: something else. But I think that social distancing is still
Speaker 1: going to be there in the fall. And if it
Speaker 1: turns out to be, hey, we can sell every fifth
Speaker 1: seat or every fourth seat in football, Ohio State's got
Speaker 1: a plan saying, hey, we're looking at uh, you know,
Speaker 1: potentially having anywhere from twenty to fifty thousand fans of
Speaker 1: the game if we have to sit you know, every
Speaker 1: other seat or every third seat. Now that I could see,
Speaker 1: but I think that that's going to be something that
Speaker 1: we're gonna need a little bit longer to get to
Speaker 1: to that point. Then That's why I think when we
Speaker 1: get to September and maybe we're not there, but if
Speaker 1: we get back into school and kids go back to
Speaker 1: school and we figure that out, then by the time
Speaker 1: mid October hits, then I think we can have it.
Speaker 1: I think the big question is going to be who's
Speaker 1: going to have the money to buy these tickets? You know,
Speaker 1: Like right now, we're all kind of operating in this
Speaker 1: fantasy world because our government's pumping money, you know, into
Speaker 1: the economy because because of how dramatic the spike has
Speaker 1: been an unemployment but either you know, at some point
Speaker 1: they're like, all right, we're good, you know. Um, but
Speaker 1: but even if you're living on on the government's supplementation
Speaker 1: of your income, you're not going to spend a couple
Speaker 1: one hundred bucks a thousand bucks to go to an
Speaker 1: NFL game, are you? Like I we just tell me
Speaker 1: where that money, Tell me where that money is coming from. Like,
Speaker 1: at some point you got to say to yourself, like,
Speaker 1: if you're in the NFL, like man, even when we
Speaker 1: open it back up, who's gonna be able to afford tickets?
Speaker 1: And it was a tough sell to begin with, because
Speaker 1: when you're at an NFL game, you couldn't watch the
Speaker 1: other games. You can't you know, follow your fantasy team,
Speaker 1: you can't do red zone. So I there's there's there's
Speaker 1: a lot to it. But I would say, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: of the belief that it was we were told it
Speaker 1: was about flattening the curve. Will we see another spike?
Speaker 1: I guess we'll find out in two weeks because so
Speaker 1: many people have decided they're completely done with the whole thing.
Speaker 1: And my guess is by timber, NFL teams find a
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Speaker 1: League Baseball season is at first two months of the season,
Speaker 1: whatever big Memorial Day quadruple header we have. Instead, it's
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Speaker 1: Turner Sports, Scott, how's it going? Man? Good? Jason and
Speaker 1: Doug Happy Memorial Day. So as we sit right now,
Speaker 1: instead of talking about the games, we're talking about getting
Speaker 1: ready to come back. Where are you as far as
Speaker 1: when you know people you've been talking to, when actually
Speaker 1: we could first of all get a decision on when
Speaker 1: you know, baseball, what they're going to agree to to
Speaker 1: come back, and then what would happen right after that?
Speaker 1: You know, I think the decision as usual won't come
Speaker 1: as quick as people would like. You know, Tomorrow, the
Speaker 1: next week to ten days is going to be big.
Speaker 1: Tomorrow the owners are going to present the players with
Speaker 1: a financial proposal. You know, they met two weeks ago
Speaker 1: to begin the latest negotiations. You guys have heard all
Speaker 1: about the health proposals. The player and owners have been
Speaker 1: kicking around, you know about you know, what the protocols
Speaker 1: are going to be, you know, if and when the
Speaker 1: game comes back. They've moved through quite a few of those.
Speaker 1: But now comes the money part. And I think in
Speaker 1: the end the two sides will get together because I
Speaker 1: just think too much is at stake that both sides
Speaker 1: are already losing so much money this year. Obviously, you know,
Speaker 1: if you play, you get at least some of that back.
Speaker 1: Plus there's pressure you know, nationally, I mean, everybody wants
Speaker 1: sports to come back. Everybody wants a game coming back.
Speaker 1: That said, you know, negotiations are negotiations, and you know
Speaker 1: the financial part begins this week. And you know, I
Speaker 1: think if you're talking spring Training Part two beginning, you know,
Speaker 1: June tenth to fifteenth, somewhere in that range, which is
Speaker 1: what they would like, then you're going to have to
Speaker 1: have an agreement hammered out sometime around June first or
Speaker 1: the first few days in June. If you go much
Speaker 1: beyond that, then the Spring Training Part two has to
Speaker 1: be pushed back. Then the proposed opening day of the
Speaker 1: first week of July has to get pushed back, and
Speaker 1: the whole trickle down effect begins. All right, So, Scott,
Speaker 1: how long do you think it takes these teams will
Speaker 1: legitimately be ready? You know, dougative ready is probably a
Speaker 1: relative question. I mean, you know, pitchers obviously there are
Speaker 1: the big thing. I say three weeks preferably, they'll have
Speaker 1: three weeks of spring training Part two. But even at that,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, you know, I don't know, you're not
Speaker 1: going to see starting pitchers ready to go seven or
Speaker 1: eight innings out of the gate. So I think even
Speaker 1: with in a perfect scenario, right now, they come back
Speaker 1: to spring training, like I say, mid June, you know,
Speaker 1: squeeze in maybe three weeks at the most of spring training,
Speaker 1: I think the hitters will be fairly read. But even
Speaker 1: after that, you know, you'll see tag team pitching staffs,
Speaker 1: you know, if you know, assuming the game goes back
Speaker 1: on the field early July, in other words, you'll have
Speaker 1: starting pitchers, you know, maybe go four or five innings,
Speaker 1: six at the most, and then it'll be a reliever
Speaker 1: and a reliever and a reliever. And that's why rosters
Speaker 1: were going to expand to twenty six this year, twenty
Speaker 1: six players per team. Probably when all of a sudden done,
Speaker 1: once they negotiate, you're gonna see rosters of thirty thirty one,
Speaker 1: thirty two, and most of those extra players will be pitchers.
Speaker 1: And it'll be because of what I just said, Because
Speaker 1: after three weeks, starting pitchers won't quite be back up
Speaker 1: to speed, and you'll have some extra pitchers on each staff. Scott,
Speaker 1: how much of the comeback is being pushed due to
Speaker 1: pressure of seeing sports return? Because the one thing I'm
Speaker 1: seeing from from baseball players it's different from the other sports,
Speaker 1: is the big question about health and making sure everything
Speaker 1: is okay for us, for people who come to the games,
Speaker 1: for the workers. Uh. I've seen that more from baseball
Speaker 1: players and anybody else. Is the pressure of to push
Speaker 1: baseball coming back. Maybe what's what's uh me keeping this
Speaker 1: as a halt right now and as the players try
Speaker 1: to figure out how much they're ready to come back
Speaker 1: at this point, I think, Jason, I think everybody wants
Speaker 1: to play. I think the reason you've seen the health
Speaker 1: component talked about more from baseball players than in other sports.
Speaker 1: I think it's two things. One, uh, you know, baseball
Speaker 1: could be the first sport to come back, so it's
Speaker 1: legitimate health concerns. Uh, you know, I don't want to
Speaker 1: diminish that, but but so so that that's that's part
Speaker 1: of that. But I think the second reason you've seen
Speaker 1: some talk about health from players is, um, you know,
Speaker 1: when was it about three weeks ago that that it
Speaker 1: leaked that owners want to the players to go do
Speaker 1: a revenue sharing split. The players thought it would be
Speaker 1: salary cap and they didn't want to do that, and
Speaker 1: things got a little bit ugly. Well, I think that's
Speaker 1: why the owners when they came back for negotiations, the
Speaker 1: owners lad with the health component, not with the financial component.
Speaker 1: And I think basically like any negotiations, and this is
Speaker 1: really touchy because obviously this pandemic has been horrible for
Speaker 1: the country, horrible for everybody. But if you if you
Speaker 1: just look at the negotiations on their own, a lot
Speaker 1: of it always comes down to spin right, Like the
Speaker 1: players want to take their righteous ground. The owners want
Speaker 1: to take their righteous ground. And the players aren't going
Speaker 1: to win if they say you need to give us
Speaker 1: our money, We're not taking that big of a hit.
Speaker 1: But they can get more public opinion on their side
Speaker 1: if they talk to health issues. So again I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not diminishing the health issue at all. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that the players aren't concerned with the health issue.
Speaker 1: It is a legitimate and they do want to make
Speaker 1: sure that you know, everything's safe and sound when they
Speaker 1: come back. But that second part is also why I
Speaker 1: think you've heard about the health from the players because
Speaker 1: they ain't gonna win any any public opinion battles if
Speaker 1: they just talk about money, Scott, the money. It's not
Speaker 1: just the money, it's to all the preston, right, Tyke.
Speaker 1: Tony Clark has to get this thing done right because
Speaker 1: he's under an immense amount of pressure for the next CBA,
Speaker 1: which is, you know, less than like a year off.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's a bunch of different It's not
Speaker 1: tell me if I'm wrong here. It's not just hey,
Speaker 1: can we get you back on the field playing and
Speaker 1: what is the appropriate going rate for players to be
Speaker 1: playing in empty stadiums? It's what sort of prestons does
Speaker 1: this set for the new collective Barney agreement? And the
Speaker 1: players are already operating under this thought that we got
Speaker 1: destroyed last time. We've got to get back some ground
Speaker 1: this time. Yeah, and that factors into it as well, Doug,
Speaker 1: There's no question. And because in a normal world, which
Speaker 1: my goodness, it's hard to remember that now, isn't it.
Speaker 1: But in a normal world with no pandemic, the basic
Speaker 1: agreement between the players and owners, the current one expires
Speaker 1: after next season, the twenty twenty one season, so on
Speaker 1: a normal calendar. This would be about the time the
Speaker 1: players and owners would be just starting to meet, because
Speaker 1: you know, they start meeting more than a year out
Speaker 1: when it comes time to negotiate the next basic agreement,
Speaker 1: So they would just be starting to have some meetings
Speaker 1: that wouldn't exactly be pressurized yet because they'd be staking
Speaker 1: out their territory and they'll be saying a year, you know,
Speaker 1: we've got a year and a half or whatever it
Speaker 1: is now until we got to figure this out. All
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're right, the pandemic has blown everything up,
Speaker 1: So now the players and owners all of a sudden
Speaker 1: happen to go shiates something rapidly, and with the basic
Speaker 1: agreement that's a year and a half or less away expiring,
Speaker 1: so it's almost like they gotta not you know, barely
Speaker 1: have time to do this before they have to get
Speaker 1: onto the next one. And yeah, I mean if if
Speaker 1: the players give too much in this one, then they
Speaker 1: feel like that'll put them behind as they start negotiating
Speaker 1: for the next basic agreement, which is going to come
Speaker 1: pretty much the negotiations will start right about the time
Speaker 1: they finish getting this year is done. And so yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a very slippery slope for both sides. But you're right,
Speaker 1: especially the players because they feel like they got played
Speaker 1: last time. On Twitter at Scott Miller BBL. That is
Speaker 1: at Scott Miller BBL, national baseball columnist for Bleacher for
Speaker 1: Turner Sports, Scott, appreciate your time with us this morning.
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you soon. Have a great day. I
Speaker 1: hope you and all the listeners stay safe and healthy
Speaker 1: and enjoy some burgers or something out there for Memorial Day.
Speaker 1: Thanks a bunch, Scott appreciated, buddy. Uh So, Doug, let
Speaker 1: me ask you that because obviously listen, as Scott said, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, big Memorial Day, big day in baseball. You
Speaker 1: know how much is uh is your son missing baseball
Speaker 1: right now? Um? A lot? I mean, like you know,
Speaker 1: you know, right now, he'd be missing flag, football, baseball,
Speaker 1: and basketball. So yeah, he's he's not He's not not
Speaker 1: too keen on I'm not seeing his buddies in playing sports. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's because my daughter misses softball. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: it's like, really is it. It's really hard for me
Speaker 1: to even get her out of the house to do something,
Speaker 1: you know, Like I feel like the kids what they
Speaker 1: do they go, they go through that, they go through
Speaker 1: a little bit of depression, and you gotta find different ways.
Speaker 1: He had a couple of meltdowns over like, yeah, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm Lackey motivation. You know, normally I'm super
Speaker 1: He's a super motivated guy. I mean, look, what's help
Speaker 1: with us is we've started back some basketball workouts. We
Speaker 1: started back having I have one kid over to to shoot.
Speaker 1: Uh he has like s we have a shooting machine
Speaker 1: that is shoots with and you know, playing baseball. If
Speaker 1: he plays does something with a buddy, it's way better.
Speaker 1: But I get it. Yeah, they do. Even the most
Speaker 1: active kids, suddenly you take away that interaction with other
Speaker 1: people and they become inactive, and sometimes they become a
Speaker 1: little depressed. Twitter out, how about a fresca Doug at
Speaker 1: Gottlieb Show, Jason Smith, Doug gotlie Been for Dan and
Speaker 1: the Dan Nets to day. We'll have more baseball coming
Speaker 1: up later on in the show. But something we talked
Speaker 1: about a few minutes ago, I want to deliver on
Speaker 1: that tease. As we say in the radio business, as
Speaker 1: Reggie Bush did an interview with Playboy, and you know,
Speaker 1: which is where all our big interview should come from
Speaker 1: Reggie Bush an interview with Playboy that is just hitting
Speaker 1: the internet now, and he talked about how concerned he
Speaker 1: was about the NCAA's recent support of a player endorsement plan,
Speaker 1: saying that paying college athletes with their names and likenesses
Speaker 1: is quote going to destroy some people. Quote guidance is
Speaker 1: the one thing that young athletes coming through the college
Speaker 1: system miss on so much. I missed on it. They're
Speaker 1: about to start paying in college athletes. This is something
Speaker 1: that has never been experienced before, and it's going to
Speaker 1: destroy some people if their foundation is not in the
Speaker 1: right place. Now, I get what he's saying in a
Speaker 1: vacuum that Listen, hey, you give money to kids. If
Speaker 1: they're not ready to handle it, then it's it's difficult.
Speaker 1: But really, you know, anytimes you give kids money, whether
Speaker 1: they're nineteen, twenty or twenty one, if they're not ready
Speaker 1: to handle it, they're not ready to handle it. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, what do you think about what Reggie Bush
Speaker 1: has said so far? Doug, I think there's a lot
Speaker 1: of wisdom in it. I think, you know, I just
Speaker 1: do it's it's I mean, look, there there's the first
Speaker 1: the simple question of Uh, you know, are they going
Speaker 1: to pay the taxes on it? Because they're going to
Speaker 1: be taxed on money they receive, and so are they
Speaker 1: pay taxes on it? What happens to their scholarships? So
Speaker 1: they is there a chance that those are tax or
Speaker 1: other benefits they have our tax That's the first thing.
Speaker 1: But not just the idea of taxing, but the responsibility
Speaker 1: of doing it and the punishment if you don't pay
Speaker 1: your taxes. But yeah, just this idea you I mean,
Speaker 1: I think Mike Tyson said it best years ago. He said, like,
Speaker 1: you want to see a tragedy, Take a kid from nowhere,
Speaker 1: give him all the power in the world, all the
Speaker 1: money in the world, and no guidance, and there you
Speaker 1: go like that, it's like a Greek tragedy. And I
Speaker 1: think that's a little bit of what Reggie's talking about.
Speaker 1: He's like, we all think of it, like, Okay, you'll
Speaker 1: get however much money from a local car dealership to
Speaker 1: make an appearance and forget about the pandemic, which may
Speaker 1: eliminate some of this for a year or two anyway,
Speaker 1: but let's just say you get it one or do
Speaker 1: you have the responsibility of will you pay the taxes
Speaker 1: on it that you need to pay on whatever money
Speaker 1: you get. Two you're gonna are you just gonna go
Speaker 1: spend it? Right, We're gonna go. Like when I was
Speaker 1: in my twenties, if I got a thousand bucks, like
Speaker 1: probably have gotten rims and tires, you know, to get
Speaker 1: rims and tires and and some gear. So you know,
Speaker 1: like you just it ends up. And then there's the
Speaker 1: are you sending money to people who who need it
Speaker 1: or just people who want it or make them make
Speaker 1: themselves feel entitled to adding it? You know, that gives
Speaker 1: a lot of levels to it. But I think Reggie
Speaker 1: Bush is somebody who has been through this and understands
Speaker 1: what it's like to be a young man in a
Speaker 1: place like southern California and being offered the world like
Speaker 1: you're just not That's part of the whole thing with college.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to explain to people, you're just not ready
Speaker 1: for all that. It's why you go to college. You
Speaker 1: need to learn all these other kind of little things.
Speaker 1: And some of they are teaching more now in college
Speaker 1: in terms of being a professional. Some of it is
Speaker 1: it's just social emotional growth that you have to go
Speaker 1: through and our desire to pay people as soon as
Speaker 1: as possible, it doesn't traditionally work out better because of it.
Speaker 1: We're not better because we got a check because we
Speaker 1: got money in our like that. That's never been. It's
Speaker 1: never been what anything's about in terms of growing. So
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm kind of with Reggie on this one,
Speaker 1: especially because he's lived it and he knows it better
Speaker 1: than than maybe anybody else. See I look at it
Speaker 1: this right, I disagree a bit in that if let's say,
Speaker 1: let's take Reggie Bush for example, or any big college
Speaker 1: basketball start, the list of people that all be getting
Speaker 1: paid is really tiny. Like, if you're talking about players,
Speaker 1: you're paying them for their likenesses and their jerseys. Well,
Speaker 1: how many how many guys are having that jersey made
Speaker 1: that people are actually buying? You know, you're talking about
Speaker 1: maybe one or two stars per team, so it's not
Speaker 1: quite the the you know, the blanket. Okay, all these
Speaker 1: guys are getting paid. If you're at that point where
Speaker 1: your jersey is getting made, well, then you are a
Speaker 1: year away from being you know, paid professionally or leaving
Speaker 1: school to go to the NFL draft or to go
Speaker 1: to the go to the NBA, and at that point
Speaker 1: you should be having people in helping you. You're gonna
Speaker 1: have somebody in a year anyway, and anybody that's getting
Speaker 1: paid under the table now or for whatever, you're still
Speaker 1: having people that are advising you. And so it's just
Speaker 1: about making better decisions with who you surround yourself with.
Speaker 1: And I don't know that a year is a difference,
Speaker 1: because you're gonna be making these decisions not by yourself,
Speaker 1: but usually with your family, with your parents or your guardians, whoever,
Speaker 1: you know, whoever is you know you've grown up and
Speaker 1: you're living with So I feel like, Okay, I get
Speaker 1: it in theory, but if you're making these decisions anyway
Speaker 1: and you're getting money somehow, what you have to do
Speaker 1: with it, it's it's the same thing you'd be doing
Speaker 1: in a year, and you're already doing it to an
Speaker 1: extent in college anyway. So I'm trying to see where
Speaker 1: where this is going to be something where they put
Speaker 1: a system in place that's really going to help and
Speaker 1: change things. I think it'll be more kids than you think.
Speaker 1: I don't think they'll be paying true truthfully for their
Speaker 1: name and likeness. It'll be more you know, like, hey,
Speaker 1: we had the football team. They're all going to be
Speaker 1: at such and such restaurant, you know, on a Monday
Speaker 1: after the game, and then everybody gets everybody's going to get,
Speaker 1: you know, a couple hundred bucks for an appearance. That's
Speaker 1: generally the way I would guess it will work more
Speaker 1: often because you can't. The problem with like the car
Speaker 1: dealerships is you're not going to be able to do
Speaker 1: anything that you know, if it's a sponsor of a
Speaker 1: school that get that. If it's somebody that doesn't sponsor
Speaker 1: the school, you're not gonna be able to do it.
Speaker 1: And if they sponsor the school, why are they going
Speaker 1: to give money. It's it's a little commit confusing in
Speaker 1: terms of who will actually be able to pay. So
Speaker 1: my guests would be it'll be small time kind of
Speaker 1: nicke and dime stuff where you'll be able to, you know,
Speaker 1: have a group of kids after a big game, before
Speaker 1: a big game, recruiting weekend or whatever. You have them
Speaker 1: stop by and they get paid. They signed some autographs
Speaker 1: or whatever, even though they don't really have value. It's
Speaker 1: essentially pay for play, and it's just kind of under
Speaker 1: the under the guise of name image and likeness. See,
Speaker 1: I like the fact that you would have bought rims
Speaker 1: because I think I think I would have bought gear.
Speaker 1: I'd have bought jerseys. I'd have bought you know, jerseys,
Speaker 1: like you know, they would have like one hundred hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty bucks. I'd have bought a couple of really
Speaker 1: cool ones. But I like that you went right to Rims.
Speaker 1: I'd be Rims. And because I don't know that you
Speaker 1: could have done rims and tires for a thousand bucks.
Speaker 1: You might have just been able to do rims. Oh no,
Speaker 1: in in two thousand, you absolutely could have do a
Speaker 1: Rims entire shirt a thousand bucks. Not necessarily good ones,
Speaker 1: but you could do rooms and tire. I mean you're
Speaker 1: talking about college rooms and tires. You had no question
Speaker 1: college rooms been tires. You could have bought out of
Speaker 1: the back of somebody. You know, you pull up to
Speaker 1: a stop light and somebody's like, hey man, you want
Speaker 1: a stereo. Oh I don't know why, like pull over
Speaker 1: and then they like pop out of stereo like okay,
Speaker 1: I mean you know that was a speak. I'm on
Speaker 1: a big bass. I bought some speakers like that. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie did you really put people pulled up?
Speaker 1: And today you guys, I got some speakers at the back.
Speaker 1: You want something? Yes? Really? How were how are they good?
Speaker 1: Work that fine? For my dorm room when I was
Speaker 1: in college? It was great? Okay, I mean they were
Speaker 1: good issues. They were good. It wasn't just like hey,
Speaker 1: it sounded good in the and then I got it
Speaker 1: home and then you know there's a bunch of rats
Speaker 1: eating cables inside it. No. Wow, you're like the only
Speaker 1: person I know that has bought stereo off a truck
Speaker 1: and it's worked out well for I'm definitely an outlier
Speaker 1: in that case. Hey, I just sold rims to Doug Gotli.
Speaker 1: I just sold a stereo to Doug Gottlieb gave me
Speaker 1: his autograph and everything. It would have been before selfies,
Speaker 1: before selfies. And I'm not sure the guy, I think
Speaker 1: I didn't know who I was. Whatever. We just started
Speaker 1: like talking and negotiating whenever, and I was like, all right,
Speaker 1: hook them out in me here, and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it doesn't work. I mean I think I paid like
Speaker 1: something crazy though, like two hundred bucks or something for
Speaker 1: it and ended up working. I used them my whole guy.
Speaker 1: I used him in post college and stuff. I'm still
Speaker 1: I'm not only at him. I had him for a
Speaker 1: long time. Your son's good. You still got him down.
Speaker 1: I put him in my room. Now, you still got
Speaker 1: hi about using Now you have Bluetooth everything, and you
Speaker 1: just carry around your own speaker. It's so lame compared
Speaker 1: to trying to figure out the chords and twisting the
Speaker 1: little copper part and all that stuff. Twitter at How
Speaker 1: about a fresca Doug A Gottlieb Show Jason Smith. Doug
Speaker 1: gotlied in for Dan and the Danettes today here on
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Coming up next, we got the Lands
Speaker 1: Dance to get too is now with Last Dance done,
Speaker 1: Lance Armstrong's documentary making some headlines, we'll get into that
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Speaker 1: Gottlieb in for Dan and the Danettes Today. It was
Speaker 1: just last Sunday we said goodbye to the Last Dance,
Speaker 1: the Michael Jordan documentary biography, and then you knew we're
Speaker 1: gonna get the onslaught of copycats or what's the next
Speaker 1: Last Dance? And now Lance Armstrong's thirty for thirty debuting
Speaker 1: last night, in which he had a lot of f
Speaker 1: bombs that he threw at the camera and telling some stories. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know the thing that gets me on this, Doug
Speaker 1: is that now everybody's gonna be looking for the next
Speaker 1: last dance and what's next? What what's the story we
Speaker 1: can tell, what's something we can have and and I
Speaker 1: think we kind of have to temper expectations that nothing's
Speaker 1: gonna have that kind of impact. I don't see there
Speaker 1: being any do that that is coming down the pipe
Speaker 1: anytime soon that's gonna have any kind of impact like
Speaker 1: last Dance did um, I would agree with you. I
Speaker 1: think there's there there's there's a couple of levels to it.
Speaker 1: One it is it's during basketball season when there was
Speaker 1: no basketball playoff season, where there's no basketball too was
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan and you know, uh, it was about championships.
Speaker 1: And then you know, I thought ESPN did a great
Speaker 1: job promoting it, and then I thought it was it
Speaker 1: was it was good um, and it was it was
Speaker 1: an era of the sport that people loved and loved
Speaker 1: to look back with with with glistening eyes over I
Speaker 1: don't like the Lance Armstrong documentary is very very different
Speaker 1: in a different tone. But no, no no, it will not
Speaker 1: have the same impact or be discussed in nearly the
Speaker 1: same amount, although I can talk about it for days
Speaker 1: that the Last Dance, well, you know what, I think
Speaker 1: people miss a little bit as you say, yes, it
Speaker 1: was a time in the night, you know, Michael Jordan,
Speaker 1: we want to look back at that. How much of
Speaker 1: a desire is to look back at Lance Armstrong's career,
Speaker 1: you know, I really want to see and go through
Speaker 1: everything that went on the past few years with his
Speaker 1: doping scandal and winning Tour de France. Now it's it's
Speaker 1: a fascinating story, but it just doesn't have that same
Speaker 1: overall while I gotta go see this, And part of
Speaker 1: that is that, you know, we went back and looked
Speaker 1: at Last Dance stuff. You know, Jordan was the biggest
Speaker 1: icon in the world, and he came about in the
Speaker 1: age before social media. So while we still knew a
Speaker 1: lot about Michael Jordan's life in his career, and certainly
Speaker 1: some of the stories that we heard we knew and
Speaker 1: we liked hearing him again, there was a lot of
Speaker 1: new information there just becau because you know, it wasn't
Speaker 1: that time. But like all these these people that are
Speaker 1: being trotted out there for DOCUMENTI so Lance Armstrong age
Speaker 1: of social media. You know, we knew everything about Lance Armstrong,
Speaker 1: Tiger Woods, we know everything about Tiger Woods. Well, what
Speaker 1: are we going to find out that we don't know?
Speaker 1: Tom Brady? What are we going to find out we
Speaker 1: don't know about? You know, all nine of his Super Bowls? Wait?
Speaker 1: I really I don't know that we're going to find
Speaker 1: anything new that's gonna be Wow. This is unbelievable stuff
Speaker 1: that may be a headline for a few hours after
Speaker 1: the show airs, and then afterwards we're gonna be on
Speaker 1: to something else. Well, I'd really disagree with you on that.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's so much about the Tiger stuff we
Speaker 1: don't know. There's a ton about Tom Brady and the
Speaker 1: Patriots we don't know, and Lance Armstrong stuff just in
Speaker 1: one episode. You know, there's so much more we we
Speaker 1: didn't know. Um, yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna totally disagree
Speaker 1: because the social media stuff is all BS as part
Speaker 1: of the deal, and you start to see this is
Speaker 1: this is really how it works. What but the the
Speaker 1: age of instant information is is more what I mean
Speaker 1: that that we know everything about these guys. Look, what's
Speaker 1: what's Brady gonna say? What's Brady really gonna say during
Speaker 1: his uh, during his big look back at the Super Bowls?
Speaker 1: That's gonna be something we go, Oh my god, I
Speaker 1: can't believe he's not gonna throw Bill Belichick under the ball. Well,
Speaker 1: well Brady, Okay, so Brady doesn't say, but that doesn't
Speaker 1: mean somebody else that they interview some other story that
Speaker 1: did it. You know, the the the deflate gate. I mean,
Speaker 1: what's the real story behind that? Or the spy gate,
Speaker 1: what's the real story behind that? Like, there's lots of
Speaker 1: stuff we have no idea about. We don't know about
Speaker 1: conversations and like did you know that Dennis Robin flew
Speaker 1: off to Vegas for forty eight hours? Or that that
Speaker 1: Jordan had to go into his Chicago apartment and get
Speaker 1: him you know, he Carmen Letcher's hide him behind, you know,
Speaker 1: hiding from from Jordan. Like you know, there's all kinds
Speaker 1: of little quirky stories that make it. And then you
Speaker 1: get to to Lance's stuff and there's so like I
Speaker 1: always suspected that he knew what he was putting into
Speaker 1: his body, but to the level to which they were
Speaker 1: all doing it and they all knew, uh, and they're
Speaker 1: all admitting it is I wasn't ready for. I I
Speaker 1: guess I was ready for but I'm even surprised by
Speaker 1: So I'm going to disagree with you that there's not
Speaker 1: we'll never have another Jordan. I mean Jordan, who was
Speaker 1: such an iconic figure, brand guy, plus the six championships.
Speaker 1: On the other hand, that doesn't mean that there won't
Speaker 1: be some really, really good and interesting documentaries that we
Speaker 1: won't watch as much, but we will definitely watch now
Speaker 1: because because of the Last Dance made it cool to
Speaker 1: watch documentaries again. Yeall that that I think is going
Speaker 1: to wind up being what the Last Dances legacy is,
Speaker 1: is that it's gonna spawn this new interest in whatever
Speaker 1: the sports stock genre turns into. Is what we're gonna
Speaker 1: get because of Last Dance. That's gonna be its lasting
Speaker 1: impact after this Twitter, Right, how about a Fresca Doug
Speaker 1: at Gottlieb show Jason Smith, Doug Gottlieb in for Dan
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Speaker 1: We'll have more on that coming up. We've got Rick
Speaker 1: Bucker in about a half hour or now from now,
Speaker 1: but coming up next we look back at the big
Speaker 1: and wild golf weekend involving Bread and Peyton Manning and
Speaker 1: Tiger and Phil Fox