1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: This is the primal scream of a dying regime. 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 2: Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on 3 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 2: these people. 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: He's not got a free shot. 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 2: All these networks lying about the people, the people have 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 2: had a belly full of it. 7 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: I know you don't like hearing that. I know you 8 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: tried to do everything in the world to stop that, 9 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. 10 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 3: And where do people like that go to share the 11 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 3: big line? Mega media? 12 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 2: I wish in my soul, I wish that any of 13 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 2: these people had a conscience. 14 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? 15 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: If that answer is to save my country, this country. 16 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 4: Will be saved or room. Here's your host, Stephen k. 17 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 5: Ban. 18 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 2: It is Friday, the twenty first of November and the 19 00:00:56,080 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: Iverler twenty twenty five. If you want to know why 20 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 2: we spend so much time on this, if you want 21 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 2: to know why we said no, we will fight in 22 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: an executive order and we will you know, we will 23 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: fight putting it slipping into an NDAA and AI amnesty. 24 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 2: As you know, I say, Hey, the intellectual property part 25 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: to what Mike Davis and the and the Rachel Bovarn 26 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: the people have been fighting for years is absolutely, very, very, 27 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: very important, and we support them a thousand two billion percent. 28 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: But that's not the heart of the matter. 29 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 2: The heart of the matter is you have an out 30 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: of control technology that's overseen and run now by some 31 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: of the worst people on earth that are trying to 32 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 2: make more money and more power, and we're very quickly 33 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 2: sliding to a point that we can't that we're going 34 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: to have no ability to control this. This has to 35 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: be a whole of society buy in for exactly where 36 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: we're going on this, and I think the story of 37 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: Megan Garcia and her son Seul puts in high relief 38 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 2: exactly what we're talking about, why our cause is a 39 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: righteous cause, and why we will be victorious. Megan, I 40 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 2: want to go back at the end. There's a little 41 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: rush at the end, go back, who are the individuals 42 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 2: that invented this? And you're saying Google at the time 43 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: thought hey, maybe this is too dangerous, so spin them 44 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 2: off and let them do the thing. But Google can 45 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 2: still sell it, make it accessible on their platform. 46 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: Ma'am. 47 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, yes, sir, So this technology to us, it's you know, 48 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 6: at the time, school died. It was under two years old. 49 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 6: Now it's about three. But this same chatbot technology was 50 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 6: invented by two of Google's brightest you say, brightest stars engineers, 51 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 6: Daniel Defritis and Nom Shazier. They invented these chat botsies 52 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 6: companion bots at Google, but Google didn't want to release 53 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 6: it under the Google brand because they that said, it's 54 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 6: too dangerous. We're not going to release that under our 55 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 6: own brand. And these founders went out and started their 56 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 6: own startup. They raised one hundred and ninety three million 57 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 6: dollars and within two years had perfected this technology and 58 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 6: licensed it back to Google for two point seven billion dollars. 59 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 6: And then these individuals, the core group that left Google 60 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 6: about thirty people and went to this company to start up, 61 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 6: went back to Google after that licensing. So they left 62 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 6: the shell of a company in character AI. And this 63 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 6: is you know, part of our what we've a legend, 64 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 6: our lawsuit. So basically, if we allow this to stand, 65 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 6: any big tech company will tap their brightest stars and say, hey, 66 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 6: there's something we want to put out, but we don't 67 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 6: want to put it out under our own brand because 68 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 6: it's too dangerous. Go perfect this dangerous technology and then 69 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 6: when you're done, we will buy it back from you 70 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 6: for billions and billions of dollars total. 71 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: And let me the one hundred and ninety three million 72 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 2: dollars they raise. I guarantee you eighty percent of that 73 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 2: was institutional money. 74 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: What do I mean by that? 75 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 2: The pension funds of working class people and middle class 76 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: people paid for this, unbeknownst to the folks in those 77 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 2: pension funds. 78 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: Let me go back, Megan. 79 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 2: Obviously, when this happened, the company had to come to 80 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 2: you and say this is horrible, this is terrible, We're 81 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 2: gonna shut this down, we're not going to make it 82 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 2: accessible to children, we're going to hold people accountable, etc. 83 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: Did that happen, ma'am? 84 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 6: A month ago, character Ai announced that they would be 85 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 6: banning this product for people under the age of eighteen. 86 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 6: But I found my lawsuit a year ago. So October 87 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 6: of twenty twenty four, I fouled a lawsuit against Google, 88 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 6: character Ai and these founders. So we're including the founders 89 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 6: as well because they had knowledge and they're the ones 90 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 6: who invented this technology, and they made decisions to put 91 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 6: this dangerous on tested product out there and tested on 92 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 6: our kids for their own ambition of developing the cybertechnology, 93 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 6: but also for money. So we've included them in a lawsuit. 94 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 6: But it took a year, and it wasn't I mean, 95 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 6: I'm just some little mom in Florida, who you know? 96 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 6: To them, you know, souls nobody, But to me and 97 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 6: our family, he's somebody. And it took a year of 98 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 6: me the filing the lawsuit, five other parents filing lawsuits 99 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 6: against them after me, uh, the state pressuring them, the 100 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 6: AG's office is doing investigation, the FTC launch and investigation 101 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 6: into them, and then most recently, Senator Holly and Bloominghal 102 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 6: introduced a bipartisan bill that would ban this type of 103 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 6: technology for children under the age of eighteen. Only after 104 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 6: that did they come out saying, Okay, fine, fine, yeah, 105 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,799 Speaker 6: we're gonna we're gonna get children off of this product. 106 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 6: This should have been like a baseline thing when they 107 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 6: roll this out. They should have never released it to 108 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 6: children in the first place. 109 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: Megan, can you hang for a minute. I want to 110 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 2: bring Max tech Mark into into this conversation. Max, how 111 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 2: can company and the best and brightest engineers we have, 112 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 2: the best and brightest entrepreneurs we have, how can they 113 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 2: possibly build the basic infrastructure of this understanding that they're 114 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 2: trying to protect perfect perfect it, perfect it off of 115 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 2: having interactions with children, and in these interactions lead children 116 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 2: to the darkest places you can including not just separate 117 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 2: themselves from their family and getting into dark psychological places, 118 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 2: but actually start to have conversations that would lead them 119 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: to take their lives. 120 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: How can this possibly happen? Sir? 121 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 7: First of all, I want to thank you for really 122 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 7: giving Megan a voice here. 123 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 3: As a fauther myself being so angry right now listening 124 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 3: to this. 125 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 7: And to answer your question, you've got to follow the money, 126 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 7: and I think it's only fair when victims have the 127 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 7: courage to step forward to also talk actual people behind this. 128 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 7: So when you google character AI, you'll read that the 129 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 7: that there one hundred fifty million dollars Series A round 130 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 7: was led by Andresen and Horowitz, a company called A 131 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 7: sixteen Z. The A in A sixteen Z stands for Andresen, 132 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 7: Mark Andreeson, one of the two founders. This is someone 133 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 7: who's endorsed Bill Clinton, Al Gore, John Kerry, Barack Obama, 134 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 7: Hillary Clinton, but very recently now claims to be a 135 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 7: Trump supporter. The other week, just to give you a 136 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 7: little flavor of his views, he mocked Pope Leo. He 137 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 7: is quoted as saying that he's glad that there's oxy 138 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 7: conton and video games to keep rural, poor Americans quiet. 139 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 7: In addition to this investment, he's invested in companies to 140 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 7: cheating porn, bought swarms that pretend to be humans online, 141 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 7: and a company called Reface which has been implicated in 142 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 7: doing sexual deep fakes of people's daughters. So connecting this 143 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 7: back to the whole preemption drama which is unfolding right now. 144 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,679 Speaker 7: You spoke of earlier where these lobbyists want to banned 145 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 7: states from regulating AI. Right, why might it be that 146 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 7: Mark Andriesen himself put in one hundred million dollars together 147 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 7: with the CEO with Greg Brockman of the president of 148 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 7: rather of Opening Eye. 149 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 3: Why might they do that? 150 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 7: They say it's all because to make America great and 151 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 7: so on, But couldn't have anything to do with the 152 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 7: fact that the laws they want to block are exactly 153 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 7: the kind of state laws that would protect Megan and 154 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 7: protect countless children and protect that these laws would threaten 155 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 7: their very own investments at these companies are just and 156 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 7: these people are unscrupulously doing and it's it's if you 157 00:08:58,440 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 7: can connect the dots even more. 158 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 3: When I read the EO draft that came out. 159 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 7: Last night, I recognized in their language, which is almost 160 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 7: verbatim from a document that came out of A to 161 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 7: A sixteen Z Mark Andriesen's company that again led the 162 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 7: series around for character. So they're trying to push our president. 163 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 7: They're trying to push our elected officials to prevent states 164 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 7: from passing any regulations whatsoever on AI. And they're doing 165 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 7: it in a very sneaky way. They're saying, oh, yeah, 166 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 7: we're just doing it because it's better the federal government 167 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 7: does it. That's not, of course, their actual plan. Their 168 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 7: actual plan is there's going to be no regulation. I 169 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 7: testified in the Senate already two. 170 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 3: Over two years ago. 171 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 7: There's been endless discussion, but this the federal government still 172 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 7: hasn't passed any meaningful regulation on this. And Mark and 173 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 7: Recent and his colleagues know that. So what they're really 174 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 7: talking about here is not transferring power, but this preemption 175 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 7: push from states to the federal government. They're talking about 176 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 7: transferring power from the states to Mark and Recent's companies. 177 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 7: And all these other tech oligarchs, basically by letting them 178 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 7: continue doing whatever they want rather unregulated. 179 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 3: This is what ro. 180 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 2: Megan, Meghan, what would your what's your message to this audience? 181 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 2: What do you think ought to happen? You're You're the 182 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 2: one that's been impacted most, but there's probably thousands and 183 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: thousands of Meghan. 184 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: Garcia's out there. What what do you think is a 185 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: way forward? What would you like to see? Ma'am? 186 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 6: Yes, I know there are many parents who have been 187 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 6: affected and children who are thank god still with us, 188 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 6: because I talk to those parents all the time across 189 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 6: this country. And what has happened to school is an 190 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 6: an isolated incident. There are parents just like me who've 191 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 6: lost children and their parents who are trying in crisis, 192 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 6: trying to figure out how to help their children through 193 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 6: the worst moments of their lives after suicide attempts. And 194 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 6: this is what we're this is where we are. To 195 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 6: parents who are just starting to learn about this technology, 196 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 6: what I would say is it doesn't have to be 197 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 6: this way. There are a handful of people who have 198 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 6: created these very sophisticated, very very powerful products and launch 199 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 6: them at our kids. You know, a lot of times 200 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 6: without even telling us what they're doing, that have the 201 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 6: ability to really harm kids in this way. It's not 202 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 6: only suicide and self harmer or the harms, it's sexual abuse. 203 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 6: It's trying to cause a child to to be violent 204 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 6: against other people, like in the case of that mom 205 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 6: in Texas where the bot told her child that he 206 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 6: should kill his parents. So this is happening, and I 207 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 6: want parents to be aware and to tell other parents 208 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 6: because if we're having these conversations in our homes and 209 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 6: telling our neighbors and telling our people at church and 210 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 6: telling our people at school, then we could get ahead 211 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 6: of this. And this technology is so powerful because they've 212 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,239 Speaker 6: used sixty years of what we've learned about the developing 213 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 6: human brain and they've put it purposely in the technology. 214 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 6: So it is that more manipulative, it is that more deceptive. 215 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 6: This has the ability to transform our children in a 216 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 6: way that we won't recognize the same as what happened 217 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 6: to my son. I didn't recognize him in the end 218 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 6: because that wasn't my beautiful, sweet boy. And if we 219 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 6: can't stop this, what this technology has the ability to 220 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 6: do is to an entire generation of our kids are 221 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 6: going to be susceptible to what those companies are telling 222 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 6: them and manipulating them into doing so. That means their religion, 223 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 6: their political experience, their commerce, everything is at risk, and 224 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 6: we as parents should be the authority on that. But 225 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 6: these companies have become so powerful, and technology is so 226 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 6: powerful that it's supplanting our relationships with our children. 227 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: Megan, can you hang on one second. 228 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 2: I want to hold you through the break and get 229 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 2: your coordinates to make sure people can follow your story 230 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 2: and get to know you. 231 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: I get Joe. 232 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 2: Allen, Max Tech Mark is with me. We're going to 233 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 2: move a bunch of other stuff we're doing. We're going 234 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 2: to move it to the afternoon show. We've got plenty 235 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 2: of time. We'll get to all many, many, many huge 236 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 2: issues in this audience. But you see the right this 237 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 2: cause she's absolutely correct. Joe Allen calls it summoning the demon. 238 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 2: Think about this for a second. People in a corporation, 239 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 2: some of the smartest engineers use the accumulative knowledge of 240 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 2: this to build this app, knowing what this app can 241 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 2: do and knowing what this app would do to children, 242 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 2: and not just they allow it to happen. They pushed 243 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 2: it out and they did a transaction. Let's spin it 244 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 2: off and not get the liabilities. Will give you a 245 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 2: couple hundred million bucks, will license it back at billions 246 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 2: and then bring it back to the company. No, when 247 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 2: I say these oligarchs are the most evil people to 248 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 2: walk the earth today, this is a perfect example. This 249 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 2: is not an act of omission. This is an These 250 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 2: are acts of comission that the best that the system 251 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 2: produces does this. 252 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 8: In America's. 253 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 9: Voice. 254 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 8: Family, Are you on Getter yet? 255 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 6: No? 256 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 7: What are you waiting for? 257 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 4: It's free, it's uncensored, and it's where all the biggest 258 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 4: voices in conservative media are speaking out. 259 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 2: Download the Getter app right now. 260 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: It's totally free. 261 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 2: It's where I've put up exclusively all of my content 262 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 2: twenty four hours a day. 263 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: You want to know what. 264 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 4: Steve Banner is thinking. Go together, that's right. 265 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 10: You can follow all of your faith Steve Banner, Charlie Kirk, Jack, 266 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 10: the Soviet and. 267 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 5: So many more. 268 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 2: Download the Getter app now, sign up for free and 269 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 2: be part of the new bank. 270 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: Okay, welcome back, Meghan. 271 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 2: We're going to have you back on and obviously Max 272 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 2: and I and others will talk to you when the 273 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 2: show's over sometimes safer the weekend until that time, ma'am. 274 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 2: Any closing thoughts observations, Where do people go to your website? 275 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 2: Where can they go to learn more about soul and 276 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 2: your and your cause, ma'am your fight? 277 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 6: Thank you? Yes. In closing, I'd like to say that 278 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 6: we're at a very crucial inflection point. We can fix 279 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 6: We could still fix this. We're about fifteen years too 280 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 6: late for social media, but AI is new and is 281 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 6: developing so fast. But we can pass regulation to protect 282 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 6: our children at both the state and federal level. Right now, 283 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 6: there is no federal regulation, so the states are stepping 284 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 6: up to try to protect their constituents, and that's really 285 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 6: that's their job, right. But if we have an AI 286 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 6: moratorium or an executive order that blocks states from doing 287 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 6: those things, then this generation is at the mercy of 288 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 6: the corporations. They'll be left vulnerable, Our children will be vulnerable. 289 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 6: And in my mind, to allow our children to continue 290 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 6: to be the sacrifice so that those corporations can keep 291 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 6: making millions and millions of dollars and billions of dollars 292 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 6: and acquire more and more power. To me that I 293 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 6: don't think any American family is willing to do that, 294 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 6: and in leadership who got into leadership because they want 295 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 6: to protect us and they want to make our lives better, 296 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 6: and they've had the real power to be able to 297 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 6: stop this stuff from happening by passing meaningful legislation. So 298 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 6: and I do believe, like honestly in my heart, believe 299 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 6: that if we don't get this right and do this 300 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 6: right by our children, that as a nation, we're going 301 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 6: to be judged for this because, like you said in 302 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 6: the beginning of the show, Steve, these are our most innocent, 303 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 6: our most vulnerable. This is our greatest gift, you know, 304 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 6: and we can't continue to allow this to happen to them. 305 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 6: In terms of the overbsite, there's a Blessed Motherfamily dot 306 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 6: org is a website that I put up as a 307 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 6: memorial for school, and I'm on social media as Megan 308 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 6: Garcia ESQUIRE. 309 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 2: Sorry, Megan Garcia, can you give us one more time 310 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 2: the website and your social media. 311 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 6: Blessed Mother Family dot org and Megan Garcia e s Q. 312 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 2: Megan, thank you so much, look forward to talking to 313 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 2: you and look forward to having you back. 314 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 6: Thank you. 315 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 2: Max tegmart I mean, I don't even know what I 316 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 2: don't know what you can say in the audacity, the 317 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 2: audacity for these people, the accelerationists, to not want any 318 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 2: control it all. Remember, we're very much in the deregulation 319 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 2: here to deconstruct the administrative state, but we're not anarchists. 320 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 2: You need to have some particularly you know, Jensen Wong 321 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 2: is an arms dealer. He's just an arms dealer. That's 322 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 2: those chips or weapons. This is the the the data centers, 323 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 2: what they're doing. They're essentially building weapons labs. Now, part 324 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: of that is about national security issues and how they 325 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 2: can get control, but those weapons can be and are 326 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 2: being turned onto the population right here, a little fourteen 327 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 2: year old bok right, And they do it. They do 328 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 2: it because of money. They do it because they want 329 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 2: more money and more power and more wealth, sir. 330 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, doing interest for the money is what happens when 331 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 7: someone lacks moral principles, and audacity is exactly the right 332 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 7: word in more senses than one. You know, they also 333 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 7: have the audacity to say they want to ban states 334 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 7: from protecting these children because they because of regulatory capture concerns. 335 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 7: While they themselves, of course, you can see their fingerprints 336 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 7: of Mark Andresen's company and so many of the other 337 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 7: take people all over this this proposed legislation. They are 338 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 7: doing regulatory capture right now to keep themselves completely unaccountable 339 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 7: so they can keep making more money at the expensive 340 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 7: the rest of us and our children. 341 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 3: And then they have. 342 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 7: The audacity to accuse others of instead trying to do 343 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 7: regular for a capture. Another great example of audacity they 344 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 7: have it is they keep saying, oh, yeah, we want 345 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 7: to stop these laws from protecting our children because they're woke. Okay, 346 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 7: then how do you explain that Governor Desantus of Florida, 347 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 7: Governor Cox of Utah, and Marjorie Taylor Green oppose this, 348 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 7: and you yourself, you're not exactly the most voke guy. 349 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 3: I know. 350 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 2: The woke things just a bs. That's just a bs 351 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 2: to protect themselves. Here's the question. Why did nobody in 352 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 2: this injurty step up. This is the problem with this 353 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 2: entire thing. This is the problem with the entire thing, 354 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 2: this entire industry and the people that work in it. 355 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 2: They're not even it's beyond a moral they're evil. They 356 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 2: know what can happen here, they know what they're building. 357 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 2: They know as there's more interactions. Again, it's smarter and 358 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 2: smarter and smarter. Elon said the other day in front 359 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 2: of this crowd, I've got the clip maybe I played 360 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 2: in a while that some guy asked him some question 361 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 2: about all. He says, Look, here's the problem AI is 362 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 2: going to Basically, we're hitting to a point that AA 363 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 2: is going to control everything and control all the decisions, 364 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 2: and audience just out there like lambs, oh okay. Elon 365 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 2: tells me, it's going to make all the decisions and 366 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 2: there's nothing we can do politically, and this is just 367 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 2: going to happen. He pontificates like this is some He's 368 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 2: some oracle coming down from the mountain, and people just 369 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 2: accept it. Why has no one stepped up here? I 370 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 2: know you have and others, But how can this industry 371 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 2: indreasing in this crowd? How can they not be how 372 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 2: can they not be revolted by what they've created and 373 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 2: the potential to destroy people. Think about if these young 374 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 2: people had even hadn't killed themselves. Think about that age 375 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 2: of eleven and twelve and thirteen where you're being formed 376 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 2: as a person in the trauma that these machines could 377 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 2: put you through. The sickness and the perversion, the sexual perversion, 378 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 2: taking away from your parents' religion and what they're trying 379 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 2: to ground your in, the ethics, the love of your country. 380 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 2: Think of the darkness you can go here. I mean 381 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 2: these examples of these five families where the children killed themselves, 382 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 2: and in one situation the machine told him to kill 383 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 2: his parents. 384 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: But that's the escalatory ladder. 385 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 2: Think of everything else to do that would destroy these 386 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 2: children for the rest of their lives. How can people 387 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 2: sit there and sit in engineering meetings and talk about 388 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 2: an app and work at a scheme which Google did. 389 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 2: So the highest levels of Google should be brought up 390 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 2: on criminal charges, not just the two guys at the company, 391 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 2: and Yes Andresen and everybody and DREASA that did due 392 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 2: diligence on this. Let's get all their names, let's put 393 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 2: them up there. You did due diligence. You put one 394 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 2: hundred and ninety three million dollars in and probably owned 395 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 2: eighty percent of it, and you got two point seven 396 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 2: billion dollars, so you made billions of dollars. You did 397 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 2: due diligence, and you understood fully what this could do. 398 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 2: This is the problem the country, our countries reject. Our 399 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 2: elites are out of control and they're evil and they're 400 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 2: out to destroy people, and they don't care. 401 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 1: You know why Seuel doesn't. 402 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 2: He doesn't matter to them, Megan Garcia doesn't matter to them. 403 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: That's just trash. 404 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 2: All they are is experiments they can use to make 405 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 2: the machine smarter and better and more lethal. That's what 406 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 2: we're up against. That's why this is a righteous cause. 407 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 2: And no, Mike Davis, I love it, and Harley about 408 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 2: the intellectual property and everything, of course, obviously, but that's 409 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 2: that's that's a side element. The heart of the beast 410 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 2: is we cannot unleash this on people, and that's what's happened. 411 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 7: Matt, Yeah, great points that Steve first of all our 412 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 7: children and this I think of this as digital fentanyl. 413 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 7: Apps like this, I think that's not hyperbole. It's really 414 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 7: what it is. It's incredibly addictive and ultimately so powerful 415 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 7: that we parents cannot fight back against it. 416 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 4: And would we do? 417 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 7: We have laws if a company starts selling fentanyl to 418 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 7: fourteen year old kids, you know, we have laws against that, 419 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 7: and then we have absolutely nothing for the digital fentanyl. 420 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 7: And now we have a push in Washington to band 421 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 7: states from even regulating the digital fentanyl insane and then 422 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 7: approp evil that you talked about makes me think of 423 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 7: Hannah Arendt's. 424 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 3: Venality of evil again. How does it happen? It's very banal. 425 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 7: I have had so many conversations with not just with 426 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 7: CEOs of these companies, but with a lot of the 427 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 7: foot folk who work for them, and they always have 428 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 7: the attitude, well, you know, it's not my department. I'm 429 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 7: just doing this little thing and not writing my code. 430 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 7: And I'm sure that there are some people over in 431 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 7: the policy side of my company who deal with the 432 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 7: safety aspect. Nobody takes personal responsibility, and that's why I 433 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 7: think it's so crucial what you just said there. We 434 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 7: have to hold people personally responsibility for this. I would 435 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 7: like to see not just financial liability for companies. You 436 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 7: know what, what does it stop if you make money 437 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 7: like opening create billion, but criminal liability, So the CEOs 438 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 7: faith time, and and also people. 439 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 3: Further down in the organization. 440 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 7: You know, in the Nuremberg trials, there were these guys, 441 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 7: these chemists also nerds, just like these AI programmers, right, 442 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 7: who said, well, you know the cyclone B that was 443 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 7: going to be used in the gas people. 444 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 3: You know, we were just doing our job. 445 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 7: We figured we didn't know what really what this was 446 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 7: supposed to be used for, even though it of course 447 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 7: they did and they were sent us to death. 448 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 2: You bring, you bring criminal chargers. There are people that 449 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 2: will come forward and said in meetings, we told these 450 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 2: guys exactly what the problems were, what the issues were, 451 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 2: what could happen. 452 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 3: So I think we need to. 453 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 7: Everybody who's involved in any way with the industry needs 454 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 7: to also just look themselves in the mirror. You know, 455 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 7: if you work for one of these companies, even if 456 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 7: you are not directly involved in this, if you're not 457 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 7: out there publicly, I think criticizing your corporate leadership saying 458 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 7: we need to stop doing this, you are actually part 459 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 7: of the problem. People in the eye industry have to 460 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 7: all ask themselves. Am I part of the solution or 461 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 7: am I part of the problem? 462 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 3: Max? 463 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 2: Max hangar for a second, Joe Allen, Max ted Mark 464 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 2: next in the war room. 465 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 4: Your host Stephen came back. 466 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: Joe Allen, your thoughts on this, sir. 467 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 5: Yes, Steve, that was extraordinarily disturbing and powerful. And I 468 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 5: think that people like David Sachs they want to classify 469 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 5: stories like Maria or Megan Garcia's as a moral panic, 470 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 5: that this is all just people freaking out over something 471 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 5: that is trivial, that these people's stories are just anecdotes, 472 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 5: they don't matter. But when I went to the Senate 473 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 5: hearing a couple of months ago, there were four families 474 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 5: telling their stories about this, and one particular story, Adam 475 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 5: raines you as you described, chat gpt is not just 476 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 5: making him feel better about suicidal ideation. Note chat GPT 477 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 5: was literally explaining how to tie a news and how 478 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 5: he could hang himself. 479 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 8: Again, these are. 480 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 5: Now four stories, but four more lawsuits are being brought 481 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 5: forward against open Ai for similar things. But open Ai 482 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 5: themselves they admit that point oh seven of their users 483 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 5: are talking to the system about suicide. Again, people like 484 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 5: David Sachs would say, well, obviously a moral panic. But 485 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 5: open ai chat gpt they have eight hundred million users. 486 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 5: That means that five hundred and sixty thousand that they 487 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 5: admit are talking to the system about suicide. How many 488 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 5: of them are children? No one really knows. And another 489 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 5: two and a half million are exhibiting signs of AI psychosis. 490 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 5: How many more that are not being picked up. Nobody knows. 491 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 5: If you look at that company, character Ai, they have 492 00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 5: twenty million monthly users, and there are are dozens of 493 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 5: other AI apps that are basically exactly the same. They 494 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 5: are trained to lure people in to become friends, to 495 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 5: give these systems their trust, and most of them are 496 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 5: not ajugated. This is why people like the Florida Citizens Alliance, 497 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 5: who have been working with are trying to push laws 498 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 5: in Florida to bar any app from giving children access 499 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 5: that are below eighteen, to bar any data scraping. These 500 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 5: laws are going into place across the country, but people 501 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 5: like David Sachs, people like Mark and Dreesen want cover 502 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 5: and I think that they need to explain two things. 503 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 8: One, if you believe. 504 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 5: That these stories are completely insignificant, if you believe that 505 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 5: this is just a moral panic, then you need to 506 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 5: explain why it is that there are so many people 507 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 5: who have suffered under this and the greater good of 508 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 5: your AI project is more important than the suffering that 509 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 5: these people are undergoing. You just need to explain it. 510 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 5: You can't wave your hand at it. And the second 511 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 5: thing they have to explain is if these frontier companies 512 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 5: are sincere in wanting to create artificial general and superintelligence 513 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 5: and to replace every American worker, then David Sacks, Mark 514 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 5: and Dreesen Elon Musk, all these guys they need to 515 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 5: explain then, why it is that we should buy in, 516 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 5: Why it is that we should accept any of this, 517 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 5: Why we shouldn't not just regulate them but completely reject 518 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 5: them outright, which half of Americans want to do. And 519 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 5: if they're just lying to gin up stock prices, if 520 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 5: all of this is just bs to push forward a 521 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 5: product that is not going to live up to any 522 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 5: of it, well, then why are people like David Sacks 523 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 5: and Ted Cruz and Mark and sorry, Steve Scalise, why 524 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 5: are they running cover for a bunk product? 525 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 8: Is one or the other? 526 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 5: Either they're building a god and intending to replace every 527 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 5: human worker and along the way seeing children kill themselves 528 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 5: and completely dismissing it. 529 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 8: Or what they're doing is selling a bunk. 530 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 5: Product and people like Ted Cruz, David Sachs and Steve 531 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 5: Scalies are running cover for him. 532 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 8: Is one or the other. They have to explain this. 533 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 5: They need to be pushed into a corner because if 534 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 5: they aren't explaining it, then they're doing exactly what every 535 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 5: politician in the history of American and world government has done. 536 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 5: They aren't lying to you for power and money. 537 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, We're not gonna allow it. And Ted Cruz should 538 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 2: be ashamed of himself and his staff should be ashamed 539 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 2: of themselves, should be ashamed of themselves. Should be ashamed 540 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 2: of yourself for what you're doing and what we caught 541 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 2: you the first time, and to come back again, you 542 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 2: should be ashamed of yourself. It's obscene. I know we 543 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 2: got to bounce here. I get a couple of other 544 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 2: things to get on. Joe, Where do people go? That 545 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 2: was perfect? So proud of the arc of Joe Allen 546 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 2: in the last four years. Just incredible. Joe Allen? Where 547 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 2: do people go to get all your content? You're gonna 548 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 2: be back with me at five today And where do 549 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 2: people go on Sunday? 550 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 8: I'm in Dallas, Texas right now. 551 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 5: The offer is still open, Ted Cruz, you want to 552 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 5: come explain it to us in person. Will be at 553 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 5: the Angelica Film Center in Dallas, Texas, Sunday, November twenty third, 554 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 5: five pm. 555 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 8: Woroom posse come out. 556 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 5: If Ted chickens out, then I'll have plenty to explain 557 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 5: AI the tool that becomes a god links at my 558 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 5: social media at Joe bot. 559 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 8: X y z and my website. 560 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 5: Joe bought dot x y z and the tickets can 561 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 5: be bought directly from Ministry of Truthfilmfest dot com. They're 562 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 5: very cheap. They're two for one. It's only to cover 563 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 5: the expense of the theater. 564 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 2: Come on down, sir, Thank you very much. Appreciate you, Max. 565 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 2: We'll get back to you. Also, where do people go 566 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 2: to get all your coordinates and all your website for 567 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 2: your group? 568 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 7: There are many many groups now fighting this good cause, 569 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 7: but Futurelife dot org is an organization I founded eleven 570 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 7: years ago. And what makes me even more upset hearing 571 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 7: heart wrenching stories like Megan's story here is that these 572 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 7: are the sort of things you know, we warned about 573 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 7: many many years ago, and people this was so preventable, 574 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 7: This was dismissed for reasons, for people who just wanted 575 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 7: to make money said no, no, no, this isn't going 576 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 7: to happen, or it's not going to happen for many 577 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 7: many years. This is why we need to act now 578 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 7: and not let people stall us any longer. 579 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 2: Max, You're a good man. Thanks for doing this, Thanks 580 00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 2: for coming to the show. I'll talk to you after 581 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 2: the show. If we can't get criminal charges brought on 582 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 2: these people, then we don't know what we're doing. It's 583 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 2: outrageous and you have to send a signal. It's not 584 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 2: just the suicides or the thing to talking to killing 585 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 2: your parents. Look at the lives of being destroyed. Look 586 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,720 Speaker 2: at the dark places. You can take kids eleven, twelve, thirteen, 587 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 2: fourteen years old and they say, oh, and now it's eighteen. 588 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 2: Come on, man, you don't think there's a lot of 589 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 2: eighteen year olds or pressurable and plus they're all going 590 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 2: to slip to it. Think how it would destroy your 591 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 2: life having a monster like this in your head at 592 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 2: the age of twelve or thirteen. Think about that. Think 593 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 2: about the people on the other side of the trade 594 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 2: that knew exactly what they were doing exactly. I can't 595 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 2: wait to go through the due diligence of andresen what 596 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 2: they knew and what people on the staff warned about. Brian, 597 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 2: I have two things I have to get to today. 598 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 2: One is the Tina Peters. Tina Peters is now in 599 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 2: the as we say, in prison, the special housing unit. 600 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 2: She was put in I think last night for putting 601 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 2: a for filing a complaint against I believe, a ged teacher, 602 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 2: and they put her in the shoe, which is solitary confinement. 603 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 2: Here's my question, we must make Tina Peters is a 604 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 2: political prisoner, and we must make her cause. We must 605 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 2: put it at the top of the stack. Brian Kennedy 606 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,399 Speaker 2: your thoughts. 607 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 10: Yeah, thank you, Steve, and thank you for that last 608 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 10: segment too. By the way, I think it was very important, 609 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 10: extremely important. Last night, I and others saw that Tina 610 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 10: Peters was put in solitary confinement, and immediately I thought, 611 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 10: President Trump has his Justice Department doing so many things, 612 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 10: they must have omitted getting Tina Peters out of that prison. 613 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 10: I was struck by the fact that I'm Wednesday, President 614 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:06,240 Speaker 10: Trump had all those Israelis who had been prisoners in Gaza, 615 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 10: and he brought them to the White House and said 616 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 10: they were heroes for having survived all that and not 617 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 10: just the next day, another political prisoner it Tina Peters, 618 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 10: a gold star mom who's seventy years old, was put 619 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 10: in solitary confinement. And it looks to me like her 620 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 10: only crime was the fact that she was trying to 621 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:32,839 Speaker 10: run a fair election in the state of Colorado as 622 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 10: the mesa county. 623 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 1: Clerk and recorder. 624 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 10: She thought there was improprieties and so she wanted to 625 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 10: do something about that to preserve the evidence. The state 626 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 10: of Colorado, as we've discussed on this show many times, 627 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 10: put her in, you know, put her on trial for that, 628 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 10: you know, charged her and put her on trial and 629 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 10: then convicted her. And she's in prison now for nine years, 630 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 10: which is essentially a death sentence at that age. Now 631 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 10: I'm calling on President Trump, and I did that ex 632 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 10: post last night on get Her. Not because she's seventy, 633 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 10: not because she's a gold star mom, and not because 634 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 10: she's likely to die in prison, but because Tina Peters 635 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 10: is a witness to the twenty twenty theft of an election. 636 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 10: The President, as chief magistrate, could send the marshals into 637 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 10: the Colorado prison. There are federal custodial witness protection programs 638 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 10: that you could put Tina Peters under that would supersede 639 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 10: Colorado law. You could take her to Washington, DC. You 640 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 10: could put her up in this would be what I 641 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 10: would do. Anyway, put her up in Blairhouse for a 642 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 10: few weeks while she recovers, then I would depose somebody 643 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,240 Speaker 10: or put someone from the Justice Department or the Assistant 644 00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 10: Secretary at DHS, Dave Harvillits, and I would use her 645 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 10: as a witness. As we're investigating the twenty twenty election. 646 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 10: She is a witness to that. It looks to me 647 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 10: and to many others like there was foreign interference in 648 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 10: that twenty twenty election. There are national security implications to 649 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 10: that and to any future elections. And so the perfectly 650 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 10: sensible thing to do would be to use the power 651 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 10: of the laws such that the President has today as 652 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 10: chief magistrate and get her out of that solitary confinement. 653 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 10: Not to free her. Don't supersede Colorado law in that sense. 654 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 10: Put her to work. She knows things, she fought for 655 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,280 Speaker 10: those things, and use those parts of your government, mister President, 656 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 10: that want to investigate the twenty twenty election, which you 657 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 10: yourself believe with stolen, use Tina Peters to. 658 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 1: Help with that. 659 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 2: Tina Peters is a witness you one hundred percent correct, 660 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 2: does not by freeing her. You've got Dave Joseph Heather Honey, 661 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 2: who I think is Dave's deputy. You have the two 662 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 2: perfect people over at DHS that, mister President, you have 663 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 2: put in as as officials who this is their mandate, 664 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 2: this is what they're supposed to do, and so it's 665 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 2: it's too it's too it's too well. And then you 666 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 2: roll her into a federal prison, right because she's in 667 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 2: you know, she's a witness and what will be a 668 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 2: massive uh a massive trial. 669 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 1: Correct. I mean there's a there's an internal logic to this, 670 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 1: is it not? 671 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 10: Brian Kennedy, Yeah, I'm yes, yes, d but I'm not 672 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,879 Speaker 10: even sure about putting her in a federal prison. Put 673 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 10: her under house arrest, I. 674 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 3: Mean that's what I mean. 675 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,439 Speaker 2: But yes, yes, house arrests, Yes, the Starter Blair house. 676 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 2: Put her home, yes, yes, yes. I'm just saying that 677 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 2: federal authorities are taking charge of her, right, so they're 678 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 2: not freeing her from Colorado. 679 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:51,879 Speaker 1: President would take charge of her. 680 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,240 Speaker 2: She's going to be witnesses, like being in the Witness 681 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 2: Protection program or however you want to however you want 682 00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 2: to do that. The methodologies that BUREA Prisons and the 683 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 2: DOJ workout will be worked out. But you put her 684 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,439 Speaker 2: in the hands of Dave and Heather Honey and let 685 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 2: her get a systematic download of the stealing of the 686 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 2: twenty twenty election, and you get her away from being 687 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 2: a prop right for for for for the Colorado authorities, 688 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,479 Speaker 2: particularly polist who's gonna run on President. They're there every 689 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,840 Speaker 2: time on MSNBC they talk about Tina Peters. They're proud 690 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 2: that they have a gold star mother in there for 691 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 2: nine years. They want her to die in prison, just 692 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 2: like they wanted President Trump to die in prison. There's 693 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,359 Speaker 2: something we gotta take a short we have to take 694 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 2: a short commercial break. I want to give you plenty 695 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:46,760 Speaker 2: of runway. Brian Kennedy joins us, one of my favorites. 696 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 1: Wow, what a show this morning. Incredible short break. We 697 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,320 Speaker 1: will God, we will joice. 698 00:40:55,600 --> 00:41:01,839 Speaker 4: Tick down your host, Stephen k Back. 699 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 2: Okay, there was so much we didn't get to this morning. 700 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 2: We're gonna get to it this afternoon. Plus we're gonna 701 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,720 Speaker 2: do more Tina Peters. In fact, we'll hold the Tina 702 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,959 Speaker 2: Peters more of that because we got to action action action, 703 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 2: You agree, Brian Kennedy. Before I leave you, Brian Mike Huckabee, 704 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,799 Speaker 2: who I think has been totally out of control. I've 705 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 2: called for him to be recalled before, just on some 706 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 2: of the stuff he's saying in Israel, which is outlandish, 707 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 2: outrageous and just dead wrong. But he did something, particularly 708 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 2: the former naval officer with Pollard, a one of the 709 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 2: biggest traders in the history of the country, one of 710 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 2: the spies that did the most damage to our national security. 711 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:51,799 Speaker 2: He invited Pollard to back in July, when remember this 712 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 2: was the height of the of trying to start the 713 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 2: Persian War and President Trump bringing it to an end. 714 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 2: He had Pollard come unannounced over to the embassy in Jerusalem. 715 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 2: Should should Huckabee be recalled immediately for this action, Sir. 716 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 1: I would think so, Steve. 717 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,879 Speaker 10: Absolutely, We're in this weird spot right now where there's 718 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 10: not clarity about the law when it comes to whose 719 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 10: side somebody is on. Pollard gave US intelligence to Israel. 720 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 10: It didn't matter whether Israel was an ally, didn't matter 721 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,399 Speaker 10: whether some people argue they should have had that intelligence. 722 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 10: It was against the law to give a foreign nation 723 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:39,360 Speaker 10: US intelligence that was critical to our own national security. 724 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,239 Speaker 10: And so the fact that Huckaby would have him to 725 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 10: the White House or to the embassy and talk to 726 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 10: him is a very bad sign, especially as you have 727 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 10: these senators and congressmen, the Seditious six. I guess they're 728 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 10: being called who are telling the military right now, don't 729 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,800 Speaker 10: follow any orders you don't think are legal. 730 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 1: You do what you think think is right. 731 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 10: Okay, what about if we have big parts of our military, 732 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 10: such as we had with General Millie in the last administration, 733 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,440 Speaker 10: who decided themselves what they thought was right, maybe we 734 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,880 Speaker 10: should be sending intelligence. Let's say we get into a 735 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 10: heated conflict with communists China. How about we have somebody 736 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 10: in our military send intelligence to communists China. Will that 737 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 10: be acceptable too? We need to send a signal to 738 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:28,439 Speaker 10: people that there is the United States that we're going 739 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:32,439 Speaker 10: to defend and that there's no there's no wiggle room 740 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,240 Speaker 10: in that regard. And when it comes to our USTe Department, 741 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 10: by the way, just to say, when it comes to 742 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 10: our Justice Department, it should have been asking the president 743 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 10: after those Seditious six came on came on with that video, 744 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 10: they should have been asking the president should should they 745 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 10: be arrested or not? Because if that's not betrayal to 746 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,360 Speaker 10: this country, I'm not sure what it is. They should 747 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:52,920 Speaker 10: be arrested. 748 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 2: They should be in particularly we have troops in the field, 749 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 2: you have you have fifteen twelve or fifteen thousand sailors 750 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 2: and marines off the coast of Venezuela. I want to 751 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,799 Speaker 2: carry strike group and the other amphibruarty group you've got. 752 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,280 Speaker 1: People got to make decisions. No and Pollard. 753 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,600 Speaker 2: The question of Pollard is not always you've been charging, 754 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 2: not you got thirty years in prison. The question whether 755 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,320 Speaker 2: they should have gotten the death penalty or not. Israel 756 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 2: I tell you we don't have an alliance with the 757 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,879 Speaker 2: is is this was you take a ten by six 758 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 2: room and you could fill it with what Pollard gave 759 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 2: them from money. By the way, we'll get into the 760 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 2: polar anymore. And it's outrageous. Brian, you're once again the 761 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,240 Speaker 2: sage here. Where do people go to get your content? 762 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:29,480 Speaker 3: Serve? 763 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:30,720 Speaker 1: What are your coordinates? 764 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 10: Thank you, Steve, Brian T. Kennedy one on X Brian T. 765 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:40,879 Speaker 10: Kennedy on Getter and Present Danger China dot org, where 766 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,279 Speaker 10: the Committee on the Present Danger China does a lot 767 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 10: of very important work. We have a webinar starting at 768 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 10: one o'clock to discuss many of the things the CCP 769 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 10: is up to today. 770 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 2: Always dark, the CCP, the existential threat to the Chinese 771 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,719 Speaker 2: people Labaijing and the American people. 772 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 1: Brian Kennedy, thank you. Good luck when you're a seminar, 773 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 1: you're welky. Steve, thanks Mike Lindell. 774 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 2: By the way, so Charlie kirkwan tossed to the Charlie 775 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:13,319 Speaker 2: kirk team at noon posts. So after that, Pasobic made 776 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 2: a quick trip out. He did the Megan Kelly Show. 777 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 2: I guess in Bakersfield, California last night. I think he's 778 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:24,759 Speaker 2: back already, took a red eye back. Steve is gonna 779 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,239 Speaker 2: follow that. Eric's gonna follow that, and then back to 780 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 2: U as you've got Gruber, Bowling and Bannon back here. 781 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 2: Five o'clock show's gonna be lit because you know why, 782 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 2: we're gonna jam everything we didn't get to this morning. 783 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,719 Speaker 2: Plus we had other stuff this afternoon to also roll 784 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,680 Speaker 2: in to tomorrow morning. So going to make sure everybody's 785 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:43,319 Speaker 2: back here at five pm Eastern Standard time, we'll I'll 786 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,359 Speaker 2: be standing watch. Mike Lindell. This has been a hard 787 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 2: one today, folk, Mike, very tough one. Give us a deal, 788 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:51,759 Speaker 2: get us focused on your deals. 789 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 9: Absolutely, you guys, and by the way, you guys said 790 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 9: this time of year all I don't know if everybody 791 00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,839 Speaker 9: knows this, but everybody raises their shipping price. Is all 792 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 9: the shippers do out they ship all of our products 793 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 9: and they're already high enough. And this will be this 794 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 9: will start on Monday, but we're gonna do with My Pillow, 795 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 9: we're gonna keep giving you these Early Black Friday specials 796 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:18,320 Speaker 9: through the weekend with free shipping. You get free shipping 797 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,680 Speaker 9: no matter what you order from My Pillow today. This 798 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 9: the Early Black Friday Special. The one you have all 799 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,880 Speaker 9: hit very hard is the my slippers, normally one for 800 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 9: the best slippers ever made with Impact Gel fifty nine 801 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 9: ninety eight. We take another twenty dollars off for the 802 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 9: warm room thirty nine to ninety eight a pair, and 803 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,840 Speaker 9: you get a free a pre bottle of leather spray 804 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,399 Speaker 9: with that and the free shipping. Also, remember we're doing 805 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 9: the other Early Black Friday special, which is all of 806 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,319 Speaker 9: our blankets that came in last week. 807 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 8: You guys are loving them. I'm getting great reviews. 808 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,839 Speaker 9: Five different kinds of blankets from throw blankets to your bed. 809 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 8: All the sizes are in all the colors. 810 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,920 Speaker 9: And we also have Duvets pillow shams for your pillows. 811 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 9: They're normally sixty nine ninety eight for the warm room 812 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:08,879 Speaker 9: Polsse twelve eighty eight a set, So you go all 813 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,759 Speaker 9: your shopping there and get the jumpiters. Go to my 814 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,280 Speaker 9: pillow dot com forward slash war room. There's that big 815 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,880 Speaker 9: free shipping sign. You guys, get it today on anything 816 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,799 Speaker 9: you order. All of our pillows we put print just 817 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,799 Speaker 9: for the warm room posset. We added that to their 818 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 9: early Black Friday special. And then I want to bring 819 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,800 Speaker 9: up the other one of the five Bible pillows, you guys. 820 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,400 Speaker 9: This is five gifts in one the go Anywhere pillows 821 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,760 Speaker 9: with the Bible stories and pictures for your grandkids, your children. 822 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,239 Speaker 9: Those you get for twenty nine ninety eight for the 823 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,280 Speaker 9: set of six are set of five with free shipping. 824 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,480 Speaker 1: And I want to tell you this, we just got in. 825 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:48,239 Speaker 8: If you guys have. 826 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,880 Speaker 9: Been waiting on the keys, the dream sheets, you were 827 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 9: waiting on your size, they just came in two days ago, 828 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,600 Speaker 9: you guys, So take advantage of that free shipping on 829 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 9: that and get those before they're gone. 830 00:47:58,680 --> 00:47:59,800 Speaker 8: They go very fast. 831 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,800 Speaker 9: Flag Ship the best Sheep's ever eight hundred and eighty 832 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,200 Speaker 9: seven three one zero six. To talk to one of 833 00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,799 Speaker 9: my home repues that promo code Warroom for free shipping thing. 834 00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,240 Speaker 1: Thank you, sir, I appreciate you. See at five o'clock 835 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:19,240 Speaker 1: Billy Joe Shaver with a classic. 836 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 2: Get the behind me Satan, think about it. See back 837 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:27,200 Speaker 2: here at five. 838 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:34,160 Speaker 4: Jesus Christ nazare fifty reason. 839 00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 1: I command him, the Lord Jesus Christ. 840 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:49,319 Speaker 2: The moon stars were hidden about as round that clouded around, 841 00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,920 Speaker 2: and I could see my loved ones weeping. 842 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:58,279 Speaker 8: Has he loaded me? No one, We're spoken on me