1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: Terrence Bates. Another busy day is on tap on Capitol 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: Hill in Washington after Thursday was highlighted by tense hearings 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: and some high profile visits. Among the highest profile visitors 5 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: were Elon Muskin vi Vek Ramaswami, who are both on 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: the Hill explaining their plan to cut two trillion dollars 7 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 1: in spending as part of the newly formed Department of 8 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: Government Efficiency. The duo met with both House and Senate 9 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: Republicans on Thursday, with some lawmakers reportedly leaving that meeting 10 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: skeptical about the billionaire's ability to get massive spending cuts 11 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: through Congress. Georgia Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green, however, looking forward 12 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: to DOJE dealing with the national debt. 13 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 2: Biggest concern is our debt and as a country, doesn't 14 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: matter where you fall on the political divide. This debt 15 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: is going to crush every single one of us. And 16 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: to quote Elon, he said something extremely important. Every single 17 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: payment that the federal government pays out, we need to 18 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 2: be checking those payment to see if they're legitimate. 19 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: Another headline coming out of Capitol Hill Thursdays, the acting 20 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: Director of the Secret Service, once again admitting that his 21 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: agency failed in its mission to keep now President elect 22 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: Donald Trump safe from assassination attempts. Ronald Rowe also claims 23 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: that he has overhauled the agency security practices following the 24 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: July attack on President Trump's life. That, of course, was 25 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: his testimony before a House task force of seven Republicans 26 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: and six Democrats who are investigating two failed assassination attempts 27 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: on the soon to be forty seventh president. 28 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 3: But this particular. 29 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: Interaction we're getting ready to show you over Roe's appearance 30 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: at this year's nine to eleven commemoration, attended by President 31 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: Trump and Biden, as well as Vice President. 32 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 3: Harris, is what everyone is talking about. 33 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 4: I actually responded to Ground Zero. I was there going 34 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 4: through the ashes of the World Trade Center. I was 35 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 4: there at Fresh Kills. I'm not asking you that. 36 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: The sho to show respect. 37 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 2: Die. 38 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 3: I do not know that you're trying to be do 39 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 3: not in vote nine. 40 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 4: Eleven for political purposes? Oh I'm not. 41 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 5: I'm invoting this war, sir. 42 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 4: To ask him. Don't only mean. 43 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: As for the assassination attempts against President Trump. Rose says 44 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: there will be accountability. In fact, he claims that accountability 45 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: is already occurring, but he's not being specific about what 46 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: kind of penalties those involved are or will face. House 47 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: Democrats successfully force a vote on releasing the infamous House 48 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: Ethics Committee should report on former Florida Congressman Matt Gates. 49 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: House Republicans, on the other hand, shot down the idea 50 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: Thursday before a final vote. Instead, the lawmakers voted to 51 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 1: refer the resolution to the relevant committee. It's highly unlikely 52 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: that a GOP led committee would take up the measure meeting, 53 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: it's essentially defeated. The long story short, the ethics report 54 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: surrounding Gates likely will never see the light of day. 55 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: You may remember, Gates resigned his Congressional seat before the 56 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: document was set to be released. Congressional leaders then decided 57 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: not to release the report, saying they no longer have 58 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: jurisdiction because Gates isn't a congressman anymore. 59 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 3: He stepped down in order to. 60 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,119 Speaker 1: Pursue his nomination for President Trump's attorney general, and eventually 61 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: withdrew his name from consideration over concerns. 62 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 3: About that ethics report. 63 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: Popular social media app TikTok's Days on Your kid's phones 64 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: and computers may be numbered. 65 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 3: Just in this morning, a. 66 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: Federal appeals court ruled to uphold a law that will 67 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: force the social media networks Chinese parent company to divest 68 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: or face a band here in the United States. The 69 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: ruling is the latest setback for the popular video sharing app. 70 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: Back in April, Congress approved a foreign assistance package that 71 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: includes provisions giving TikTok until the beginning of the year 72 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: to sever ties with parent company Byte Dance, or lose 73 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: access to act stores and web hosting so Servis is 74 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: here in the US. All of this is supposed to 75 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: take effect on January nineteenth, with the possibility of a 76 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: ninety day delay being granted by the President if a 77 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: sail is in progress. Lawmakers and national security officials passed 78 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: that law over concerns over China using the TikTok app 79 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: to spy on and collect data on about one hundred 80 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: and seventy million Americans who currently use the social media app. 81 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,799 Speaker 1: The jury deliberating the fate of the former marine charged 82 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: in the deadly chokehold death of a homeless man on 83 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: a New York subway is deadlocked right now. 84 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 3: The judge just sent them back into. 85 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: Deliberations, though after they send a note a little while 86 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: ago saying they can't reach a unanimous verdict on the 87 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: manslaughter charge. The twenty four year old is accused of 88 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: manslaughter as well as criminally negligent homicide. He's pleaded not 89 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: guilty to both charges. That's a quick check of your headlines. 90 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: I'm Terrence Bates. Now back to your regularly scheduled programming. 91 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 5: Welcome back, everybody. 92 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 6: Email us as always Freedom at Charlie Kirk dot com 93 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 6: and subscribe to our podcast. Very interesting guest here joining 94 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 6: us now is Tracy Thurman and also Roger Verer, who 95 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 6: will not be talking, which is very interesting. 96 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 5: Tracy and Roger are with us. 97 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 6: This is all in the context of President Trump appointing 98 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 6: front of the show and friend of mine, really great 99 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 6: American David Sachs as Ai. 100 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 5: And cryptos are. 101 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 6: For those that do know don't know Roger, you can 102 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 6: check out his website at free Roger noow dot com. 103 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 6: It's free rogernow dot com. I'm sorry dot org, Free 104 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 6: rogernow dot org. Andrew, can you help introduce this before 105 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 6: we throw it to Tracy and Roger? 106 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, so, Roger ver and they'll have a chance to 107 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 7: tell the whole story. Is one of the pioneers of 108 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 7: the crypto space, one of the earliest investors in bitcoin 109 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 7: then came out with bitcoin cash. Really a pioneer in 110 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 7: a space that is going to define the future in a. 111 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:09,239 Speaker 5: Lot of ways. 112 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 7: And so he's and so I think he's a national treasure. 113 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 7: There's some controversy obviously surrounding his backstory, but a lot 114 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 7: of people feel rogers getting unfairly targeted. He's under investigation, 115 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 7: they're trying to extradite him from Spain. 116 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 5: I believe he can clarify me. 117 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 7: If if I'm wrong, or Tracy can, but essentially the 118 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 7: IRS has been on him. He's got a long history 119 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 7: of saying, you know, please pay all my taxes. Lawyers 120 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 7: and accountants had to flee the country, and so it's 121 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 7: it's a cautionary tale about when our government gets really aggressive. 122 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 7: The I r s specifically, and so I'm excited to 123 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 7: get into the detail. 124 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 6: Let's see if they can win me over to advocate 125 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 6: him for a parton there we go. All right, with 126 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 6: all that build up, we have Tracy Thurman and Roder revered. 127 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 6: Welcome Tracy, walk us through all of this here and 128 00:06:58,600 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 6: Thanks for taking the. 129 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 8: Time, Charlie and Andrew. It's such a pleasure to join 130 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 8: you guys. Yes, I'm here with Roger, my friend, who 131 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 8: is facing one hundred and nine years in prison for 132 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 8: attempting to pay his taxes properly. As you can see, 133 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 8: he cannot speak today. Anything he says canon will be 134 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 8: used against him, and it's just simply too big a 135 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 8: risk that the IRS will use anything that comes out 136 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 8: of his mouth, that boj will use anything that comes 137 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 8: out of his mouth against him. 138 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 4: So I'm here. 139 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 8: Today and I want to tell you I want to 140 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 8: answer your questions in the way that I believe Roger 141 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 8: would answer them if he could speak freely today. 142 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 5: Okay, Well walk us through the history here. 143 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 6: So yeah, sorry, I know that you guys were overseas. 144 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 6: Who is Roger, what is he accused of? And is 145 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 6: there political bias against him because of his let's just 146 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 6: say his passion for cryptocurrency. 147 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 8: Yes, there's absolutely a bias against Roger. This really goes 148 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 8: back on twenty four years when Roger faced charges after 149 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 8: he criticized the IRS and the the ATF, and he 150 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 8: criticized the ATF for what they had done in Waco, Texas, 151 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 8: and the ATF became obsessed with targeting him personally, and 152 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 8: so they played, you know, the game of you know, 153 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 8: finally the man, I'll show you the crime. And he 154 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 8: faced charges for selling fireworks on eBay, a thing which 155 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 8: hundreds of people were doing Caabella's catalog was selling them, 156 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 8: and yet they chose to go after one man, and 157 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 8: one man only at that time for selling these and 158 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 8: that was that was Roger. So he actually served time 159 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 8: in federal prison for that, again at a time when 160 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 8: nobody else selling these was being bothered at all. And 161 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 8: then so when he got out of prison, it was 162 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 8: clear to him that he was a target of the 163 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 8: US government. The ATF, by the way, and a meeting 164 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 8: with his attorneys and and with a prosecutor went as 165 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 8: far as to say, when you know, when the when 166 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 8: the prosecutor was saying, you know, maybe we should just 167 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 8: give him a fine, just tell him to go go 168 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 8: get a license to sell these things, said but you 169 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 8: didn't hear what he said about us. So this was 170 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 8: clearly a motivated a case motivated by hatred for what 171 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 8: he had said about them. So the minute that Roger 172 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 8: could leave this country, he did, and in two thousand 173 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 8: and six, he moved to Japan, and as soon as 174 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 8: he could, he gave up his US citizenship and got 175 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 8: citizenship in Saint Kitts and Nevis because he needed somewhere 176 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 8: else to belong and did not feel safe being an 177 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 8: American any longer, which as an American is horrible to me. Right, 178 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 8: we should be proud of our country. We should keep 179 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 8: our best and our brightest. We shouldn't be chasing them out, 180 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 8: And so at that time he had to. When you 181 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 8: announce your US citizenship, there's something called the exit tax, 182 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 8: which is this unconstitutional tax that you have to pay 183 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 8: upon leaving if you're worth over two million dollars. And 184 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 8: Roger did his utmost to fully comply with that. There's 185 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 8: a motion to dismiss that you can find on free 186 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 8: rogernow dot org which lays it all out and shows that, 187 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 8: beyond a shadow of a doubt that he did everything 188 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 8: he possibly could comply. And yet the US government has 189 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 8: been going scorched earth against him since that time, attempting 190 00:09:58,840 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 8: to take him down. 191 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 4: And why are they doing that? 192 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 8: Well, Roger has been one of the biggest critics of 193 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 8: the US government's you know, many of their programs. He 194 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 8: has been funding the anti war movement, he's been funding 195 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 8: the anti lockdown movement, he's been funding the medical freedom movement, 196 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 8: he's been funding the anti censorship movement. And he's been 197 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 8: one of the biggest voices behind crypto, behind decentralized finance, 198 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 8: behind permissionless peer to peer. 199 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 4: Exchange of value. 200 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 8: And that is a threat to the deep state, and 201 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 8: that's why they're after Roger. 202 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 5: You know, this is a pattern. 203 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 6: We saw a similar type of law fair against ross 204 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 6: Albricht who definitely did some things wrong but does not believe, 205 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 6: you know, deserve two life sentences for that for similar 206 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 6: type of cryptocurrency related pioneering, Tracy, can you explain that 207 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 6: a little bit more that people that get into cryptography, 208 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 6: that get into some of these alternative ways of disrupting 209 00:10:55,520 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 6: are the antiquated currency model and in new technology seem 210 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 6: to be recipients very forcefully from the federal government and 211 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 6: the traditional banking system. 212 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 8: There is no greater threat to the traditional banking system 213 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 8: then permissionless peer to peer, decentralized exchange between individuals, there's 214 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 8: simply no greater threat. And so if you're a person 215 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 8: who supports that, if you're a person who pioneers that. 216 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 8: If you are one of the people who enables that, 217 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 8: you have a target on your back. There's absolutely no question. 218 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 8: And few people did that more than Roger did. He 219 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 8: was the earliest investor in cryptocurrency in the cryptocurrency space, 220 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 8: the earliest investor in bitcoin, promoted it at a level 221 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 8: that nobody else did. You know, early on he'd go 222 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 8: into a coffee shop and you know, get coffee and 223 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 8: then offer to pay in bitcoin, or he would just 224 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 8: walk up to people on the street and say, hey, 225 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 8: let me help you set up a bitcoin wallet. 226 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 4: Let me tell you how bitcoin works. We help you 227 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 4: with this. 228 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 8: And of course the people who accepted that from him 229 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 8: have done very well for themselves if you started taking 230 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 8: you know, if you got ten dollars worth of bitcoin 231 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 8: from Roger when it was two to three dollars a bitcoin, 232 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 8: you've done very well. 233 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 4: And this is why they hate him, because. 234 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 8: If you are a central banker, nothing terrifies you more 235 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 8: than people being outside your control, outside the control of 236 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 8: the FED, outside of the control of the coming CBDC 237 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 8: system in world, where people are being debanked, where people 238 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 8: are being deprogrammed, where people are being censored. The most 239 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 8: powerful thing we have is permissionless finance. It's bitcoin, it's 240 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 8: bitcoin cash, it's all of these cryptocurrencies, and so anybody 241 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 8: who has promoted these and has promoted them to the 242 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 8: world is a massive threat. 243 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 7: Andrew, you have a follow up here, Well, yeah, I mean, 244 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 7: I'm just looking at this Tracy and seeing the way 245 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 7: that the world has shifted. I mean, obviously renumber back 246 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 7: to President Trump speaking at the Libertarian Conference. One of 247 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 7: the biggest applause lines that he got was when he said, 248 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 7: We're going to set up a bitcoin reserve at the 249 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 7: federal government. He was going to create a hub here 250 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 7: in the United States to become a hub of innovation 251 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:05,839 Speaker 7: pioneering when it came to blockchain and crypto, and so 252 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,599 Speaker 7: it feels almost like, you know, you were caught in 253 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 7: a moment of time when this technology was so new 254 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 7: and it was this emergent threat, and they thought that 255 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 7: they could stomp out one of the innovators behind that. 256 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 7: But it has grown so tremendously in the years that 257 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 7: have followed. Are you guys watching this from abroad and 258 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 7: seeing the changing climate and you have to be feeling 259 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 7: somewhat optimistic about the future is shaping up. 260 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 8: It's beautiful to see the way that crypto is being 261 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 8: embraced by more and more people. And honestly, I think 262 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 8: that's due in many in large part to the law 263 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 8: fare that so many people in the incoming administration have 264 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:51,119 Speaker 8: personally faced. Look at what Donald Trump has faced himself. 265 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 8: Look at the evaluation of marl Lago case, look at 266 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 8: the New York cases, look at the DC cases. All 267 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 8: of them are just outrageous, clear targeting of a man 268 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 8: that the Deep State does not like, and anyone who 269 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 8: has been through that. 270 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 3: We know Millennia is debanked. 271 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 8: After the election in twenty twenty, she revealed that that 272 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 8: she was either she impossibly even Barren were denied bank 273 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 8: accounts at that time, and their banks were their bank 274 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 8: accounts were closed. And so people in this administration have 275 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 8: a sensitivity to this and an awareness of this issue 276 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 8: that has never been present in the executive branch before. 277 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 8: And that's very exciting for those of us who are 278 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 8: fighting this tyranny because we feel like, maybe for the 279 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 8: very first time, we have people in a decision making 280 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 8: role who will understand and appreciate this problem and maybe, 281 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 8: we truly hope, will step up and not just pardon 282 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 8: Ross on day one, but pardon Roger as well, or 283 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 8: possibly the incoming DOJ will recognize what an atrocious case 284 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 8: this is and dismiss the charges entirely. 285 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 6: Stay right there, I'm becoming a believer. 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Go to roughgreens dot com and use promo codekirk. 301 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 6: That's Roughgreens dot Com promo codekirk. We'll be right back 302 00:15:50,600 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 6: to everybody. 303 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm 304 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: Terrence Bates. The jury deliberating the fate of the former 305 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: marine charged in the deadly choke hold death of a 306 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: homeless man on a New York subway is deadlocked. The 307 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: judge just sent them back into deliberations after they sent 308 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: a note earlier saying that they can't reach a unanimous 309 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: verdict on the manslaughter charge. The twenty four year old 310 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: is accused of manslaughter as well as criminally negligent homicide. 311 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: He is pleaded not guilty to both charges. There's no 312 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: word if the judge actually the judge just send them 313 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: back in to deliberate. Sorry for that second charge, But 314 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: there's no word when he will send them back in 315 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: to deliberate over the second charge of criminally negligent homicide. Meantime, 316 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: the civil suit was filed on Thursday, even before the 317 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: criminal case is decided. The case is being brought in 318 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: the New York Supreme Court and accuses the former marine 319 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: of negligence along with assault, and battery in the twenty 320 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: twenty three choke hold death. The court filing says the 321 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: suit is seeking damages quote some which exceed the jurisdictional 322 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,719 Speaker 1: limits of all lower courts which would otherwise have jurisdiction 323 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: here well. Of course, continue to monitor the outcome of 324 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: that particular trial. We'll let you know when a verdict 325 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: is turned in. For now, let's get you back to 326 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: the Charlie Kirkshow. 327 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 6: Welcome back, ever an email us as always freedom at 328 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 6: Charlie Kirk dot com and subscribe to our podcast. Tracy 329 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 6: Thurman and Roger Vere Roger Vere otherwise known as Bitcoin Jesus. 330 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 6: It is free rogerow dot com dot org. I'm sorry, 331 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 6: both work. Actually, thank you. I typed in dot com. 332 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 5: I don't know. I'm sorry. 333 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 6: Free Roger rout, free Roger now dot org. So, so, Tracy, 334 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 6: I want to ask here so the president could unilaterally 335 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 6: pardon Roger or get these cases to be reassigned. 336 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 5: And again just remind our audience what. 337 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 6: Exactly is the accusation here that he didn't pay his taxes? 338 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 5: It sounds bizarre. 339 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 8: Yeah, the accusation is tax evasion, and it's as soon 340 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 8: as you start to look into it, you realize it's 341 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 8: betterly ludicrous. He's accused of not paying enough on the 342 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 8: exit taxes in twenty fourteen, and then he's accused of. 343 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 4: Not paying enough in twenty seventeen. 344 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 8: In twenty seventeen, it's bizarre, right because by that point 345 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 8: he wasn't a US citizen, So why on earth would 346 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 8: he need to have needed to have paid those taxes. 347 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 8: And in twenty fourteen it gets a little complicated. But 348 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 8: to break it down really quickly, when you exit the country, 349 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 8: and you exit, you know, you get up your citizenship, 350 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 8: you have to do something called a constructive hypothetical sale, 351 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 8: which is that you pretend you sell everything you own 352 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 8: in one day the day before you leave. And the 353 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 8: reality was that Roger owned such a huge percentage of 354 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 8: the bitcoins in the world at that time that if 355 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 8: he had tried to sell them, the trading volume with 356 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 8: I think ten million dollars and so anything you sold 357 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 8: over ten million dollars was utterly worthless. And so if 358 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 8: the government's rule is if you sold everything in one day, 359 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 8: how much it would be worth, the answer is anything 360 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 8: over the global market cap for that, you know, for 361 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 8: that asset, is worth nothing. If everybody in the entire 362 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 8: US decided to sell their house tomorrow. 363 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 4: Would you get Zillo value. I think all of us 364 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 4: know the answer to that question. 365 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 8: So they essentially want Zillo value for everybody's home if 366 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 8: everybody's sold on the same day, that's what they're asking 367 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 8: for out of Roger. 368 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 4: So it makes no sense. But what it came down 369 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 4: to is that Roger. 370 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 8: Consulted the best of tax accountants, the best lawyers in 371 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 8: the entire country, hired the best possible team, and he 372 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 8: told them, look, I know the IRS doesn't like me. 373 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 8: I know I'm going to be audited. I know they 374 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 8: will attempt to come after me. I need you to 375 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 8: do this perfectly. I need there to be no mistakes. 376 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 8: I need every tea cross, I need every I dotted. 377 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 8: And that's all in the emails that he sent you 378 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 8: to the accountant. So we know that he wanted perfect compliance. 379 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 8: And how do we know that we you know that 380 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 8: because in twenty seventeen, they rated his attorney's office. Armed 381 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 8: federal agents, raided his attorneys, interrogated his attorneys, seized dreams 382 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 8: of documents from his attorneys, and attempted to use them 383 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 8: against Roger and This should terrify every American because they're 384 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 8: attempting to destroy attorney client privilege. 385 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 4: Using this case. 386 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 8: If what you say to your attorney is no longer private, 387 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 8: what chance do you have? 388 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 4: What chance do I have? 389 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 8: So this case is horror should be horrifying to every 390 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 8: American because it's about destroying your attorney client privilege, and 391 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 8: it's about destroying your your right to rely on your accountant? 392 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 8: Are your right to rely on your attorney when it 393 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 8: comes to the US tax Code that seventy thousand pages 394 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 8: of which none of us can possibly memorize. And so 395 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 8: if they do this to Roger, they're coming for the 396 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 8: rest of us next. 397 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 4: It's terrifying. 398 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 8: But yes, the President can unilaterally decide to pardon Roger. 399 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 8: The incoming DOJ could decide to drop the charge, And 400 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 8: we fervently hope that one of those two things will happen. 401 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 8: Because this lawfair needs to end. The incoming government needs 402 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,719 Speaker 8: to say we've been the victims of lawfair. We need 403 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 8: to look at everyone else's been a victim of law fair, 404 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 8: and this needs to stop. Otherwise our country has no chance. 405 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 8: We as Americans have no shot unless this stops, and 406 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 8: it stops now. 407 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 6: I totally agree, and you have kissed me so you 408 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 6: could add me to whatever list you want. We're going 409 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 6: to send out a tweet trying to say that we 410 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 6: want to see President Trump, you know, get rid of 411 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 6: the lawfair here as he was once victim of one. Yeah, 412 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 6: I mean, a pardon, lifting of charges, whatever it takes. 413 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 5: It's time for a clean slate and the free Roger. 414 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 7: Well, and to that point, charl I mean, Roger, I 415 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 7: know you can't talk right now because what you say 416 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 7: could be used against you. 417 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 5: Got a great poker. 418 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I applaud you for showing up nonetheless, 419 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 7: and I would just say, it's a country that is 420 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 7: now poised to become the center of the crypto universe. 421 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 5: You know, we're gon we're gonna need a lot of things. 422 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 7: We're going to need more energy, We're gonna need more power, 423 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 7: We're going to need more data centers. 424 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 5: We're going to need more innovators. 425 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 7: And we want to be a hub that invites and 426 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 7: welcomes and celebrates our pioneers and our innovators instead of 427 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 7: harassing them and driving them away. And to the extent 428 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 7: that Charlie and I and the show could be a 429 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 7: platform and a voice for that, I think we're happy 430 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 7: to do it. 431 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 6: So very very convincing. Tracy, thank you. You won me 432 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 6: over and for whatever that's worth, we'll be pushing any. 433 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 5: Way we can. 434 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 6: Thank you guys so much. Hope to meet you as 435 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 6: a free citizen. Roger, thank you. 436 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 8: We can't wait till Roger can come back on and 437 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 8: trust me, the minute he can talk, he would love 438 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 8: to come back on and talk with you guys again. 439 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 8: So again, everyone, please sign the open letter at free 440 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 8: rogernow dot org requesting a pardon from the incoming president 441 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 8: and Charlie Andrew thank you so much. 442 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 4: For supporting this. 443 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 8: You have no idea what it means to us. 444 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 6: We are one hundred percent behind it. You want us over, 445 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 6: Thank you, Thanks Tracy. 446 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 5: Email us Freedom. 447 00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 6: At Charliekirk dot com and subscribe to our podcast. Get 448 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 6: your tickets to americafestamfest dot com, am fbst dot com. 449 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 9: Be right back, Terrence Bates here with your real America's 450 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 9: Voice news break. 451 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 3: Thanks so much for being here with us. 452 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 1: We're continuing to monitor a developing story out of New York, 453 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: where verdict in the case of a former marine charged 454 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: in the chokehold death of a homeless man on a 455 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 1: New York subway could come as soon as today. The 456 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 1: jury deliberating that case is deadlocked, but the judge just 457 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: sent them back into deliberations after they sent a note 458 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: just a little while ago saying they can't reach a 459 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: unanimous verdict on the manslaughter charge. 460 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 3: The twenty four year old is. 461 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: Accused of manslaughter and criminally negligent homicide. He is pleaded 462 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: not guilty to both charges. In the meantime, a civil 463 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: suit was filed on Thursday, even before the criminal case 464 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: is decided. 465 00:23:58,119 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 3: That case is being brought in the New. 466 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: York's Sureme Court, and it accuses the former Marine of 467 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: negligence along with assault and battery in the twenty twenty 468 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: three choke hold death. The court filing says the suit 469 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: is seeking damages quote in the sum which exceed the 470 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: jurisdictional limits of all lower courts which would otherwise have jurisdiction. 471 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: Popular social media app TikTok's days on your kids phones 472 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: and computers may be numbered. Just in this morning, a 473 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 1: federal appeals court ruled to uphold a law that would 474 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: force the social media network's Chinese parent company to divest 475 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 1: or face a band here in the United States. The 476 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 1: ruling is the latest setback for the popular video sharing app. 477 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 1: Back in April, Congress approved a foreign assistance package that 478 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: includes provisions giving TikTok until the beginning of the year 479 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: to sever ties with parent company Byteedance, or lose access 480 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: to app stores and web hosting services here in the 481 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: United States. All of this is supposed to take effect 482 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: on January nineteenth, with the possibility of a ninety day 483 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: delay being granted by the President if a sale is 484 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: in progress. Lawmakers and national security officials passed the law 485 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: over concerns over China using the TikTok app to spy 486 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 1: on and collect data on about one hundred and seventy 487 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: million Americans who currently use the social media app well. 488 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 3: Another busy day. 489 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: Is on tap on Capitol Hill in Washington after Thursday 490 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: was highlighted by tense hearings and some high profile visits. 491 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: Among the highest profile visitors were Elon Musk and the Vekramaswami, 492 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: who were on Capitol Hill explaining their plan to cut 493 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: two trillion dollars in spending as part of the newly 494 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 1: formed Department of Government Efficiency. The duo met with both 495 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: House and Senate Republicans Thursday, with some lawmakers reportedly leaving 496 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 1: the meeting skeptical about the billionaire's ability to get massive 497 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: spending cuts through Congress. 498 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 3: That's a quick check of your how sterios making sense 499 00:25:58,720 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 3: of the insane. 500 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 5: You're listening to the Charlie Kirk Show. Okay, everybody, welcome back. 501 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 6: Email us as always freedom at Charliekirk dot com and 502 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 6: subscribe to our podcast. 503 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 5: Patriot Mobile right yep. 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First, Ryan, 528 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 6: your opinion on the current status of Hegseth and what 529 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 6: is going on right now with Donald Trump's cabinet appointees. 530 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 10: You know, I think that Pete is probably the only 531 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 10: one who's on the cusp. I think that I think 532 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 10: the pressure campaign against Tony Ernest may be effective, but 533 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 10: he is the one that I think is probably the 534 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 10: most problematic. 535 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 4: Maybe cash hotels and have a little bit of tough time. 536 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 10: RFK Junior has to answer for a lot of questions 537 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 10: for every thing that RF K. Junior said that it 538 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 10: makes a lot of sense. He has said some things 539 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 10: that are very very strange. I think the rest of them, 540 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 10: honestly though, are pretty good, and aside from Petal, the 541 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 10: other ones are more likely than not. 542 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 6: So what do you have to make about some of 543 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 6: the Senate Republicans that are fighting, hag said, despite being. 544 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 5: From very deep red states. 545 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 10: I you know, listen, I think that as point of 546 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 10: a Senate confirmation is to ask tough questions. 547 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,199 Speaker 4: I think that is I think it's very important to 548 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 4: do that. 549 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 10: Had Republicans asked tough questions, Harriet Meyer would have been 550 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 10: on the Supreme Court. So it's not a bad thing 551 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,239 Speaker 10: to ask him tough questions and to sit there and 552 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 10: have your own conscious of your vote. But the point 553 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 10: of a cabin secretary is not that they are confirming, 554 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 10: you know, their own cabinet secretary to believe their ideas 555 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 10: and their policies. 556 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 4: It's to say are you qualified for the job? 557 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 10: And then it's Donald Trump's decision, just like it was Obama's, 558 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 10: just like it was Joe Biden's, just like it was 559 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:54,239 Speaker 10: you know, George W. 560 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 4: Bush's. So the litmus test shouldn't be. 561 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 10: Does this person have my shared idea, it's can this 562 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 10: person do the job? Which is a very very important, 563 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 10: you know question, and you know it will raises some 564 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 10: concerns over some other nominees. 565 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 4: But I don't think that. 566 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 10: That's what they're They're they're questioning Pete over. I don't 567 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 10: think the question of repeat is whether or not he 568 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 10: can do the job. I think a lot of it 569 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 10: is a lot of uh, you know, questions into his 570 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 10: person to personal life that have really nothing to do 571 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:28,479 Speaker 10: with the position. And the blackmail and and the smear 572 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 10: campaign is really to embarrass him more than to ask 573 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 10: if he's qualified. 574 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 6: So so Ryan shifting gears here. You have a very 575 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 6: interesting news story, Andrew, why don't you tee it up here? 576 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 5: Yeah? 577 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 7: Well, hey, hey Ryan, I don't know if they even 578 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 7: began yet, so you didn't know I was here, How 579 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 7: are you, sir? 580 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? 581 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 7: I mean we were talking about that as we're prepping 582 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 7: for this and you you just actually on your National 583 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 7: Populist newsletter. 584 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 5: It's your substack. 585 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 7: Everybody check it out at nappop dot substack dot com. 586 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 7: You have a new piece out here, and you know, 587 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 7: I found it extraordinarily fascinating. You actually been diving into 588 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 7: birth rates, and you mentioned that there was a little 589 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 7: bit of an upturn, a little bit of a mini 590 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 7: baby boom. 591 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 5: In the last year. What did you what did you 592 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 5: find there? 593 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 4: Ryan? 594 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 5: Right? 595 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 10: So the CDC post monthly updates is on CDC Wonder 596 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 10: and that's Centers for Disease Control obviously. And the birth 597 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 10: rate of the United States went up slightly this year 598 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 10: by half of a percentage, which is a decent amount 599 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 10: for a single year. But it didn't come from Americans. 600 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 10: It came from people mothers who were not born in America. 601 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 10: One in four people, one in four births in twenty 602 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 10: twenty four were by women who were not from America. Particularly, 603 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 10: a large increase came from people on the ncch what 604 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 10: is it NCCHV parole program that Joe Biden did so 605 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 10: as people from Nicaragua, Haiti, Cuba, and Venezuela. Venezuelans specifically 606 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 10: have a fifty five percent higher birth rate than they. 607 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 4: Were last year. 608 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 10: Part of that is because there's more of them, but 609 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 10: part of it is because they're on this two year 610 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 10: program that Joe Biden made up on his own that 611 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 10: does not give them refugee satus. It just allows them 612 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 10: to apply for asylum while they're here, and then and 613 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 10: then they have to go home if they fail to 614 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 10: get it, well, if you fail to get it, as 615 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 10: most of them probably will because they're probably not legitimate assilees, 616 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 10: what better way to stay in the country than have 617 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 10: an anchor baby and really birthrights citizenship. As Donald Trump 618 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 10: is becoming president and people saw this election a go 619 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 10: either which way, a number of women either came across 620 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 10: the border illegal aliens came across the border pregnant in 621 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 10: their ninth month, or they got pregnant while they were 622 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 10: here for the purpose of delaying any possibility of deportation 623 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 10: or making them much harder to separate families or use 624 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 10: whatever case that was. So, Really the baby boom was 625 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 10: a big part of the baby boom came from our 626 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 10: anchor baby system and our birthright citizenship, which the Supreme Court, 627 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 10: by the way, has never rules that illegal aliens have 628 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 10: the right to birthright citizenship. That has been that's been 629 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 10: the way we've worked it, that's the way we've been 630 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 10: carrying it out. 631 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 4: But the Spring where does never actually rule that illegal aliens. 632 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 3: Have that right. 633 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 6: I want to emphasize that that is so baked into 634 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 6: the consciousness of what we think is we think. 635 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 5: Our law, but it's actually not. How did it originate? 636 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 6: And is it time to bring that up for a 637 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 6: declarative Supreme Court decision? Would we win? I'm not even 638 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 6: sure we'd win with this court, Ryan, because people so 639 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 6: believe that it's a fourteenth Amendment, right, fourteenth minute, that's 640 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 6: the fourteenth By the way, the fourteen minute has some 641 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 6: wonderful parts of it. It also has stuff about like debt ceiling. 642 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 6: It is the most expansive, No, it does. It has 643 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 6: like six or seven clauses that are are not just about. 644 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 7: The abolition of slavery, right, and actually talking about this 645 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 7: when we're discussing this segment. How literally the fourteenth Amendment 646 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 7: is usual. It's a catchall, and it's used for a 647 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 7: myriad of societal ills, for bad judgments up and down 648 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 7: the aisle, and this one, I think, right, maybe you 649 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 7: know the history better than I do, but it basically 650 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 7: it was like eighteen nineties cases. 651 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, it was for an Asian man who he 652 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 10: had statist to be in this country. It was like 653 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 10: a work status of some sort of like a work 654 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 10: permit of some sort, and he had a child was 655 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 10: here and said his child was an American citizen because 656 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 10: he was legally allowed to be here, And that was 657 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 10: why they sat there and said, if you were legally 658 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 10: allowed to be here and your child is here, then 659 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 10: the child is a citizen. 660 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 4: It was never ruled for illegal immigrants. 661 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 10: I think it was Justice Black who wrote something in 662 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 10: an indentation in the nineteen sixties or seventies, and Culture 663 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 10: Conci writes about this in nineteen sixty or seventies that 664 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 10: created the idea that it belonged to everybody, But the 665 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 10: Supreme Court has never ruled on it. 666 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 4: If this court did it, you know, I don't know. 667 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 10: Roberts has been fairly good in immigration, the two that 668 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 10: had not been wonderful or Gorsic and Barrett. 669 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,719 Speaker 4: So I don't know. I really really don't know. 670 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 10: But it does to be decided upon by the courts 671 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 10: because it has been a major factor in birth tourism, 672 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 10: people using our countries law to sit they're come here 673 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 10: and be granted a welfare status because they're through their 674 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 10: child and make it impossible to support them well. 675 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 7: And Ryan, again, you might know this better than I, 676 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 7: but here's the actual language. 677 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 5: This is from the fourteenth Amendment. 678 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 7: It says all persons born or naturalized in the United 679 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 7: States and subjects to the jurisdiction thereof, meaning they're subject 680 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 7: to the jurisdics in the United States are citizens of 681 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 7: the United States and of the state wherein they reside. Now, 682 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 7: this language has been parsed apart, I mean a lot 683 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 7: over the years. And I mean if we go back 684 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 7: to the original the debates within the Senate when the 685 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 7: Fourteenth Amendment was getting codified, what does that tell us? 686 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 7: I mean where senators literally saying like, hey, if you 687 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 7: just drop a baby off on this side of the border, 688 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 7: then obviously it's an American or was subject to the 689 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 7: jurisdiction thereof, meaning something different. 690 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 10: No, of course, they didn't think about illegal immigrants in 691 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 10: you know, eighteen sixty six. This was not even like 692 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 10: part of the conversation. It was for the descendants of slaves, 693 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 10: so that way they couldn't be nine citizenship. And it 694 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 10: made sense in the time. It had nothing to do that. 695 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 10: They weren't even thinking about immigrants. It was literally just 696 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 10: for slaves. And it has just been you know, this 697 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 10: open ended question, and we have lived with it. 698 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 4: But it is time. 699 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 10: I think for the Supreme Court to at least rule 700 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 10: upon it, because I don't think there's a way of 701 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 10: getting an amendment changed through the States at this point 702 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 10: or the federal government. I think only the Court could 703 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 10: do it, and I think that we would probably have 704 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 10: at least four votes off on the Court and it 705 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 10: would just be decided if to one more join them. 706 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 10: But it's very clearly not in the Constitution that anybody 707 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 10: with a plane ticket could be, you know, have their 708 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 10: child be assumption to the United States citizen and therefore 709 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 10: make it very difficult to deport and have every benefit 710 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 10: of the welfare system and the education and everything. No, 711 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 10: this is ridiculous. No one thought this in eighteen sixty six. 712 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:15,959 Speaker 10: There were no planes, and now there is this whole 713 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 10: entire thing. There's a whole, entire economy built around it. 714 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 10: But specifically, when you have a president like Joe Biden 715 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 10: who so flagrantly ignored the letter of the law and 716 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 10: protecting our borders, and so many millions upon millions of 717 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 10: people in this country larger than most states, is the 718 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 10: new population that came in. They're all going to be 719 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,359 Speaker 10: trying to have children because they want to sit there 720 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 10: and have an anchor to protect themselves to be part 721 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 10: of the United States. It's ridiculous and it needs to 722 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 10: be looked at at this point. And it's obviously now 723 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,879 Speaker 10: one in four births are by mothers who were not 724 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:49,840 Speaker 10: born in the country. 725 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,240 Speaker 4: That's huge. 726 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 7: Well and Ryan, I mean, I don't know if you 727 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,840 Speaker 7: saw the news, Charlie, you saw it. The number one 728 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 7: baby boy name now in the UK is Mohammad. 729 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 5: Just happened this week. 730 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,320 Speaker 7: I think it was already the case in like Ireland 731 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 7: as a you know, we're scott over the entire UK. 732 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 10: Yeah, they I think it was England had that a 733 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 10: couple of years ago. 734 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 4: But I mean they have this story at almost every 735 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 4: single year. 736 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 10: I think it's almost clipped because they just changed the 737 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:18,839 Speaker 10: way the spellings are. 738 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 4: They combine all the spellings. It's not right. 739 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 7: They how yeah, yeah, exactly. They requalify how they how 740 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 7: they do it. 741 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 6: But nevertheless, but an executive order would go directly to 742 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 6: the Supreme Court if you want to get a decisive 743 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 6: decision on it. And again there's no there is no 744 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 6: guarantee that we would win the side that we believe 745 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 6: that birthright citizenship went. 746 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 5: There's no guarantee it's just. 747 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 6: It's so baked into what we think is constitutional. And 748 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 6: you're trying to tell me, Ryan, there hasn't been a 749 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 6: Supreme Court decision on this in one hundred years now. 750 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 4: Leg Nope, there hasn't been. 751 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 10: There's never They've never addressed it, they've never talked about it. 752 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 10: There's no answer to that. And it's a major thing. 753 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 10: What are we going away for a third of births 754 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 10: being from non citizens? There is no greater country than 755 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 10: the United States and the entire world. Who wouldn't want 756 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,399 Speaker 10: to try to come here? And if all you need 757 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,720 Speaker 10: is a plane ticket and nine months of being pregnant, 758 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 10: you know, just wait around for thirty days. And that's 759 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,359 Speaker 10: why places like in Los Angeles and Miami and in 760 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 10: New York, that's what they're all doing. I mean in 761 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 10: New York at the original hotel, there was entire well, 762 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 10: there was a ton of nine month pregnant women getting 763 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 10: in there knowing that Joe Biden was going to deport 764 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,280 Speaker 10: them and that they weren't going to have an avenue 765 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,720 Speaker 10: towards citizenship when their child sponsored. 766 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:32,919 Speaker 4: Them one day. 767 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 10: It is a it is American people are being hoodwinked 768 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 10: into this because there's just there's been no action by 769 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 10: the courts, and the courts need to sit there and 770 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 10: say no, an illegal immigrants child is not a citizen 771 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 10: by the fourteenth Amendment. 772 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 5: Ryan, stay there for another segment. 773 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 6: Relief Factor dot Com one hundred percent drug free Relief 774 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 6: Factor can get you out of paint. 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Anyways, 784 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 7: took relief Factor when they became a sponsor to the show, uh, 785 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,319 Speaker 7: and they told me to take three packets a day 786 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 7: for two weeks to really hit it hard, and then 787 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 7: just one packet a day there on. I've never had 788 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:26,439 Speaker 7: a never had a problem since. 789 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 6: That is Relieffactor dot com one hundred percent drug free 790 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 6: Relief Factor. 791 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 5: So take a look right now. No matter what type 792 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 5: of pain you are in. 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It's true. 819 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,840 Speaker 7: For the record, that is the staff that gets that. 820 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,959 Speaker 7: We work ourselves into a Yeah, exactly all. 821 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,360 Speaker 6: Right, Email us freedomt Kirk dot com and subscribe to 822 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 6: our podcast. Open up our podcast application, go to Amfest 823 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 6: dot com. 824 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:42,320 Speaker 5: Andrew, you have some thoughts here? 825 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 7: Well, no, I mean we were just talking about, you know, 826 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 7: the Department of Education. I believe you were talking about 827 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 7: that with Chip Roy and the impoundment question. But you know, Ryan, 828 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 7: you are you have a I think it's the seventeen 829 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,760 Speaker 7: seventy six Project Proact. 830 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,360 Speaker 5: And you have you've done. Yeah, You've some amazing work there. 831 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,439 Speaker 5: You know. That's something that's one of our central themes 832 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:04,879 Speaker 5: on this show. 833 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 7: Obviously Charlie's one of Charlie's work really and as we 834 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 7: look to the horizon and what can be done about 835 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,359 Speaker 7: you know, Charlie's's college as a scam, maybe you fall 836 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,319 Speaker 7: somewhere there. We also have local school boards, which you've 837 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 7: been really hard on. Just size it up as a 838 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 7: first question isolate, what are the biggest problems in American 839 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 7: education and how do we address them? 840 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,360 Speaker 10: The biggest problem is the teacher schools, the teachers universities, 841 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,840 Speaker 10: the universities where you learn to become a teacher. So 842 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:39,360 Speaker 10: there's University of Chicago at Urbane, this is just one example. 843 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:43,440 Speaker 10: There is a professor known as Rachelle Gutierrez. She's an 844 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 10: award winning math professor. She teaches people how to teach math. 845 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:53,919 Speaker 10: Her entire curriculum on math is about the decolonization of math. 846 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 10: How you strip whiteness from math? 847 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 4: And she's what And she. 848 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 10: Has had hundreds, if not thousands of people passed through 849 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 10: her classes learning how to make teachers from her examples, 850 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:06,800 Speaker 10: and they come. You know, if you think of the 851 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,359 Speaker 10: average person who want to be a teacher, they when 852 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 10: you were younger, when you met them in grade school 853 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 10: or high school, they were just probably know a girl 854 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 10: who wanted summers off and liked kids, and YadA, YadA, YadA, 855 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 10: and then they go through this radicalization program through these 856 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,239 Speaker 10: teachers colleges. I think that there I think one thing 857 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,839 Speaker 10: that could be done and that some places have started doing, 858 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,799 Speaker 10: is I think there has to be a way to 859 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 10: change the accreditation process around what it is to be 860 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 10: a teacher. I don't think you should have to go 861 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,479 Speaker 10: to the teaching colleges to supplement for being a teacher. 862 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 10: I think you could have classroom time or something else 863 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 10: along with a comparative degree in order to become a teacher. 864 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 10: So that's one thing. Curriculum is another thing. We flipped 865 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 10: the Miami Dade School Board back two years ago. They've 866 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 10: started a program to change the way they do literature 867 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 10: and English Language Arts ELA to be classics, to base 868 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 10: it on the classics. And when you have a classic 869 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 10: based curriculum in the publics rules, which is possible, you 870 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,720 Speaker 10: no longer have the worry about teaching anti racism language 871 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,400 Speaker 10: and literature. Because of that, I would say the third 872 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 10: and final thing I'll say is that the tech in 873 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 10: school is problematic because while the textbooks are incredibly regulated, 874 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 10: the apps that most teachers use are not regulated. In 875 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,920 Speaker 10: ninety seven percent of all apps are given to schools 876 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 10: for free with the sole purpose then reselling children's data 877 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:31,879 Speaker 10: later on to other companies. It is preposterous, and there's 878 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,719 Speaker 10: a ton of woke language within the apps themselves, and 879 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 10: they're very unregulated. As opposed to textbooks, which are very regulated. 880 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 6: There's so much here, Rian, I re only have two minutes. 881 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 6: I'm gonna ask a broad question and we could pick 882 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 6: this up at another time. Do you believe that we 883 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 6: are five looking five years prior to now and now 884 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:52,960 Speaker 6: five years ahead, so a ten year window. 885 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 5: We're heading in the. 886 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,360 Speaker 6: Right direction of a classical based educational revolution. 887 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 4: Yes, one hundred percent. Six school classics. 888 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 10: Schools are popping up everywhere, public schools are reforming to 889 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 10: adopt that, and for the first time, Republican state legislators 890 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 10: are really genuinely caring about education because of what happened 891 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,799 Speaker 10: two years ago. My pack is launching a foundation called 892 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,279 Speaker 10: the seventeen seventy six Foundation. We just started it, where 893 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 10: we're going to work on having school boards meet with 894 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,800 Speaker 10: each other from different district across the country to discuss 895 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,319 Speaker 10: what policy changes are happening in one place and how 896 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,399 Speaker 10: they can happen every place, and broadening that communication, which 897 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,960 Speaker 10: doesn't happen enough. It's happening on the local level, and 898 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 10: it's happening now at the state level. The federal government 899 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 10: now that Trump's president will be president. I think that 900 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,720 Speaker 10: the grant program and the way that money is doled 901 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,480 Speaker 10: out will be the very very important thing, because a 902 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 10: lot of stuff happens the way that DC doles out money. 903 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,239 Speaker 6: We are out of time, Ryan, thank you so much, 904 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 6: really appreciate it. 905 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,440 Speaker 5: Thank having on again and soume thank you. 906 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,319 Speaker 6: Email is freedom at Charlie Kirk dot com and subscribe. 907 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 5: To our podcast. 908 00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,399 Speaker 6: Open up your podcast application and type in Jari Kirk 909 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:05,360 Speaker 6: Show and just let's summarize the week here. Keep the 910 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:10,840 Speaker 6: pressure on. The pressure will continue until morale improoves. This 911 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 6: weekend we have a big weekend at Turning Point USA 912 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,280 Speaker 6: and Turning Point Action. One thousand of our biggest donors 913 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,439 Speaker 6: will be at Mara a Lago this weekend in Palm Meach. 914 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:22,399 Speaker 6: We will resume next weekend next week for a big show. 915 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 6: But it really is all about Americafest Amfest dot com 916 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 6: am Fest. 917 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,719 Speaker 7: It's gonna be the biggest amfest in our history. I 918 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 7: think that's safe to say, and I would. I mean, 919 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:33,280 Speaker 7: we say this every. 920 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,840 Speaker 5: Year, Charlie, so I'm I'm hesitant. 921 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 7: But I genuinely think this speaker lineup is our best ever. Yes, 922 00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,239 Speaker 7: by some measure. Actually we keep out doing it. 923 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 5: It really is Amfest dot com. The team's been doing amazing. 924 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,960 Speaker 6: Get your tickets right now promo code Charlie for a specialist 925 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 6: discount amfest dot com a n FBST dot com. Email 926 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,839 Speaker 6: us is always Freedom at Charliekirk dot com. Our three 927 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,560 Speaker 6: coming up. Enjoy that and again, get your tickets to Americafest. 928 00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 5: To you assume 929 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 4: Hey,