1 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: And our guests. Oh wonderful. 2 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 2: So this is a woman that I knew god in 3 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 2: the nineties I guess, or early two thousands, it had 4 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: to be, and she found fame in w w E. 5 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: This is the former Deefen known as Cherry. I'm like 6 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: sitting here talking and you're just like staring at me. 7 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure at the microphone. 8 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 2: Okay, I was just I was saying like, I don't 9 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: remember what year you and I met, but you were 10 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: Kara Slice. 11 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I was, So that had. 12 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: To be good. Lord. Was that during ECW or right 13 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 2: after ECW or you're. 14 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: In ECW And I think we did a show as 15 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: in Connecticut. It was like an outside show. It was 16 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: the first show we were on. But I think I 17 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: met you before that. But yeah, you were a ECW 18 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,199 Speaker 1: and I still do in the Independence. 19 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't know why I was allowed to 20 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 2: do an indie show when I was under contract. That 21 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: that happened a couple times. 22 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: We've seen a few. 23 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,199 Speaker 3: We've watched a couple random New Jack City Wrestling shows 24 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 3: that you bought me. 25 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 2: I don't know why I was there, but I remember 26 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: watching you at You were so young and I said 27 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: to myself, this girl is going to do something in 28 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: this business. And you did, you did, but I lost 29 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: touch and I haven't seen you in forever. So when 30 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: you popped up on Twitter and I noticed you were 31 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: following me, so I followed you right back, and I 32 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: was like, I want to get her on the show 33 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: because I want to know what's going on. Where have 34 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 2: you been? Have you been hiding somewhere? Like what is 35 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: what is going on in your world right now? 36 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. So I am fully out of wrestling, obviously, 37 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: and it's been for a couple of years. But I'm 38 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: in Florida. Oh I just kind of started over, you know, 39 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: and I sell insurance now for USAA. I don't know 40 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: if I can say that, but I love it, you know. 41 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: I love that job. I still get to meet a 42 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: lot of people, and that's the fun part of it. 43 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: I talk to people, you know, in all fifty states, 44 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: and that's the fun part is meeting people and learning 45 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: about them and stuff. So, yeah, I just bought my 46 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,119 Speaker 1: first house in October. 47 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 2: So yay, I love that. Okay, and you're you're in Florida. 48 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: This is why I'm working because I am trying to 49 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 2: get to Florida. 50 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: Oh what part of Florida are you coming to? 51 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 2: Well, I don't nowhere yet, but I'm looking like if 52 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: you go to my zillow, it's kissing me Orlando's celebration 53 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 2: because I am like a big theme park girl. Okay, 54 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 2: So I would love to be in the fisy of 55 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 2: all the parks and maybe try to become a blogger 56 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: of all things Disney and universection and that kind of thing. 57 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 2: But you know, that's a dream. I mean, I'm fifty 58 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: years old. What the hell did I think I'm doing 59 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 2: blogging with my life? 60 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. But do what you want to do 61 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: with your life, you know. 62 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 2: No, that's that's good advice, because I have to. My 63 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 2: kids love it. My kids. I mean we were just 64 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 2: there two weeks ago. I think I told you we 65 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: were there for Speen days and it went by like that. 66 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: And my kids were so happy the whole trip, you know. 67 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 2: I mean, they're good kids in general. But I'm thinking 68 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: to myself, God, if we live down here, like, yeah, 69 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 2: be happy all the time. 70 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. I mean there's some diehard Disney fans down here. 71 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: I'm not one of them. I mean, I live more 72 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: Wesley Chapel. Okay, but yeah, my sister just visited from 73 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: California this past week and her kids are not theme 74 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: park kids, so we didn't even do that stuff. 75 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: So now when you say Wesley Tchuble, is that near water. 76 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: There's a water grass out here. It's getting built up, 77 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: So I'm kind of Zephyr Hill's Wesley Chapel area. So 78 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: I'm way inland. Okay, Okay, yeah there, oh yeah. The 79 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: heats of the only thing I don't like. The heat 80 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: could be bearable. 81 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: I mean, you're from the Northeast, so you're you're either 82 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,679 Speaker 2: gonna get really cold or really hot, right, I would 83 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 2: prefer really hot over really cold, I know. 84 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: And the beaches are so nice down here, a lot 85 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: nicer than you know. 86 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh well, I am super jealous of you. Let's 87 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 2: go back a little bit. Okay, how did you get involved? 88 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 2: Because I see you in the indies? Who who was 89 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: the one that trained you? Initially? 90 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: The boys kind of really Yeah, So I met a 91 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: promoter a J. Sparks through so Carmine Savia and I 92 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: had been working in the cellular industry selling cell phones 93 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So I had met a friend 94 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: whose uncle, Carmin Savia. She's like, you know a lot 95 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: about wrestling. So we talked and then it was all 96 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: about networking. I mean, we all know networking gets you 97 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: ahead in life, right, So he got me in contact 98 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: with AJ Sparks and Kevin Knight. I met them, went 99 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 1: to a show, and just went to a show like 100 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: I wasn't like, I didn't know that's how you get 101 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: involved in wrestling. I was just a wrestling fan, you know. 102 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: I didn't know there was a school and all that stuff. 103 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: So anyway, I just networked, and then I met Bobcat 104 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: and then I met Danny Inferno, and Danny Inferno was 105 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: the one so I did. I met Julio Denaria, I 106 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: traveled a lot with so I valeted for him a lot, 107 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: and I know you know him very well. So I 108 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: just met people and went to different shows. And my 109 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,799 Speaker 1: boyfriend at the time, Judas Young, had already been in wrestling, 110 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: so I did shows with him. I found my own 111 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: network and just kind of saturated the area when I could, 112 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: you know, because Weekend Warriors, right sure? 113 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 2: And how old are you when you when you. 114 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: Start twenty late twenties? 115 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 2: I remember late no. 116 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: I started in ninety nine. I started turning in ninety nine. 117 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 2: Late twenties. Yeah here, I'm thinking you're like nineteen years old. 118 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: No, smoke up your ass. 119 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, she, she's like nineteen twenty years old. 120 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: I don't feel though, how old I am now either. 121 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: So yeah, so that was just a lot of networking, 122 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: did a lot of independence, try to saturate as much 123 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: as I could, and that's kind of how it started. 124 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I was just like, I'll just do this 125 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: until I don't like it anymore, and just kept going. 126 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: So you're having fun. 127 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 2: And I could be wrong, but that name is ringing 128 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 2: a bell? Is that Carmine cb a guy, the one 129 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 2: that never left his house? Yes? Yes, Okay, I got 130 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 2: interaction with him, and I do remember that name. 131 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: Okay, Jars and Strike Championship Wrestling, which never really kind 132 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: of got out there, but yeah, whatever he was able to, 133 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 1: he was able to do something. So yeah, he was 134 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: my real first connection to the indies. Yeah. 135 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: Interesting, Okay, so you come to these shows, you start 136 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 2: doing manager work. I'm assuming because you're not gonna jump 137 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,239 Speaker 2: in the ring yet, right, will fledge match? 138 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: Right? Right? 139 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 2: You all in love with it right away? Or are 140 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 2: you saying to yourself, What the hell am I doing here? 141 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: I fall in love with it right away, Yeah, because 142 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: I was a fan and Bobcat was so nice to me, 143 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: and she was just the other female rival. We always 144 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: had that, right, and we. 145 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 2: Would go to shows together talk to her to this day. 146 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 2: She was in my wedding. I mean, oh yeah, really 147 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: good friend of mine. 148 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. I love Cindy. Yeah, she's great, best, she's the best. Yeah. 149 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, I remember seeing all you guys on shows 150 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: that I was on. You know, I met Nova and 151 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: his brother first off, which kind of got me. I 152 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: knew about you had been watching ECW, so Stevie Richards 153 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: and all them would come to the shows, and they 154 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: were smaller shows back then, you know, they weren't hugely 155 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: packed or anything. I mean ECW was definitely drawing the crowds. 156 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, but uh I did. I fell in love 157 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: with it and was like, I'll do the managing thing. 158 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: And then I kind of got bored, so I went 159 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: to I forget who told me, But I started to 160 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: become friends with Tommy Fierro, Jus, Young Inferno Kid, Dannie Jimundo, 161 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: and they told me about ecp W, which was Gino 162 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: Caruso's School in Carsipia, Jersey. So then I went there, 163 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: and from when I went, I never really saw Gino 164 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: running classes. I know it was a school, but I 165 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: ended up learning from the boys like Judas would work 166 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: out with me, and Johnny Thunder would work out with me. 167 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: So a lot of the like regular guys that would 168 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: just go for a workout would teach me some stuff. 169 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: So I kind of started from there and then started 170 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: learning as I you know, So I'd go to the 171 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: school like twice a week and I'd do the weekend 172 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: warrior stuff and I'd learn more stuff there. So over 173 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: time it got better. So I yeah, I was. I 174 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 1: was starting to get bored at the vallet. There's only 175 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: so much you could do, right, right, So yeah, then 176 00:08:59,200 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: I started to learning. 177 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 3: An interject for a second, it's like the Hall of 178 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 3: Fame of New Jersey indies. All these names, this is 179 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 3: who I saw on the posters growing up, or every 180 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 3: single person that you're mentioning. 181 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: So I love that. 182 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 3: That's my favorite. 183 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: I love the Jersey indies. Oh, I'll drop some other 184 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: names if I remember. 185 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 3: Fine, I dropped New jack City Wrestling, and that's why 186 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 3: I saw your reaction so this is h. 187 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 2: Well, so you okay, so you did the manager thing, 188 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 2: obviously you liked being a wrestler more. 189 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: But I think, well, I was really nervous at first 190 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: because I just didn't think I was very athletic. So 191 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: I took it a little bit at a time. I 192 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: didn't take on big matches or anything like that, just 193 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: and a lot of the girls around me they weren't. 194 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: The most experienced was Mickey James that really I would 195 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: do shows with. All the other girls were not really 196 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: that season. So it took a little bit for me 197 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: to to get the hang of it. So and then 198 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: I started to do better because then I was able 199 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: to do managing half wrestling full wrestling matches. So at 200 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: first it was the little because your body has a 201 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 1: use to that, you know, you know it feels so 202 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: also unfortunately, and the nerve wrack of wrestling in front 203 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: of a crowd and remembering you know what you're you're 204 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: planning on doing, and God forbid something happen you have 205 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: to go off of that That was I Still I 206 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: was always struggled with knowing how much time, like, oh, 207 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: you have a minute left? Like I always struggled at. 208 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 2: The time yeah, and you're doing indies, so you have 209 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 2: a minute left, like, no, I can have five ten minutes, 210 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 2: Like this isn't television like that. I never understood. I mean, 211 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 2: I know they have to get out of there at 212 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 2: a certain time and stuff, but yeah, pressure on everybody, 213 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 2: and it's like, come on, it's an indie show. 214 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: Let them be exactly. I don't get it. 215 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 2: Okay, So so you work really really hard. How does 216 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 2: ww F or was it. 217 00:10:58,720 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: At the time. 218 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even know. How do how do you 219 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 2: get on their radar? 220 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: So Danny and Jamundo was already in Kentucky when OVW 221 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: was the developmental and I had managed him a lot too. 222 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: So they had a tryout training camp for OVW and 223 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 1: he told me about it. He's like, you're perfect for this. 224 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: And he told me and my boyfriend at the time, 225 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: you're perfect for this. And so I was like, eh, 226 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna set in my application and I was like, 227 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 1: they're not going to accept me, and they did. And 228 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: then I was like, I'll go for the weekend and 229 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: do weekend stuff all the time, right because it was 230 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: only a Friday, Saturday, Sunday. So I was like, oh, 231 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 1: So I went and it was just like that. I mean, 232 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: you did. I didn't think anything of it. I was like, oh, 233 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: they're never going to take me. I'm just you know, 234 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 1: good experience, like because we had done like my boyfriend 235 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: and I went down to Memphis and did Terry Golden's 236 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: developmental when it was back then, so we were used 237 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: to kind of doing that. So I went and I 238 00:11:55,760 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: was one of two girls in the class and for 239 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: you at that time, right right, and for some on 240 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 1: the second day, she like hit in the bathroom, so 241 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: she was super intimidated. It was. I never saw her again, 242 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: but so that he looked good, right, And then I 243 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: had I had been networking, so I knew a lot 244 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: of the kids that were already there. I knew Pat 245 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: Buck was there, and Damian Adams was there, and Damien 246 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: and I would would train every week together, so we 247 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: already knew each other. So long story short, we did that. 248 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 1: And then I called Danny Davis like that week when 249 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: I got home and thanked him for the opportunity, and 250 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: he said, you know, we see a lot in you 251 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: and we would love for you to come and train 252 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: at OVW. And he was very clear, this is OBW. Yes, 253 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: it's the developmental for WW at the time. But you're 254 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,599 Speaker 1: coming for OVW. There's no promise, you, no guarantee you. 255 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 1: So like something in my gut just said do it. 256 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: So I left a job that I loved and I 257 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: was making really good money and I just took a chance, 258 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: so get down there in August of five and they 259 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: did their TVs on Wednesday. So the girl that used 260 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: to be the ring girl for whatever reason wouldn't make 261 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: it or whatever. I was like, I'll do it. Like 262 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: I just was like, whatever I can do, right, So 263 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: I'd been doing classes. You show up to the TV 264 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: and help out, you show up to the weekend house shows, 265 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: you help out. I mean, it was just constant. So 266 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: I got on as the ring girl. So, long story short, 267 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: Deuce was down there already, and I'd known Deuce for 268 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: a long time because he started in ECPW in the 269 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: same year that I did. However, he would come with 270 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: his dad on times where nobody else was there and 271 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: they would train. So I had met him a few 272 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: times and did indie shows with him and stuff like that. 273 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: So you know, again I had already met worked. I 274 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: knew a lot of people already there. Besides inferno. So 275 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: long story short, after one of the TVs, he approached 276 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 1: me and said that, you know, him and Cliff were 277 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: working on this gimmick and they did, and really they 278 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: wanted a girl on old school roller skates. And he 279 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: wanted to, you know, give me the opportunity to put 280 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 1: it together with them, because Deuce was sign a, Cliff 281 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: wasn't either, Dumbina wasn't either. So they showed me the 282 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: promos that they had been working on because for some reason, 283 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: Cliff was in the he had gotten into the advanced class, 284 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: so he had been there for a while. So they'd 285 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: been working on promo class this greaser gimmick, and they 286 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: wanted a girl on old school roller skates. They didn't 287 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: know what she looked like, they didn't know her name. 288 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: They just wanted her on old school roller skates for 289 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: the gimmick. So I was like wow, Like so, so 290 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: Jimmy knew me and knew kind of my what he 291 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: said was my work ethics, so he's like, let's ask her, 292 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: you know. So it kind of came together all in 293 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: one week and it almost didn't happen. So that so 294 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: Wednesday was TV. Jimmy approached me that coming Tuesday, Johnny 295 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: East and everybody was coming down to evaluate who was 296 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: down there, so we didn't tell anybody that we were 297 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: putting this together. So I had to go out and 298 00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: find the skates. I had to find the outfit and 299 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: all this. So we kind of like scrambled, and on 300 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: Sunday we got together at the school, came up with 301 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: my name. It was either going to be Cherry from 302 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: Outsiders or Sandy from Greece, and wrestling wise, Cherry is 303 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: me sure. So so then Tuesday, well, Monday night comes 304 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: around and Jimmy calls me and he's like, hey, Danny's 305 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: not going. Danny said you can't come because it's only 306 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: for contracted talent, and I was like, oh my god, 307 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: like and I was just like bummed. But what could 308 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: I do? Yeah, So my boyfriend at the time, Judas Young, 309 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: was actually coming in to visit, so I was like, 310 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: all right, I'll just get you know, clean the house 311 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: and like have everything ready's coming, you know. He's like, 312 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: just be ready. He's going to go down and really 313 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: fight for me. So, long story short, he fights for me. 314 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: The day of he calls me, He's like get down here. 315 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: So I grab all of my stuff. I run into 316 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: Davis Arena and the first person I sees Rip Rogers, 317 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: Now I'm in this class. I didn't tell him what 318 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: was going on, and he looks at me was like, 319 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: are you getting me? You're late, and I'm like I 320 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: wanted to be like rep. I didn't mean to be. 321 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: You don't understand. So I run into the girl's locker 322 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: room and change really quick, and again nobody knows that 323 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: this is going on. So I come out in my 324 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: skates and I hadn't roller skated since I was like little. 325 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: Oh well, so of course, do some domino across Davis Arena. 326 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: So I roll and I said do something like catch me. 327 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: It couldn't stop. It was like a pin drop. It 328 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: was the best feeling ever. So I roll out and 329 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: everybody stopped talking. They were like watching me roll across. 330 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 2: That is so great. Your name should have been Cherry Pop. 331 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: That's funny because we'll get the cherry that's so great 332 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: as sure that I had in WWE that I that 333 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: I was using. I wanted to use Cherry Pop, but 334 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: Vince nixed it out. So Mick Foley's like, what's your 335 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: what's your finisher? And I was like cherry pop and 336 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: they ended up calling it the do Wop Drop because 337 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: Vince didn't like it. And then and Mick was like, 338 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: I tried, yeah. 339 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, So you you come out with the skates. Do 340 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 2: you have the big you know, the big skirt, the 341 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 2: big poodle skirt and the hole the hair up And. 342 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: I didn't have the poodle skirt. I had this like 343 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: blowout skirt. It was just kind of what I can make. 344 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 2: Shift, you know, prepare because you had five minutes to 345 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 2: prepare for this big Yeah. 346 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 1: Of course. 347 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 2: Okay. 348 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: So we go through the day. They do matches, you know, 349 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: they do drills, they do all of that stuff, and 350 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: Johnny ash just kept having He's like he's like, Jimmy, 351 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: bring your team, Jimmy, bring your team. So we got 352 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: up to the point where we were doing promos and 353 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: we all get online for promos and Johnny goes to Cliff, 354 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: he goes, I want you guys up next, because they 355 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: would go into Danny's office and watch us on the 356 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 1: TV on the cameras. So we made us skip the line. 357 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: So we go and do our thing, and we had 358 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: been working on promo so that worked. So long story short, 359 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: like they ended up cutting it because we had a 360 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 1: ton of people there, and Arne was there, Tedy Biassi 361 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: was there, there were so many, uh, doctor Tom Rip, 362 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: Danny Davis. So they greet the room, They're like, thank 363 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: you so much, blah blah blah blah. They give us 364 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: words of wisdom and all that stuff, and then Johnny goes, Jimmy, 365 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: bring your team into the office. I was like, what, yeah, 366 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: so they just so. So Johnny brings us in and 367 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 1: basically says, we loved it, this is great, this is awesome. 368 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: You know, I'm thinking I almost didn't even make this right. 369 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: So he says, we want to sign you, and that's 370 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: all I heard. Oh I did hear? He goes, oh, 371 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: and I didn't know you could wrestle. Like they knew 372 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: nothing about me. They didn't knew that. They didn't know 373 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: that I was in the classes I had been on 374 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: the indies. They were like, oh, we want to be 375 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: your bonus. So I was like, I was there for 376 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: four months, Grant Scene, four months, unheard of incredible. And 377 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: the funny thing is they wanted to debut us that 378 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: next Monday. Outer all, so we got booked to go 379 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 1: to the house show that weekend and We're like, oh 380 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: my god, we're like a week old. 381 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 2: So you're training down there for four months, you get 382 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 2: thrown into this position you know this, Yeah, right place, 383 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 2: right time kind of sort of because you made it 384 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 2: to the right place at the right time, and then 385 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 2: the next week we want you on row. What is 386 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 2: your mind? Are you blown away at this point? 387 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: Completely blown away? Yeah, completely blown away. 388 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 2: It sounds like to me, you're you're having a positive 389 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 2: experience in ov W, Yes, the best. Do you feel 390 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 2: like you were ready for all? 391 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: We we definitely didn't think we were ready. We were 392 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: we were a week old. I mean, the boys had 393 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: been working. We didn't get that chemistry really yet. So 394 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: they he ended us flying us in the house show 395 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: Loop and we were supposed to do something with superstar 396 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 1: Billy Graham that Monday, I think like his book was 397 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: coming out or something. You were going to interrupt it 398 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, and then we ended up going but 399 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 1: they didn't use us a scrapped it, which was a 400 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 1: godsend because we ended up staying down in OVW for 401 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: a year. So we ended up debuting a year to 402 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 1: the day that Cliff and I got signed January nineteenth, 403 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: Oh wow, which gave us that time to marinate. So 404 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: it was a blessing, Yeah, blessing. 405 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 2: And it's got to work on the characters chemistry together. 406 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:40,479 Speaker 2: And when you finally go up to you know, the 407 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 2: main roster, how long were you there for and what 408 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 2: was your opinion? Because I know back then I worked 409 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 2: there in two thousand and six and it was very 410 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 2: negative for me. And it's either anybody who says anything, 411 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 2: it's either the most wonderful thing that ever happened to 412 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 2: them or they wanted to kill themselves because it was 413 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 2: the worst experience of their life. I didn't want to 414 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 2: kill myself over it, but I would have to not 415 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 2: be there. What he experience? Positive? Uh? Negative? 416 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: It was. I wasn't really sure of anything, so I 417 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: just kind of kept to myself and was quiet and 418 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 1: and you know, just said my hellos and stayed in 419 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: the corner. And you know, it wasn't I just kind 420 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 1: of like followed my lead and then met up with 421 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,719 Speaker 1: the boys and what do we need to do? And 422 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: you know, I had known some people from OVW or 423 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: what have you, but I didn't in the beginning. It 424 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 1: wasn't bad. I just didn't know what to do, and 425 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: I didn't want to do the wrong thing, so I 426 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: just kind of like stayed the straight and narrow and 427 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: I go back to my hotel room at night and be. 428 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 2: Like, oh breathing. 429 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: Nobody was ever mean to me or anything like that, 430 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: right and right. It was just navigating this new environment 431 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: and this new, bigger environment. It's like I'm here, like wait, 432 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: I'm here, you know. So I never had any bad 433 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 1: experien speriences. I know. I'm not made for that industry, 434 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 1: I feel, or that television environment. Like I'm just a 435 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: normal girl that love was wrestling and was able to 436 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: live my dream. So a lot of the like politiicy 437 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: stuff I didn't really understand. But I feel like I 438 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: got along with everybody. I feel like I had a 439 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: decent time. I started to struggle with myself towards the end, 440 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: which was not delightful. So it wasn't because of somebody 441 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,719 Speaker 1: being mean to me or budding heads with anybody or 442 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: I mean, we all get struggles with the creative team 443 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: and how the story's going, and that was you know, natural, 444 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: I feel, But I had a bad time in sense 445 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: because of myself. I got super insecure and I felt 446 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: so out of place and even though they were doing 447 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: stuff with me and it was going really well for me, 448 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: I just got super insecure and self conscious, you know. 449 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think we all. I I crumbled within myself, 450 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: but it wasn't because of somebody else. Like all the 451 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,719 Speaker 1: girls to me were very nice to me, and you 452 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: were very nice to me and Shelley, and you know, 453 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: it was chaotic when everybody was there. 454 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 3: Come let me take you back, turn back the hands 455 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 3: of time. 456 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: That's when I discovered. 457 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 2: That's when I made it mine. My pants couldn't be 458 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 2: too I think the difference between you and I, like 459 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 2: I always say, it was a great opportunity. You know, 460 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 2: I'm I took the opportunity, but it wasn't my cup 461 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 2: of teape. That's what I say. The difference is me 462 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 2: going in there, there was no plan so to speak. 463 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 2: I was told one thing, and then as soon as 464 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 2: I got there, that was like that conversation never happened, 465 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 2: and they no one was on board with that because 466 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 2: nobody knew what I was told to sign the contract, right, 467 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 2: So you know, I was told something and then I 468 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 2: go in there and I have to do something completely different. 469 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 2: Like you, I would say, you're kind of homegrown in 470 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 2: a sense that you were never signed anywhere and they 471 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 2: molded you. You trained with them, so I had thirteen 472 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 2: years experience, but it wasn't experience with them. So I 473 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 2: go in there and I'm pretty much scared to death. 474 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 2: I have my tail between my legs, humble as hell, 475 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 2: you know, trying. I'm getting people stuffed from catering that 476 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 2: have been in the business for six months, like I'm 477 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 2: serving people like I'm just trying to fit in. I 478 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 2: don't want to cause any waves. And then I'm told 479 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 2: I don't politic enough an office. You're not politic enough. 480 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 2: You're not out there, You're not You're not trying to 481 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 2: get a spot. You're like watching paint dry. So when 482 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 2: I hear you say, you know you kept to yourself, 483 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 2: I did the same thing, but I got heat for it. 484 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 2: I got try Oh yeah, yeah, it was a toe. 485 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 2: It was like you and I are kind of like 486 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 2: the same person. We have the same mind frame about 487 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 2: that place, but if we did things kind of equally, 488 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 2: but it was a different reaction. 489 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 1: And I think that's the problem. It's I've always said 490 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 1: I never felt like everybody was on the same team, Like, hey, 491 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: you want me to go do this, and I come 492 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: back and I do something you don't want me to do. 493 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: They don't tell you like, hey, we would have rather 494 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 1: you have done this, like they it's such a guessing game. 495 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 1: So it's you know, nothing's ever the same. Like when 496 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: I did my match with Natty it was her debut 497 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: match and Fit and us we put it together and 498 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: it went over really well. We come back, I mean 499 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: standing ovation in Gorilla, right, so I'm like, yay. So 500 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: they loved it. It went well and Fit was happy. 501 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: So the next week I did another match. It was 502 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: exactly the way they wanted it or how I knew. It. 503 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 1: Came back and nobody would look at me, nobody would 504 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 1: tell me anything, nobody would say anything. I'm like, did 505 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: I make a mistake? Did I do what you wanted 506 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 1: me to do? 507 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 2: Like your agents won't even tell you what's going on. 508 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: Not after that second one, So I was like, what 509 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: this is weird? So I get what you're saying, because 510 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: things you could, they could want one thing from you, 511 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: and then I can be doing that same thing and 512 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 1: it's and it's like you're not doing it right, but 513 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: I'm doing it. I totally totally get what you're saying. 514 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 2: And it doesn't make any sense, and like do you 515 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 2: get heat for it that you don't know about? Because 516 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 2: you know, I can't even tell you how many times 517 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 2: I sat in front of Johnny East and cried and 518 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 2: asked for my release and was like, this isn't a 519 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 2: good fit for me, because like you're presenting ideas and 520 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 2: no one's listening to you. 521 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 522 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it's super frustrating to me and for 523 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:23,719 Speaker 2: somebody I'm not lackadaisyl, lackadaisical when it comes to working, Like, 524 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 2: my work ethic is really high because at one point, 525 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 2: like and you were the same way, we love this 526 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 2: business and you wanted to work and you wanted to grow, 527 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 2: and you know, I kept saying to them, I want 528 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 2: to work, I want to work. It was like going 529 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 2: in one ear and out job. No one cared that 530 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 2: I was even there, and I'm thinking, why am I hired? 531 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 2: You know, in your instance, you were there, you trained, 532 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 2: they saw something in you, and they're salivating to get 533 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 2: you on TV right away, and you know, you take 534 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 2: a year, you get your craft. You you know, go 535 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 2: with these two guys and you become a threesome that 536 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 2: they love, and yet you're doing things that they're not 537 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 2: approving and no one's telling you what you're doing wrong. 538 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if they approved or approved or not. 539 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: Nobody told me either way, so you know if but 540 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 1: looking back on it now, obviously not in the moment, 541 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: you don't understand, but just talking to Natty and talking 542 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 1: to TJ and talking, you know, I ran into de 543 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: Malenko in the airports and you know, being able to 544 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 1: talk to people every time. It's not just us talent 545 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: where things kind of go. They're just you don't know 546 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 1: what's going on. It's the producers too, So I think, yes, 547 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: I may have felt like what is going on? And 548 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: somebody tell me like should I have done this? Should 549 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: I do that? Was that perfect? Was that not? Was? 550 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: They're getting that too. So I think everybody's in this 551 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: like dire circle of like what's going on? 552 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 2: What are the agents there for? They're there to critique 553 00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 2: your work, telling you no, that's what they do. You 554 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 2: have an agent, you know, everybody has their agents back there. 555 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 2: Stephen Kern was one of my agents all the time, 556 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 2: and he made me feedback all the time, like I 557 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 2: didn't work much for them, like we did I worked 558 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 2: every house show, loop and stuff for six months, but 559 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 2: I didn't get a lot of TV time because, honestly, 560 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 2: I you know, I was paired up with balls and 561 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 2: then he took a urine test and he had drugs 562 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 2: in his system and got kicked off the road. And 563 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 2: then it was like, go get a bathing suit you're 564 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 2: gonna do and I'm just like, I don't want to do. 565 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 2: I don't do these bikinis. I never did bikini stuff. 566 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 2: And I'm in my third mid thirties now, you know 567 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 2: what I mean. And it's like if you go to 568 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 2: the office and you say I can do this, this 569 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 2: and this, and Vince McMahon tells me, I know nothing 570 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 2: about you. Well, it's your company, dude, why am I 571 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 2: even here? 572 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean. 573 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 2: Like when you say there's no feedback, I kind of 574 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 2: get that. And at some point I just said to myself, 575 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 2: they're just telling me things that I want to hear 576 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 2: at this point, and I can't do anything to change 577 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 2: it because they're not willing to change anything. 578 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: I'm not sure some people knew. I remember one time 579 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: we were in the car about to drive out for 580 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: our entrance. Our music was playing and we were wrestling 581 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: Bran Lendon Kendrick and our agent came over and was like, 582 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: they just changed it again and they jumped out. Yeah. So, 583 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: looking back on it now, I think everybody feels that way, 584 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I feel like the producers 585 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: feel that way, and the wrestlers feel that way, and 586 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: we feel that way, and so it's yeah, that's why 587 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: I say, like, I'm just a normal girl who's not 588 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: used to that kind of life. Sign Yeah, well it's uh, 589 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. 590 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 2: It was apples and oranges. ECW was so laid back, 591 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 2: and then you get to this place and it's like 592 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 2: a zoo. Really is like a zoo. Yeah, how long 593 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 2: how long did you last there on the main rock? 594 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 2: You were there in O VW for a year, then you. 595 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: Move off, yes, and then I was Oh, so I 596 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: got released August of eight with the Crash of Everybody. 597 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: Domino got released the week before me. Then I got 598 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: released in the second Talent releases, and then the last 599 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: two weeks of the month they let a ton of 600 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: people from Headquarters go. 601 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 2: So so roughly about three years with the comping, yeah, 602 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,959 Speaker 2: two two and a half. Yeah, okay, yeah, regret it 603 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 2: or learning experience. No, okay, I know. 604 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: It's a blessing. Now I can see now that it 605 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: was a blessing. I just take it. You know. I 606 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: wish I could have done more, but it was I 607 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: take responsibility for it because I did not towards the end, 608 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: when I got super in my head and I got 609 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: super insecure, I didn't take I didn't invest in myself 610 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: like Natty invests in herself. And she lives ten minutes 611 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: from I moved closer up towards where she is, so 612 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: you know, she just invest in herself. She can do 613 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: pr she can do matches, she can carry people, she 614 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: can build people, she can do everything. And I didn't 615 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: do that. You know, I was so nervous. I was hiding. 616 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: I was nervous about, you know, being seen. I just 617 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: I got so insecure that I didn't take the advantage 618 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: of Fit and Regal and just these people that I 619 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: could have really picked their brains from, and I just 620 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: got so it was my fault. I mean, I don't 621 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: blame them for letting me go. I didn't. They wanted 622 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: to do stuff with me, and I should have taken 623 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: advantage of it. But I don't think I was in 624 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: my own mindset to be able to I don't know, 625 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: it's just it's it's it's it's upsetting to think of 626 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: it like that because I just know that they were 627 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: planning on doing things with me. But I honestly, I 628 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: take the responsibility. I dropped the ball. 629 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 2: Okay. So I also feel like, if you know, back 630 00:32:55,680 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 2: then we had social media and everything like they have now, 631 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 2: because we really didn't have all this, you know, Twitter 632 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 2: and Instagram and all this, bully right, we could have 633 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 2: reinvented ourselves and pushed ourselves more. But you know, back then, 634 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 2: I had a flip phone, and. 635 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: You know, I think the only messaging I remember was like, 636 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: w W had a message board on the dot com 637 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: or something. 638 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 2: And probably yeah, like and the stupid third cheeks, which 639 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 2: you know ninety percent of the time are wrong anyway, 640 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 2: So I mean, you know, I I felt like every 641 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,959 Speaker 2: time that I watched you, you looked beautiful and I 642 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 2: could I could just think back to when I thought 643 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 2: you were a kid, but apparently you weren't. He looked 644 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 2: like a kid to me. I saw you grow as 645 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 2: not only a woman, but as a performer. Like I 646 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 2: I watched you from just this this little girl outside 647 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 2: the ring, and then I watched to do your matches, 648 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 2: you know, and and it was so nice, like I 649 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 2: kind of saw you blossom, you know. So when I 650 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 2: saw you on WWE, I was just like I was proud, 651 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 2: like I felt like because I love seeing my friends thrive. 652 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and I was so happy for you. 653 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 2: And again I thought the gimmick was adorable, like really. 654 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 1: Really cute stuff. I loved it. 655 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 2: I get the insecurity thing, because I think all females 656 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 2: go through being insecure, you know, with weight, with looks, 657 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 2: with this. 658 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 1: That and the other thing. 659 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 2: I'm not a Barbie doll. I didn't look like the 660 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,720 Speaker 2: other girls. I felt like I had to work twenty 661 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 2: million times harder to prove myself that I deserved to 662 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 2: be in this industry. So I get what you're saying, 663 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 2: but to me, you looked perfect and you fit that 664 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,280 Speaker 2: part well and you did a great job. I'm excited 665 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 2: that you're starting to do some signings. I know you 666 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 2: say you're completely out of the business, but do you 667 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 2: have anything coming up anytime soon that people should be 668 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 2: aware of of. 669 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: No, no signings just yet, just more social media cameos 670 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: things like that. 671 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 2: So you're cameo. What's your uh, what's your little Do 672 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 2: they just look you up under Cherry? 673 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, under Cherry, d d C Chick. 674 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I just did some this morning, So cameos 675 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 2: a very good. 676 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 677 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 2: If anybody wants to look her up on cameo, she'll uh, 678 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 2: she'll wish you a happy birthday or she'll heal the 679 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 2: sheet out of you, one or the other. That's right, 680 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 2: are the best? I love that, Yes, they're fine. And 681 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 2: then on social media where can people find you? 682 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: So Twitter, I'm former Diva Cherry, so f m R 683 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,399 Speaker 1: Diva Cherry, and then Instagram I'm also d DC chick. 684 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 2: Awesome. Well, honey, I loved speaking with you. It's been 685 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 2: way too long and way too long. Hopefully, uh, you'll 686 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,399 Speaker 2: get booked on one of these conventions and we'll bump 687 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 2: into each. 688 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 1: Other, and yes, for sure, I would love that. 689 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 2: Yes, that would be wonderful. But until then, we'll keep 690 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,720 Speaker 2: in touch and nothing but luck to you. Enjoy Florida, 691 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 2: enjoy your job, and you look beautiful, and I'm so 692 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 2: happy that you well, yeah, thank you. I'm so happy 693 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 2: that we got to share this little bit of time together. 694 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 2: So everybody got down. 695 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 1: In Florida and then we could do like coffee or something. 696 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 2: I would love that. I'm trying to believe me, this 697 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 2: is why I'm working to move my ass down there. 698 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 2: So hopefully I will speak later. And everybody, please, you know, 699 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 2: go follow Cherry because she's she's. 700 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 1: An awesome chick. So absolutely, I'll talk to you, sou 701 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: love you guys later. 702 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 3: She looks awesome and there goes Cherry. 703 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 2: Interesting story. I never really knew the story about how 704 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 2: she got there, so very very uh very interesting. 705 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 3: And yeah, I had no idea about the New Jersey background. 706 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's she's didn't know. 707 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 3: I knew she was from Jersey, I just didn't know 708 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 3: the full I mean, that was a that was a 709 00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 3: rocket list of I thought she was like. 710 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 2: So much younger, Like when I would see her on 711 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,359 Speaker 2: these shows, I'm just like, oh, but I don't know. 712 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 2: But she looks great and it was nice to hear 713 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 2: her story because that's interesting. But you know, the whole 714 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 2: insecurity part gets me really sad. 715 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's absolutely I. 716 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 2: Went through I still go through it now. You know. 717 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 2: I just being a woman, especially in an industry where 718 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 2: it's male dominated and your fans are probably, you know, 719 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,879 Speaker 2: eighty five to ninety percent male. Most of the time. 720 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 2: It's it's hard. You can't always fit the description of 721 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 2: bombshell in people's eyes. So I totally get what she's saying, 722 00:37:42,600 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 2: but I think she's delightful. There are