1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Ron An Indian, battery's got a standing voltage of twelve 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: point three volts. Wait a minute, it's got eleven point 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: four volts. Wait a minute, it's got ten and a 4 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: half folds. Wait a minute, it's got twelve and a 5 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: half folds. The battery voltage is changing by the second 6 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: as I'm watching it on the meter, I'm going, Okay, 7 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: what do you want to be? Oh yeah, the car Doctor. 8 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 2: Well, here are what we ended up finding out. 9 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 1: We find out my friend that barbed the. 10 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 2: Car jumped his wife's car, and he hooked up the 11 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: jumper gave. 12 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: Us the wrong way. 13 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 3: Oh boy, and we assume deep ride the computer. 14 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: Welcome to the radio home of ron An Aanian, the 15 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 2: Car Doctor. Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car 16 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 2: owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on 17 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick. 18 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 1: Up the phone and call in. The garage doors are open, 19 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 1: but I am here to take your calls at eight 20 00:00:55,360 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: five five five six ninety nine hundred and now peers running. 21 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 1: Larry came to me a couple of weeks ago, and 22 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,199 Speaker 1: Larry's a longtime customer. At the shop, and we really 23 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: like Larry. He's funny and he's he's on point on 24 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: a lot of things, and you know, he understands car 25 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: repair to the point of why you do what you 26 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: do and why you have to do it the way 27 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,559 Speaker 1: you do it. And he said to me, you know, Ron, 28 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: and Larry's older. I've got to preface this. Okay, Larry's 29 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: retired now. And you know he came to me a 30 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: couple of six seven months ago and he said, you know, Ron, 31 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: I'm thinking of buying a classic car. Yeah, okay, I 32 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: can understand that. He says, I need something, you know, 33 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: something I can tinker with and you know, motor around 34 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: and you have some fun with. And I said, sure, 35 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: you what are you thinking of buying? Larry? He said, well, 36 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 1: the first car on my wish list is an old 37 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: school Corvette, like a sixty three split window VET. And 38 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: I was like, wow, Larry, that's great. I mean classic, 39 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: you know, talk about something that defined a generation. A 40 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: sixty three split window Vet, instantly identifiable, very clear what 41 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: you're driving, you know, great value. You've got to find 42 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: a nice one, he says. Yeah. He says, I've really 43 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: been looking hard and said I think I really found 44 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: a nice one. Yeah, because I knew there was a 45 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: butt here. You know, there's always a when they just 46 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 1: he said, but the guy also has this, and I went, 47 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: uh uh, he's also got this really cool sixty seven Volkswagon. 48 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: I went, oh, no, I don't know why it's with 49 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 1: you Vokeswagon people. You're all nuts. Danny's the same way. 50 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: My Danny's got an eighty seven VW cabriolet convertible, which 51 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: is up for sale by the way, if anybody's looking 52 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: for one. And he's now into a Toyota pickup truck. 53 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: But Larry was just like, oh, this Volkswagon is so 54 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: cool and you got to see it and it's a 55 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: great you know, they did a nice restoration and YadA. 56 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 57 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. Needless to say, he bought the Volkswagon. I'm not 58 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: sure what prompted it. It wasn't money, it wasn't it 59 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: wasn't anything else other than he said that car really 60 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: talked to me. I don't know what the world's coming 61 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: to anymore when a Volkswagon speaks louder than split windows 62 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: sixty three event. But in any event, so Larry's been 63 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: motoring around in the car and yes, Tom, Danny's chick 64 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: Magnet is up for sale. Tom's asking me that the 65 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: Volkswagon's up forcill. Yep, it's just you know, he's into 66 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: something else now. But it's a nice car. Danny's Folkswagen's 67 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: a Q car. It's you know, if you're looking for 68 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: a convertible and it's a stick. They didn't make any sticks. 69 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,119 Speaker 1: This was a converted car made into a five speed stick. 70 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: I believe it's a five speed. But anyway, I'm with 71 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 1: my other story. See Volkswagen stories. Volkswagens just generate stories. 72 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: It's just so. Larry's car showed up at the shop 73 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: this week. He had some complaints. He needed an oil 74 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: change because he didn't know when it was changed last, 75 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: and the oil was really thick and black and ugly. 76 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: And it is a nice car, I have to say. 77 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: It rides really well. You wouldn't know it's a nineteen 78 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: sixty seven Volkswagon. You wouldn't know it's a nineteen sixty 79 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: seven anything. It holds the road really well, it tracks 80 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: really well. It's come and do for some tires and things. 81 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: Larry's going to go and try and find tires. He 82 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: wants to put thin white wall tires in a Volkswagen Beetle. 83 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: I mean, he's just I don't know he's going in 84 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: for a look. But he telling me all the stories 85 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: about how everybody waves at him and just oh, I 86 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: had a Volkswagon once, and I don't get it. I 87 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: just don't see the fascination. But in any event, the 88 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: horn didn't work. So, you know, Larry said, can you 89 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: fix the horn? And you know, I've got a couple 90 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: of lights out, and there's a couple of odds and 91 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: ends here and there, and he gave me the list 92 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: and we went through the list and we fixed everything 93 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: relatively basic, straightforward stuff, except for the horn. The horn 94 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: was the boondoggle. And it became that because the technology 95 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 1: is so old and it's so simple. You forget the 96 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: way Volkswagon did it back well, they probably did it 97 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: right up until they stopped making the beetle. Was there 98 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: were only two wires that powered the horn. There was 99 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: a hot lead came out of the fuse box down 100 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: that went down to one leg of the horn, and 101 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: then there was the ground leg. The ground leg came out, 102 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: came up to the steering column and it clipped onto 103 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: a spade terminal at the bottom of the sh steering 104 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: column and that was the ground leg. And then they 105 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: ran a wire down the center of the steering shaft 106 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: that came out and grounded to the steering coupling, all right, 107 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: and it connected there and then they expected that to 108 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: provide ground coming back up the column, so that when 109 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: you blew the horn, when the horn button made contact, 110 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: it completed the ground between the two brown wires and 111 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:32,799 Speaker 1: the horn should blow. Well, the problem is the vehicle 112 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: was restored, so now all bets are off. And you know, 113 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: one of the weaknesses of this car, and I see 114 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 1: this on a lot of Volkswagon restorations, frankly, is the 115 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: wiring harnesses. Really it seems like they're still using the 116 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: original harnesses, which isn't a big deal except that, well, 117 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: they should actually change it, in my opinion. And it's 118 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: not that hard of Volkswagon harness is all one piece 119 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: in sixty seven. It's just everything from front to back, 120 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: and there are reproduction harnesses out there. And now all 121 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: these wires are getting brittle and corroded and knocked about. 122 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: But they didn't have a lot of Larry's harness tucked 123 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: in place. It was in the wrong places. They ran 124 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: hot leads through grounded you know, push them into clips 125 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,799 Speaker 1: metal bent over clips that would ground it and possibly 126 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: cause a shorter or possibly cause a fire. And we 127 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: tried to correct as much of that as we could, 128 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: as much as what we saw. And in the end, 129 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: Larry's problem was simply the spade terminals. The two ground 130 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: lugs going to the base of the column, going to 131 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: the top of the column were loose. They were on. 132 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: They went on with tension, but if you wiggled them, 133 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: you could voltage drop across them and see the connection 134 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: go good to bad. And it was just a simple 135 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:43,799 Speaker 1: matter of take it apart, sand each spade terminal, clean 136 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: up each push on portion of the spade, tighten it, 137 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: put it on so it's now tight, and we coated 138 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 1: each one with a little bit of yellow grease to 139 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: prevent any future corrosion. And you know, it was so simple, 140 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: it was so simple. It was difficult, right, It was 141 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: such a simple fix. It was hard because you're looking 142 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: at where's the computer and where's the relay, and you know, 143 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: where's the four miles of wiring diagram. I printed out 144 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: the wiring diagram for this Volkswagen Mitchell. Thank god for 145 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: Mitchell and their older car section of wiring. I printed 146 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: out the wiring diagram for a sixty seven Volkswagen Beetle 147 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: out of their online section. Anybody want to guess how 148 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: many pages it takes for a Volkswagen wiring diagram nineteen 149 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: sixty seven? No, Tom too, It actually took two pages 150 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: front to back. Now they split it in the middle, right, 151 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: so you know, they split the pages. This is the 152 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: front half of the car. This is the back half 153 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: of the car. Today that's probably two hundred pages. And 154 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: it's just it's staggering how simple cars were forty five 155 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: fifty years ago. It really is, you know, I don't I. 156 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: I was telling Tom this before I went on air today. 157 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: I discovered a new TV show today. You ready, my 158 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: new favorite TV show, The Rockford Files. I never saw it. 159 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: I'd heard about it off and on, but I never 160 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: saw it, and I actually watched it today. Actually, before 161 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: we went on air, I was just scrolling around Amazon 162 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: waiting for the show to begin, and I started watching 163 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: The Rockford Files about an hour earlier. And the best 164 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: thing about that show, well, it's a good show. I'm 165 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: not saying it isn't. But one of the best things 166 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: about that show is the cars that are in it. 167 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: Holy caw. You look at the variety of cars and 168 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: a ton of oaks wagons. I noticed that right off 169 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: the bat. There's a beetle on every corner in the 170 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: Rockford Files. And that was California back in the seventies, right. 171 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 1: But the really fascinating thing is looking at the variety 172 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: of cars and the colors of the cars. Red, green, yellow, orange. 173 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: There was hardly a black car or a white car. 174 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: And look at what's out on the road. Everything today 175 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: is black, white, some cross section. Every once in a 176 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: while you see a blue or a yellow. GM's got 177 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: some neat colors in their truck line, you know, some 178 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: steel grays and some silvers, but not the one I'll 179 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: call the concophony, the mixture of bright colors that we 180 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: had forty or fifty years ago. I want to you know, 181 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: they say that's a sign of the times, right. You 182 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: can look at the color of cars that people are driving. 183 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: But just a look down memory lane, just a look 184 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: at where it was and how simple it was. It 185 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: was so simple, it was complicated, and Larry's happy. I 186 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: got to tell you. He got his car back, he's 187 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: got his horn. Beep beep. You know, he had so 188 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 1: much fun blowing the horn pulling out of the parking lot. 189 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: He's so excited. I never saw a sixty eight year 190 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 1: old guy drinking eat beep, beep beep. He's just thrilled. 191 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, it's like a kid at Christmas 192 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: driving his Volkswagon Beetle. And I'm thinking, I don't know, 193 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: sixty three Corvette's got to be way cooler. But what 194 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: do I know? I get it. You know, And this 195 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: is probably the biggest deal of this whole conversation, is 196 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: that old cars give us memories, and that's what makes 197 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: them so vital. They are an important part of American culture. 198 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: They are so vital to us. I don't think, and 199 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: I've said this to you before, and I've he said 200 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: it a lot of times. I don't think thirty or 201 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: forty years from now, where everybody's going to go. Man, 202 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: I drove the coolest twenty twenty three Toyota Camery in 203 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 1: the whole world. You're gonna say it was reliable, and 204 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 1: you're gonna say it was a good car, but you're 205 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: gonna also say it was too expensive and it was 206 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: just a car, And that says a lot about the 207 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: time period that these older cars came from. There was 208 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: a there was a mechanical sense that I think we're 209 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: all lacking, that we're all looking for. My friend Kenny 210 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 1: is giving up his twenty ten Ford Explorer and I'll 211 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: leave it here so we can move on. But Kenny's 212 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: gonna finally get rid of his twenty ten Ford Explore. 213 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: It's got one hundred and seventy five thousand miles on 214 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 1: it and the chassis starting to ride away from the body, 215 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: and he's like, yeah, I got to give it up. 216 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: He says, what do you think I should buy? And 217 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: we kind of went over the list, and you know, 218 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: he said it. He goes but you know, he says nothing. 219 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 1: He says anything up to this point that I've looked at. 220 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: He says, nothing's exciting. Nothing really, you know, makes me 221 00:10:54,880 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: feel good about climbing into It just becomes transportation. I 222 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: wonder if that's what we need. I wonder if we 223 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: need more vehicles that aren't so much just transportation but 224 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: just a sheer joy to drive. Food for thought. Car companies, 225 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 1: are you listening? Eight five five five six zero nine 226 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 1: nine zero zero eight five five five six zero nine 227 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. I'm running any in the car, doctor, 228 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. Little gto need advice 229 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: on how to maintain that classic gt O. 230 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 2: Ron is the guy eight five five five six zero 231 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: nine nine zero zero. 232 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 3: Here's Ron. 233 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 1: Let's let's answer some emails. The phone number if you 234 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: want to get in, by the way, is eight five 235 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: five five six zero nine nine zero zero. Keep in 236 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: mind that's twenty four seven eight five five five six 237 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero. That's twenty four to seven. 238 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 1: As I said, you can call, leave a message and 239 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: we will call you back and get you in the 240 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 1: qu for the next live broadcast. A little warm today, 241 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 1: so we may be light on phone calls if you 242 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: want to get in. I noticed T shirt sales went 243 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 1: up this week. That means everybody's getting ready for summer. 244 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,839 Speaker 1: So you know, if you want a T shirt cardoctorshow 245 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: dot com, click on the merchandise button. Let's let's let's go. 246 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 1: Let's here's one from Frank. Frank wrote in he said, Ron, 247 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: I've got a twenty eleven Ford Edge three point five 248 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: liters fron wheel drive. The brake pedal feels spongy. I 249 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: had the master cylinder replaced and the rear calipers replaced. 250 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: He bled the brakes, he used over two gallons of 251 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: break fluid, and he still can't find the problem. Can 252 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: you help sure, you know, and let me just cover 253 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: the bases this way, Frank, you know, is it? Is 254 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: it a case of you know, obviously there's no leaks 255 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: in the system, so you know, we got to work 256 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: our way out. There's no leaks in the system. He 257 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: put a master on it. He did rear calipers. I'm 258 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: not sure why. I'm were they leaking? Were they not 259 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: adjusting properly? This should be a vehicle with a parking 260 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: break built into the rear calipers, so they were prone 261 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: to leak. They were also prone to stick on the slides, 262 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: and that's important to note. And that hopefully the front 263 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 1: calibers are okay. So if if we want to say 264 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 1: that front calibers are good, back calibers are now good. 265 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 1: Because he changed the minutes, he did a master. There's 266 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: not much else this can be. If it was bled 267 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: properly and you've got solid fluid at all four wheels, 268 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you it's one of two things. 269 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,719 Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you. It's likely either the ABS 270 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: control unit needs to have a bleed done to it, 271 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: which requires a scan tool. Okay, there's a specific procedure 272 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: on how to do this where you will do a 273 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 1: you call it an initialization or call it an ABS 274 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 1: bleed where they will activate the ABS control solenoids and 275 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: valves and they will actually burp the air or any 276 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: air that might have gotten trapped in that unit. Or 277 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: it's a bad ABS controller and the hydraulic side has failed. 278 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: I've had this. I've had this issue more time than 279 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: I care to remember. Here's the scenario, an older vehicle 280 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: and I see a lot with Forge, but I've also 281 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: seen it on Toyota's I've also seen it on GM products. 282 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: So it's not just a Ford exclusive problem where you 283 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: will get a crumby brake pedal and everybody goes through 284 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: the basics. They think Master fine, they think they think calipers. 285 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: They see an issue, they'll start changing parts and they 286 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: never resolve it. Master cylinder is a good place to 287 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: start when you don't see anything, and I'll tell you 288 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: why in my experience, when the Master doesn't fix it, 289 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: that points even more towards the ABS control unit. Did 290 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: you change a master cylinder that didn't need to be changed. Nah, 291 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: not in my opinion, because I would be willing to 292 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: bet that because in your case, it's fifteen years old. 293 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: But I've also seen this on twenty year old vehicles 294 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: that the brake fluid is probably dirty. It's probably pretty 295 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: dirty and crumbings and scummy looking for lack of a 296 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: non technical for lack of a technical term, and it's 297 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: absorbed more more than its fair amount of moisture because 298 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: the system probably wasn't properly flushed as maintenance because break 299 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: bleeding and break flushing is an important part of the 300 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: maintenance schedule and has been for the past twenty years, 301 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: and the system corrodes internally. So what happens is you 302 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: get to the point where you say, hey, it's either 303 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: a master or an ABS control unit. How do you 304 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: decide which? I don't think you have to. I think 305 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: you're either going to do both. You know, first you're 306 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: going to try an ABS bleed, as I pointed out, 307 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: But when you're down to the components, it's either you're 308 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: going to do both. You're either going to do a 309 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: master in an ABS unit together, or you're going to 310 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: start with a master and when that doesn't fix it, 311 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: you're going to do the ABS unit. And I'll tell 312 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: you why doing that master first is so important. Most 313 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: of these ABS control units are between fifteen and fifteen 314 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: hundred and two thousand dollars. You're not going to put 315 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: an on average eighteen hundred dollars break system component in 316 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: a system if you can find one, right, because that's 317 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: the other part of this conversation. This is a fifteen 318 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: year old vehicle. I'd be I'd be mildly surprised if 319 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: for it still manufactures the ABS control unit for this, 320 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: all right, And you're not going to put that part 321 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: on If you've got dirty fluid from an older master, 322 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: and you can, you can flush that master all you want, 323 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: you never quite get it as clean as it needs 324 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: to be. And we're talking about grit and contaminant at 325 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: a microscopic level. So when you consider the price of 326 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: that ABS control unit, if you can find one, you're 327 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: just better off. Just you know, find if you can 328 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: find a master cylinder, and that's a whole other conversation, 329 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: put a fresh Master in it, fresh fluid, bleed it 330 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: out and do the ABS unit, and you should find 331 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: this to be fixed. Like I said, I would start 332 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: with an ABS bleed do it by scan tool. You'll 333 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: need to. And once you get that done and everything's 334 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: routed right, there's no leaks. You verified front calibers, you 335 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: verified real caliper's, proper parts, good hoses. You know it's 336 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: fifteen years old. Now you know it's it's going to 337 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: be an ABS unit and you're gonna be shocked when 338 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: it fixes it because it's just it's something you just 339 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: never stop to think of. That ABS unit is in 340 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: bypass mode. It's stuck in bypass and that's what's causing 341 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: the crummy brake pedal. And for the record, I've done these, 342 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: and when I do these, I will take the ABS 343 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: control unit apart and you'll never see anything. It looks 344 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 1: whistle clean in there. You know, there's not there's not 345 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: a lot of indicators as to why. But it fixes 346 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 1: it every time. It's one of those here's a classic 347 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 1: example of tell me what's good, I'll tell you what's bad, 348 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: and here's how we're going to fix it. Kind of 349 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: a thing. And you know, I've had it happened to 350 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: me more than a few times. In my career. We're 351 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: doing so and makes a great break pedal. And again 352 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: this makes the argument for doing a four wheel bleed 353 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: and flush every couple of years as part of a 354 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: maintenance package. That important, you know, especially when you see 355 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: the price of that ABS control unit. As I pointed out. 356 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: But before I go any further, I'd love to see 357 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: what parts are available and work your way out from there, 358 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: because if they're not, you've got to find parts on 359 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: the in case of before you get too deep into this, Frank, 360 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: I hope that works for you. I'm ron an Indie 361 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: in the car doctor. I'll be back right after this. 362 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: There's no need to ron an Inian is here. Absolutely, 363 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: that's what Ronan Inian does. He shows up and he 364 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: fixes cars. And let's keep going with emails. Phone number 365 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: once again, five six zero nine nine zero zero. Baseball 366 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: season must be in start. Everybody forgot about radio. Hello, 367 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: ron I have a friend who calls me regularly while 368 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,719 Speaker 1: he is having his two year old Toyota hybrid vehicle 369 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 1: service to a Toyota dealer in Chicago. Let me start 370 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: this again. This comes with from Dave. Hello, ron I 371 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 1: have a friend who calls me regularly while he is 372 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: having his two year old Toyota Hybrid Vehicles vehicles service 373 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,239 Speaker 1: to a Toyota dealer in Chicago, or as they say, 374 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 1: I'm married with children in Chicago. This one is his 375 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: wife's twenty twenty three Highlander with forty six thousand miles 376 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: on it. The dealer wants to do a coolant service. 377 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: I suggested not until sixty one thousand miles. But the 378 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 1: one I have a question about is they want to 379 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: do a coolant service for the inverter cooling system. What 380 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: knowledge do you have that I can tell him? Thanks 381 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: Dave and Norway, Maine. We'll look at this. We're going 382 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: from New Jersey to Maine to Chicago. Well, you know, Dave, 383 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: I question that it's a two year old vehicle with 384 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: less than fifty thousand mile on it, and the inverter, 385 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: to my knowledge, has the same Toyota Super Long Life 386 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: coolant in it that the rest of the cooling system has. 387 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: I would agree with you. Sixty thousand seems like a 388 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: reasonable substitute. They seem to be putting on a lot 389 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: of miles. Could just stretch that coolant life out to 390 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: the eighty to one hundred thousand mile mark. Sure, that's considered. 391 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: Toyota considers that ten year on hundred thousand mile coolant, 392 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: which I don't understand because after it goes that ten 393 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: year one hundred thousand mile cycle, then it's five years 394 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: or sixty. And I think because they're assuming or trying 395 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: to make us believe that the cooling system is a 396 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: little more contaminated at that point for miles in longevity, 397 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,959 Speaker 1: and they want a shorter coolant cycle. You know, if 398 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: it was me, I stayed at the five and sixty, 399 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: and I see cars go longer down the road, which 400 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: is what this is all about. 401 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 3: Right. 402 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: I still think manufacturers. I still think manufacturers alter maintenance 403 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 1: schedules to promote a no maintenance you know, Carnival breaks 404 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: it anything. And I'll believe that when they close the 405 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: service departments, which we know is never going to happen. 406 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: So I liked I like sixty. I would ask the 407 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: dealer why forty six thousand miles on it is? Is 408 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: it a slow day in Chicago. We've got nothing else 409 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: to fix, you know? Or did they did they do 410 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: some sort of a coolant test strip process, you know, 411 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: where we test stripped the coolant and we looked at 412 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: acidity and it came back with the highest city level. 413 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: Those things we did in missus Kluch's science class in 414 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: the tenth grade. We learned about a cidity and base 415 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: and pH and all that other nonsense. Of course, I 416 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 1: want to know why also two years, forty six thousand 417 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: miles on it is the coolant service under warranty? Because 418 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: what's the warranty on that vehicle? Is it is coolant 419 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: fluid service? Since there she looks if they look in 420 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: the owner's manual, and here's the point I'm trying to make. 421 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: If they look in the owner's manual, they're going to 422 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: tell them it's not at forty six thousand miles and 423 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: two years old. It's probably going to be at the 424 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: least five and sixty, but I believe it's going to 425 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: be ten and one hundred thousand miles. So the fact 426 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: that they want to do it after two years and 427 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: forty six thousand miles, is there a problem? Did the 428 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: coolant strip come back and show acidity? And if it 429 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 1: is acidic, why and is that problem under warranty? The 430 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: whole thing sounds fishy. Dave, All right, I'm gonna be 431 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: honest with you. It just it just doesn't make sense 432 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: unless they can tell me that. You know, they know 433 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 1: in Chicago for whatever reason. You know, because of the 434 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: environment the vehicle is operated in, because environment always plays 435 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: a role in how often a vehicle gets maintained or 436 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 1: how a vehicle gets maintained. Let me correct myself, how 437 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: a vehicle gets maintained. So I think that unless they 438 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: can support this, I think your friend's getting served the 439 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: bolooney sandwich at a dollar fifty nine pounds, and you know, 440 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,479 Speaker 1: I hope he enjoys the lunch because it doesn't make 441 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 1: any sense. I would opt for sixty thousand. But if 442 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: they're doing so many miles, you know, and if they're 443 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 1: going to get the sixty thousand next year, that's three 444 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: years and sixty thousand miles. I don't think the cool 445 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: has been in there long enough to get contaminated or 446 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: beat up again. I would I would revert to pH 447 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: testing using a cool and dipstrip, which is what we 448 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: do all the time in the shop when we have 449 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: our debts. You know, that one just doesn't make any 450 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: sense to me, buddy, So I would be cautious because 451 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: you might be spending money you don't need to spend 452 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: right now. Another one. Hey, Ron, I'm thinking of buying 453 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: a twenty twenty two to twenty twenty three Honda CRV. 454 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: We did the recall or they did the recall? Oh? 455 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: Did the recall? I'm sorry, I'm reading this wrong. Did 456 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: the recall fix the steering sticky steering issue or was 457 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: it just smoke? Are there other issues with this vehicle? 458 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: I think the sticky steering issue is fixed, and I've 459 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,239 Speaker 1: seen some good results with it. As far as what 460 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: Honda's saying, Tom's riding me Blooney's ten ninety nine pounds. 461 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: You know, you're probably right, Tom as I was expecting 462 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 1: that as I was saying that I'm saying, and I've 463 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 1: been telling that story that way for a long time. 464 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: It shows you how long I've been on radio. So 465 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: let's go with ten dollars. Look up, it's a local 466 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: grocery store. It's ten ninety nine pounds. Well, you know, 467 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: I'm thinking of the tariffs, right, that's the tariff price. 468 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: I'm pre tariff. So let's let's see what it goes to. Now, 469 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: fourteen dollars a pound for boloni? Yeah, yeah, I don't know. 470 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: We're getting served a lot of Bolognia. I think sometimes 471 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: I'm thinking of buying a twenty two Honda. Back to this. 472 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: Thanks for all of your advice, Bob. You know what, Bob, 473 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: I think there's not a lot else that I know 474 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: about with that CRV. They're pretty good cars, all right, 475 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: All kidding around the side, Let's go back to I 476 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: think Hand is a decent car company. I don't think 477 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: it's the car company it was ten years ago. I 478 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: don't think any car company is the company it was 479 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: ten years ago, because I think they were making better 480 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: cars in some areas and some aspects ten years ago. 481 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 1: And you know that things have changed a lot in 482 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: the last ten years. And you know, I think that 483 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: the electronics have complicated things. I think the degree of 484 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: electronics has made cars. You know, it's funny. I open 485 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: the show talking about more mechanical types of vehicles, and 486 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,959 Speaker 1: I think the electronics have made cars less mechanical. And 487 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: I think that less mechanical approach is affecting the quality 488 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: of the cars because there's there's so much you know, 489 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: the circumference of problems grows, the diameter of problems increases 490 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: with it, and it just becomes more and more difficult 491 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: to fix. I think whatever you buy, all right, whether 492 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: it be that Honda CRV or whether it be something else, 493 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: I would be more concerned. Can your mechanic, if you've 494 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: got an independent mechanic and independent shop, can he deal 495 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: with it? Or do you like the dealership that you 496 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 1: buy it from, are they going to deal with it? 497 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: What's their service department's rating? And by all means, because 498 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 1: of the electronics on that car, I would look into 499 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 1: and consider putting a service policy on it and develop 500 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: a relationship with that dealership because I think I think 501 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: the most important part about fixing a car today is 502 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: always has been the relationship. And you know, I think 503 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: that a repair shop, whether it says Honda or Bob's 504 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: Garage over the doorway, relishes that relationship if they're smart 505 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 1: and they maintain that customer and take care of that 506 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: customer and do what they're supposed to do, because you know, 507 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: it's it's about the relationship in business today as it 508 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: was yesterday and we'll be in the future. So just 509 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: just my two cents, buy it. If you like it, Bob, 510 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: just make sure the place that you're taking it to 511 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: get fixed can fix it, and you know, be aware. 512 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: So eight five five five six zero nine nine zero 513 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 1: zero eight five five five six zero nine nine zero 514 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: zero runnnading the car doctor. I'm back right after this? 515 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: Look back, aren't the car doctor? Let's go over to 516 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 1: Mike and Delaware. Mike, Welcome to the card doctor. Sir, 517 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: how can I help? 518 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 3: Hey? You going runs? Mike? I got a question. I'm 519 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 3: kind of like doing some upkeep on my ninety two 520 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 3: Ford Ranger, and I'm going to change the well it's 521 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 3: never been replaced fuel injection. And then while I got 522 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 3: the top intake plantum or in upper intake. All the 523 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 3: question is the reason why I hadn't taken off because 524 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 3: you couldn't get to the right bank. Uh, spark plug? 525 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 3: Why did they make eight eight spark slugs for four? 526 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,719 Speaker 1: Yes? Was that? Well? They they you know, the issue 527 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:45,360 Speaker 1: there is they couldn't achieve emissions firing one plug per 528 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: cylinder once, so they didn't. They didn't. 529 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 3: They didn't. 530 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,959 Speaker 1: They didn't have the technology for multi strike ignition like 531 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: they developed later on. Because if you noticed, that twin 532 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: plug per cylinder routine went away after a while because 533 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: they developed better ignition systems and you know, they could 534 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: they could move the technology inside the ignition module and 535 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: the computer and make it with electronics. So a twin 536 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: plug per cylinder set up will be more complete in 537 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: combustion and therefore put less pollutant out the tailpipe. So 538 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: you know, following I think somewhere around ninety four ninety 539 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: five that was gone by OBD two, that was gone 540 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: and that shows you the advancements in technology. But it 541 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: was all about emissions, Mike, That's what they were chasing, 542 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: you know, that's what they were chasing. So as always 543 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: that they're always chasing. 544 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 3: Game. 545 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 546 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, you bring back memories and you're a big inter. 547 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 3: You show you or your friend Bonum folkswagon. 548 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's that's go ahead. 549 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 3: Got another question on this ranger. I know to OBD one, 550 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 3: all I got is a code reader. It pulls up 551 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 3: the codes. Does the check engine light when you just 552 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 3: turn the ignition on and it's supposed to come on? 553 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: Yes, in bulb in bulb check Absolutely you turn that. 554 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 555 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,239 Speaker 1: If the vehicle's been sitting off any length of time, uh, 556 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: you know, and typically longer than thirty seconds, turn the key, 557 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: just cycle the key, but don't crank it. You should 558 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: see the check engine light as well as other check 559 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: engine as well as other dishboard lights come on. We 560 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: call that bulb check all right, Oh okay, so. 561 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 3: You know, like say the check engine, what did come on? 562 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: Then? 563 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 3: I don't even use the truck on the weekend. It's 564 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 3: it's my beat truck right now, right, And I noticed 565 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 3: I don't know if the ball went out on the 566 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 3: check engine lights instrument panel or what. 567 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: Well does the light ever come on at all? 568 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 3: Now? 569 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: Uh? It sounds like that. 570 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 3: And I got to take it through inspection in Delaware. Yeah, well, 571 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 3: good thing they don't have to plug it in. I'll 572 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 3: get on that year. It's a sniffer test. 573 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: Right yeah, right, Well, it may you know, if there's 574 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: something wrong with it. Let's let me say it like this, 575 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: that the check engine light is monitoring the emissions and 576 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: it's it's doing what it's supposed to do. So there 577 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: may be a problem in the truck that the dash 578 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: light would be on. You just don't know it because 579 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: the bulb is burnt out or it's missing. So you know, 580 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: I would run through keon engine off, keon engine running, 581 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: and continuous memory fault codes the old style forward tests, 582 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: and look to see does the system have any faults 583 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: in it. If the system has faults in it, then 584 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: at least you know what you're dealing with. If the 585 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: system doesn't have faults in it, it might behoove you to, 586 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: you know, pull the dash panel out, put a bulb in, 587 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: because I don't remember it being I think it's I 588 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: think it's a one ninety four bulb if I remember, right, Oh, okay, 589 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: you know, I don't think I don't think it's anything fancy. 590 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: And then you can at least have the indicator working 591 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: like supposed to, you know, in Jersey, in New Jersey, 592 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 1: as I think most states. If this was an O 593 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: B D two vehicle, if we cycle the key on, 594 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: we have to see a check engine light that's bulb test. 595 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: Otherwise that vehicle would fail inspection. So just be aware 596 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: of that before you go. 597 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 3: All right, yeah, I'm well, I'll listen to you every 598 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 3: every Saturday, mambe talking about the hubid ones you snap 599 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 3: on you calling it the. 600 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: Brick, the brick yep yep ye, which those you know, Mike, 601 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: those are those are available on you know, those are 602 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: available up on eBay and other places that you could 603 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: buy one of those and they'd be a great tool. 604 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: For that truck. Just make sure you get the ford 605 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: Eke adapters for it. They'll be shaped like that diagnostic 606 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: plug you have out under the out under the hood, 607 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: and you know that's a great tool for that vehicle. 608 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: And you can read. You can get those relatively cheap. 609 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: You can read data stream as well as trouble codes. 610 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: You know, if that's going to be something you're going 611 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: to be hanging on to for a while. So appreciate 612 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: the call, Mike. Always a pleasure to talk to you. 613 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: I'm running eni in the car. Doctor. I'm back right 614 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: after this, and here we are as we kind of 615 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: wind down this hour. Just one last thought for Mike 616 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: and Delaware. Mike, if you're still listening, you know we're 617 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: talking about your ninety two Ranger and you're getting it 618 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: ready for inspection in Delaware and they're going to do 619 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: a sniffer test. You may want to do this. You 620 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: may want to go out to CRC Industries dot com 621 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: take a look at CRCs Guaranteed to Pass a Missions 622 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: System cleaner. It comes in a twelve ounce bottle. It 623 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: is a very high solvent solution detergent cleaner for cleaning 624 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: older fuel systems. Works on newer ones too, But it's 625 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: what it strives to do is clean up catalytic converters, 626 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: carbon deposits and fuel deposits in the system. But it 627 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: will help to clean up older catalytic converters and restore 628 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: them to a better operating condition. You know, Mike, concern 629 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: with your truck is you don't have a check engine 630 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: light coming on, So are there fault codes in it? 631 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: As I pointed out during our call, So you know, 632 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: that becomes the priority. But if you can't, you know, 633 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: get the bulb to work, and if it doesn't matter 634 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: at this point and you don't have fault codes, but 635 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: you're just counting on the vehicle to pass on its own, 636 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: and I suspect there's a problem, which is why you 637 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: were changing the fuel injectors. Consider using CRC Guaranteed to 638 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: pass emission systems. They do offer money back guarantees. You've 639 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: got to use it, I think three or four times. 640 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: I forget what the footnote said, but you can find 641 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: it on their website CRC Industries dot com. And perhaps 642 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: that'll be a better way for you to go in 643 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: terms of getting through inspection. And you know, I can 644 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: drive that ninety two Ranger a little bit longer. You know, 645 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: it's hard right that we drive older cars and we're 646 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: trying to get them through because the next thing he's 647 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: going to run into, Mike is going to run into. 648 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: To be clear, is what parts are available for that 649 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: ninety two, ninety two, two thousand and two, twenty twelve, 650 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: two thousand. We thirty ago, you know, we're thirty years ago, 651 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:09,240 Speaker 1: you know, thirty three years ago. You know, there's probably 652 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: not a lot of quality parts left for a vehicle 653 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: that age. And the fact is to replace that little, 654 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: you know, small pickup truck, which, in all fairness, I've 655 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: got to tell you the Ranger. I still have my 656 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 1: eighty seven. What do I have? I have a ninety 657 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: seven Ranger. I'm sorry, my ninety seven Ranger. It's a 658 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 1: cute little truck. And you know, even the small trucks 659 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: of today are one and a half times the size 660 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: of that. So I kind of just I don't want 661 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: to get rid of it. Oh my god, have I 662 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: become a Volkswagen owner? Is Is it that bad? I 663 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: just I love it beyond the side of what it is. 664 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: Maybe I should fix the crooked bumper up front. The 665 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: bumper is bent on the Ranger. But that's another story 666 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: for another day on how that happened. So, Mike, if 667 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: you're out there, I wish you the best with your 668 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 1: ninety two Ranger and I hope you continue to enjoy it. Wow, 669 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: I think a Volkswagen owner. Oh my god, I'm not 670 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 1: an ady in the car doctor. I know that. I'm 671 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 1: here to remind you one more time. Like always, good 672 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. Let's see you, m