WEBVTT - From Gas Tanks to Wedding Bells 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:04.640 Hell I Suck at Dating with Dengler and Jared Haven. 0:00:05.080 --> 0:00:11.680 I heart radio podcast. Hey, welcome to help I Suck 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:14.200 at Dating. I think this is our second episode of 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:17.200 the year if I remember correctly. I'm Jared Haven, of course, 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:19.880 joined by Dean Ungler. Dean, how the hell are you? 0:00:20.160 --> 0:00:22.239 I'm just eating my cheesy poops over here? Jared, I'm 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:24.279 doing good man. Thanks. We had a debate before the 0:00:24.320 --> 0:00:26.760 podcast poofs or puffs? So let us know and help 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:29.080 I suck a dating Instagram? Where do you guys think 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:32.880 it's poofs or puffs? We're dying to know. We're dying 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:35.240 to know what the what the suck army thinks, whether 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:38.640 it's poops or pops. I'm a puff guy. I'm gonna 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:40.680 beat Jared to it. We got a very special episode 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:42.760 for you guys today. We have the one and only 0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:46.880 Mark hell Martin joining us. Um from where is it Again? 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:50.200 In rialto California. So, uh, he's gonna be co hosting 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:51.519 with us all day. You guys know how you like 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:54.560 to do it. Uh, And yeah, we're just gonna kind 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:56.080 of take it step by step. I guess it's a 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:59.160 new year, It's and it's a new uh year to 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:01.440 be thankful for in the podcast world, and I think 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:03.200 this is one of the best ways to have an 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:06.600 episode number two. So ste you just referenced new Kids 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:10.120 on the Block song nicely, Dundine, Well Marquel. First of all, yeah, Marquel, 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:12.800 markl Maren is here, ladies and gentlemen. Of course, Marquel 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:16.160 was on Andy Dorfman's season of the Bachelorette, and then Marquel, 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:19.240 you were on Bachelor in Paradise season one, if I 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:22.560 remember correctly, So how are you. I'm good, I'm good 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:25.440 those thanks for having me on, man and it's it's 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:28.240 nice to meet you, guys. I remember. It's nice to 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:31.119 you too. I remember you were like a little bit. 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:33.240 So first of all, you were on Andy Dorfman's season 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:35.839 of the Bachelorette, and then when you went to Paradise. 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:39.039 I remember, like the women got to call him crazy 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:41.760 for you a little bit because obviously Claire's the Bachelorette 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:43.640 right now, I remember her. It was like I think 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:47.039 Michelle Money, right though, they were like fighting against each 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:50.680 other for you. Yeah, yeah, Michelle. Michelle Money came on 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:54.080 like later. But I do remember if you're referencing kind 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:58.240 of like the beginning of the season. Yeah, that that 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:00.720 that was fun. Man. I felt like, you know, we 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:05.280 were just coming into a new world of the Bachelor franchise, right, so, 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:08.680 you know, come to see that, you know, Claire has 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:12.880 is with the Bachelorette. That's awesome to see. She's amazing person. 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:15.079 I still remember some of the stories that she used 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:17.519 to share. But as you guys know, it's just such 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:19.480 a fun experience to be a part of the franchise. 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:23.200 You know. So now regular Joe, you were an o 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:27.840 GEEP Bachelor in Paradise season one. Um, but that aside. So, 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:33.160 so you have made news lately because you're engaged. Yes, congratulations, 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:37.480 congratulations on the engagement. Uh, pardon my ignorance, but so 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:40.320 is the is the woman that you're engaged to, uh 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:42.280 from Bachelor or is it someone that you met out 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:44.440 in the real world? To give us an update? No, No, 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:47.359 just just old school, old fashioned, just a real world 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:52.800 you know, circumstance that's still a thing, huh. I know, 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:55.560 I feel like I meet more people that either meet 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:58.600 on like TV or like dating apps or something like that, 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:01.280 and there's no better, no words, just interesting to see 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:03.880 the dynamic of you know, where the world is today 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:07.320 with technology. Yeah, she was my neighbor. Um. I don't 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:08.799 know how much of the story you guys want me 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:10.360 to get into it. I want to hear the whole thing. 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:17.080 I love hearing, all right, Uh, fair enough. So, Um, 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:20.160 I I grew up in rialto California. I went to 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:23.480 go play football at NLB in Las Vegas. Uh So 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:27.320 I lived in Vegas for for twelve years and uh 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:32.200 launch short after after grad school at UNLV, UM, I 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:35.960 was a personal stylist, worked at UFC, and I was 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:40.120 just staying at my apartment complex. And you know, I 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:43.880 met my girl, my fiance, at my apartment complex. She 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:45.920 had ran out of gas. I took her to the 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:49.440 gas station. Um, and kind of the rest was history. 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:54.280 We we started exchange numbers, right, and she invited me 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:58.520 because her um, her brothers are up. Um a guitarist. 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:01.320 He used to play in the Guns and Roses. If 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:06.440 you go, h yeah, I thought you were gonna be like, oh, 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:08.360 they used to play in some sort of cover band 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:10.600 down the street. Uh. They would play at a bar 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:12.720 on Friday and Saturdays. No, you were like, oh, yeah, 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:14.560 they played in a band. What was that band called 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:17.920 Guns and Roses? Yeah, a little little known thing. Yeah. 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:21.760 Nor her brother is dj ashbak um or or not, 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:24.280 so he replaced Slash. I don't know much about rock 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:28.760 and roll at all, but that's concerts and stuff. So yeah, 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:31.559 that's how. And we we didn't start dating right away 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:35.359 at all, like I'm super super old school. Uh. And 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:38.159 I'll give you a lot of side conversations as we go, 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:40.360 so if you guys get lost, just I'll bring it back. 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:44.360 You know, my parents have been married since my mom 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:47.560 was sixteen and my dad was eighteen and and they're 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:53.240 still married married today, thank you. And you know, so I, however, 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:56.520 me growing up and wanting that aspiring to have that 0:04:56.560 --> 0:05:00.479 type of relationship, you know in Vegas, if know, I 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:03.159 tell everyone in Vegas like ages you by ten years 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:05.840 because it's so many people from all over the world. 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:08.440 It's the city of sin as as they as someone 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:11.960 call it, right, and me being there in my transformative 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:16.920 like like mature or trying to become a mature adult stages. 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:20.479 You know, I've you know, kind of kind of done 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:23.039 it all really, and I don't I don't say that 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.560 with a sense of pride. Let's say I feel like 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:27.560 those two things don't go together. It's like, you know, 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:30.560 I really wanted to become a mature, better human being. 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:35.440 So I moved to Vegas, right right, so right, so 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:39.080 around I was working at UFC at the time, and 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:42.120 I got a random phone call from the Bachelorrette because 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:46.240 because of my dating history was so terrible, I I 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:50.960 sucked at dating, right, Uh, I was that guy in Vegas. 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:53.480 I thought I was cool and and you know, college 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:56.760 football player, that the whole nine and uh, one of 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:59.080 my best friends she nominated me to be on the 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:01.800 show and she said, hey, you need a change of 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:04.240 pace and maybe you can find your love here because 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:09.000 you're certainly not finding success success in uh in Vegas. 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:11.279 And it wasn't. The women's bottle was definitely my fault. 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:16.440 Right So I at that same time, that's where I 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:21.240 met my fiance, Kerrie Um and she knew I was 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:24.640 going through the process of the show and we were 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:28.120 just friends at the time, so she was like supporting 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:31.720 me as a as a friend and she like hadn't 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:34.279 had cable and in her apartment and bought it just 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:38.040 to watch me on the Bachelorette. I come back, right, 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:40.480 you come back and you try to get acclimated to 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:43.880 the craziness and the social media. Social media definitely wasn't 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:47.800 as big as as it is now, right, Like, but 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:51.800 um so that was happening, and I think at that 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:55.719 point in time, that's where I saw a clear divide 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:58.320 of like, okay, I don't even claim it that it 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:00.719 was like you know, your five minute to famous, like 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:03.520 five seconds of fame at least that that I felt 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:08.000 of like the behemoth that is the Bachelor franchise. Right, 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:11.560 so you get girls coming out of the woodwork, and 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:15.320 you know, I I was, um, you know, just like 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:18.000 coming off like Okay, I'm just gonna go back to 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:20.520 my old self because the show didn't work out, and 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:24.720 she just stayed solid and steadfast throughout the whole thing. 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:27.560 And what it allowed me to have is this perspective 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:31.760 of Okay, I know what like Vegas Marquille was liking, 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:34.840 is right. I went on the show and and saw 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:38.360 kind of the romanticism of the whole thing and the 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:41.160 idea of potentially spending the rest of your life with 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:44.920 someone while at the same time you know it's not 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:49.880 working out, and coming back I just wanted stability. So 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:54.040 she was kind of like my rock in a sense 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:57.160 and one thing led to another and um yeah, I 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:59.120 don't want to bore you guys. Know, well, let's get 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:01.800 to that one thing to another. How did it change 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:05.200 from being friends to going to boyfriend girlfriend? Was it you? 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:07.240 Was it her? Was it mutual? You guys just made 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:08.960 out one night and was like, oh that was really good. 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:11.560 Al Right, Like that was cool, so we should do 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:16.640 that more often. Um So, what happened was where I 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:19.600 came back from the show. One of the producers of 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:23.320 the Bascharette was like, hey, we know you love cookies 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:25.920 because while I was on the show, I would always 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:28.800 eat cookies, right like they make sure cookies were there 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:31.720 because I just love them. And well, you don't look 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:34.800 like you love cookies. Good God, I wish I could 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:36.839 eat cookies and look like you. Damn it. I eat 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:40.160 cookies and I am not in good shape right now. 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:44.199 I'm Winter Jared. It's definitely I'm Winter Mark Hill. I'm 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:48.080 twenty pounds overweight, and it's just like the metabolism just 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:50.719 falls off a cliff. And plus quarantine doesn't know in 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:54.760 any favors. Um So I was I used While I 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:56.520 was on the show and we were filming, I would 0:08:56.559 --> 0:08:59.480 tell them like, yo, one day, when I retire, all 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:03.640 I want is the gourmet cookie lounge where it's like cookies, wine, milk, 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:08.199 uh tea whatever, but just in like a little speakeasy, 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:11.319 but for cookies, right, And they're like, no, you may 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:13.880 want to like start that sooner than later, Like you'll 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:19.080 you'll be surprised. So I come back. The social media 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:22.160 kind of blows up. People start recognizing you from the show, 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:24.760 and a guy had hit me up. I was like, hey, man, 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:29.240 like like I love your your thing with cookies or whatever, 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:31.959 like can I you know, can we you know, grab lunch. 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:34.560 So I told him about this business that I have 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:37.360 when I retire. He's like, dude, why not just do 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:40.680 it now? So I was like, okay, well maybe I 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:43.199 should just give it a shot and try to start 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:47.480 my own cookie business. Right. So that's what happened. I 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:52.440 this The chef of UFC was my chef, and then 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:56.640 the guy who I met became my partner, and Carrie, 0:09:56.760 --> 0:10:00.800 who was my friend, believed in me and my idea 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:04.680 and the concept and started helping out. So we went 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:08.280 from we did a cookie and wine tasting event at 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:12.439 um I like the Venetian Hotel and we went through 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:17.560 five thousand cookies in in thirty minutes. The most sold 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:20.560 out like booth, I have some I'll post some throwback 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:22.560 pictures so you guys can can check it out. But 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:26.120 uh yeah, like line was wrapped up. And so that 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:28.079 was like proof of concept where I was like okay, 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:30.800 and it was called social cookie. I was like, okay, 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:34.200 we're onto something because I wanted to pair cookies, um 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:36.640 with with wine because that was my thing to get 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:41.360 girls prior, like in common because I was broke right 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:43.840 in college and you're living in a dorm or sharing 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:46.720 the house with with with some friends or when I 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:51.000 got my first apartment by myself, I would invite a 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:54.960 girl over, bake some cookies, play some music, have some wine, 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:59.440 and then there you go. You know. Uh yeah that 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:03.120 that was my thing, you know. Um So anyways, that 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:06.240 concept was working. Carrie started helping me out. We ended 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:10.440 up going from just hey, doing private events. So okay, 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:13.120 the next step, let's see if we can start shipping 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:17.440 cookies online. So she she has a marketing background and 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:20.839 she's like the hardest worker on the planet, and uh, 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:23.320 she was helping me with that. We got a commissary 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:26.760 kitchen um in Vegas and started cooking out of the 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:30.400 Commissary kitchen and just as if we were getting our 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:34.160 certifications from like Nevada and everything about like the nutritional 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:38.120 facts to put on labeling and packaging. In that same month, 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:41.600 I found out that I had genetic heart disease. So 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:45.440 that was, um, you know, crazy, and that threw me 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:49.880 for a loop. And so because of that news, right, 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:54.800 we shut down the business. Um and you know, they said, hey, 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:57.679 you gotta get heart surgery, you know, because you can 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:04.000 die at any minute, uh working out or whatever. This was. 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:11.760 So I was twenty yeah nine, and yeah I was, 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:18.160 you know, in in tip top shape, right, you know. Yeah, no, Um, 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:21.080 I felt like I was again in my professional career 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:24.199 working at the UFC as as an exact there and 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:26.640 everything was great, and then to get that news was 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:29.080 like heartbreaking. Right. So I'm sure you guys, you guys 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:31.800 both you know, great looking guys and work out and 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:34.320 so to to have that throughout your whole life and 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:37.720 literally just play sports and them telling you, hey, you 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:41.719 can't work out, you can't you know, do this, do that, 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:44.559 your life's gonna change. I fell into like a little 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:50.440 mini depression and that again opened my eyes to what 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:55.679 a good woman is. Right. I was at a time 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:57.880 in my life where I was this young hot shot, 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:00.000 and then I felt like I was at a time 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:02.920 in my life where I was I was at the 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:06.800 bottom and I was and and to add on top 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:10.200 of that, that same no, two months later, after I 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:13.079 found out that I needed heart surgery, I got laid 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:19.880 off from UFC exactly, so don't for me. It was 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:23.679 a big talent agency in l A. Uh. They purchased 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:27.160 UFC for four billion dollars and they laid off a 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:31.079 hundred people um or more, and I was one of them. 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:35.000 Unfortunately because of redundancies. Uh, you know, it was no 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:37.000 one's ball. It was just that's that's the nature of 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:42.439 the businesses. So I was I was broke um because 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:45.320 I was jobless. Then I was told I had to 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:49.280 have heart surgery at at and I had to move 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:51.240 out of my apartment because I couldn't afford it. I 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:55.560 had to start getting an unemployment And again she was 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:59.080 just remained solid. And I've been with enough women over 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:02.160 my time. Again not not not trying to you know, 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:06.560 promote that, but that's all the clear difference. Most girls 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:10.240 would leave I mean, most girls would just like, oh, 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:13.120 you know, thanks, but I got to go back to 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:16.880 the club or this, and you're no longer hot because 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:20.520 you're gonna have heart surgery and that's not cool. And yeah, 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:22.760 so that's what made me like fall more in love 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:29.760 with her. But yeah, I say, between the cookies business 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:32.720 and the heart surgery, that's when we started, you know, 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:37.400 making out and saying, so, you guys, you guys have 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:41.000 been together for because if that all happened with Seen, 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:42.960 you guys have been at least dated for like three 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:46.160 plus years. Then yeah, yeah, so we we don't even 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:47.840 have like a day like you know how people like 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:51.200 have like those dating and we don't have that. We 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:55.160 kind of approximate and say five or six years because 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:59.560 that's how long we've known each other. But our relationship 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:03.240 you know, went from this friendship to more than friends 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:06.640 to what are we to write the typical stuff and 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:09.560 then it's just like, okay, no, we're solely committed to 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:11.800 one another. There was a there was a long gray period. 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:14.440 It sounds like where it was like, well, we don't 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:17.320 even identify as as a gray period, like we know 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:22.240 knew what we were to one another the outside world 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:24.880 it would look like a gray period, right right right? 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:28.440 Any any sense that makes sense? That makes sense. Well, 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:30.680 we definitely want to hear more about this, but before 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:32.120 we do that, we're gonna take one quick break and 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:34.480 then just jump right back into it. Uh So for 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:37.040 the listeners, state tuned and we'll be back with Marquel. 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:52.600 All right, we're back, okay, cool, Yeah, thank you, thank you. 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:55.240 You know this for years, I'm Getting'm getting pretty good 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:58.600 at it. So, by the way, bro, that's that's strong. 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:00.920 Oh yeah, thank you. Actually I was going to shave 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:02.640 it off today, but you know, I just get so 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:05.920 attached to it. I know it's hideous. What does it? 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:09.880 You know? She is very kind and she says whatever 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:12.160 makes me happy makes her happy. But I know, deep 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:15.360 down it it probably bothers her, like irritate her upper 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:20.360 lip um, because that looks like it would be you know, 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:24.960 some serious rash redness right there on the upper lip. No, yeah, 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:26.720 I can only imagine. I think she likes the fact 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:29.360 that I consistently change it up, so like I'll go 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:31.280 into the bathroom one day, come out and completely shaven, 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:32.600 and then I'll go back and like, you know, I 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:36.800 don't really stick to one thing. But but no, it's like, yeah, 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:39.440 it's very you just getting close to your day, it's 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:42.560 getting close to having to be cut um um. But 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:44.320 Mark L, thank you for sharing that story with us. 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:46.160 We appreciate it. So you did end up having heart 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:49.400 surgery then, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got a fiber latter 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:54.280 placed in. Wow. That's and you were saying it was 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:56.520 a genetic heart disease too, so it wasn't because of 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:59.720 all the cookies you're eating. No that sucks, man. I know, 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:02.240 like you're saying, like you're in tip top shape, you're young, 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:05.360 you're healthy, and then boom, just like that. It's scary, man. 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:07.359 But I'm glad to hear you're doing well. Glad to 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:13.800 hear you're engaged. That's super exciting. You just recently got engaged, right, yeah, yeah, 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:18.880 December nineteen. You know, obviously it's a was a terrible 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:22.320 monument this year for for everyone, and I just didn't 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:25.320 want to go out on a low note. So you know, 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:27.600 I was like, you know what, no matter what, I'm 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:33.119 doing this. The circumstances of quarantine and social distancing weren't 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:37.120 like the the best, but I was able to um 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:40.080 hit up some contacts that I had in Vegas. Red 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:43.920 Rock Casino hooked it up really well. Um some friends, 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:47.320 some um you know, helped set up the room and 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:50.879 then we drove out there from from Cali and uh, 0:17:51.240 --> 0:17:54.120 you know, I brought my parents and I flew her 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:57.159 parents out. So it was just a small intimate setting 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:01.840 in a suite and yeah, and said, yes, that was 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:06.320 a good thing. That's the I did. So when she 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:10.760 went there, and I'm assuming you proposed before you, like, 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:13.080 was her parents a surprised like, she said yes, and 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:17.240 then her parents popped out. No, nor her parents were 0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:20.400 a surprise. Like. So the way I set it up was, 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:24.680 I said, hey, we're gonna have dinner um with my parents. 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:27.399 But before we go to dinner, my fighter, because I 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:30.320 represent UFC fighters, I'm like, my fighters also here and 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:32.639 he's staying in the sweet let's go say hi. So 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:35.080 as we go into the suite, I had like rose 0:18:35.080 --> 0:18:37.639 petals on the floor and her her parents and my 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:41.040 parents were there. And as soon as she saw them, 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:43.520 she started like crying and she was shocked, like what's 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:45.760 gonna happen? And she turned around and now I was 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:50.639 on one knee. Nice. Yeah, but as far as I 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:52.119 mean over the past couple of years. It sounds like 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:54.280 might have even been the worst one. But that's great 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:55.680 that you're able to end it on a on a 0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:58.200 high note, which is good. And it's funny you keep 0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:00.560 you keep ragging on Vegas. But I was Jared and 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:02.359 I have talked over the past month or so. Caitlin 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:04.920 and I just bought a house out in Vegas, So hopefully, 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:06.720 hopefully you'll give us an inside line on some of 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:09.280 the good spots out there. Oh, congrats, we're at what 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:12.920 area in Summerland actually prettylose to Red Rocks Casino. Oh 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:17.119 someone is beautiful. Awesome. Yeah, I love that area. That's yeah, 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:19.040 we we know it's an older community, which I think 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:20.600 is probably gonna be good. You know, we're not gonna 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:23.160 be like in the Sinning since part of the city. 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:27.200 But uh, but yeah, we're excited. Um, but yeah, we'll 0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:29.080 moved there yet or is it just like an investment 0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:31.520 property you guys are going to Uh, we're it's gonna 0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:33.639 be a permanent residence. We are moving in aprils when 0:19:33.680 --> 0:19:35.760 the house is finished being built. It's not finished yet, 0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:37.560 but yeah, we're gonna stay in l A and also 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:40.320 spend time out in Vegas. Uh and who knows, maybe 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:43.320 stopping in Rialto on the way out. Yeah, for sure, man, 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:45.720 you know, whatever you need. I got a lot of 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:47.840 a lot of a lot of cool people in Vegas 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:50.200 and you're you're, you're, you're gonna love it. I'm sure 0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:52.439 you guys have been there multiple times. But yeah, I 0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:54.560 feel like when you're a resident there, you see a 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:57.440 different side of visas Vegas and you appreciate it more 0:19:57.520 --> 0:20:00.240 like as a resident you don't spend time in like 0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:03.080 the Sin City, like the Strip. You just are and 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:07.440 it's it's accessible. But outside of Vegas it's like amazing. 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:10.919 But it seems perfect for me because there's a lot 0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:13.840 of golf courses, there's great rock climbing, great mountain biking, 0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:15.679 great hiking, like all those things that I like to do. 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:21.480 So I love the Red Rocks over there. Yeah, Jared, 0:20:21.480 --> 0:20:23.720 I think we got some questions for Mark Hell, don't 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:26.199 we or some just some host general questions, right, we 0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:28.080 do have some host general questions that I want to 0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:29.560 get to Mark Hell. I do want to ask you 0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:31.960 one question though, So when I was on Paradise, I'll 0:20:32.119 --> 0:20:34.760 remember I was doing an I T M. As you 0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:38.040 guys know, they're in the moments, uh where I was 0:20:38.080 --> 0:20:39.800 doing this interview with the producer and you go into 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:42.080 room and you talk, and this particular producer won't see 0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:43.840 his name, but you guys both know him. He's the 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:46.440 producer you'd like sit down and like have three hour 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:49.880 conversations with. And I remember he brought up your name 0:20:50.480 --> 0:20:54.040 and he was talking about how I don't know how 0:20:54.040 --> 0:20:56.399 we got into this conversation, but he was seeing your praises, 0:20:56.440 --> 0:20:59.200 he loves you, and he was saying how he wanted 0:20:59.280 --> 0:21:02.880 you to be the bachelor. And I remember back then 0:21:02.920 --> 0:21:05.399 there was rumors about you possibly becoming the first black 0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:08.399 bachelor in the franchise. And so now that we have 0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:10.439 Matt James, who was the first black bachelor, what are 0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:14.440 your thoughts? How close were you to becoming the bachelor? Uh? 0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:16.560 And you know, what are your thoughts about the franchise 0:21:16.600 --> 0:21:20.840 moving forward? Yeah? No, no, no, first, Um, I I 0:21:20.960 --> 0:21:24.359 love to see that the franchise made that decision. I 0:21:24.400 --> 0:21:27.119 think they made the right decision. I think Matt James 0:21:27.160 --> 0:21:30.320 is gonna be a great representative of all the bachelors 0:21:30.320 --> 0:21:32.480 and the whole franchise and stuff like that. And I'm 0:21:32.480 --> 0:21:34.800 and me just not only as like an alum, but 0:21:34.880 --> 0:21:37.880 also just as as a as a black man, like 0:21:37.880 --> 0:21:40.240 like I love it, right, Like I don't. I don't 0:21:40.280 --> 0:21:44.120 subscribe to like say, hey, I'm like I watched every 0:21:44.200 --> 0:21:46.880