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Speaker 1: We discussed Victor one Biama's debut last night. Fifteen points,

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Speaker 1: five rebounds, one block, got in foul trouble and I

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Speaker 1: thought it was a pretty good debut. A lot of

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Speaker 1: eyes on that game standalone game. Mavericks, Luca Kyrie and

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Speaker 1: Victor one Biamas showed some promise, got a beautiful shot,

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Speaker 1: and it's just kind of, you know, you got to

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Speaker 1: get into that. What do you expect from me or

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Speaker 1: what do I expect from my self at the defensive

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Speaker 1: end and the offensive end. But I can't have him

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Speaker 1: get into foul trouble with trying to help out too much.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna help out. You're gonna be a you know,

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Speaker 1: rim protector. I mean he can be in the in

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Speaker 1: the paint and also protect on the three point line,

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Speaker 1: he has that much length. But offensively, I got to

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Speaker 1: have him in there, got to have him at the

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Speaker 1: other end and take advantage of a mismatch every every

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Speaker 1: single time down the floor, Luca had a oh, by

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Speaker 1: the way, triple double. Kyrie looked good as well, but

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Speaker 1: the story was Victor Wan Bayama. And here's Greg Popovich

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Speaker 1: summing up what he saw from his star rookie.

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Speaker 2: I think it was great.

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Speaker 3: One of the toughest things for a player is to

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Speaker 2: And that sort of thing.

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Speaker 3: So I thought his maturity showed even at a young

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Speaker 3: age where he came in with the last I think

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Speaker 3: seven minutes and just play. We ran some stuff for him,

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Speaker 3: he executed, or a lot of guys would have been

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Speaker 3: totally out of it by then because he, as you said,

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Speaker 3: we're in foul trouble and didn't get the rhythm. So

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Speaker 3: I thought he had a wonderful outing. Considering that.

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Speaker 1: Tim Duncan I think four years old or maybe five

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Speaker 1: years older when he made his debut. He had fifteen

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Speaker 1: Victor won Bayama because that size, that athleticism. He's nineteen

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Speaker 1: he's in great hands with Greg Popovich. He's already had

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Speaker 1: Tim Duncan and David Robinson. So the Buccaneers at the

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Speaker 1: a little spicy at the end of last hour, Seaton,

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Speaker 1: would you give the wording on the pole question as

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and we put up there who would you bet

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Speaker 4: on to make the Hall of Fame, Victor Wimbnyama or

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Speaker 5: All right, right now? Ninety one percent have Victor. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: not even close.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think the perception of Caleb Williams

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Speaker 1: he's still the same player, He's just on a team

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Speaker 1: that's not that good. I think he was he he

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: I go back to John Elway. His team never made

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Speaker 1: but you still knew what you had with John Elway.

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Speaker 1: He was going to be the number one overall pick

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Speaker 1: and became a Hall of Famer. Andrew Luck, Andrew Luck

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Speaker 1: can't miss great player. Injuries derailed that I have been

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Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer. And also when we look at

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Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame, baseball is really tough to get into.

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Speaker 1: Football pretty tough. Basketball not as tough because we're factoring it.

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Speaker 1: Imagine if football was just a football Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 1: it's the Pro football Hall of Fame. Imagine if we

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Speaker 1: factored in your college career, would there be guys getting

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't under the current standards. Here mean, Tim Tebow,

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Speaker 1: is he a Hall of Famer? If I bring up

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Speaker 1: his college career, you can argue it's best college career

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks ever had. Just Johnny Manziel get in because of

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Speaker 1: his college career. But basketball is the basketball Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: It's what you do in your entire career, not just professionally.

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Speaker 6: Yes, Martin, if it was the football Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 6: one name would be in for sure. Doug flute Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 6: Like he's not in a pro fooball Hall of Fame

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Speaker 6: because I think there's only Conny really NFL. But what

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Speaker 6: he did in college and the CFL. Yeah, and for

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Speaker 6: you know, eight minutes in NFL.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was ahead of his time. Flute was, and

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Speaker 1: he had a coach and Mike Ditka, who didn't really

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Speaker 1: like that Doug was five to ten. He didn't like

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Speaker 1: He just never found the right situation or a style

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Speaker 1: let's see if you can play my style in football.

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Speaker 1: Flutey coming out now. Offenses, offensive coordinators they would cater

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Speaker 1: it to Doug flute Yes.

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Speaker 7: Marv in Buffalo, Rob Johnson, he looked.

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Speaker 1: Like a quarterback, he did.

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Speaker 7: But Doug Flutey was a man. I mean that dude

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Speaker 7: was a boss.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Doug played like a quarterback. Rob Johnson looked like

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Speaker 1: that guy's good. I think, yeah, Paul.

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Speaker 8: Okay, since it's the Basketball Hall of Fame, right, it's

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Speaker 8: your entire career, right, Should this player be in the

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Speaker 8: Hall of Fame? Christian Lightner, Yeah he's not, but he

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Speaker 8: should be in the Hall of Fame. He's been out

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Speaker 8: of basketball for fifty seventeen years. What's the hold up?

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Speaker 8: And he was not an awful NBA player?

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Speaker 1: He played like fifteen years in the one All Star team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah he was.

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Speaker 8: It was a disappointing career in comparison to Coup.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, because he was. He's a top five college

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Speaker 8: What's the hold up?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't vote on these things.

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Speaker 8: Something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, see, should college count well only because it's under

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Speaker 1: the umbrella of the Basketball Hall of Fame. If they

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Speaker 1: a lot of guys who weren't in.

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Speaker 4: If you took away his college career and just did

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Speaker 4: fifteen years in the NBA and were like, hey, he

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Speaker 4: made one All Star game, that's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Oh, he wouldn't be a Hall of Famer, right, No,

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Speaker 4: But and you also wouldn't look at that careers be like,

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Speaker 4: hey man, you played fifteen years. That's great, But you

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Speaker 4: wouldn't look at it as be like, that's actually pretty

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Speaker 4: good career, you know what I mean, Like that wouldn't

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Speaker 4: even it wouldn't even enter the conversation. But he played

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Speaker 4: so well at Duke that you're like, I don't know,

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Speaker 4: this guy was pretty special.

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Speaker 1: He's one of the greatest players of all time as

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Speaker 1: far as college goes. Sometimes we get caught up with

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Speaker 1: that guy won a Heisman. Well what did he do

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. Well, he didn't pan out, but he

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Speaker 1: you know, when he played in college, he was great.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it feels almost disrespectful to NBA players to count

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Speaker 4: great college players in the same sentence because college basketball

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Speaker 4: is not even remotely close to the same level as

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Speaker 4: So to lump them together and be like, yeah, but

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Speaker 4: what he did in college. There were a lot of

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Speaker 4: dudes in college that were great. Terry Dehare was awesome

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Speaker 1: But do I do the same thing with coaching? If

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Speaker 1: you just coached in college, So that means Mike Skryzhevsky's

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Speaker 1: not in the Pro Basketball or the NBA Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 4: I would almost flip that actually, as if you could

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Speaker 4: it might actually be more impress But I think part

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Speaker 4: it for twenty thirty years is very impressive. A kid

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yes, Marv, is there a college basketball Hall of Fame?

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Speaker 6: Because if there is, yeah, there is, Okay, I think so,

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Speaker 6: then he's not in Maismith.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a college football Hall of Fame. Isn't

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Speaker 1: that in South Bend? Didn't they move that.

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Speaker 8: It used to be they moved it down to Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: I thought, oh, okay, so it was in my hometown Mason, Ohio,

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Speaker 1: King's Island area, and then they moved it to South Bend.

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Speaker 8: There's a college Basketball Hall of Champions which is more

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Speaker 8: of a museum, and they do put college guys in specifically,

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Speaker 8: but later is an extreme example. Like, he's the most

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Speaker 8: extreme example of a guy whose college career was impeccable,

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Speaker 8: you know, first ballot, and his NBA career was average, yeah,

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Speaker 8: but not bad. Like if he doesn't go in, who does?

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Speaker 8: Because I would to have his career than Yao Ming's

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Speaker 8: oh yeah or two. I'd rather have his career than

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Speaker 8: quite a few people that are NBA Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 1: But it's easier to get in with basketball because it

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Speaker 1: does encapsulate what you did in college, if you played

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Speaker 1: in Europe, and what you did in the NBA. Baseball's

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Speaker 1: really hard. We've had Hall of Fame elections where nobody

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Speaker 1: got in, or one guy get and Bruce Souiter hall

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Speaker 1: of Famer, and that's it. So you got to have

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Speaker 1: a minimum of ten years football. Football's tough too, and

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys waiting, waiting, and they'll continue

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Speaker 1: to wait. We're just talking about Sterling Sharp. Sterling Sharp

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Speaker 1: is a Hall of Famer. Sterling Sharp when he was playing,

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Speaker 1: he was as good as any wide receiver. He was great, great,

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Speaker 1: Then an injury cut short his career.

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Speaker 8: Yes, I believe Sterling Sharp had a better career in

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Speaker 1: That's what paul He should have said if he truly

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Speaker 4: maybe if he plays well this one game, maybe two games,

431
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Speaker 4: that he might get a chance somewhere else. I just

432
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Speaker 4: don't know that people are clamoring for. Like, ah, that's

433
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 4: the same we've been waiting for. Did you see what

434
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Speaker 4: he did against the Bengals?

435
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Speaker 8: Not today, not before the start, in two weeks, let's.

436
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Speaker 1: Say he played, so Pauli is ahead of the story.

437
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Speaker 8: Yes, right, The best thing that happened to Sam Donald's

438
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 8: not to play eight games and play average, is to

439
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 8: play two games and play well and get right back

440
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Speaker 8: to the bench as fast as you can.

441
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Speaker 1: But if I'm the Niners, I don't want to let

442
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Speaker 1: him go because I'm not quite sure about Rock purty

443
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Speaker 1: health status moving forward. He's not a big guy, and

444
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Speaker 1: maybe you want to keep Sam Donald for the insurance

445
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Speaker 1: policy here, Yes, Marsh.

446
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Speaker 6: Does this start another quarterback CONTROVERSI like, oh, Sam Donald?

447
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Speaker 7: Or does this? You know?

448
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Speaker 6: Keep up with the narrative that a anybody could play

449
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 6: quarterback for the forty nine is good?

450
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Speaker 5: Yeah, See, there's a huge problem with this story.

451
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Speaker 4: Massive It's called week nine.

452
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Speaker 5: That's their bye week.

453
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Speaker 4: So that means that Sam and now Brock party has

454
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Speaker 4: to be out for at least three weeks for Sam

455
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Speaker 4: Darnald to get two games in. Also, it's Bengals by

456
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Speaker 4: Bengals by Jaguars. That just feels like a story that

457
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 4: unfortunately I wish it was going to be written.

458
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Speaker 5: But man, does it feel like it's not going.

459
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Speaker 7: To be okay?

460
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Speaker 8: One game, three touchdowns, sixty bye week, all the buzz

461
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Speaker 8: of the bye week, it'll be all about Sam Darnald

462
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Speaker 8: for two weeks.

463
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Speaker 1: Well, party's in the concussion from you know, the protocol.

464
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Speaker 1: He's in the protocol.

465
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Speaker 4: He might completely ball against the Bengals, and then that

466
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Speaker 4: bye week is spent creating the quarterback controversy that then right.

467
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Speaker 1: Pauldy was so excited this morning and we were all

468
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Speaker 1: shooting it down. I was like, no, no, listen to me.

469
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Speaker 1: Two games he could get, he could get like a

470
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Speaker 1: sixty million dollars contract, you know, three years, and we

471
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Speaker 1: go no.

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Speaker 8: This is based off NFL history, though, teams do this

473
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Speaker 8: all the time, right or wrong. They Scott Mitchell played

474
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Speaker 8: like three games for the Miami Dolphins and got a

475
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Speaker 8: zillion dollars from Detroit.

476
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Speaker 1: Who is Matt Flynn.

477
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Speaker 8: Matt Flynn with the Packers, he didn't even start. They

478
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Speaker 8: gave Russell Wilson the gig.

479
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Speaker 7: Yes, Rob Johnson.

480
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there's some stupid front office people there. You go. Man,

481
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Speaker 1: Did you see Matt Flynn ball out against the Lions.

482
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Speaker 2: Uh?

483
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Uh we're gonna he threw for four hundred yards.

484
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Speaker 1: We're gonna bring him in. So the organization that is

485
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Speaker 1: credited for Gino Smith and drafting Russell Wilson Junior the

486
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Speaker 1: third also has to be blamed for bringing in Matt

487
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Speaker 1: Flynn as well, Greg Seattle Seahawks, and now you brought

488
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Speaker 1: in Genos. So now they're back to being that's a

489
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Speaker 1: brilliant organization.

490
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Speaker 2: Yes, Paulin.

491
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Speaker 8: Gino Smith went from a stop he was no longer

492
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Speaker 8: a starter. At age twenty five, he basically sat playing

493
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Speaker 8: here and there. He started three games in seven years,

494
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Speaker 8: and he got the big contract, big ish contract, not

495
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Speaker 8: the big one, but the medium contract.

496
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Speaker 7: Last year.

497
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Speaker 8: He threw thirty touchdowns last year seventy percent, led the

498
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Speaker 8: league in percentage, and at thirty two years old, got

499
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Speaker 8: another big Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's wild, great story, great story.

501
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Speaker 5: Not a lot of Geno Smith's out there though, are

502
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Speaker 5: you sure?

503
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Speaker 4: I mean people who like, at thirty years old got

504
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Speaker 4: the mediumsh biggish contract.

505
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Speaker 8: Alex Smith is a good example, though, Alex Smith, and

506
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 8: he was a first round pick, a lot of expectations.

507
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Speaker 8: He was very eh with the forty nine ers, and

508
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 8: he had that injury year and he kind of got

509
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Speaker 8: it back together and then they stumbled into Kaepernick and

510
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 8: bailed on him, and he dropped right in the Chief's

511
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Speaker 8: lap with a good.

512
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Speaker 4: Team and then they bailed on him too for the

513
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Speaker 4: next whole real quarterback.

514
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Speaker 8: Yeah, and Alex Smith because of all that goodwill he

515
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Speaker 8: built up with the Chiefs Washington game Mozillion.

516
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Speaker 1: It's like you have the girlfriend and you go, yeah, yeah,

517
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Speaker 1: I really like her, and then all of a sudden,

518
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Speaker 1: you have the girlfriend and you go, no, no, I

519
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: really love her. It feels like Alex Smith was always hey,

520
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 1: I really like him, and then somebody else would come

521
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Speaker 1: along and go, oh, I really love her.

522
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Speaker 5: I don't think the NFL pays goodwill. I really don't.

523
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Speaker 4: I really don't think if they did, running backs wouldn't

524
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 4: be like, Hey, what about us?

525
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 5: What about all the good will? I built up? Running

526
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 5: good will?

527
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Speaker 4: You know, busting my ass for the last three years

528
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 4: and getting my head crushed in how about that goodwill?

529
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Speaker 1: No see you later.

530
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Speaker 5: There's another guy right behind you.

531
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he needs to get that bell that you're ringing goodwill,

532
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: you know, just bringing it there, big bucket over here

533
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 1: to put your donations in. What Paul?

534
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,199
Speaker 8: All right, let's get it out of the way now then,

535
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 8: because we got to do it for the result. Because

536
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 8: if Sam Darnald has three hundred yards and three touchdowns

537
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 8: this weekend, it's too late. What will Sam Darnald be

538
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 8: doing next year for a living?

539
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 2: And where?

540
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Speaker 8: Backup starter? And where which one? Backup or starter.

541
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Speaker 1: Or backup San Francisco.

542
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Speaker 4: Back up for starter or where that's the new segmenta.

543
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Speaker 8: Starter those sponsors get those sponsors.

544
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we need a battery, you know, like startup, backup

545
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: starter or aware backup r starter?

546
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Speaker 5: Awhere, back starter.

547
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 1: Away Marvin sam Darnold.

548
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Speaker 6: Next season, it'll be a starter for a game in

549
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Speaker 6: San Francisco.

550
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 2: Okay, next season? All right?

551
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: So he's going to be a backup who gets a

552
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: start next year?

553
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 7: Oh? Yeah, absolutely?

554
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 1: And you gotta play the game. Are you listening?

555
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 7: I'm here?

556
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: He could just play one game and then he doesn't

557
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: play anymore.

558
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 7: He'll be a backup in San Francisco.

559
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 2: Okay, and he gets one start and one.

560
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 9: Start Tod back up San Francisco at least two starts.

561
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: Raise you a start, Seaton O'Connor.

562
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 4: Oh man, it's almost impossible to predict this kind of

563
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 4: thing because who the hell cares?

564
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 8: But yeah, yeah, I know sports radio conversation for good

565
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Speaker 8: sports radio.

566
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Speaker 4: Conn I'm gonna say, you know what, he's gonna be

567
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 4: starting for the Falcons.

568
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 5: That's Paul's thing.

569
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Speaker 1: That that had to be, Paul, did you take Atlanta?

570
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold starting in Atlanta?

571
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 4: No, he'll be backing up somewhere, maybe the forty nine ers,

572
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 4: maybe somewheres else.

573
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 2: What about you point.

574
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 8: It'll be the starter for the Minnesota Vikings.

575
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 2: What wow, that is odd.

576
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:08,959
Speaker 8: They may have an opening.

577
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 4: That's I think they rather have Kirk Cousins or Sam Donald.

578
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 4: Now our three poule questions, Oh, you want KIRKT.

579
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 8: Cousins for one fifty for three years.

580
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins is going to be the quarterback with the

581
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Speaker 1: Vikings next year.

582
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 2: I think they I think they bring him back.

583
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 8: Uh.

584
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 2: Yes, Marv.

585
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 7: Is paully related to Sam Donald.

586
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 8: Not technically, no, no, not yet.

587
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 5: We're all brothers, we're all human.

588
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, a couple of phone calls in here.

589
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell happened today. Uh, Wendell

590
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: in Music City.

591
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 10: Hi Wendell, Hey Dan, good talk to you again, Happy Thursday.

592
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 2: Well thank you?

593
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 10: Yeah, third time caller nine to three quarter.

594
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: Hand hands, Yeah, yep, yep.

595
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 10: I was gonna call it in when you started talking

596
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 10: about all the potential of these young athletes and the

597
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 10: expectations and got me thinking even before the last poll

598
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 10: question was up about Kata Willims. Got a pie the

599
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 10: face challenge to any of the guys. Here we go.

600
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 10: I'm not an expert on all things USC, but looking

601
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 10: at Kta Williams, if he's not taking in the top

602
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 10: if he is taken in the top three spots, he

603
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 10: will not win ten games in the NFL as a

604
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 10: starter before he deemed a bust.

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Speaker 1: So we're already calling him a bust that he won't

606
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Speaker 1: be a quarterback on a ten win team. Is that

607
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: what you're saying, Wendell.

608
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Speaker 10: He won't win ten games as a starter before he's

609
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Speaker 10: deemed a bust.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, that is a complete bust. Anybody want a

611
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: piece of Windell?

612
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's a nice four year from now, bet I

613
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 8: love us.

614
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll be retired. We won't be doing the

615
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: show and we'll never hear from Wendell.

616
00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 8: That's GUTSI though.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

618
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Speaker 1: Luciano in New York, Luciano, welcome back.

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Speaker 11: Good morning couple. Marvin Peace came, what up said? And

620
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Speaker 11: to the good fellas, Todd Seed and probably what's it about?

621
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Speaker 2: All right?

622
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,479
Speaker 11: Dan, this is why you get the big bucks here

623
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 11: on this one. All right. So it's important before you

624
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 11: make this ruling that I articulate just how visceral fillings

625
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 11: are with their brothers amongst each other with this argument,

626
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 11: because yesterday it led to a pretty nice little dust

627
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 11: up and some fists were throwing. And this comes up

628
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 11: pretty much every year when this particular player starts to

629
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Speaker 11: play at a certain level.

630
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: Wait, guys were fighting at the barber shop.

631
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Speaker 11: Couple of fists, I said, And just in case you're wondering,

632
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 11: don't worry about I give the guy a terrific beating yesterday,

633
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 11: so you don't even have to worry aboudy all right.

634
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 11: So for the last five years, this has become a

635
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 11: problem when this particular player starts to play at a

636
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Speaker 11: certain level. So I need you to answer not just

637
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 11: who's the better quarterback is or was, but the more

638
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 11: electrifying quarterback Lamar Jackson or Michael Vick.

639
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: Who is more electrifying? You know what, We'll take a

640
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: break and then we'll come back and we'll because I

641
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: don't know if it's a oh, that's the obvious answer there,

642
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: So Luciano will will Man. It led to fisticuffs there.

643
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: They were throwing punches. Yeah, more phone calls coming up.

644
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: You imagine you're at the barber shop. Well, the barbershop

645
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: is different, you know, in a black community, barbershop is

646
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: where you just go and you get to have these arguments.

647
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: You get a haircut maybe, or you might just hang

648
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: out sometimes.

649
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 6: Hey, mister Jones, what are you doing here? I'm just

650
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 6: hanging out? Yeah, like I hate my wife.

651
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 7: Oh, okay, you too, hang out.

652
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if you say that out loud, that

653
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: you hate your.

654
00:31:58,320 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 7: In the barber shop.

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Speaker 1: Oh you can't. It's a monks just men o kay, Yes,

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Speaker 1: Tod closed fist.

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Speaker 9: Punch or attacked with scissors in the barbershop, which is

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Speaker 9: worse because they have some things at their disposal that could.

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Speaker 1: Be what would you rather not have?

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Speaker 5: This is the one time Todd opened his mike today

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Speaker 5: and it was for that.

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Speaker 1: You haven't said a word and you know no, you

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Speaker 1: didn't say anything even when I went to you an

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Speaker 1: hour ago and you lost me two minutes my train

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Speaker 1: of thought. Yes, I missed the moment.

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Speaker 4: Well, Todd, why don't we ask you? Would you rather

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Speaker 4: be attacked with a closed fist, punch or scissors.

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Speaker 7: I'll take the.

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Speaker 2: Punch, of course, you would.

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Speaker 8: Makes my Sam, makes my Sam Darnald b look fantastic.

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Speaker 8: I mean my Sam Darnald but is crushing now.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Todd. Don't talk to you at the end

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Speaker 1: of the shop.

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Speaker 7: Grief.

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Speaker 1: I like when you lose your thought. You know your

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Speaker 1: train of thought? There, Okay, we'll come back. We'll discuss

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Speaker 1: that more electric Lamar Jackson or Michael Vick and more

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Speaker 1: of your phone calls after this. Thanks for listening to

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Speaker 1: at Freddy's in streaming now in Peacock coming up this Friday.

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Speaker 1: Fritzy has a problem with five Nights at Freddy's. Why

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Speaker 1: do you have a problem with that title?

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Speaker 9: Because there's a select few scary names in horror movies,

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Speaker 9: and why would you use Freddy that people think it's

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Speaker 9: related to Freddy Krueger Krueger movies, or you know, you

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Speaker 9: got your Michael Meyers, your Freddy Krueger's, your Chucky's, your Jason's,

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Speaker 9: there's like a billion other names really got to go with.

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Speaker 1: This isn't related to Freddy Krueger.

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Speaker 9: I don't believe it is Okay, it's like animals that

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Speaker 9: come to life at like a Chuck E Cheese.

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Speaker 2: Kind of place. Animals come to life at Chuck E Cheese.

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Speaker 8: If that was the name of the movie, I'm going yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think it's a video game that they've made into

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Speaker 4: a series that's kind of a popular trending.

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Speaker 2: Now, okay, five nights at Freddy's.

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Speaker 1: Who's been to Chuck E Cheese?

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Speaker 2: Holy long time?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all of us?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like at some point I must have. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I can't put my finger on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I went, if you're a good enough parent, you're

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Speaker 1: going to Chuck E Cheese at least once.

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Speaker 8: Because she went by himself though I did.

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Speaker 7: I was like, where's the ski ball? I don't think

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Speaker 7: the ski ball was working that day?

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Speaker 1: No, there's that big pit of plastic balls that you

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Speaker 1: can jump into.

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Speaker 7: Who's a kid in there?

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Speaker 2: You can? You can't.

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Speaker 1: But you need to have a child if you're going

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Speaker 1: to go to Chuck E Cheese.

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Speaker 7: Godd yes, yes, technically you have.

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Speaker 11: No.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a law, Is it really? I think so?

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Speaker 2: I think so?

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Speaker 6: Yes, Marv uh you your sentiment is exactly okay, No,

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Speaker 6: just go there with the kid.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but the love of God, please.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, all right.

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Speaker 1: Chris Sims will join us coming up a little bit

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Speaker 1: later on Brent in Ohio. Hey Brent, thanks for holding

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Speaker 1: What's on your mind today?

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Speaker 11: Five five.

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Speaker 13: I was listening to the show podcast yesterday afternoon. I

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Speaker 13: heard you mentioned at the beginning that perhaps Michigan was

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Speaker 13: under the spotlight because they're playing really well this year.

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Speaker 13: They're highly ranked. Everybody has them in their in their

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Speaker 13: playoff projections. But I want to say future Chicago Bears

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Speaker 13: head coach Jim Harball film maintains he's got no knowledge

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Speaker 13: of this scheme, but little stat When Harball took over

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Speaker 13: in twenty fifteen. From then through twenty twenty, they were

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Speaker 13: twenty five and twenty five against the spread in the

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Speaker 13: Big Ten. Since the beginning of the allegations, which are

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Speaker 13: supposed to have happened in twenty twenty one, through now,

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Speaker 13: they've gone seventeen and five against the spread, beating Vegas

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Speaker 13: by almost nine points per game. So begs the question.

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Speaker 13: While they're highly ranked and playing well, could they conceivably

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Speaker 13: possibly maybe perhaps be playing well because they know every

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Speaker 13: play that everyponent calls ahead of time.

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Speaker 1: I don't know We're going to find out. Thank you, Brent.

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Speaker 1: Certainly seems like somebody is out to sabotage Jim Harbaugh

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Speaker 1: and in the process sabotage Michigan. This almost feels like

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Speaker 1: it's Jim Harbaugh related that this is happening. Jim says

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Speaker 1: he doesn't know what's happening. There's so much information, there's

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Speaker 1: great reporting on this every single day. It feels like

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Speaker 1: there's something that's happening. But I don't know how it started,

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Speaker 1: Like where did it originate? Where somebody goes, hey, you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm hearing, and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: somebody's hearing, and then somebody's investigating, and then something comes

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Speaker 1: to light.

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Speaker 2: And it just.

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Speaker 1: Feels like somebody is out to make sure that this

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Speaker 1: gets out. And I don't know if it's somebody inside Michigan,

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Speaker 1: a booster, a disgruntled you know, booster, somebody coach. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Feels like something this has to come from.

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Speaker 1: I think somebody inside. That was my feeling. Now I

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Speaker 1: don't have any information on it. It shouldn't even be

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Speaker 1: speculating like that, but it just feels like somebody's got

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Speaker 1: this information and then leaking it out now other schools

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Speaker 1: claim that they knew that Michigan was doing this. But

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Speaker 1: now we're starting to get more detail, like real detail here.

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Speaker 1: And most of these schools, you know, they they clamp everybody,

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Speaker 1: you know, their mouth shut, like nobody says anything if

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Speaker 1: anything happens at Alabama or Georgia some of these ohioys. Now,

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Speaker 1: no one's saying anything about anything, right, all right, But

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Speaker 1: there's just too much information that's been leaked here.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: We did have Luciano, the barber shop owner, who said

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Speaker 1: that this is a very serious topic and fists were

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Speaker 1: thrown yesterday at the barbershop in Brooklyn. So he asked

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Speaker 1: the most electrifying quarterback, Lamar Jackson or Michael Vick. Let's

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Speaker 1: go around the room. Now, of course Michael Vick his

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Speaker 1: career is over, but Lamar Jackson is maybe in the

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Speaker 1: MVP conversation again this year, Todd, I'm gonna start with you.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna still go with vic.

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Speaker 1: All right, Michael Vick, Seeton O'Connor.

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Speaker 5: Oh man, uh.

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Speaker 4: I feel like the older part of me wants to

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Speaker 4: say Michael Vick because he was earlier to do it.

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Speaker 4: But I find myself tuning into Lamar Jackson more than

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Speaker 4: I did when Michael Vick was playing. Okay, so I

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Speaker 4: think I'm gonna say Lamar Jackson as much as it

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Speaker 4: hurts my heart to say, Hey Marvin.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna go Vic. I think his highlight package is

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Speaker 7: bar nine.

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Speaker 2: All right, seaton O counter puny.

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Speaker 8: I'm also gonna go Vic even though he was a

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Speaker 8: subpar passer and compared to Lamar Jackson, but from breakaway

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Speaker 8: touchdowns making people miss lowering his shoulder at times, Vic

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Speaker 8: I would go off the board and throw out Randall,

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Speaker 8: cutting him as well.

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Speaker 2: But Vick, Yeah, yes, Marv.

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Speaker 6: And I think there's certain plays that you never forget,

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Speaker 6: even like you were saying he's a subpar passer, but

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Speaker 6: there's the pass of Monday Night Football where he just

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Speaker 6: throws it eighty yards to Shaun Jackson, like the first

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Speaker 6: play of the game on Monday Night Football, and then

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Speaker 6: just the runs were just insane.

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Speaker 4: So Satan, I feel like Lamar Jackson is a better

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Speaker 4: Michael Vick than Michael Vick. And but you don't get

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Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson without Michael Vick being there first. But I

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Speaker 4: think Lamar Jackson does Michael Vick better than Michael Vick.

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Speaker 4: Did I think Michael Vick is more electric. I think

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Speaker 4: Lamar is a better quarterback, but I think Michael Vick's

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Speaker 4: more electric.

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Speaker 1: And then that's two different topics. It's like Vince Carter

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Speaker 1: was more electric than Grant Hill, but Grant Hill was

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Speaker 1: a better basketball player. I think that sounds logical, right,

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Speaker 1: But I'd say Michael Vick and Michael Vick when he

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Speaker 1: first started, we had not seen that.

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Speaker 5: What did you just say about Grand Hill?

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Speaker 1: That Grant Hill is a better basketball player than Vince Carter. Yeah, oh, okay,

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Speaker 1: when when he's healthy, when Grant Hills healthy, if only Yeah.

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Speaker 5: My brain turns into saying that, into saying Michael.

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Speaker 1: Jordan, but then that no, no, it wasn't Michael.

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Speaker 5: You know when I hear Vince Carter, I think of greats.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he wonderful, changed the game, wonderful, electric, electric, he's electric,

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Speaker 1: multi dimensional. Timbo in Cincinnati, I'm Timbo.

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Speaker 14: Stay their first time, long time, five ten, two ten,

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Speaker 14: Dad Boughs. Yeah, I just want to thank you guys

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Speaker 14: for what you do in the program. Recently, I've come

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Speaker 14: down with what I'm calling retirement like symptoms, and so

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Speaker 14: listening to the show on the podcast.

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Speaker 1: How about how about Timbo retirement retirement like symptoms? Okay,

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Speaker 1: I hope I never get those.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, hopefully these intermittent retirement will be ending soon. I

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Speaker 14: wanted to give a quick shout out to my alma

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Speaker 14: mater just down the roads. I'm the former home of

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Speaker 14: the College Football Hall of Fame. My Milford High School

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Speaker 14: Eagles football team finished their season undefeated and they're hosting

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Speaker 14: their first ever Division One playoff game this weekend. Just

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Speaker 14: to make a quick comment on the Fix there web

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Speaker 14: the on a show. I tuned in last night, probably

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Speaker 14: the first time I've watched an NBA game for Christmas,

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Speaker 14: and it was really impressed by his debut. Definitely lived

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Speaker 14: up to the hype, as did Derek live Leave, the

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Speaker 14: second from My Blue Devils, who was picked about tens

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Speaker 14: bucks behind him. He actually had a better stat line

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Speaker 14: last night, and Kay went the Lynn, so that was

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Speaker 14: also impressive for most of those two youngsters. It's really

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Speaker 14: good for the game.

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Speaker 10: In terms of how.

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Speaker 14: Victor will change the game. I think he may change

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Speaker 14: the viewership patterns because people will definitely turn the tune

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Speaker 14: in to see him. I don't know that he can

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Speaker 14: live up to the hype about changing how teams play well.

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Speaker 1: I thank you, Timbo. Uh. I like when somebody says

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Speaker 1: a quick comment, then it's not quick. Come on, Timbo,

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Speaker 1: let's go, let's go. Come on, retirement, It's already happened.

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Speaker 8: Timbo is a nickname, right, Jimbo.

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Speaker 1: Chris Sims will join us. I'll ask him the Michael

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Speaker 1: Vick question more electric and also the Sam Darnold situation.

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Speaker 1: Man Polly loves this sim dirtle possibility. Here two hours

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Speaker 1: in the books, and we have one more to go.