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Speaker 3: Hey, everyone, welcome back to On Purpose. Today. I'm sitting

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Speaker 3: down with global superstar Nick Jonas, singer, songwriter, actor from

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Speaker 3: solo It's Like Jealous and Chains to chart topping anthems

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Speaker 3: with his brothers, Nick has continually evolved both personally and creatively.

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Speaker 3: Nick is said to release his fifth solo album, Sunday

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Speaker 3: Best out February sixth, twenty twenty six, and intimate project

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Speaker 3: reflecting his life as a husband, father, and the purpose

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Speaker 3: he's found beyond the spotlight. Please welcome to On Purpose

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Speaker 3: Nick Jonas. Nick, it's great to have you here. Finally.

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Speaker 3: I feel like I've been waiting this moment.

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Speaker 2: Long overdue, and that intro was amazing. Thank you. I'm

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Speaker 3: I always have to say to my guest that you

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Speaker 3: mean You've done thousands of shows since you started performing

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Speaker 3: as a young kid. I was so lucky. I got

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Speaker 3: which was amazing. A few years ago we were just

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Speaker 2: You were on tour.

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Speaker 3: I was on tour for three shows out of like

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Speaker 3: And Joe Mett? Do you know what's crazy? We met

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Speaker 3: I even met him in New York, which is then when.

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Speaker 3: Was it's every Sunday or Yeah, it was like every

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Speaker 3: Saturday or Sunday he would decide Zen Zone and then

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Speaker 3: lasted seventy five weeks. Incredible, It's unbelieva.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, married people, Vanessa and Carl and then and then

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Speaker 1: Honestly, it was great to have you were some really

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Speaker 3: I've seen so much of what you've done. But this

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. If someone said today, Nick, you're shy,

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00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 3: your moody, you're the creative one. What would you How

440
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 3: would you react to that?

441
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 1: I would say, you're right to some degree, But I

442
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 1: don't know. You sit and break bread with me or

443
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 1: have a drink, you'll see pretty quickly that.

444
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,199
Speaker 2: I like to have a laugh, you know.

445
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 1: I am thoughtful in the way that I respond to

446
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,400
Speaker 1: questions and the things that come out of my mouth,

447
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 1: I know, bear consequences or bear fruit. Right, there's there's

448
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 1: good to be had. There's also times that you say

449
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 1: a thing you didn't mean to say, or you make

450
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,679
Speaker 1: a joke that doesn't quite land right, and you know,

451
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 1: you fall flat on your face, and we've all had

452
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,119
Speaker 1: those moments. Two things can be true. I can be

453
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 1: the person I was as a team where I was

454
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 1: given that label, but I can also evolve and become

455
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 1: this other sort of more dynamic person that I strive

456
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:50,119
Speaker 1: to be.

457
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, I'm glad you said that. I feel like

458
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 3: when we were at dinner, you was the one sparking

459
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 3: off really thoughtful conversations and like, you know, getting us

460
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,439
Speaker 3: all kind of like discussing something interesting, and I'm like

461
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 3: and hearing you say that, I mean, I think about

462
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 3: my experience in a much more smaller way than you.

463
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,199
Speaker 3: But I've always felt that, like because of what I

464
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 3: do for work and because of my who I am online,

465
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 3: which is who I am, it's just a part of me.

466
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 3: I have to feel Everyone's like, oh, well, Jay takes

467
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 3: life really seriously and he can't joke around and I'm

468
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:21,679
Speaker 3: like my friends who know me the best know that

469
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 3: all I want to do is banter and like rip

470
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 3: into someone because that's who I am behind the scenes,

471
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 3: and that's who I truly am. And obviously that isn't

472
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 3: It's not that it's misaligned with my work. It's just

473
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 3: we're all these three hundred and sixty degree people. But

474
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,479
Speaker 3: because we watch everyone for thirty seconds on a TikTok

475
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,919
Speaker 3: or a real you kind of become this very simplified

476
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 3: version of yourself.

477
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so true, and that there are times now

478
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 1: I feel like I watch back certain interviews that I've

479
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 1: done in the past, and I try not to be

480
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,400
Speaker 1: ultra critical of myself.

481
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 2: I am, we all are, I feel like, but.

482
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 1: I sort of have this yearbook that lives out in

483
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 1: the world world, you know, and I can't kind of

484
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 1: control that.

485
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 2: That's just part of the thing.

486
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: But I often will watch back interviews and go I

487
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 1: can see where I was like projecting what I wanted

488
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 1: people to think of me, or you know, I'm withholding

489
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 1: a hot take or an opinion that I think might

490
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 1: get me in trouble. I've been fortunate enough to have

491
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 1: not misstepped in my life to in a way that

492
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: would limit my ability to continue to do what I'm doing.

493
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 1: We are all capable of making mistakes, and I feel like,

494
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: you know, having the world get to sort of see

495
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: into to my my life has been both wonderful and

496
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 1: also really frightening at times.

497
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

498
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: So I try to live honestly and just you know,

499
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 1: lay it out for people now because I think it's

500
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 1: just waysier to connect. And so to your point about

501
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 1: the dinner conversations, I love the freedom of having great,

502
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: in depth, intense conversations with friends and having a laugh

503
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: as well, and getting more and more comfortable fully being

504
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 1: myself for the world to see as well.

505
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. I like the way you put it though. It's

506
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,239
Speaker 3: like the world has access to your yearbook. Yeah, and

507
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 3: that's a really interesting way to think about it based

508
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 3: on what you just said. Actually, I wanted to pull

509
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 3: out a lyric here that I had from Yeah. So

510
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 3: you were just saying there that often when you look

511
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 3: back at your interviews, you can look back and we

512
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 3: can be critical or negative. And you write in your

513
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 3: new single, gut Punch, I'm going to read your lyrics

514
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 3: back to you. If that's okay. You said hit me

515
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 3: like a gut punch. I hurt my own feelings. How

516
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 3: did I get so good at being mean to myself?

517
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 3: I should turn the eat down, tell myself to chill out, tim,

518
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 3: I really hate the way I talk to myself. Now,

519
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 3: what would it be like if I just tried to

520
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 3: be nice to the person that I'm seeing in the mirror?

521
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 3: If you find that inner child, haven't seen him for

522
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 3: a while, let him know he's doing fine. And I

523
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 3: feel like, like when I hate hear that, I'm like, yeah,

524
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 3: I can, I can relate to it. You've got a

525
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 3: lot more material to kind of be critical of yourself

526
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 3: for that's visible to other people as well. When did

527
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 3: you first become aware of the inner critic that was

528
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 3: so strong? Like, when did you start to recognize Wait

529
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 3: a minute, I can be quite hard on myself.

530
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 1: I think after I was diagnosed with type one diabetes,

531
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: a major shift happened in my life where I never

532
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: believed that I did anything to get diabetes. For those

533
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: that don't know, type one is an autoimmune disease. It's

534
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: not the same as type two, which can be caused

535
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: from a number of things, but porting habits lack of

536
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 1: exercise would be sort of the main cause of type two,

537
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: whereas type one, your body just decides it's going to

538
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 1: stop making insulin naturally, and so then your glucose levels

539
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: are it's not possible for them to be in range,

540
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: which has a number of major side effects. And I

541
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: think the biggest misconception which I've I've tried to be

542
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: a part of, you know, educating people on because I

543
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: know it's really an education issue and there's no bias

544
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: per se, just people don't know that it can be

545
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: deadly if it's not treated. So when I reflected, you know,

546
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: this is when I first started doing therapy in my

547
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: early twenties, on kind of the way in which I

548
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: handled living with this disease, I became very critical of

549
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: how serious I was taking it, or even the opposite

550
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: end of that spectrum, which is am I taking it

551
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: too seriously? You know, at that time, there's a lot

552
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: of a lot of noise made about it because I

553
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: was sort of the only public person talking about Type

554
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: one in this way as an advocate, and I became

555
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: really discouraged by some of the feedback. This was the

556
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: first time I recall feeling and I'm going to use

557
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:56,959
Speaker 1: a big word here, and I don't mean for it

558
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: to sound so intense, but feeling trade by people in

559
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: the sense that I wanted to just be a normal

560
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: kid like everybody else and not be dealing with this thing.

561
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to make a meal out of it.

562
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: I'm just sharing my truth about this, and it was

563
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: made to feel like, oh, he's making too big a

564
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 1: deal and it's not that serious. And so I became

565
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: very critical of like everything I was doing in that sense,

566
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: whether I was doing enough to manage it or not enough.

567
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,719
Speaker 1: And then later on, you know, in my life, I

568
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 1: was met with a situation where I really kind of

569
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: fell flat on my face, not literally, but that would

570
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: have been better actually than what happened. But I had

571
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: a TV performance where this guitar solo moment that I

572
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: was supposed to play as a feature on a Kelsey

573
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: Ballerini track just didn't happen, Like I went blank, I

574
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: hit a bad note.

575
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:49,479
Speaker 2: Then I couldn't kind of recover.

576
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:56,239
Speaker 1: And I had built up this this skyscraper of you know,

577
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: this idea that music and being a musician was my

578
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: whole life entity, and it was unimaginable how how important

579
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: that was to me. For that skyscraper to stay standing

580
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: and not have any cracks in it or anything.

581
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 2: And I had to sort of relearn who I was.

582
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: If you took this thing away, it'd be like taking

583
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: my singing voice away?

584
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 2: Who am I? What do I do?

585
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: And it was just a really tough season in my life,

586
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: and everything I did after that, I was just incredibly

587
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: critical of myself. And then I started to do that

588
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: thing where you you make the joke before others can

589
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: you sort of you think it's already in the room

590
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: before you arrive, so you have to and no one

591
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: was thinking about it. And that's been true a number

592
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: of times in my life where I feel like something's

593
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: happened that didn't go the way I wanted it to,

594
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: and that everyone's talking about it, and so there's that

595
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: wrestle of like am I am I just a narcissist

596
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: thinking that this is as important everybody else? And then

597
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: it's just a cyclical thing. And so the gut punch

598
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: lyrics were really important to me because it's the first

599
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: time I've been able to say this thing that I've

600
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: felt for a long time. And it wasn't until I

601
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: got to the bridge where I wrote that line my

602
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: coros and song are amazing and really allowed for me

603
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: to be this honest. I felt kind of similar to

604
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: the way I do with you, which is that I

605
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: can speak more freely because you've created the environment for

606
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,479
Speaker 1: me to do that feels welcoming and warm to that.

607
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: And they did the same thing, and I just started

608
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: talking about you know, I said, I think my hair

609
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: stopped growing? Is that even a thing? I haven't lost

610
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: any of it, but something ain't the same. Maybe it's

611
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: a metaphor is even that deep? I think my hair

612
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: stopped growing?

613
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 2: Or is it me?

614
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: And it was sort of like a poem that I

615
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: had wrote in the mirror that morning, and it was

616
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: funny at first made me chuckle, and then I realized

617
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: when we got to that or is it me part, like, Oh,

618
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: that's what it's about.

619
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 2: Like I actually was prize that I was.

620
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: I was willing to be that honest a thing maybe

621
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: I didn't want to say out loud anyway, got to

622
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: the bridge and that that lyric is my favorite on

623
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: the album, which is about the Inner Child, because I

624
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: feel like, as I mentioned before, that kid was fearless

625
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: and he was just doing it and I'd love to

626
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: spend some time with him again, because I admire his grit,

627
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: his fearlessness. I feel like I've reverted to like factory

628
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: settings or something, and maybe I need to I don't know,

629
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: but he's cool.

630
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 3: Thank you for going there. It's so fascinating to me

631
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 3: that we first judge ourselves for mistakes or things that

632
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,959
Speaker 3: we call mistakes. Then we judge ourselves for judging ourselves,

633
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 3: because then we're like, wait a minute, why am I

634
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 3: judging myself for judging myself? That makes me even worse. Yeah,

635
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 3: and now you're like three judgments deep on judging yourself

636
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 3: for feeling shame and guilt, and then judging yourself for

637
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 3: the fact that you're judging yourself for having shame and gilt.

638
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 3: And it feels like a very everything you just said

639
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 3: feels like a very real emotion that each and every

640
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 3: one of us can resonate with. Right I'm sure everyone's

641
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 3: listening right now, can go Yeah. I've had moments like

642
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 3: that when I didn't feel like I did the right thing,

643
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, everyone had a viewpoint

644
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 3: on it. And whether you have the world watching you,

645
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 3: or you have your ten friends or twenty friends in school,

646
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 3: watching you proportionately, it feels the same, you know, and

647
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 3: it can be so challenging. And when you're saying that

648
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 3: out loud to me, I'm like, what would you say

649
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 3: to that younger self now if you could spend some

650
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 3: time with him? And what would you not say to

651
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 3: that younger self if you could spend some time with him?

652
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 2: Yeah? I would.

653
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: I would, well, just to sort of wack to one

654
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: thing you said, please, Yeah, I got this music and

655
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: these stories and that they're all human experiences. It has

656
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: nothing to do with it being specific to my life

657
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: other than it's you know, my wife and daughter that

658
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: I'm talking about or other situations. But I really wanted

659
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: to make something that everyone could relate to in their

660
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: own way.

661
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 2: That's one thing.

662
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: And then the thing I would say to my younger

663
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: self is, you know, congratulations you get to marry Prianka

664
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: Chopra Jonas.

665
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 2: That's pretty cool.

666
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: And also, you know, your daughter is incredible. She's just

667
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: she's magic in every every sense of the word. She

668
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: just turned four a couple weeks ago. Blows my mind.

669
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,239
Speaker 1: You know, I look at her and I can I

670
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: can see her future, Like I just know she's going

671
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: to do amazing things, and I'm all struck that I

672
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,479
Speaker 1: get to experience her magic.

673
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 3: That's beautiful, man, I love hearing that. That's especially when

674
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 3: a happy Blaid birthday. Yeah, thank you, that's so beautiful.

675
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 3: I can see that got you a little Yeah, for sure,

676
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 3: what's going through your mind.

677
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: No, she's she's just perfect in every way, and every

678
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: parent says that. But uh, you know, this morning I

679
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: was actually at her new preschool to sort of be

680
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: back there in the context of being a dad, you know,

681
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: just a wild thing, and you know, she she came

682
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: to the world under sort of very intense circumstances which

683
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: I've not really talked about ever. We were expecting her

684
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,959
Speaker 1: to arrive in April for the year she was born,

685
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: and we get a call that it's going to be sooner.

686
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: So we we basically you know, went into action, and

687
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 1: she was born via surrogate, and so we got to

688
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: the hospital and she came out. She was one pound

689
00:34:51,200 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: eleven ounces and you know, purple basically they these angels

690
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: at the nick. You kind of necessitated her in that moment,

691
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: and you know, got her taken care of really quickly

692
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 1: and intubated and everything else.

693
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 3: And so.

694
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 1: Because it was COVID times. My wife and I would

695
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: basically do twelve hour shifts at the hospital for three

696
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: and a half months. I can still sort of like

697
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: smell it, you know, there's always visceral things. It's it's

698
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: it was both comforting and frightening to be there every

699
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: day and to see sort of other families going through

700
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 1: similar situations. But she fought every day for three and

701
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: a half months and you know, slowly started to gain

702
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: some weight and after six blood transfusions, she was she

703
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: was doing great, and.

704
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 2: You know, we got to take her home after three

705
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 2: and a half months. And I feel like she knows

706
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 2: how she entered the world and what that first chapter

707
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 2: of her life was like, and so every day is

708
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 2: a gift and you can actually feel it on her

709
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 2: in the way that she behaves and how exciting everything is.

710
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:12,919
Speaker 2: I don't know.

711
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: How much she remembers, probably nothing, but spiritually I believe

712
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: that there's gratitude in her and.

713
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 2: You know, she's incredible.

714
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 3: I mean, thank you for sharing that with us, as

715
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 3: I feel like that's the behind the scenes that no

716
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 3: one has a clue about, and you know we're not

717
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 3: aware of and talk to me about the conversations that

718
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 3: you and Priyanka having, because I think the part that

719
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 3: people forget when you have a child that's going through

720
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 3: any sort of difficulty is that you're obviously worried about

721
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 3: the child, But then it also affects the relationship with

722
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 3: your partner because you're both worried about the child. What

723
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 3: were the kind of conversations you were having that was

724
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 3: helping you both and supporting you both.

725
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: We had a lot of tough conversations day and day

726
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 1: out about caring for her, trying to care for each

727
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: other and for her, and focusing on not getting overwhelmed.

728
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: It can all just feel so big, and parenthood in

729
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: general is is it's a lot for everybody, you know,

730
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: especially in those early stages of kid's life. And this

731
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: just became about staying emotionally tough and being there for

732
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: each other. If you need to to cry, you know

733
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: that shoulder is there and ready to cry on. If

734
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: you need to just have a laugh for a minute,

735
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: just to take your mind off, try to provide that

736
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 1: for the other person. It's a lot of give and

737
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: take from both of us. And you know, my my

738
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: wife is just as as you know, she's a brilliant,

739
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: brilliant woman with a ton of heart and perspective, and

740
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: the way in which she handled it was so inspiring

741
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: to me. And uh, you know, allowing for those those

742
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: days to be tough, but to be tougher for our

743
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: little girl was the focus.

744
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 3: Was there something you'd share with other couples who go

745
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 3: through their own version of that that you think would

746
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 3: be really helpful to them.

747
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 2: The thing that helped us the most was being patient

748
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 2: with each other. It is hard sometimes when you're feeling

749
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 2: emotional to sort of access that logical brain to say

750
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 2: we need to be patient. We need to just meet

751
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 2: your person where they are in that moment and that

752
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 2: that goes both ways, and so you know, being patient

753
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 2: with your partners is crucial.

754
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can imagine those twelve hour shifts back to

755
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 3: back for three months felt like they lasted forever. Yeah,

756
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 3: I can feel like it didn't feel like three months.

757
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 3: It must have felt like it's never ending.

758
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 1: Well, it's not the kind of thing that you ever

759
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: want to find a routine doing, you know. It's it's

760
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: bizarre when you're when you're used to going to the

761
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 1: hospital every day. You know, it's it's all like a

762
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 1: tough reality check when that she had to be kept

763
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: in Yeah, she was in the nick You for three

764
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: and a half months.

765
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, so.

766
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: You know, just driving there and back each day and

767
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 1: seeing each other sort of as passing ships, was a

768
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:21,439
Speaker 1: crazy thing. And I'll just say this about the nick

769
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: You nurses. They are truly angels. And we've you know,

770
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: seen a few at some of our shows. Priyanka spoke

771
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: about this experience once before in an interview, and so

772
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,240
Speaker 1: some people knew. And so there was some nicky nurses

773
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: at a couple of shows and they was hold up

774
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: a sign and it makes me cry every time I

775
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,919
Speaker 1: see it because they're they're angels. And we actually got

776
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: to have some of the nurses that were taking care

777
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 1: of multi Marie come out to a show and I

778
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: met them after or sorry, just before, and it was, yeah,

779
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: incredible to see and I got to show them a

780
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: foot of her. Now she's she's no longer one pound

781
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 1: eleven ounces, beautiful, healthy, little four year old girl.

782
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 3: I love that. Has she been out to see some

783
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 3: of you?

784
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, she she loves our song love Me to Heaven.

785
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 1: She sings at the top of her lungs and basically

786
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 1: she's got the bug already. She wants to be on stage,

787
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: and so pre oncast to stand side stage with her

788
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: holding her dress back so she doesn't run on the

789
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: stage with us. She doesn't quite understand that that you know,

790
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: she she can't join just yet, but I'm sure she

791
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: will someday.

792
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 3: Yeah. I love that you spoke about how you know,

793
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 3: you congratulate your youngest self for marrying for dress, which

794
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 3: I love. And I think you guys have been married

795
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 3: for what seven years now? It's seven years years? And

796
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you because your relationship is so special,

797
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 3: even even from the outside in and for those who

798
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 3: don't know you, I think everyone you know loves that.

799
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,959
Speaker 3: What did you know from the moment you met?

800
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 2: Like?

801
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 3: Was it that early and that clear? Is it one

802
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 3: of those if you know you know when you know you.

803
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 2: In some ways?

804
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 3: You know.

805
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: I was first kind of introduced to Prianca by way

806
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,280
Speaker 1: of seeing her billboard on Sunset Boulevard for her show Quantico, and.

807
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 2: I was like, Wow, she's stunning, That's what I thought.

808
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: And I was doing this movie with this guy who

809
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: had just worked with there, and he said, hey, you know,

810
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: you guys would really hit it off.

811
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 2: But he never connected us.

812
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,240
Speaker 1: So after a few months of waiting to be connected,

813
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: I got impatient and went on Twitter and saw what

814
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: she followed me, which she claims we followed each other.

815
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: I didn't, but I saw she followed me. So I

816
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: DMed her and we messaged for about a year before

817
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: we kind of ever met in person, and then we

818
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: finally met up for.

819
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 2: A drink in New York.

820
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: I almost left because she was about forty five minutes late,

821
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 1: which which I now know is a thing, so I

822
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:15,439
Speaker 1: expect that, but I thankfully I stayed and she sat

823
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: down and we had a great conversation and went back

824
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: to her place after to have a drink, and as

825
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: we walked in, her mom was there watching Law and Order.

826
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: So I met her mother on the first night that

827
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: we met, which is perfect. It wasn't until about a

828
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: year after that, after talking, you know, back and forth,

829
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: that I was like, we need to really give this

830
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: a proper, proper gole's when you're back in La next,

831
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 1: what's going a date? And that night when I saw

832
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 1: her walk in, she was wearing blue jeans, a white

833
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: top and like a black leather jacket, and I just

834
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: was like, I'm going to marry this woman, and I

835
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:54,479
Speaker 1: knew it right away.

836
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 2: I told her that I loved her.

837
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: After the second or third date, I call my mom

838
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: the next day and said, I'm gonna marry this woman.

839
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: I'd love for you to meter soon.

840
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: It was literally two and a half months after that

841
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,919
Speaker 1: that we're engaged, and three months after that or four

842
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: months after that that we were married.

843
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, seven years later, it's crazy.

844
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 3: That's awesome. I love that. Yeah, I love though it

845
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 3: is when in that sense, when you know, you know,

846
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 3: there's I'm thinking about it as you're explaining it, like

847
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 3: you've you know, as I was saying, people are obsessed

848
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 3: about you guys' relationship, you know, analyzing it constantly. How

849
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 3: have you protected that even when you're going through things

850
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 3: like in the NICU, Like, yeah, you know, everyone's excited

851
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 3: for you guys to have kids. There's you know, you're

852
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 3: in the public eye, both of you massive superstars, and

853
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 3: how have you protected that relationship through all of that?

854
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: For some people on paper, maybe at first it wasn't

855
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: like the right fit, and maybe it's the fact that

856
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: we do have an age difference for from different parts

857
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: of the world. All those things are exactly why it's

858
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: right and why it works, and it is so beautiful.

859
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: There's so much about the Indian culture which I've I've

860
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: gotten to know and love family and the importance of

861
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: family and big families being you know, at the.

862
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 2: Center of that.

863
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: And I really took to all the cultural differences and

864
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: loved not just you know, the family aspect, but the

865
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: food and friends and just all of it. And so

866
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 1: that was like perfect checked that box. And then like

867
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 1: our age difference was something that I think really bonds us.

868
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: And I've lived a lot of life in you know,

869
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: thirty three years, and so I think having someone who

870
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: has real perspective and depth and wanted to build a

871
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: life together was something that I was really drawn to.

872
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: And the way we protect it, I think is by

873
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: finding ways to laugh through tough moments, you know, not

874
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: going to bed angry, and knowing that our ability to

875
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: build life together and to have our privacy is on us.

876
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 1: It's it's no one else's responsibility, and so you know,

877
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: we have to we have to find those times to

878
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: just be a family, to just have the three of

879
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: us be together and have those quiet moments and really

880
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:14,919
Speaker 1: prioritize it because that that is our only job as

881
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: parents is to to just create an environment where she

882
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: feels safe to grow and be herself. And and it

883
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: really starts with my wife and I building that and

884
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: it's it's.

885
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 2: For no one else but us.

886
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was saying, I love the way you've celebrated

887
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 3: the culture together. I was saying that the Devaley party

888
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 3: at yours a few years back, you were throwing so fun,

889
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 3: incredible devaliy pies are the best de Valey pies I've

890
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 3: been to. And it would be like, yeah, I mean,

891
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,439
Speaker 3: first of all, you look great in a curter too,

892
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 3: so it's like it helps. But they're like remember Joe

893
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 3: being in a full sharanie too, And like you guys,

894
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 3: it felt like a wedding, but you had like the

895
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 3: best of alley food, best decorations, the candlelights. I mean,

896
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 3: it was spectacular. And to celebrate that with you and

897
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 3: for you to invite so many of your friends who

898
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 3: may not be aware of the valley and the culture

899
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 3: and where you both brought that in LA was was

900
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 3: so spectacular. Like I loved it. It was one of my

901
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 3: it was without that, one of my favorite Vali parties ever.

902
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: So we are the best time it was an amazing

903
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: thing to bring a daisy culture into La like that,

904
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 1: into feel so many of our friends who hadn't experienced

905
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: it just having the time of their life. You know,

906
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 1: I think Indians know how to do holidays way better

907
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: than we do here in the US.

908
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 3: Well well, well based on that. I don't know if

909
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 3: you know this, but Prianca has sent some answers to

910
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 3: some questions we asked her beforehand, So I'm going to

911
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 3: ask you the same questions, and from what I know,

912
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 3: I was. I was telling the team when we were

913
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 3: preparing for this, I was like, you know, Nick's really

914
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 3: good at details. Like I was like, I've seen Nick

915
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 3: talk about Brianca like he doesn't miss a beat and

916
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 3: we share that. I'm like, that were me and my

917
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 3: wife talk. I'm like, I know all the details. I

918
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 3: know what she was wearing, I know what day it was.

919
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 3: She has no clue, and so I was like, I

920
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 3: can relate to Nick on that. But anyway, let's see,

921
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 3: let's see who's right. So this game is called what

922
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,280
Speaker 3: did your wife say? Uh? And Pranka sent her answers,

923
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 3: so they're all real answers, they've been verified. So what

924
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 3: was Priyanka's first impression of Nick what would she handsome?

925
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 2: Now?

926
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: I think she probably thought that I was, you know,

927
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: sort of quiet as we discussed, you know, reserved, choosing

928
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: my words carefully or whatever. I was surprised at how

929
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: candid she was and funny, you know, she's she's to

930
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: me at that point. I had seen her interviews and things,

931
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: and she's.

932
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 2: She's quite regal.

933
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: Right, she has this real like presence about her, and

934
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: and so I don't know expect to make it, but

935
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: I was.

936
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 2: I think she would say that I was trying to

937
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 2: see more adult or something, because she talks about how

938
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 2: she thought I was like putting on a bit of

939
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 2: a nat like this is just it's who I am.

940
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 3: Sorry, so she says, it shows out well you know

941
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 3: each other. She goes, he was acting older than he is.

942
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 3: He took me to a bougie bar with an average

943
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 3: age of sixty five.

944
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. That's true.

945
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:10,959
Speaker 3: That's true, sixty five.

946
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 2: I mean around that. It's a great bar. I've got

947
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 2: a nice little jazz quartet. I thought it was good.

948
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 3: Okay, Second question, where was your first kiss?

949
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 2: First kiss was on the balcony at her hotel, right,

950
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 2: here in Los Angeles.

951
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was very specific. She said, the peninsula in

952
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 3: La Peninsula number two. Yes, so if anyone wants to

953
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 3: go and visit that side, he can be specific.

954
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 2: Side of the first kiss.

955
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, who said I love you first?

956
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 2: I did? Yeah?

957
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, she said Nick three to four days in Yeah,

958
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 3: what was the moment you realized that Nick was the one?

959
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 2: Oh? Maybe when I went to Indie with her for

960
00:48:58,120 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 2: the first time.

961
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 3: She said, when he asked me to marry him. And

962
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 3: then I said, yeah, well that's good timing. It's like, yeah,

963
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,439
Speaker 3: just just in time, that's just in time. What would

964
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 3: Prianka say Nick was the most nervous about on your

965
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 3: wedding day?

966
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: To be honest, I wasn't. I wasn't that nervous about

967
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: anything on the wedding day. It was just it was hot,

968
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: so I was nervous I was gonna be sweating and

969
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,399
Speaker 1: that I would look crazy. But uh no, I think

970
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: when she when she walked out, she came down the stairs,

971
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: I felt this overwhelming sense of peace, like I was

972
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: exactly where I was supposed to be.

973
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, she agreed. She says he was so sure in control.

974
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 3: I never saw him nervous. So you hid the sweats. Well,

975
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 3: that's it's impressive that I know those Indian outfits get

976
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 3: so hot. Oh my, that is one thing they need

977
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 3: to figure out. Every time I'm wearing a kruto, I'm like,

978
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 3: this is so hot. I don't it's brutal anyone does

979
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 3: in India. What is Prianka's favorite song of Nick's?

980
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 2: I I believe.

981
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 3: She says close close.

982
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,280
Speaker 2: It's right. I didn't know that close. She loves close.

983
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's the only wrong one so far. That's

984
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 3: this is really this is going great. We've got a

985
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 3: few more. What is Priyanka's favorite dish Nick cooks for her?

986
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:20,280
Speaker 1: I can't really cook that well. I make sandwiches sometimes.

987
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 3: She says, two up sandwach. Oh.

988
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's about all all I can do.

989
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, me too. I can't cook to save my life, sir.

990
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 3: What is Nick's most annoying habit?

991
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 2: Uh?

992
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 1: I cannot think of what she's gonna say for this overthinking?

993
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 2: Is that? Is that a fair answer?

994
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:43,919
Speaker 3: She goes when he's talking to me on the phone

995
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 3: and typing it t LO.

996
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 2: She does hate that. She'll ask me, hey, can you

997
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 2: make sure to send this message to it? I'm like, yeah. Yeah,

998
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:53,720
Speaker 2: so I'm doing it in real time, so I don't forget.

999
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:54,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.

1000
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 2: She's like, I'm on the phone with you.

1001
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 3: But you just you just told me. Yeah, I don't

1002
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 3: forget to write it down. I'm with you. I'm with

1003
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 3: you on that one. I'm on you.

1004
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 2: It is a separate device.

1005
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, you just being productive efficient. Yeah. What does

1006
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 3: Priyanka do that really annoys Nick?

1007
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: She will answer the phone and then be talking to

1008
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: someone else in the room for like thirty seconds before

1009
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,879
Speaker 1: she then, my thing is always just like, just call

1010
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: me back if you're in the middle of a conversation.

1011
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 2: But it's like literally we'll be talking.

1012
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, and as if I'm on the phone, she's it's connected,

1013
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: but we're still talking and she goes, hey, what's up.

1014
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 2: I'm like Hi. It's not like a real thing, annoying thing.

1015
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 2: It's just funny.

1016
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, she goes interrupt him when he's talking, But it's

1017
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 3: actually the other way around. It's it's calling you and

1018
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 3: then talking to I love that. What would Prianka say

1019
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 3: is the thing Nick does that makes her laugh every time?

1020
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 2: Not a good answer, but I don't know what is it?

1021
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 3: When he's being Deasie it's an enduring laugh.

1022
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 2: That's that's nice.

1023
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 3: And then final one, what is Nick way too competitive.

1024
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 2: About most things? I would say? She said everything, Well,

1025
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 2: it's pretty good.

1026
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 3: You did good, Nag, I mean you didn't. I literally

1027
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 3: think you got like too wrong out of like twenty questions. Nice,

1028
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 3: that's pretty impressive. So you are competitor with everything, because

1029
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 3: I am you did pretty good. I love that. But Nick,

1030
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 3: one thing that I think you know genuinely, and you know,

1031
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 3: even from the way you've talked today, you're such a

1032
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 3: it feels like you're trying to be such a present

1033
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 3: good husband. I wanted to ask you what what is

1034
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 3: a good husband? What makes a good husband? What are

1035
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 3: you aspiring to be when you're trying to be a

1036
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 3: good husband.

1037
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: I think that being a good husband for me means

1038
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 1: being reliable, trustworthy, knowing that our daughter is watching and

1039
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: will one day hopefully find somebody that makes her incredibly happy,

1040
00:52:56,239 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 1: and the way in which I treat her mother is

1041
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 1: incredibly important to who she becomes. So does my responsibility

1042
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 1: to do all I can to make Priyanka happy, to

1043
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: feel safe, and to make her laugh, to know that

1044
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: life is a mixed bag of emotions, and experiences, and

1045
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 1: it can feel really disorienting and overwhelming sometimes, but it's

1046
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: a lot easier to traverse all that.

1047
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 2: With a partner who you can rely on.

1048
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 3: Well said, really really well said. Where with you in

1049
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 3: a critic, where in your married life have you had

1050
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:44,800
Speaker 3: to give yourself more grace?

1051
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 2: I can be reactive.

1052
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 1: It's part of being a sibling, I feel, you know,

1053
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: we all do that, right, and you kind of do

1054
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: it when you're growing up because you're fighting for your

1055
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: place in the dynamic of the family and you share

1056
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: that space with the people's you know, kids and teens.

1057
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,240
Speaker 1: You kind of have to fight for yourself a little.

1058
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 2: Bit and defend.

1059
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 1: And being defensive, I feel like is an area in

1060
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 1: my life as a whole, but also my marriage that

1061
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 1: I'm always trying to improve on, thinking that you know

1062
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: that a comment of any kind is somehow a criticism

1063
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 1: of me, and like, I'm supposed to just trust this

1064
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: person to to care for me, and yet I'm being

1065
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 1: defensive about a thing that's so insignificant, And what am

1066
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 1: I trying to protect is the thing I always think about, like,

1067
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 1: and it's this guy, this other version of me that

1068
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: I somehow believe is like perfect, Like how stupid.

1069
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 2: Can I be?

1070
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: That's not only impossible, it's just dumb, like you just

1071
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: and I I've seen at the times in my relationship

1072
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: with my wife where I'm quicker to you know, a

1073
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: hug as opposed to it something defensive or trying to

1074
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 1: defend myself. It's like just better, life is better?

1075
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,919
Speaker 3: Aren't we all? We could all relate to that. Yeah,

1076
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 3: always trying to protect my ego, protect my sense of

1077
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 3: self when when in reality it's yeah, it's this trying

1078
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:21,280
Speaker 3: to protect this perfect version of me that definitely doesn't exist.

1079
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 3: And yeah, you're just yeah, it's it's crazy. What you

1080
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 3: what you could risk losing by trying to protect something

1081
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 3: that yeah that isn't isn't isn't even real? You know?

1082
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 2: So true?

1083
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to pick up another lyric that I

1084
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 3: loved you write in your song Princesses. I use my

1085
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 3: imagination for a living. I tell stories and build worlds,

1086
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 3: but I never wanted one more than this one with

1087
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 3: my little girl. I'm fascinated by your questions. I'm terrified

1088
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 3: to let you down. There's no one in nowhere that

1089
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 3: I'd rather be than with you here right now, and

1090
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 3: even When you started this interview, you talked about how

1091
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 3: your sense of self has changed so much since being

1092
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 3: a father. Yeah, what has been the thing that surprised

1093
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,879
Speaker 3: you most about yourself since having your daughter?

1094
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: If I'm being totally honest, which I want to be,

1095
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 1: the things surprised me most is how easy it.

1096
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 3: Was to.

1097
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 1: Play make believe in and be silly and do a

1098
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 1: kid voice, Like I was never one of those people

1099
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 1: that did the oh that kind of voice, and all

1100
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,359
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I'm just doing it. I always was

1101
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 1: embarrassed to be silly, and I'm not with her, and

1102
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: I love the world that she builds with her mind,

1103
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: and getting to spend time with her there is really incredible,

1104
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: and I think it's made me a better friend and

1105
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: husband and better creator. You know, as I approach my

1106
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: songwriting now, and you know, the work I do as

1107
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: an actor, I feel like I'm way more prepared for

1108
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 1: that because I've gotten to spend time in her world

1109
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: and it's this magical place where like anything's possible, you know,

1110
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: and it's such a wonderful, wonderful thing.

1111
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 3: Was your What was both of your reasons for wanting

1112
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 3: to keep her out of the spotlight and keep her

1113
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 3: personal life pretty private.

1114
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 2: It should be her choice.

1115
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 1: I'm grateful that my parents supported our dream and that

1116
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 1: they never you know, looked back or questioned it. They

1117
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: they ran with us, which was wonderful, and we all

1118
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:46,919
Speaker 1: knew this is what we wanted to do. She has

1119
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: not expressed that yet if she If she does, we'll

1120
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 1: support her, you know, and and give her all the

1121
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 1: contexts that we have from the twenty plus years that

1122
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: we've both been doing what we've been doing, that might

1123
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: be helpful. But it should be her choice. And you

1124
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 1: know the world is crazy too. It's a weird, weird world,

1125
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: and so I think it's it's better for her to

1126
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: take her time and and you know, have have the

1127
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 1: privacy that she needs to become more she wants to become.

1128
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 3: We were talking earlier about as we get older, we

1129
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 3: almost get more scared, and you're talking about your younger

1130
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:44,479
Speaker 3: self being so fearless. What are the fears that came

1131
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 3: up after having a daughter, and what would the fears

1132
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 3: that went away after becoming a dad. I have not.

1133
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 2: Been formally diagnosed with anxiety. I mentioned I speak to

1134
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 2: a therapist. She's she's wonderful and has given me a

1135
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 2: lot of tools that are helpful when I feel kind

1136
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 2: of overwhelmed or anxious, and naturally, during the time that

1137
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 2: we discussed where our daughter was in Anicu, it was

1138
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 2: just stressful and overwhelming time.

1139
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 1: And I think having that as the sort of foundation

1140
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 1: for her entry into the world made me anxious about everything,

1141
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 1: not just parenting and all that, but but life in general.

1142
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 1: And so I've had a few moments where I've had

1143
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: flare ups I guess where I was stressed to a

1144
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 1: degree that didn't feel comfortable.

1145
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 2: And I think a lot of parents can probably relate

1146
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 2: to that. You know, it's a you.

1147
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: You're basically when you leave the hospital, they ask you,

1148
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 1: are you ready to take your daughter home? It's like, well, yeah,

1149
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: of course, I right, you know, but it's a crazy

1150
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,919
Speaker 1: question to be asked. You're like, I get yeah, I am,

1151
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 1: I'm ready to take my daughter home. And that like

1152
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 1: meant more than just that moment. It was like her

1153
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: whole life suddenly. I'm like, I'm I'm I'm responsible for

1154
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 1: you know, this person. So yeah, that's the positive that

1155
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 1: I've taken is, as I mentioned that, the ability to

1156
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 1: just be silly and care free and see the world

1157
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: the way she does, and all these experiences are so amazing. Again,

1158
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 1: things that can seem mundane as you get older, and

1159
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 1: you just kind of you know, glass is clear? Why

1160
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 1: is glass clear? It's one of the questions he asked me,

1161
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 1: and it's like, it's so fascinating, question Why is how

1162
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 1: find myself on Google? Like researching all this stuff that

1163
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 1: I just sort of accepted, And now this person, this

1164
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 1: little four year old person, like why And you get

1165
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 1: to ask the questions yourself and why are people mean

1166
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 1: It's like it's a great question, probably because they're hurting,

1167
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 1: and it's just everything gets sort of it goes through

1168
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,479
Speaker 1: this new filter that is.

1169
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 2: Really exciting.

1170
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 3: It's amazing that both the things you said literally counter

1171
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 3: opposites in that one part of you, of course has

1172
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 3: anxiety and care and fear for this you know child

1173
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 3: that you love and has gone through this you know,

1174
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 3: very difficult beginning to her life, but has blossomed and

1175
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 3: you know, grown so beautifully. And then at the other end,

1176
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 3: it's like, oh, but I'm also more care free and

1177
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 3: like now I get to explore and now I get

1178
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 3: to be curious, and it's so fascinating how like life

1179
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 3: does that to you, like I'm just sitting here literally

1180
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 3: reflecting on and listening to you, going how strange, Like

1181
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 3: the same thing that naturally you have a sense of

1182
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 3: fear and anxiety around, there's the same thing that's teaching

1183
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 3: you to be care free and people, And it's like,

1184
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 3: how do I how does a human even you know,

1185
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 3: make sense of that? How do you make sense of

1186
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 3: that and the human experience it with your anxiety? Has

1187
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 3: that been something that you've because that feels like more

1188
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 3: new despite you having you know, such a life in

1189
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 3: the public eye. We talked about all the events building

1190
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 3: up to even this point, but I think, yeah, having

1191
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 3: a kid and getting older feels like there's an anxiety

1192
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 3: that parents get around that that's you know, incomparable to

1193
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 3: anything they've experienced before. What's really helped you, what's worked

1194
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 3: for you? As a way to say, this really helps

1195
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 3: me when I'm experiencing those moments or phases.

1196
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 1: I think moving my body in some way always helps.

1197
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 1: Getting physical, whether that's working out or taking a long walk,

1198
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 1: playing golf. I really enjoy playing golf. But when I

1199
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 1: was in New York this last year doing this Broadway show,

1200
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 1: I had about a forty five minute walk from our

1201
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 1: apartment to the theater each day, and it was so

1202
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 1: important to my routine. The show itself is incredibly intense,

1203
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 1: and you know, the subject material was just like heavy,

1204
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 1: so I needed a way to process some of those

1205
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 1: those feelings each each day.

1206
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 2: Then on top of that, it's just it's a lot

1207
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 2: of work.

1208
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 1: Eight shows a week, six days a week, and so

1209
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 1: there it's you know, it was a lot, and so

1210
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 1: those walks were important. And then you know, speaking to

1211
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 1: my my therapist, it's not even like there's practices per se,

1212
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 1: but there's just I think real health in a routine and.

1213
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 2: Just talking.

1214
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 1: I used to judge myself and kind of doing that process,

1215
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 1: like talking with therapists and like, am I being as

1216
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 1: truthful as I need to be to get the results

1217
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 1: I'm hoping to get? And I don't think that I

1218
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 1: always was as transparent as I probably needed to be.

1219
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 1: With this person that I speak to, it's great because

1220
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 1: I do feel that that freedom, that's safety to speak

1221
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 1: and like there's there's real balance and for for all

1222
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 1: the men out there, it's important. There is a stigma

1223
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 1: still for a lot of people, and there shouldn't be.

1224
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 1: And you're going to see like incredible results in your

1225
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 1: life if you do it.

1226
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, And it takes a second to get honest

1227
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 3: with someone. I mean, it's it's not you know, it's

1228
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 3: it's hard to even sit with someone who's a stranger

1229
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 3: and doesn't know anything about your life and really be honest,

1230
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 3: especially someone like yourself who has such a public life

1231
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 3: and you can garners so much. I mean, I was,

1232
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 3: I was thinking about, like I saw your response to

1233
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 3: everyone wondering what was happening at the Golden Globes and

1234
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 3: you responded saying it hit you like a gut punch,

1235
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 3: And I was like, what was that for you? What

1236
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 3: was happening at the Golden Globes that you were going through?

1237
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 1: Yes, So I I was like the second time I

1238
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 1: mentioned this on this conversation, but heat like really gets me.

1239
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 1: And because I have a you know, sort of physical

1240
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 1: aspect of that as well with my type one diabetes,

1241
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 1: it can just have an effect, right, So I was,

1242
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 1: I was just really hot on the carpet, and then

1243
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 1: I started stressing that I looked like I was sweating,

1244
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 1: my hands were getting clammy and holding breakers, like everything

1245
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 1: kind of hit me at once. Then my sugar started

1246
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 1: to feel or glucos started to feel a little low,

1247
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 1: and so.

1248
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 2: I just took a step, went outside. I got some

1249
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 2: fresh air.

1250
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 1: And you know, it's funny, like we're all the same, right,

1251
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 1: Like we get overwhelmed, we get hot, It's like it's.

1252
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 2: A lot happening.

1253
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 1: And so I just was like, you know what, there's

1254
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 1: no harm and just taking a beat for myself. That's

1255
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 1: what I did. I had a sip of water and

1256
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 1: was back in action.

1257
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 3: I'm glad you gave everyone else permission to do the same.

1258
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone, if you need a second, take a second.

1259
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 3: I'm so far away from this world. Overs I didn't

1260
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 3: grow up in this world. And then when you know,

1261
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 3: get onto a red carpet and you just realize, especially

1262
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 3: for someone like yourself, Brianca's just like the amount of

1263
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 3: people shouting your name, the amount of stops that you

1264
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 3: have to do, how quickly everything moves, like you know,

1265
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 3: TV interview, video interview, this that it's so chaotic those

1266
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 3: red carpets, especially at those big events that I think

1267
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 3: there's it's hard to understand why it would feel stressful

1268
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 3: because it almost looks really glamorous in the pictures and

1269
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 3: some degree it is, but yeah, but it isn't as well,

1270
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 3: Like you.

1271
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 2: Know, it can be a lot.

1272
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 3: I think more often than not, people feel quite anxious

1273
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 3: on red carpets from what I've heard, at least from

1274
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 3: talking to people.

1275
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially when it's like ninety five degrees. I think

1276
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 1: it was a cold week in LA and they had

1277
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 1: it tinted thinking it was going to be cold, and

1278
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 1: it ended up being a really hard day.

1279
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,919
Speaker 2: So it was just kind of cooking and it was.

1280
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 1: You know, the only positive from that was that it

1281
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 1: was a really good conversation starter inside. Yeah, immediately it

1282
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 1: could be like, oh hot was the carpet and I

1283
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 1: just sort of broke the ice.

1284
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 3: That's so good. Yeah, Yeah, that definitely does help. Yeah,

1285
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 3: that or if it's raining in LA, becomes a great

1286
01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 3: exactly very rare to happen to. Nick. It's been amazing

1287
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 3: talking to you, and I really appreciate how honest you've been,

1288
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 3: how you know, thoughtful you've been. Just I felt like

1289
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 3: I've laughed with you, you know, you've you've brought us

1290
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 3: all to really emotional moments of just like sitting with

1291
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 3: you through the journey you've been on. And I feel

1292
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 3: like as a man listening to someone who is speaking

1293
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 3: so openly about therapy, about self work, about being a

1294
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 3: loving father, husband. I think you're just setting a wonderful

1295
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 3: example and also a human example. I think one that

1296
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 3: is real and you know, isn't perfect and isn't coming

1297
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 3: across as this is how to do it, but it's like,

1298
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 3: this is the reality of everything I'm trying to juggle. Yeah,

1299
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 3: and I think it's someone who I hope I get

1300
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 3: to be a dad one day. It's like, it's nice

1301
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 3: to see the you know, the thoughts that will probably

1302
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 3: go through my head too, and the realities of what

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Speaker 3: it feels like when you're finally holding this human that

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Speaker 3: you love so deeply and get to experience the care free, curious,

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01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 3: but also the stress and the anxiety that comes with it.

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Speaker 3: So thank you for giving us all the layers.

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Speaker 1: Of course, thank you for asking said thoughtful questions. And

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Speaker 1: you'll be an amazing father someday. So I hope that

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Speaker 1: for you, And you know, I certainly I'll be the

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Speaker 1: first to admit I don't know what the hell I'm doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to do my best, I guess, And

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Speaker 1: you know, my dad said a pretty incredible example and

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Speaker 1: all the sort of memories. There are things I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to take into and imply into my life now.

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Speaker 2: So thanks for the conversation. This is great.

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Speaker 3: I love it. Thank you so much. We created a

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Speaker 3: special ending for you. Seeing as your new single is

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Speaker 3: called gut Punch, We're going to play a game called

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01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:46,719
Speaker 3: gut reaction. Okay, so you have to finish the sentence

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Speaker 3: with the first word or phrase that pops into your head.

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Speaker 2: Perfect.

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Speaker 3: What is the best advice you've ever received?

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Speaker 2: Live like you're at the bottom, even if you're at

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Speaker 2: the top.

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Speaker 3: That is a great answer. We've never had that before.

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Speaker 3: I love that, all right. Second question, what is the

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Speaker 3: worst advice you've ever heard or received?

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Speaker 2: Take this tequila shot? Yeah, it's a good artist never

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01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 2: never a good idea.

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Speaker 3: You're good at gut reactions. This is good. The brother

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Speaker 3: I call what I need to be brutally honest is.

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Speaker 1: Joe, but all all three of my brothers, but you know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: prop Joe.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. My guilty pleasure artist or song is.

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Speaker 1: This is not a more more answer. I'm sorry, but

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Speaker 1: I don't believe in guilty pleasures. I think you should

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Speaker 1: be able to love whatever you love. There's good in everything.

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Speaker 1: I feel the same way about TV, but there are

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Speaker 1: shows that are just trash, which I love.

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Speaker 3: So what is the artist or song that isn't a

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01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 3: guilty pleasure but you're allowed to love?

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Speaker 2: Nickelback? It was great. I love the songs. They're fantastic.

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Speaker 3: I love it. The thing I hate admitting Briance is

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01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 3: always right about is people.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, Yeah, she's always right people. Before I can

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Speaker 2: see it, I'm like, damn, just right again.

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Speaker 3: Wow, that's that's a good skill to have.

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Speaker 1: Negative either she's skeptical of people, but she has She's

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Speaker 1: really perceptive and.

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Speaker 2: Listens, so you know it's yeah, Peter.

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Speaker 3: I love that, all right. Fifth and final question we

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Speaker 3: asked this every guest who's ever been on the show.

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Speaker 3: If you could create one law that everyone in the

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Speaker 3: world had to follow, what would it be.

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Speaker 2: I think teachers should get paid more.

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Speaker 1: M hm.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, let's make that a law.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but we'll probably have the nick y you

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Speaker 3: nurses to those.

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Speaker 2: Yes, exactly.

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01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 3: They're amazing people who are working super hard every day

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01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:40,759
Speaker 3: making the country actually function.

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01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 2: So true.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Nick Jonas so excited for Sunday Best and for

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Speaker 3: everyone listening to it. Thank you for being such a

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Speaker 3: joy to spend time with them. So grateful. Straight We've

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Speaker 3: got to do this, and I hope we get to

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Speaker 3: do it again. We've got to get you and Procle

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01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 3: back together at some point. That's that's my big goal.

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Speaker 2: I would love that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that'll be a lot of fun. Thank you man,

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: If you love this episode, you'll really enjoy my episode

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Speaker 4: with Selena Gomez on befriending your inner critic and how

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Speaker 4: to speak to yourself with more compassion.

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Speaker 2: My fears are only going to continue to show me

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Speaker 2: what I'm capable of. The more that I face my fears,

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01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 2: the more that I feel I'm gaining strength, I'm gaining wisdom,

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Speaker 2: and I just want to keep doing that.