1 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: It's time for the b a q a a b 2 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: a q a with Tiffin. The b a q a 3 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: no mandate, but the b a qa with Remat Sete. 4 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: What I did there? I'm telling you when I get 5 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: my record deal, y'all fen to be mad because I 6 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 1: won't even be here like that. Okay. So anyway we 7 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: have in the stew we have Ramat set Ti. I'm 8 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: saying your name right right, Ramit say t I'm so sorry, Remed. 9 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: You know as somebody who's name when I was born 10 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: was Adochi. You know they called me everything but that 11 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: so Remeat safety and He is the host of Netflix's 12 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: hit How to Get Rich. If you have not watched it, 13 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: are you even a brann and bish and listener? Hellled 14 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: we talked about it but also too. He is the 15 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: author of New York Times best selling book I Will 16 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: Teach You to Be Rich. He also has his own 17 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: amazing podcast called I Will Teach You to Be Rich. 18 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: For me is an og in the game, Honey. He 19 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: has been here for a long time busting open a 20 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: door for us brownies and personal finance. So I asked 21 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: for me if he could stay. If you have not 22 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: listened to the interview before this that came out on Wednesday. 23 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: Do it. It's an awesome interview. So I asked him if 24 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: you could stay and answer some of your questions, and 25 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: Ramat said yes, indeed. So question number one re meat, Hi, 26 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, I'm gonna add that part. I love 27 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: your podcast and have been listening for a while. You 28 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: both give such great advice on pretty much everything. I 29 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: don't know about all that, girl, but okay, I'll take it. 30 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: My question is should I take out a home equity 31 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: loan to pay off my IRS taxes or pay them 32 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: with an IRS installment plan. The IRS has interests and 33 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: penalties that can occur daily, monthly, and quarterly. If I 34 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: qualify for a home equity loan, I cannot only take 35 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: out enough to pay the IRS. I could take out 36 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: enough to pay my doctor bills off. At that point, 37 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: I would only be stuck with that loan payment, mortgage, 38 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: one utility bill because my town has one bill for 39 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 1: all utilities and student loans whenever they start back, which 40 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: is going to be in August. My husband and I 41 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: have vehicles that are paid off. The IRS total is 42 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: sixteen thousand, and doctor bills are eight thousand. We have 43 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: a mortgage and two kids. I am not willing to 44 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: use my six month emergency fund to pay the debt off. 45 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: That's another question. Am I wrong for not using my 46 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: emergency fund to pay off debt? That's funny. That's one 47 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: to use the emergency fund for emergency Okay, that's not funny. 48 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: I hope you can both help assist the out. So 49 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: this is actually a really good question for me. 50 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: It is a good question. So first off, there is 51 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 2: no right or wrong answer to this. I'm going to 52 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 2: tell you how I would think about it. I find 53 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 2: that when people have debt, they often will do everything 54 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 2: except attack the debt. They'll write me about opening up 55 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 2: a zero percent balance transfer. They'll write me about doing 56 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 2: this convoluted tactic. And what I really want to hear 57 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: from them is how much do you owe? How much 58 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: can you aggressively pay every month? And when will it 59 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: be paid off? So? Could you do a home equity 60 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 2: liign of credit? You could? 61 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: Would? 62 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: I know what I would do is I would call 63 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 2: them up. I would say how much do I owe? 64 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 2: With the medical bill? I would try to negotiate it 65 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: with the IRS bill. I would try to get favorable terms, 66 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 2: they'll actually work with you in many cases, not all, 67 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 2: but many. And then I would set up an automatic 68 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 2: payment plan. It might take you you said it's twenty 69 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: four thousand, It might take you a year, two years, 70 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: maybe three years, okay, factor in the interest depends on 71 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 2: what the interest is. Maybe they'll waive the interest depends. 72 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 2: But that to me is focusing on actually behavioral change. 73 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 2: We're going to cut off three hundred bucks a month 74 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 2: from our spending and put it towards our debt. That's 75 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: how I would approach it, because it solves the root problem. 76 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: Simply shifting debt from one place to another may save 77 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 2: you a little in interest, it may make you feel better, 78 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 2: but it doesn't actually change the root problem. And so 79 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 2: I want personally, if it were me, I would not 80 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 2: take a home equity line of credit. I don't want 81 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 2: to take on more complexity. I want simplicity. I would 82 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 2: make a debt payoff plan. I would try to negotiate 83 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 2: and whether or not they allow me to. I would 84 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: set up an automated payment plan and know exactly what 85 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 2: month and year my debt will be paid off, So. 86 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: Question what about her six months? Which? First of all, 87 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: congratulations we're gonna call you I forget, like we're gonna 88 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: call you helpless sister out Hey, you help a sister 89 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: out right? So what about her emergency funds? Like? Yeah, 90 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: because I know people are very adverse to using emergency funds, 91 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: which I can understand because you're afraid that something bigger 92 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: might come along. What do you think about that? 93 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 2: Again, I don't think there's any right or wrong answer here. 94 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 2: I do think it's amazing that she's saved up a 95 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 2: six month emergency fund. To me, that shows a lot 96 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: of discipline, a lot of foresight. It's rare and amazing. 97 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 2: So I think she should give herself a pat on 98 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: the back. There is something to be said once she 99 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 2: makes a debt pay off plan. Let's say that she's 100 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 2: paying I don't know, five hundred bucks a month towards 101 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 2: her debt, could be three hundred, could be eight hundred, whatever, 102 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 2: and she's going to plug it into a debt payoff 103 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 2: calculator and she's gonna say, Okay, it's gonna take me 104 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 2: three point five years to pay it off. Then, now 105 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 2: that she's got it all on paper, she can actually say, hey, 106 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: wait a minute, I've got six months of my emergency fund. 107 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 2: What if I took one month and put it towards 108 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 2: that debt, that might shave off four months of debt payoff. 109 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: Who knows, But she can actually play with it and 110 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 2: make a decision right now, she's kind of making a 111 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 2: rule without really understanding the nuances, right and so sometimes 112 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 2: rules are helpful because they're just black or white. This 113 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 2: is what I'm gonna do, this is what I'm not 114 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 2: going to do. I don't mind it. I like rules, 115 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 2: But with the debt amount of twenty four thousand, maybe 116 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 2: one month might actually contribute meaningfully to paying off this debt. 117 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: That's my take. Like that, I like if so, remember 118 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: we I'm glad that we said that's what he would do, 119 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: because what do we always tell y'all that we are 120 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: not your financial advisor, we're not your doctor, we're not 121 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: your lowie, we're not your mom, we're not your dad. 122 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: Go see Grandy, don't sue us. This is just take 123 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: it with a grain of salt, the smallest grain that 124 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: you can find. And this is certainly just some Hey, 125 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 1: this is what I potentially would do. And essentially, you 126 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: have to decide what you're going to do for yourself help. 127 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 1: Us to stay out, but no, I like that. I 128 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: think that that was the one thing I was going 129 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: to say to add to it is I was going 130 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: to say, look to see like not necessarily using all 131 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: your emergency funds, but potentially using some of them to 132 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: help expedite the process, because sometimes we forget that emergency 133 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: funds are for emergencies. I remember a friend of mine 134 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: calling me one day. She was crying and her car 135 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: broke down or something like that, and I was like, well, 136 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: what's wrong. She was like, oh, my car broke down. 137 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm going to do. I have 138 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: to get to work. And I said, well, you know, 139 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: because I've been working with her, I'm like, well, you 140 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: have emergency funds. She's like, yeah, but that's for emergencies. 141 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 2: Like, oh my god, the same thing. The same thing 142 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 2: happened during COVID. So during COVID, I had so many 143 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 2: people and they're like, my wife like still has to 144 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 2: go to work. I'm so worried. You know, we have 145 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 2: this illness in our family, and but I don't know 146 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 2: what else to do. I'm like, this is literally a 147 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 2: worldwide emergency. This is what an emergency fund is for. 148 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 2: So I mean that was like potentially life or death. 149 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 2: I think that this is a little murkier, you know, debt. 150 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 2: You can make the argument maybe it is, maybe it's not. 151 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,239 Speaker 2: I don't personally think it's something that I would tap 152 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 2: my entire emergency fund for. But if you've done a 153 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: great job of building up six months, you may want 154 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 2: to consider whether dropping that down to five months, you know, 155 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 2: what does that do for you? 156 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: Yeah? Also too, if you're able to meet the point, 157 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: I'm assuming that we're taking the leap that you got 158 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: there by putting aside a certain amount of money every month, 159 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: you know, or if you paid period or every like, Well, 160 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: now that money can be available to put toward your 161 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: irs dead instead. 162 00:07:58,760 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, you know. 163 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: So you know. So, Okay, we're gonna take a quick break, 164 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: come back and answer another question. So if you are 165 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: a listener before we take a break and you want 166 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: your questions to be answered, we can. You can go 167 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: to Brownivision podcast dot com click contact us. You can 168 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: go to Brand and Vision Podcasts on IG and sliding 169 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: the dms. Okay, you could also tweet us at the 170 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: BA podcast or Brownivision Podcasts at gmail dot com. Ask 171 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: your questions about business, about career, about personal finance, about money. 172 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: We are here to answer your questions as much as possible. Okay, 173 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: and we're back. And I decided to switch gears cause 174 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: I could do that, you know, for me's been in 175 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: the game longer than I have. And I teach you 176 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: guys all the time that if you are looking for mentorship, 177 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 1: like to look for people who have done the things 178 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: you're wanting to do, especially if they have time put in. 179 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: Because I'm not impressed. Like you know, someone is one 180 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 1: year in business and they've made for million dollars. Cute, 181 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: I'll see you in ten years, you know, because anyone, 182 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: as the kids can say, as the kids say, can 183 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: hit a lick. I can see my bonus starter right now. 184 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: Like no, she didn't, I said it hit a lick. 185 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: I'm cool anyway, So anyone can hit a lick. But 186 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: it takes it really takes like knowledge, it takes fortitude, 187 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: It takes consistency to be in business year after year 188 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: after year after year. And so I'm going to lean 189 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: into the wisdom of remeat and not necessarily ask a 190 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: financial question, but a business question. So I am in 191 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: a real like no, no, no, I'm like in this weird 192 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: place where I don't want to do as much work 193 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: as I used to do, and I'm not doing as 194 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: much work as I used to do remat just because 195 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 1: I'm just like I'm over it. I used to work 196 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: all the time. I have a number of companies, one 197 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: of them Brian Ambition with Mandy, which we have fun 198 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: our podcast and I love it. I want to keep it. 199 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: I have an online school, the Literature Academy. It does well, 200 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: and I have I hired a CEO, thank god, so 201 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: I don't have to do the day to day running. 202 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: And then i have my personality brand, the Budgetista, which 203 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 1: is the business of Tiffany, and I'm trying to figure out, 204 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,599 Speaker 1: like I don't know. It's not so much for the 205 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: Academy because I feel like it's taken care of, not 206 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: for Bound Ambition because I feel like it's taken care of. 207 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: But I'm in this weird space with the Budgetista where 208 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 1: I'm like what you know, Like what am I? I 209 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: don't really know what to do because I love doing 210 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: I love teaching financial education, but I'm in this weird 211 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: space where I feel like I'm supposed to be pivoting 212 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: towards something and like, have you been in a space 213 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: where like because I feel like I will teach you 214 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: to be rich. It's like equal parts this external business, 215 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: but I still associated with you kind of like as 216 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: this personality brand. Like, what's been some of the pivots 217 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: that you've made that have allowed you to have more 218 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: space and freedom and time while still your business still 219 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: being successful. 220 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 2: A lot of pivots. What a great question. Gosh, this 221 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 2: is this is fantastic. So my business been around about 222 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 2: twenty years and it's kind of fascinating from a bird's 223 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 2: eye view to see many other players in personal finance 224 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 2: and other industries. And I guess I have a model 225 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 2: of three different types of businesses that I've seen. One 226 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 2: is ones that grow really fast. They typically take venture 227 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 2: capital and that's what they want to do. That's the 228 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 2: game they're playing. Another one is one that goes really deep. 229 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 2: I have a friend Patrick Mackenzie, who writes a newsletter 230 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 2: on basically really detailed banking. He's super deep. If you 231 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 2: want to know about banking transactions, He's the guy in 232 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 2: the world. And then another model is longevity. They stay 233 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 2: around and I love that. 234 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: I love. 235 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 2: Buying a car and keeping it for fifteen years. I 236 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 2: love my investments for fifty years. That's just how I'm wired. 237 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 2: And so in order to do that, in order to 238 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 2: have a long business, I realized a few things. Number One, 239 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 2: I got to have a way that makes profit. Okay, 240 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 2: that's really important. If you don't have profit, then you're 241 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 2: you got a hobby. So having a really strong baseline 242 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 2: of something that makes money, and preferably a lot of 243 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 2: it at high margin, that's awesome. The next thing, the 244 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 2: next pivotal moment for me was I think really realizing 245 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 2: that now that I have that, I want to have fun. 246 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 2: If I'm not having fun, my team's not having fun. 247 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 2: If my team's not having fun, our readers and followers 248 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 2: and fans are not having fun. And that's the end 249 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 2: of the ball game. So what does that mean for me? 250 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 2: It suddenly started to take on a different meeting. It 251 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 2: means that my wife and I travel for a couple 252 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 2: months a year. We love traveling, it's important to us. 253 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 2: And while I'm traveling, I'm not working. I might log 254 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 2: in for one hour a week check some high impact 255 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 2: messages that got to me from my assistant, and that's it. 256 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 2: But I'm work is an important, but it's one part 257 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 2: of my life. And if you kind of like expand 258 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 2: that out, you realize it means you have to have 259 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 2: an amazing team. You have to scope down what you're doing. 260 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 2: You may not be able to do everything, but you 261 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 2: do a few things and do it really well, and 262 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 2: you have to resist the rest of the world telling 263 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 2: you you should be doing. 264 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: X, Y and Z. 265 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 2: You know, they told me I should have a podcast 266 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 2: for eight years, and I heard them, but I just 267 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 2: was like, I don't have the right idea. I'm gonna 268 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 2: wait until I do. They told me that I have 269 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: to change the name of my business because it's too 270 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 2: focused on me. But I like me and I'm good 271 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 2: with it. So you know, I think you have to 272 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 2: have a really clear idea of who you are and 273 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 2: who you're not and then have fun. That's what I 274 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 2: would say. 275 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, it's because I'm saying I now, I travel 276 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: a lot. I take about three months off a year, 277 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: and to your point, I actually don't work, which I love. 278 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, I tell the team, you know, if there's 279 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 1: a fire call, a firefighter, like, don't you know unless 280 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: someone on the team is actually hurt, you know, then 281 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: of course I care about that, you know, like something's 282 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: happened to someone on the team, because I care about 283 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: my team. But other than that, I'm like, figure it out, 284 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: figured out, let me alone. And so I've just been like, 285 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: you know, because that was one of the bigger things 286 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: I said, like I want to focus more on how 287 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: do you actually want to live, Tiffany. And then because 288 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: for the longest time, it was like what is the budget, 289 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 1: eeath the need and then I will fit Tiffany around 290 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: what that business needs, you know, And now it's really like, 291 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: really Tiffany focused. I used to take my laptop with me, 292 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: like to the grocery store, like I had a mar 293 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: because I'm like, you never know when an important emails 294 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: got and sometimes my phone is not enough. And now 295 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't remember the last time, like I mean, 296 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: my laptop. I don't even bring up with me when 297 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: I travel because I'm just like, why unless I want 298 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: to watch a movie? Yeah, you know. 299 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 2: So I love that It's really about, you know, is 300 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: what is my rich life? And in your case, I 301 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 2: can see it's it's travel, it's exploration, it's other things. 302 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 2: And you can still do that and have a really 303 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: successful business, especially at your level because you've been doing it, 304 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 2: you have the team. But I think spending time on 305 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 2: really painting that picture of your rich life for today, 306 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 2: which can change tomorrow. I think that's the process I 307 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 2: use routinely. 308 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: Is there like a tool or anything that you use. 309 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: I remember a tool that helped me when I first 310 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: started was Tim Ferriss and the book you know for 311 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: our work week. He was like, figure out. I can't 312 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: remember the words that he used, dreamline yes, yes, and 313 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: so it was like, and then how much is that 314 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: gonna cost you? And that helped tremendously when I was 315 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: teaching preschool trying to figure out, like what was I 316 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: going to what was I going to do next? Is 317 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: that still a tool that you use or you have 318 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: something else? 319 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 2: I have my own tools, So I have several. I'll 320 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 2: share a couple of them here. One of them is 321 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 2: a ten year bucket list. And you can do this solo, 322 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 2: you can do with a partner. My wife and I 323 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 2: did it together and it was really fun because what 324 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 2: do I mean by a ten year bucket list? What 325 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 2: I mean is what do I or we want to 326 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 2: do in the next ten years where if we accomplish 327 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 2: these things, it will mean we have lived a rich 328 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 2: and meaningful life. Okay. And the answers are so interesting. 329 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 2: So we had we both wrote them down separate piece 330 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 2: of paper, then we compared them. We went back and forth. 331 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 2: He could do this with a friend, with a partner, solo, 332 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 2: and it was like one person, I want to learn 333 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 2: Spanish and the other person goes, wow, oh wow, that's amazing. 334 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 2: So do you want to do that with a teacher? 335 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 2: Do you want to do it in Mexico City? What 336 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 2: does it look like? Kind of saying yes? And another person, 337 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 2: I want to do skydiving. Oh, that's gonna have to 338 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 2: be on your own. I'll meet you at the bottom 339 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 2: with a bottle of champagne. And what we found was 340 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 2: we found a couple that were really meaningful for both 341 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 2: of us. So for us, it was to have a 342 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 2: tenure wedding anniversary in a very special place that we 343 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 2: know with all of our friends and family. So we 344 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 2: honed it on that and we said, all right, let's 345 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 2: actually make this happen. How much what's the date? We 346 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 2: knew the exact date. How much is it going to cost? 347 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 2: And so what we did was we went back to 348 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 2: our piece of paper, we wrote down a number and 349 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 2: we just ballparked it. People get hung up on precision. 350 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 2: Sometimes you don't need precision, you need a big, bad, 351 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 2: round number. So we both came back, we compared numbers. 352 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 2: Mine was a lot bigger because you know, I like 353 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 2: nice hotels and whatever, and so in this case, if 354 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 2: you have two different numbers, you just go with the 355 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 2: bigger one, okay. And we took that number, and we 356 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 2: started saving money every single month because we knew the 357 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 2: exact date that we needed it. So every month and 358 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 2: we talk about money. It's like a video game. We're 359 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 2: getting a little bit closer to that thing. I think 360 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 2: for a lot of people, that's first tools tenure bucket list. 361 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 2: The second one is going through my money dial exercise, 362 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 2: and you can find this. I gave a talk at Google. 363 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 2: You can find it in my money coaching program. Essentially, 364 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,959 Speaker 2: what do you love to spend money on? For most people, 365 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 2: the number one answer is food. It's like eating out. 366 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 2: The next answer is travel, The third is health and wellness, 367 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 2: fourth is mind convenience, And there's a variety of other 368 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 2: money dells. The second question is what if you turn 369 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 2: that dial up and you quadrupled your spend what would 370 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 2: it look like and feel like? And this is where 371 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 2: it gets quite surprising. Most people are very linear in 372 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 2: their answer. They go, oh, I'd have to watch my 373 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 2: weight because I'd eat out four times a week hahaha. 374 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 2: And I go, wait a minute, where would you eat out? 375 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 2: Who would you bring with you? There's so many different 376 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 2: ways beyond mere quantity, and you can really create some 377 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 2: special things if you spend more, if you spend extravagantly 378 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 2: on the things you love, as long as you cut 379 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 2: costs mercilessly on the things you don't. 380 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: I love that. This is great. See y'all find I 381 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: was gonna have for me? Asked me questions? Girl? No, no, 382 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: for real? This is like really helpful because what you're 383 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: essentially saying is that it's really not The question is 384 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: not what do I do in business? It's like, what 385 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: do you do as Tiffany? And match the business? 386 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 2: Yes, what is my rich life Tiffany? And then once 387 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 2: I have that vivid, specific, huge vision, we're not shrinking 388 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 2: our vision, we're maximizing it. Then where does the business 389 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 2: fit in? And by the way, for your listeners, I 390 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 2: bet this is common. So when I ask people what 391 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 2: is your rich life. I often get this really funny 392 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 2: response to the first one is I want to do 393 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 2: what I want when I want. I go, God, not 394 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 2: this answer again. I go, well, that's so interesting. I 395 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 2: never heard that. So what do you want? And then 396 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 2: they just stare at me blankly. They never thought about it. 397 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 2: Think about we go to work, we answer ten million emails, 398 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 2: we save our money, we listen to this podcast, and 399 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 2: then what's it all for? We never even thought about it? 400 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 2: What a waste. So that's the first one. The second 401 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 2: one is sometimes they'll tell me something like I really 402 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 2: want to have, like a beach house. I go, wow, 403 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 2: that's really cool. Tell me more about that, and then 404 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 2: they do this. They go, well, it doesn't have to 405 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 2: be a big beach house. I mean, it doesn't even 406 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 2: have to be that nice. I mean it doesn't even 407 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 2: have to have a roof. I mean even three walls 408 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 2: is fine. 409 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: It's fine. 410 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 2: I don't even it's just a little one. I go, 411 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 2: why are we minimizing our dreams? This is your rich life, 412 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 2: not your worst life. You're telling me you need a 413 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 2: three walled beach house with no roof. That's your rich life. 414 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 2: And really what it is is we minimize ourselves. We 415 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 2: are taught that it's not okay a dream big, that 416 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 2: we have to shrink ourselves because society won't allow us 417 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 2: to dream big. I don't want that shit. I want 418 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 2: to hear your big, bountiful dream. Now, maybe you want 419 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 2: a huge beach house in Malibu. All right, that's gonna 420 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 2: cost twenty million bucks, probably unrealistic for the vast majority 421 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 2: of people. Fine, but how about renting it for four days? 422 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 2: How about that at least you can taste it and see. 423 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 2: Or maybe it doesn't have to be a twenty million 424 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 2: dollar house. Maybe it can be more modest. But let's 425 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 2: at least start big and then we can figure out 426 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 2: the numbers from there. 427 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 1: No. I love that because because you're right, so many 428 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: of us. How can you accomplish a thing? But even 429 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: in your own dreams, your curtail yourself, you know, which 430 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,479 Speaker 1: is crazy. Oh, can you tell us a little bit 431 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: more before before we kick you off? And I'm just joking. 432 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 1: Tell us more about Netflix, like where can people well, 433 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: obviously on Netflix, but tell us more about your show, 434 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 1: what they can expect and where they can like connect 435 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: with you further. 436 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 2: So the magic part of the show, how to Get 437 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 2: Rich on Netflix is that I didn't know anything about 438 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 2: the guests that I worked with before I met them. 439 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 2: The only thing I knew was their name, and I 440 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 2: had all of their financial documents. So you follow me 441 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 2: as I'm looking at their documents and I'm trying to 442 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 2: guess who are these people, what's going on, what might 443 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 2: be the problem. So I can see, for example, someone 444 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 2: who had a lot of debit card transactions at one 445 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,239 Speaker 2: oh five in the morning, I go, oh, this is 446 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 2: probably a young guy who likes to go out. I 447 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 2: recognize that type of spending. I know that from my twenties. 448 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 2: And you know, I see somebody else who has a 449 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 2: bank account at a private wealth management bank. I go, Okay, 450 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,479 Speaker 2: this person's wealthy. Maybe they have an inheritance, maybe high income, 451 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 2: et cetera. And then we try to figure it out together. 452 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 2: So that is the show How to Get Rich on 453 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 2: Netflix and my podcast where I talked to couples about 454 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 2: money called I Will Teach You to Be. 455 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: Rich and you're New York Times bestseller. 456 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 2: I Will Teach You to Be Rich Rich, Yeah exactly. 457 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: Now, it was so awesome to have you on. If 458 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: you miss the Wednesday show, over me go listen to it. 459 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,959 Speaker 1: That's your homework. 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