WEBVTT - NFL Training Camp Questions

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the favorites of the podcast. Part of the

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<v Speaker 1>Volume Podcast Network item Chad Meulman of The Action Network.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get right to it. We're going to bring in

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<v Speaker 1>my cost my companion, Mike cam Padre, my BFF Professional Better,

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<v Speaker 1>Simon Hunter et O Simon.

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<v Speaker 2>More Football Chat. Let's get to her brother.

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<v Speaker 1>This week across the nation, Simon. NFL teams commence a

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<v Speaker 1>decades old right of summer, the return of training camp.

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked about quarterbacks on this show recently, playoff teams

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<v Speaker 1>we think will populate the NFL postseason fantasy moves, and

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<v Speaker 1>today you and I were going to talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest questions and issues we hope to see resolved by

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<v Speaker 1>the end of training gamp. But we can't do it alone.

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<v Speaker 1>To do this, we are welcoming on one of our oldest, dearest,

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<v Speaker 1>most respected friends in the business, the original original og,

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<v Speaker 1>host of the Action Network podcast and the Big Bets

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<v Speaker 1>on Campus podcasts for the Action Network, the Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 1>of Degenerate Nation. Not going to sleep again until April. Folks.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back, Stucky, Yo.

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<v Speaker 3>What's going on? Thanks for having me, guys, Good to

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<v Speaker 3>see you again. Good to be talking football.

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<v Speaker 2>Again.

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<v Speaker 3>Just recorded the kickoff episode for Big Bets on Campus

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<v Speaker 3>college Football. It's just an overwhelming it's just starting out.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an overwhelming kind I'm like, I have all these

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<v Speaker 3>college football teams, and then I'm like, then I said,

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<v Speaker 3>aside time for NFL. And then I'm like, wait, am

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<v Speaker 3>I forgetting this about? Have I looked into this? And

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<v Speaker 3>there's just not enough that you can know this time

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<v Speaker 3>of the year. But it's still the calm before the storm.

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<v Speaker 3>It's only you're going to get crazier. So trying to

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<v Speaker 3>still find some quiet time when I can. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it'll be here before we know it.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't wait.

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<v Speaker 4>The National Football League originated in the nineteen twenties in

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<v Speaker 4>rural America, then moved to the cities to flourish and prosper,

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<v Speaker 4>but each summer the game relives its heritage. Tiny college

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<v Speaker 4>towns across the country witnessed the first bloom of the

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<v Speaker 4>NFL season, and coaches welcomed back familiar faces.

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<v Speaker 1>First question the Dallas Cowboys, who I think will make

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs. I think they could contend for the conference.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing that in spite of their running back situation,

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<v Speaker 1>in spite of a curious hire to put it as

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<v Speaker 1>delicately as possible, in Brian Schottenheimer running an NFL team stock,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think of questions being answered and will

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<v Speaker 1>we see questions answered during training camp regarding the Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>their running back situation and Brian Schottenheimer as a coach.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, not a fan of the higher just a curious

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<v Speaker 3>off season a recent few years. Curious tole Dak looks

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<v Speaker 3>that'll definitely be worth keeping an eye on. But I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not a fan of either Javonte Williams or Miles Standers.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they've proven that. I mean, maybe you get

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<v Speaker 3>a bump from Javonte Williams, but the fact that he

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't able to do anything in that Denver backfield, and

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<v Speaker 3>just relatively speaking to others too, that it's not like

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<v Speaker 3>they were other all pro running backs in the backfield

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<v Speaker 3>kind of troubling. So I think it's important that they

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<v Speaker 3>get something from their rookies, MafA indor Blue. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's something I think worth paying attention to. Now. Seanneimer

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<v Speaker 3>made some curious comments just about the learning curve of

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<v Speaker 3>the running backs and how the you know, the veterans

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<v Speaker 3>have the advantage, So maybe he's not going to give

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<v Speaker 3>them a fair shake. But I think in order for

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<v Speaker 3>them to have the best, you know, to reach their ceiling,

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<v Speaker 3>to have the best possible offense, it's one or both

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<v Speaker 3>of those rookies have to give them something. Whether it's

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<v Speaker 3>you know, blue and passing downs. If it's more MafA early,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if they're going to get that real shot,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's definitely something worth keeping an eye on.

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<v Speaker 1>Simon. We don't like the Brian Schottenheimer higher, We don't

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<v Speaker 1>like the running back situation. I don't know that that

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<v Speaker 1>matters in terms of how we're thinking about betting the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>What could you see? What would you like to see

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<v Speaker 1>during training camp to make you feel better about the

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<v Speaker 1>position we're taking on them.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't totally Brian are the My thing with Brian is,

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<v Speaker 2>like we've talked about, it just felt like so out

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<v Speaker 2>of left field, where you know, we talk analagem. If

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<v Speaker 2>they could have got vable, why would you not go

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<v Speaker 2>to get Rabele Like Jerry Jones has got the money,

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<v Speaker 2>he can outbid these other owners. But yeah, it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>an interesting move, but at the same time, it's an

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<v Speaker 2>offense that Dak's comfortable and that's what's the key.

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<v Speaker 3>To me.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, okay, at least know the offense won't change

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<v Speaker 2>that much. You know, Miles Sanders looks like he's in

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<v Speaker 2>the best ship of his life. We see that this

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<v Speaker 2>time of year, people will post those type of things.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone's always in the best shapely.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no idea, because it's like Miles's issue is not

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<v Speaker 2>being in incredible shape of being jacked. It's staying healthy

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<v Speaker 2>and on the field and you know, hitting the right holes.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's there's still to me to make questions at

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<v Speaker 2>their running back position that yeah, I'm hoping to find

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<v Speaker 2>out more, but we really won't know until the bullets

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<v Speaker 2>start flying. And to me out the gate, the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that they're going to Philadelphia, I love it for this team

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<v Speaker 2>because it's such a tone setter for the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>their season. If they can go in there pull up

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<v Speaker 2>that upset. Not that not just the confidence I'll give

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<v Speaker 2>to the team, but Brian himself, that's a huge deal.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know how much I'll learn in training

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<v Speaker 2>camp here, but that week one, I really do feel

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<v Speaker 2>like it sets the tone for this Dallas team for

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<v Speaker 2>the rest season. They get blown out, man, did they

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<v Speaker 2>have a rough road ahead of them because the season

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<v Speaker 2>just keeps getting harder and harder as it goes along.

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<v Speaker 2>For Dallas here they should.

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<v Speaker 3>Hire they should have hire Dion like it's already a circuit.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a circus there. Just just embraced the full circus.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean they brought Pickens in, which fits with the circus.

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<v Speaker 2>That theme.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll see if he's like bought in. That's another thing

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<v Speaker 3>to keep an eye. You probably won't know that until

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<v Speaker 3>until games. But that's something like how bought in his

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<v Speaker 3>piket's going to be because it's gonna have some opportunities

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<v Speaker 3>opposite of lamb. But uh, it's cowboys are always It's

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<v Speaker 3>a circus is down there right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Another circus follows him everywhere he goes. Aaron Rodgers to

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<v Speaker 1>the Pittsburgh Steelers. Chris Raybond has written about this for

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<v Speaker 1>six years. The slow descent into mediocrity of Aaron Rodgers

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<v Speaker 1>and the amount of attention that he gets and the

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<v Speaker 1>amount of expectations that follow because of what kind of

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<v Speaker 1>career he's had versus how he has actually performed are

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<v Speaker 1>not in concert. Simon, give me your take on the Steelers.

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<v Speaker 1>What do we think we will see in training camp

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<v Speaker 1>to make you feel good because I know you like

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<v Speaker 1>the Steelers to make the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. For me, what I'm looking for them training camp

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<v Speaker 2>is just you want to hear everything's all good with him,

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<v Speaker 2>that Arthur Smith offense, that he's comfortable in it. And

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<v Speaker 2>we need TJ in camp. Right, that's the big deal

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<v Speaker 2>for the Steelers. This camp is just is there no

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<v Speaker 2>distractions everyone in there? Because I know I get where

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<v Speaker 2>Chris was coming from, but he was a little early, right,

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<v Speaker 2>he won a couple MVPs because they did Draftward and eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>It sparked a new fire under Rogers. We've seen that

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<v Speaker 2>spark with him and he did feel that doubt last

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<v Speaker 2>year and he realized that Achilles, it's a lot different

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<v Speaker 2>coming back from that injury in your early thirties late

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<v Speaker 2>twenties than it is in your forties. So to me,

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<v Speaker 2>we saw that second half he was so much better

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<v Speaker 2>than he was early. He's especially pushing off that leg.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I just nine and eight with that team.

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<v Speaker 2>It just it feels right right that just another year

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<v Speaker 2>where Tomlin somehow gets them to nine or ten wins,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know that's we know the deal it's an

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<v Speaker 2>aging team. This feels like the last run for this

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<v Speaker 2>corps and it's gonna be a rebuild mode for the

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<v Speaker 2>next three four years for this Pittsburgh franchise.

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<v Speaker 3>Stuck.

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you on Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers right now?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think anyone really knows, like what level you're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna get? That's yeah, I think it's it. Seven brings

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<v Speaker 3>up a good point. Does he embrace the Arthur Smith

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<v Speaker 3>offense and he's kind of just doing his own thing

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<v Speaker 3>and he gets rid of the ball so quick. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>curious to watch the offensive line there too, though, But

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's could potentially be an upgrade for what

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<v Speaker 3>they have had in recent years. Effort tour since Big

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<v Speaker 3>Ben has left. But how much of last year was

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<v Speaker 3>the injury and how much was it his age? And

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<v Speaker 3>then there's another year, so how much more will his

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<v Speaker 3>age impact versus him being another year free clear up

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<v Speaker 3>the injury that I don't think anyone knows. So it's

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<v Speaker 3>definitely one to keep an eye on. Yeah, the Steelers,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean they run at Tomlin's on how does it

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<v Speaker 3>keep happening? But Voodoo I don't know. I mean the

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<v Speaker 3>Steelers since two thousand and eight, they're sixty two and seven.

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<v Speaker 3>When they win the turnover battle, they win like ninety

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<v Speaker 3>percent of their games. The rest of the NFL when

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<v Speaker 3>they win the turnover batle it's like seventy ish percent.

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<v Speaker 3>Since twenty nineteen, after Big Ben left, they're plus fifty

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<v Speaker 3>turnover margin. They're the only team that has a positive

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<v Speaker 3>turnover margin every single season. The Chiefs, for example, a

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<v Speaker 3>team you think of usually good. They're plus ten over

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<v Speaker 3>that same span. The Steelers in one possession games, they're

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<v Speaker 3>forty three twenty and one since twenty nineteen. This is

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<v Speaker 3>what they do. They win all the close games. They

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<v Speaker 3>win the turnover battle. That's where I think Rogers fifths

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<v Speaker 3>well Sky one of the lowest interception rates in NFL

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<v Speaker 3>history to turn the ball over, which is good. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>the only team better on one such gets steals in

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen the Chiefs. They just passed the Steelers because they

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<v Speaker 3>went what eleven and zero one session games last year.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I don't know. I think it's wait and

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<v Speaker 3>C mode until we get into the live games. But

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<v Speaker 3>uh yeah, it feels like the Steelers are just inevitably

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<v Speaker 3>going to be nine and eight for eternity where they

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<v Speaker 3>need to not be for like one year. They need

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<v Speaker 3>to they need to find their solution at quarterback, which

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<v Speaker 3>they haven't done since big Enough. I mean, like their

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<v Speaker 3>long term solution their franchise quarterback, and they need to

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<v Speaker 3>have just I think eventually they need to have a

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<v Speaker 3>bad year or get to it really lucky and take

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<v Speaker 3>a stab at a quarterback. I mean, the Ravens got

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<v Speaker 3>Lamar at thirty one.

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<v Speaker 2>That's going to say that that's what Pittsburgh's paying for

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<v Speaker 2>that miss on Lamar like he was so Pittsburgh. The

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<v Speaker 2>fact that the Ravens do what they do, they came in,

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<v Speaker 2>they got them at the end of that first I

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<v Speaker 2>just I feel like it's it just changed the scope

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<v Speaker 2>with that division for the next ten fifteen years. Like

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<v Speaker 2>the Pittsburgh Tomlin apparently loved them, the GM didn't. There

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<v Speaker 2>comes a Raven swooping down take them. I just that

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<v Speaker 2>whole storyline to me is so magical, where you just

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<v Speaker 2>see how the two franchisees have gone. One team always

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<v Speaker 2>think they're going to super Bowl, the other teams happy

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<v Speaker 2>to get nine and eight. So it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, go ahead, step I was just gonna say,

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<v Speaker 3>I've been the Ravens have won a Super Bowl since

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<v Speaker 3>it's twelve either, But I mean they feel they're so

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<v Speaker 3>much closer. But like, if I'm a Steelers fans, you

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<v Speaker 3>could argue both sides, like are you just tired of this?

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<v Speaker 3>Like Tomlin? He's so good at what he does, but

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<v Speaker 3>are you just tired of the tom and speaking tired?

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<v Speaker 3>They don't want to playoff game in what eight years?

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<v Speaker 3>But like, then again, you're always Sundays, You're like in

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<v Speaker 3>the mix, right, So because Sunday, who wants to go

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<v Speaker 3>through two years where you're not in the mix. So,

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<v Speaker 3>but it just feels like they just need to they

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<v Speaker 3>need a reset to get back into that mix. Now

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<v Speaker 3>maybe this is the time, right, Like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>but this this does feel like the last Serrah, or

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<v Speaker 3>it should be.

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<v Speaker 4>There's glory in the legends of this hard muscle life,

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<v Speaker 4>and there's poetry in each season made of sweat and stripe,

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<v Speaker 4>But now is the time to work and strain of

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<v Speaker 4>a sport that tests the spirit and challenges the brain.

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<v Speaker 1>There are four quarterback situations. They're not even controversies, they're

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<v Speaker 1>just what is the worst of a bad situation? The Saints,

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<v Speaker 1>who might have the worst quarterback room in NFL history.

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<v Speaker 1>They're basically deciding between a twenty five year old second

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<v Speaker 1>round pick who's a rookie and a not that much

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<v Speaker 1>younger sixth round pick, second year player who performed terribly

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<v Speaker 1>last year in their quarterback room. The Giants drafted a

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback high in Jackson Dart in the first round, but

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<v Speaker 1>really they signed Russell Wilson and Jameis Winston to be

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<v Speaker 1>the starting quarterback this year. The Browns, we all know

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<v Speaker 1>what they did with Dylan Gabriel, dr Sanders, but Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Flacco might be the starting quarterback. And then in Indy

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<v Speaker 1>we've got Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson Simon. Of those

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<v Speaker 1>four situations, rank them for me from worst to less worst.

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<v Speaker 2>All it depends what we're looking for, you Like, just

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<v Speaker 2>this season, I guess, yeah, Saints probably are gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>the worst team, and you know they're they're in a

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<v Speaker 2>nice spot though. They if this kid starts he shows nothing,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you know, Rosen, you get the number one pick,

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<v Speaker 2>you just take another quarterback, You just keep shooting the shot.

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<v Speaker 2>So the Saints, if this kid's absolutely terrible, great, like

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<v Speaker 2>they that whole their car thing, just put them in

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<v Speaker 2>the hole of holes. So I think everything is kind

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<v Speaker 2>of graver for them. But yeah, do I think will

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<v Speaker 2>be the worstest here. Of course, giants right there with him.

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<v Speaker 2>It's I mean, I know they're gonna do. They'll probably

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<v Speaker 2>start the VET. I hope Dark comes in. He's just

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<v Speaker 2>lights up in camp, right, I mean, he has so

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<v Speaker 2>much to work on. Just I mean, it's brutal because

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<v Speaker 2>it's they're in the probably the toughest division in NFC.

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<v Speaker 2>But just throw them to the wolves. Just see what

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<v Speaker 2>the kids made up. We see time and time again

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<v Speaker 2>either these kids can swim or they sink. And to

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<v Speaker 2>me they another late first round pick. Let's see what

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<v Speaker 2>Dart has. Yeah, the the Browns. I put them below

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<v Speaker 2>the Colts just for this upcoming year because of what

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<v Speaker 2>you talked about chat. It's like, is it Flacco does

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<v Speaker 2>he lose out to Shador? Does somehow Gabriel beat him out?

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's just so many unknowns that like they are

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<v Speaker 2>a team that I'm excited to watch them in the

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<v Speaker 2>training camp because they're going to be, in my mind

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<v Speaker 2>playing all those guys a lot, and they'll be fun

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<v Speaker 2>to bet on or bet against depending on how bad

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<v Speaker 2>these quarterbacks are. But yeah, that's the unknown. There is

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<v Speaker 2>insane where you know, the Colts of all these guys,

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<v Speaker 2>all these bad teams. We joked about it, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>world where the Colts can win their division. Like if

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<v Speaker 2>Daniel Jones comes in to this situation and makes it work,

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<v Speaker 2>it could happen. Like we've seen him when he's right,

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<v Speaker 2>when he can run the ball, he's pretty talented. When

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<v Speaker 2>he does zero time like he's had with the Giants,

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<v Speaker 2>burning that awful offensive line, he was terrible. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's tough. But to me, I don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony Richardon beats out Daniel Jones if he's not healthy,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not practicing this upcoming training camp. So I just

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<v Speaker 2>feel like it's gonna be Daniels job to lose. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I'll have a right in the order you

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<v Speaker 2>put it in there, Chad Saints, Giants, Brown's Colts stuck.

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<v Speaker 1>Which one of these are UNI paid most attention to.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you think will have the biggest impact on

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<v Speaker 1>how you bet this season, both futures and during the

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<v Speaker 1>regular season.

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<v Speaker 3>The Steelers going nine and eight and Daniel Jones. We're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be talking about those two things forever. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>the Colts have to start Richards. I mean, we're seeing

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<v Speaker 3>his health. I don't know if they will, but see,

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<v Speaker 3>obviously it depends on his health. And that's something to

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<v Speaker 3>keep an eye for trading camp. But like you gotta

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<v Speaker 3>find out what you have with your high draftic like

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<v Speaker 3>Daniel Jones is going to win you a Super Bowl, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>you just got to find out and then figure out

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<v Speaker 3>if you got to pivot off there. By the way,

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<v Speaker 3>this is not the Saint's sonat the worst quarterback room

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<v Speaker 3>of all time. There's been some bad ones. Maybe it'll

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<v Speaker 3>end up any way, but at least there's some on

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<v Speaker 3>sertainty with Chuck. But I'll just I'll throw out a

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<v Speaker 3>couple just for fun. Danny Knell the ninety seven Giants

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<v Speaker 3>took over for Dave Brown. He averaged one hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>five yards per game over like ten games. The two

0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:28.440
<v Speaker 3>thousand Chiefs two thousand and seven Chiefs, it was a

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<v Speaker 3>hard knocks team. If you want to go back and

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<v Speaker 3>watch a bad Hard Knocks Brody Croyle versus Damon Heward.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the quarterbacks that year. Two thousand and one

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<v Speaker 3>Panthers you met. You mentioned Chuck's age.

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<v Speaker 2>Chad.

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<v Speaker 3>The two thousand and one Panthers went one in fifteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Chris Winky was their quarterback. He was thirty as a rookie.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you had to leve. I got to remember

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<v Speaker 3>that eleven touchdowns, nineteen interceptions they went one in fifteen,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you've got to get a Browns team in there.

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<v Speaker 3>Two thousand Browns, Tim Couch and Doug Peterson. I think

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<v Speaker 3>Spurgeon win started the game. They combined nine touchdowns, nine

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<v Speaker 3>and nineteen interceptions. That's as bad as it gets. But

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<v Speaker 3>I will say from a wind totals perspective, it's something

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<v Speaker 3>you want to keep an eye on, or at least

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<v Speaker 3>just be cognizant of. With the Giants, it's like I

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<v Speaker 3>think they're gonna start RUSS, but then they have a

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<v Speaker 3>really hard schedule. So if it goes downhill, but I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, with like Dabo on his job, but I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if they are, they then like, all right,

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<v Speaker 3>let's just throw the kid out there, right, and then

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<v Speaker 3>you could end up losing more games. Your floor goes down.

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<v Speaker 3>So with these low win totals, that's something to keep

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<v Speaker 3>in mind. NFL teams don't tank. Every once in a

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<v Speaker 3>while you have a team and the Bucks came out

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<v Speaker 3>they did this one year and like a week eighteen,

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<v Speaker 3>you really want to lose for a draft pick. And

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<v Speaker 3>even then teams mess themselves up all the time. Giants

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<v Speaker 3>did it last year. They don't tank, but you could

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<v Speaker 3>just make decisions to Like the Browns, for example, very

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<v Speaker 3>low win total. I think they're gonna start Flaco. I

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<v Speaker 3>think he's the best option right now. But if the

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<v Speaker 3>brown season goes downhill, is a team that probably wants

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<v Speaker 3>to get a high draft pick. Again, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>but then they traded for two quarterbacks and draft the

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<v Speaker 3>two quarterbacks. But then you might just throw the kids

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<v Speaker 3>in there and see what you got, and then it

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<v Speaker 3>could be really bad, go from bad to worse. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>keeping an eye on all of them. But the most

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<v Speaker 3>interesting to me is is probably the cults. I just

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<v Speaker 3>as far as campus concerned, I want to see, like

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<v Speaker 3>where Richardson's at, how healthy he is, and what happens

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<v Speaker 3>with that situation. But like it's definitely something to keep

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<v Speaker 3>an eye with. The wind totals like that, something that

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<v Speaker 3>I'm afraid of with the Browns, Like I showed a

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<v Speaker 3>little value and they're over But like I'm like, who

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<v Speaker 3>knows what ends up happening with these quarterbacks and then

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<v Speaker 3>their decision if they're sitting at three and ten or

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<v Speaker 3>four and ten, what they do in the last couple

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<v Speaker 3>of games. It's it's definitely something to keep in mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, look, we're talking about quarterbacks, and we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>what they're going to look like in training camp. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>there has been a huge discussion about Ben Johnson joining

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears. Stuck you just talked about, you know, July

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<v Speaker 1>is the best shape of your life. He's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a team leader season. How do you separate this?

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<v Speaker 1>We see Caleb, we see Ben Johnson. What can we

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<v Speaker 1>possibly learn during training camp as an avid fan and

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<v Speaker 1>a season better and a veteran camp watcher who in

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<v Speaker 1>takes this information for real value? What will you see?

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<v Speaker 1>What would you like to see that won't just be hyperbole?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean a lot of it is, first of all,

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<v Speaker 3>like interceptions and something like camps and can be a

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<v Speaker 3>good thing like this is when you're like starting to

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<v Speaker 3>figure out things that people overreact to that. But with Caleb,

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to come down to does he understand and

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<v Speaker 3>he's he willing to understand the structure and the logic

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<v Speaker 3>of the offense and make those easy throw the quick

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<v Speaker 3>reads going through his progressions instead of you know, he's

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<v Speaker 3>got to take fewer negative plays.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>The offensive line is going to help with that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I think they're probably the most improved offensive line in

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<v Speaker 3>the NFL. One of the reasons I'm pretty high on

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<v Speaker 3>the Bears for like maybe the first time since like

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<v Speaker 3>the two thousands. His deep ball is something that I

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<v Speaker 3>want to watch, Like just the deep ball numbers, accuracy,

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<v Speaker 3>and that comes down to the footwork which needs to

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<v Speaker 3>be worked on the trust of the offensive line, and

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<v Speaker 3>but it's really there's eliminating those negative plays. Like you

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<v Speaker 3>still want him to have some of that improvisation, which

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<v Speaker 3>is what you know made him great in college, and

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<v Speaker 3>you don't want to take that all away, but just

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<v Speaker 3>like fully understanding the offense, improving some of that footwork,

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<v Speaker 3>and then just really buying in and a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>that is just what you kind of have to infer

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<v Speaker 3>from some of the things you watch and read, and

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<v Speaker 3>you can't You're not going to figure it all out

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<v Speaker 3>in camp and some of it's just going to be

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<v Speaker 3>like and there's gonna be a learning curve it So

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<v Speaker 3>we have to expect with Caleb and this new offense,

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<v Speaker 3>you're not going to learn at all this during camp.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's definitely what I'm keeping my eye on. Deep balls,

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<v Speaker 3>the footwork, the timing, and then just some of the

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<v Speaker 3>things I'm hearing. I think there's a lot of potential

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<v Speaker 3>there and a lot of it's going to fall on

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<v Speaker 3>Caleb because they've they've put everything around them. But give them,

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<v Speaker 3>Ben Johnson, they went out, they got the offensive line.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you have the weapons on the outside. Now there's

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<v Speaker 3>really no more excuses. It's time to put up a

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<v Speaker 3>shut up for Caleb.

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<v Speaker 1>Simon. What do you need to see or hear? I

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<v Speaker 1>know you don't like the Bears to make the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 1>but what do you need to see or hear to

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<v Speaker 1>give you indication there will be success in Chicago with

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<v Speaker 1>this duo.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, you really just wanted to see that he's picking

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<v Speaker 2>up the Offensecaleb like that. That's all that matters. Because

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<v Speaker 2>I told you this this year feels like it's a

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<v Speaker 2>year for or both of them to grow, right, It's

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<v Speaker 2>his first year coaching and Ben Johnson. It's Caleb's first

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<v Speaker 2>year and real offense with a real head coach that's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have him watch film and go over film with him.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's going to be exactly what he wants and

0:22:12.000 --> 0:22:14.200
<v Speaker 2>he needs, right he wants to be pushed to the

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<v Speaker 2>highest level. So yeah, for me, there's gonna it's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be tough because it's gonna be so much it's just

0:22:20.359 --> 0:22:22.840
<v Speaker 2>gonna be roses. Like your whole Chicago right now is

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<v Speaker 2>just so happy and in love with what they have.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be tough to have a real beat writer

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<v Speaker 2>give real opinions on what's happening. But if Caleb's just

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<v Speaker 2>doing awful back to back days and camp and it's

0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:38.119
<v Speaker 2>still happening towards the beginning of the season, that's a

0:22:38.160 --> 0:22:40.640
<v Speaker 2>big deal. You want to see you know, early early

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<v Speaker 2>day struggles, no problem, right, I always say up until

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<v Speaker 2>August about twenty fifth, I don't really mind if quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 2>like Stuck you're talking about, they're throwing picks, if they're

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<v Speaker 2>if they're pushing the envelope because they're not tuning up

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<v Speaker 2>for the season. Once after that, once they're starting to

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<v Speaker 2>get ready for week one and the upcoming season. To me,

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<v Speaker 2>that's when it's becoming a problem because that really is

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<v Speaker 2>the off and so they're going to run for those

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<v Speaker 2>upcoming games. So that's that's a team where the Bears.

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<v Speaker 2>I won't be too checking in on them too much

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<v Speaker 2>early on, but before the season I'm going to be

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<v Speaker 2>reading a lot of what their be writers are saying

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<v Speaker 2>about how he's looking in the offense and if he's

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<v Speaker 2>grown throughout you know, August in this offense. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a it's a big deal chat this upcoming season

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<v Speaker 2>are Kailer Williams.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes no interceptions can be worse than like than a

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<v Speaker 3>lot in like camp and in early days like you're

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<v Speaker 3>not you're not taking risks, you're not kind of pushing

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<v Speaker 3>the envelope and figuring things out and trying to make

0:23:33.359 --> 0:23:36.680
<v Speaker 3>throws and seeing like but the deep ball is really

0:23:36.720 --> 0:23:40.399
<v Speaker 3>what I'm interested in, and then just how how he

0:23:40.440 --> 0:23:43.159
<v Speaker 3>looks like it that if he's grasping it or not.

0:23:45.000 --> 0:23:46.520
<v Speaker 1>Sam is not going to be checking on the Bears

0:23:46.520 --> 0:23:49.840
<v Speaker 1>because he's got a Bears, he's got an anti Bears bias. Now,

0:23:51.119 --> 0:23:55.440
<v Speaker 1>I like money, Well, the best way to make money

0:23:55.480 --> 0:23:56.600
<v Speaker 1>is not to lose money.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm past this year, Jem, what's that I'm pro Bears

0:24:01.720 --> 0:24:02.120
<v Speaker 3>this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that one of us will be right. Well,

0:24:05.280 --> 0:24:06.400
<v Speaker 1>two of us are going to be right.

0:24:06.560 --> 0:24:09.840
<v Speaker 2>Stuck, though, what's what are you hoping for? Chad? Just

0:24:09.880 --> 0:24:11.520
<v Speaker 2>the playoffs? Loss?

0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:16.960
<v Speaker 1>Playoffs? Playoffs? I just want the Bears to make the playoffs.

0:24:17.240 --> 0:24:18.359
<v Speaker 1>I want them to build.

0:24:18.560 --> 0:24:21.640
<v Speaker 2>I can see now Bears going down to Tampa. There

0:24:21.720 --> 0:24:22.000
<v Speaker 2>you go.

0:24:22.840 --> 0:24:25.159
<v Speaker 1>Honest to God, that's that's exactly what it could be.

0:24:26.960 --> 0:24:31.480
<v Speaker 1>I just want progress and success. I know Brandon Anderson

0:24:31.520 --> 0:24:35.520
<v Speaker 1>said it best. Growth is not linear, but I would

0:24:35.560 --> 0:24:40.479
<v Speaker 1>like some growth, any kind of growth. Uh, speaking of

0:24:40.560 --> 0:24:44.440
<v Speaker 1>growth is not linear. I have been on the record

0:24:44.480 --> 0:24:47.159
<v Speaker 1>and saying that I think the most impactful off season

0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:53.320
<v Speaker 1>addition to any team could be Robert Salah rejoining the

0:24:53.359 --> 0:24:56.000
<v Speaker 1>San Francisco forty nine ers when they're coming off a

0:24:56.080 --> 0:24:59.520
<v Speaker 1>dreadful year with a lot of injuries. But I think

0:24:59.600 --> 0:25:02.520
<v Speaker 1>his bi to remake that defense could make them the

0:25:02.560 --> 0:25:07.560
<v Speaker 1>number one seed in the NFC. Stuck. How much of

0:25:07.600 --> 0:25:11.120
<v Speaker 1>a difference will Robert Salah really make?

0:25:12.840 --> 0:25:15.200
<v Speaker 3>I don't know about Will, but he can like they've

0:25:15.200 --> 0:25:17.760
<v Speaker 3>been since he left. I mean, you even saw when

0:25:17.800 --> 0:25:20.000
<v Speaker 3>he left. The Jets like their defense off He's a

0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:22.840
<v Speaker 3>really good defensive coordinator, and the forty nine ers have

0:25:22.920 --> 0:25:27.280
<v Speaker 3>kind of been searching for the guy and that identity

0:25:27.800 --> 0:25:32.199
<v Speaker 3>since he left. So skimm and they're gonna need some

0:25:32.280 --> 0:25:35.720
<v Speaker 3>schematic help because they lost a lot of talent. They're

0:25:35.760 --> 0:25:37.439
<v Speaker 3>gonna need some young guys to step up. So it's

0:25:37.480 --> 0:25:38.840
<v Speaker 3>not Sale's not gonna be able to just come in

0:25:38.920 --> 0:25:41.120
<v Speaker 3>and save the day. They're gonna need some They're gonna

0:25:41.119 --> 0:25:44.520
<v Speaker 3>need to stay healthy too. It's probably that's what doomed

0:25:44.520 --> 0:25:46.840
<v Speaker 3>them last year across the board on offense and defense.

0:25:47.600 --> 0:25:50.920
<v Speaker 3>But I do think it was a huge higher. They've

0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:53.720
<v Speaker 3>been searching basically for his replacement, haven't been able to

0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:56.280
<v Speaker 3>find it, and I think he's one of the best

0:25:56.520 --> 0:25:59.400
<v Speaker 3>defensive coordinators. Maybe he's just not cut out for being

0:25:59.400 --> 0:26:01.359
<v Speaker 3>a head coach. It'll work out again in the future.

0:26:01.480 --> 0:26:04.359
<v Speaker 3>You know, you learn from things. But I think it

0:26:04.400 --> 0:26:08.960
<v Speaker 3>was a great hire. They're gonna need some there. There's

0:26:09.000 --> 0:26:11.680
<v Speaker 3>some talent lacking in certain areas if they don't get

0:26:11.680 --> 0:26:15.119
<v Speaker 3>some young guys to hit. But I think it was

0:26:15.200 --> 0:26:16.680
<v Speaker 3>as good of a hire as they could have made.

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<v Speaker 1>Simon, You're not as high in the Niners as I am, how.

0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:25.840
<v Speaker 2>Come because there's just so many unknowns about the Niners.

0:26:25.880 --> 0:26:29.000
<v Speaker 2>I the reason I'm on them in general, the fact

0:26:29.000 --> 0:26:31.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm betting them to make the playoffs is because there

0:26:31.240 --> 0:26:33.000
<v Speaker 2>is the talent there and they have the coaching there

0:26:33.160 --> 0:26:35.320
<v Speaker 2>In the schedule, like they have the schedule to make

0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:38.200
<v Speaker 2>the playoffs, Like to me, it lines up really nice

0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:40.080
<v Speaker 2>for them. Those upcoming season is four and aras team.

0:26:40.119 --> 0:26:43.840
<v Speaker 2>And that's my biggest question in training camp is these

0:26:43.920 --> 0:26:46.480
<v Speaker 2>last two years, the way they've drafted, they have to hit,

0:26:46.920 --> 0:26:49.200
<v Speaker 2>like they just they've been paying such top heavy guys.

0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:51.199
<v Speaker 2>Now at this point they have to be hitting in

0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:53.320
<v Speaker 2>this draft and bringing him in it to me is

0:26:53.320 --> 0:26:56.720
<v Speaker 2>such a key, key deal. Like Sala, the different team

0:26:56.760 --> 0:26:59.440
<v Speaker 2>makes and improving guys defensively is massive and we've seen

0:26:59.480 --> 0:27:01.679
<v Speaker 2>it time him again, like like we talked about that

0:27:01.760 --> 0:27:04.800
<v Speaker 2>drop off after he left the Jets was noticeable right away.

0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:08.560
<v Speaker 2>So to me, that's like we already nailed it. But

0:27:08.760 --> 0:27:11.800
<v Speaker 2>that could be the biggest ad of any defensive team,

0:27:12.200 --> 0:27:13.880
<v Speaker 2>is that him as a DC to that forty nine

0:27:13.920 --> 0:27:16.359
<v Speaker 2>ers team Like that, to me, all the moves that's

0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:18.119
<v Speaker 2>happened and any teams on like you know, teams at

0:27:18.119 --> 0:27:20.800
<v Speaker 2>any different players, their defense, everything like that. Adding the

0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:23.359
<v Speaker 2>right coach like him to a defense with young talent,

0:27:23.880 --> 0:27:25.720
<v Speaker 2>if he can build on that and coach them up,

0:27:26.000 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be huge for them because we talked about

0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:32.520
<v Speaker 2>like they're they're another team. They're all in right, Like

0:27:32.520 --> 0:27:35.520
<v Speaker 2>like McCaffrey, everything we've read, he's healthy, so to us,

0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:37.640
<v Speaker 2>we don't really have questions about their offense so much.

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:39.359
<v Speaker 2>The questions for the forty nine ers right now is

0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:41.920
<v Speaker 2>just that defense. So yeah, big deal getting him back

0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:43.520
<v Speaker 2>there on the forty nine ers and excited to see

0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:45.800
<v Speaker 2>how they look at an upcoming camp right that's it's

0:27:45.800 --> 0:27:47.800
<v Speaker 2>gonna be pretty tony to see what they run in

0:27:47.880 --> 0:27:50.119
<v Speaker 2>camp because they probably won't run much in the games.

0:27:50.160 --> 0:27:52.480
<v Speaker 2>But seeing what he's gonna run, what style he's gonna

0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:54.560
<v Speaker 2>run for that defense, I'm excited to see because obviously

0:27:54.880 --> 0:27:57.040
<v Speaker 2>Fred Warner, he's the cog on the machine that makes

0:27:57.080 --> 0:27:57.399
<v Speaker 2>it all go.

0:27:58.520 --> 0:28:07.280
<v Speaker 1>The Cincinnati Bengals Joe Burrow. Everyone thinks he's amazing. Top

0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:11.320
<v Speaker 1>four quarterback with Lamar, Josh Allen, and Patrick Mahomes, at

0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:16.160
<v Speaker 1>least according to most. Maybe not Simon Hunter, but they

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:18.840
<v Speaker 1>cannot get out of their own way when it comes

0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:25.200
<v Speaker 1>to contract negotiations. The Trey Hunterson thing has been downright

0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:29.080
<v Speaker 1>challenging what they're doing with Shamar Stewart, the first round

0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:34.000
<v Speaker 1>pick has been Bengal peak Bengals and does.

0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:35.919
<v Speaker 3>Rumors he might go back to A and M and

0:28:36.000 --> 0:28:39.080
<v Speaker 3>he might challenge like the NCAA on legality. It came

0:28:39.080 --> 0:28:39.320
<v Speaker 3>out this.

0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Morning, Bengals incompetence so stuck. How does that like, what

0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:51.880
<v Speaker 1>does that foretell for you as a Lexington resident, Cincinnati

0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:55.120
<v Speaker 1>might be the closest NFL team to where you are

0:28:56.200 --> 0:29:03.240
<v Speaker 1>as a as a Midwestern Kentuckian football officionado, Can this

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:06.920
<v Speaker 1>team get out of its own fucking way?

0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:07.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:29:07.400 --> 0:29:09.200
<v Speaker 3>It is, since he's like an hour and a half

0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:13.800
<v Speaker 3>from Lexington Airport. I use sometimes. I mean the Bengals,

0:29:15.520 --> 0:29:18.080
<v Speaker 3>they they're gonna have gotta hope Al Golden comes in

0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:24.000
<v Speaker 3>and has a magic wand and schematically because yeah, they

0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:26.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't think they fix the defense. Defense Canna bad again.

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:28.640
<v Speaker 3>They're gonna be a ton of shootouts. The state of

0:29:28.680 --> 0:29:34.200
<v Speaker 3>their defense just significantly lowers their ceiling. I mean, it's

0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:37.080
<v Speaker 3>what Barrow has done. He's not working with much I

0:29:37.080 --> 0:29:40.520
<v Speaker 3>mean his offensive line has been bad every year. It's

0:29:40.600 --> 0:29:43.320
<v Speaker 3>under pressure as much as any quarterback. That their run

0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 3>game is always bad and their defense now is bad,

0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:48.280
<v Speaker 3>Like he has no help just as receivers. The other

0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:51.000
<v Speaker 3>thing is they paid both receivers. He paid Burrow and

0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:53.600
<v Speaker 3>they're just a bad They can't draft. They're so so

0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:56.760
<v Speaker 3>bad at drafting. Just a poorly run organization that happened

0:29:56.760 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 3>to hit on some obvious picks with the receivers and Barrow,

0:30:00.640 --> 0:30:02.280
<v Speaker 3>but they don't have much else. And now if you

0:30:02.280 --> 0:30:05.480
<v Speaker 3>don't have Hendrickson, I mean without Hendrickson last year they

0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 3>were third dead last, and pressure rate dead last, and

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:10.560
<v Speaker 3>completion percentage allowed dead last, and success rate dead last,

0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:15.160
<v Speaker 3>and passed dead last across the board. And I mean

0:30:15.400 --> 0:30:17.720
<v Speaker 3>he had what a third of the team's pressures. He

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:20.200
<v Speaker 3>had seventeen and a half sacks back to back years.

0:30:20.680 --> 0:30:22.640
<v Speaker 3>You know, the only two players I've ever done that

0:30:22.680 --> 0:30:27.320
<v Speaker 3>are Reggie White and JJ Watt. Now he's not gonna

0:30:27.320 --> 0:30:28.760
<v Speaker 3>be there. Then you try to draft Stewart, who I

0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:30.720
<v Speaker 3>would even wasn't a fan of, he might not be there.

0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:33.120
<v Speaker 3>There's just questions across the board.

0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, look, that's the thing.

0:30:35.000 --> 0:30:43.280
<v Speaker 5>By the way they draft Stewart, who's a athlete looking

0:30:43.600 --> 0:30:46.880
<v Speaker 5>personified and had zero stats.

0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:49.160
<v Speaker 1>I spoke to a college a guy who used to

0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:53.520
<v Speaker 1>run a scattering department in the NFL, and I said

0:30:53.520 --> 0:30:55.080
<v Speaker 1>to him before the draft, what do you think of this?

0:30:55.120 --> 0:30:59.640
<v Speaker 1>He goes, college coaches are trying to win. They don't

0:30:59.640 --> 0:31:03.800
<v Speaker 1>build schemes to go against the best player on the field.

0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:08.240
<v Speaker 1>If the guy isn't producing and he's their best athlete,

0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:11.280
<v Speaker 1>there is something else going on there, and yet the

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Bengals continue to get in their way. That was the

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:17.560
<v Speaker 1>most Bengals pick, Stuck, You're nailing it. Are we all

0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:21.320
<v Speaker 1>being fooled by the fact they drafted Joe Burrow and

0:31:21.400 --> 0:31:26.000
<v Speaker 1>he masks over so many problems? Simon, I know you've

0:31:26.040 --> 0:31:27.240
<v Speaker 1>got a strong opinion on this.

0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:31.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm appreciating with Stucky Sander. I feels like I'm

0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:34.680
<v Speaker 2>nailing my early picture that I just think they're an

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:37.400
<v Speaker 2>easily fatable team because of what we talked about. Just

0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:40.360
<v Speaker 2>horrible offensive line and defense to me, is only going

0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:42.560
<v Speaker 2>to get worse, and they've just not addressed in any

0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:46.600
<v Speaker 2>way in the draft to improve that defense. And you know,

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:50.800
<v Speaker 2>to me, Stucky, this is your division of your fandom, Like,

0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:53.560
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't you rather take Pittsburgh at a plus number to

0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:55.920
<v Speaker 2>make the playoffs and take the Bengals at a plus

0:31:56.000 --> 0:31:58.120
<v Speaker 2>number to miss the playoffs if you're a bet and man,

0:31:58.400 --> 0:32:02.440
<v Speaker 2>rather than taking them both at minus numbers the Pittsburgh

0:32:02.440 --> 0:32:04.280
<v Speaker 2>and missed the playoffs and Bengals to make I just

0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:06.880
<v Speaker 2>I think it's really people flip flopped it because of

0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:10.760
<v Speaker 2>Joe Burrow. Like we talked about, he's just he's likable.

0:32:11.000 --> 0:32:13.640
<v Speaker 2>The general public views him as a top five quarterback.

0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:16.560
<v Speaker 2>He's a proven winner because of what we saw him

0:32:16.600 --> 0:32:19.520
<v Speaker 2>do in college, making the super Bowl year two. But

0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:22.400
<v Speaker 2>I've said to Chad, he's not done a single thing

0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:24.680
<v Speaker 2>since that Super Bowl run, right, And you could say, well,

0:32:24.720 --> 0:32:27.720
<v Speaker 2>he's at injuries. That's true. And guess what. They just

0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:30.600
<v Speaker 2>wasted a healthy year of Joe Burrow last year. And

0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:32.200
<v Speaker 2>that's another thing that just jumps out to me. It's

0:32:32.240 --> 0:32:34.760
<v Speaker 2>like they just they hit on they hit on it,

0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:38.080
<v Speaker 2>and they got lucky because he lasted behind that offensive line.

0:32:38.280 --> 0:32:40.040
<v Speaker 2>Now they have another year with their defense might have

0:32:40.080 --> 0:32:43.760
<v Speaker 2>gotten worse and they didn't improve that offensive line. So yeah,

0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:45.680
<v Speaker 2>it's I'm just so down this team. It's not a

0:32:45.760 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 2>Joe Burrow. Think it's just the team as a whole.

0:32:47.640 --> 0:32:49.240
<v Speaker 2>I think they're in too tough a division to be

0:32:49.280 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 2>this bad throughout, you know, defensively an offensive line.

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:56.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but you pay Burrow like that's you. That's when

0:32:56.200 --> 0:32:57.760
<v Speaker 3>you can go for it as a team like the Bengals,

0:32:57.800 --> 0:33:00.440
<v Speaker 3>he had him on his rookie contract to pay them.

0:33:00.440 --> 0:33:03.400
<v Speaker 3>They're not able to address. They're not able to draft, right,

0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:06.400
<v Speaker 3>So like these really elite teams that end up having

0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:08.880
<v Speaker 3>to pay the quarterback, which is something I always I

0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:12.600
<v Speaker 3>like to watch in camp, is in order for these

0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:15.160
<v Speaker 3>teams to stay elite, Like do you have an elite quarterback,

0:33:15.560 --> 0:33:17.160
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna be good like the real elite teams. But

0:33:17.200 --> 0:33:22.080
<v Speaker 3>the Chiefs, the Ravens, the Eagles, Right, they're able to

0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:25.280
<v Speaker 3>draft really well, and that's how they're able to plug

0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:27.960
<v Speaker 3>some of the holes. Like look at the Eagles, they're

0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:30.520
<v Speaker 3>all the questions two years ago were about that their

0:33:30.560 --> 0:33:33.320
<v Speaker 3>secondary and their secondary fell off a cliff, right, they

0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:37.240
<v Speaker 3>went in the draft, announce it and hit like the

0:33:37.360 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 3>Ravens their secondary campaign as many guys. If we'll see

0:33:41.640 --> 0:33:44.520
<v Speaker 3>if they do with Starks, but they've hit on some

0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:47.960
<v Speaker 3>guys that have just kept their team elevated. The Bengals

0:33:47.960 --> 0:33:49.760
<v Speaker 3>aren't able to do that. There's such a bad drafting

0:33:49.760 --> 0:33:52.680
<v Speaker 3>team and they're so poorly run. And you look at

0:33:52.720 --> 0:33:58.600
<v Speaker 3>their roster, top five quarterback, top five receivers, what about

0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:00.320
<v Speaker 3>the rest of the roster, what other groups where you

0:34:00.480 --> 0:34:03.760
<v Speaker 3>like they might all be bottom ten, the rest all

0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:07.320
<v Speaker 3>the all their other position groups are bottom ten. And

0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:11.160
<v Speaker 3>the failures of drafted offensive lineman over the years, I

0:34:11.160 --> 0:34:14.440
<v Speaker 3>mean that's going on decade plus. Uh, there's just so

0:34:14.520 --> 0:34:19.279
<v Speaker 3>many holes throughout this roster. Yeah, I mean, if they're

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:22.120
<v Speaker 3>gonna need the rookie guards to hit, Stuart to want

0:34:22.120 --> 0:34:26.239
<v Speaker 3>to play, sign Hendrickson al Golden does some magic, and

0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:28.480
<v Speaker 3>then they're just gonna need some close game variants. Like

0:34:28.880 --> 0:34:31.799
<v Speaker 3>that's the story for the Bengals this year to get

0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:34.000
<v Speaker 3>to the playofs because they're gonna be a shootouts. They're

0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:37.400
<v Speaker 3>gonna be in games with everybody. But it's hard to

0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:41.759
<v Speaker 3>see that defense and offensive line being good enough to

0:34:42.040 --> 0:34:44.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, make a deep run in the playoffs. And

0:34:44.480 --> 0:34:46.239
<v Speaker 3>that's if like all these other things go right with

0:34:46.280 --> 0:34:49.920
<v Speaker 3>the offensive line, with Stuart, Hendrickson and Golden having a

0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:53.760
<v Speaker 3>positive impact. So yeah, it's probably another year of Bengaling.

0:34:56.120 --> 0:35:01.799
<v Speaker 1>Last question, Matt Mitchell's favorite team, the Buffalo bill are

0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 1>against their will being featured on Hard Knocks. The Bears

0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:09.600
<v Speaker 1>had that problem last year, The Giants had that problem.

0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:13.920
<v Speaker 1>The Jets were cursed with a Hard Knocks season.

0:35:14.520 --> 0:35:16.640
<v Speaker 3>Wait, is that true? They can just force you to

0:35:16.640 --> 0:35:16.920
<v Speaker 3>do it?

0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:19.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, if you've never done it, they can force

0:35:19.480 --> 0:35:20.000
<v Speaker 1>you to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow. I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, totally, And so the Bills are being forced to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Should we look at this as a curse

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<v Speaker 1>for the Buffalo Bills?

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<v Speaker 3>Stucky, I'm just looking forward to creating. I always love

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<v Speaker 3>watching Hard Knocks. When's that start? When's the episode one?

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<v Speaker 3>It's usually like I feel like it's like the first

0:35:45.080 --> 0:35:48.520
<v Speaker 3>week of August, like August six, you'll.

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<v Speaker 1>Be the first week of August. They got to get

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<v Speaker 1>some weeks in there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's and it's always like, Okay, NFL is right

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<v Speaker 3>around the corner. The first time, is Shriver still doing

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<v Speaker 3>I believe he does.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:01.640
<v Speaker 3>When I hear his voice the first time, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>all right. By the way, I watched a decent like

0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:10.800
<v Speaker 3>this is a good Hotel Plane movie with Led Schreiber.

0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:16.439
<v Speaker 3>It was called a human Capital, it's pretty good, not great,

0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:17.600
<v Speaker 3>but it was entertaining.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm getting on a plane in twenty four hours,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'll totally check it out.

0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:24.360
<v Speaker 3>Human Capital. Yeah, But quest about the Bills. I'm just

0:36:24.360 --> 0:36:27.640
<v Speaker 3>looking for watching and then getting screenshots and means of

0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:32.839
<v Speaker 3>Sean McDermott terrorist means for things that he might say,

0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 3>so I can take out a context. That's really what

0:36:35.040 --> 0:36:39.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm looking forward to. But the Bills. By the way,

0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:41.879
<v Speaker 3>the Bills talk about turnover regression or plus twenty four

0:36:41.960 --> 0:36:43.920
<v Speaker 3>last year, does that swing back the other way? It

0:36:43.960 --> 0:36:46.399
<v Speaker 3>was best of any team in twelve years. What I'm

0:36:46.400 --> 0:36:51.880
<v Speaker 3>watching for the Bills, though everybody eats, is their slogan

0:36:51.920 --> 0:36:53.800
<v Speaker 3>on them. But I'm still curious about the wide receivers.

0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:56.760
<v Speaker 3>The main thing is their secondary how that comes together

0:36:57.880 --> 0:37:00.520
<v Speaker 3>with the rookie, how the safeties come together to Bishop,

0:37:00.560 --> 0:37:03.560
<v Speaker 3>and just how that all works. I think that's probably

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<v Speaker 3>the two questions you have with the Bills this year

0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:10.560
<v Speaker 3>going into this year is and then what happens with

0:37:10.640 --> 0:37:14.840
<v Speaker 3>Cook But they're their defensive backs and then wide receivers

0:37:14.880 --> 0:37:17.799
<v Speaker 3>is what I'm interested to watch, but mainly try to

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<v Speaker 3>get some McDermott memes.

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<v Speaker 1>Simon, are you concerned for Matt Mitchell and the Buffalo Bills.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, what curse? They've ember won a Super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 2>so what is there to curse? I mean in their mindset.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, as a Bills fan, it can't get

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<v Speaker 2>any worse. They've been through hell and back, so it's like,

0:37:37.960 --> 0:37:41.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't think a curse that people bestow

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<v Speaker 2>from them is scary as them. They're above a curse

0:37:46.239 --> 0:37:49.800
<v Speaker 2>at this point, like they they know the deal. Josh

0:37:49.880 --> 0:37:52.200
<v Speaker 2>Allen knows the deal. Like we talked about it that

0:37:52.800 --> 0:37:54.520
<v Speaker 2>he was happy to win the MVP last year, but

0:37:54.560 --> 0:37:57.360
<v Speaker 2>you can tell he's like, I'm sick of going to

0:37:57.400 --> 0:38:01.920
<v Speaker 2>sports psychologists and talking about Patrick Mahomes to conquer this mountain.

0:38:02.000 --> 0:38:04.120
<v Speaker 2>And that's what this season lines up for perfectly. They

0:38:04.120 --> 0:38:07.239
<v Speaker 2>have the easiest schedule. I think any professionally talk to

0:38:07.320 --> 0:38:10.200
<v Speaker 2>thinks they have the easiest schedule in the AFC. You know,

0:38:10.400 --> 0:38:13.080
<v Speaker 2>sure shocked the world, New England might do it, or

0:38:13.760 --> 0:38:16.000
<v Speaker 2>justin Fields in the Jets. Something crazy could happen. But

0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:18.520
<v Speaker 2>there's a reason they're over minus two hundred to win

0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:21.600
<v Speaker 2>their division. Right now. It's it's the Bills year. It's

0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:25.040
<v Speaker 2>lined up, So to me, I am excited to watch it. Right,

0:38:25.040 --> 0:38:28.480
<v Speaker 2>we all love Josh Allen. Excited to see more camera

0:38:28.480 --> 0:38:31.040
<v Speaker 2>time in because he's kind of like this goofy, weird

0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:33.040
<v Speaker 2>kind of dude, Like he says some funny shit when

0:38:33.040 --> 0:38:34.759
<v Speaker 2>he does talk and open up like he to me,

0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:37.799
<v Speaker 2>has always been a very funny guy, even if you know,

0:38:37.800 --> 0:38:39.520
<v Speaker 2>if you're an old part of my take fan, they

0:38:39.560 --> 0:38:42.080
<v Speaker 2>had him on before the draft and immediately you're just like, fuck,

0:38:42.440 --> 0:38:44.719
<v Speaker 2>this dude's really likeable. I hope my team drafts from LID.

0:38:44.760 --> 0:38:46.640
<v Speaker 2>Did we know he was going to be some day

0:38:46.640 --> 0:38:49.399
<v Speaker 2>of the MVP and the best player ever? So yeah,

0:38:49.440 --> 0:38:52.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm excited for Hard Knocks. I'm happy they picked the

0:38:52.440 --> 0:38:55.200
<v Speaker 2>franchise like the Bills. No no disrespect to you know,

0:38:55.320 --> 0:38:59.240
<v Speaker 2>Chicago or the Giants, but those are organizations that aren't

0:38:59.520 --> 0:39:02.000
<v Speaker 2>the best to run organizations. Right. They've both kind of

0:39:02.040 --> 0:39:05.200
<v Speaker 2>had faltered here these last five ten years. But the

0:39:05.239 --> 0:39:06.680
<v Speaker 2>Bills they're on the up and up, so it'd be

0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:08.200
<v Speaker 2>cool to get a peek behind the curtain to see

0:39:08.239 --> 0:39:10.440
<v Speaker 2>what kind of team they are in this upcoming season.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I will say that the I just mentioned the

0:39:13.560 --> 0:39:16.160
<v Speaker 3>drafting the Bills like their defense really fell off and

0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:20.359
<v Speaker 3>has really cost them in playoffs. So what do they

0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:22.400
<v Speaker 3>do you know for their five free agent signings on

0:39:22.440 --> 0:39:25.520
<v Speaker 3>the defense and first five picks in the draft on

0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:27.400
<v Speaker 3>the defensive side of the ball, Like they have you

0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:29.640
<v Speaker 3>have Josh Allen and you have a good offensive line. Yeah,

0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:31.680
<v Speaker 3>you have the offense figured out, it's all about that defense.

0:39:31.840 --> 0:39:33.680
<v Speaker 3>Are these draft picks, these free agent signs can to

0:39:33.760 --> 0:39:35.560
<v Speaker 3>hit that something that I'm looking to watch And you

0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:37.600
<v Speaker 3>mentioned the Bills. Yeah, there's a reason they're having favorites

0:39:38.000 --> 0:39:40.239
<v Speaker 3>during the division. The schedule sets up so nice for them.

0:39:40.560 --> 0:39:44.080
<v Speaker 3>They are all they're hard. Games are at home. There's

0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:46.879
<v Speaker 3>no back to back road games and the Bills at home.

0:39:47.719 --> 0:39:52.320
<v Speaker 3>Last three years, they've lost one game at home in regulation.

0:39:52.440 --> 0:39:56.640
<v Speaker 3>I wonder if our producer Bills fans can remember the

0:39:56.640 --> 0:40:00.960
<v Speaker 3>game they lost to the Broncos twenty four to twenty two.

0:40:00.960 --> 0:40:02.759
<v Speaker 3>And like Russell Wilson, you remember this camping was like

0:40:02.760 --> 0:40:04.720
<v Speaker 3>two years ago, Mitchell, Well.

0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:06.120
<v Speaker 1>Look now we got a lot more to look forward

0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:10.399
<v Speaker 1>to for training camp. By hoping to God we can

0:40:10.440 --> 0:40:12.560
<v Speaker 1>cross our fingers against the Buffalo Bills.

0:40:14.320 --> 0:40:16.080
<v Speaker 3>Get a raven shout out. I'm watching one thing I'm

0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:19.880
<v Speaker 3>watching for the first time forever. A new kicker I

0:40:19.920 --> 0:40:22.560
<v Speaker 3>gotta see. We got to see this. A rookie kicks, right,

0:40:22.880 --> 0:40:24.960
<v Speaker 3>and a new kicker in Baltimore. It's gonna be very

0:40:24.960 --> 0:40:28.200
<v Speaker 3>weird to like, I feel like every other team now,

0:40:28.239 --> 0:40:31.960
<v Speaker 3>although Tucker had fallen off the last year or two,

0:40:32.239 --> 0:40:37.520
<v Speaker 3>but for so long, I'm like, oh, Tucker's coming out automatically.

0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:40.239
<v Speaker 3>You know you're gonna make anything under fifty. Now I'm

0:40:40.239 --> 0:40:42.840
<v Speaker 3>going to a rookie kicker, Like I have the anxiety

0:40:42.880 --> 0:40:45.319
<v Speaker 3>of every other team, every other fan base that's had

0:40:45.360 --> 0:40:48.680
<v Speaker 3>for years that I've taken for granted. So I'm looking

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<v Speaker 3>forward to watching me some loop.

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